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Keanoldinho
31st May 2009, 01:43 PM
some ITK from some guy on another forum about these arab cvnts
From Spurmad321 over on COYS regarding Man City
"Barry is 100% a done deal, and Tevez is 80% certain to happen.
People who know me on here know that I have a very solid contact, check my previous posts on Man City."
29th May 2009
these w@nkers are going to be a big force next season, with the money they've got and are throwing it around I can see them knocking one of the sky 4 off their perch probably the scummy goons but ffs they're about to make a mockery of the transfer market
peterc
31st May 2009, 01:50 PM
some ITK from some guy on another forum about these arab cvnts
From Spurmad321 over on COYS regarding Man City
"Barry is 100% a done deal, and Tevez is 80% certain to happen.
People who know me on here know that I have a very solid contact, check my previous posts on Man City."
29th May 2009
these w@nkers are going to be a big force next season, with the money they've got and are throwing it around I can see them knocking one of the sky 4 off their perch probably the scummy goons but ffs they're about to make a mockery of the transfer market
Basically a photocopy of what Chel$ki did when Abromovich took over. Shame, it's ruining the sport that we all love.
Keanoldinho
31st May 2009, 01:59 PM
Basically a photocopy of what Chel$ki did when Abromovich took over. Shame, it's ruining the sport that we all love.
yeah but probably even worse
these guys are supposed to have a shat load more doe than Abromobitch
one of them just bought pompey too didn't they so well have to wait and see what happens with them
I can see it getting very tight at the top of the table over the coming years with these guys coming in and throwing money arround like they've lost their minds. I worry about how we're going to beable to compete soon.
Spur
31st May 2009, 02:06 PM
Below is from Blue Moon:
Tevez - talks well under way but difficult as third party interest, but looking good
Barry - 'Pool or goons can't compete only real threat will come from Spurs, who do seem to have money to spend again, they seem to be a big money making club. Their ace in the pack seems to be most he family are season ticket holders there and he himself is a Spurs fan. But money will talk at the end of the day as they have a fairly tight wage structure.
No news on Eto'o rumours
Hughes has to hit the ground running or bye bye
http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewt...10&t=124222
Rojoknapp
31st May 2009, 02:12 PM
If we are interested in Barry then how come we haven't heard more about it? We hear about so many players who we're not even slightly interested in, so I think if we were anywhere near Barry then we would have heard more.
Thanks for showing us this stuff Spur :thumbup1:
Keanoldinho
31st May 2009, 02:12 PM
Barry and Tevez alone would really improve them w@nkers alot but they won't stop there, they're going to try and buy the title which really isn't that hard to do just look at Blackburn and Chavski for examples. They'll at the very least finish top 4 next season I think which will be funny seeing the goons most likely being the team to get knocked out but will be equally shit seeing another big money pr!ck come in and stick another few nails in the coffin of football.
Rojoknapp
31st May 2009, 02:13 PM
some ITK from some guy on another forum about these arab cvnts
From Spurmad321 over on COYS regarding Man City
"Barry is 100% a done deal, and Tevez is 80% certain to happen.
People who know me on here know that I have a very solid contact, check my previous posts on Man City."
29th May 2009
these w@nkers are going to be a big force next season, with the money they've got and are throwing it around I can see them knocking one of the sky 4 off their perch probably the scummy goons but ffs they're about to make a mockery of the transfer market
If Barry was a 100% done deal on the 29th, how come nothing has happened two days later?
Keanoldinho
31st May 2009, 02:17 PM
If Barry was a 100% done deal on the 29th, how come nothing has happened two days later?
you're asking the wrong person but with the money they'll be throwing around they're going to build a very good squad over the summer
If we get Barry it will be a small miracle in my book
Spur
31st May 2009, 02:23 PM
If we are interested in Barry then how come we haven't heard more about it? We hear about so many players who we're not even slightly interested in, so I think if we were anywhere near Barry then we would have heard more.
Thanks for showing us this stuff Spur :thumbup1:
If Barry was a 100% done deal on the 29th, how come nothing has happened two days later?
I was said on a Villain forum the other day that Barry is saying nothing regarding his future at the mo. Refuses to discuss contract, refuses to discuss a move, refuses everything. Playing his cards very close to his chest it seems.
Interest in him will be high.
TURKISH
31st May 2009, 02:41 PM
How will City fit Barry, DeJong, Ireland in midfield? Also Robinho who cuts in from the left, Bellamy who cuts in from the left, Petrov who is a left sided player, Tevez who runs everywhere?
I can't see Barry going city straight away, I believe he won't make a rash decision and this one will play out for a while.
Spur
31st May 2009, 02:47 PM
How will City fit Barry, DeJong, Ireland in midfield? Also Robinho who cuts in from the left, Bellamy who cuts in from the left, Petrov who is a left sided player, Tevez who runs everywhere?
I can't see Barry going city straight away, I believe he won't make a rash decision and this one will play out for a while.
And Kompany. And Johnson.
TURKISH
31st May 2009, 02:51 PM
And Kompany. And Johnson.
I'm guessing Kompany will go cb with dunne and Richards will be rb. Either way I can't see Barry going to City as its a big gamble as there at an early stage on uncertainty. I believe we may have a genuine chance to get him.
Spur
31st May 2009, 02:53 PM
I'm guessing Kompany will go cb with dunne and Richards will be rb. Either way I can't see Barry going to City as its a big gamble as there at an early stage on uncertainty. I believe we may have a genuine chance to get him.
Just bought the new boy at RB. What's his face? Spanish I believe. Where's Gomessi when you need him?
Pablo something... It'll come to me. I'm refusing to Google this one.
Keanoldinho
31st May 2009, 02:53 PM
How will City fit Barry, DeJong, Ireland in midfield? Also Robinho who cuts in from the left, Bellamy who cuts in from the left, Petrov who is a left sided player, Tevez who runs everywhere?
I can't see Barry going city straight away, I believe he won't make a rash decision and this one will play out for a while.
433
----------De Jong
------Barry------Ireland
---Elano-------------Robinho
----------Tevez
they'll just have a hugh squad like chavski when Mourinho was there. There'll be alot of movement there this summer and expect afew big names coming in so the owners can state their intentions
TURKISH
31st May 2009, 02:58 PM
433
----------De Jong
------Barry------Ireland
---Elano-------------Robinho
----------Tevez
they'll just have a hugh squad like chavski when Mourinho was there. There'll be alot of movement there this summer and expect afew big names coming in so the owners can state their intentions
A beatable team imo. You can hurt them down the wings and I'l take Johnson and Petrov.:001_smile:
Keanoldinho
31st May 2009, 03:05 PM
A beatable team imo. You can hurt them down the wings and I'l take Johnson and Petrov.:001_smile:
every teams beatable but that was just an example still a strong set up though especially if Elano was replaced with another big name
They really need to get their defence together but I guess we'll just have to see what Hughes does. He could bottle it and get the axe early on in the season which I think might happen.
Rojoknapp
31st May 2009, 04:05 PM
Just bought the new boy at RB. What's his face? Spanish I believe. Where's Gomessi when you need him?
Pablo something... It'll come to me. I'm refusing to Google this one.
Zabaleta - Argentinian. And even he has been playing cm this season, but I don't think they'd be too bothered to see him go.
Spur
31st May 2009, 04:24 PM
Zabaleta - Argentinian. And even he has been playing cm this season, but I don't think they'd be too bothered to see him go.
That's the one :thumbup1:
peterc
31st May 2009, 06:40 PM
yeah but probably even worse
these guys are supposed to have a shat load more doe than Abromobitch
one of them just bought pompey too didn't they so well have to wait and see what happens with them
I can see it getting very tight at the top of the table over the coming years with these guys coming in and throwing money arround like they've lost their minds. I worry about how we're going to beable to compete soon.
Indeed, a very worrying point.
Lilywhite Lad
31st May 2009, 07:56 PM
every teams beatable but that was just an example still a strong set up though especially if Elano was replaced with another big name
They really need to get their defence together but I guess we'll just have to see what Hughes does. He could bottle it and get the axe early on in the season which I think might happen.
I agree with that and i see it happening. At the end of the day, Chelski had something of a history when they were taken over and were already top 4 class anyway, with no huge local rivals(ok us and Arsenal, but i'm talking about United to City, who are bigger and much, much better rivals). They had no real problem attracting big flash players to the club, and kept their quality players with no hassle also.
City have got a lot harder to work than Chelski when you take into account they are still a long way outside the top 4, meaning many top players are going to turn them down. The only players that will go to them, will be arrogant, unproffesional foreigners, just looking to earn thousands of pounds a week. They'll end up having a squad full of players with no passion, pride or work ethic, the manager will them get blamed and be bombed out, probably then replaced by Phil Scolari or some unsuccessful big name manager that'll still only get them as far as the Europa prehaps.
If City are to do this properly, they need to take their time, they can't just expect to jump into the top 4, when they didn't even qualify for the Europa this season, it just won't work, no matter how much money they throw about. Personally, i think they'll charge in, blinded by the aspect of being so wealthy, and faulter when the season commences, rather like we did.
choda
31st May 2009, 11:45 PM
I agree with that and i see it happening. At the end of the day, Chelski had something of a history when they were taken over and were already top 4 class anyway, with no huge local rivals(ok us and Arsenal, but i'm talking about United to City, who are bigger and much, much better rivals). They had no real problem attracting big flash players to the club, and kept their quality players with no hassle also.
City have got a lot harder to work than Chelski when you take into account they are still a long way outside the top 4, meaning many top players are going to turn them down. The only players that will go to them, will be arrogant, unproffesional foreigners, just looking to earn thousands of pounds a week. They'll end up having a squad full of players with no passion, pride or work ethic, the manager will them get blamed and be bombed out, probably then replaced by Phil Scolari or some unsuccessful big name manager that'll still only get them as far as the Europa prehaps.
If City are to do this properly, they need to take their time, they can't just expect to jump into the top 4, when they didn't even qualify for the Europa this season, it just won't work, no matter how much money they throw about. Personally, i think they'll charge in, blinded by the aspect of being so wealthy, and faulter when the season commences, rather like we did.
They could actually turn into a bit of a mess. I think they bought the wrong players last summer. Too many midgets. The team is way too small.
Where was the plan?
I totally agree that it will take time for them to become a force for the reasons you stated. They started to make a first very good buy when they bought Given. I don't think anyone else they bought is amazing. Ireland was amazing this year but they didn't buy him.
Fact is Sven did better with Shinawatra, because it was building a far more balanced outfit. But Sven is particularly good at buying players, that's what makes him so good at club management. He can buy for his systems and organise them well.
I think they've gone backwards in many ways. There's no structure to that team if you ask me. It's a case of too many similar and small players. The height of that team is frighteningly small, midfield to front.
They've a long way to go and they still have to do it right.
gomessi
1st June 2009, 04:33 AM
god i hate them:cursing: they've always been ****ing shit and without these backers they'd alwsys be that way.
I know this might sound strange but city getting into the top 4 would actually be a bad thing even if they replace arsenal. Yes i do hate arsenal but it wiil only encourage more billionaires to buy a club leaving us in no position to comete in the transfer market.
buying success has been done before and it will be done again and taking the moral high ground is just leaving is going to leave us a long way behind. Saying that I still stick to my principle and would hate to buy success and I might even stop supporting spurs if we did what city are now doing. :sad:
e.g. if man city wanted palacios we wouldnt have stood a chance and thats a disgrace because history will show man city have never ever had our financial muscle. :sad:
There should be rules like you can only spend x% of your turnover on transfer fess and y% on wages. Unfortunatly there is no chance thats ever going to happen.
the transfer market is supposed to be unpredictable. With all these rich guys its only going to mean clubs like us will have to wait in A ****ING QUEUE before having a chance to sign players. :angry:
Gino Ginelli
1st June 2009, 12:14 PM
That's the reality of football down the years though. The rich clubs buy the big players, and the other clubs make do with what they can get. It's how clubs like Torquay, Hartlepool, York, Darlington etc etc have never made it to the top flight, or indeed the second tier in some cases, because the finances just aren't their.
No point in really stressing about it, it'll always happen. Just because the buyers are now from abroad and possess greater wealth doesn't really mean it'll destroy the game. How pissed off do you think Oldham fans are now after they were relegated 15 years ago, only to see local minnows Blackburn attain a sugar daddy who injected wads of cash that propelled them all the way to the Premiership title? And Dave Whelan did the same with Wigan. Newcastle were at best a yo-yo club until John Hall pitched up.
History repeats itself. It'll be our turn again one day. Don't you worry :001_smile:
Lilywhite Lad
1st June 2009, 09:16 PM
They could actually turn into a bit of a mess. I think they bought the wrong players last summer. Too many midgets. The team is way too small.
Where was the plan?
I totally agree that it will take time for them to become a force for the reasons you stated. They started to make a first very good buy when they bought Given. I don't think anyone else they bought is amazing. Ireland was amazing this year but they didn't buy him.
Fact is Sven did better with Shinawatra, because it was building a far more balanced outfit. But Sven is particularly good at buying players, that's what makes him so good at club management. He can buy for his systems and organise them well.
I think they've gone backwards in many ways. There's no structure to that team if you ask me. It's a case of too many similar and small players. The height of that team is frighteningly small, midfield to front.
They've a long way to go and they still have to do it right.
Mark my words, as much as people will tip them to go far this season, 12 months from now, they could be as big a joke as Newcastle. I hate to say this, but at least Chelski kind of did something right when they became rich. They didn't go and try to get themselves the biggest names in football for outrageous fees, they bought many players, and increased the depth in their squad. The names they were signing to begin with were, at the time, talented youngish players such as Damien Duff, Glen Johnson, Scott Parker, Geremi etc.
These were players that helped them quite a lot really, they managed to get second, which was a huge step from 4th place finishes on average. They were better players thyan what they had anyway, and the fact that they strengthened the squad in almost every area needed, proved the key, it was only the coming seasons after where they were able to then attract bigger names, and a higher profile manager. This then in effect, got them Premiership trophies.
Not even this approach would work for City though i don't believe. They need to take an even more patient approach. Like i say, they're not in the same position Chelsea were in 4-5 years ago. For a club like them to go from outside the Europa to top 4 in one season is absurd, they need to focus on getting in just the Europa this season, then maybe aim for a trophy next season with a higher placed finish or just an equivalent finish. That way they can send a message to other quality players around Europe, that they're a team with money, who are on the up, and capable of winning silverware, this message would get them some real good players then i believe, ones that are willing to help them push for the top 4 and get more trophies, the reputation they've got at the mo is not a good one, these top players are laughing at them and will damage any chances of a link in the future.
They'll aim too high though no doubt, they may not even get any decent players this transfer window, as like i say, the better ones won't want to join, and those will be the ones they'll only be aiming to sign, not setting sights any lower. It's inevitable. It's just so gonna backfire for them, mark my words, my instinct has never been stronger, we've really nothing to be worried about :001_smile: .
Rojoknapp
1st June 2009, 09:23 PM
I think that with all resources at their disposal, top 6 is a realistic, achievable target, and fair play to the owners, Hughes has come out and said that the owners have told him that top 6 is next season's goal. What remains to be seen is what will happen if Sparky doesn't get the top 6 place. What I would be really interested to see is them finishing 7th, but getting Europa. Would that be enough or would they fire him anyway?
Lilywhite Lad
1st June 2009, 09:28 PM
I think that with all resources at their disposal, top 6 is a realistic, achievable target, and fair play to the owners, Hughes has come out and said that the owners have told him that top 6 is next season's goal. What remains to be seen is what will happen if Sparky doesn't get the top 6 place. What I would be really interested to see is them finishing 7th, but getting Europa. Would that be enough or would they fire him anyway?
I've got a feeling he won't even get that far. Just think they'll stab him in the back when a couple of results don't go his way. Maybe i'm associating them too much with the Levy-Jol situation, but fans are expecting so much more, and the fact they've got loads of money, they'll probably want him to hit the ground running from the off.
He may even resign when the pressure gets too much for him, time will tell i suppose.
choda
1st June 2009, 09:38 PM
I've got a feeling he won't even get that far. Just think they'll stab him in the back when a couple of results don't go his way. Maybe i'm associating them too much with the Levy-Jol situation, but fans are expecting so much more, and the fact they've got loads of money, they'll probably want him to hit the ground running from the off.
He may even resign when the pressure gets too much for him, time will tell i suppose.
I don't understand the way he has bought so far. He may be the type that is great with no money, but give him a real cheque book and doesn't know what he's doing. Seems that way so far.
De Jong is nowhere near Palacious as far as I'm concerned. Kompany looks okay, isn't he supposed to be the dog's bollocks? Maybe he will be, I don't know.
I don't see the balance. Given and Bridge is a good start. But if I were him I'd inject some real physical power in that team, it badly needs it. I don't know why Johnson has been frozen out. He was a box to box physical lad that they need.
And I'd go for big lad like Joaquin instead of SWP, more class, final ball and have Petrov the other side. Buy a target man and play him with Robinho.
More along them lines and build a real side, not one that can't play away and is easily bullied.
Lilywhite Lad
1st June 2009, 09:47 PM
I don't understand the way he has bought so far. He may be the type that is great with no money, but give him a real cheque book and doesn't know what he's doing. Seems that way so far.
De Jong is nowhere near Palacious as far as I'm concerned. Kompany looks okay, isn't he supposed to be the dog's bollocks? Maybe he will be, I don't know.
I don't see the balance. Given and Bridge is a good start. But if I were him I'd inject some real physical power in that team, it badly needs it. I don't know why Johnson has been frozen out. He was a box to box physical lad that they need.
And I'd go for big lad like Joaquin instead of SWP, more class, final ball and have Petrov the other side. Buy a target man and play him with Robinho.
More along them lines and build a real side, not one that can't play away and is easily bullied.
In a way, their squad will be a bit like ours at the start of the season. No real strength, weak attack. They look like they may only be going for attack-minded players, as they have only been linked with those types lately(i don't see them getting Barry tbh). They probably will keep with De Jong etc in the centre. Just choose to strengthen the attack. They'll then start the season with players that'll still need time to adapt and gel, will have little success with movement and strength on the attack, and just get raped on the counter, it doesn't look good for them.
earl warwick
1st June 2009, 11:06 PM
I don't understand the way he has bought so far. He may be the type that is great with no money, but give him a real cheque book and doesn't know what he's doing. Seems that way so far.
De Jong is nowhere near Palacious as far as I'm concerned. Kompany looks okay, isn't he supposed to be the dog's bollocks? Maybe he will be, I don't know.
I don't see the balance. Given and Bridge is a good start. But if I were him I'd inject some real physical power in that team, it badly needs it. I don't know why Johnson has been frozen out. He was a box to box physical lad that they need.
And I'd go for big lad like Joaquin instead of SWP, more class, final ball and have Petrov the other side. Buy a target man and play him with Robinho.
More along them lines and build a real side, not one that can't play away and is easily bullied.
A PM to Spur might enlighten you. Rumours, of course.
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 08:28 AM
A PM to Spur might enlighten you. Rumours, of course.
come on earl just share the info!
Have we shown an interest?
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 08:34 AM
I don't understand the way he has bought so far. He may be the type that is great with no money, but give him a real cheque book and doesn't know what he's doing. Seems that way so far.
De Jong is nowhere near Palacious as far as I'm concerned. Kompany looks okay, isn't he supposed to be the dog's bollocks? Maybe he will be, I don't know.
I don't see the balance. Given and Bridge is a good start. But if I were him I'd inject some real physical power in that team, it badly needs it. I don't know why Johnson has been frozen out. He was a box to box physical lad that they need.
And I'd go for big lad like Joaquin instead of SWP, more class, final ball and have Petrov the other side. Buy a target man and play him with Robinho.
More along them lines and build a real side, not one that can't play away and is easily bullied.
Kompany is a cb playing in midfield.
Johnson has got a lot of problems with injuries (offical man city stance)
Joaquin has been unbelievably shit for someone with so much ability. There wouldnt be a problem with wages though think he's on about £70,000 and he will probably be sold at a massive loss. Why would m hughes be the man to get his old form back? Lots of managers have tried but ultimatly failed. He's got talent so maybe a fresh challenge could do the trick.
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 11:43 AM
Looks like he's going there. :sad:
Lilywhite Lad
2nd June 2009, 11:44 AM
****ing hell! Looks like i was wrong and they will be getting Barry:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5359417,00.html
:angry: :thumbdown: :cursing:
Mattyboii
2nd June 2009, 11:48 AM
i could phone up ssn and say ronaldinho is talking to daniel levy,
they would automatically think something broadcast it
and realise that daniel levy was just asking for advice on places in brazil....
Lilywhite Lad
2nd June 2009, 11:52 AM
I thought he'd be the type of player to go to a bigger club, for the bigger challenge. Obviously he doesn't mind taking a step backwards for 50K more a week :thumbdown:
He'll help their midfield a lot, it's players like him they need really. Ah well, we'd best get used to it, they're gonna be in talks with big name players all summer, just most of them won't pay off as well i don't think. (P.S by big name players, i mean players that are past it a bit, players looking for the wages to see them into a happy retirement i.e chubby Ronaldo, Raul etc)
Lilywhite Lad
2nd June 2009, 11:53 AM
i could phone up ssn and say ronaldinho is talking to daniel levy, they would automatically think something broadcast it
and realise that daniel levy was just asking for advice on places in brazil....
Go for it! I dare you! :001_rolleyes:
Mattyboii
2nd June 2009, 11:54 AM
Go for it! I dare you! :001_rolleyes:
i had a feeling someone would say that....:001_rolleyes:
lol
nah what im basically saying is, its not true untill mike ashley sings
its gotta be confirmed
Lilywhite Lad
2nd June 2009, 11:58 AM
i had a feeling someone would say that....:001_rolleyes:
lol
nah what im basically saying is, its not true untill mike ashley sings
its gotta be confirmed
Well i can't get you Mike Ashley singing, but i can get you a link to the Aston Villa website:
http://www.avfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/0,,10265~1679514,00.html
It basically says the club can confirm it's true and he is in talks :angry:
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 12:33 PM
Well i can't get you Mike Ashley singing, but i can get you a link to the Aston Villa website:
http://www.avfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/0,,10265~1679514,00.html
It basically says the club can confirm it's true and he is in talks :angry:
suprise suprise its the money £££££££ signs. If wayne bridge gets £90,000 a week robinho top earner at £165k barry probably thinks he'll be able to negotaite £130k a week.
They'll soon dwarf chelseas £150,000,000 a year wage bill.
its ****ing city ffs:cursing: they've always been poor compared to us and now we dont stand a chance. I remember when they sold swp for £21m they justified the sale by saying it reduced their debts from £50m to £30m.
I'd love it if tha abu dhabi lot decided to **** off pass the club onto a m ashley type of owner and then see man city relegated. We might just haveto get used to this shit :sad:
and I cant believe I had barry in my avatar some spurs fan he is.
Mattyboii
2nd June 2009, 12:37 PM
i meant when fat man sings as in When hes there holding up their rag of shit
Shelfside
2nd June 2009, 12:42 PM
Barry is of course (possibly) going to join a club who aren't even in the Europa League next season.He will gloss over that trifling inconvenience with 'it's not about next year,but it's the long term project and ambitions,blah,blah,blah'.
If he had joined Liverpool last seasn,he would still have been handsomely paid but he would have joined a club that is a genuine contender for the big prizes.By joining Man City,Barry has shown that his ambitions for his bank balance outweigh his ambitions for his winner's medal collection.
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 01:01 PM
suprise suprise its the money £££££££ signs. If wayne bridge gets £90,000 a week robinho top earner at £165k barry probably thinks he'll be able to negotaite £130k a week.
They'll soon dwarf chelseas £150,000,000 a year wage bill.
its ****ing city ffs:cursing: they've always been poor compared to us and now we dont stand a chance. I remember when they sold swp for £21m they justified the sale by saying it reduced their debts from £50m to £30m.
I'd love it if tha abu dhabi lot decided to **** off pass the club onto a m ashley type of owner and then see man city relegated. We might just haveto get used to this shit :sad:
and I cant believe I had barry in my avatar some spurs fan he is.
You're so bitter about City's wealth. :lol: :biggrin:
The childhood fan usually becomes a professional wage maximiser.
Villa are prepared to pay Barry 70k a week so I'd imagine City will go to at least 90k a week. Robinho's a one-off and I don't see Barry gettting 130k.
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 01:08 PM
come on earl just share the info!
Have we shown an interest?
Not that I am aware of. I was referring to his social issues.
Keanoldinho
2nd June 2009, 01:37 PM
You're so bitter about City's wealth. :lol: :biggrin:
The childhood fan usually becomes a professional wage maximiser.
Villa are prepared to pay Barry 70k a week so I'd imagine City will go to at least 90k a week. Robinho's a one-off and I don't see Barry gettting 130k.
I doubt it this lot are about to throw money around like it's never been done before. What were they going to pay Kaka 250k a week was it
this thread coulda went in my man shitty thread too why start a new one gomessi
Keanoldinho
2nd June 2009, 01:42 PM
****ing hell! Looks like i was wrong and they will be getting Barry:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5359417,00.html
:angry: :thumbdown: :cursing:
This lot are about to sh!t all over the transfer market like it's never been done before. With the money they've got it's only a matter of time before they start winning stuff. Look how close they were to signing Kaka and that was January so there's no doubt in my mind they'll pull some big names in the summer because money talks and these players are trying to make as much of it as possible while they're still at the top level.
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 02:10 PM
I doubt it this lot are about to throw money around like it's never been done before. What were they going to pay Kaka 250k a week was it
this thread coulda went in my man shitty thread too why start a new one gomessi
200k but they denied it, and the 100m transfer fee.
Do you know the Prodigy song "Firestarter"? Similarly, gomessi is a threadstarter, a twisted threadstarter. His hair's quite boring though. :001_smile:
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 03:54 PM
I doubt it this lot are about to throw money around like it's never been done before. What were they going to pay Kaka 250k a week was it
this thread coulda went in my man shitty thread too why start a new one gomessi
lol sorry about that.
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 05:54 PM
That was over very quick. City sources predicted it was done a week ago. 100k a week, double his Villa salary. I expect some will still be shocked that the boyhood Spurs fan was so easily swayed.
TURKISH
2nd June 2009, 05:55 PM
HAHAH 12m deal Rafa will be gutted.
TURKISH
2nd June 2009, 06:00 PM
Bloke on coys called this a good week before anyone had a sniff.
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 06:23 PM
Bloke on coys called this a good week before anyone had a sniff.
Probably got it from Blue Moon.
It was on SO on 29 May:" Barry is 100% a done deal, and Tevez is 80% certain to happen."
There were still plenty of dreamers thinking that "boyhood fan" means anything. Funnily enough, 50k extra a week meant a lot more.
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 06:29 PM
tevez will 100% definatly be announced in 24 hours. Can I have an itk badge:001_rolleyes:
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 06:31 PM
You're so bitter about City's wealth. :lol: :biggrin:
The childhood fan usually becomes a professional wage maximiser.
Villa are prepared to pay Barry 70k a week so I'd imagine City will go to at least 90k a week. Robinho's a one-off and I don't see Barry gettting 130k.
yes I am because with out they'd be same old man shitty in the transfer market. Now they can hold onto their good players and blow us out of the water :sad:
TURKISH
2nd June 2009, 06:34 PM
Probably got it from Blue Moon.
It was on SO on 29 May:" Barry is 100% a done deal, and Tevez is 80% certain to happen."
There were still plenty of dreamers thinking that "boyhood fan" means anything. Funnily enough, 50k extra a week meant a lot more.
As i've said from day one but many won't listen Players think about their careers, fans about their club.
TURKISH
2nd June 2009, 06:44 PM
yes I am because with out they'd be same old man shitty in the transfer market. Now they can hold onto their good players and blow us out of the water :sad:
Let them get on with it pal it shouldn't stop us from improving our squad come august time. They will lack balance imo and all we need to do is add three experienced quality players which doesn't always mean splashing out big money.
Arsene Wenger always finds gems without splashing big money and we can do the same. We have a long term plan with the stadium, youth set up, new training ground so don't be disheartened by city.
I honestly wouldn't be happy to have a foreign sugar daddy as chairman and I wouldn't feel a sense of achievement in winning the league buy spending
500m in the space of three seasons to do it.
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 07:01 PM
Let them get on with it pal it shouldn't stop us from improving our squad come august time. They will lack balance imo and all we need to do is add three experienced quality players which doesn't always mean splashing out big money.
Arsene Wenger always finds gems without splashing big money and we can do the same. We have a long term plan with the stadium, youth set up, new training ground so don't be disheartened by city.
I honestly wouldn't be happy to have a foreign sugar daddy as chairman and I wouldn't feel a sense of achievement in winning the league buy spending
500m in the space of three seasons to do it.
That's only the millionth time I've heard that. This season, I mean.
You'd be jacking off in the street like the rest of us if we spent 500m and won the league. When called on it, you'd start chanting "Champions!" whilst necking back more extra strong lager than would be advisable. :blushing:
choda
2nd June 2009, 07:11 PM
That's only the millionth time I've heard that. This season, I mean.
You'd be jacking off in the street like the rest of us if we spent 500m and won the league. When called on it, you'd start chanting "Champions!" whilst necking back more extra strong lager than would be advisable. :blushing:
We would find excuses like the other teams were only ahead of us due to hitting the gravy train of tv money at the right time when we didn't and that.
And that we deserve to be up there challenging. In that way I suppose the excuses would be valid in a way, despite the monumental f*ck ups of sugar and his predecessor, which also make it invalid in a way too. But it would be all the sweeter to do it naturally, if possible.
Is it possible? Yes, it is, if you get it all so right and make a number of great signings and build brilliantly over a stretch. Much good work has been done. But it is extremely difficult to break a monopoly like there is now without billionaire backing. And even when you have that is has to be done very well to really build something proper.
If we win the league, Levy and Harry deserve to knighted on the spot and showered with virgins.
TURKISH
2nd June 2009, 07:28 PM
That's only the millionth time I've heard that. This season, I mean.
You'd be jacking off in the street like the rest of us if we spent 500m and won the league. When called on it, you'd start chanting "Champions!" whilst necking back more extra strong lager than would be advisable. :blushing:
Haha I think the majority of the fans are getting fed up of signing kids who look great but then die out considerably.
Winning the league like that would be like playing champ manager and then adding yourself as another manager to then sell your shittest players for millions of pounds. Then becoming manager of all the teams who have player you want so you can buy at a cheap price. Then once you win the league you delude yourself it was all down to your managerial ability.:sad:
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 07:34 PM
In Madrid for 56m fee. TS confirmed it.
Apparently Barry had turned them down for a bigger project. :wink:
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 07:35 PM
listening to Mark Manning the man city fan on setanta made me just want to laugh.
the guy is the most deluded ****er I've ever heard:
"we deserves success"
"this club is as bigas any"
"I wouldnt mind eto and villa"
"this is a big big club 35 years ago we were amongst the very best....."
so only 35 years of shit then eh.
Peter swales, the third tier, a corrupt ex thai pm, billions of arab money and still below us. ****ing **** **** deluded doesnt realise they deserved **** all a rich **** has just come along and decided to piss around with a toy always been a ****ing joke.
yes I'm pissed bitter call it whatever you want. I just want an equal playing field or at least spending within your means. just got a couple of texts from the only man city fan I know and he's loving it.
We missed out on the gravy train and city have done **** all to deserve this level of investement. Perhaps being **** has helped the poor ****s.
City fans thinking they deserve this investement just because they've been **** for 35 years is the worst bit of logic I've ever heard.
and no I dont want a multi billionaire.
Keanoldinho
2nd June 2009, 07:38 PM
I think alot of people aren't really taking into account the ammount of money this lot are going to be throwing around.
I mean look at Barry he's getting 100k a week now. No other team in the whole world would pay him that. This lot can double your wages no matter how much you're getting.
There's no doubt about it they will get some top players in their prime this summer because football players know they have a minimum ammount of time to maximise their profits during their careers in the top flight. Kaka very nearly went in January he had to take afew days to think about it.
Players like Ribery, Tevez, David Villa and Silva, Ibrahimovic are all well within their reaches if they cough up the big money contracts that no other club would offer them. It's really a foregone conclusion they will be a major force in the league next season.
TURKISH
2nd June 2009, 07:43 PM
In Madrid for 56m fee. TS confirmed it.
Apparently Barry had turned them down for a bigger project. :wink:
Oh dear this will push JS off the edge now with Real buying Kaka to compete his Barca side.
gomessi
2nd June 2009, 07:46 PM
Its a truly sick feeling. First chelski then shitty then fukcing pompey and sunderland **** me at this rate the truly **** teams even hull, notlob and stoke shitty might one day blow us out of the water. :cursing:
again who the **** are shitty. Never used to notice them a before that corrupt ex thai pmtook charge and started spending now its gone to another level. :cursing:
Lilywhite Lad
2nd June 2009, 08:36 PM
listening to Mark Manning the man city fan on setanta made me just want to laugh.
the guy is the most deluded ****er I've ever heard:
"we deserves success"
"this club is as bigas any"
"I wouldnt mind eto and villa"
"this is a big big club 35 years ago we were amongst the very best....."
so only 35 years of shit then eh.
Peter swales, the third tier, a corrupt ex thai pm, billions of arab money and still below us. ****ing **** **** deluded doesnt realise they deserved **** all a rich **** has just come along and decided to piss around with a toy always been a ****ing joke.
yes I'm pissed bitter call it whatever you want. I just want an equal playing field or at least spending within your means. just got a couple of texts from the only man city fan I know and he's loving it.
We missed out on the gravy train and city have done **** all to deserve this level of investement. Perhaps being **** has helped the poor ****s.
City fans thinking they deserve this investement just because they've been **** for 35 years is the worst bit of logic I've ever heard.
and no I dont want a multi billionaire.
Hate to say it but a lot of our fans last year was saying stuff like that :blush:
earl warwick
2nd June 2009, 08:55 PM
Hate to say it but a lot of our fans last year was saying stuff like that :blush:
Yep, not seeing the wood for the trees is an expression that springs to mind.
Great to see GM go tonto loco though, isn't it? I get a bit annoyed, but I feel he's taking on every Spurs's fan's deep fury and just spewing it out, like molten lava from an erupting volcano. It dies down, then whenever another player he wants at Spurs is linked with City - BOOM! More lava erupts!
When they sign, an even bigger and longer eruption!
Yes, I will enjoy this summer. :001_smile:
Lilywhite Lad
2nd June 2009, 09:13 PM
I'm just browsing through Man City forums, and laughing at some of the stuff they are saying. This isn't the best thread i could possibly find, i'll keep scouring through, but they are chatting about the possibility of getting Ibrahimovic:
http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=39994
Some of them are actually turning their noses up at the prospect of it, like he's not good enough for them! :scared:
And others are drooling at the possibility of him linking up with Villa and Eto'o! :lol:
I know they've got the funds, but it's just ridiculous! Kaka turned them down plainly because he wanted to stay with Milan, but the fact that they aren't anything near a big club they think they are is the main reason i'd say. Especially now he may be going to Madrid after reiterating his desire to stay :confused1:
Ioang
3rd June 2009, 07:23 AM
I've got a Man U mate who keeps saying theres no way they'll be a force, no one will come to them.... it's so deluded. Money talks, it already has with Barry, Robinho and it'll happen again. Just because possibly the most puritanical world-class footballer rejected them in the winter, does not mean 90% of footballers wouldn't move if you offer them £100,000 a week, probably 2x our top earners.
Just gotta hope they keep their shit manager, but even he can't fail now with a solid midfield. We can only hope to pick up the scraps really :(
Shelfside
3rd June 2009, 08:36 AM
Man City can acquire as many world class players as they like,it won't necessarily make them a world class team.When Chelsea appointed Scolari and then bought Deco,all the media were saying that it would be Chelsea for the Premiership and Champions League without doubt.Of course it never happened,Scolari was sacked and Deco,injuries aside,was pretty ineffective.
What about Real Madrid when they had the 'Galacticos'?.They started off well but too many big ego's in the dressing room destroyed any team spirit that they had.
Man City,a club that even make Tottenham look like a bedrock of stability and consistentcy,still have a long way to go to achieve the dominance that they crave.
olly27
3rd June 2009, 09:31 AM
Man City can acquire as many world class players as they like,it won't necessarily make them a world class team.When Chelsea appointed Scolari and then bought Deco,all the media were saying that it would be Chelsea for the Premiership and Champions League without doubt.Of course it never happened,Scolari was sacked and Deco,injuries aside,was pretty ineffective.
What about Real Madrid when they had the 'Galacticos'?.They started off well but too many big ego's in the dressing room destroyed any team spirit that they had.
Man City,a club that even make Tottenham look like a bedrock of stability and consistentcy,still have a long way to go to achieve the dominance that they crave.
Good post. It is frustrating seeing what City are doing but I still dont think they will break the big four next season, maybe best of the rest but thats it for me. Even if they buy Villa, Tevez, Hangeland or whoever its not as simple to say that everybody will be singing from the same hym sheet immediately. A shaky start and any top four ambitions are out the window. I actually think we will finish above them next season!!!
gomessi
3rd June 2009, 02:55 PM
Oh dear this will push JS off the edge now with Real buying Kaka to compete his Barca side.
Kaka is staying in Milan IMO. Even if he dose go it doesnt change anything. Barca are simply to strong and I dont support barca I just like to watch great footie and they're the best at this moment. :glare:
Keanoldinho
3rd June 2009, 06:51 PM
Kaka is staying in Milan IMO. Even if he dose go it doesnt change anything. Barca are simply to strong and I dont support barca I just like to watch great footie and they're the best at this moment. :glare:
:001_rolleyes:
earl warwick
4th June 2009, 11:18 AM
Kaka is staying in Milan IMO. Even if he dose go it doesnt change anything. Barca are simply to strong and I dont support barca I just like to watch great footie and they're the best at this moment. :glare:
Yeah, you're out of order, Turkish, accusing GM of being a Barca fan. You should apologise unreservedly for...oh, I see GM's started another Barca thread. :blushing:
TURKISH
11th June 2009, 04:38 PM
Kaka is staying in Milan IMO. Even if he dose go it doesnt change anything. Barca are simply to strong and I dont support barca I just like to watch great footie and they're the best at this moment. :glare:
Oh dear you don't mention when you get it wrong.:001_rolleyes:
gomessi
11th June 2009, 06:42 PM
Oh dear you don't mention when you get it wrong.:001_rolleyes:
Alex ferguson
"I wouldnt sell a virus to that mob. Ronaldo wont leave Man United"
dont mention when even the great one gets bullied by more financial muscle.:001_tt2:
Thought Kaka would keep his word or maybe Milan wanted the money.
Gino Ginelli
11th June 2009, 07:42 PM
Kaka says he left so that AC Milan would benefit from the huge salary. Nothing to do with his near 200k a week then...
Rojoknapp
11th June 2009, 07:44 PM
Kaka says he left so that AC Milan would benefit from the huge salary. Nothing to do with his near 200k a week then...
If it was only about money he could have just gone to City, where he could probably have negotiated his way to more than 200,000 a week. I'm sure money's a factor, but he's got his eyes on more than just £££ I reckon.
Gino Ginelli
11th June 2009, 07:48 PM
If it was only about money he could have just gone to City, where he could probably have negotiated his way to more than 200,000 a week. I'm sure money's a factor, but he's got his eyes on more than just £££ I reckon.
Yeah but (and this is where City's aspirations will fall short) a bonafide superstar like Kaka isn't ever going to join Manchester frickin City, no matter how much money is involved.
Seriously, where would you rather play? Sun drenched Spain or the perpetually sodden Manchester?
earl warwick
11th June 2009, 08:28 PM
Alex ferguson
"I wouldnt sell a virus to that mob. Ronaldo wont leave Man United"
dont mention when even the great one gets bullied by more financial muscle.:001_tt2:
Thought Kaka would keep his word or maybe Milan wanted the money.
Milan are desperate for the money, it's widely known. It was pretty obvious from Kaka's words how he felt about the deal.
Also pretty obvious when it's the best time to sell Ronaldo. When he's being an even more than utter prize cock and you get an offer of 80m.
gomessi
11th June 2009, 08:34 PM
Milan are desperate for the money, it's widely known. It was pretty obvious from Kaka's words how he felt about the deal.
Also pretty obvious when it's the best time to sell Ronaldo. When he's being an even more than utter prize cock and you get an offer of 80m.
agree with that assesment,
choda
11th June 2009, 08:45 PM
Milan are desperate for the money, it's widely known. It was pretty obvious from Kaka's words how he felt about the deal.
Also pretty obvious when it's the best time to sell Ronaldo. When he's being an even more than utter prize cock and you get an offer of 80m.
Fergie knows when to sell, usually.
When Ruud wasn't at it in his last two years at united (his work and hold up was not resolute like it was) but still scoring he shipped him out without a blink. Replaced Beckham with Ronaldo when Becks was getting too distracted and intent on coming off the line. And so on.
Spur
11th June 2009, 10:15 PM
If it was only about money he could have just gone to City, where he could probably have negotiated his way to more than 200,000 a week. I'm sure money's a factor, but he's got his eyes on more than just £££ I reckon.
Getting more at RM than City were offering.
Take into account exchange rate and tax.
Keanoldinho
28th July 2009, 10:06 PM
figured I'd bump my old man shitty thread because if they get Toure and Lescott they're fecking set W@NKERS
Rojoknapp
28th July 2009, 10:11 PM
They won't get instant success. You can't just lump a load of new players together and expect it to work. They were doing really well at the end of the season - they shouldn't have bought so many so quickly. 3 new strikers ffs. Where will they all bloody go? Robinho? That's not going to be a harmonious dressing room this season.
Keanoldinho
28th July 2009, 10:18 PM
if they get Toure and Lescott
------------Given
Richards Toure Lescott Bridge
---------DeJong Barry
Tevez------Ireland------Robinho
-----------Adebayor
that team is class
olly27
28th July 2009, 10:22 PM
Given
Richards
Toure
Lescott
Bridge
SWP
Barry
Ireland
Robinho
Tevez
Adebayor/Santa Cruz
Feck that aint bad....probably go like that at home. May take a while to gel, but when it does...feck...:drool:
De Jong, Bellamy, Zabletta not even in there!
choda
28th July 2009, 10:46 PM
if they get Toure and Lescott
------------Given
Richards Toure Lescott Bridge
---------DeJong Barry
Tevez------Ireland------Robinho
-----------Adebayor
that team is class
I suspect that is something like what he will go with as I think he will want a more solid base this year.
Don't be surprised to see Barry and De Jong in the middle :boxing:, Ireland on the right, Robinho on the left and Tevez in behind the Baywhore either.
They are starting to unsettle me now, quite a bit actually. I think they will be hard to beat, but we can do it we've a very decent team ourselves that is shaping up more and more under Harry.
But Man Shitty doing this to Arsenal is VERY funny: :hahaha: :bike:
KevSpur
29th July 2009, 09:19 AM
I don't see how anyone can think Citeh won't break into the top 4 easily this season.
Hughes has been very shrewd this summer by bringing top class players in who have already made their name in the PL.
Really good players don't take forever to adjust to new team mates.
Keanoldinho
29th July 2009, 12:56 PM
you have to laugh at how they just snapped up 2 of the scums best players :rofl:
if wenger isn't careful they could be fecked this season
I can see us really giving them a run for their money for 5th too if they don't properly replace toure and adewhore
choda
29th July 2009, 02:27 PM
I don't see how anyone can think Citeh won't break into the top 4 easily this season.
Hughes has been very shrewd this summer by bringing top class players in who have already made their name in the PL.
Really good players don't take forever to adjust to new team mates.
We've got a lot of those ourselves, not much between the teams if we can get a quality central midfielder to play with Palacios.
earl warwick
29th July 2009, 04:28 PM
I don't see how anyone can think Citeh won't break into the top 4 easily this season.
Hughes has been very shrewd this summer by bringing top class players in who have already made their name in the PL.
Really good players don't take forever to adjust to new team mates.
Over-loaded with forwards(How do you accommodate Robinho, Tevez, Cruz and Adebayor?), lacking at CB even with Toure and don't have a commanding figure or figures to drive on the side when things aren't working out.
KevSpur
29th July 2009, 05:05 PM
Arsenal are 6/4 to fall out of the top 4 with Skybet.
choda
29th July 2009, 06:25 PM
Over-loaded with forwards(How do you accommodate Robinho, Tevez, Cruz and Adebayor?), lacking at CB even with Toure and don't have a commanding figure or figures to drive on the side when things aren't working out.
Lol, can you tell me how Toure gets away with two horrendous years and Dunne doesn't get away with one in your eyes? Is it to do with Toure slinking into the shadows, losing headers all day, being out of position, but not really getting noticed by most, while Dunne tries to correct all the systematic errors around him and looked oafish at times in doing but gets all the abuse and Toure gets f*ck all (much like Richards, who was worse than the two of them by the way)?
Classic Motd opinion. If you saw the way Dunne plays for Ireland you'd know that he's still a very good player, all city defenders just suffered last year in that system and bad organisation.
He'd be a great signing for spurs, especially now.
KevSpur
29th July 2009, 07:02 PM
Lol, can you tell me how Toure gets away with two horrendous years and Dunne doesn't get away with one in your eyes? Is it to do with Toure slinking into the shadows, losing headers all day, being out of position, but not really getting noticed by most, while Dunne tries to correct all the systematic errors around him and looked oafish at times in doing but gets all the abuse and Toure gets f*ck all (much like Richards, who was worse than the two of them by the way)?
Classic Motd opinion. If you saw the way Dunne plays for Ireland you'd know that he's still a very good player, all city defenders just suffered last year in that system and bad organisation.
He'd be a great signing for spurs, especially now.
Dunne would be far better at CB than either Corluca or Thudd, so if we could get him I would be happy with that.
olly27
29th July 2009, 07:13 PM
I wouldn't mind Dunne either...If they get Lescott as well he could become availabile for a half decent figure...Dont see Levy forking out more money on guys in and around 30 though.
More likely to be Bassong or someone.
olly27
29th July 2009, 08:05 PM
City have just upped their bid for Lescott to 19 mil.....Wolfsburg have agreed a fee of 10.5 mil Euros for Martins with Newcastle.....thought they said no one would be sold until the club was sorted out...maybe we weill be signing Bassong pretty soon.
KevSpur
29th July 2009, 09:50 PM
City have just upped their bid for Lescott to 19 mil.....Wolfsburg have agreed a fee of 10.5 mil Euros for Martins with Newcastle.....thought they said no one would be sold until the club was sorted out...maybe we weill be signing Bassong pretty soon.
I would sooner have Dunne TBH.
Baleinho
30th July 2009, 09:44 AM
Hmm...
Dunne is a quality player dont get me wrong, and Bassong is one of those players that shows his ability from time to time but never really shines.
One factor is Bassong would gladly take a spot on the bench when King/Dawson/Woody are fit, but can you see Dunne taking a paycut from City to play 3 games and spend the rest of the season on the bench?
Maybe a short-term loan of Dunne and Signing Bassong could be an option to look into. We need some reinforcment in defence, not a whole new CB partnership that we are stuck with for 3/4 years on long term contracts. Of course, there might be something im missing and Bassong is indeed a quality player that has the ability to be one of the best, in that case - sign him up. Keep Bassong as backup and send Dunne back to City once we have a fully fit force in defence.
irishspur
30th July 2009, 10:05 AM
Dunne would be a great player to have around the place instant captain until king and woody get back. He showed immense character to get over a drinking problem, six years ago he was told to lose weight or he would get free transfered. 6 years later he won player of the year 4 times. Besides i dont think theres much else out there. Bassong already turned us down after we had a bid accepted, wanted massive wages.
Baleinho
30th July 2009, 10:45 AM
Really? Didnt know that.
Well fair play to the lad, shame about Bassong.
Dunne wouldnt cost too much either would he?
olly27
30th July 2009, 11:47 AM
Dunne would be a great player to have around the place instant captain until king and woody get back. He showed immense character to get over a drinking problem, six years ago he was told to lose weight or he would get free transfered. 6 years later he won player of the year 4 times. Besides i dont think theres much else out there. Bassong already turned us down after we had a bid accepted, wanted massive wages.
Bassong hsan't turned us down as yet...wants high wages, but if we agree a fee with Newcastle that will all be negotiated...I would expect us to sign him next week.
Bassong is quality by the way, even though he was in a struggling side. Big future for him and could be an understudy to Ledley King with a view to replacing him (not that he would be as good as King necessarily)
Levy wont be interested in signing to many more players in and around the 30 mark. Bassong has a big future with bundles of potential...much more a Levy type signing.
irishspur
31st July 2009, 12:53 AM
Really? Didnt know that.
Well fair play to the lad, shame about Bassong.
Dunne wouldnt cost too much either would he?
Yep six years ago he was a fat lump of shit, really turned it around. Bassong would be an awesome signing, just pay his wages.
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