Carrick gone?

[Neil_Vaughan]

Apparently a lot of the talk now is Carrick gone to Man Utd for £14m with the fee rising to £17m or £18m

Discuss....

[suBerb]

I think that £17m-£18m would be a superb deal. We can buy with this money both a great LM/LW and a very good RB.

[Spur]

It's true, and your spot on with the fee rising too. I was told 14mil, but will rise, so still unsure what to. And as I have just said in another thread the bloke is hardly wrong and I found out a good few hours ago now, if there are more people coming out and saying the same thing then it is a definate move in my book. Only stumbling block now would be a medical.

[highlander]

Only stumbling block now would be a medical.


why, did Defoe do what he said he would and kick him so to prevent the move lol

[Spur]

I hope not, personally I think this is a good deal. We have a ready made replacement in the Hudd, a guaranteed 14mil in the bank for immediate purchases, only one or two positions to fill, and Didier Zokora to step in to the defensive midfield role. We still have enough midfielders to keep going.

My only hope now is that Mikey does not play against Inter.

I'd also like to that I don't think Man Utd will become better for having him, a replacement for Roy Keane he certainly is not.

And also the add-on fees I believe will be to do with immediate success in the PL and possibly UEFA Cup, with only a little bit on long term things like appearances etc.

[Keanoldinho]

ITKs are full of sh!t, is Duff here yet and were's Torres or what about Nedved or Kuyt. It's all a bunch of guess work and they usually get it all wrong reason this rumour is flooding the messages boards today is because Van Nistelrooy just went to Madrid and manure now have an extra 10-15 mil in their budget.

[Spur]

I don't think that the van Nistelrooy thing actually matters. They have an extra 15mil woopy do. They still gonna have to spend 15mil on a new bloody striker.

[JJ]

Yeah, the Carrick deal was never dependent on the sale of Ruud. They've needed a CM for a long time now. Giggs and O'Shea in central midfield anyone?

[Keanoldinho]

I don't think that the van Nistelrooy thing actually matters. They have an extra 15mil woopy do. They still gonna have to spend 15mil on a new bloody striker.

Actually they don't they've got Rooney, Saha, Smith, Solskjaer, and the Italian kid Rossi who destroyed the stiffs league last year. All they need is a new midfield and them strikers will score plenty.

So woopy do the ITKs all jump on the Carrick to manure sh!te again:rolleyes:

[JJ]

Actually they don't they've got Rooney, Saha, Smith, Solskjaer, and the Italian kid Rossi who destroyed the stiffs league last year. All they need is a new midfield and them strikers will score plenty.

So woopy do the ITKs all jump on the Carrick to manure sh!te again:rolleyes:

Will any of those guys score anywhere near as many as Ruud does? And as consistently?

A club of their stature will have to sign someone.

[Spur]

A man who says Rooney is an out and out goal scoring striker is a fool. Ole is not exactly on his best legs. Smith only has one leg and Rossi may be given a game or two but we all know that he is not ready to play week in week out, at least that's what I think, and I think Sir alex thinks that too. Louis is a hot and cold striker, not world class now is he.

[Spur]

Well said JJ.

[JJ]

I just can't figure out who the replacement will be.

Without the goals from Ruud, they'll need a serious replacement.

[Keanoldinho]

Rooney can, Saha can when he's played regularly and Smith when played upfront can score plenty aswell.

I'm not saying they won't sign anybody because I don't know and don't claim to know but all these muppets who claim to be ITK and 99% of the sh!te they type never happens are sad deluded idiots.

[Spur]

But who? Try work it out. It would have to be someone like him.

You know what I think we may have signed the two players they actually need in Berba and Zokora.

[JJ]

None of them are proven consistent goal scorers, not to the level that Ruud knocks them away. They may have the ability, but that won't necessarily work, and Utd need to start proving that they're a match for Chelsea.

[JJ]

But who? Try work it out. It would have to be someone like him.

You know what I think we may have signed the two players they actually need in Berba and Zokora.

Well the general level of interest in our players shows how well we've signed recently really. Couldn't agree more about Berba and Zokora, the footage i've seen of both shows them to be truly world class players. Players who have proven themselves at the highest levels.

[highlander]

i think this was more about RVN demanding to leave. he'd already asked to leave 3 times this year and fell out with fergusen as he took ronaldo's side when the 2 had a training ground spat. United tried to sign berbie as you'll remember and i think Ruud had just had enough.

[suBerb]

As far as I can see, no center-forward in premiership resembles RVN as much as Berba.

[JJ]

As far as I can see, no center-forward in premiership resembles RVN as much as Berba.

Yup. He's a predator. You see on his highlight reel that he scores alot of tap ins, and we've lacked that kind of player for years. A striker who knows where to be at all times.

[Keanoldinho]

This is feckn tag team action here from JJ and Spur

Rooney can score 20+ a season and Saha use to always be up near the top of the goal scoring charts when he played week in week out at Fulham. That leaves them with Smith, Solskajaer, and Rossi to fill in when needed. 5 quality strikers in my book

If United improve their midfield Rooney and Saha will be a lethal pairing upfront, but they need to improve their midfield or they're feckd. That's how I see it anyway

[Spur]

I don't reckon RVN asked to leave 3 times, I reckon that is Fergies bullshit to win over the fans.

[MACCSPURS]

and Carlton Cole and Duff are coming too right?

[Spur]

And regards to ManU's five goalscroing strikers..

Ole is on his last legs. Like I said before Smith only has one leg. Rooney is no RVN, he won't stick them away like RVN. And Saha was top of the scoring charts for Fulham. That great team Fulham. So if I said that Andy Johnson should go there you'd laugh. Likewise if I said Darren Bent or Darius Vassell or Kevin Phillips, but they have all been at the top of the goalscoring charts consistently at some point in their careers....

[Spur]

People on this board said a 7mil bid had been made.

And it was.

[JJ]

This is feckn tag team action here from JJ and Spur

Rooney can score 20+ a season and Saha use to always be up near the top of the goal scoring charts when he played week in week out at Fulham. That leaves them with Smith, Solskajaer, and Rossi to fill in when needed. 5 quality strikers in my book

If United improve their midfield Rooney and Saha will be a lethal pairing upfront, but they need to improve their midfield or they're feckd. That's how I see it anyway

They're all good players, i don't doubt that for a second, but none of them scores with the consistency that Ruud does. Practically no-one in the premiership does.

[suBerb]

And regards to ManU's five goalscroing strikers..

Ole is on his last legs. Like I said before Smith only has one leg. Rooney is no RVN, he won't stick them away like RVN. And Saha was top of the scoring charts for Fulham. That great team Fulham. So if I said that Andy Johnson should go there you'd laugh. Likewise if I said Darren Bent or Darius Vassell or Kevin Phillips, but they have all been at the top of the goalscoring charts consistently at some point in their careers....

A good point!

[highlander]

i doubt if united will buy another striker. i think they'll use this as a building season buy loaning out Rossi and investing in some younger players. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is past his best but still has a bit to give, Rooney will score 20+ but not 30, Saha will chip in with 15+ and im not sure about Smith. ive never rated him myself as a top striker and not at all a goal scorer but time will tell

[Keanoldinho]

And regards to ManU's five goalscroing strikers..

Ole is on his last legs. Like I said before Smith only has one leg. Rooney is no RVN, he won't stick them away like RVN. And Saha was top of the scoring charts for Fulham. That great team Fulham. So if I said that Andy Johnson should go there you'd laugh. Likewise if I said Darren Bent or Darius Vassell or Kevin Phillips, but they have all been at the top of the goalscoring charts consistently at some point in their careers....

The Premiership goal scoring charts;)

and I never said he was at the top I said "Saha use to always be up near the top of the goal scoring charts when he played week in week out at Fulham"

Solskajaer is still a great impact sub and Smith will be fit again soon so that just leaves Rossi who is a very exciting prospect and could become a class player time will tell.

[Spur]

You are right.

But are no where near RVN. And none will be able to continue to set alight the PL all season, for reasons already stated.

[Keanoldinho]

RVN is one of the greatest strikers to ever play in England so trying to replace him is like trying to replace Shearer or Henry. It's not going to happen so you just have to play players who will score you goals and Rooney and Saha will beable to do the job especially if their midfield gets beefed up.

[Spur]

I disagree.

[Keanoldinho]

I disagree.

with what? I feel like arguing go on :p

[highlander]

RVN is one of the greatest strikers to ever play in England so trying to replace him is like trying to replace Shearer or Henry. It's not going to happen so you just have to play players who will score you goals and Rooney and Saha will beable to do the job especially if their midfield gets beefed up.
i think you've got it about right there, RVN is the best stiker united have had in a long time and will be very hard to replace, i still wouldnt rule out a move for Torres

[Keanoldinho]

i think you've got it about right there, RVN is the best stiker united have had in a long time and will be very hard to replace, i still wouldnt rule out a move for Torres

I wud

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5187184.stm

[JJ]

i think you've got it about right there, RVN is the best stiker united have had in a long time and will be very hard to replace, i still wouldnt rule out a move for Torres

Well Torres has said he's not going anywhere.

The fact is the amount of goals Ruud gets is vital to their success, in the same way that Henry is to Arsenal. Granted Utd still have Rooney, but he isn't a prolific scorer yet.

[Spur]

They will have to replace him. I certainly wouldn't go into a season, which for them, it could be argued, is somewhat pivotal and their most important in recent history, with those five strikers.

Rooney is great, don't get me wrong, we all know how good he is, but he is no out and out goalscorer. He can't do it, and he won't do it.

Saha played well last season when given his run after impressing in the League cup. But I highly doubt he will continue like that because he is still a medicore player. Very. I would take a shit load of PL strikers before I take Saha. Everyone would. He is not anywhere near the top in the PL.

Every club needs a top striker, otherwise they suffer. They faulter. They aren't productive. A club of Man Utd's size is now expected by the whole wide world to replace a striker - who may or may not be replaceable - but nevertheless there is a hole to fill, and it needs to be filled now.

Therefore, the Carrick money is not the RVN money, as the RVN money needs to be spent elsewhere. This meaning that the two are unrelated.

[highlander]

yeah i kno he said he's staying put but these tings happen all time. Freddy Sheaphard said Jenas wouldnt leave Newcastle, not even for £20million and a few weeks later he was ours for £7million. things change and im not sayin they will sign Torres al im saying is it could still happen

[Keanoldinho]

Well Torres has said he's not going anywhere.

The fact is the amount of goals Ruud gets is vital to their success, in the same way that Henry is to Arsenal. Granted Utd still have Rooney, but he isn't a prolific scorer yet.

Rooney was only 5 goals behind Ruud last year and will continue to progress so I really don't see Ruud leaving as detrimental as it would be to Arse if Henry left.

I think the cheecky gits are going to try and put in a double bid for Defoe and Carrick and we will tell them to go feck themselves. Look on their official website Defoes picture is the highlight of their transfer rumors section.

[JJ]

Yeah but he's an Madrid hero, it just won't happen.

[Spur]

Ruud played about 40 games less (number not quite correct), he was dropped remember, thats an unfair comparison.

[derek zoolander]

would just like to ask why everyone is bad mouthing carrick so much? yes i understand that he has been quiet when everyone would feel so much better if he had released a simple statement, but for christ's sake he is still a spurs player!!

maybe he has just wanted to remain away from football and relax after a long season and world cup. if he doesnt go and has another great season i will be sure to remind every one of the haters.

lets say he would have scored that goal against arsenal with that great run, he would have a lot more fans thats for sure. i personally think that shows the ability he has and we must nurture that next season

[Spur]

Had he scored that goal he wouldn't be moving, as we would have CL football.

And i'm no hater, i'm just saying it's not necessarily a bad thing he is leaving.

[Keanoldinho]

They will have to replace him. I certainly wouldn't go into a season, which for them, it could be argued, is somewhat pivotal and their most important in recent history, with those five strikers.

Rooney is great, don't get me wrong, we all know how good he is, but he is no out and out goalscorer. He can't do it, and he won't do it.

Saha played well last season when given his run after impressing in the League cup. But I highly doubt he will continue like that because he is still a medicore player. Very. I would take a shit load of PL strikers before I take Saha. Everyone would. He is not anywhere near the top in the PL.

Every club needs a top striker, otherwise they suffer. They faulter. They aren't productive. A club of Man Utd's size is now expected by the whole wide world to replace a striker - who may or may not be replaceable - but nevertheless there is a hole to fill, and it needs to be filled now.

Therefore, the Carrick money is not the RVN money, as the RVN money needs to be spent elsewhere. This meaning that the two are unrelated.

Originally Posted by Spur
I disagree.

[suBerb]

I watched many games of Athletico Madrid. Torres is very skillful but not an out and out goalscorer. Last season he scored 13 goals, nearly half of them were by penalty kicks...He had only one good season - 2003-2004 - when he scored 19. So he seems to be very different from RVN.

[Spur]

Explain...

[JJ]

Rooney was only 5 goals behind Ruud last year and will continue to progress so I really don't see Ruud leaving as detrimental as it would be to Arse if Henry left.

I think the cheecky gits are going to try and put in a double bid for Defoe and Carrick and we will tell them to go feck themselves. Look on their official website Defoes picture is the highlight of their transfer rumors section.

Yeah it wouldn't have the same effect cus Arsenal don't have anyone anywhere near the level of Henry when it comes to scoring, but the amount of goals is about the same.

Surely if Utd intend to compete, they should be aiming to score more goals, and selling your top striker isn't usually the best way to do that.

[suBerb]

Rooney was only 5 goals behind Ruud last year and will continue to progress so I really don't see Ruud leaving as detrimental as it would be to Arse if Henry left.
.


remember Owen...he never scored 20+ Why should Rooney be different?

[JJ]

would just like to ask why everyone is bad mouthing carrick so much? yes i understand that he has been quiet when everyone would feel so much better if he had released a simple statement, but for christ's sake he is still a spurs player!!

maybe he has just wanted to remain away from football and relax after a long season and world cup. if he doesnt go and has another great season i will be sure to remind every one of the haters.

lets say he would have scored that goal against arsenal with that great run, he would have a lot more fans thats for sure. i personally think that shows the ability he has and we must nurture that next season


The modern game is littered with money hungry pricks who will go where the wages are highest. The modern fan appreciates loyalty, a player who openly says that his heart is at this club, otherwise why put the shirt on at all? Look at all the other players who have been linked elsewhere, they've come out and told the fans (after all its the fans who pay their wages) that they want to be at this club. Carrick has said absolutely nothing, which stinks of a player who is considering his options which is as good as saying that when a better offer comes along, he's off.

[Spur]

Hold up, hold up.

Keanoldinho, WTF was that last post about.........?

Getting ratehr annoyed I am.

[Keanoldinho]

I agree that there's a hole to be filled but it's not upfront as Rooney will score 20+ this season and Saha can also chip in with 15-20(I don't rate Saha either but he does score when played) and Solskajaer, Smith, and Rossi can do the job coming of the bench.

If they get a new forward it will be a young player and not a direct replacement for RVN. I also think their Defence and Attack look good but their midfield is old and sh!te except for Ronaldo who really wants to go to Madrid aswell so that's were they must focus.

[Spur]

Rossi will do nothing if played, I don't actually think he will cut it in the Prem despite being a very good player. How much longer is Smith out for, and how long til Ole gets injured?

I'm sorry but I can't agree Saha will score. I just think this season was fluke, and that was only for half, if even that. the thing I will always reemmber about Saha is against Brum in the LC. He was in a good shooting range just outside the box, and no lie, the ball ended up in the second tier. For me, that sums him up.

[highlander]

i cant agre with Spur about Saha. ok he's not world class and never will be but he has a proven 15-20 a season record in the prem for a long time. this is why Man U paid so much for his services

[Spur]

They paid so much but they took a gamble on it. They needed someone quick who could play in the CL, he was at the top of the scoring charts at the time and it's a gamble that hasnt worked IMO. Fulham ruined them regarding the fee. Embarrassing i'd say.

[choda]

Here my tu'penny on this:

Ruudy is a top player, but nobody has mentioned a very important point in this; Two years ago he was somewhat 'irreplacable', but since then he has as Fergie put it, 'Stopped trying, which is unacceptable'. This is the same reason Van Basten dropped and fell out with him aswell.

He used to hold the ball up magnificantly and was a presence up front. That's gone... and that's why he's gone from united. He still scores goals, but he's not the player he was.

I think people are underestimating Saha aswell. He's a top striker, he's quick, strong, good in the air, good movement and he's a good finisher. He's not as good as Ruud two years ago, but he's very good.

They also have probably the second best player in the world in Rooney, and he's only getting better. The only argument I think is whether they need to sign another goalscorer, because who comes in when Saha is injured? Ole has no pace anymore, Rossi is Rooney's understudy (I don't think he's an out and out striker and giggs can play there too). Will Smith do it? Maybe.

[Spur]

Who mentioned Will Smith...?

Rossi is no out and out so i'd agree with that, thats the same reason Rooney won't score bagfalls in the PL. I'm sorry but if they don't replace RVN then they have got a problem on their hands. I truly beleive tht we have bought the two players they need, and because of this we could become better than them.

All we need is a left winger. Now we have a full 14mil to do it and I say we stick equal bids in for Downing, Richardson and Pedersen and see which club bottles it first and accepts. I'd take any three of those and look forward to any of them wearing a lilywhite shirt next season.

[JJ]

COME ON YOU SPURS!

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[Thfc4Life]

Who mentioned Will Smith...?

Rossi is no out and out so i'd agree with that, thats the same reason Rooney won't score bagfalls in the PL. I'm sorry but if they don't replace RVN then they have got a problem on their hands. I truly beleive tht we have bought the two players they need, and because of this we could become better than them.

All we need is a left winger. Now we have a full 14mil to do it and I say we stick equal bids in for Downing, Richardson and Pedersen and see which club bottles it first and accepts. I'd take any three of those and look forward to any of them wearing a lilywhite shirt next season.

Loving your work ;)

[highlander]

Who mentioned Will Smith...?

All we need is a left winger. Now we have a full 14mil to do it and I say we stick equal bids in for Downing, Richardson and Pedersen and see which club bottles it first and accepts. I'd take any three of those and look forward to any of them wearing a lilywhite shirt next season.

very true, i think Richardson is the best winger in the out and out sense, but with Lennon & Routledge on the right i dont think we need another out and out winger on the left which would indicate Downing is the better optin but i cant see them selling unless he demands to leave which i doubt will happen. for our left id still like to see Sorin bought in

[Spur]

I think all three would be tricky to get. But not impossible. And Downing may be the easiest.

[choda]

Who mentioned Will Smith...?

Rossi is no out and out so i'd agree with that, thats the same reason Rooney won't score bagfalls in the PL. I'm sorry but if they don't replace RVN then they have got a problem on their hands. I truly beleive tht we have bought the two players they need, and because of this we could become better than them.

All we need is a left winger. Now we have a full 14mil to do it and I say we stick equal bids in for Downing, Richardson and Pedersen and see which club bottles it first and accepts. I'd take any three of those and look forward to any of them wearing a lilywhite shirt next season.

Yea I noticed when I wrote Will Smith... I chuckled aswell.

Ruudy Ruudster and his Ruud awakening from a hairdryer:
Did Manu look any less last year when Saha came in? I think Rooney was providing whoever was in front of him with so much last year. Ruud partly got his goals from it but was a lazy arsehole in general. Do you really think Fergie would sell a guy he waited so long for if he was still performing like he used to? Look, none of knows what's going to happen really with manu, life without Ruud will be a new chapter for them, which I think could go either way. All of us are really offering conjecture on this matter which to be honest I don't really give a shit about.

We did buy two players they could have used alright. Fergie been letting many slip by. A few more additions and we'll finish above manu.

Our left wing: I'm not sure any of those players are good enough for us, maybe Pedersen. I reckon Ziegler's as good as those guys. And 14 mil is a lot of dough. I'm thinking more Sorin, Petrov, Denilson etc.

[Spur]

Everyone check NEWSNOW, the story has jsut been broken...

Oh wait, it's only Neil, thought he'd get in first did he...?

[Thfc4Life]

I agree either Sorin or Petrov would be brilliant, and both are available I believe at knock down prices, if not we should stick with Ziegler who had an awesome game last night all be it against Bishops Stortford!

[Shuggie13]

Back to the start of the thread. Jol has been saying for the last week that he wants players with commitment. I firmly believe in that too. If Carrick was offered the same money as Ledley and turned it down, then it's bye-bye Geordie boy.

The simple fact is we will be getting close if not more than DOUBLE what we paid for Zokora. Now that is great business. Carrick is good but he isn't 15-18 million pounds worth of good.

One other point, last season he was the main man running the show. He wont be the top boy at United and I'm not so sure he will cope with that, and maybe will sink back to being the oridinary boy he was at West Ham.

I'd offer up an option of spending the money on SWP. I reckon he could do the job on the left and it would piss his dad of to no end. My next choice would be Pedersen he plays like he was born to be a Spur.

[spursmad]

Great deal id say not a bad profit(for a change) usually buy high & sell low.At least weve got a nice few bob to spend

[Gold7]

selling carick to utd would show that we haven't really progressed as a club as much as i thought we had , especially to a club who i think we can compete with.unless of course the player just wants to leave .
we may already have a replacement in zokora but most players need a season to settle.

so i hope the stories are not true it would be like selling Lennon next season.:(

[DarlinginJapan]

So, who's our new midfield two.... JJ and Zokora, Hudd and Ghaly, Davids and Tainio, Murphy and me?

I'm well chuffed with our transfer dealings this summer, it's not great to lose a player like Carrick after him having such a good season last time but it will be interesting to see if/how we spend it.

New right back seems a certainty, that leaves us with left winger or left midfielder. Do we want wingers on both sides, do we have the strength in the middle to cover or should we go for someone like Sorin who could be good on the left without going hell for leather in attack?

[suBerb]

Now it is of vital importance to invest the Carrick transfer money in the wright players...If we do this, we'll be definately better than last season and a hot candidate for a CL position.

We can buy Riquelme for 17-18m pounds, even both Sorin and Riquelme. So the Carrick deal gives us good options to strengthen the team.

imagine a midfield and attack like this:

-----------------Zokora
----------------------------Sorin
Lennon----------Riquelme

--------------------------Defoe/Keane
-------------Berby

nearly, if not out and out, world-class...

[Houdini logic]

Some of these reporters are actual retards!

One report was that we hijacked the RVN deal from Real Madrid as we offered ManYOO Carrick and £10.5million of RVN! hahahahaha, it's too funny, but annoying all the same!

[suBerb]

Sun

Tottenham enquired about Liverpool winger Harry Kewell but were put off by his £50,000-a-week wages.

[Welsh Spur]

All we need is a left winger. Now we have a full 14mil to do it and I say we stick equal bids in for Downing, Richardson and Pedersen and see which club bottles it first and accepts. I'd take any three of those and look forward to any of them wearing a lilywhite shirt next season.
The only one of those three I want here is Pedersen. And that would make my summer, I'd rather have him than Duff. Blackburn have already let Bellamy leave (I know he had a clause) but everyone has a price and maybe we can make Rovers an offer they can't refuse....

[Chaydle]

Is the Carrick price so inflated due to WHU having a sell on fee?? Does anyone know??

[JuicE]

Good Luck to Carrick, he served us well and i wish him success. He doesn't want to stay so weve cashed in. That will almost make up for all the losses and help us as a well funded and well managed Club to prosper for the future. We sold coz he wants to go, thats life and even Chelscum can't keep players happy. Now let's move on and hope Zakora settles quickly into his place. This is one of the best seasons coming and can't bloody wait.

COYS!!!!!!!!

No more Carrick talk!

[Danishspurs]

I'm ****ing devastated that he's leaving... He was our most important player last season, controlling the pace of the game and good at keeping the ball in presurred situations.... Absolutly gutted...

Only positiv is that Hudds might get a run in the first team and a chance to prove what a wonderful talent he is...

COYS!!

[suBerb]

On the whole this is a good deal for us. We have already Zokora, Hudds and Davids and can use the money to strengthen the RB and LM positions. I think that for 15m pounds we can buy a world-class player.

[Welsh Spur]

And I also think that Carrick will be out of his depth at United in the CL, like people have mentioned on here he lacks the ability to take the game by the scruff of the neck, too much of a passenger at times.....

if he could have done it last season we'd be looking at CL qualifiers now. I personally think he may be a little out of his depth in the CL next season.

[suBerb]

bought Carrick for less than 3m pounds and sold him for more than 15m pounds - thath's great buisness mates

With the Carrick and the Manson deals, we have now a lot of money to improve the squad - perhaps around 25m pounds

[Welsh Spur]

don't forget we've spent about £20million already.

[suBerb]

don't forget we've spent about £20million already.

Carrick, Rasiak and Kelly deals are about £20million too...So the Manson money are here mate

[Welsh Spur]

Well that can only be a good thing....:D

[highlander]

it certainly is a good bit of business but i cant help thinking, could we have pushed them nearer the £18million mark. that would have been a great price and one that i would have no qualms over selling him at but still £12million profit over 2 years isnt bad going.

hopefully we can use this money to buy the remainig pieces of the jigsaw which we all know are a RB & LM. i think we should persue Chimbonda for RB and sell Stalteri, perhaps a player-plus-cash deal with Wigan as Chimbonda is not worth £6million.

not sure about the LM, as ive said before id like to take a gamble on Sorin but maybe we are at a stage where we can aford not to take gambles and buy proven players in that position and possibly even in the prem

[Welsh Spur]

Mate, it is £18Million. £15million up front and £3million in incentives. Thats what's being reported anyway.

[highlander]

oh so its not depending on appearances or whatever as those payments can be dodged by not playing him all the time

[Welsh Spur]

appearances, trophies, internationals....you know, the usual.
Why would they pay £15 million for a player who isn't going to play?

[highlander]

well they may use him less so to avoid paying an extra £3million. all should be revealed when the deal goes through next week

[Welsh Spur]

I've just realised that this is a player who's only actually been a first-teamer for one whole season. It makes the transfer so much easier to take and the price seem like something I dreamt up.

[highlander]

very true, i hope to hell he's a one-season-wonder. but then us selling at this price doesnt make Wigans stance on Chimbonda seem so naive does it

[Welsh Spur]

You're right, everybody's looking after number1, you can't blame Wigan as they don't want to lose him but when he wants to go you have to take the highest offer. Carrick was in no rush to leave us, as Defoe was quoted. So we could afford to negotiate a higher fee.

[highlander]

i dont know of anybody else thought it but in the paper today i read that Paul Jewell had a bid accepted for Emerson Boyce who is a RB, and said they hadnt even recieved a bid of £4'5million for Chimbonda which indicates they may be willing to do business at that price, even though he went on to say they still want £6million

[Welsh Spur]

But I don't get how they can demand £6million for a player who isn't worth £6million and doesn't want to play for them. Use your loaf, Jewell!!!

[highlander]

Use your loaf, Jewell!!!

he is a northerner though

[Welsh Spur]

That explains it then....:p

[DonJolSpurano]

surely now we should buy downing with the money?

[Welsh Spur]

I ****ing hope not. He's shite!

[Danishspurs]

Downing is overrated... Don't want him!!

[MACCSPURS]

I'd rather have Downing over Duff any day.

As for Carrick, long gone are the days where players really cared about the clubs they play for. It's all about money, money, money and although Carrick is one of the best players I have seen for a few years who is actually comfortable on the ball that is about it and many have said that to step it up he will need to score more goals and do a lot more during the game.

There were matches last season when he was shite and Jol still never took him off.

Best game Carrick ever played for us......away to Arsenal.

However, if Man Utd want to pay that crazy figure for him then for a £2M investment I'll drive Carrick to Old Trafford :D

[Welsh Spur]

Downing is pie! I'd rather give Reid a chance to prove he's fit!!!!

[choda]

Downing is pie! I'd rather give Reid a chance to prove he's fit!!!!


I totally agree mate. I always think the WC is the acid test of how good players really are. Downing looked good but nothing special. Why do people think some of these players are better than Ziegler?

We want somebody world class: Sorin, Petrov, maybe Denilsen etc.

[Welsh Spur]

Apparently Petrov is unsettled, he'd cost most of the Carrick money too, Atletico signed him for 12 million euros, last summer.

[hastingsyid]

Good riddance to the northern ****,if u dont wanna play for spurs then ****-off

[Welsh Spur]

Well said there hastings!

[hastingsyid]

Martin petrov is the man very skillful and very fast,we should get him at all costs

[hastingsyid]

Well said there hastings!
Im sick of these tossers making a name at spurs then leaving,bottom line is **** HIM

[Welsh Spur]

Martin petrov is the man very skillful and very fast,we should get him at all costs
We need a leftie and he sure looks good. Rumour has it he's unsettled, and the fact Berbatov is here could only help a potential bid....

[suBerb]

Berby and Martin are very close friends...

[Welsh Spur]

Well let's hope Dimitar 'taps' him up!....Just kidding, I could NEVER condone it! :p

[suBerb]

Why does not the club announce the Carrick deal?

[highlander]

is this Martin Petrov any relation to Celtic's Stilian??

[suBerb]

is this Martin Petrov any relation to Celtic's Stilian??

as much as Ashly Cole to Joe Cole

[choda]

Joe Cole and Ashley Cole are brothers.

[spurs61]

Why does not the club announce the Carrick deal?

It it Yoda you is?

[spurs61]

Joe Cole and Ashley Cole are brothers.

They are identical twins

[suBerb]

It it Yoda you is?
yes i think :cool:

[choda]

Mrs. Cole told Mr. Cole that while see was having Ashley she took a lot of Iron tablets.

[shoot_ffs]

so judas has turned to the reds, i hope he does a smithy and ruins his poxy career. he's a lazy bastard anyway and we have two players of better ability that cost half his sell on lol. great doing business, especially as they lost ruud. who's gonna get their goals, saha and rooney are always injured.

[johnnyenglish]

this eulogy (http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2006/07/eulogy/) just about sums up how I feel right now.

[JJ]

this eulogy (http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2006/07/eulogy/) just about sums up how I feel right now.

Haha, wonderful.

Personally, as sad as i am to see him go, i wouldn't want someone who doesn't want to be here playing for us. I expected better of him as he seemed to be quite an honorable guy, but the way this has all gone down has made me think otherwise.

It's disrespectful, and if that's the kind of guy he is, then good riddance.

[Danishspurs]

this eulogy (http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2006/07/eulogy/) just about sums up how I feel right now.
Me too... But it really hurts right now...

[choda]

I don't have one autto of sadness, regret, anger... nuffin. I think it's ideal actually. I think we've better players in there and we can use the funds to strengthen other areas.

I was feeling how you are about Duff for a day or two, but I soon got over that.

[Danishspurs]

I don't have one autto of sadness, regret, anger... nuffin. I think it's ideal actually. I think we've better players in there and we can use the funds to strengthen other areas.

I was feeling how you are about Duff for a day or two, but I soon got over that.
That's not the same.. First of all Carrick is our player and was the heart of the midfield last season, where Duff was a player most of us wanted to come because we thought he could be good... Carrick was good...

Plus carrick was one of my favorite players....

[choda]

That's not the same.. First of all Carrick is our player and was the heart of the midfield last season, where Duff was a player most of us wanted to come because we thought he could be good... Carrick was good...

Plus carrick was one of my favorite players....

Yea, he was important last season. But now we've got Zokora and the Hudd is a year older. You may not realise how good these guys are.

[Keanoldinho]

I think it's a blessing in disguise for afew reasons

1. we're getting a shat load of doe

2. we needed to change our style of play anyway, because building a team around one player never works unless he's Ronaldinho

3. we're getting a shat load of money

4. for all we know Carrprick could just be a one season wonder

5. we're getting a shat load of mullah

6. with all this new doe/money/mullah we can get a top quality RB & LW and probably still not spend all the cash we stick manure for

[Danishspurs]

Yea, he was important last season. But now we've got Zokora and the Hudd is a year older. You may not realise how good these guys are.
Admit I haven't seen much of Zokora, but rate hudds and spoke about giving him more first team chances already last season, and sure in time he will be a better player then Carrick...

And maybe your right, it will just take a couple of days, but right now I'm devastated.... Absolutly gutted...

[coys]

good riddance to the money grabbin sellout jumping ship at the first chance,the least he owes us is his loyalty as we made him what he is, without us getting him he would be NOTHING. so bye bye and dont let the door hit you on the way out! :mad:

(p.s I'm new so hello to all)

[coys]

ok sorry I was being a bit harsh but I still cant believe that he is leaving to go to manure (coughs)money grabber(coughs)....

[Keanoldinho]

he's a ****

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/clubsagreedealoncarrick.html

[Neil_Vaughan]

Welcome to THFCTalk, coys.

Be sure to tell all your Spurs mates about us.

[SurreySpur]

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/clubsagreedealoncarrick.html

its official!!

[coys]

thanks but I dont have any mates that support thfc mostly liverpool (scum)
o.k I oficially or un -oficially retract my previous statement


PRICK SELLOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DIRTY MONEYGRABBING WANK%R
HE'LL BE: FERGIES NEW BITCH!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[hastingsyid]

huddleSTONE the brick shithouse carrick

[Spur]

He's a ****.

[JJ]

He's a ****.

They're the actions of a coward.

[Gold7]

I ****ing hope not. He's shite!

no he's not he's worse than that he's over rated cos he's the only english left winger with a left foot.

[onthejazzin77]

I bet Pedro Mendes is having a chuckle right now. Jol picked Carrick over him and now Carrick has sold out - just like judas and teddy. I think we owe Pedro a massive apology and we are now kicking ourselves for putting faith in Carrick. Im disappointed in his character - but not so much that he is leaving. I think Jenas has more of a goal threat and I did see Carrick get caught in posession too much for my liking last season.

[Keanoldinho]

Carrick has had 1 good season and that's it no more no less and will not be the same player at manure as he was here. Their team will not be built around him and odds are he could turn back into the average midfielder he was at wet spam. We got 15-18 million for him so we should be laughing all the way to the bank.

I'm not mad at him one bit I mean sure he used us and he's a **** but we totally took the piss with that transfer fee, the more I think about it the more I laugh I mean 15-18 mil for a player who's had 1 good season it's bloody hilarious and it shows how old and thick fergie really is.

I just can't wait to see what we do with all this feckn money we got, appy dayz COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







































I'm pissed again

[SCIFIN17YID]

Good ridens, Carrick cash is good for us, now we can develop our team, p.s I couldnt see Carrick improving at all @ Manunited at all I think his form will go back to west ham style, we bought him for peanuts, and get back gold bars :) lots of them heh.