the scum

[Keanoldinho]

what say you?

they've just lost 2 of there best players and are showing no signs of getting replacements. I know they bought the Belgian kid who's 5'10" and a CB but he'll hardly replace Toure and could flop. danish bender boy looks to be replacing the bay whore and he's no where near the player. They're not looking a good bet for CL spot next season the way shitty are strengthening.

Is this really the beginning of the end for our scummy rivals? :rock:

[Gino Ginelli]

Could be, but we've seen them depleted like this before, and the players that Wenger has groomed to step in have more than risen to the challenge. The same may well happen again!

[olly27]

Also Nasri is out for at least 6 weeks...they pick up many more injuries early doors they could be off to a very shake start.

[Keanoldinho]

Could be, but we've seen them depleted like this before, and the players that Wenger has groomed to step in have more than risen to the challenge. The same may well happen again!



yeah but to me something feels different about it this time and with shitty there plucking out some of their best players and they're league rivals

once the scum fall out of the CL cash cow they are doomed and Cesc will leave and then they'll be super doomed I can't wait the fall of the scum is upon us :cheers:

[Keanoldinho]

one more thing are the scum now shittys feeder club? :rofl:

[Gino Ginelli]

yeah but to me something feels different about it this time and with shitty there plucking out some of their best players and they're league rivals

once the scum fall out of the CL cash cow they are doomed and Cesc will leave and then they'll be super doomed I can't wait the fall of the scum is upon us :cheers:

That is certainly the big worry for them isn't it? Lose the CL revenue and then lose Fabregas to his long desired move to Barca and it'll look very very bleak.

My worry is that they're lack of financial clout in the transfer market is a result of the construction of the Emirates, is that right?

So with our 60,000 seater completed will we face the same problem in the succeeding years? We don't have that CL revenue to bolster coffers each season.

[olly27]

That is certainly the big worry for them isn't it? Lose the CL revenue and then lose Fabregas to his long desired move to Barca and it'll look very very bleak.

My worry is that they're lack of financial clout in the transfer market is a result of the construction of the Emirates, is that right?

So with our 60,000 seater completed will we face the same problem in the succeeding years? We don't have that CL revenue to bolster coffers each season.

We are not banking on revenue from Europe to fund it I would imagine. They way we structure the finance would be different I guess.

[Gino Ginelli]

We are not banking on revenue from Europe to fund it I would imagine. They way we structure the finance would be different I guess.

Yeah of course, I just worry that we'll struggle for money once it's complete.

[olly27]

Yeah of course, I just worry that we'll struggle for money once it's complete.

It does make you wonder, yeah...

[Baleinho]

Hmmm...

Sad thing is, you look at the Goons strike-force:

Eduardo
RVP
Bendtner
Arshavin
Walcott

Albeit, you wouldnt tend to play Theo as an out and out striker.

They wanted rid of Toure anyway so there really not in as bad of a position as you may think. They do have an incredibly strong team either way, so I dont think there going to struggle that much.

I can actually see Liverpool having a shit season and them loosing out on CL spots.... Rafa being sacked and there back to square one.

Just to clarify, im NOT a gooner, I just look at it from an outside perspective, bias doesnt come into it.

[berbzy 'G']

Van Persie and Arshavin upfront. That sounds f*cking horrible :stupid:

[earl warwick]

what say you?

they've just lost 2 of there best players and are showing no signs of getting replacements. I know they bought the Belgian kid who's 5'10" and a CB but he'll hardly replace Toure and could flop. danish bender boy looks to be replacing the bay whore and he's no where near the player. They're not looking a good bet for CL spot next season the way shitty are strengthening.

Is this really the beginning of the end for our scummy rivals? :rock:

No, and if you have a house, you're safe to put it on that not happening. They lost their best players when Overmars, Petit, Vieira, Henry and others left. Result? They didn't win any trophies in the latter cases, but were still at a position of power we'd all easily settle for.

[choda]

No, and if you have a house, you're safe to put it on that not happening. They lost their best players when Overmars, Petit, Vieira, Henry and others left. Result? They didn't win any trophies in the latter cases, but were still at a position of power we'd all easily settle for.

Yes, but now they are even losing the second rate side they have now compared to the old one. They look in big trouble for staying in the cl, it will be nip and tuck imo like a few years back. There are two teams coming right for them, shitty and spurs. Both have equal quality now and very good managers.

[KevSpur]

That is certainly the big worry for them isn't it? Lose the CL revenue and then lose Fabregas to his long desired move to Barca and it'll look very very bleak.

My worry is that they're lack of financial clout in the transfer market is a result of the construction of the Emirates, is that right?

So with our 60,000 seater completed will we face the same problem in the succeeding years? We don't have that CL revenue to bolster coffers each season.

I put my concerns re the new stadium on a different thread a few days back,
but at the time it seemed like I was in a minority of 1.
Simple questions come to me, like if we can't afford players like Huntelaar now, how the hell can we in future when we owe God knows how many hundreds of millions for the new stadium.
As I said at the time, please name the English club which has built a new stadium who has gone on to better things.
I really feel this subject deserves its own thread.

[LifeTimeYido]

I put my concerns re the new stadium on a different thread a few days back,
but at the time it seemed like I was in a minority of 1.
Simple questions come to me, like if we can't afford players like Huntelaar now, how the hell can we in future when we owe God knows how many hundreds of millions for the new stadium.
As I said at the time, please name the English club which has built a new stadium who has gone on to better things.
I really feel this subject deserves its own thread.

For too long now we have needed to make the Lane bigger and better..... financially we are reasonably well equipped to do it.

And IMO the reason we cant get players like Huntelaar is because of the stadium.... and the reason we are seeing so many youngsters in pre-season.

I also think Harry has been told this.

[berbzy 'G']

For too long now we have needed to make the Lane bigger and better..... financially we are reasonably well equipped to do it.

And IMO the reason we cant get players like Huntelaar is because of the stadium.... and the reason we are seeing so many youngsters in pre-season.

I also think Harry has been told this.

Agreed. I've noticed that as soon as our stadium plans have finally been announced, We havent been splashing the cash as much as we used too.

[KevSpur]

Agreed. I've noticed that as soon as our stadium plans have finally been announced, We havent been splashing the cash as much as we used too.

Well that's the question really, do we want a great stadium or a great team ?

[hastingsyid]

Well that's the question really, do we want a great stadium or a great team ?

both ....................:dong::dong:

[berbzy 'G']

Well that's the question really, do we want a great stadium or a great team ?

I would take the stadium. We need a bigger stadium in order to attract top players. Ever noticed how many players who join teams like Arsenal and Man Utd comment on the ''world class'' stadium. Our new stadium will be the start of something. But if we can assemble a great team before its built, then f*cking superb.

[LifeTimeYido]

Well that's the question really, do we want a great stadium or a great team ?

We can have both...... I have always wanted us to blood more youngsters.... and Looking at Livermore, Rose and Bostok so far I would say we are heading in the right direction.

I would sacrifice a few years to get the stadium I think we deserve and a good team that has finally utilised our talented youngsters.

[highlander]

Agreed. I've noticed that as soon as our stadium plans have finally been announced, We havent been splashing the cash as much as we used too.


missed the january transfer window then did ya?

[berbzy 'G']

missed the january transfer window then did ya?

Our stadium plans wernt fully designed or announced till way after January :001_rolleyes:

[PaxtonPaul]

I hate to sound like im praising the scum, but what alot of people dont seem to realise is too many clubs are punching well above their weights in their transfer dealings and eventually the money will just dry up. Giants like Utd and Liverpool are all living off borrowed money and eventually these billionaires will get bored with pumping there money into the likes of City as Abramovich is already showing signs of with Chelsea. So what the scum has is a long term plan to clear their debts first and what they are doing now is easily getting by on what could be considered by a big club as a shoestring budget. I hate to say it but in 10yrs time they will be laughing!

[Shelfside]

Even if Arsenal are there for the taking,it will be Man City who will be the ones to overtake them.We had our chance in 2005/06 and didn't take it.
As for what do we need,a great stadium or a great team,it's quite obvious:a great team.What would you prefer to watch,a great team in a shite ground or a shite team in a great ground?.

[KevSpur]

Something interesting I heard on Talksport today.
A poll amongst football supporters revealed a third were planning to cut back on their football expenditure this season, due to the credit crunch hitting home.
Now we have 26000 on the season ticket waiting list. No one takes themselves off the list for obvious reasons. But if they were all offered them tomorrow, how many could afford to take them up?
Who knows what the financial climate will be like in 3 years time, the banking experts didn't see the collapse which happened virtually overnight, so there is no one trustworthy to predict what state we will be in in 3 or 4 years time.
It's not the stadium which has finished halfway up the PL on average, but the players.

[highlander]

Our stadium plans wernt fully designed or announced till way after January :001_rolleyes:

yeah but it wasnt like the plans werent in the pipeline long before. i think the board will have budgeted fairly well for it and spending will be at a decent level.

[wayne wonder]

They always land on their feet its the arsenal way they get hunterlaar and it could be game over for most people because he'll score a shed load in that side christ on a bike willem korsten could

[MiloMinderbinder]

That is certainly the big worry for them isn't it? Lose the CL revenue and then lose Fabregas to his long desired move to Barca and it'll look very very bleak.

My worry is that they're lack of financial clout in the transfer market is a result of the construction of the Emirates, is that right?

So with our 60,000 seater completed will we face the same problem in the succeeding years? We don't have that CL revenue to bolster coffers each season.

totally different financial models for our new stadium and Scum Land. They have built CL revenue into their models and budgets and are utterly reliant on that. No CL, big, big trouble. We on the other hand have merely based our projections on normal trading accounts, seeing as how we've never been in the CL we certainly haven't budgeted for the revenue thereon. We may have to tighten our purse strings a little but not by much.

[malc123]

Try & ignore what happens with scum. However remember their fans getting on the back of one of their players but cannot remember who? was it Toure?
They will be 4th or thereabouts again. It is in the mental toughness area that City & us will fail to catch them. Where is the leadership?

[Keanoldinho]

Try & ignore what happens with scum. However remember their fans getting on the back of one of their players but cannot remember who? was it Toure?
They will be 4th or thereabouts again. It is in the mental toughness area that City & us will fail to catch them. Where is the leadership?



it was eboue

they really aren't very mentally tough either alot of youngsters and Gallas is a head bin

I reckon they're there for the taking this season even more so than last, they're soft as fvck through the middle

[choda]

Try & ignore what happens with scum. However remember their fans getting on the back of one of their players but cannot remember who? was it Toure?
They will be 4th or thereabouts again. It is in the mental toughness area that City & us will fail to catch them. Where is the leadership?

Jesus, the last thing it will be is leadership. Wenger's coaching more like, how he gets his teams passing the ball. Their ball retention is superb. And they've two absolute world class players in Fabregas and Arshavin plus lots of good technique and pace throughout.

They do get a bit narrow in the final third, wingers come off the line far too much but that's more an issue in europe where the pace isn't ridiculous and means you can't just ding dong up and down all day on counters down the middle.

That's what I fear about Arsenal, certainly not their leadership.