Is Benitez such a tool?

[peterc]

Well, well, well, First Liverpool manage to hammer Real Madrid and now Manchester United at Old Trafford. Some credit is now due to Rafa Benitez. Your comments fellow yids.

[Ioang]

Over 38 games he really kinda is. Can always tactically outclass on a one-off though.

[Shelfside]

I think that the scoreline flattered Liverpool.Man Utd were incredibly sloppy defensively.Of course Liverpool had to take the chances that were put on a plate for them,which they duly did.But over the course of the season Liverpool have dropped a lot of points against 'lesser' sides,us included,and this is where you see the failings of Benitez.A league double over Man Utd won't mean much to the Liverpool fans if Utd go on and win the Premiership.

[deadleyledley]

manure champions of the world my arse.

[TURKISH]

I was in shock when I just saw the scoreline.:scared:

But the guy has ad more fvck ups this season than results like that. As Shelfside said a double over Man utd won't mean sweat FA when United lift the Prem title after Liverpool threw it away.

[apr82]

did someone hit the fire alarm with ten minutes to go?manure fans couldn t get out fast enough!!:001_rolleyes:

[choda]

Sorta is I'm afraid. He shoots himself in the foot so many times. He can get a clean sheet anywhere though and in the two legged cl games that is a huge advantage. It usually means if they can get a goal somewhere, an away one or win at Anfield, they have a great chance and so they are very difficult to knock out.

His problem is beating teams that would like to get a draw with him. Then the man has little ideas.

He's essentially a very conservative coach who puts out his team to play conservatively in practically all games. Even today was a conservative team. But they can hurt big teams on a day when they play great as teams that take the game to them are in danger of counter attacks and bursts from Torres and Gerrard.

And Madrid and United were really poor in those games, but Liverpool were great.

It doesn't change his limitations. He can't seem to consistently get his teams to be creative enough to win enough games against inferior sides.

And his transfers are generally poor work, often doesn't buy good enough players and selling players like Keane for Kuyt and NGog is madness and will certainly cost you points.

Still hasn't a notion of winning the league.

United will be back winning and Liverpool will be back drawing in due course.

But no one will want Liverpool in the cl, it's tough to beat them, but when it comes to the crunch I would still fancy united as they do have better players and strength in depth.

[mjbmedia]

every team goes through a poorer patch in the season ,normally.
Liverpool went through theirs at the same time as Man U were totally on fire, have both patches ended with this match? possibly.
But whilst i understand people saying Benitez threw it away, i think its more Man U just being on fire since xmas as Liverpool are still in the same position in relation to the other teams

[Shuggie13]

He is toolish. Liverpool in large are a 3/4 man team. Take out Carragher, Gerrard, Torres and Reina and they do not look that good at all, or they do not look a team of Champions. Compare that to Manure and Chel$ki's squads and that is where the 'tool' part comes in, Benitez has made horrible signings. Add to that his tinkering and you can see where the 'throwing away the title' comments come from. The Rant (TM) didn't help much either.

Saturday was more about Vidic having a terrible match and for the second time in a week Carrick/Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez looking a bit flat. Van Der Saar wearing concrete boots didn't help much either.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Rafa is a tactical genius par excelleence, possibly only Jol :blushing: , sorry I mean Mourinho comes close. However, he doesn't know how to deal with big squads or how to prioritise competitions in conjunction with his resources.

He would in my opinion be the perfect national manager, especially at tournaments.

[gomessi]

Rafa is a tactical genius par excelleence, possibly only Jol :blushing: , sorry I mean Mourinho comes close. However, he doesn't know how to deal with big squads or how to prioritise competitions in conjunction with his resources.

He would in my opinion be the perfect national manager, especially at tournaments.

yeah I a#d agree with that. His problem is sometimes he over complicates things wityh tactics and against the lesser teams that really isnt neccessary. In the cl his chess like tactics make him a winner.

Arguably the best tactician in the prem.

[gomessi]

He is toolish. Liverpool in large are a 3/4 man team. Take out Carragher, Gerrard, Torres and Reina and they do not look that good at all, or they do not look a team of Champions. Compare that to Manure and Chel$ki's squads and that is where the 'tool' part comes in, Benitez has made horrible signings. Add to that his tinkering and you can see where the 'throwing away the title' comments come from. The Rant (TM) didn't help much either.

Saturday was more about Vidic having a terrible match and for the second time in a week Carrick/Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez looking a bit flat. Van Der Saar wearing concrete boots didn't help much either.

mascherano and alonso have also been excellent this season.

[Gino Ginelli]

Well, well, well, First Liverpool manage to hammer Real Madrid and now Manchester United at Old Trafford. Some credit is now due to Rafa Benitez. Your comments fellow yids.

WTF is this? Why would a spurs fan give a shite about Benitez reputation, especially an almost smug like ascertation of self satisfaction? Odd... :glare:

[mjbmedia]

WTF is this? Why would a spurs fan give a shite about Benitez reputation, especially an almost smug like ascertation of self satisfaction? Odd... :glare:
cos its been a topic of discussion in many threads this season and opinions are divided and as we only have one game a week, the midweek on here goes dead quiet so we have to talk about other things to keep the forum lively

[choda]

every team goes through a poorer patch in the season ,normally.
Liverpool went through theirs at the same time as Man U were totally on fire, have both patches ended with this match? possibly.
But whilst i understand people saying Benitez threw it away, i think its more Man U just being on fire since xmas as Liverpool are still in the same position in relation to the other teams

Don't really know where you are coming from there mate because ManU are way ahead and had a bad patch themselves start of the season. Every team has patches but don't end up in the same places in the table.

It's about how your performance is judged.

Fact of the matter is this was an amazing opportunity for Rafa and Liverpool to win the title when they had control at numerous stages but didn't pull away and eventually didn't even hang in there and drop a load of points.

He has spent oceans of cash and yet the signings are poor apart from a few. It's not a complete team, it's a defensive unit which he is brilliant at coaching with two superb match winners that suit his direct style of play.

He didn't even give Keane a proper chance and sold him during the season, which would obviously improve his team and squad. A proven quality player instead of Kuyt, Babel, Ngog. Madness.

And he sets his teams out too conservatively against inferior teams and often lacks enough quality match winners to break teams defending down.

And he messed about and sold a proven one.

You have to criticise him for these things and most pool fans I talk to just want rid of him. My dad was over at Anfield for the Sunderland game as well and he said all the fans want him out.

[mjbmedia]

try reading it again without prejudice this time and it may make sense.
Liverpool havent hugely lost ground on any of the other teams o/than Man U who have been on fire recently. indeed see another thread on here that had the table since Harry took over and Liverpool are still up there if i remember correctly .
And please stop saying things like' You HAVE to criticise him etc etc' as we dont HAVE to do anything, we all our own opinions and it gets annoying when you try to force yours on others, and its hardly the first time, thankyou.

[choda]

try reading it again without prejudice this time and it may make sense.
Liverpool havent hugely lost ground on any of the other teams o/than Man U who have been on fire recently. indeed see another thread on here that had the table since Harry took over and Liverpool are still up there if i remember correctly .
And please stop saying things like' You HAVE to criticise him etc etc' as we dont HAVE to do anything, we all our own opinions and it gets annoying when you try to force yours on others, and its hardly the first time, thankyou.

Relax pal, stop being so insecure. You knew people would react to that post and you do that a lot, like Peter, and then get in a huff and get personal when people disagree.

It's just my opinion that you'd have to criticise him, I meant the 'you' as in 'one'. Just MY OPINION, not so important.

I disagree with Turkish on almost everything, that's the nature of a forum, there is no problem. Me and you didn't have a problem until recently and long in the past.

I'm not agreeing, but you were one of the 'internet bullies' yid1962 was referring to. I asked him to see who he was talking about.

I've personally no problem with you, I just don't understand this way of reacting to normal things.

[earl warwick]

Don't really know where you are coming from there mate because ManU are way ahead and had a bad patch themselves start of the season. Every team has patches but don't end up in the same places in the table.

It's about how your performance is judged.

Fact of the matter is this was an amazing opportunity for Rafa and Liverpool to win the title when they had control at numerous stages but didn't pull away and eventually didn't even hang in there and drop a load of points.

He has spent oceans of cash and yet the signings are poor apart from a few. It's not a complete team, it's a defensive unit which is brilliant at coaching with two superb match winners that suit his direct style of play.

He didn't even give Keane a proper chance and sold him during the season, which would obviously improve his team and squad. A proven quality player instead of Kuyt, Babel, Ngog. Madness.

And he sets his teams out too conservatively against inferior teams and often lacks enough quality match winners to break teams defending down.

And he messed about and sold a proven one.

You have to criticise him for these things and most pool fans I talk to just want rid of him. My dad was over at Anfield for the Sunderland game as well and he said all the fans want him out.

Yeah, too many draws at home against sides that should have been beaten.

I'm not hearing all the fans want him out, the owners they definitely want out, and Parry they did. That CL final win and his CL record gives him a lot of credit. Last week that credit must have shot through the roof.

[choda]

Yeah, too many draws at home against sides that should have been beaten.

I'm not hearing all the fans want him out, the owners they definitely want out, and Parry they did. That CL final win and his CL record gives him a lot of credit. Last week that credit must have shot through the roof.

This week may have changed the balance back in his favour in fairness. The majority were against him a week or two ago from what I could gather.

They were singing his name this week with the amazing results again, so if you took a poll it is probably back on side. Pool fans are extremely loyal they were to Houllier as well and I thought he was clearly failing them after spending so much money, more than Rafa.

I'd just expect more from Rafa, he is so good in some ways but imo messes up so badly in other ways and it gives him no chance to win the league.

[Rojoknapp]

Relax pal, stop being so insecure. You knew people would react to that post and you do that a lot, like Peter, and then get in a huff and get personal when people disagree.

It's just my opinion that you'd have to criticise him. Just MY OPINION, not so important.

I disagree with Turkish on almost everything, that's the nature of a forum, there is no problem. Me and you didn't have a problem until recently and long in the past.

I'm not agreeing, but you were one of the 'internet bullies' yid1962 was referring to. I asked him to see who he was talking about.

I've personally no problem with you, I just don't understand this way of reacting to normal things.

Here's a personal problem - Why do you always blurt stuff out in the forum that has been said to you in private?

[earl warwick]

Seems like these "fans" are of Sky, Asia and the PL. You say loyal to Houllier, but he did win trophies, just not the PL or CL. A treble and beating United in CC final. He had the heart attack, tough to want to ditch him then.

Rafa, I've heard a lot from the scousers, and they're solid behind him. A lot of the others just glory hunters and see league of 4.

[choda]

Here's a personal problem - Why do you always blurt stuff out in the forum that has been said to you in private?

Because it's only a forum. And he said it on the public forum he just didn't name names, but it was clear who he was referring to and I asked him in case he was referring to me as I'd been in some arguments with the people involved.

I'd have thought this was an open matter as a result and since Mjb was trying to make out I was a problem then these things should be public. If he wants to bring it to my door.

And if you are referring to the petition thing a madig then that was a matter that was about to be open when Peter knew he was in trouble anyway. I didn't name the person who started it.

Just because something was said in private it doesn't mean it was to be kept secret unless it was clearly too private or they asked you not to go around saying it.

Wouldn't you say that? I would like to think that I exercise the correct discretion.

Can we please move on from all this silliness. It's ridiculous the way these arguments are going on. The rot set in when Jrio was here and it seems it is part of the fabric now.

We need to grow up as a whole or it will have to be run nearly like coys to have a proper forum.

[TURKISH]

Here's a personal problem - Why do you always blurt stuff out in the forum that has been said to you in private?

LMAO He does he tucked me up a couple of times, snitch.:sneaky2:

[choda]

LMAO He does he tucked me up a couple of times, snitch.:sneaky2:

When, you little bitch. :001_smile:

DISCRETION, is my middle name. :thumbup:

[Rojoknapp]

The point is Choda, if Yid1962 had wanted to say who he thought was an "internet bully" in the forum, he would have done, not in so called "PRIVATE messages"

[choda]

The point is Choda, if Yid1962 had wanted to say who he thought was an "internet bully" in the forum, he would have done, not in so called "PRIVATE messages"

Jesus, it's not like he told me he was a bummer and I announced it to the world before he did. :thumbup:

[Rojoknapp]

Jesus, it's not like he told me he was a bummer and I announced it to the world before he did. :thumbup:

Granted, that would have been considerably worse :scared:

[choda]

Granted, that would have been considerably worse :scared:

He is a bummer btw. OOPS! :w00t:

[choda]

Seems like these "fans" are of Sky, Asia and the PL. You say loyal to Houllier, but he did win trophies, just not the PL or CL. A treble and beating United in CC final. He had the heart attack, tough to want to ditch him then.

Rafa, I've heard a lot from the scousers, and they're solid behind him. A lot of the others just glory hunters and see league of 4.

No, I was talking about my mates and what they were saying about their pool friends as well as themselves. And my dad was in liverpool talking to season ticket holders, old geezers who've been there for decades.

Aside from a two week spell before the last two results they do appear to have always been behind him. I wouldn't criticise those who want him out like they are sky fans. I would want him out and I hate sky more than anyone.

BUT, you'd have to have someone better lined up.

Houllier was poor imo, this is Liverpool we are talking about and he spent over 150 million on players on the existing setup he had and couldn't mount a title challenge or get near winning the cl. Football was turgid too.

He did win the FA cup, the uefa cup so fair play for that, but that's not good enough imo in a number of years at Liverpool. You have to challenge for the title when you are at liverpool and get that much money to make it better.

And if you don't do that and it's awful to watch and very frustrating and it never looks like happening then I think you should spread your wings and find someone better.

[peterc]

WTF is this? Why would a spurs fan give a shite about Benitez reputation, especially an almost smug like ascertation of self satisfaction? Odd... :glare:


No one asked you to participate, you don't like the post, you know what you can do mate, on your bike.:001_rolleyes:

[mjbmedia]

who cares about petty things, im just putting someone on ignore again for now.

[Shuggie13]

Thanks rojo for the correction, you are right about Alonso and Masch, in fact when Torres and Gerrard were both out they kept the side ticking over.

Milo I think knocked the nail on the head, Rafa would make an excellent national coach.

I am pleased we are having this debate all aspects of football should be discussed and we shouldn't be so insular and only concentrate on Spurs.

PM's should stay in PM's. They are used as a function to discuss things sometimes that people do not want to make public.

[peterc]

Thanks rojo for the correction, you are right about Alonso and Masch, in fact when Torres and Gerrard were both out they kept the side ticking over.

Milo I think knocked the nail on the head, Rafa would make an excellent national coach.

I am pleased we are having this debate all aspects of football should be discussed and we shouldn't be so insular and only concentrate on Spurs.

PM's should stay in PM's. They are used as a function to discuss things sometimes that people do not want to make public.


Totally agree.

[Gino Ginelli]

No one asked you to participate, you don't like the post, you know what you can do mate, on your bike.:001_rolleyes:

Yes they did, you did, by posting an open question on a public forum, as opposed to a private discussion, which would only then validate your ascertation that "no one invited me." Now answer my question legibly like MJB did or restrain your self from blatantly inflammatory remarks such as this.







C*nt :tongue_smilie:

[peterc]

Yes they did, you did, by posting an open question on a public forum, as opposed to a private discussion, which would only then validate your ascertation that "no one invited me." Now answer my question legibly like MJB did or restrain your self from blatantly inflammatory remarks such as this.







C*nt :tongue_smilie:

Gino, once again pal, on your bike.:001_rolleyes: :001_rolleyes:

[Gino Ginelli]

Gino (and all), I apologise, I realise that my behaviour of asking open yet obviously baiting questions on a forum to get responses that I then only like to reply to with personal attacks (see Choda/Turkish/Milo etc etc) is purposefully inflammatory. From now on I shall actually participate like everyone else and actually respond with genuine reasoning and discussion as opposed to a very unique and devious form of troll. Thank you:

Fixed it for you :closedeyes:

[Shuggie13]

I'm not actually sure what peter is getting slated for here. I think this started because you (Gino) asked why peter asked such a question on a forum, mjb answered it for you and to be frank peter doesn't need to justify his thread. If no one like it, no one would reply.

It's a good thread he started and opened an interesting debate. The two of you evidently have a bit of history and maybe it would be best that you sorted it out in PM's.

[peterc]

Fixed it for you :closedeyes:

Gino, it seems that you either are having a bad day or maybe feeling down, whatever it is, this is football forum, Spurs is always a priority, however, no forum rules state that no other teams or managers are to be mentioned. It seems you are the only one on this forum, so far, who has objected to such a thread, others who might not agree with it have decided to ignore it. Wonder why you have to be so different.:001_smile: :thumbdown:

[Gino Ginelli]

Was not objecting, asked a valid question, and the initial manner of the thread came across as snyde to me. MJB answered my question, well judged and calm, and that was that. I did not appreciate your very dismissive and smug response, but I answered with a genuine thought out reply that defended my status. The final word, as indicated by the addition of the cheeky tongue, was a joke; banter between to posters to show no animosity. You refused to acknowledge, and merely reiterated your statement with further dismissive "rolly-eyes". I am not the one being objectional, you seem to react to every direct reply to you as a personal attack.

For your satisfaction, I think that Benitez has proved himself as a genuinly knowledgeable footbal brain in Europe and after a few years, the Premiership as well. His tactics are almost second to none. He is definately a defensive minded coach, having only had 2 attacking players on his books that can say to have had any success (Torres and Crouch) and only in their cases because they pretty much take of themselves (Crouch from the benefit of being an unplayably lanky freak of nature, Torres by the benefit of being awesome). Kuyt is a success there but only as he's developed into a right winger. I would say his weakness is that of judgement, both of players and opposition, especially teams in the bottom half, and his very reactionary nature in press-conferences. I would still predict that Liverpool will end up finishing behind Chelsea, as acroos the board the Pikeys have more depth and strength across the squad, whereas Liverpool, despite a spine of Carragher / Gerrard / Torres that most of Europe would die for, they have limitations in the rest of the pitch.

Cheers, and when you give me an analysis/reply/whatever that offers similar depth, consideration and composure, I'll stop regarding you as a troll. Thanks.

Peace out :cool:

[peterc]

Was not objecting, asked a valid question, and the initial manner of the thread came across as snyde to me. MJB answered my question, well judged and calm, and that was that. I did not appreciate your very dismissive and smug response, but I answered with a genuine thought out reply that defended my status. The final word, as indicated by the addition of the cheeky tongue, was a joke; banter between to posters to show no animosity. You refused to acknowledge, and merely reiterated your statement with further dismissive "rolly-eyes". I am not the one being objectional, you seem to react to every direct reply to you as a personal attack.

For your satisfaction, I think that Benitez has proved himself as a genuinly knowledgeable footbal brain in Europe and after a few years, the Premiership as well. His tactics are almost second to none. He is definately a defensive minded coach, having only had 2 attacking players on his books that can say to have had any success (Torres and Crouch) and only in their cases because they pretty much take of themselves (Crouch from the benefit of being an unplayably lanky freak of nature, Torres by the benefit of being awesome). Kuyt is a success there but only as he's developed into a right winger. I would say his weakness is that of judgement, both of players and opposition, especially teams in the bottom half, and his very reactionary nature in press-conferences. I would still predict that Liverpool will end up finishing behind Chelsea, as acroos the board the Pikeys have more depth and strength across the squad, whereas Liverpool, despite a spine of Carragher / Gerrard / Torres that most of Europe would die for, they have limitations in the rest of the pitch.

Cheers, and when you give me an analysis/reply/whatever that offers similar depth, consideration and composure, I'll stop regarding you as a troll. Thanks.

Peace out :cool:

Gino, I only did those roller eyes as a joke, I never was offended by you calling me a C--t. The funny thing is that someone else also thought that you were slating me off for no reason. As regards to your in depth answer to the question I oriiginally asked, I find it very interesting and factual. I am one who tends to highlight my points and not one to go into depth unless I find it necessary to do so, that does not make one a troll. :001_smile:.:cool

[gomessi]

Thanks rojo for the correction, you are right about Alonso and Masch, in fact when Torres and Gerrard were both out they kept the side ticking over.

Milo I think knocked the nail on the head, Rafa would make an excellent national coach.

I am pleased we are having this debate all aspects of football should be discussed and we shouldn't be so insular and only concentrate on Spurs.

PM's should stay in PM's. They are used as a function to discuss things sometimes that people do not want to make public.

lol shuggie that was me who said that- you're mixing me up with rojo

"mascherano and alonso have also been excellent this season."

agree with yoyu aboput discussing all football related matters.
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[TURKISH]

Thanks rojo for the correction, you are right about Alonso and Masch, in fact when Torres and Gerrard were both out they kept the side ticking over.

Milo I think knocked the nail on the head, Rafa would make an excellent national coach.

I am pleased we are having this debate all aspects of football should be discussed and we shouldn't be so insular and only concentrate on Spurs.

PM's should stay in PM's. They are used as a function to discuss things sometimes that people do not want to make public.

You would assume that Chonan Keating understood that pm mean PRIVATE MESSAGE.:001_rolleyes: But I suppose life is a rollercoaster to him..

[mjbmedia]

You would assume that Chonan Keating ..lmao :lol:

[Rojoknapp]

lol shuggie that was me who said that- you're mixing me up with rojo

"mascherano and alonso have also been excellent this season."

agree with yoyu aboput discussing all football related matters.
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:lol: I was thinking as I read that post that I couldn't remember for the life of me what I'd said about Alonso and Mascherano :tongue_smilie:

Nearly got away with that one :laugh:

[earl warwick]

lmao :lol:

Which is better? Chono or Chonan Keating? I think Chonan.

Chonan Keating, man with voice of a rapist. :scared:

[TURKISH]

Which is better? Chono or Chonan Keating? I think Chonan.

Chonan Keating, man with voice of a rapist. :scared:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/littleronanFOCUS_468x646.jpg

[berbzy 'G']

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/littleronanFOCUS_468x646.jpg

hastings in grey... really is not his colour :001_rolleyes:

[mjbmedia]

jeez who's the Peter Crouch lookalike with him?
and they could have got Chonan some proper legs! Is it an irish thing me thinks , too much guiness rots the shins!

[Shuggie13]

Okay, lets deal with this one at a time....

1) Apologies JS, my bad, there was no mention of biology in the post I was replying to so by the point I actually typed it I automatically thought it was rojo.

2) Chonan Keating, PMSL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumbup:

3) Chonan looks about 3 feet tall, talk about being set up for obvious Leprechaun jokes.

[TURKISH]

Okay, lets deal with this one at a time....

1) Apologies JS, my bad, there was no mention of biology in the post I was replying to so by the point I actually typed it I automatically thought it was rojo.

2) Chonan Keating, PMSL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumbup:

3) Chonan looks about 3 feet tall, talk about being set up for obvious Leprechaun jokes.

If your not fast your last, Chonan thought his turk kuyt was unstoppable. So I ethered him with choda benitez, then someone said Chono and then I thought of Chonan Keating. So don't fight it, life is a rollercoaster you just got to ride it........:001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1:

Its paddys day so Chonan is most likely blowing up dolls to keep him company and resiting shakespeare!:tongue_smilie:

[Shuggie13]

If your not fast your last, Chonan thought his turk kuyt was unstoppable. So I ethered him with choda benitez, then someone said Chono and then I thought of Chonan Keating. So don't fight it, life is a rollercoaster you just got to ride it........:001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1:

Its paddys day so Chonan is most likely blowing up dolls to keep him company and resiting shakespeare!:tongue_smilie:

I think you will find that I coined Chono. Without me you would not have had the inspiration for Chonan Keating.

In fact Chonan Keating is old, his new one is........
































Chonan The Barbarian

[Shuggie13]

or

Chonan The Librarian

[choda]

Ronan Keating, not happy, not happy at all.

[choda]

who cares about petty things, im just putting someone on ignore again for now.

Well stop acting like a big girl's blouse then and getting upset over petty shit, trying to start arguments. RELAX. :thumbup:

[peterc]

Well stop acting like a big girl's blouse then and getting upset over petty shit, trying to start arguments. RELAX. :thumbup:


Oh Choda, Choda ,Choda................................

[choda]

Oh Choda, Choda ,Choda................................

Careful Peter, this was the dickhead behaviour, (singling people out, trying to start arguments, sheer pettiness) that almost got you banned before.

[peterc]

Careful Peter, this was the dickhead behaviour, (singling people out, trying to start arguments, sheer pettiness) that almost got you banned before.

And where did you get that idea from Choda?, I was not nearly banned , so please stop inventing things. Seems you have been given a hard time recently, one wonders why??,:001_smile:

[choda]

And where did you get that idea from Choda?, I was not nearly banned , so please stop inventing things. Seems you have been given a hard time recently, one wonders why??,:001_smile:

Who's giving me a hard time?

You and mjb, is it? :001_rolleyes:

I stand up to toolish and bully behaviour, getting criticised by those people means little to me.

[peterc]

Who's giving me a hard time?

You and mjb, is it? :001_rolleyes:

I stand up to toolish and bully behaviour, getting criticised by those people means little to me.

Noticed you quickly dodged my queston there mate. Anyway, Choda, hope you had an enjoyable St Patricks Day.

[choda]

Noticed you quickly dodged my queston there mate. Anyway, Choda, hope you had an enjoyable St Patricks Day.

It could have easily gathered force if some of the members forced it through. I for one was not forceful on the matter. My problem is with some of your behaviour when it happens not with you until you start acting like a troll.

[peterc]

It could have easily gathered force if some of the members forced it through. I for one was not forceful on the matter. My problem is with some of your behaviour when it happens not with you until you start acting like a troll.

I understand the total was four members who might have agreed to the famous so called "petition". Choda, we all take the micky, at times we tend to take certain matters to heart. I am definitely not perfect and I don't think that anyone who participates on any forum would be. I am also a donator like you are and that does not give us any preferences above others.

[TURKISH]

http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/spring/troll.jpg

[mjbmedia]

thats weird colour hair for a leprechaun!

[Gino Ginelli]

thats weird colour hair for a leprechaun!

Its a troll...

[peterc]

http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/spring/troll.jpg


Hey Turkish, stop winding up Mr Chonan.:wink:

[mjbmedia]

Its a troll...
its sarcasm...... i know thanks

[choda]

thats weird colour hair for a leprechaun!

Thanks pal, that's more like the old mjb, an old geezer that's a good laugh.

[TURKISH]

its sarcasm...... i know thanks

I knew what you meant.:001_smile:

If your not fast your last.

[peterc]

So far, with 44 minutes gone Liverpool are hammering Villa 3-0.

[choda]

So far, with 44 minutes gone Liverpool are hammering Villa 3-0.

What's your point? :tongue_smilie: He could be way out in front if he hadn't done his weird Rafa shit with Keane and other things. It will some achievement if he catches united because he tried to shoot himself in the foot repeatedly.

It's actually more likely that he thrashes a big team the way he sets his teams up to break.

He is an amazing coach when it comes to off the ball work and organisation, just too conservative with inferior opposition in team selection, not enough measured passing and doesn't buy enough quality match winners to be consistent in opening teams up when required.

And messed about and sold a proven quality striker which was really silly considering they are only four behind united. I said they'd win the league in November because I thought Keane would make the extra bit of difference to them.

Now it would be amazing, but they are making a fist of it so fair play to them. I'd love to see them do it.

[mjbmedia]

no dont want scousers to do it, their gonna be full enough of themselves cos of the Hillboruogh anniversary (YAWN) , dont want to give the tossers anything else to bore us over.

[peterc]

No point really to prove mate. A bit embarrassing for Villa, now trailing 5-0 and Freidel sent off.:blushing: :blushing: :blushing: :blushing: :blushing:

[peterc]

Sh*t, Manchester City won 1-0 and we are now 11th.