Bentley in talks with Villa

[Chewy]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2482863/Im-hell-Bent-on-joining-Villa.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Football

[Rojoknapp]

I'll drive him there. :glare:

[gomessi]

Cheerio Bentley. £15m and he's remembered for 3 things.

1) That goal
2) Hitting a skip from the top of a building
3) Swanning around like a lazy ****

Brylcream kid can get lost.

Cant believe I wanted lennon as an impact sub :blushing: :scared:

[Baleinho]

Bentley's a good player, just a shame he never lived up to the hype.

Glad to see him leave, but I kind of get the feeling we will regret it.

[peterc]

Was he really given the chance to settle in?. Playing out of position for quite sometime under Ramos and also under Arry's reign. I wish him luck.

[Baleinho]

tbh, he played most of the time down the right if I remember. Had a horrific match against Burnley and that kind of sealed the deal.

[olly27]

Is there any chance of Young being involved in the deal? ...I am dreaming probably.

[peterc]

tbh, he played most of the time down the right if I remember. Had a horrific match against Burnley and that kind of sealed the deal.

I think that it was more on the left than on the right. :sad:

[Baleinho]

Wouldnt be suprised.

But me thinks Villa would rather have the money.

[Baleinho]

I think that it was more on the left than on the right.:scared: :sad:

was it?

Yeh, he played on the left a few times, but Im sure he was on the right more often than not, seeing as Lennon wasnt getting a game early on (correct me if im wrong)

The game(s) against Burnley he was on the left, but still.. its a championship side. SHOCKING.

[Yido]

perhaps a swap deal with young.
Really dissapointed with bentleys comments he should keep his mouth shut until the deals done.

[Yido]

I think that it was more on the left than on the right. :sad:

When he was on the right he was poor
When he was on the left he was dreadful.

Not sure what difference it makes.

lennon was under pressure and he passed with flying colours!

[Keanoldinho]

Bentely can fook off he's an absolute w@nker

crosses were shit

corners were shit

freekicks were shit

shots were shit

passing was shit

There's no excuse for the level of shitness he showed while here. He got just as good a chance to show improvement as any other player after Ramos left and failed miserably. He's a second rate one season wonder show pony footballer and Milner will probably keep him out the Villa side as he has no backbone. Head down running down blind alleys with no pace absolute joke player and he got plenty of chances on the right and was shit in all of them. The # 1 player I can't wait to see the back of.

[Gino Ginelli]

I'm very very dissapointed with what happened to Bentley. I was probably one of his biggest fans, and was clamouring for us to sign him. I thought he'd be our Beckham, inspire glories, etc etc...

Unfortunately his wonder goal must have given him an air of such arrogance, that such was his lack of effort he finally vanished up his own arse!

Proof that some players will do it one club, but not for another. Sometimes the time, place and set up are perfect for bringing out a players potential. He had that at Blackburn under Hughes. Not so with us.

Shame.

[gomessi]

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/bently-volley-415x275.jpg

[Keanoldinho]

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/bently-volley-415x275.jpg



flukeyiest goal you'll ever see

pure luck a hit and hope job

[Yido]

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/jermain-jenas.jpg

he'll be joining bentley

[gomessi]

someone used to have this in their avatar. Cant believe it turned this bad.

http://grumpyoldfootballers.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/1_bentley.jpg

[peterc]

Bentely can fook off he's an absolute w@nker

crosses were shit

corners were shit

freekicks were shit

shots were shit

passing was shit

There's no excuse for the level of shitness he showed while here. He got just as good a chance to show improvement as any other player after Ramos left and failed miserably. He's a second rate one season wonder show pony footballer and Milner will probably keep him out the Villa side as he has no backbone. Head down running down blind alleys with no pace absolute joke player and he got plenty of chances on the right and was shit in all of them. The # 1 player I can't wait to see the back of.

I take it you never liked the guy. I have this gut feeling that he will come back to haunt us.:scared:

[LifeTimeYido]

Bentely can fook off he's an absolute w@nker

crosses were shit

corners were shit

freekicks were shit

shots were shit

passing was shit

There's no excuse for the level of shitness he showed while here. He got just as good a chance to show improvement as any other player after Ramos left and failed miserably. He's a second rate one season wonder show pony footballer and Milner will probably keep him out the Villa side as he has no backbone. Head down running down blind alleys with no pace absolute joke player and he got plenty of chances on the right and was shit in all of them. The # 1 player I can't wait to see the back of.

Thats a bit harsh......everyone one knows he can hit a skip from a hotel roof

:lol::lol::lol:

[Keanoldinho]

I take it you never liked the guy. I have this gut feeling that he will come back to haunt us.:scared:


He was good at Blackburn the season before we bought him but I don't like him because of his whole persona he comes across an absolute tit and I very much doubt he'll come back to haunt us. I don't think he'll ever have a season like he did at Blackburn before we bought him. If he goes to Villa I doubt he'll displace Milner in the pecking order. One season wonder who thinks he's better than he really is.

[AllRise]

He was the best player at Blackburn, maybe he expected that here. Had a conversation with someone on here the other day about the same sort of thing with Darren Bent, they should be at mid table teams punching above their weight. Villa are turning into a real force so he shouldn't go there, somewhere like Portsmouth or Sunderland would suit him.

O yeh and piss off Bentley!

[peterc]

Just heard on Sky Sports that David Bentley's agent has denied all reports linking David to Aston Villa.

[hastingsyid]

overrated flash cvnt,sooner he goes the better imo

[Shelfside]

He was good at Blackburn the season before we bought him but I don't like him because of his whole persona he comes across an absolute tit and I very much doubt he'll come back to haunt us. I don't think he'll ever have a season like he did at Blackburn before we bought him. If he goes to Villa I doubt he'll displace Milner in the pecking order. One season wonder who thinks he's better than he really is.

Spot on.
At the end of the day if he really is that good or showed so much potential,why did Wenger let him leave Arsenal?.And does anyone think that Wenger regrets that decision?.

[Keanoldinho]

Spot on.
At the end of the day if he really is that good or showed so much potential,why did Wenger let him leave Arsenal?.And does anyone think that Wenger regrets that decision?.


not after the scum got a nice cut of the over inflated fee we paid :cursing:

[gomessi]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1193390/From-Becks-Spurs-flop--rise-fall-Aston-Villa-target-David-Bentley.html
Reading's Stephen Hunt didn't think Bentley deserved to be compared with Goldenballs - or El Diego for that matter.

'David Bentley is David Bentley, he ain't bloody Maradona,' said Hunt. 'He plays for England and hype comes with England.

'People don't go on about Damien Duff and Robbie Keane every day so they need to get a life.'

Who compared bentley to diego!!:scared: I did compare him to beckham:blushing: but I wasnt the ony one...

'He is like a young David Beckham - the vision and the confidence he has is brilliant,' added Wayne Rooney in February 2008.

Wenger

'Bentley scored a great goal. I believe that he has a bit of the characteristics of Bergkamp, who is his idol,':cursing: declared Wenger after Bentley's first senior goal for Arsenal in a 4-1 FA cup win against Middlesbrough in January 2004.

'If you accept it, competition makes you better. If you move down, you're not at the top.'

Looks like Bentley just gives up and doesnt bother to fight for his place.

he could do alright at villa but he's no beckham

[TURKISH]

I rate Bentley very highly and people are just always quick to jump on a players back thinking its easy to just perform like they once did. If Bentley goes to Villa or any other club for that matter he would do very well. I've been watching Bentley since he was at Arsenal the boy has talent and has undoubted technique.

He then went to Norwich which he done well which earned him a move to rovers which he performed CONSISTENTLY till the day he left for us. I agree the fee was poor we should never of payed that sort of cash when he is purely a right winger and when we have Lennon already at the club. One thing has come from all this and thats the performances of Lennon.:001_smile:

Bentleys a player who needs to know he will get a run of games to get his form going, do you think its been easy for any of our new signings to bring there previous club form to us with everything that has happened? Plus he hasn't had a string of games on the right flank and rightly so because Lennon has been triffic. But at least modric played every week unlike bentley.

Bentley is no where near shit just because he struggled to perform for us especially considering the circumstances he has been put under. Has anyone ever played for a new team and first struggled to show just how good you are? But was lucky enough to get a run of games to show what your all about?

Wenger let him go because david didn't believe in waiting around for a chance to play especially considering the players they had at the time. Didn't wenger get rid of diarra? Flamini? And they all did well and so has david.

Ok people may hate the way he portrays himself personally I don't mind him but to say he is a one season wonder is rubbish. David is young and makes mistakes but people are so quick to judge a player, all he ever wanted to do was to play well for us.

We as a team only started playing well after we beat Hull and how many games was David given?

I can see it now we sell bentley to another club he does well, next season Lennon is sold to united and we won't have any right wingers at all.

[Gino Ginelli]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1193390/From-Becks-Spurs-flop--rise-fall-Aston-Villa-target-David-Bentley.html
Reading's Stephen Hunt didn't think Bentley deserved to be compared with Goldenballs - or El Diego for that matter.

'David Bentley is David Bentley, he ain't bloody Maradona,' said Hunt. 'He plays for England and hype comes with England.

'People don't go on about Damien Duff and Robbie Keane every day so they need to get a life.'

Who compared bentley to diego!!:scared: I did compare him to beckham:blushing: but I wasnt the ony one...

'He is like a young David Beckham - the vision and the confidence he has is brilliant,' added Wayne Rooney in February 2008.

Wenger

'Bentley scored a great goal. I believe that he has a bit of the characteristics of Bergkamp, who is his idol,':cursing: declared Wenger after Bentley's first senior goal for Arsenal in a 4-1 FA cup win against Middlesbrough in January 2004.

'If you accept it, competition makes you better. If you move down, you're not at the top.'

Looks like Bentley just gives up and doesnt bother to fight for his place.

he could do alright at villa but he's no beckham

Wow, Stephen Hunt. What a paragon of footballing prestige he is. Must be true...

[gomessi]

Wow, Stephen Hunt. What a paragon of footballing prestige he is. Must be true...

and Wenger was miles out with the bergkamp prediction

"I believe that he has a bit of the characteristics of Bergkamp"

nothing like Bergkamp IMO.

[Gino Ginelli]

and Wenger was miles out with the bergkamp prediction

"I believe that he has a bit of the characteristics of Bergkamp"

nothing like Bergkamp IMO.

Dear god no. Bergkamp (despite being a gooner) was a player I really idolised; outstanding touch, control and finishing. I still watch his goal against Newcastle and wonder how the hell he did it!!

Bentley is a traditional English right sided midfielder, very much in the Beckham mould. I hope his time here doesn't destroy his development as a player, as he was excellent before he came here, and can be again. God knows what went wrong here, but it was probably the wrong signing.

[TURKISH]

and Wenger was miles out with the bergkamp prediction

"I believe that he has a bit of the characteristics of Bergkamp"

nothing like Bergkamp IMO.

Wenger coached Bergkamp for years and has also coached bentley since he was a young lad. He is not saying he plays like him but wenger see's similiar traits in them. Only wenger will know what he is on about after all we are only regular joe's on computers we aren't world class respected coaches.

[Gino Ginelli]

Wenger coached Bergkamp for years and has also coached bentley since he was a young lad. He is not saying he plays like him but wenger see's similiar traits in them. Only wenger will know what he is on about after all we are only regular joe's on computers we aren't world class respected coaches.

I think he was getting at that Bergkamp was something of a hero for Bentley, and that his goal against them was probablt inspired by Bergkamps many spectacular goals.

[gomessi]

Wenger coached Bergkamp for years and has also coached bentley since he was a young lad. He is not saying he plays like him but wenger see's similiar traits in them. Only wenger will know what he is on about after all we are only regular joe's on computers we aren't world class respected coaches.

cant argue with that but I'm still entitled to express my opinion on a prediction.

[Rojoknapp]

Dear god no. Bergkamp (despite being a gooner) was a player I really idolised; outstanding touch, control and finishing. I still watch his goal against Newcastle and wonder how the hell he did it!!

Bentley is a traditional English right sided midfielder, very much in the Beckham mould. I hope his time here doesn't destroy his development as a player, as he was excellent before he came here, and can be again. God knows what went wrong here, but it was probably the wrong signing.

I's sure he wonders the same thing... it was toal accident :glare: He was trying to drag the ball on his right foot and turn onto his left foot, but the ball got away and fortuitously span back to him.

[Gino Ginelli]

I's sure he wonders the same thing... it was toal accident :glare: He was trying to drag the ball on his right foot and turn onto his left foot, but the ball got away and fortuitously span back to him.

Visualising it, he controls it with his left instep and knocks it past the defender (Peacock?) in one touch, spins left then the ball has somehow curved back into his path. Amazing!

[Gino Ginelli]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DNfgibZO5o

[TURKISH]

cant argue with that but I'm still entitled to express my opinion on a prediction.

Never said you wasn't.:001_rolleyes:

[TURKISH]

I's sure he wonders the same thing... it was toal accident :glare: He was trying to drag the ball on his right foot and turn onto his left foot, but the ball got away and fortuitously span back to him.

It was ment imo, if he didn't mean it he wouldn't of turned round expecting the ball. Plus Ian Wright and many others have claimed he does things like that in training all the time.

I honestly can't see how people think its an accident look at his movement, as soon as he touches the ball he spins round the defender to collect the ball.

Look at his goal against argentina in the world cup the guy is capable of scoring wonder goals like that.

[Gino Ginelli]

It was ment imo, if he didn't mean it he wouldn't of turned round expecting the ball. Plus Ian Wright and many others have claimed he does things like that in training all the time.

I honestly can't see how people think its an accident look at his movement, as soon as he touches the ball he spins round the defender to collect the ball.

Look at his goal against argentina in the world cup the guy is capable of scoring wonder goals like that.

He scored a hat-trick of those against Ipswich that same year! :drool:

(Can't believe I'm drooling over a Gooner *hangs head in shame*)

[gomessi]

ah for ****s sake gg really does idolise him.:scared: :thumbdown: An arsenal player no an arsenal legend.

Took me a few weeks to get over arshavin but I had an excuse (we should have got him!).

[TURKISH]

He scored a hat-trick of those against Ipswich that same year! :drool:

(Can't believe I'm drooling over a Gooner *hangs head in shame*)

Sad thing is we was offered him but turned him down because we brought Chris Armstrong apparently. Plus he was a spurs fan but not anymore.:001_rolleyes:

[MiloMinderbinder]

ah for ****s sake gg really does idolise him.:scared: :thumbdown: An arsenal player no an arsenal legend.

Took me a few weeks to get over arshavin but I had an excuse (we should have got him!).

Me too. Bergkamp should have been a Spurs player, would have liked to have been if we'd have got in their first. Ah well.

[TURKISH]

ah for ****s sake gg really does idolise him.:scared: :thumbdown: An arsenal player no an arsenal legend.

Took me a few weeks to get over arshavin but I had an excuse (we should have got him!).

Then carried on once he scored 4 goals.:001_rolleyes:

[Rojoknapp]

It was ment imo, if he didn't mean it he wouldn't of turned round expecting the ball. Plus Ian Wright and many others have claimed he does things like that in training all the time.

I honestly can't see how people think its an accident look at his movement, as soon as he touches the ball he spins round the defender to collect the ball.

Look at his goal against argentina in the world cup the guy is capable of scoring wonder goals like that.

He turned because he saw where the ball went. It didn't make any sense to try and go the way he did, it would have been so much easier, simpler and more likely to work if he'd just dragged it with his left foot, and it would have put him straight on to his right foot.

[gomessi]

Then carried on once he scored 4 goals.:001_rolleyes:

the feeling returned :crying:

[TURKISH]

He turned because he saw where the ball went. It didn't make any sense to try and go the way he did, it would have been so much easier, simpler and more likely to work if he'd just dragged it with his left foot, and it would have put him straight on to his right foot.

Why spin round to get the ball unless he knew he ment to curl it round him? If it was a bad touch he would never of spun around he would of just ran after it.

I can't see how he went from a drag to then knowing he had to spin around the defender to go get the ball.

Top players do things like this.

[Baleinho]

Why spin round to get the ball unless he knew he ment to curl it round him? If it was a bad touch he would never of spun around he would of just ran after it.

I can't see how he went from a drag to then knowing he had to spin around the defender to go get the ball.

Top players do things like this.

Berbatov :crying:

[TURKISH]

Berbatov :crying:

Yep.:crying:

[Gino Ginelli]

Sad thing is we was offered him but turned him down because we brought Chris Armstrong apparently. Plus he was a spurs fan but not anymore.:001_rolleyes:

Balls!!! That's not true is it?! Say it ain't true!! :crying:

[Gino Ginelli]

He turned because he saw where the ball went. It didn't make any sense to try and go the way he did, it would have been so much easier, simpler and more likely to work if he'd just dragged it with his left foot, and it would have put him straight on to his right foot.

Sorry, but he knows exactly what he's doing there. He built a career around doing these things. See Zidane, Le-Tiss and quite rightly Berba.

[Gino Ginelli]

I love how a thread about Bentley turned into a Bergkamp fest. That's how much he means to us now :laugh:

[LifeTimeYido]

Sad thing is we was offered him but turned him down because we brought Chris Armstrong apparently. Plus he was a spurs fan but not anymore.:001_rolleyes:

Crystal Palace offered Wright to Spurs....but El Tel didnt like the look of him and said no, so he was offered to Arsenal.

I have sat with Ian Wright at the Oval prolly 5 years ago ....(in fact it was when blane was in that glass cage).... i hurled abuse at him as he walked past and...he nicked a few beers and we got chatting...... he says it was El Tels fault we didnt sign him.

[Gino Ginelli]

Crystal Palace offered Wright to Spurs....but El Tel didnt like the look of him and said no, so he was offered to Arsenal.

I have sat with Ian Wright at the Oval prolly 5 years ago.... i hurled abuse at him as he walked past and...he nicked a few beers and we got chatting...... he says it was El Tels fault we didnt sign him.

I say we have a really bad history of some really spazzy decisions... :cursing:

[TURKISH]

Balls!!! That's not true is it?! Say it ain't true!! :crying:

Its true we was offered Bergkamp but we said no because we was signing this quality young forward in Chris Armstrong. The rest is history would of been intresting to see Teddy and dennis play togeather.:drool:

[Gino Ginelli]

Its true we was offered Bergkamp but we said no because we was signing this quality young forward in Chris Armstrong. The rest is history would of been intresting to see Teddy and dennis play togeather.:drool:

Drooltastic... and yet, would they have been a bit too similar? It may have allowed Teddy to play more as the out and out striker; not a role he was associated with but could do very very well.

[gomessi]

Isnt it true we almost got zidane but apparently he was to lightweight or was it "wooden legged" seem to remember something like that.

Actually remember zizou once said he almost joined a mid table prem team...

teddy berger
rivaldo zz

:scared:

[earl warwick]

I rate Bentley very highly and people are just always quick to jump on a players back thinking its easy to just perform like they once did. If Bentley goes to Villa or any other club for that matter he would do very well. I've been watching Bentley since he was at Arsenal the boy has talent and has undoubted technique.

He then went to Norwich which he done well which earned him a move to rovers which he performed CONSISTENTLY till the day he left for us. I agree the fee was poor we should never of payed that sort of cash when he is purely a right winger and when we have Lennon already at the club. One thing has come from all this and thats the performances of Lennon.:001_smile:

Bentleys a player who needs to know he will get a run of games to get his form going, do you think its been easy for any of our new signings to bring there previous club form to us with everything that has happened? Plus he hasn't had a string of games on the right flank and rightly so because Lennon has been triffic. But at least modric played every week unlike bentley.

Bentley is no where near shit just because he struggled to perform for us especially considering the circumstances he has been put under. Has anyone ever played for a new team and first struggled to show just how good you are? But was lucky enough to get a run of games to show what your all about?

Wenger let him go because david didn't believe in waiting around for a chance to play especially considering the players they had at the time. Didn't wenger get rid of diarra? Flamini? And they all did well and so has david.

Ok people may hate the way he portrays himself personally I don't mind him but to say he is a one season wonder is rubbish. David is young and makes mistakes but people are so quick to judge a player, all he ever wanted to do was to play well for us.

We as a team only started playing well after we beat Hull and how many games was David given?

I can see it now we sell bentley to another club he does well, next season Lennon is sold to united and we won't have any right wingers at all.

Excellent post, perfectly summing up the situation.

[Gino Ginelli]

Isnt it true we almost got zidane but apparently he was to lightweight or was it "wooden legged" seem to remember something like that.

Actually remember zizou once said he almost joined a mid table prem team...

teddy berger
rivaldo zz

:scared:

Patrick Berger?!?!?! WTF??? :scared:

[TURKISH]

Excellent post, perfectly summing up the situation.

Finally it took over 9000 posts to finally talk abit of sense.:scared:

[Keanoldinho]

I rate Bentley very highly and people are just always quick to jump on a players back thinking its easy to just perform like they once did. If Bentley goes to Villa or any other club for that matter he would do very well. I've been watching Bentley since he was at Arsenal the boy has talent and has undoubted technique.

He then went to Norwich which he done well which earned him a move to rovers which he performed CONSISTENTLY till the day he left for us. I agree the fee was poor we should never of payed that sort of cash when he is purely a right winger and when we have Lennon already at the club. One thing has come from all this and thats the performances of Lennon.:001_smile:

Bentleys a player who needs to know he will get a run of games to get his form going, do you think its been easy for any of our new signings to bring there previous club form to us with everything that has happened? Plus he hasn't had a string of games on the right flank and rightly so because Lennon has been triffic. But at least modric played every week unlike bentley.

Bentley is no where near shit just because he struggled to perform for us especially considering the circumstances he has been put under. Has anyone ever played for a new team and first struggled to show just how good you are? But was lucky enough to get a run of games to show what your all about?

Wenger let him go because david didn't believe in waiting around for a chance to play especially considering the players they had at the time. Didn't wenger get rid of diarra? Flamini? And they all did well and so has david.

Ok people may hate the way he portrays himself personally I don't mind him but to say he is a one season wonder is rubbish. David is young and makes mistakes but people are so quick to judge a player, all he ever wanted to do was to play well for us.

We as a team only started playing well after we beat Hull and how many games was David given?

I can see it now we sell bentley to another club he does well, next season Lennon is sold to united and we won't have any right wingers at all.


not really when to date he's only had one really good season and the rest average/shit/backup ones

[TURKISH]

not really when to date he's only had one really good season and the rest average/shit/backup ones

No proof in that at all especially when I've been watching him since he has been at Norwich and done very well. First game for rovers was against united..what happened? Hattrick.

He helped rovers finish 6th in the league and qualify for europe in 2005/2006 season which earned him a permanent move to rovers in the summer. Bentley then ended the 2006-2007 season with 7 goals and 13 assist, he was linked with a move to united that season and was widely regarded as one of the best young footballers in the country. He was voted Rovers fans player of the season.

Bentley recorded similar statistics in the following campaign, scoring eight goals and providing 13 assists. Blackburn finished seventh in the Premier League which ensured that he played in a series of post-season friendlies for England.

Hardly a one season wonderer?:001_rolleyes:

[Keanoldinho]

No proof in that at all especially when I've been watching him since he has been at Norwich and done very well. First game for rovers was against united..what happened? Hattrick.

He helped rovers finish 6th in the league and qualify for europe in 2005/2006 season which earned him a permanent move to rovers in the summer. Bentley then ended the 2006-2007 season with 7 goals and 13 assist, he was linked with a move to united that season and was widely regarded as one of the best young footballers in the country. He was voted Rovers fans player of the season.

Bentley recorded similar statistics in the following campaign, scoring eight goals and providing 13 assists. Blackburn finished seventh in the Premier League which ensured that he played in a series of post-season friendlies for England.

Hardly a one season wonderer?:001_rolleyes:


okay okay okay he's still a w@nker :001_tt2:

just tell me one thing wtf happened to his set-pieces and freekicks they were shocking all season long there's no explanation for them going south so quick.

[TURKISH]

David Bentley's mate on Glory Glory (Mams) has said that the Sun interview in which Bentley said he was currently in talks with Aston Villa, was completely made up.


QUOTE
Just to let you lot know that the interview that dave had in the sun yesterday did NOT even happen. The quotes were so stupid and he could not believe that they had printed them.
This is a prime example of a paper making total bullshit up to make a player look bad. The "having a beer" quote was the worst, he would never say that.
I dident think papers print total crap with quotes from players
How wrong i was

[Keanoldinho]

David Bentley's mate on Glory Glory (Mams) has said that the Sun interview in which Bentley said he was currently in talks with Aston Villa, was completely made up.


QUOTE
Just to let you lot know that the interview that dave had in the sun yesterday did NOT even happen. The quotes were so stupid and he could not believe that they had printed them.
This is a prime example of a paper making total bullshit up to make a player look bad. The "having a beer" quote was the worst, he would never say that.
I dident think papers print total crap with quotes from players
How wrong i was


greaat :sad:

[TURKISH]

greaat :sad:

I can still see him ending up there.

[Keanoldinho]

I can still see him ending up there.



I just want rid of him I could care less were he goes

He was a disgrace this season

[gomessi]

Patrick Berger?!?!?! WTF??? :scared:

No Dennis Nicolaas Maria Bergkamp :sneaky2:

hope your happy. An arsenal player an an idol is just wrong and dont mention arshavin because he is no where near an idol now.

[gomessi]

No proof in that at all especially when I've been watching him since he has been at Norwich and done very well. First game for rovers was against united..what happened? Hattrick.

He helped rovers finish 6th in the league and qualify for europe in 2005/2006 season which earned him a permanent move to rovers in the summer. Bentley then ended the 2006-2007 season with 7 goals and 13 assist, he was linked with a move to united that season and was widely regarded as one of the best young footballers in the country. He was voted Rovers fans player of the season.

Bentley recorded similar statistics in the following campaign, scoring eight goals and providing 13 assists. Blackburn finished seventh in the Premier League which ensured that he played in a series of post-season friendlies for England.

Hardly a one season wonderer?:001_rolleyes:

stats only mean so much. rory delap has 8 assists last season. Matt Taylor scored 10 goals lets get him to replace modric (suggested by yido:scared: )

I've watched bentley a lot and IMO he has only had one excellent season.

I've probably seen bburn 6-8 times a season when bentley was there so maybe not a much as you.

you rate JJ highly, used to rate zok and rate bentley others have a different opinion thats all.

So a 1 season wonder so far.

[Gino Ginelli]

No Dennis Nicolaas Maria Bergkamp :sneaky2:

hope your happy. An arsenal player an an idol is just wrong and dont mention arshavin because he is no where near an idol now.

It's called a joke... laugh :001_rolleyes:

Bergkamp was class at Inter and for Holland before his move to Arsenal. Don't you just hate it when a favourite moves to a rival... eh Sol? :angry:

[Gino Ginelli]

stats only mean so much. rory delap has 8 assists last season. Matt Taylor scored 10 goals lets get him to replace modric (suggested by yido:scared: )

I've watched bentley a lot and IMO he has only had one excellent season.

I've probably seen bburn 6-8 times a season when bentley was there so maybe not a much as you.

you rate JJ highly, used to rate zok and rate bentley others have a different opinion thats all.

So a 1 season wonder so far.

Matt Taylor is good. I wanted us to get him 2 seasons back.

[gomessi]

It's called a joke... laugh :001_rolleyes:

Bergkamp was class at Inter and for Holland before his move to Arsenal. Don't you just hate it when a favourite moves to a rival... eh Sol? :angry:

shouldnt you be idolisong sol. i mean berger was basically a spurs player like arshavin. campbell was a spurs player yet you still love berger and hate campbell doesnt make any sense.














I'll get my coat that was only joking about the ****ball bit.

[Gino Ginelli]

:cursing: shouldnt you be idolisong sol. i mean berger was basically a spurs player like arshavin. campbell was a spurs player yet you still love berger and hate campbell doesnt make any sense.













I'll get my coat that was only joking about the ****ball bit.

Stop saying Berger! That's a different player altogether!!! :cursing:

[hastingsyid]

i like cheese with my berger:001_rolleyes: :001_rolleyes:

[gomessi]

:cursing:

Stop saying Berger! That's a different player altogether!!! :cursing:

think berger just edges zakora who just edges berky when it comes to sheer orgasmic brilliance. Not sure where berby would fit in.

[gomessi]

i like cheese with my berger:001_rolleyes: :001_rolleyes:

spelt burger

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[TURKISH]

stats only mean so much. rory delap has 8 assists last season. Matt Taylor scored 10 goals lets get him to replace modric (suggested by yido:scared: )

I've watched bentley a lot and IMO he has only had one excellent season.

I've probably seen bburn 6-8 times a season when bentley was there so maybe not a much as you.

you rate JJ highly, used to rate zok and rate bentley others have a different opinion thats all.

So a 1 season wonder so far.

I don't rate JJ highly I just rate him higher than what we have at this moment in time. When did I use to rate zok? I just like to point out when he done well thats all, when you see players not giving there all but you see a player like zok who always trys and runs his heart out you can't help but like him. The bloke only speaks good things about spurs and only wants to stay even when no one rates him. I do rate bentley and one bad season where alot has happened for him won't change that.

Its easy to say "stats only mean so much" when its proves your wrong. What don't you get about being rovers player of the season in 2006-2007? That surely means he had an excellent season? 2007-2008 which he earned plaudits from everywhere and was rewarded with an england call up, he has been consistently good at every club he has been at.

How on earth you can say he is a one season wonderer I don't know.

PS how many times have I got to tell you I don't rate zok but you always seem to throw that at me like it proves I must be talking rubbish.

[gomessi]

I don't rate JJ highly I just rate him higher than what we have at this moment in time. When did I use to rate zok? I just like to point out when he done well thats all, when you see players not giving there all but you see a player like zok who always trys and runs his heart out you can't help but like him. The bloke only speaks good things about spurs and only wants to stay even when no one rates him. I do rate bentley and one bad season where alot has happened for him won't change that.

Its easy to say "stats only mean so much" when its proves your wrong. What don't you get about being rovers player of the season in 2006-2007? That surely means he had an excellent season? 2007-2008 which he earned plaudits from everywhere and was rewarded with an england call up, he has been consistently good at every club he has been at.

How on earth you can say he is a one season wonderer I don't know.

PS how many times have I got to tell you I don't rate zok but you always seem to throw that at me like it proves I must be talking rubbish.

personally I cant help but dislike zokora because he is such a poor player. Got a good attitude says the right things are the least important things and I dont pay that much attention to what a player says.

I've obviously got the wrong impression on your opinion about zokora. I'm very sorry and its not intended.

You do need stop thinking I'm being disrespectful towards you when there isnt any intent. If I've got an incorrect impression on what you've prevously said I'll hold my hands up like this instance.

oh and Bentley is a one season wonder thats my opinion.

[TURKISH]

personally I cant help but dislike zokora because he is such a poor player. Got a good attitude says the right things are the least important things and I dont pay that much attention to what a player says.

I've obviously got the wrong impression on your opinion about zokora. I'm very sorry and its not intended.

You do need stop thinking I'm being disrespectful towards you when there isnt any intent. If I've got an incorrect impression on what you've prevously said I'll hold my hands up like this instance.

oh and Bentley is a one season wonder thats my opinion.

This situation always happen and when I tell you I don't rate zok as a player you seem to say I rate him in a few months later.

There's no logic in thinking Bentley is a one season wonderer that doesn't make sense.

[gomessi]

This situation always happen and when I tell you I don't rate zok as a player you seem to say I rate him in a few months later.

There's no logic in thinking Bentley is a one season wonderer that doesn't make sense.

so just be cool with its probably a mental slip for some reason mostly towards you. I havent got a problem with you so just relax. You do like sticking up for players that I dont like (jj, zok and previously robbo) perhaps thats the reason.

There is logic becauee he hasnt consistently performed at a high level every week and the only good seasons being the 07-08 one.

Its my opinion and definatly not an extreme one so I cant see why its being put down as illogical.

[TURKISH]

so just be cool with its probably a mental slip for some reason mostly towards you. I havent got a problem with you so just relax. You do like sticking up for players that I dont like (jj, zok and previously robbo) perhaps thats the reason.

There is logic becauee he hasnt consistently performed at a high level every week and the only good seasons being the 07-08 one.

Its my opinion and definatly not an extreme one so I cant see why its being put down as illogical.

I stick up for all players within reason I just don't get the player bashing which comes across as sour grapes. Not hinting at anybody but I look at my career and when I went through bad patches. I was always respected a footballer but theres been times when I move to a team and it takes me time to settle in. I remember one time at 14/15 I moved to a new team after a few years after I quit sunday league and whilst my mate was getting all the praise (just a steady player) I didn't get any. Then a year later I was being considered to being the new captain (the managers son was the captain) and quite a few lads say I was the best player.

I look at bentley and zok through my own personal experiences, I can see talent in Bentley but I can also see the troubles he has been through. I see Zok's inconsistency but what I see is heart and I don't ask anymore of a player who lacks the ability other than they try. I just don't like the way when the players do play well they still continue to get heat.

Its always easy to slag the poor players off and praise the superstars but I just call things how I see things like the rest of you guys do. I like to understand the situation the players and what there skill levels are.

I honestly get sick of these same old arguments again and again I hope zok, bentley and jj all leaves so they will stop. I wish them luck.

[choda]

Matt Taylor is good. I wanted us to get him 2 seasons back.

Taylor is seriously underated as a player pal.

I'm not sure he's top class but he deserves a chance to play for England or get a 5 million move to spurs to prove if he can cut it.

[TURKISH]

Taylor is seriously underated as a player pal.

I'm not sure he's top class but he deserves a chance to play for England or get a 5 million move to spurs to prove if he can cut it.

He is a sleeper in the fantasy football game.

[choda]

He is a sleeper in the fantasy football game.

I had him for the last six months. Cracking value for money.

[Rojoknapp]

I had him for the last six months. Cracking value for money.

Same :thumbup1: It's those players that take you up the league - everyone has Gerrard/ Lampard/ Ronaldo (not anymore :001_smile:) My secret weapon used to be Valencia but everyone rates him now :sad: He used to be dirt cheap and got loads of points... before that it was Tim Cahill, same story. But now everyone knows about him aswell :cursing: Who was it that had Gary Cahill? I know he kept getting them points, he was a good one.

[choda]

I stick up for all players within reason I just don't get the player bashing which comes across as sour grapes. Not hinting at anybody but I look at my career and when I went through bad patches. I was always respected a footballer but theres been times when I move to a team and it takes me time to settle in. I remember one time at 14/15 I moved to a new team after a few years after I quit sunday league and whilst my mate was getting all the praise (just a steady player) I didn't get any. Then a year later I was being considered to being the new captain (the managers son was the captain) and quite a few lads say I was the best player.

I look at bentley and zok through my own personal experiences, I can see talent in Bentley but I can also see the troubles he has been through. I see Zok's inconsistency but what I see is heart and I don't ask anymore of a player who lacks the ability other than they try. I just don't like the way when the players do play well they still continue to get heat.

Its always easy to slag the poor players off and praise the superstars but I just call things how I see things like the rest of you guys do. I like to understand the situation the players and what there skill levels are.

I honestly get sick of these same old arguments again and again I hope zok, bentley and jj all leaves so they will stop. I wish them luck.

No one has sour grapes, that's just silly. You don't want to dislike one of your players. It's just opinions and you seem to think you act different. Get a grip.

I don't think anyone has sour grapes on here, people are getting way too sensitive, like they are the mummy of some players.

People have different opinions I don't think anyone is biased actually. I think some people are clueless, but not biased.

Earl would never admit he is wrong, but anyone else does and would.

[TURKISH]

No one has sour grapes, that's just silly. You don't want to dislike one of your players. It's just opinions and you seem to think you act different. Get a grip.

I don't think anyone has sour grapes on here, people are getting way too sensitive, like they are the mummy of some players.

People have different opinions I don't think anyone is biased actually. I think some people are clueless, but not biased.

Earl would never admit he is wrong, but anyone else does and would.

Thats you in a bundle always quick to blame other people for your actions.

[choda]

Thats you in a bundle always quick to blame other people for your actions.

LOL, will you ever relax. I wasn't blaming anyone.

I was just saying people have different opinions, it not about vendetta's, bias or sour grapes. You've got to get that out of your head.

Well, bar Earl anyway.

[peterc]

Thats you in a bundle always quick to blame other people for your actions.

100% spot on. :thumbup:

[Shelfside]

Me too. Bergkamp should have been a Spurs player, would have liked to have been if we'd have got in their first. Ah well.

Well,the fact is that we DID have the opportunity to sign Bergkamp before Arsenal.Bergkamp was a boyhood Spurs fan and his idol was Glenn Hoddle.When Bergkamp was leaving Inter Milan,his agent contacted Spurs to start talks on a possible transfer.Alan Sugar,being only a month or two post-Jurgen,decided that he didn't want anymore 'Carlos Kickaballs' and said no.Even before Bergkamp was about to put pen to paper,he again contacted Sugar to see if he would change his mind,but alas no.:cursing:
Irving Scholar,a resident of Monaco during the late 80's,also earmarked Wenger as a possible future Spurs Manager.And don't forget we also turned down Gianfranco Zola before Chelsea got him.
What might have been eh?.:crying: :crying: :crying:

[choda]

100% spot on. :thumbup:

100% retard. And yes it was his fault I called him a retard.

Find me five people that don't think Peter is a dumbass and I'll buy you an ice cream.

See Turk, this is who you are in bed with now. :lol:

[Gino Ginelli]

No one has sour grapes, that's just silly. You don't want to dislike one of your players. It's just opinions and you seem to think you act different. Get a grip.

I don't think anyone has sour grapes on here, people are getting way too sensitive, like they are the mummy of some players.

People have different opinions I don't think anyone is biased actually. I think some people are clueless, but not biased.

Earl would never admit he is wrong, but anyone else does and would.

So you've never done that then... :001_rolleyes:

[Baleinho]

See, this is an interesting situation. I cant see any harm in keeping hold of Bentley just for one more season, just to see if 'Arry can get him back on form. He is NOT a 1 season wonder, he is a player under pressure from a hefty pricetag that hasnt set the world on fire. Remind you of a certain Darren Bent?

Bentley isnt a bad player whatsoever, he is a player that needs a confidence boost; now with lennon in form of his life, I dont really know how thats going to work- but If there are no takers for Bentley then so what?

Give the lad another try, just keep the fking boo-boys off him for at least a few weeks.

[Gino Ginelli]

100% retard. And yes it was his fault I called him a retard.

Find me five people that don't think Peter is a dumbass and I'll buy you an ice cream.

See Turk, this is who you are in bed with now. :lol:

Can I have an ice cream anyway? :001_smile:

[Rojoknapp]

100% retard. And yes it was his fault I called him a retard.

Find me five people that don't think Peter is a dumbass and I'll buy you an ice cream.

See Turk, this is who you are in bed with now. :lol:

One :001_smile:

[MarlowSpurs]

Can I have an ice cream anyway? :001_smile:

Mines a fab

[MiloMinderbinder]

Balls!!! That's not true is it?! Say it ain't true!! :crying:

Fraid it is mate, 100%. Just think, we could have hasd a Klinnsman/Bergkamp strike axis, don't care if they won nothing (in the way of trophies), can you imagine the joy they would have brought! :drool:

[Gino Ginelli]

Fraid it is mate, 100%. Just think, we could have hasd a Klinnsman/Bergkamp strike axis, don't care if they won nothing (in the way of trophies), can you imagine the joy they would have brought! :drool:

I don't want to think about it :crying:

[AllRise]

See, this is an interesting situation. I cant see any harm in keeping hold of Bentley just for one more season, just to see if 'Arry can get him back on form. He is NOT a 1 season wonder, he is a player under pressure from a hefty pricetag that hasnt set the world on fire. Remind you of a certain Darren Bent?

Bentley isnt a bad player whatsoever, he is a player that needs a confidence boost; now with lennon in form of his life, I dont really know how thats going to work- but If there are no takers for Bentley then so what?

Give the lad another try, just keep the fking boo-boys off him for at least a few weeks.

Totally agree with the Bent point, they obviously aren't bad players, but I don't think they are brilliant players who are worth that amount of money.

[choda]

So you've never done that then... :001_rolleyes:

Well I don't accuse people of sour grapes, bias and other nonsense instead of just arguing the point.

I often back up Robbie Keane but I know the people who don't rate him as highly as I do don't do it out of spite, it's just their opinion, most people rate him the same as I do anyway, a top class forward, not world class but has been close to the very top strikers at times in his career.

I may have mentioned that if he was English he would be rated higher, but that was more out of frustration that I think he is someone that attracts abuse he doesn't really deserve at times. It happens as much in Ireland.

I don't really understand it but I guess people maybe look for different things and like some things more than others. A great football brain is something I adore.

But end of the day it is just opinions and different philosophies and many players will fall differently on their spectrum.

However, accusing one or two of sour grapes about Berbatov's work rate or Jenas as a player is really absurd. It's clearly not maverick or stick in the mud, it's actually extremely common and those that say otherwise are actually in a minority.

My attitude is of people together debating things in an effort to find truth, I don't give a feck for overemotional bollocks, what I say is what I honestly think. That's all I'm interested in and a bit of banter.

If you don't think my opinion can be swayed you are wrong. But it will take more than arguments that don't appeal to me and saying I have sour grapes. Or if you don't think I can admit when I am wrong, you are wrong.

I mean I HATED Ekotto, but now I say he is class. I give credit where I think it is due, not when someone else thinks it is due. It's f*cking ridiculous this argument. I'm really getting fed up of this forum, even some of the good guys are turning into dickheads (not you Gino, not yet anyway, lol).

I mean I love JoH but you don't see me going around saying people are biased when they say he is shit. Or when Hudd has a good game some on here will still often say he was shite. I wouldn't agree but I don't go saying they have sour grapes or an agenda, THAT'S THEIR OPINION AND IT'S A FORUM WHERE YOU AIR YOUR OPINION!

Some people are acting like little girls. Grow up.

[Gino Ginelli]

Well I don't accuse people of sour grapes, bias and other nonsense instead of just arguing the point.

I often back up Robbie Keane but I know the people who don't rate him as highly as I do don't do it out of spite, it's just their opinion, most people rate him the same as I do anyway, a top class forward, not world class but has been close to the very top strikers at times in his career.

I may have mentioned that if he was English he would be rated higher, but that was more out of frustration that I think he is someone that attracts abuse he doesn't really deserve at times. It happens as much in Ireland.

I don't really understand it but I guess people maybe look for different things and like some things more than others. A great football brain is something I adore.

But end of the day it is just opinions and different philosophies and many players will fall differently on their spectrum.

However, accusing one or two of sour grapes about Berbatov's work rate or Jenas as a player is really absurd. It's clearly not maverick or stick in the mud, it's actually extremely common and those that say otherwise are actually in a minority.

My attitude is of people together debating things in an effort to find truth, I don't give a feck for overemotional bollocks, what I say is what I honestly think. That's all I'm interested in and a bit of banter.

If you don't think my opinion can be swayed you are wrong. But it will take more than arguments that don't appeal to me and saying I have sour grapes. Or if you don't think I can admit when I am wrong, you are wrong.

I mean I HATED Ekotto, but now I say he is class. I give credit where I think it is due, not when someone else thinks it is due. It's f*cking ridiculous this argument. I'm really getting fed up of this forum, even some of the good guys are turning into dickheads (not you Gino, not yet anyway, lol).

I mean I love JoH but you don't see me going around saying people are biased when they say he is shit. Or when Hudd has a good game some on here will still often say he was shite. I wouldn't agree but I don't go saying they have sour grapes or an agenda, THAT'S THEIR OPINION AND IT'S A FORUM WHERE YOU AIR YOUR OPINION!

Some people are acting like little girls. Grow up.

Then why embark on a lengthy tirade defending your sensitivity of Keane? And yes, I know he's good, and he is one of my favourite players of this generation, and he was essential in the past. But accusing others of behavour that you indulge in constantly (beyond the point of merely registering objections with Keane doubters, or joining in with Keane lovers to where you will bring him up in an unrelated topic, or post a huge repetition of mostly everything you've already said a million times in response to a simple comment such as "Keane wasn't very good today") smacks of hypocrisy. He is in fact the one topic where you are incapable of giving a balanced view.

And yeah, I think that your views surrounding Berbatov are blurred by your animosity to his departure. Yeah he behaved unprofessionally, but saying (and I summarise from reading between the lines, not quoting word for word) that he wasn't that good for us anyway, he's shite now, etc etc isn't very balanced, and translates as more of an opinion from bitterness than rationality.

[choda]

Then why embark on a lengthy tirade defending your sensitivity of Keane? And yes, I know he's good, and he is one of my favourite players of this generation, and he was essential in the past. But accusing others of behavour that you indulge in constantly (beyond the point of merely registering objections with Keane doubters, or joining in with Keane lovers to where you will bring him up in an unrelated topic, or post a huge repetition of mostly everything you've already said a million times in response to a simple comment such as "Keane wasn't very good today") smacks of hypocrisy. He is in fact the one topic where you are incapable of giving a balanced view.

And yeah, I think that your views surrounding Berbatov are blurred by your animosity to his departure. Yeah he behaved unprofessionally, but saying (and I summarise from reading between the lines, not quoting word for word) that he wasn't that good for us anyway, he's shite now, etc etc isn't very balanced, and translates as more of an opinion from bitterness than rationality.

What did I accuse anyone of? :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: Tell me what I accused anyone of? I just said people DON'T have sour grapes and they have the right to say what they want as it is their OPINION and I wouldn't accuse them of sour grapes or bias as that is not the reason (in 99% of cases, Earl apart, often). You can read Gino, so why do you think I said the opposite of what I said?

And I've just told you that's untrue about how I look at things. Why state it again? Why write a long post on it since I just told you it is untrue and exactly why.

I love Keane as a player, it is nothing to do with emotion. It is a topic for me because I think it is important to the success of the club I love.

I take exception to this because this is exactly what I am not and strive not to be.

Being objective is crucial or there is no point. And whether you AGREE or not is not about whether I am being objective or not. I am, it is just my objective OPINION, even if you think it is wrong or over the top.

And a good defence might just clear up a matter that is often put to people, not just me, and it causes problems that are not necessary. Might just bring a bit of levity and intelligence to a very dim debate and a forum that is generally going down the tubes due to some idiotic debating.

[Gino Ginelli]

What did I accuse anyone of? :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: Tell me what I accused anyone of?

Your post to Turkish...

I don't think anyone has sour grapes on here, people are getting way too sensitive, like they are the mummy of some players.

People have different opinions I don't think anyone is biased actually. I think some people are clueless, but not biased.

Sorry, but you make your initial claim of people showing favouritism and being too sensitive right here.

Your second remark bolded here is a general defence of the forum members, but ignores your own guilt of this very thing.

I'm not saying there's a problem with any of this. But claiming these things of others as detrimental when you're just as bad reduces your credibilty.

Just saying is all... :001_rolleyes:

[choda]

Your post to Turkish...



Sorry, but you make your initial claim of people showing favouritism and being too sensitive right here.

Your second remark bolded here is a general defence of the forum members, but ignores your own guilt of this very thing.

I'm not saying there's a problem with any of this. But claiming these things of others as detrimental when you're just as bad reduces your credibilty.

Just saying is all... :001_rolleyes:

Let me clear it up. I don't think defending a player or extolling the virtues of a player is mummying them, in fact I think that is an absurd notion.

I call mummying a player giving out because you think people have sour grapes against a player for no real reason or that people shouldn't call Zokora shit if they want to because he tries.

Most people will tell you they would shake his hand and commend his work rate, but just think he is a poor player.

I've been guilty of this once in the last year when I accused Spur of bias against Keane. It was to do with repeated what I thought were very pessimistic digs against a player in horrible form but that is proven and has won numerous awards and has always given his all for spurs.

And it was to do with the fact that I can't understand how a player that scores as much as Defoe in his career and he admits is clearly better in general play can take far more abuse from him in relative terms over the years, way more. Granted I was still wrong and he has his reasons and they can't be biased as he's an intelligent bloke.

Plus I don't like this general line of inquiry that has been put in my direction because not only is it inaccurate but I seem to be the one accused of the sour grapes when many others say exactly the same thing but just aren't as regular, don't make as many points about it or what ever so people forget about them. So it's like it is just me. :confused1:

Ridiculous.

[Gino Ginelli]

Let me clear it up. I don't think defending a player or extolling the virtues of a player is mummying them, in fact I think that is an absurd notion.

I call mummying a player giving out because you think people have sour grapes against a player for no real reason or that people shouldn't call Zokora shit if they want to because he tries.

Most people will tell you they would shake his hand and commend his work rate, but just think he is a poor player.

I've been guilty of this once in the last year when I accused Spur of bias against Keane. It was to do with repeated what I thought were very pessimistic digs against a player in horrible form but that is proven and has won numerous awards and has always given his all for spurs.

And it was to do with the fact that I can't understand how a player that scores as much as Defoe in his career and he admits is clearly better in general play can take far more abuse from him in relative terms over the years, way more. Granted I was still wrong and he has his reasons and they can't be biased as he's an intelligent bloke.

Plus I don't like this general line of inquiry that has been put in my direction because not only is it inaccurate but I seem to be the one accused of the sour grapes when many others say exactly the same thing but just aren't as regular, don't make as many points about it or what ever so people forget about them. So it's like it is just me. :confused1:

Ridiculous.

I can't be arsed anymore. It's like trying to combat white noise with a gnat's fart.

I take it this means I'm not getting an ice cream now :sad:

[choda]

I can't be arsed anymore. It's like trying to combat white noise with a gnat's fart.

I take it this means I'm not getting an ice cream now :sad:

Cheers, thanks for engaging the points that you took up that were replied to coherently, fair-mindly and logically.

[Rojoknapp]

Then why embark on a lengthy tirade defending your sensitivity of Keane? And yes, I know he's good, and he is one of my favourite players of this generation, and he was essential in the past. But accusing others of behavour that you indulge in constantly (beyond the point of merely registering objections with Keane doubters, or joining in with Keane lovers to where you will bring him up in an unrelated topic, or post a huge repetition of mostly everything you've already said a million times in response to a simple comment such as "Keane wasn't very good today") smacks of hypocrisy. He is in fact the one topic where you are incapable of giving a balanced view.

And yeah, I think that your views surrounding Berbatov are blurred by your animosity to his departure. Yeah he behaved unprofessionally, but saying (and I summarise from reading between the lines, not quoting word for word) that he wasn't that good for us anyway, he's shite now, etc etc isn't very balanced, and translates as more of an opinion from bitterness than rationality.

That is annoying.

[choda]

That is annoying.

Well, it's annoying for me listening to the knee jerking that constantly happens on this forum. Different things annoy different people.

Some spend more time on here so they will obviously be repeating themselves.

You think you don't repeat yourself as well. You were blue in the face telling us JJ and Zok was a good partnership and the best we had, repeatedly. I found that annoying. Well, no I didn't actually because I realise it is a forum where people can express what ever they want.

What really annoyed me was Zok and JJ.

Keane is big news for Spurs and Ireland, big news, whether you like it or not. He's obviously going to be talked about a lot.

Just like people stick up for JJ, like yourself, when he gets abuse I do that with Keane when I think it is out of order. And as player I personally think he is one that people are very quick to forget about how good he has been.

It's no biggie, and I've just received a large apology from my friend Turk on this thread saying I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, that he was having a horrible day, which I appreciated.

[Yido]

facts are simple

keane has been rubbish all season
defoe has been excellent when fit. Look at the number of goals he has scored despite 2 longish injuries. Defoes minutes per goal is up their with any striker in the league. :001_smile:

Defoe is also younger than keane and he is the future keane is the past. Keane used to be good but that was only because berbatov was here.

[Gino Ginelli]

facts are simple

keane has been rubbish all season
defoe has been excellent when fit. Look at the number of goals he has scored despite 2 longish injuries. Defoes minutes per goal is up their with any striker in the league. :001_smile:

Defoe is also younger than keane and he is the future keane is the past. Keane used to be good but that was only because berbatov was here.

Nah, Keane's always been good for us, and he was a goalscorer long before he arrived here. Keano's only 28(?) he's got ages left. Teddy improved with age, transitioning from target man to supporting centre forward. The question that hangs over Robbie at the moment is whether he can get himself over his season's disastrous events and get back to his best.

[Rojoknapp]

Well, it's annoying for me listening to the knee jerking that constantly happens on this forum. Different things annoy different people.

Some spend more time on here so they will obviously be repeating themselves.

You think you don't repeat yourself as well. You were blue in the face telling us JJ and Zok was a good partnership and the best we had, repeatedly. I found that annoying. Well, no I didn't actually because I realise it is a forum where people can express what ever they want.

What really annoyed me was Zok and JJ.

Keane is big news for Spurs and Ireland, big news, whether you like it or not. He's obviously going to be talked about a lot.

Just like people stick up for JJ, like yourself, when he gets abuse I do that with Keane when I think it is out of order. And as player I personally think he is one that people are very quick to forget about how good he has been.

It's no biggie, and I've just received a large apology from my friend Turk on this thread saying I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, that he was having a horrible day, which I appreciated.

Knee-jerking annoys me too, it annoys me that people so quickly forget about everything he's done for us, and how ready they are to jump on his back for a few bad games (and not as bad as everyone has made out IMO)

I'm one of the ones who loves Keane - I actually agree with every post you write about him and how important he is - it's just that you bring him into any conversation, even ones that are entirely unrelated. That just invites another argument about Keane, whether it's "Isn't he just as bad as Berbatov?" or if it's "Is he better than Defoe?" and the Keane debates/ conversations/ arguments just get boring is all.

I know I stick up for JJ a lot (though I won't be so much anymore after this season, but that's another matter) and I know I used to say a lot about JJ and Zokora (again, I won't be anymore - Palacios has shown me the light) but it's just when you bring Keane into everything and keep saying the same things that it grows irritating. I'm sure it's not just you who repeats yourself, and I'm sorry if I do it too, but you must realise that we all know your opinions on Keane now, and we don't need you to say the same things about him so extensively all the time.

[choda]

Knee-jerking annoys me too, it annoys me that people so quickly forget about everything he's done for us, and how ready they are to jump on his back for a few bad games (and not as bad as everyone has made out IMO)

I'm one of the ones who loves Keane - I actually agree with every post you write about him and how important he is - it's just that you bring him into any conversation, even ones that are entirely unrelated. That just invites another argument about Keane, whether it's "Isn't he just as bad as Berbatov?" or if it's "Is he better than Defoe?" and the Keane debates/ conversations/ arguments just get boring is all.

I know I stick up for JJ a lot (though I won't be so much anymore after this season, but that's another matter) and I know I used to say a lot about JJ and Zokora (again, I won't be anymore - Palacios has shown me the light) but it's just when you bring Keane into everything and keep saying the same things that it grows irritating. I'm sure it's not just you who repeats yourself, and I'm sorry if I do it too, but you must realise that we all know your opinions on Keane now, and we don't need you to say the same things about him so extensively all the time.

Okay, fair enough. But see below. Everyday you hear cock like, 'he was only good with Berbatov' or some other absolute tripe.

As far as I remember he hasnt' scored 40 international goals with Paddy Berbatov or won three of his four spurs player of the years (including the year we oh so nearly broke the top four) with Berbatov.

It's pretty annoying hearing all that shite too and you hear it all sides at the moment from knee jerking fubars.

He was deeply messed about by Rafa and was shit after the first few games back at spurs, but let's be realistic for f*ck's sake.

And when I talk about Berbatov I talk about a player that I feel has gone down in standard from the best target man in the world and whom I ADORED (which I said at the time) to not even world class anymore and I do believe that started in his second season at spurs (which I said at the time). And I also believe he deserves abuse for it because it is all down to his attitude and unprofessionalism.

[Rojoknapp]

Okay, fair enough. But see below. Everyday you hear cock like, 'he was only good with Berbatov' or some other absolute tripe.

As far as I remember he hasnt' scored 40 international goals with Paddy Berbatov or won three of his four spurs player of the years (including the year we oh so nearly broke the top four) with Berbatov.

It's pretty annoying hearing all that shite too and you hear it all sides at the moment from knee jerking fubars.

He was deeply messed about by Rafa and was shit after the first few games back at spurs, but let's be realistic for f*ck's sake.

And when I talk about Berbatov I talk about a player that I feel has gone down in standard from the best target man in the world and whom I ADORED (which I said at the time) to not even world class anymore and I do believe that started in his second season at spurs (which I said at the time). And I also believe he deserves abuse for it because it is all down to his attitude and unprofessionalism.

There are few attitudes which wind me up more than that one :angry: