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deadleyledley
15th July 2009, 10:23 AM
apparently we rejected 14mill from sunderland.
just so we can gain an extra 2.8mill to make up for the money we paid.
personally i would have sold him straght away.

TheRealestYiddo
15th July 2009, 10:25 AM
apparently we rejected 14mill from sunderland.
just so we can gain an extra 2.8mill to make up for the money we paid.
personally i would have sold him straght away.

I would of *****ed in my pants if we had got that much money back for him.

*Easily excited* :blush:

Ginola's Son
15th July 2009, 10:25 AM
Agreed, how can we hope to recoup the full whack when the guy hasn't been worth the money?

14 million should have been snapped up no questions asked.

morepheus
15th July 2009, 10:32 AM
if they really did offer £14 million we shud have snatched their hands off !!

rumour has it they are now after Crouch so we might have missed out by trying to get the £16.5 million back

Mattyboii
15th July 2009, 11:27 AM
i for one woulda taken it but lately ive been thinking we mighta as well keep him.
i mean he was our top scorer and he aint that bad. i got his twitter, and hes al for staying by the looks of things and hes giving his all in training

Burgess Hil Yid
15th July 2009, 11:30 AM
I reckon Bent knows that its Defoe and another up front

he thinks Pav is not fancied by Harry

so perhaps he can see himself getting a good run in the team

Go knows where Keane fits in though!!

yid4lifemk
15th July 2009, 12:01 PM
I really cant see harry being stupid enough to turn down 14 million......surely we must be the only club stupid enough to pay 16.7 million for him...

Baleinho
15th July 2009, 12:06 PM
I think it might be a bid too far in this case. If Levy looses out hes going to look FVCKING stupid. On the other hand, he knows how to get the most amount of money available for players and inflate their prices somewhat.

I wouldnt be suprised if he went for £15mill. Quite frankly, thats a decent take, loosing 1.5 or so million on a player that is just at 1/2 the quality everyone thought he was.

Hes a shrewd businessman is ol' Levy, wait and see.


Lets just hope we dont start panic buying players soooooon....

USSpurs
15th July 2009, 12:27 PM
I think it might be a bid too far in this case. If Levy looses out hes going to look FVCKING stupid. On the other hand, he knows how to get the most amount of money available for players and inflate their prices somewhat.

I wouldnt be suprised if he went for £15mill. Quite frankly, thats a decent take, loosing 1.5 or so million on a player that is just at 1/2 the quality everyone thought he was.

Hes a shrewd businessman is ol' Levy, wait and see.


Lets just hope we dont start panic buying players soooooon....

LEVY - what the F**k are you doing?
Have you secretly brought Damien Comoli back behind the scenes and not told anyone????

14M for Bent is the best offer you could ever expect - OONE is going to pony up more than that.

Needless to say, I'd do this deal in a heartbeat

Keanoldinho
15th July 2009, 12:44 PM
The transfer market in fooked this summer so I ask why sell Bent for 14mil a proven EPL striker who will score 15+ goals easily when he's not even first choice when players like Jones or Crouch will cost you 20mil?

Plus the report is probably bollox too and I've slated Bent alot but the guy is a very good option to have off the bench when legs get tired late on he can really get at the defence. Fook sunderland to trying to charge us 20mil for Jones then offering 14 for Bent yeah they can do one.

Our squad without any transfer activity is well capable of a top 5 or 6 finish so what's the point of selling good players for less than we paid and buying others for more than they're worth. It's like selling Malbranque and buying Bentley what was the point.

Levy just pulled 8.65 mil for Zok so I for one will not question his ability to get the maximum ammount of money for a player

TURKISH
15th July 2009, 12:47 PM
If Sunderland want 20m for Jones who struggles to score over 10 goals a season then how much can we charge for Bent who scores nearly 20 goals a season...in any team?

USSpurs
15th July 2009, 12:47 PM
The transfer market in fooked this summer so I ask why sell Bent for 14mil a proven EPL striker who will score 15+ goals easily when he's not even first choice when players like Jones or Crouch will cost you 20mil?

Plus the report is probably bollox too and I've slated Bent alot but the guy is a very good option to have off the bench when legs get tired late on he can really get at the defence. Fook sunderland to trying to charge us 20mil for Jones then offering 14 for Bent yeah they can do one.

Our squad without any transfer activity is well capable of a top 5 or 6 finish so what's the point of selling good players for less than we paid and buying others for more than they're worth. It's like selling Malbranque and buying Bentley what was the point.

Levy just pulled 8.65 mil for Zok so I for one will not question his ability to get the maximum ammount of money for a player

Disagree mate - Bent doesn't work with either Defoe, keane or Pav - so why hang on to him when you could of just had 14M to invest elsewhere. Looks like Sunderland are gettign crouch now for 12M - not 20...if this is true, I don't see any other team being remotely interested in Bent and imo he does not fit this team - never has and never will.
Bad move Levy

Gino Ginelli
15th July 2009, 12:57 PM
Quite a few alternate opinions on here, and they all make sense. £14m for Bent would seem like a great offer, considering it's only £1.5m lost on what was an inflated fee in the first place.

But with an improved replacement costing potentially £15m upwards then what would be the point. Like some have said, he get's 15 goals at least a season, and would be fine on the bench. He wouldn't be happy with it though and an unhappy player can be detrimental to the overall team, as we've seen this last couple of seasons.

But having said that, £14m would help us finance the signing of a good CM/LW/CB etc, because we don't really need 4 top strikers here do we, in fact it's been one of the awkward issues surrounding our squad for a while now. Too many cooks etc etc.

__5__
15th July 2009, 12:59 PM
If Sunderland want 20m for Jones who struggles to score over 10 goals a season then how much can we charge for Bent who scores nearly 20 goals a season...in any team?

He did spend half the season injured........

This bent jones thing could all end up being pie in the sky......A swap, with you giving us £8mill

that means Jones is half his value, and bent is worthless....sound right?

MiloMinderbinder
15th July 2009, 01:00 PM
The reported fee we paid for Bent would have included add ons and success clauses. There is no way we've outlaid £16mil for him thus far therefore £14mil if it's a flat fee is good business.

Keanoldinho
15th July 2009, 01:03 PM
Disagree mate - Bent doesn't work with either Defoe, keane or Pav - so why hang on to him when you could of just had 14M to invest elsewhere. Looks like Sunderland are gettign crouch now for 12M - not 20...if this is true, I don't see any other team being remotely interested in Bent and imo he does not fit this team - never has and never will.
Bad move Levy


because he scores loads of goals and is a good option to have plus he doesn't complain alot at being second fiddle

Crouch will go for more than 12 mil though just wait and see before quoting numbers and this article could be aload of shite

Bent is also a good player to have against the top 4 because they hold a high line and he can burn them on the counter he scored away from home against chavski, manure and the scum last season so he's definately a good option to have.

USSpurs
15th July 2009, 01:12 PM
I don't rate him as highly as you do mate - I can understand your points but I look at him as being big, slow, can't tackle worth shit. His game is to sit and wait in front of the net and poach a goal. It relies on balls being played over the defenders and to his feet - which unless I'm completely blind, is not the way we play from the middle.
I will freely admit that I have never liked Darren bent for Spurs - I know he has scored goals but I wonder how many of them were in the fist half of last season when we were utter shite compared to the second half? To me he isd not a game changer - not someone that other teams would lose sleep at night over. He's one dimensional and doesn't our game.
I'm sure he's a good bloke and all that and I know he's not a malcontent, but i think his career and our interests would be better served if he is traded

Keanoldinho
15th July 2009, 01:20 PM
I don't rate him as highly as you do mate - I can understand your points but I look at him as being big, slow, can't tackle worth shit. His game is to sit and wait in front of the net and poach a goal. It relies on balls being played over the defenders and to his feet - which unless I'm completely blind, is not the way we play from the middle.
I will freely admit that I have never liked Darren bent for Spurs - I know he has scored goals but I wonder how many of them were in the fist half of last season when we were utter shite compared to the second half? To me he isd not a game changer - not someone that other teams would lose sleep at night over. He's one dimensional and doesn't our game.
I'm sure he's a good bloke and all that and I know he's not a malcontent, but i think his career and our interests would be better served if he is traded

well he's definately not slow and he's a striker they generally can't tackle it's not part of their game

his game is quick through balls on the counter down the channels so he can get inbehind a high line and score hence the reason he scored away from home against 3 of the top 4. It most certainly isn't a ball to his feet. That little bit of rubbish there makes me think you don't know what you're talking about

USSpurs
15th July 2009, 01:52 PM
well he's definately not slow and he's a striker they generally can't tackle it's not part of their game

his game is quick through balls on the counter down the channels so he can get inbehind a high line and score hence the reason he scored away from home against 3 of the top 4. It most certainly isn't a ball to his feet. That little bit of rubbish there makes me think you don't know what you're talking about

Sorry - am I missing the numerous times that Darren Bent manages to turn and break away from a defender and score? Am I missing the Darren Bent highlight reel where he manages to actually take a ball off someone instead of lumbering up and getting close but no cigar? I see this from Defoe and Keane - I don't see that from Bent.
You're in the States so you send me that DVD and I'll watch it ok?

Keanoldinho
15th July 2009, 10:57 PM
Sorry - am I missing the numerous times that Darren Bent manages to turn and break away from a defender and score? Am I missing the Darren Bent highlight reel where he manages to actually take a ball off someone instead of lumbering up and getting close but no cigar? I see this from Defoe and Keane - I don't see that from Bent.
You're in the States so you send me that DVD and I'll watch it ok?



here you go watch all 8 minutes of this then tell me he wouldn't be a good option to have off the bench when we need to nick a goal all this is from last season too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3GV4eVg28

the guy scored at the bridge, immigrants and OT did any other away striker manage that last season

aftershock961
15th July 2009, 10:59 PM
For the statistic lovers out there, Who did Bent score against last season and in which contest?

Keanoldinho
16th July 2009, 12:52 AM
For the statistic lovers out there, Who did Bent score against last season and in which contest?


you seriously want someone to go through all 17 of Bents goals and name the opposition and competition they were scored against and in?:laugh:


I'll tell you what though the 3 goals he scored away against the top 4 clubs were in the EPL

buzz25
16th July 2009, 07:57 AM
The transfer market in fooked this summer so I ask why sell Bent for 14mil a proven EPL striker who will score 15+ goals easily when he's not even first choice when players like Jones or Crouch will cost you 20mil?

Plus the report is probably bollox too and I've slated Bent alot but the guy is a very good option to have off the bench when legs get tired late on he can really get at the defence. Fook sunderland to trying to charge us 20mil for Jones then offering 14 for Bent yeah they can do one.

Our squad without any transfer activity is well capable of a top 5 or 6 finish so what's the point of selling good players for less than we paid and buying others for more than they're worth. It's like selling Malbranque and buying Bentley what was the point.

Levy just pulled 8.65 mil for Zok so I for one will not question his ability to get the maximum ammount of money for a player

Could not agree with you more. Bent has limitations but we know that. To buy someone of his quality we are going to have to spend £15m+.

If Arry can't get inside the head of Pav and make him a better player then Pav should be the one that goes. I think Pav has potential but Arry's built teams on getting inside players heads and make them play better. If Pav can't even understand Arry, I don't think he is right for us.

Bent has got goals in him. if played in 35 games he will get 15 goals.

JWS
16th July 2009, 08:54 AM
apparently we rejected 14mill from sunderland.
just so we can gain an extra 2.8mill to make up for the money we paid.
personally i would have sold him straght away.

Have I lost the plot here? If I add Zokora's £7m to Bent's £12m, that makes £19m - yes? If Huntelaar is going for £15.5m, what's the problem?:001_wub:


JWS.

CardiffSPur
16th July 2009, 09:00 AM
Have I lost the plot here? If I add Zokora's £7m to Bent's £12m, that makes £19m - yes? If Huntelaar is going for £15.5m, what's the problem?:001_wub:


JWS.

levy wants him for £15.25m, not a penny more
(fvck i sound like TLD there!)

MiloMinderbinder
16th July 2009, 12:40 PM
Despite the fact that Bent is clearly very limited as a footballer I will maintain that he is one of the few proven Premier League goalscorers, you can not argue with his record. He doesn't suit us at all and has still plundered double figures in both seasons. That, my friends, is the mark of a genuine goalscorer. If he had a first touch and could link play you'd be talking about a £30mil player. This doesn't mena I like him or want him to stay, but there is no way we should sell before getting a better player in.

Keanoldinho
16th July 2009, 12:44 PM
Despite the fact that Bent is clearly very limited as a footballer I will maintain that he is one of the few proven Premier League goalscorers, you can not argue with his record. He doesn't suit us at all and has still plundered double figures in both seasons. That, my friends, is the mark of a genuine goalscorer. If he had a first touch and could link play you'd be talking about a £30mil player. This doesn't mena I like him or want him to stay, but there is no way we should sell before getting a better player in.


exactly how I feel on the matter

nowhere near my favourite player and I slated him numerous times last season but goals win you football matches so if we can't get a replacement before we sell then Sunderland, Everton, Villa etc... can all fook off

if last season taught us anything it should be don't sell you're top scorers without adequate replacements

USSpurs
16th July 2009, 12:48 PM
Refusing to take 14M for Bent could be a huge mistake as it sounds like Spurs need to come up with the cash up front if they want to sign Huntelaar (as Stutgart have offered 15M up front while we've allegedly offered terms).
If you sign Hunntelaar or Negredo from Madrid )it's going to be one of the two)....where does that leave Bent?
It doesn't look like Defoe or Keane are going anywhere and if we won't lose money on Bent, you can be sure that there is noone who's going to offer what we paid for Pav.

MiloMinderbinder
16th July 2009, 12:54 PM
Refusing to take 14M for Bent could be a huge mistake as it sounds like Spurs need to come up with the cash up front if they want to sign Huntelaar (as Stutgart have offered 15M up front while we've allegedly offered terms).
If you sign Hunntelaar or Negredo from Madrid )it's going to be one of the two)....where does that leave Bent?
It doesn't look like Defoe or Keane are going anywhere and if we won't lose money on Bent, you can be sure that there is noone who's going to offer what we paid for Pav.

Pav will have his admirers, he's a very good player just not physical enough for EPL.

I'm sure Bent will offski but probably not until we have a replacement in the bag or as near as damn it. I'd actaully go for Negredo who looks an utter beast of a centre forward.

USSpurs
16th July 2009, 12:57 PM
I'd love Negredo - not that I don't rate Huuntlaar, but I think with him, he'd be immediately looking to pull a Berbatov and be trying to get a trade to a Big 4 team.....

However, with Sunderland signing Crouch, who out there would be interested in Bent? I mean every PL club now knows that Spurs are asking too much for him

Keanoldinho
16th July 2009, 01:01 PM
Refusing to take 14M for Bent could be a huge mistake as it sounds like Spurs need to come up with the cash up front if they want to sign Huntelaar (as Stutgart have offered 15M up front while we've allegedly offered terms).
If you sign Hunntelaar or Negredo from Madrid )it's going to be one of the two)....where does that leave Bent?
It doesn't look like Defoe or Keane are going anywhere and if we won't lose money on Bent, you can be sure that there is noone who's going to offer what we paid for Pav.



I don't believe all this we have to raise up all our transfer kitty in the slightest I think it's a negotiating tactic. We just got 7-8 mil for Zoko and alot of our players have suitors willing to pay reasonable fees so if a player like Huntelaar was really trying to sign up Levy would be on it in a flash I just think he's holding out for a CL team. Huntelaar would shift loads of kits too tons of Yids would be right out the door getting Huntelaar on the new shirt.

Park_Lane
16th July 2009, 04:51 PM
I think we have a couple of signings coming up and need the full amount for players to be able to afford them - also, Bent is a talent - he may not have had the chance to prove it at Spurs but he has scored (most of the times) when he has been given a chance. If we are going to sell him, he will come back to bite us on the arse - so we need to make sure that the money that we get for him is enough to get a decent replacement!
Levy can milk the extra pennies out of any deal - he showed that with Zokora and Berbatov - my only fear is that he will drag it all out and there won't be anyone left to buy when he has the cash!

USSpurs
16th July 2009, 05:00 PM
I think we have a couple of signings coming up and need the full amount for players to be able to afford them - also, Bent is a talent - he may not have had the chance to prove it at Spurs but he has scored (most of the times) when he has been given a chance. If we are going to sell him, he will come back to bite us on the arse - so we need to make sure that the money that we get for him is enough to get a decent replacement!
Levy can milk the extra pennies out of any deal - he showed that with Zokora and Berbatov - my only fear is that he will drag it all out and there won't be anyone left to buy when he has the cash!

PL mate - who except for Sunderland showed any interest in Bent?

If they are hellbent (!) on signing a new striker or two, it clearly sends the signal that Bent doesn't factor in Harry's plans so why not take 14M????
I am not on an anti Bent agenda, but 14M is 14M and I can't think of too many other clubs that would sign him (I can't see Bent signing for a non PL club) God knows we could use those funds right about now to sign Negredo or Huuntelaar and with the Zokora money, get a true LW midfielder

Park_Lane
16th July 2009, 05:05 PM
PL mate - who except for Sunderland showed any interest in Bent?

If they are hellbent (!) on signing a new striker or two, it clearly sends the signal that Bent doesn't factor in Harry's plans so why not take 14M????
I am not on an anti Bent agenda, but 14M is 14M and I can't think of too many other clubs that would sign him (I can't see Bent signing for a non PL club) God knows we could use those funds right about now to sign Negredo or Huuntelaar and with the Zokora money, get a true LW midfielder

They are hellbent on signing a new striker or two - who else is out there that would sign for them? Bent would go there in a heartbeat just to get a game, apart from him who is there available? Crouch - possibly, but who else? What I was saying was that I think he's worth what we are asking (certainly in the current market) but that we need to watch that Levy doesn't hang on and hand on to get top dollar thus meaning that we miss out on Negrado/Huntelaar.
It all comes down to Levy's decisions: get the extra cash or get the cash!?