Corluka or Hutton

[crisyj]

corluka for me much more of a steady eddy- he dont overlap too much which leaves lennon with a lot of space to do his work in - hes cooler on the ball and always looks to pass it to feet - who do you think?

[Chathamspur]

Corluka

Hutton is a fan of the old peruvian stuff (not judging, I like it when the weather gets snowy) who will eventually get busted and bring media scandal to the club which we just dont need.

[newport]

Corluka for me I think he is our best option, him and Lennon link up well.

Chats how you doing fella.

[thebrute]

hutton, every day of the week.

corluka's a clumbsy ****, i ain't a fan at all

[JonnieJones]

Corluka. Had a good season.

[hastingsyid]

corluka all day long

[Keanoldinho]

Corluka is quality

him and Lennon compliment each other very well down the right

[Spur]

Made a poll.

[highlander]

hutton, every day of the week.

corluka's a clumbsy ****, i ain't a fan at all


i dont know who you've been watching all season, he is anything but clumsy

[Chathamspur]

Corluka for me I think he is our best option, him and Lennon link up well.

Chats how you doing fella.

Yeah mate Im sweet as a nut, been doing loadsa fishing and that and just enjoying the sunshine really.

Hope all good your end mate.

[northernyid]

not overly sure bout either of them. but after huttons game against the arseholes will have to say corluka:sad: even though i dont think he has the concentration needed to be really good.

[gusintheuk2]

Early in a game Corluka.......has great awareness and ability in all manner of tricky defensive situations.

Unless he is targeted by the oppo manager and given someone with pace and agility to deal with, then his lack of pace is a problem. Vaguely remember Rooney having a whale of a time with him ...and corluka was subbed.

Late in a game.... Hutton..... as a supersub......decent as fresh legs and always causes headaches for tired defences.

Out of the two overall .....I would say Corluka.

[Spur]

Hutton has been trash since he came back from injury.

Ok, I realise he's just come back from bad injury - I get it. And before that he was a good player - but he ain't no Charlie. Never was and presumably never will be.

Still expect him to be sold, although I'd be happy for him to stay and fight for his place and prove me wrong.

Plus, Charlie may be seen inside more next year, especially if the Dawson rumour has any legs.

[choda]

People seem to forget how good Hutton was imo. He was rushed back to early last year when he was injured. I've never seen him slow and he was very slow very rusty versus the Arse. I would NOT judge him on those few games.

Hutton for me because he is a naturally excellent right back that will cover the spaces that you get out wide. Corluka is only good there because he is very talented, reads the game and is very good on the ball. But he can get butchered for pace and he's doesn't get up and down like a really effective full back to support attacks and cover defensive spaces on the counter.

Hutton for me, definitely.

[KevSpur]

Corluca had a pretty good season .
Hutton has been a major let down.
And he never wanted to come in the first place.

[gazzaG8]

Gone for Corluka. I remember someone on here saying he was a defensive Berbatov, which i thought summed him up.

[Indianspur]

They are equally as good in different ways!!

however with lots of games coming up in cups etc we will see the benefits of playing them to suit our tactics. Corluka is exceptional at ball retention and hutton was a very good direct threat.

I prefer corluka at RB personally, as his passings possibly better but both are defo top 4 quality so need to be retained!

(he is also the solution to dm if palacios is injured but wont happen with harry incharge me thinks!)

[Spur]

Gone for Corluka. I remember someone on here saying he was a defensive Berbatov, which i thought summed him up.

Try and find out who that was.

I'd like to take credit if I can!

[Rojoknapp]

The 3 votes for Hutton are insults to Corluka :thumbdown: Charlie is just so much better, ridiculously composed, one of the best players in our squad. Hutton has been wildly overrated by some Spurs fans - since his injury he's turned into the ex-girlfirend that wasn't all that great at the time, but once she's gone you have a mental image of her in your mind that makes her look like Angelina Jolie.

[JuicE]

I don't rate Hutton............yet!

Maybe he can persuade me otherwise next season.

Corluka's better but still lazy at times IMO.

[choda]

The 3 votes for Hutton are insults to Corluka :thumbdown: Charlie is just so much better, ridiculously composed, one of the best players in our squad. Hutton has been wildly overrated by some Spurs fans - since his injury he's turned into the ex-girlfirend that wasn't all that great at the time, but once she's gone you have a mental image of her in your mind that makes her look like Angelina Jolie.

No, I just thought he was pure class first season and a natural right back which Corluka imo for all his ability isn't.

Corluka is a football to be purred over, but he as I'm concerned he ain't a right back. And I believe when he plays central midfield and centre back, gets some experience in those positions and he will be utterly majestic and world class.

Here's how I see it he's not a world class full back, he's just good and often very good because he's able to cover over the problems he has with the positon with the fact that he's one hell of a footballer who has great class, reads the game like a book and is very calm and classy on the ball.

But for me a full back that I am comfortable with can match players for agility and pace, can close the spaces that develop out wide quickly and can bomb up and down so as to support attacks and give defenders more to think about while also being able to handle pacey counters.

Hutton has all of this, a mean tackle, a very good cross and is positionally very sound. He's a consumate and natural right back in my eyes.

I'm not really comfortable with Corluka at right back for all his talent.

I suggest moving Corluka to where I believe his talents are far better served because last year he was terrific, unreal actually and yet he wasn't truly considered for player of the year or in the prem team of the year or again really considered. That's not right for me and it was because he is always shovelling shit against the wind at right back imo.

[Keanoldinho]

Corluka is a far better fullback than he is centerback I've never really been impressed with him in the middle. I'd love to see him in midfield though because of his technical ability and eye for a pass plus he likes to release the ball early which helps Lennon thrive down the right.

Charlie is still relatively young though so does have the odd off day and some people love talking about how he gets done for pace specifically how Ashley Young got at him early on in the season when we were shit but what about how he came on against Villa at half time for Zokora who Young had ripped to shit first half and Charlie shut him the feck down and we went on to win 2-1 at the end of the season.

Also the influence Charlie has had on the vast improvement to Lennon should not be over looked I doubt Hutton and Lennon could form anywhere near as good a partnership. I rate Hutton but as yet he has a whole lot to prove and his injury record is rather worring especially if the metal pins in his leg keep giving him problems.

For me Charlie is one of the best RB in the league I can't think of anyone I'd take over him. I don't rate Bosingwa or Sagna higher or Johnson for that matter.

[Hertspur]

Hutton is a good player but a serious coke head, off to rangers ive heard. only played again for us cos we needed him. i hope he gets sorted out and can stay thou

[Keanoldinho]

Hutton is a good player but a serious coke head, off to rangers ive heard. only played again for us cos we needed him. i hope he gets sorted out and can stay thou



:lol: you've got to be fecking kidding me

if Hutton was a cokehead the club could take him to the cleaners legally for evey penny they've ever paid him and for the transfer fee we paid and if he was why would Rangers want him back or anyone for that matter

[choda]

Corluka is a far better fullback than he is centerback I've never really been impressed with him in the middle. I'd love to see him in midfield though because of his technical ability and eye for a pass plus he likes to release the ball early which helps Lennon thrive down the right.

Charlie is still relatively young though so does have the odd off day and some people love talking about how he gets done for pace specifically how Ashley Young got at him early on in the season when we were shit but what about how he came on against Villa at half time for Zokora who Young had ripped to shit first half and Charlie shut him the feck down and we went on to win 2-1 at the end of the season.

Also the influence Charlie has had on the vast improvement to Lennon should not be over looked I doubt Hutton and Lennon could form anywhere near as good a partnership. I rate Hutton but as yet he has a whole lot to prove and his injury record is rather worring especially if the metal pins in his leg keep giving him problems.

For me Charlie is one of the best RB in the league I can't think of anyone I'd take over him. I don't rate Bosingwa or Sagna higher or Johnson for that matter.

I'm not talking about one or two games, I'm talking about generally and many instances, even though he is still good. I don't think he has anything to do with Lennon's good form to be honest. Lennon himself was just excellent for me.

I'd rate Bosingwa, Sagna, Johnson and Hutton at his best as different class at right back.

If Hutton is a coke head it might explain the way he played when he came back and how unfit he was. However the second comeback he looked something like his old self again.

If he's clean then they must keep him imo.

And move Corluka to the centre of midfield and watch him flourish. He's probably exactly what we need in there as well. Then imo the tributes will be Modric like and universal.

Right now I think it is based on his clearly huge ability as opposed to how good a right back he is. I feel he is very wasted there AND we could have a better pacey full back.

I see it a bit like when Ledley played dm for England. Oh what a sensational player that boy is, but he ain't a dm, though he is still good there because he's so fricking good.

From January onwards when Ekotto became a top full back I'd go so far as to say he was better as a full back than Corluka because he shuts down space quick, was zooming up on the overlap and covering counters very well.

[gomessi]

I cant say anything choda hasnt already said.

Also I would like to know what is the exact crime he is supposed to have commited. If he's done something wrong why hasnt he been charged or discplined by the club or are we trying to keep it quiet. If we are trying to keep it quiet we arent doing a very good job because I've heard it from lots of fans tell me about huttons off field problems (nothing detailed just he has some problemss).

We might also want to be a bit more considered just in case it was libellous for the board.

[JuicE]

I'd actually like to see evidence that he's a good player. Nothing has convinced me yet and i don't know where anyone else has got their evidence from.

He's hardly played for us! When he has I've seen nothing to impress me. No skill going forward either.

[gomessi]

I'd actually like to see evidence that he's a good player. Nothing has convinced me yet and i don't know where anyone else has got their evidence from.

He's hardly played for us! When he has I've seen nothing to impress me. No skill going forward either.

I'll be delighted to give you some "evidence":001_smile:


Tottenham 1-1 Man u
"The late goal was desperately harsh on Tottenham, who had produced a defensive display the like of which White Hart Lane regulars will not have seen for years.

Michael Dawson and debutant Alan Hutton in particular were imperious and United rarely looked like getting anything out of the game."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7210611.stm

Sunday, 24 February 2008
Tottenham 2-1 Chelsea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7256729.stm

So MOTM first match (gainst ronaldo who is alright), third match he was part of a formidable defence that kept chelsea at bay and at the same time proved to be excellent going forward.

In the other epl games he took part in the 07-08 season he was excellent and different class when you compare him to the other lazy ******s who were going through the motions (not including keane who was good)

In the 4 gaames he played in towards the season (Newcastle h, everton a, city h, and lpool a) we kept 2 clean sheets and got 9 points from 4 games.

The only reason we have this rather pathetic knee jerk reaction is because of
apparent drug problems and because of that 1 game against arse. :thumbdown: (he was UNFIT and up against one of the fastest teams in europe!).

If we're selling him because he has off field problems than I cant argue because I'm not aware of the info but I'd be distraught because we've got a world class right back. *waits for the accusation of overhyping a player*

[Antilokhos]

I absolutely love Corluka, but I think Hutton brings more to the position at RB. I think Corluka needs to be in the team every week, whether that be at CB or DM.

I like Hutton's mobility and threat going forward more. Corluka is able to hide is lack of pace with his knowledge of the game and that would be incredibly beneficial from the middle of the pitch.

I think a 5 man midfield with Lennon and Modric on the wings then Palacios, Corluka, and Jenas inside, played almost as a 4-3-3, would be our best side. Although we'd need to find the right sort of striker to make it work.

[JuicE]

I'll be delighted to give you some "evidence":001_smile:


Tottenham 1-1 Man u
"The late goal was desperately harsh on Tottenham, who had produced a defensive display the like of which White Hart Lane regulars will not have seen for years.

Michael Dawson and debutant Alan Hutton in particular were imperious and United rarely looked like getting anything out of the game."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7210611.stm

Sunday, 24 February 2008
Tottenham 2-1 Chelsea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7256729.stm

So MOTM first match (gainst ronaldo who is alright), third match he was part of a formidable defence that kept chelsea at bay and at the same time proved to be excellent going forward.

In the other epl games he took part in the 07-08 season he was excellent and different class when you compare him to the other lazy ******s who were going through the motions (not including keane who was good)

In the 4 gaames he played in towards the season (Newcastle h, everton a, city h, and lpool a) we kept 2 clean sheets and got 9 points from 4 games.

The only reason we have this rather pathetic knee jerk reaction is because of
apparent drug problems and because of that 1 game against arse. :thumbdown: (he was UNFIT and up against one of the fastest teams in europe!).

If we're selling him because he has off field problems than I cant argue because I'm not aware of the info but I'd be distraught because we've got a world class right back. *waits for the accusation of overhyping a player*

Is that all you got!! FFS that's desperate. 2 games where someone decides he was good. Not conclusive but thanks for the great effort.
What we may need to see, and i'd be delighted (Don't get me wrong) is to actually see him consistently perform well. Fingers crossed he proves me wrong. The last game he played he was sh!t.
Let's see.

[JuicE]

I absolutely love Corluka, but I think Hutton brings more to the position at RB. I think Corluka needs to be in the team every week, whether that be at CB or DM.

I like Hutton's mobility and threat going forward more. Corluka is able to hide is lack of pace with his knowledge of the game and that would be incredibly beneficial from the middle of the pitch.

I think a 5 man midfield with Lennon and Modric on the wings then Palacios, Corluka, and Jenas inside, played almost as a 4-3-3, would be our best side. Although we'd need to find the right sort of striker to make it work.

Are you serious? What threat going forward? He can't get passed anyone any good. He has no attacking talent. Bentley is better going forward! LOL!!!

[thebrute]

hutton does have alot more to offer going forward than corluka. corluka never crosses the ball, instead he plays the through ball to lennon that everyone loves so much, and to be honest thats the only good part of his game is to me. defensively he's a liability. he's too calm at time, for example when he tries to usher the ball out by shielding himself between player and ball, the ball is never going out when he does it and he always losses it in that position (normally at our goal line). his direct passing forward is terrible, always gives the ball away.

whenever hutton played, corluka was at CB. hutton got pulled infield alot because corluka could'nt mark his man (for example torres header last game of season) this happens to corluka alot, he always losses who he's marking. hutton played a awsome cross in the first game back (the second time this season, not the arsenal game) which corluka wouldn't and could not play.

this is why i feel corluka is bullshit and hutton is the better right back

[gomessi]

Is that all you got!! FFS that's desperate. 2 games where someone decides he was good. Not conclusive but thanks for the great effort.
What we may need to see, and i'd be delighted (Don't get me wrong) is to actually see him consistently perform well. Fingers crossed he proves me wrong. The last game he played he was sh!t.
Let's see.

now your just being a WUM but I'll play along. Remember you said he has never had a good game. I think I just showed you thats nonsense.

So do I need to get out the reports for every single match and anaylse his every performance:scared:

He performed to a consistently high standard in his debut prem season. Remember the team as a wole was poor but you couldntsay that about Keane and Hutton.

The last game corluka played he was shit. The last game defoe played he was shit The last game Keane played he was shit.

Classic case of KJR IMO. .

[Spur]

The only reason we have this rather pathetic knee jerk reaction is because of
apparent drug problems and because of that 1 game against arse. :thumbdown: (he was UNFIT and up against one of the fastest teams in europe!).

It's somewhat wrong and devalues your argument when you try to tar us all with the same brush whilst belittling our collective and individual opinion. I'm sure you'll agree.

Offer me Charlie or Hutton and I'm only choosing the Croat.

My own opinion on Hutton has nothing to do with one bad game against Arsenal (although describing it as bad is a bit of an understatement!), nor does it have to do with rumoured drug use or that he beat his father senseless.

It has to do with football, and his performances, and how he fits in the team, and how we do with him, and that Charlie is better, and that Charlie is better, and that Charlie is better. It could even have something to do with him not being as good as Charlie, after Charlie proved himself over the year to be one of our best players. A right-backed version of a Bulgarian Centre-Forward we used to own (as someone - hopefully me - stated previously). Also, Lennon and Charlie's understanding down the right is excellent, they work so well off each other.

He's proved nothing in his short time with us, he's a good player but he needs to back it up. Bentley's a good player, but he couldn't back it up so we all jump on a bandwagon to get rid - wrongly or rightly. What's your opinion on DB?

Offer me Charlie or Hutton and I'm only choosing the Croat.

[TheRealestYiddo]

Corluka is far more solid and more composed.

Huttons crossing ability however is far superior.

A blend of the 2 would be something special.

[Gino Ginelli]

Hutton came across as being a breath of fresh air after Chimbonda's spirited yet misguided attempts at trying to be Pele on the ball. His no nonsense, true brit grit was something that we had been missing. He bombed down that flank with pace, linked well with Lennon and delivered many a telling ball into the box. Defensively he gave everything, could keep pace with all the wingers and timed his tackles well. A proper british full-back. He could walk into any team in the premiership I reckon.

But then he got injured.

And we signed Corluka.

Who turned out to be ace, but in a different way.

Whereas Hutton was effective with his impressive effort and running, Corulka simply "reads" where the ball is going to be, and where a player is going to run to. His positional sense is excellent. Hutton would leg it across to cut out a pass or tackle a player. Corluka would predict it and already be there, waiting calmly to go "yoink!" Add to that his excellent touch and control and composure he's just a superior footballer in every way except pace.

And as such that's why I would play Corluka ahead of Hutton.

[Spur]

Hutton came across as being a breath of fresh air after Chimbonda's spirited yet misguided attempts at trying to be Pele on the ball. His no nonsense, true brit grit was something that we had been missing. He bombed down that flank with pace, linked well with Lennon and delivered many a telling ball into the box. Defensively he gave everything, could keep pace with all the wingers and timed his tackles well. A proper british full-back. He could walk into any team in the premiership I reckon.

But then he got injured.

And we signed Corluka.

Who turned out to be ace, but in a different way.

Whereas Hutton was effective with his impressive effort and running, Corulka simply "reads" where the ball is going to be, and where a player is going to run to. His positional sense is excellent. Hutton would leg it across to cut out a pass or tackle a player. Corluka would predict it and already be there, waiting calmly to go "yoink!" Add to that his excellent touch and control and composure he's just a superior footballer in every way except pace.

And as such that's why I would play Corluka ahead of Hutton.

Agree.

They are both good players. What do you do though? You can't keep them both happy - or can you? Depends on whether we might see the impossible and Charlie have a game or two in centre mid, failing that then injuries in the middle could perhaps dictate.

[JuicE]

now your just being a WUM but I'll play along. Remember you said he has never had a good game. I think I just showed you thats nonsense.

So do I need to get out the reports for every single match and anaylse his every performance:scared:

He performed to a consistently high standard in his debut prem season. Remember the team as a wole was poor but you couldntsay that about Keane and Hutton.

The last game corluka played he was shit. The last game defoe played he was shit The last game Keane played he was shit.

Classic case of KJR IMO. .

No it's no Wind up! It's my opinion, and as usual you don't like to agree. Like it or lump it i think he's poor. Inconsistent and shit going forward. Show me all the reports in the world, but until i see him play well i will not be convinced.

MY OPINION!!! OK?

However, i really hope he proves me wrong!

[yid4lifemk]

Hutton for me, lots of running on and off the ball,good awareness, and he actually looks proud to wear the shirt

[Spur]

Hutton for me, lots of running on and off the ball,good awareness, and he actually looks proud to wear the shirt

Probably why he was so eager to join...

[Baleinho]

Corluka overall is the better player, but Id rather have Hutton at RB. Hard to explain, but an on form Hutton will setup more goals than Corluka imo.

Hutton charges down the wing like hes imagining Arsene Wengers chasing him with a packet of sweets.

Id like to see Corluka get more of a central role in this season, maybe even try him out as a cm with Palacios? Having two strong tacklers there might be useful. Plus his passing ability cannot be forgotten...

I love contradicting myself.

[JuicE]

Probably why he was so eager to join...

Hahaha!!! :001_smile:

[LifeTimeYido]

I would like to put them in a giant blender and end up with......

Huttluka. I think he would be quite the right back.

http://www.zwatla.com/emo/2007/gros-emoticones-002/169.gif

[USSpurs]

Defo Corluka - I really liked Hutton when we signed him but he's just not been the same playe since he came back. Corluka is a totally different breed - whereas Hutton is strength and "speed" (maybe not so more), Corluka always appears to be slow but he makes up for a natural lack of pace with great guile and positioning

[Benne208]

If both are on top of their game, Then it's Hutton for me. Imo Hutton has more to his game then Corluka, and is a more of a threat going forward. Corluka is a steady full back, who will always give you his best. But Hutton can change a game with his long runs into the oppositions half.

[buzz25]

it is a pretty well known 'fact' that Hutton's injury was nothing of the sort.

Spurs made him 'injured' and took him out of the firing line so he would not be tested. it seemed to have done the job. The guy obviously has major personal issues but on his day he is one of the best right back's in the premier league.

But saying that on his day, Jenas is one of the best players in the league in his position but we only see these days 3 games a season.

Hutton on form, fit and issue free would walk into most sides in the world. If I remember correctly he gave Bridge a torid going over in the Carling Cup final against Chelscum.

You know what you get with Corluka but lets not forget he looked awful for the first 5 games. Against Villa at the Lane it was toss up who could get turned and put on their arse the most, him or Thudd.

I would be interested in seeing Corluka played behind Palacios for a few games to see how it goes. My main concern with Palacios is that his shooting is his weak point.

[philipkb]

No brainer Corluka lot more solid ship slow but fantastic vision and ball control

[olly27]

No contest from the point of view that Corluka has played more. I havn't seen enough of Hutton on a regular enough basis to form a really solid opinion on him. What I do know is that Corluka has been fantastic, at right back and not so much at centre back. We all know his stengths more than compensate for his weaknesses (lack of pace). His reading of the play and positional sense are exceptional. Strong, silky and composed sum him up (sounds familiar doesn't it!)

Hutton is a good player but I am yet to see it in a Spurs shirt. He did whip in a fantastic cross in a game I cant remember towards the end of the season (Man City game?)
I do feel Charlie compliments Lennon really well, a Hutton/Lennon combo may leave us exposed.

[choda]

Is that all you got!! FFS that's desperate. 2 games where someone decides he was good. Not conclusive but thanks for the great effort.
What we may need to see, and i'd be delighted (Don't get me wrong) is to actually see him consistently perform well. Fingers crossed he proves me wrong. The last game he played he was sh!t.
Let's see.

First year at spurs he was terrific, looked every ince a top class full back if not world class. Also rated by Mourinho as the best right back in europe, which were his exact words last summer. He clearly thinks a fit Alan Hutton is world class.

[choda]

Are you serious? What threat going forward? He can't get passed anyone any good. He has no attacking talent. Bentley is better going forward! LOL!!!

He's very good and pacey on the overlap, his fitness first season was superb and he was bombing up and down and is an excellent crosser of the ball.