Frank Arnesen ?

[Gold7]

from what i see this is how stuff goes down at chelski.

one day mourino throws his toys out of the pram and starts sreaming
" i want you to buy me so and so !!"
" i want you to buy me so and so !!"

then kenyon who cant't stand the sound of a crying baby quickly gets on his mobile blower and calls the requested players club and asks how much they want for their player the voice on the other side say x million punds

kenyon then insists he wants to pay double that price ,the voice on the other side agrees with out any argument .

kenyon then asks roman for a cheque ,roman gives him the cheque and says to him.

"you save me so much money ,you prevent me from paying through the nose for players then after 2- years we sell them for a third of what we paid, you truely are a genius of a chief exec "

Any way my question's are where is Arnesen?
what does he do for them?
and did they just take him from us so that we couldn't have him ?

[Welsh Spur]

He (arnesen) probably couldn't resist the bags of cash they were throwing at him, and yes, it probably was to stop him doing any further recruiting for us, as they are shitting it.

[Chinaman]

Maybe he is the Ruskie's lover.

[Houdini logic]

Haha, they paid Arneson to basically quit football!

I hate Kenyon, he's a knob, he'd probably offer me £120k per week in a 8 year deal if he saw me play, and I suck!

[Gold7]

Maybe he is the Ruskie's lover.


you might be right .its common for people(the russian) who have it all to turn out to be "stoke on trent"

[highlander]

i think his job title and description is something to do with recruiting youth players but that cant be so otherwise why would they have tried to sign 33 year old roberto carlos. everybody knows he just potters about in mourinho's shadow waiting for pay day and the opportunity to actually do something

[mjbmedia]

good riddance to a piece of shit Commollis' better

[choda]

good riddance to a piece of shit Commollis' better

We'll see how good he is now, but he does look at least equally good. It's a different job now, the base of youngsters is already there, and it looks like he and Jol have done great business in bringing in Zokora, Ekotto and Berb.

I think Arnesan did a great job when he was here, but he was lured for money. He sold his soul. He had one of the most exciting director of football jobs in Europe, because we were building an academy and he's not going to see the fruits of it. Surely the job satisfaction would be in starting that and seeing it through to what it can become.

**** em and his shite youth team job. Nobody's seen dick of him since. He had a great job here, he was technical director of a big club.

[Chinaman]

Arnesen never did real good for us. Look at the youngsters he brought. None of them have really made it except Ziegler, who is still on the fringe.

[spurs61]

I don't actually see what Arnesen did in his short time at Spurs. Virtually all the players he brough to the club have either left or a languishing in the reserves.

[Welsh Spur]

Yeah, was thinking about that earlier, Comolli's signings look far better prospects than any of Arnesen's, however weren't a lot of the current first teamers bought while Arnesen was here, like Carrick, for example?

[spurs61]

Arnsen played no part in signing any of the English players, although to be fiar he did identify Lennon as an outstanding prospect. Carrick was Jol's signing, Jenas was signed by Levy as was Defoe.

[Welsh Spur]

I'm not going to argue with you, you're usually bang on with your facts...

[Chinaman]

We already had our eyes on Lennon before he came,I believe.

[spurs61]

True, but then so did every other club. I'm just giving Arnesen the benefit of the doubt, he must have earned his money for something?!

[choda]

Arneson brought in Robbo, Dawson, Stalteri (who did well as a progression), Tainio, Mido, Ziegler, Carrick (who was in the reserves for Santini), Huddlestone and I heard him mention Lennon before he left. He brought in or sourced all of these players. He also brought in Jol and then appointed him as manager. Jol said that a lot of the signings he made last summer after Arneson left were things they had sourced together. At least I think I'm correct in saying this.

Sure, a lot of the players didn't work out, but that was the plan, buy loads of young guys cheap showing potential and see who makes it.

And a lot the guys we let go, other clubs were only too eager to take, and a lot of them helped our evolution at the time. It's just that they didn't make it into our team and subs now which is now a top side. This is the same thing that they do in Holland and in some ways at Arsenal.

I think he seriously helped us to build the team and squad we have now. In my opinion he has a great knowledge of players and he's well connected, he's been at it for years. But I think Comelli looks even better maybe.

[highlander]

yep, your bang on there choda

[spurs61]

You are correct to say that Arnesen brought in Zeigler and Tainio and probably Mido as well (although he was being tounted around for months). The rest were identified by the coaching staff (Clive Allen, Chris Hughton, BMJ etc) and the board, Arnesen was then charged with concluding the deals, the vast majority of the deals were concluded by Mr Levy though.

Arnesen's true role was identifying young starlets who the club could purchase for fairly small outlays and for maximum returns. This was the role he condudcted so successfully at PSV were he introduced players like Ronaldo, Romario and Gudjonsson and then sold them for huge profits after a few years in the PSV first team.

[JJ]

He did do a job for us, a very good one, but that's a role that just isn't needed at Chelsea. They're not looking to unearth tomorrow's talent, they're buying stars so it can only be for the money.

[choda]

You are correct to say that Arnesen brought in Zeigler and Tainio and probably Mido as well (although he was being tounted around for months). The rest were identified by the coaching staff (Clive Allen, Chris Hughton, BMJ etc) and the board, Arnesen was then charged with concluding the deals, the vast majority of the deals were concluded by Mr Levy though.

Arnesen's true role was identifying young starlets who the club could purchase for fairly small outlays and for maximum returns. This was the role he condudcted so successfully at PSV were he introduced players like Ronaldo, Romario and Gudjonsson and then sold them for huge profits after a few years in the PSV first team.

I just mean that it was his perogative, as he was the technical director at the time, and it's him and the manager who make the final decisions. All clubs have their scouting system or many people involved in the process, but it's about the final decisions. It would make sense that a lot of the players were identified by the British people, but that's just scouting. He and the managers (Santini and then Jol) made the final decisions. They always said decisions were worked out between the manager and Arnesen. Identifying players is another matter, surely we've scouting all over the place who alert the decision makers.

I mean what kind of club would it be if their were a number of people making the transfer decisions.

I know he's a prick for leaving, but I think you're being unfair. Not that it matters now anyway, Comelli looks to be a better man for the job.

[mjbmedia]

I know he's a prick for leaving, but I think you're being unfair. Not that it matters now anyway, Comelli looks to be a better man for the job.
**** him ,so what if its unfair hes a ****, the way he left was amateureshness in the extreme hence why hes settled in at the Chelscum so well

[Danishspurs]

**** him ,so what if its unfair hes a ****, the way he left was amateureshness in the extreme hence why hes settled in at the Chelscum so well
I was extremely angry too, when he left, but you gotta admit that he was one of the most important people in starting our revolution in the way we bought players and changed the club...

[Welsh Spur]

I was extremely angry too, when he left, but you gotta admit that he was one of the most important people in starting our revolution in the way we bought players and changed the club...
That counts for nothing when he screwed us over. It counts for **** all. I hate cowards like Arnesen. Afraid of a ****ing challenge. He belongs at Chelsea with all the other money-grabbing dossers, collecting medals like they're football stickers, even though they do **** all except make a few sub appearances and gain their medals off the backs off a select few like Terry, Lampard, Cech and Joey Cole....

[choda]

That counts for nothing when he screwed us over. It counts for **** all. I hate cowards like Arnesen. Afraid of a ****ing challenge. He belongs at Chelsea with all the other money-grabbing dossers, collecting medals like they're football stickers, even though they do **** all except make a few sub appearances and gain their medals off the backs off a select few like Terry, Lampard, Cech and Joey Cole....

I think we all agree he's a souless ****** who left for money and a rubbish job. I think we established that already. But we are just talking rationally about whether he actually did a good job when he was here or not. There's no point in saying it counts for nothing when it actually counted for a lot.

[mjbmedia]

I think we all agree he's a souless ****** who left for money and a rubbish job. I think we established that already. But we are just talking rationally about whether he actually did a good job when he was here or not. There's no point in saying it counts for nothing when it actually counted for a lot.
no your the one whose talking rationally, most of us are letting off steam . Sol Campbell did a good job when he was here too ............

[JJ]

no your the one whose talking rationally, most of us are letting off steam . Sol Campbell did a good job when he was here too ............

Arnesen was at us for less than a year then left for money to a club who are pretty much a joke, Campbell was a Spurs hero and went to our fiercest rivals.

The comparison doesn't quite work..

[choda]

Arnesen was at us for less than a year then left for money to a club who are pretty much a joke, Campbell was a Spurs hero and went to our fiercest rivals.

The comparison doesn't quite work..

That's exactly what I was going to say.

[JJ]

I think the Arnesen thing is blown out of proportion really. I mean, yeah, it was a prickish thing to do, especially in the manner that he did it. But it's not like he was a Spurs legend or ever had any allegiance to Spurs. We got our moneys worth out of him while he was here though, as generally the signings while he was around where spot on.

[choda]

I think the Arnesen thing is blown out of proportion really. I mean, yeah, it was a prickish thing to do, especially in the manner that he did it. But it's not like he was a Spurs legend or ever had any allegiance to Spurs. We got our moneys worth out of him while he was here though, as generally the signings while he was around where spot on.

Good points JJ. That's the way I see it too.

[JJ]

Good points JJ. That's the way I see it too.

I just can't feel betrayed by someone who never really had any connection to Spurs apart from being an employee.

[Welsh Spur]

I can't say I felt betrayed, just felt that he was a ****ing sell-out, a coward, I don't really care now, at the time I thought he was a bit of a shit but ****, we're doing better now than we were when he was here.....

Now we've got Mr Comolli all I can say is.......Frank who?

[JuicE]

Yeah Welshy, Couldn't agree more. He has showed his true colours and we are better off without the tosser! I must admit i can't really see why Chelscum wanted him. They only ever buy big names and has he actually played any role in it? With us he was scouting young and up and coming talent but Chelscum have only been buying the already have dones!

[Welsh Spur]

Yeah I know, it really baffled me as to why they needed him, but then I realised, they just wanted to take out our scouting source, as he was so good. They do the same with everything, just employ people so no-one else can have them. it's as simple as that.

Arnesen was obviously going to go, who in their right mind would turn down the wads of cash that Abramovich is so happy to throw at people?!?!

[choda]

Yeah I know, it really baffled me as to why they needed him, but then I realised, they just wanted to take out our scouting source, as he was so good. They do the same with everything, just employ people so no-one else can have them. it's as simple as that.

Arnesen was obviously going to go, who in their right mind would turn down the wads of cash that Abramovich is so happy to throw at people?!?!

Could well have been why they went after him, but they probably want to build the best academy now aswell.

Personally I wouldn't have gone, I'm a great believer in job satisfaction and following you're enthusiasm. You'll work hard naturally and the moula will follow. He had a great exciting job with us.

Luckily we managed to get Commelli, who looks to be a wizard at the job, so **** em and it doesn't matter to us now anyway.

[JJ]

I wouldn't be surprised if they got him for the same reason they buy everyone else. So no-one else can have them.