Chimbo the Yiddo

[Spur]

Expect it to be done in the next day or tops two people.

[Neil_Vaughan]

Thanks for the info Spur

[Spur]

No worries Neil, just hope people don't attack all this ITK bullshit now. Especially as that Carrick deal that I said about hasn't happened yet... Oh wait it has, big pat on the back for Spur for bringing it to you lot first (",)

And Neil, what is that (Y) about...? Your confusing me...!?!?!??!

[Thfc4Life]

Cheers for the heads up on chimbonda, I thought as much though, as wigan announced the signing of boyce today who is also a right back.

[SCIFIN17YID]

Expect it to be done in the next day or tops two people.

Speculation or Confirmation ?

[DarlinginJapan]

Just hope we'e not paying more than 4!

[JuicE]

Expect it to be done in the next day or tops two people.

How do you know? If you don't mind me asking! :D

[Houdini logic]

No worries Neil, just hope people don't attack all this ITK bullshit now. Especially as that Carrick deal that I said about hasn't happened yet... Oh wait it has, big pat on the back for Spur for bringing it to you lot first (",)

And Neil, what is that (Y) about...? Your confusing me...!?!?!??!

You keep going on about people attacking your 'inside info' posts, but I don't think i've actually seen anyone slate you down!?

Any other rumours on the horizon?

[Spur]

A friend of a friend tells that friend who tells me. The txt's are short, but they are always correct. Don't know everything, but most things come through.

Obviously things happen in football that no-one can control, like when Zebina had signed, and it was all done and dusted, but then it never went through... Found out a few days later that Capello had said no right at the very last moment, so sometimes shit happens.

Oh and Neil took that (Y) away, it's not me being crazy, it was definately there!!!!!!!!!!

[Welsh Spur]

I dunno, unless we do a turn around and pay what they want.....Jewell the fool is adamant they're getting £6m and we don't seem to be willing to pay it.

[JJ]

(Y) is a thumbs up on MSN. It becomes a reflex to do it.

[Chinaman]

No way at 6 million. We have enough cover for our full back positions in order of preference with existing personnel as follows:

RB Lee, Salty, Taino, Ifil

LB Ekotto, Lee, Ziegler, Taino

So, unless someone exceptional is available at realistic price, we should not waste money.

[Houdini logic]

I like chimbo alot, but do think Lee could do a great job at right back

[Spur]

I think with Lennon on the right what we need is a really defensive right back.

Chimbo is not that.

[shoot_ffs]

we certainly need someone who can defend first and foremost, but it will give us great attacking form if we have two attacking fullbacks also. I can't believe any club would want to take reid of us as he is long term injured.

[Keanoldinho]

No worries Neil, just hope people don't attack all this ITK bullshit now. Especially as that Carrick deal that I said about hasn't happened yet... Oh wait it has, big pat on the back for Spur for bringing it to you lot first (",)

And Neil, what is that (Y) about...? Your confusing me...!?!?!??!


This is just ITK bullshit:D

[Spur]

Well worth saying a good 5 times.

[Keanoldinho]

ooppps:mad: feckn slow computer

[Chinaman]

No, you're just quicker than Keane and Ronaldinho.

[highlander]

i like chimbondage a lot and think he would be a valuable adition to the squad. he will do a great job for us whist Ifil comes through the ranks and establishes himself.

[Thfc4Life]

i like chimbondage a lot and think he would be a valuable adition to the squad. he will do a great job for us whist Ifil comes through the ranks and establishes himself.

Hate to break it to you, but, Ifill isnt going to be the long term answer to our right back spot. He hasnt progressed like everyone hoped he would, and failed to impress while on loan at millwall last season, I predict he will hang around for a year or so and then be sold to a championship side, a la Marney.

[Danishspurs]

I haven't seen much of Chimbo and would like to know what kind of right back he is?? Is he quick, skillful, energetic, good defensively??

[TomMcLaren]

Hate to break it to you, but, Ifill isnt going to be the long term answer to our right back spot. He hasnt progressed like everyone hoped he would, and failed to impress while on loan at millwall last season, I predict he will hang around for a year or so and then be sold to a championship side, a la Marney.

He was an ever present at Millwall wasn't he?

[Welsh Spur]

Hate to break it to you, but, Ifill isnt going to be the long term answer to our right back spot. He hasnt progressed like everyone hoped he would, and failed to impress while on loan at millwall last season, I predict he will hang around for a year or so and then be sold to a championship side, a la Marney.
I agree, since I joined this site I've been completely baffled by people's faith in him. I for one think he's looked very poor/average in all the games I've seen him, and definately thought he would never grace our side again.

[shoot_ffs]

i think ifil is too small for a start. millwall seemed pleased with him, but if kelly was a doubt then ifil certainly is. i expect him to be sold this season.

[Spur]

I've a mate whos a season ticket Millwall fan, and he says he was their best player, and he was alwasy boasting (even though he is our player) that he is definately going to become a great player.

From those games Ifil had for us at the start of two seasons ago he was the best right back we've had in a long time, not once did I see anything better than those two appearances last season and that was with a 28 year old double winning international.

I've no doubt Ifil is the long term answer to right back, and i've no doubt he will become a great player and future international.

[Welsh Spur]

I remember seeing him against Liverpool when Santini was in charge, first game of 2004-05 season, and he looked a poor player....terrified, nervous, and brought nothing to the team. I can't agree that he's got potential. Maybe Championship potential, but not prem.

[Welsh Spur]

Did chimbonda make a World Cup appearance? I can't remember...

[Spur]

That's ridiculous, he kept Kewell in his pocket, he kept Gerrard from his side of the pitch, he was one of our best players!!! Nervous and scared, wouldn't you be!?!?! Your 16 years old and playing against the most successful English side ever at right back for a team who has just busily undergone a revolution, I would be absolutely shitting it.

It was that and the following game agasint Newcastle that showed his potential, that made us wake up and take notice.

[Welsh Spur]

Well if he's that good in other people's opinion.....shouldn't he already be playing? I mean if a 16 year old is good enough to keep Kewell in his pocket, and Gerrard away from him, surely he's something special?

And something special to me does not mean being loaned out to Millwall, if he was that talented at 16 , like you say, why isn't he a regular fixture? That game was 2 years ago.....

[Spur]

He was only 16, there's not many 16 year olds that can cope with the game week in week out. He played in the League Cup that year, before Fredi decided to play volleyball in our box. A player with potential is exactly that. And managers treat players like that differently.

I've no doubt that he will be first choice within a couple of years. After Chimbonda and/or stalteri we won't need to buy again, as one of these will be back up and Ifil will be first choice. Playing at a lower level toughens these kids up. That's what Jamie O'hara is saying and who am I to argue...? He's done it and now looking to break into the first team squad.

[Welsh Spur]

Well....only time will tell, and things can change quickly. I'd be happy if I'm completely wrong and he turns out to be the best full back we've had in ten years!

[Spur]

He will do.

[kingkeano]

ill second that

[Thfc4Life]

What is the latest on the Chimbonda deal, are we any closer to signing him yet does anybody know??

[choda]

In the papers it says Jewell rang Levy and told him 5.5 mil or no deal. To be honest I'm not sure we should be held to ransom.

Depends how Jol rates him I suppose, but I think 5.5 is a little steep. It might be better to try Lee and Tainio there. I've a feeling either of them could be dynamite this year at right back. In fact, Tainio could be dynamite anywhere this year.

I think this could be the year that Lee really settles to the prem (but I think he's too right footed at left back).

[Welsh Spur]

Tainio is going to go on a premiership rampage this season, cracking attitude, great pro and a phenomenal workrate....I can't wait to see him tear that little c*nt Fabregas to shreds.....

[Spur]

I don't know whats happening with this one. I don't know what to believe there is a new story on it every day. I don't want to spend too much on him. He seems to be only after money.

[DarlinginJapan]

We should definitely not get held to ransom for Chimbonda. 4 million would be the top price I'd like to see us pay. I'm still hopeful of Trabelsi (is that right?) or another surprise from the Jol/Commoli team. A young right back from France, Holland or anywhere who we've never heard of and looks as good as Ekotto!

[Keanoldinho]

I got this info off another site.

"We have agreed a 4.75 m fee with Wigan and also a 2.75m fee with Blackburn.



our preference is Chimbonda but if Wigan muck about we will sign Neill.

We have told them that



We should conclude a deal over the weekend"

[Welsh Spur]

Chimbonda is NOT happening apparently.

And I will actually cry if we sign Neill. I have hated him for the last 2-3 years, he is one of the most dirty players in the Premiership and I take every opportunity to ridicule him. I did feel he was hard done by for the penalty against Italy, but that just shows his inexperience. No to Neill!!!! Please!!!!

[spurs61]

Chimbonda is NOT happening apparently.

And I will actually cry if we sign Neill. I have hated him for the last 2-3 years, he is one of the most dirty players in the Premiership and I take every opportunity to ridicule him. I did feel he was hard done by for the penalty against Italy, but that just shows his inexperience. No to Neill!!!! Please!!!!

I'll second that, please not Lucas Neil, he's a thug plain and simple. Although I would say that at least he is a proper defender unlike Chimbonda who I still think is a very dodgy defender.

[Spur]

I'm sorry but Neill would be a good signing. Yes he's a bit of a ****, and he is ex-Millwall, and probably a racist thug who goes around the streets at night raping and pillaging, but he is a defender who will take no shit whatsoever, and most importantly give Lennon the freedom he needs to do his thing.

[Houdini logic]

Chimbo deal does appear to be dead, but we mgiht be playing a bit of a game with Wigan, show no interest then when things heat up, re offer out current bid.

I'm glad we aren't letting Jewell throw his teddy in the corner and get away with it though. He's a nob.

[Welsh Spur]

Didn't he take Bradford down a few years back?

[Billywhizz]

May not be dead, Chimbonda is going ****ing crazy over this he want's the move ive got a funny feeling he may go awol or on strike. It's been done before i think.

[Welsh Spur]

I don't understand why they are doing the utmost to keep hold of a player who has publicly stated his intentions to leave....it makes their position untenable and by holding out they just look like c*nts.

[Billywhizz]

Absolutely, they have had 2 bids for him one from us and Wet Spam both falling short of Jewell's valuation, the guy lives in cload cuckoo land £5.5m for Heskey looks like another mugging happened in Birmingham.

[JJ]

If Chimbonda signed a contract extension without a release clause on the basis that Wigan verbally agreed to let him go should he want to, then they've just proved themselves to be absolute scum. Chimbonda re-signs to do them a favour, and then gets ****ed out of a move he clearly wants, and has wanted for a long time.

[Welsh Spur]

Yep, they look like proper c*nts now. If they cared about the player's future they'd let him go, isn't it better to make £3mill on him rather than nothing at all by keeping him?

Carrick's situ was different, he was happy to stay that why he said nothing, and MJ clearly felt that £10million was not enough to compensate for a player who many would argue was the centre of our team. Chimbonda is not that at Wigan.

I would say Bullard was their most influential last year and he went for what, £2.5m??? Is Chimbonda really worth that much more? Jewell, GO F**K YOURSELF, MATE.

[Yiddo]

Not emotional about Neill one way or the other, but I would say that I like the odd dirty bastard when they are playing for us.
Showing my age, but Paul Miller is one of my all time fav's.

[Thfc4Life]

The right back we should be signing is a player called Philipp Degen who plays for Dortmond and Switzerland, he had an excellent world cup and with Dortmond in a poor financial situation we could sign him for a knock down price like the Goons did with Rosicky.

[JJ]

The right back we should be signing is a player called Philipp Degen who plays for Dortmond and Switzerland, he had an excellent world cup and with Dortmond in a poor financial situation we could sign him for a knock down price like the Goons did with Rosicky.

Hopefully he'll play for Dortmund against us tomorrow then. Give us a proper look at him.

[Welsh Spur]

Yeah, can definately see a potential transfer there, esp if he impresses....

...will Dortmund want to sell though?

[onthejazzin77]

Yep, they look like proper c*nts now. If they cared about the player's future they'd let him go, isn't it better to make £3mill on him rather than nothing at all by keeping him?

Carrick's situ was different, he was happy to stay that why he said nothing, and MJ clearly felt that £10million was not enough to compensate for a player who many would argue was the centre of our team. Chimbonda is not that at Wigan.

I would say Bullard was their most influential last year and he went for what, £2.5m??? Is Chimbonda really worth that much more? Jewell, GO F**K YOURSELF, MATE.
That's a great shout. Why wasn't Fulham held to ransom for Bullard but we are for Chimbonda? Is it because it is one price for Tottenham and another price for the rest? (Tongue in cheek)

[spurs61]

The right back we should be signing is a player called Philipp Degen who plays for Dortmond and Switzerland, he had an excellent world cup and with Dortmond in a poor financial situation we could sign him for a knock down price like the Goons did with Rosicky.

You are absolutely right, I'd completely forgotten about him. We were actually speaking to him prior to and during the World Cup. I had wondered why we were only playing one game in Germany, it seems a bit strange to fly all the sqaud to Germany to play one friendly match. Putting two and two together......is a very danergerous hobby!

[Welsh Spur]

They know we've got cash, plain and simple. And now they've got egg on their faces coz they'll be stuck with a player who doesn't want to play for them.

If we'd pushed this through before the Carrick deal then it'd be a different story, they'd have a player who wants out and our interest would be they way for them to make something on it. But now they've been greedy and they are looking at the possibility of being stuck with a high earner in the reserves.

Are they even thinking about the fans? I can't imagine them giving Chimbonda a hero's welcome if he does turn out for them now.....

[Chinaman]

I really believe we are quite adequately covered at RB with Lee, Taino and Salty in that order. Ghaly also played there and Ifil standing by. I would say a really top notch RB would be more than welcome, but I'm not really interested in spending a load on mediocrity.

[Welsh Spur]

I think that's a fair shout.

[spurs61]

I really believe we are quite adequately covered at RB with Lee, Taino and Salty in that order. Ghaly also played there and Ifil standing by. I would say a really top notch RB would be more than welcome, but I'm not really interested in spending a load on mediocrity.

Well unless we sign Ayala, then Jol is certain to sign another right back, we have left the 2 shirt free to fill. I wouldn't mind seeing JJ at right back actually, but only when Lennon isn't playing. Jenas has all the atributes to be an outstanding fullback but only an above average midfielder and england are going to need a replacement for Gary Neville very soon...I know it sounds a bit strange at first but think about it a while. Look at how many excellent central midfielders have we got? About 12 I think, and one very average rightback. Jenas has pace, stamina, puts in a nice cross and has a great work ethic, it makes perfect sense to me.

[Chinaman]

If we have an eye in developing JJ at right back, we'll have to sign another CM who can run with the ball at speed and can create as well as shoot.

[spurs61]

If we have an eye in developing JJ at right back, we'll have to sign another CM who can run with the ball at speed and can create as well as shoot.

Teemu and Ghaly (if both fit) can do that job as can Hudds. I see what you are saying and sort of agree. I just think you get better value at the moment from buying midfielders, eg Zokora cost us £6.2 mil (not £8 mil as reported) and Wigan want £6 mil for Chimbonda. Zokora was one of the stars of the World Cup, Chimbonda only just made the French squad and had no chance of playing. Where is the justification for that sort of fee for a right back.

[Gold7]

paul jewel wants 6 mil no less for chimbo in my opinion thats too much dosh
4 would be ok he is quite good and played in the prem

[Welsh Spur]

There isn't a justification! And Jewell and Whelan are the only ones who can't see it!
The pound signs obscure their vision....

[spurs61]

I woudn't mind if he could defend properly but he can't.

[Chinaman]

Teemu and Ghaly (if both fit) can do that job as can Hudds. I see what you are saying and sort of agree. I just think you get better value at the moment from buying midfielders, eg Zokora cost us £6.2 mil (not £8 mil as reported) and Wigan want £6 mil for Chimbonda. Zokora was one of the stars of the World Cup, Chimbonda only just made the French squad and had no chance of playing. Where is the justification for that sort of fee for a right back.

Haven't seen Ghaly play, so cannot comment. Taino is a busy player and perhaps could dash past an opponent or too through hard running, but he doesn't possess the close control required to dribble his way into the box. Hudds simply is too slow to really run with the ball. To find another CM equal to or better than Jenas will cost more than what we sold Carrick for. So at this point in time, I'd rather leave Jenas in midfield and play Lee there if we can't find a top level RB.

[Welsh Spur]

Lee impressed me at the World Cup, and I don't think Jenas is suited to that right side; he's a player who like to float around, and cover the entire pitch. His box to box style is what makes him the player he is.

[spurs61]

Haven't seen Ghaly play, so cannot comment. Taino is a busy player and perhaps could dash past an opponent or too through hard running, but he doesn't possess the close control required to dribble his way into the box. Hudds simply is too slow to really run with the ball. To find another CM equal to or better than Jenas will cost more than what we sold Carrick for. So at this point in time, I'd rather leave Jenas in midfield and play Lee there if we can't find a top level RB.

I see what you are saying but I disagree about Tainio, he started life as a tricky and skilful striker! Dribbling isn't about pace, it's about close control, Carrick isn't exactly Linford Christie but his dribbling technique is outstanding, just a shame we hardly saw it.

[JJ]

I see what you are saying but I disagree about Tainio, he started life as a tricky and skilful striker! Dribbling isn't about pace, it's about close control, Carrick isn't exactly Linford Christie but his dribbling technique is outstanding, just a shame we hardly saw it.

Yeah, Carrick knows how to shift his body weight very well. His run against Arsenal showed that, he didn't do anything fancy, but walked past a bunch of players.

[Spur]

I think all this talk of JJ at right back isn't right. He's a centre midfielder and should stay there. Not only that, but if he didn't even want to play wide right for Newcastle, what chance would he want to play at right back...?

He'll be out like a shot.

[Chinaman]

It's a waste of his talent and goal-scoring ability.

[derek zoolander]

if it came down to preferances i think i would take

1. trabelsi
2. degen (very good player)
3. tainio at rb
4. neil (he's a complete fudge tunnel but he is a hard tackler and thats what we should have, a rock hard defence with the class of ledley)

[McSpurs]

We should move Lee to right back and go for someone like Sorin for LB.

[SCIFIN17YID]

I say call a vote Chimbonda Or Lucas Neil, lol some one post up a pic of this lucas neil, thanks i have no idea who he is lol.

[nuttyhotspurs]

I remember seeing him against Liverpool when Santini was in charge, first game of 2004-05 season, and he looked a poor player....terrified, nervous, and brought nothing to the team. I can't agree that he's got potential. Maybe Championship potential, but not prem.

im sorry but he played awesome in that game!

[nuttyhotspurs]

did anyone see ssn tonite? it showed chimbo coming on at half time for wigan and he got booed to f"£$!!! i cannot see him staying at wigan

[Aussiespur]

did anyone see ssn tonite? it showed chimbo coming on at half time for wigan and he got booed to f"£$!!! i cannot see him staying at wigan


Quick, let's offer them 2.5 million !!

[onthejazzin77]

How did Degen play yesterday? Anyone know / have an opinion?

[hastingsyid]

chimbo will sign by start of season........trust me people

[Houdini logic]

Whos is degan!?

Suddenly everyones saying he's GOD when his name wasn't mentioned two days ago

[shoot_ffs]

well i didn't see much of degen in the dortmund game, which is surprising seeing as we didn't have a left wing and ekotto didn't get forward at all. hard to call his defensive duties against nothing.

[Billywhizz]

Rumours are flying about that Wigan are ready to do a deal of £5.5m, looks like we will pay £3.5m upfront and the other £2m based on appearances. I think this makes Jewell look a bigger nob than he was in the 1st place. If i was Levy i'd tell him to stick it where the sun don't shine as we have cover in the full back position's concerntrating on a L/M player would be the best bet