This Tottenham team are the worst I've seen

[Spur]

The football we play is terrible, atrocious even. We can't score at home for love nor money. Can't beat ten men. Can't even outplay ten men.

We're a smash and grab team. Only thing with us is we can't smash anything and don't grab anything.

I see better attacking from worse teams. The way we're set out is devoid of any intellect. No confidence from the players moves over to the fans. The games I've been to this year the fans have only ever been apprehensive.

Big changes aren't welcome but are they necessary? Big changes doesn't mean to say lots of changes, but big changes. Big players need to come in, and that doesn't mean big reputations or big transfer fees. Let's face it, we can't pull big reps or big fee's out the bag anyway, they all fail miserably.

Sunday was one of the few times this year the players showed anything. They have been embarrassing all season.

[MiloMinderbinder]

You haven't seen some of the dross some of us have had to put up with. ALl I am going to say is; Jason Dozzell.

[Spur]

You haven't seen some of the dross some of us have had to put up with. ALl I am going to say is; Jason Dozzell.

This is true.

I'm only a nipper @ 21.

[Ginola's Son]

****in hell Spur, where did THAT come from.

This is not the time for such talk.

[berbzy 'G']

I agree with Spur. We are appauling, We struggle on the pitch all the time, its almost as if when the game starts we try and hang on. We are bad on the counter attack I noticed this season too. Not to mention taking set pieces as well as handling them against us. Lets not kid ourselves

[Ginola's Son]

Whats the point in saying that after we've come off such a good performance, we can't get those bad performances back and improve the, the point is we stopped Man U from scoring for 2 hours...surely we can transfer that into the league and beat teams. We proved we can do it. The Ramos effect has lingered over the club long after his departure, now its beginning to fade.

[berbzy 'G']

Whats the point in saying that after we've come off such a good performance, we can't get those bad performances back and improve the, the point is we stopped Man U from scoring for 2 hours...surely we can transfer that into the league and beat teams. We proved we can do it. The Ramos effect has lingered over the club long after his departure, now its beginning to fade.

Thats what I thought after we beat West Ham 2-0. But we got worse

[Ginola's Son]

Nah, not really.

[gomessi]

Blaming ramos again?!

yep it was a ****ing disgrace at the start but after getting 16 points from 8 games why have we turned to shit again.

Ramos has just had the best start for a real madrid manager in their entire history. 10 wins 1 defeat.

So he is a **** in tottenham and a god in madrid. Some balance is needed here and it would seem the pleayers are more to blame.

Before Ramos MJ got the sack after obtaining 7 points from 11 and he finished 5th the previuos2 seasons. Now second in the bundesliga would suggest he is hardly the worst manager in the world.

Imagine if Ramos and Jol both win the league bet everyone will still be going on like a broken record player. That Ramos is shit :sleep: :001_rolleyes:

[Ginola's Son]

You're the ****ing broken record cos you ain't gonna be satisfied unless we win the treble whilst never losing a single game for the rest of your natural life.

[MiloMinderbinder]

You're the ****ing broken record cos you ain't gonna be satisfied unless we win the treble whilst never losing a single game for the rest of your natural life.

I fail to see why is so reprehensible an ambition. I wouldn't complain (apart from having nothing to compalin about).

[Ginola's Son]

Cos we aren't Manchester United.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Cos we aren't Manchester United.

You do know that success does not corroloate with evil?

[Ginola's Son]

Then don't wish success upon us.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Then don't wish success upon us.

Doesn't, does not, not. I wish us every possible success including finding the elixir.

[Rojoknapp]

Bloody hell. Does Turkish need to pull out Harry's points per game average again? We're not shit! We're not great either, but, as I say, with Harry's points per game we would be 7th, 3 points behind Everton, and going into today's game full of optimism. I wish people would stop going on about how bad we are and face the facts. We're not that bad. Our away form is dreadful, yes. Set pieces, also dreadful. But I know that I have more hope for:

Gomes
Corluka
Dawson
Woodgate
Assou-Ekotto
Lennon
Modric
Palacios
Bale
Keane
Defoe

than I would if we still had the likes of:

Keller
Carr
Doherty
Gardner
Tarricco
Ricketts
Jackson (:scared: )
Freund
Etherington
Ferdinand (in fairness, he was ok, but no Defoe or Keane)
Iversen

Patience people. People moan at our chairman because we see Everton and Villa having patience, but then we moan rather than looking at the progress we have made. And yes, we have taken steps backwards. But we're going forwards again now, so, frustrating though it is, we have to be patient again. That's sort of the whole point of patience. You've got to wait.

[gomessi]

So progress is finishing 5th twice fighting relegation and then happy with 7th :scared:

[peterc]

The problem with quite a few of our supporters/fans is that we tend to expect too much, too soon. One must not forget that Ramos and Co had a wholesale clearout seven months ago, we also have had a change in management. Does one not think that all these changes have not affected the team's confidence?. I do. Arry has been through one transfer window, and that being the most difficult one to bring in decent players at decent prices. I personally think that he did well considering the lack of players available. Some might argue that we should have gone for the likes of Arshavin, reports on sky sports website, stating that he is finding it quite tough in the premiership, were we in a position to take that risk?. I don't think so. We all expected to do well this season and we never expected to be fighting the drop. I am confident that Arry will bring another two to three players next season and I'm confident that we will challenge for the top six. COYS.

[peterc]

So progress is finishing 5th twice fighting relegation and then happy with 7th :scared:

JS, remember Rome was not built in one day. We won't be top four material for at least two more season, depending if we stick to the same management and also depends if and when the club is owned by new owners.

[choda]

It's not fair comment or accurate to say that. The squad is mish mash but can play some great stuff at times. Harry's made this a top seven side and that's essentially before some big additions and we expect three big ones in the summer. Big as in good and desperately required, as opposed to necessarily buying a big name.

It is shaping up but it takes time.

I saw us lose at the lane to united back in 1997 or so. Now that was a shit side for a club like Tottenham, Vega, Edinborough etc. and had an average coach. I count my blessings we at least have a smattering of geniune talent and if it is supplemented, managed properly it can even become a top side.

We have a very good manager that knows the English game. The extent of that doom and gloom is unnecessary and not accurate. The foundations are there and the money. 1997 was bleak and required a very ambitious and knowledgeable chairman to build over 5-10 so we'd even have a chance of putting this great club back where it should be.

Now, we do have that chance, things have gone pear shaped due to bad manager decisions and such but the raw materials are still there. The manager just has to sort out the imbalances in the squad, weak areas, groom a winning mentality and setup and put it all together. He is proven and knows english football and seems to be doing exactly what is needed and planning to do the rest when he can.

I'm optimistic.

By the way it is hard to attack when you play Zokora and Jenas who can't play quality build up consistently and be creative even in an understated way.

And you can't expect to be great when your strikers are horrible in general play. But yet you don't see why Keane is better than Defoe. Palacious and Keane or esque signings were some of the crucial elements we needed and he's done that bit. Harry knows what he is at and more are to come.

[TURKISH]

This is true.

I'm only a nipper @ 21.

I'm 20 and imo we have had worse teams, one of the worse seasons but not the worse team.

The squad we have shits all over the teams in the early 2000's.

[mjbmedia]

Spur I totally agree, watching us play this season (albiet on the PC and TV) has been ****ing dire beyond belief.
I really dont give a flying **** in many of the games cos we're so nondescript.
Even Sunday i didnt give a shit whether we won or lost the penalty shoot out, the fact we just gave up on two cup competitions (especially europe) really ****ed me off, for whateve reasons we done it, the fact is those reasons were all self induced, shit league position, poor fitness even though the players were rested they still got cramp and were walking wounded at the end, happily taking the TV money then moaning that we have a Monday night game, not rewarding some who had an efect on Thursdays game with even a place on the bench meaning we had little creativity to bring on.
Who gives a **** that Harrys points average would see us 8th , we aint 8th so it dont mean a thing.
It isnt Harry so much, its the whole ****ing club.
I find it impossible to get excited over a game when winning may mean we climb to 16th or something, whoppee, whilst obviously i dont want us to go down so the three points are important, its nowhere near as exciting as challenging for Europe spot.
We had enough dross over the last 20+ years , especially league wise, the last two league seasons have also been dull boring dross and im totally ****ed off with it.
Im just glad i didnt waste money on a season ticket.
Next season as always we hope for better things, im sure Harry will do them, i just hope that he also gets us playing more interesting football

[Shelfside]

You haven't seen some of the dross some of us have had to put up with. ALl I am going to say is; Jason Dozzell.

The 93-94 season with Dozzell,Rosenthal and a 58 year old Mickey Hazard was the lowest of many lows with Tottenham.That season saw us candidates for relegation up until the penultimate game when we won 2-0 at Oldham.
As shite as this current side is,there have been even worse ones.

[singapore spur]

we have had much worse squads (i started going to the lane in 74 ) but would agree that some of our performances this season have been up with the worst i can remember , devoid of skill ,organisation , passion and desire , this includes our relegation year .
but i see some small shoots of recovery .

[Rojoknapp]

So progress is finishing 5th twice fighting relegation and then happy with 7th :scared:

FFS, didn't I say that I knew we'd taken a step backwards? Obviously, I was talking about progress from a few years ago, I even listed two differing line-ups from differing eras to help you out.

[Rojoknapp]

Spur I totally agree, watching us play this season (albiet on the PC and TV) has been ****ing dire beyond belief.
I really dont give a flying **** in many of the games cos we're so nondescript.
Even Sunday i didnt give a shit whether we won or lost the penalty shoot out, the fact we just gave up on two cup competitions (especially europe) really ****ed me off, for whateve reasons we done it, the fact is those reasons were all self induced, shit league position, poor fitness even though the players were rested they still got cramp and were walking wounded at the end, happily taking the TV money then moaning that we have a Monday night game, not rewarding some who had an efect on Thursdays game with even a place on the bench meaning we had little creativity to bring on.
Who gives a **** that Harrys points average would see us 8th , we aint 8th so it dont mean a thing.
It isnt Harry so much, its the whole ****ing club.
I find it impossible to get excited over a game when winning may mean we climb to 16th or something, whoppee, whilst obviously i dont want us to go down so the three points are important, its nowhere near as exciting as challenging for Europe spot.
We had enough dross over the last 20+ years , especially league wise, the last two league seasons have also been dull boring dross and im totally ****ed off with it.
Im just glad i didnt waste money on a season ticket.
Next season as always we hope for better things, im sure Harry will do them, i just hope that he also gets us playing more interesting football

Your posts are much more depressing and boring than Spurs. We know you hate Harry. We know you love Gio. We know you're pissed off about the UEFA cup, and then you say you didn't care about the Carling Cup? Post something new - all of your posts in the past few weeks have just been ranting about the same old themes.

[JuicE]

Crock of Sh!T!!!

We are the best team in the whole widey worldy!!!! :001_smile:

[mjbmedia]

Your posts are much more depressing and boring than Spurs. We know you hate Harry. We know you love Gio. We know you're pissed off about the UEFA cup, and then you say you didn't care about the Carling Cup? Post something new - all of your posts in the past few weeks have just been ranting about the same old themes.

So im not allowed to say things as i see them yet all the others on here can keep saying the same things after every game and thats ok cos you agree with them.

If we had performances like last nights on a more consistent basis, then this thread would not have appeared and my posts wouldnt be like they are, but we dont so this thread is here and my posts are like they are until that changes.
Whislt some kids on here may be happy with what weve witnessed this season., most longer term supporters are once again ****ed off at another lost chance to build on what we did have

[Apples]

So im not allowed to say things as i see them yet all the others on here can keep saying the same things after every game and thats ok cos you agree with them.

If we had performances like last nights on a more consistent basis, then this thread would not have appeared and my posts wouldnt be like they are, but we dont so this thread is here and my posts are like they are until that changes.
Whislt some kids on here may be happy with what weve witnessed this season., most longer term supporters are once again ****ed off at another lost chance to build on what we did have

Well to be honest I've had enough of people slating Harry it's the same old when we had Jol and now most who wrote Jol off are saying "why did we get rid of him"!!!

I think at long last you can see a promising team - our midfield is looking much better and we have a serious threat with Modric Lennon and Keane.

Palacious is very good at holding but not at his best last night....

I don't know why I'm going on!!! But I agree its been a terrible season but look at the positives under Harry when you look at what he walked into!!!!!!!

[peterc]

Well to be honest I've had enough of people slating Harry it's the same old when we had Jol and now most who wrote Jol off are saying "why did we get rid of him"!!!

I think at long last you can see a promising team - our midfield is looking much better and we have a serious threat with Modric Lennon and Keane.

Palacious is very good at holding but not at his best last night....

I don't know why I'm going on!!! But I agree its been a terrible season but look at the positives under Harry when you look at what he walked into!!!!!!!

Hear, hear.

[mjbmedia]

Well to be honest I've had enough of people slating Harry it's the same old when we had Jol and now most who wrote Jol off are saying "why did we get rid of him"!!!

I think at long last you can see a promising team - our midfield is looking much better and we have a serious threat with Modric Lennon and Keane.

Palacious is very good at holding but not at his best last night....

I don't know why I'm going on!!! But I agree its been a terrible season but look at the positives under Harry when you look at what he walked into!!!!!!!
yeh i agree with you there, but our recent run doesnt deserve any eulogisms like it seems to be getting from some parties, and thats their views and I respect that, but others views that are less positive should also be respected.
Its still all we've got to play for is survival which is thrilling.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Spur I totally agree, watching us play this season (albiet on the PC and TV) has been ****ing dire beyond belief.
I really dont give a flying **** in many of the games cos we're so nondescript.
Even Sunday i didnt give a shit whether we won or lost the penalty shoot out, the fact we just gave up on two cup competitions (especially europe) really ****ed me off, for whateve reasons we done it, the fact is those reasons were all self induced, shit league position, poor fitness even though the players were rested they still got cramp and were walking wounded at the end, happily taking the TV money then moaning that we have a Monday night game, not rewarding some who had an efect on Thursdays game with even a place on the bench meaning we had little creativity to bring on.
Who gives a **** that Harrys points average would see us 8th , we aint 8th so it dont mean a thing.
It isnt Harry so much, its the whole ****ing club.
I find it impossible to get excited over a game when winning may mean we climb to 16th or something, whoppee, whilst obviously i dont want us to go down so the three points are important, its nowhere near as exciting as challenging for Europe spot.
We had enough dross over the last 20+ years , especially league wise, the last two league seasons have also been dull boring dross and im totally ****ed off with it.
Im just glad i didnt waste money on a season ticket.
Next season as always we hope for better things, im sure Harry will do them, i just hope that he also gets us playing more interesting football

You can do what others do if you don't like it and go and support Man U. One of the things about supporting Spurs is taking the rough with the smooth ans still being thankful that you support the classiest club in the country. It's character forming.

[MiloMinderbinder]

The 93-94 season with Dozzell,Rosenthal and a 58 year old Mickey Hazard was the lowest of many lows with Tottenham.That season saw us candidates for relegation up until the penultimate game when we won 2-0 at Oldham.
As shite as this current side is,there have been even worse ones.

What about V Sideways, who went on to become the most ill disciplined player in the Spanish top flight. At least we had David Howells in those days, talk about Spurs through and through.

[mjbmedia]

You can do what others do if you don't like it and go and support Man U. One of the things about supporting Spurs is taking the rough with the smooth ans still being thankful that you support the classiest club in the country. It's character forming.
well it clearly hasnt worked for you
dont lecture me what supporting Spurs is about like im some teenager, id just like a lot more smooth as weve had 17 seasons of rough out of the last 20

[MiloMinderbinder]

well it clearly hasnt worked for you
dont lecture me what supporting Spurs is about like im some teenager, id just like a lot more smooth as weve had 17 seasons of rough out of the last 20

I like you're come back :001_smile:

Not lecturing you I'm just saying remember why supporting Spurs is such good fun, just when you think it's all gone black the sun rises in our world again and another (false) dawn is upon us. What other clubs would have the nerve to play players like Modric alongside such talent as Bent.

[Spur]

Doesn't yesterday sum up how bad we've been this season?

We've been bad. Very bad. After the Arsenal game I said we deserved to go down. Could yesterday be a turning point? Nah, we had yesterday against Stoke a month or two back didn't we? False optimism.

The coming transfer window is extremely important. But before that, we still need to go on a little run of victories to ensure survival.

[Welsh Spur]

Doesn't yesterday sum up how bad we've been this season?

We've been bad. Very bad. After the Arsenal game I said we deserved to go down. Could yesterday be a turning point? Nah, we had yesterday against Stoke a month or two back didn't we? False optimism.

The coming transfer window is extremely important. But before that, we still need to go on a little run of victories to ensure survival.

Starting with Sunderland after the FA Cup weekend. 2 weeks (ish) to prepare. There's no excuse not to perform.

[mjbmedia]

Starting with Sunderland after the FA Cup weekend. 2 weeks (ish) to prepare. There's no excuse not to perform.
nope, Sunderland is this Saturday

[mjbmedia]

I like you're come back :001_smile:

Not lecturing you I'm just saying remember why supporting Spurs is such good fun, just when you think it's all gone black the sun rises in our world again and another (false) dawn is upon us. What other clubs would have the nerve to play players like Modric alongside such talent as Bent.
haha yeh i got you . weve had nearly a years worth of false dawns in my time and three sunny days

[Rojoknapp]

So im not allowed to say things as i see them yet all the others on here can keep saying the same things after every game and thats ok cos you agree with them.

If we had performances like last nights on a more consistent basis, then this thread would not have appeared and my posts wouldnt be like they are, but we dont so this thread is here and my posts are like they are until that changes.
Whislt some kids on here may be happy with what weve witnessed this season., most longer term supporters are once again ****ed off at another lost chance to build on what we did have

Say what you want, just don't keep repeating it over and over. And while I may be younger than you, 16 is old enough to be frustrated with Tottenham's consistent underachievement, believe me. In my lifetime, I've seen two 5th place finishes, two league cups, and two league cup runner up positions. That's how much of "Glory" Tottenham Hotspur I've seen in my life. I hate it as much as you - we all do.

[Gino Ginelli]

Say what you want, just don't keep repeating it over and over. And while I may be younger than you, 16 is old enough to be frustrated with Tottenham's consistent underachievement, believe me. In my lifetime, I've seen two 5th place finishes, two league cups, and two league cup runner up positions. That's how much of "Glory" Tottenham Hotspur I've seen in my life. I hate it as much as you - we all do.

TBF mate, I've been a Spurs supporter since '87 and in that time I've only seen the same, albeit with an FA Cup and a now mythical 3rd place finish back in 1990. By all accounts you've seen the glory days compared to most of us! :wink:

[wayne wonder]

Im not getting carried away with last night because knowing us we'll mess it up saturday nothing ever goes right in the spurs soap opera but i wouldn't have it any other way trust me :001_smile:

[wayne wonder]

TBF mate, I've been a Spurs supporter since '87 and in that time I've only seen the same, albeit with an FA Cup and a now mythical 3rd place finish back in 1990. By all accounts you've seen the glory days compared to most of us! :wink:

I started being a fan in 85 or 86 before then i actually flirted with west ham because i liked cottee and mcavenie#(close shave eh:thumbdown: )

[Gino Ginelli]

I started being a fan in 85 or 86 before then i actually flirted with west ham because i liked cottee and mcavenie#(close shave eh:thumbdown: )

:scared::scared:

The folly of youth huh? It was only ever going to be Spurs for me as it was Hoddle that made me fall in love with the game in the first place :biggrin:

[mjbmedia]

Rojo mate. youve had it easy, lets be honest unlikely you started really supporting them or understanding it til you were say 5 so since 97/98 season to present day.
A walk in the park me laddo :001_smile:

Ive got more than two of your entire lifetimes in my support of Spurs so I think i'm entitled to be somewhat more peeved off as in all that time as GG says theres been a 3rd place in the old First Division getting us UEFA and an FA Cup win in 91 getting us a Cup winners Cup run.

but seriously im not saying that cos of that my support is any better than yours, its not. Its just we've had more false dawns than youve had seasons

[wayne wonder]

:scared::scared:

The folly of youth huh? It was only ever going to be Spurs for me as it was Hoddle that made me fall in love with the game in the first place :biggrin:

Mate i tell ya it was a close call it was because they scored loads of goals then my cousin sorted me out and said has to be spurs!!!

[earl warwick]

Rojo mate. youve had it easy, lets be honest unlikely you started really supporting them or understanding it til you were say 5 so since 97/98 season to present day.
A walk in the park me laddo :001_smile:

Ive got more than two of your entire lifetimes in my support of Spurs so I think i'm entitled to be somewhat more peeved off as in all that time as GG says theres been a 3rd place in the old First Division getting us UEFA and an FA Cup win in 91 getting us a Cup winners Cup run.

but seriously im not saying that cos of that my support is any better than yours, its not. Its just we've had more false dawns than youve had seasons
As far as I can remember it didn't, as English clubs were still banned from Europe.

[Welsh Spur]

nope, Sunderland is this Saturday

My bad....I'm getting ahead of myself with time....must be due to my high level of organisation lol.....:blushing:

[mjbmedia]

As far as I can remember it didn't, as English clubs were still banned from Europe.
yeh youre right thanks to the scousers being ****s again.
and in 91-92 we had Feyernoord bastards :cursing: :cursing: :angry: :angry: and promptly lost to the c*nts thanks to Paul Allen messing about near his own goal

[Gino Ginelli]

yeh youre right thanks to the scousers being ****s again.
and in 91-92 we had Feyernoord bastards :cursing: :cursing: :angry: :angry: and promptly lost to the c*nts thanks to Paul Allen messing about near his own goal

:crying: :crying:

[wayne wonder]

:crying: :crying:

All i know is that in 1987 when we lost the cup ive never cried so much it was only on par with lasagne gate me thinks

[berbzy 'G']

All i know is that in 1987 when we lost the cup ive never cried so much it was only on par with lasagne gate me thinks

I was in tears after the lasagne incident and the vile c*nts getting fourth spot.

ffs, If we just be West Ham that f*cking day, then by now we would of been able to attract more world class players to the club... We would be up there with Chelsea and Liverpool. Just that 90 minutes we could of won in the 2005/06 season

[choda]

I like you're come back :001_smile:

Not lecturing you I'm just saying remember why supporting Spurs is such good fun, just when you think it's all gone black the sun rises in our world again and another (false) dawn is upon us. What other clubs would have the nerve to play players like Modric alongside such talent as Bent.

RALMAO. That's classic spurs.

[Baleinho]

Its never a dull moment supporting Spurs.

And I wouldnt have it any other way..... :001_rolleyes:

[Gino Ginelli]

I was in tears after the lasagne incident and the vile c*nts getting fourth spot.

ffs, If we just be West Ham that f*cking day, then by now we would of been able to attract more world class players to the club... We would be up there with Chelsea and Liverpool. Just that 90 minutes we could of won in the 2005/06 season

I swear David Dein swapped the mozzarella for 2 year out of date pecorino. The ****! :cursing:

[SurreySpur]

The worst spurs side i ever saw was one that played at Portman Road against a very average ipswich side, i cant remember the exact side although i remember Willem Korsten put in one of the owrst displays ive ever witnessed!! Made Dozzell look like Maradona!! I think we lost 0-3.

[Apples]

The worst spurs side i ever saw was one that played at Portman Road against a very average ipswich side, i cant remember the exact side although i remember Willem Korsten put in one of the owrst displays ive ever witnessed!! Made Dozzell look like Maradona!! I think we lost 0-3.

I went that game horrid