Match Thread: Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[jrio]

ITV won't win that's for sure! Ho ho ho.

Another game with that cretin Alnwick. Get on the blower to Hoddle, played a blinder at OT in the 1980 win. Other than that, get Sandra to pick a goalie who isn't a complete arsehole.

FFS. Fans who've paid through the nose to attend the game and it's over before it's even begun.

[gomessi]

ITV won't win that's for sure! Ho ho ho.

Another game with that cretin Alnwick. Get on the blower to Hoddle, played a blinder at OT in the 1980 win. Other than that, get Sandra to pick a goalie who isn't a complete arsehole.

FFS. Fans who've paid through the nose to attend the game and it's over before it's even begun.

is there anyone else that could go in goal. if that ****** is in goal we might as well not bother.

Could any of our outfield players play goalie thats how desperate i am. **** sake this is embaressing :cursing:

who could do a hoddle?

[TURKISH]

is there anyone else that could go in goal. if that ****** is in goal we might as well not bother.

Could any of our outfield players play goalie thats how desperate i am. **** sake this is embaressing :cursing:

who could do a hoddle?

Apparently most fans think tom huddlestone is just like hoddle..

[jrio]

Apparently most fans think tom huddlestone is just like hoddle..
Glenn played in goal as a kid(and was pretty good), which is why he volunteered against United.

[TURKISH]

Glenn played in goal as a kid(and was pretty good), which is why he volunteered against United.

Glenn was just a genius.

[JuicE]

I really believe (Delusional) that if we go with the youngsters and let them go at it with a bit of fun and passion........................................... ............(we may only lose 5-0) we might have a chance against a very weakened Manu side expecting to win. Fuk, look at Burnley!!!! Anything can happen, it's a Funny Ol' Game! :001_smile:

[Ioang]

Nothing worse than 4-0 and i'm happy.

[SCIFIN17YID]

I really believe (Delusional) that if we go with the youngsters and let them go at it with a bit of fun and passion........................................... ............(we may only lose 5-0) we might have a chance against a very weakened Manu side expecting to win. Fuk, look at Burnley!!!! Anything can happen, it's a Funny Ol' Game! :001_smile:

You have a point hehe, but man I think when this game is played I will turn off my phone, i think we are going to get pwnt, but I would rather have another carling cup, then FA :D we got so many injurys and now this crap keeper, got to feel sorry for ben he will look even more shakier vs manu. for our young squad what team would you put out, in order to rest our strongest team ?

[JuicE]

Is Campbell allowed to play against Manu? Anyone know?

[SCIFIN17YID]

I highly doubt that will be allowed man unfortunately it would be sweet him smashing one in for us against them.

[Rojoknapp]

Campbell can't play vs Man U. Following the whole Tim Howard "gentleman's agreement" row, the loan rules changed and you can't play against the club loaning you out in any circumstances.

[LifeTimeYido]

Im expecting the dry bum raping of the season here - could be 4 or 5-0

We should get one of the youngsters to sacrifice his season and just target kicking Berbacnut for 90 mins. Then sparking him out after 90 mins.


Fair play JuicE - keep the faith.

[GQCoolest]

Will likely be an ass kicking, but stranger things have happened...

[peterc]

Although Arry has stated that he will be taking a "mish mash weakened team" to Old Trafford, I also expect Manure to field a weakened team too. 2-2 and more headaches for Arry with extra games.

[corkspur]

give hoddle a bell!! he went in goal 3 times for spurs,won 2 games against man utd and leeds!!! and drew the other one against norwich!! legend!!

[highlander]

ive gone for a draw purely because it means its another fixture we will have to fulfill which is probably worse than a defeat as it will be a further strain on the squad

[StevenYTID]

Shame we didn't go for that extra time option .

[singapore spur]

Although Arry has stated that he will be taking a "mish mash weakened team" to Old Trafford, I also expect Manure to field a weakened team too. 2-2 and more headaches for Arry with extra games.


a weakened man u beats a weakened spurs , feck it a weakened man u beats a strong spurs at the mom .

harry if he fecks with the team , as he said he will , might as well go the whole hog and start with all the fringe/reserve team

[MiloMinderbinder]

If the truth be known couldn't give a flying toss about this game. We'll lose but mainly because we want to. I'd like to see GDS and Tarrabt given a run out as well as Rocha. Shame we loaned out our youth tema keeper, may as well just play a drastic 4-5-2 formation, no point in playing the rapist.

[jrio]

From Harry's comments, I'd expect GDS, Taara and Rocha to start. Predicted line-ups:

ManU: VDS; Fletcher Neville Vidic O'Shea; Giggs Carrick Scholes Ron; Tevez Berba

Spurs: Alnwick; Gunter Rocha Dawson Bale; Taara Zokora Bentley GDS; Pav Defoe

[MiloMinderbinder]

From Harry's comments, I'd expect GDS, Taara and Rocha to start. Predicted line-ups:

ManU: VDS; Fletcher Neville Vidic O'Shea; Giggs Carrick Scholes Ron; Tevez Berba

Spurs: Alnwick; Gunter Rocha Dawson Bale; Taara Zokora Bentley GDS; Pav Defoe

Can't see Zokora playing, we'll need his combative qualities against Stoke, ditton Dawson ('arry has already said Daws wont play). I'd expect Bent up top by himself with Taarabt behind him. I'd like to see how Rocha does, I think he's been treated discracefully, an experienced international centre half who we could have shipped out a couple of times (Porto offered our money back last year) and yet is never given a chance despite being pretty solid IMO.

There's no way Defoe will play, it'll be him and Pav vs Stoke.

[TURKISH]

Can't see Zokora playing, we'll need his combative qualities against Stoke, ditton Dawson ('arry has already said Daws wont play). I'd expect Bent up top by himself with Taarabt behind him. I'd like to see how Rocha does, I think he's been treated discracefully, an experienced international centre half who we could have shipped out a couple of times (Porto offered our money back last year) and yet is never given a chance despite being pretty solid IMO.

There's no way Defoe will play, it'll be him and Pav vs Stoke.

Ive allways rated rocha to be fair, he only made one mistake in his time at spurs and that was against arsenal in the cc semi with that low header. I think he is a solid defender and i hope he impresses because he could be a bonus for us in the coming weeks.

I hope gio and taarabt play. I would rather gio behind defoe or pav maybe even bent.

[jrio]

Can't see Zokora playing, we'll need his combative qualities against Stoke, ditton Dawson ('arry has already said Daws wont play). I'd expect Bent up top by himself with Taarabt behind him. I'd like to see how Rocha does, I think he's been treated discracefully, an experienced international centre half who we could have shipped out a couple of times (Porto offered our money back last year) and yet is never given a chance despite being pretty solid IMO.

There's no way Defoe will play, it'll be him and Pav vs Stoke.
Bent's injured. Supposedly Harry's going to pick his strongest side availabe, so some of those players - Zokora/Daws/Defoe - will have to be in there.

[Rojoknapp]

He did say "weakest team possible" which could mean Obika rather than Defoe. It would be nice to see Dos Santos and Taarabt rotating between left wing and behind the striker, could be an interesting tactic as they can both play both positions, though ideally they both want to be in behind the striker.

[jrio]

He did say "weakest team possible" which could mean Obika rather than Defoe. It would be nice to see Dos Santos and Taarabt rotating between left wing and behind the striker, could be an interesting tactic as they can both play both positions, though ideally they both want to be in behind the striker.
He's backtracked on that, and now it's the strongest team available.

[Rojoknapp]

He's backtracked on that, and now it's the strongest team available.

I'm pretty sure he only backtracked for the FA's benefit, and I doubt we will see the strongest team available:

Gomes? (still injured?)
Corluka
Dawson
King/Woody
Assou-Ekotto
Lennon
Modric
Zokora
O'Hara
Pavlyuchenko
Defoe

I can't see him picking that team for a game in which we will probably be beaten no matter what team we send, and seeing as we've already booked a cup final.

[jrio]

I'm pretty sure he only backtracked for the FA's benefit, and I doubt we will see the strongest team available:

Gomes? (still injured?)
Corluka
Dawson
King/Woody
Assou-Ekotto
Lennon
Modric
Zokora
O'Hara
Pavlyuchenko
Defoe

I can't see him picking that team for a game in which we will probably be beaten no matter what team we send, and seeing as we've already booked a cup final.
Stongest team available. All in bold are injured. Modric is doubtful.

[choda]

I'd like to see Rocha, Taarby and Gio given a game.

[Rojoknapp]

Stongest team available. All in bold are injured. Modric is doubtful.

Oh yeah. I just completely forgot about our whole injury situation there :blushing:

[TURKISH]

from Archie on SO

sub goalkeper is Mirko Ranieri! 17 yrs old

Rocha and Gilberto play in back 4!

[irishspur]

Heres how we should line up

Alnwick
Gunter
Rocha
Zokora
Gilberto
Taraabt
Hudd
Bostock
Bale
Gio
Bent(or obika)

Put the likes of parret dervite and rose on the bench.

[matthius23]

from Archie on SO

sub goalkeper is Mirko Ranieri! 17 yrs old

Rocha and Gilberto play in back 4!

Why the **** would Gilberto want to play?? Arry has told him he's heading for the door, now he's asking him to play in the FA Cup against Manure??

[irishspur]

Why the **** would Gilberto want to play?? Arry has told him he's heading for the door, now he's asking him to play in the FA Cup against Manure??

Hes playing a very weak team and gilberto is very weak. I Dont think harry could care less about the FA cup id say hed nearly rather lose than draw because the injurys keep piling up.

[jrio]

Heres how we should line up

Alnwick
Gunter
Rocha
Zokora
Gilberto
Taraabt
Hudd
Bostock
Bale
Gio
Bent(or obika)

Put the likes of parret dervite and rose on the bench.
Both injured. Alnwick and Gilberto? I'm going to need a bottle of strong scotch to get through this game.

Squad for anyone else selecting their team is:

Alnwick, Ranieri, Gunter, Bale, Dawson, Dervite, Rocha, Zokora, Bentley, Huddlestone, Giovani, Gilberto, Modric, Taarabt, Assou-Ekotto, Pavlyuchenko, Defoe, Parrett, Bostock, Obika.

[StevenYTID]

4-5-2?
I don't even think 12 men on the field will help us today

[SurreySpur]

Not looking forward to this one at all!! Im completley pessimistic.

We could take a right beating this evening, im going to go 4-1 United.

[StevenYTID]

Harrys record against Manure is sublime we will win this.


*Lies to self*

[jrio]

Corluka, Bale and Pav in for Woody, JOH and Defoe.

[TURKISH]

Corluka, Bale and Pav in for Woody, JOH and Defoe.

Is gio up front with pav?

[TURKISH]

Alnwick, Gunter, Corluka, Dawson, BAE, Lennon, Huddlestone, Zokora, Bale, Modric, Pav.

Im gutted with this team i was looking forward to watching rocha, taarabt and gio starting. Harry talks bollocks about how four or five players who haven't played with start and how rocha is gonna start.:thumbdown: Don't bullshit us harry ffs.

[jrio]

Is gio up front with pav?
No.

SUBS - Gomes, Gilberto, Giovani, Taarabt, Defoe, Rocha, Dervite.

[hodgy]

tonight should be better suited to hudd, he will have more time on the ball tonight to pick his passes, i'm thinking he's gonna score a screamer,

[StevenYTID]

Haha nice trick Harry , mishmash my arse!

[denis-cro]

Pav is god !!!!!!!!!!

[GQCoolest]

Pav! Get ****ing In!

[singapore spur]

Alnwick, Gunter, Corluka, Dawson, BAE, Lennon, Huddlestone, Zokora, Bale, Modric, Pav.

Im gutted with this team i was looking forward to watching rocha, taarabt and gio starting. Harry talks bollocks about how four or five players who haven't played with start and how rocha is gonna start.:thumbdown: Don't bullshit us harry ffs.

agreed , im not one to dismiss the fa cup , im usually of the opinion that we should put our strongest team out , but........ forget that , GET IN :001_smile:

[StevenYTID]

Pavvy When Im Married You Can Shag My Wife.

[MarlowSpurs]

**** me, I'm stunned!!!!! We scored

[SCIFIN17YID]

Gol Gol Gol :) COYS !

[denis-cro]

Bentley is shit.... Hudd is too ****ing slow... BAE is ****ong useless....

[jrio]

Horrible to watch. Hope allied to Spurs playing well against a lacklustre United and Alnwick has just made a good save. Surprised how poor Scholes is, but I'll probably regret saying that.

[StevenYTID]

Bentley is shit.... Hudd is too ****ing slow... BAE is ****ong useless....

I hope you're taking the piss.

[GQCoolest]

Well, they're all over us as I expected, but we've somehow scored a goal, unlike I'd expected.

[jrio]

I hope you're taking the piss.
On BAE he must be. He looks really tuned in.

[jrio]

Welbeck looks the biggest threat. BAE handling him well.

[denis-cro]

Zokora ??? what was that FFS ??

[singapore spur]

getting battered really , but good save from ben , glad for him .

just a matter of time before tevez scores :sad:

[denis-cro]

Surprised how poor Scholes is, but I'll probably regret saying that.

well ... :blushing:

[StevenYTID]

Surprised how poor Scholes is, but I'll probably regret saying that.

Why dont anyone on here ever learn to shut their ****ing mouths?

[GQCoolest]

Of course they score off that lucky bullshit.

[denis-cro]

Hudd is so ****ing poor... he just let players passing by him... what a ****....

[GQCoolest]

Ugh, what was Corluka doing there. Awful.

[StevenYTID]

Dimitar I HATE YOU , I HOPE YOU CATCH THE PLAGUE.

[jrio]

Why dont anyone on here ever learn to shut their ****ing mouths?
Probably because it can't possibly influence the game.

[denis-cro]

we´re gonna be ripped apart...

[StevenYTID]

Always does .

[lol]

oh man..i feel like tearing... carrick keane berba...we were so close...yet we sold them all..levy why did u just promise them a block buster signing...

[corkspur]

get adel and gio on for the second half,nothing to lose!!

[denis-cro]

Why did Harry made all that stupid performance on TV blasting players after Burnley game promising changes in the team, etc, etc, and than he starts the game with same shit players that should be dropped... WTF he thinks ??? When he thinks to use Gio, Tarrabt... In the Championship ??? ****ing clown....
We need changes... and this game was perfect for that...

[StevenYTID]

Adel for Hudd.

[StevenYTID]

Why did Harry made all that stupid performance on TV blasting players after Burnley game promising changes in the team, etc, etc, and than he starts the game with same shit players that should be dropped... WTF he thinks ??? When he thinks to use Gio, Tarrabt... In the Championship ??? ****ing clown....
We need changes... and this game was perfect for that...

They look like a different team , Bentley looks lively , BAE is marking up well , its just Hudd that don't look too great , saying that he did make the first goal.

[denis-cro]

Adel for Hudd.

and Gio for Bentley...

[StevenYTID]

2-1 and you still won't sing
Thats the thing I love about this club no matter how we might be playing , and I'm not saying were playing entirely badly but were still singing while their plastic fans won't even sing when they are winning.

[Mattyboii]

denis
you do talk a bit of shit dont you

[StevenYTID]

denis
you do talk a bit of shit dont you

QFT.
True.

[GQCoolest]

GDS on for Luka. LEt's see what he can do on this stage.

[highlander]

GDS for Modric

[StevenYTID]

Modric off for GDS WHAT THE.....

[GQCoolest]

Modric off for GDS WHAT THE.....

Rest Luka for Stoke. Wouldn't be surprised to eventually see Dervitte for Dawson and Taarabt for BAE.

[jrio]

Rest Luka for Stoke. Wouldn't be surprised to eventually see Dervitte for Dawson and Taarabt for BAE.
I think I'd drop my bacon sandwich if either of those happened. :scared:

[StevenYTID]

I'd rather see defoe then taa

[hodgy]

trying to work out our formation. we have taken modric off and gone from a 4-4-1-1 to a 4- not sure- 1

[GQCoolest]

Well, Taarabt for Bale. Only a letter off.

[jrio]

Taara for Bale. Should switch sides with GDS.

[StevenYTID]

Eh?
Defoe for Hudd now please.

Ah well maybe Bentley wasn't doing much , don't see what Hudd is offering today though.

[hodgy]

thats better a 4-4-2 but rather see the two wingers switched,

[StevenYTID]

God pleat talks so much SHIT

[GQCoolest]

Gunter has been wonderful today at RB.

[StevenYTID]

Taarabt needs to learn to release the ball earlier or fuk off the greedy prick.

[GQCoolest]

Taarabt needs to learn to release the ball earlier.

He's hitting passes that likely come off for the reserves, but this is Man U. They read those.

[GQCoolest]

Would love to see a replay of the penalty shout.

[StevenYTID]

Guys a greedy dickhead , I'm sorry but its so true what everyone says about him.

Whoever posted that video of him doing mazing runs , btw the team on that day WERE DERBY.

[nuttyhotspurs]

is it just me or did our players only realise we were losing after the 4th official held up the board displaying 4mins stoppage time?

pathetic effortless display in 2nd half. what the hell did we have to lose?

another 2 hrs of my life wasted

...oh yea another thing. can the slug fuk off back to derby plz

[GQCoolest]

While it's never fun to go out, we gave a decent account of ourselves, 2-1, and don't have any extra fixtures. Gives us more time to focus on the league.

[corkspur]

wished they had showed a bit more urgency earlier,not a terrible performance, i thought we would get raped to be honest.bigger game tuesday night,HUGE!!!!!!!!!

[jrio]

A decent half hour and that was it.

[peterc]

I hope you're taking the piss.

Surely you are used to Denis-Cro, he never has anything positive to say.:001_rolleyes:

[peterc]

Alnwick had a much better performance today, poorest I thought were Zokora and Taarbt, Huddlestone close by. One less competition to worry about and more concentration on survival.

[Shelfside]

A reasonable display for the first twenty mins,then Man Utd stepped up a gear,got the two goals they needed and that was your lot.
I just could not believe that second half display from us.Our 'counter attacks' had the urgency of a screaming five year old being dragged to the shops by it's mum.That was such a timid display,summed up nicely by no-one challenging for the ball when it looped up near Utd's goal and their keeper had all the time in the world to claim the ball.
There was nothing in that display to suggest that we have the fight that is needed to get out of the relegation zone.Pathetic.

[Ioang]

Well played the lads, I thought. Hudd had a blinder, we defended well (apart from two silly mistakes) and Gio and Taraabt look at least decent enough for the bench.

Not distrought to be out, Wembley and Staying up are our cup finals this year.

[jrio]

Alnwick had a much better performance today, poorest I thought were Zokora and Taarbt, Huddlestone close by. One less competition to worry about and more concentration on survival.

Taara looked awful. Looked like Zokora had been coaching him on passing. Alnwick looked reasonable, but United played out the last 55 minutes. There's no drive in the team, no desire.

[StevenYTID]

Taara looked awful. Looked like Zokora had been coaching him on passing. Alnwick looked reasonable, but United played out the last 55 minutes. There's no drive in the team, no desire.


Hopefully Wilson can help with that.

[TURKISH]

What a waste of time that was? It was as if the players were happy to go out of the FA Cup. What happened to the will to win a game of football? We looked great until we scored after that we just couldn't be bothered. United dominated us until they scored two quick goals and just strolled to victory.

The second half there was no urgency in our play no forward pass with pace and no fight in trying to make something happen. Huddlestone was a big waste all he does is pass it out wide and just take the sting out the game. He never looked for the forward ball with pace to get things going, he was just content to find a man with a dazzling 50 yard pass to a player who had nothing on once he has the ball. He didn't put himself about at all and zokora done all his work for him. He winced at scholes shot which cost us a stupid goal, how on earth can you leave scholes with that much space on the edge of the box?

Taarabt showed nothing, there was a moment when united kept the ball for five minutes and when he get it back on the edge of the area taarabt trys nut megging tevez when he had two easy passes on. It beggers belief at times, most played as individuals out there.

The back five played well especially dawson and gunter who gave there all. Alwick played well and pulled off some great saves but was let down by the concentration level of the marvellous tom huddlestone who is hoddle, Beckinbauer and is a good player because he can play a meaningless 50 yard pass which slows our rhythm down.

There was no rhythm with our play at all and no one played a forward pass to feet even when we went two up top. Hudd again played a high ball to defoe when he is 4ft tall, a stupid pass which sums up his talents. Gio come on battled well i thought and i think harry would be happy with his workrate.

Overall we have to many players who play like individuals and slow the game right down. Harry knows this and will sort this out. Talk of a swap involving jones from sunderland with bent which i would be happy about because we need a target man who can hold the ball up and win the 50/50 balls for a pav or defoe. But he is known for not having any fight and hardly scores goals so it will be a massive gamble but he is a better option then bent at the moment.

anlwick-7 played well considering he cost us two goals against bunrley and i was impressed with his attitude and focus.

BAE-6.5 defended well at times but his final ball lets him down.

Corluka-6.5 played well but went unnoticed in the second half but did well to not be draged out of position by berbatov and tevez.

dawson-7.5 motm kept the defence togeather and really led by example. Very calm in possession and has been our best player for many games now. Really matured and has come into his own.

Gunter-7 real hard working honest player who gives nothing less than 110%. Solid player but heis final ball is lacking and he isn't the best going forward but i expect him to progress in the coming years to hopefully turn into a good right back.

Bentley-6 worked hard and was really positive in his forward play but no one was supporting him or making themselves available in forward advancing positions. Improving.

Mod-5 didn nothing all game was tidy at times but didn't link up the midfield and support pav enough. I expect more and wondering how can we get the best out of him.

Hudd-5 calm under pressure and can find a pass but his overall play is very slow and lacks any sort of penetration. He stops the team from getting any rhythm going because he likes to play at his own pace apart froma side ball or wide ball he never plays a quick forward thinking ball. He doesn't get forward or try and take the game to his opposition, he never goes past a player to try make something happen and generally is a waste of space and time. Hardly wins the ball and never gives us any bite in midfield that we need.

Zokora-7 ran his heart out and tried to get the midfield going. Wins the ball and chases anything down. Passing lets him down but you can allways count on him when the going gets tough to give his all. Never hides and gives his best.

Bale- 5 for a young man who is built with great athletesism he sure goes hiding during the game. He isn't a left winger but then his lack of physical presence makes me wonder is he a left back? He hardly made any challenges and looked happy to just ponce around. I don't care if his confidence has taken a knock but he didn't offer us nothing today and im very disapointed in the young man.

Pav- 7 What a wonderful goal and probly is our only striker who actually knows how to play up front. His movement is that of a real goal scorer who knows what his doing. Needs help up there and done his best, but with no urgency for the midfield he struggled.

Taarbt-5 naive and hasn't got a football brain at all. Plays for himself and needs to learn. Im surprised we haven't loaned him out to a westbrom or stoke to teach him the basics of how a game of football should be played.

Gio-6 i was impressed with his workrate more than anything. Needs more games.

Defoe-5 You would expect with him coming on the midfield would play the ball into his feet but no nothing, just passing sideways and he just became a passenger.

That prick berbatov celebrated when he scored and he goes further down in my estimation. What annoys me is the way he disrespected our club and he still had fans singing his name against roma on his last apperance but still chooses to play the " what did i do card" prick.

[jrio]

SSN: Harry confirms enquiry for Kenwynne Jones. Bent's definitely off then.

[jrio]

That prick berbatov celebrated when he scored and he goes further down in my estimation. What annoys me is the way he disrespected our club and he still had fans singing his name against roma on his last apperance but still chooses to play the " what did i do card" prick.
Get a grip. He held his arms out and let his team mates embrace him, then did some pointing with his arms to Carrick, who'd played the pass. What's he meant to do - apologise? You do make me lose the will to live sometimes.

[TURKISH]

SSN: Harry confirms enquiry for Kenwynne Jones. Bent's definitely off then.

What do you make of mr jones jrio? He is known for struggling to get up for games and can go missing. But he can give us the out ball and gives us that different option for upfront.

Im not sure if he can get 15 goals a season.

[peterc]

[QUOTE=jrio;124479]SSN: Harry confirms enquiry for Kenwynne Jones. Bent's definitely off then.[/

Hopefully, better sooner rather than later. Could the deal include Bent in the swap?.

[TURKISH]

Get a grip. He held his arms out and let his team mates embrace him, then did some pointing with his arms to Carrick, who'd played the pass. What's he meant to do - apologise? You do make me lose the will to live sometimes.

He didn't hold out his arms with glee against bayern leverkusen did he? Its matter of respect, robbie keane wouldn't batter an eye lid if he scored against us.

Hopefully you can kill yourself sometime soon than jrio.:wink:

[irishspur]

Alnwick 7 one great save, didnt put a foot wrong.
Gunter 7 had the measure of Ronaldo, solid if unspectacular
Dawson 7 Held things together and read the game superbly
Corluka 6 Decent game pity he lost berbacvnt for the goal.
BAE 6 Tidy performance
Bentley 5 didnt get at fabio enough, nothing performance
Hudd 6 Set up a goal, was at fault for their first, pretty poor overall
Zokora 7 Worked his socks off as always
Modric 6 Not on long enough
Bale 5 Nothing came off for him
Pav 7 Classic header lacked support thereafter
subs
Gio 7 Impressive work rate deserves a chance
Adel 5 Clearly not a big game player... yet
Defoe 6 Anonymous, could have come on earlier

Harry 6 Should have started a few fringe players and wtf was bostock?

[jrio]

He didn't hold out his arms with glee against bayern leverkusen did he? Its matter of respect, robbie keane wouldn't batter an eye lid if he scored against us.
That was AT Leverkusen, whose fans hadn't booed him remorselessly in games since he left(regardless of the differing aspects). It's nothing to do with respect. You really do want to have your cake and eat it(never thought I'd accuse anyone of that).

[jrio]

Hopefully, better sooner rather than later. Could the deal include Bent in the swap?.
More than likely. Previously heard Spurs's offer was 6m plus Bent.

[JASER279]

@ Turkish.
Thought your post with the player ratings was spot on mate.
I've got serious concerns about Modric. I can't recall onece this season when he has lived up to expectation.

What do others think. Do you think he can cut it in the Premiership or should we try + get a good price??

[peterc]

More than likely. Previously heard Spurs's offer was 6m plus Bent.


How much have we actually paid for Bent £11.5 million or £16 million? I
believe there might be a selling on clause.

[TURKISH]

That was AT Leverkusen, whose fans hadn't booed him remorselessly in games since he left(regardless of the differing aspects). It's nothing to do with respect. You really do want to have your cake and eat it(never thought I'd accuse anyone of that).

He left to a different league and not ****ed them about. He also left under different cicumstances than he did with us.

I didn't moan at mido for scoring against us, or defoe, or les ferdinand.

You accuse anyone with anything if they have a different opinion from you.

[jrio]

How much have we actually paid for Bent £11.5 million or £16 million? I
believe there might be a selling on clause.
There's no selling on clause(not at that ****ing price!). Marcspurs on SO is adamant it's a basic 13.5m with add-ons. Another source on SO is adamant it's 16.5m at 5.5m per year over 3 years.

[TURKISH]

How much have we actually paid for Bent £11.5 million or £16 million? I
believe there might be a selling on clause.

Mmmm good question im sure it would be at least 14m. But you never know with levy and his never never clauses.

[TURKISH]

@ Turkish.
Thought your post with the player ratings was spot on mate.
I've got serious concerns about Modric. I can't recall onece this season when he has lived up to expectation.

What do others think. Do you think he can cut it in the Premiership or should we try + get a good price??

Played well against bolton and a few uefa cup teams. Im not sure with him, he is a good player but its hard trying to work out how he fits into our system when we have such an inbalanced team.

[TURKISH]

Audere est Facere.

:sad: :sad: :sad:

[jrio]

He left to a different league and not ****ed them about. He also left under different cicumstances than he did with us.

I didn't moan at mido for scoring against us, or defoe, or les ferdinand.

You accuse anyone with anything if they have a different opinion from you.
Exactly. You want Berba to pursue his career as long as it doesn't piss you off. If it does, he can't only not celebrate even slightly over goals against us, he should give a grovelling apology! FFS, get a grip. Bought at 11m, sold at 31m(although we didn't want to sell). Carrick also "celebrated" his pass with Berba. Do you want to have a go at him?

[apr82]

@ Turkish.
Thought your post with the player ratings was spot on mate.
I've got serious concerns about Modric. I can't recall onece this season when he has lived up to expectation.

What do others think. Do you think he can cut it in the Premiership or should we try + get a good price??

i think commolli got confused with slavic names should have been kovac he signed

[TURKISH]

Exactly. You want Berba to pursue his career as long as it doesn't piss you off. If it does, he can't only not celebrate even slightly over goals against us, he should give a grovelling apology! FFS, get a grip. Bought at 11m, sold at 31m(although we didn't want to sell). Carrick also "celebrated" his pass with Berba. Do you want to have a go at him?

Who said anything about an apology? Berba scoring against us doesn't piss me off but celebrating it does. Carrick gave his all every game for us and left under different circumstances, i never had any gripes with carrick.

[TURKISH]

This doesn't leave you with much confidence going into the game with stoke.

[peterc]

This doesn't leave you with much confidence going into the game with stoke.

More to play for in the premiership, might hopefully wake up these overpaid prima donnas.:cursing:

[jrio]

This doesn't leave you with much confidence going into the game with stoke.
Players realise that if they beat United and lose to Stoke crisis reaches epic proportions. The other way round is a lot different. I wonder if Wilson has tried to tear up his contract like Le Tiss supposedly did?

[gomessi]

was very dissapointed with the game. It almost looked like we wanted to keep the score down:thumbdown: manu played well within themselves when we could at least have had more of a go and not attack them in the last 2 minutes.:sad:

we were decent for the first 10 mins man u were better than us for the rest even though they were nowhere near their best.

[gomessi]

More to play for in the premiership, might hopefully wake up these overpaid prima donnas.:cursing:

so the manager isnt to blame then, you never seem to blame harry. they obviosly didnt respond to the criticsm he made in public.

[TURKISH]

Players realise that if they beat United and lose to Stoke crisis reaches epic proportions. The other way round is a lot different. I wonder if Wilson has tried to tear up his contract like Le Tiss supposedly did?

Something tells me Levy wouldn't go for that.:sleep:

Harry looks bemused at the moment and im not sure how we will line up against stoke. They will have more fight than us and they will believe they can bully us to a defeat.

[TURKISH]

so the manager isnt to blame then, you never seem to blame harry. they obviosly didnt respond to the criticsm he made in public.

They don't respond to anything do they? Hence why we go threw managers so quickly pal. Your honest hard working players work hard for him but the rest are individuals who only care about money and birds.

[jrio]

so the manager isnt to blame then, you never seem to blame harry. they obviosly didnt respond to the criticsm he made in public.
We've been here under Jol, Ramos(Manager of the Year 2007, remember?) and Harry. How do you explain that?

[gomessi]

Something tells me Levy wouldn't go for that.:sleep:

Harry looks bemused at the moment and im not sure how we will line up against stoke. They will have more fight than us and they will believe they can bully us to a defeat.

is palacios allowed to play against stoke?

[peterc]

so the manager isnt to blame then, you never seem to blame harry. they obviosly didnt respond to the criticsm he made in public.



Why is Arry to blame?, he inherited this unbalanced team from your friend Senor Ramos.

[TURKISH]

is palacios allowed to play against stoke?

No serving a two game suspension. Not sure when his back maybe against arsenal or bolton.

[jrio]

is palacios allowed to play against stoke?
No, Bolton.

[apr82]

.think there is an added problem with all the auxillary staff sherwood etc too many opinions/ideas on how to play the game .best system one man one voice .redknapp needs to start kicking some arse!!!!!!!!!

[jrio]

.think there is an added problem with all the auxillary staff sherwood etc too many opinions/ideas on how to play the game .best system one man one voice .redknapp needs to start kicking some arse!!!!!!!!!
It's all dictated by Harry. Everyone else just follows orders.

[gomessi]

Why is Arry to blame?, he inherited this unbalanced team from your friend Senor Ramos.

get your head out of harrys arse we look the same old shit and this time HARRY buys the player before DC had a large say:001_rolleyes:

was harry not tot blame against wigan away -strange tactics I thought
west brom away what the **** happened there
newcastle away
fulham away


burnley away that one was JR fault I guess:001_rolleyes:

8 goals in 11 prem home games anf talking rubbish in the media e.g I'm going to play a mish mash team followed bt I'm going to play my strongest team available to me:thumbdown:

again we had no desire and no heart. :sad:

[gomessi]

Why is Arry to blame?, he inherited this unbalanced team from your friend Senor Ramos.

"Palacios is suspended - he likes tackling you see - so I don't know if he'll be any good in our team!"
Redknapp on new signing Wilson Palacios.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/funny_old_game/7834153.stm

Harry talks a good game but the players clearly arent responding.

[TURKISH]

"Palacios is suspended - he likes tackling you see - so I don't know if he'll be any good in our team!"
Redknapp on new signing Wilson Palacios.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/funny_old_game/7834153.stm

Harry talks a good game but the players clearly arent responding.

Lets sack harry until we find a manager that players such as hudd, bent, jenas, taarbat will respond to.:wink:

To be honest pal i just don't think we have enough proffessionals at our club who are willing to want to play at this club. We have had three good managers, two managers with a great reputation (harry and juande) and yet the players can never seem to respond to anything.

[jrio]

get your head out of harrys arse we look the same old shit and this time HARRY buys the player before DC had a large say:001_rolleyes:

was harry not tot blame against wigan away -strange tactics I thought
west brom away what the **** happened there
newcastle away
fulham away


burnley away that one was JR fault I guess:001_rolleyes:

8 goals in 11 prem home games anf talking rubbish in the media e.g I'm going to play a mish mash team followed bt I'm going to play my strongest team available to me:thumbdown:

again we had no desire and no heart. :sad:

Brum away 4-1, Toon home 4-1. First 8 games of the season. We saw the same then. Nuff said.

The squad is DC's, and by proxy Levy's. That's where the blame really lies, the CEO for the past 8 years. Harry's only brought back Defoe, who only played 20 minutes today, and bought Palacios, yet to play.

There's a culture of an easy life at Spurs. Fergie saw a similar thing at United. It took him a long time to eradicate that, over 4 years.

[peterc]

get your head out of harrys arse we look the same old shit and this time HARRY buys the player before DC had a large say:001_rolleyes:

was harry not tot blame against wigan away -strange tactics I thought
west brom away what the **** happened there
newcastle away
fulham away


burnley away that one was JR fault I guess:001_rolleyes:

8 goals in 11 prem home games anf talking rubbish in the media e.g I'm going to play a mish mash team followed bt I'm going to play my strongest team available to me:thumbdown:

again we had no desire and no heart. :sad:

Comolli put players forward and JR as a head coach rubber stamped his approval. Away to Burnley was the players fault that Arry inherited from the previous management. I am not saying that Arry is Mr Perfect, all managers mess up once in a while, same goes to Sir Alex, Scolari, Rafa etc, etc. Against Fulham away, yes I agree that Arry got the tactics wrong. Arry has also managed to increase our points from 2 ( if I remember correctly?) to 21 in a matter of two and a half months. Yes, we are still struggling, however, I have more confidence in Arry keeping us in the premiership than your Spanish friend Ramos.

[jrio]

Lets sack harry until we find a manager that players such as hudd, bent, jenas, taarbat will respond to.:wink:

To be honest pal i just don't think we have enough proffessionals at our club who are willing to want to play at this club. We have had three good managers, two managers with a great reputation (harry and juande) and yet the players can never seem to respond to anything.
It's what Levy does best, a manager about every 2 years.

We've had a manager who built a very good reputation whilst here(Jol), one that came with a great record(Ramos), and one here now with great respect at working in this league. They've all suffered the same spells of results and performances.

[peterc]

"Palacios is suspended - he likes tackling you see - so I don't know if he'll be any good in our team!"
Redknapp on new signing Wilson Palacios.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/funny_old_game/7834153.stm

Harry talks a good game but the players clearly arent responding.

I won't even bother answering such utter nonsence.:thumbdown:

[gomessi]

It's what Levy does best, a manager about every 2 years.

We've had a manager who built a very good reputation whilst here(Jol), one that came with a great record(Ramos), and one here now with great respect at working in this league. They've all suffered the same spells of results and performances.

exactly DL is the problem but peter is blind to that fact unfortunatly.

sacking the manager and then buying loads of players and then selling them is never a scuccessful formula.

How many players have we bought and sold under Levy?

[TURKISH]

It's what Levy does best, a manager about every 2 years.

We've had a manager who built a very good reputation whilst here(Jol), one that came with a great record(Ramos), and one here now with great respect at working in this league. They've all suffered the same spells of results and performances.

I personally don't understand the flack harry is getting because he has only brought in two players and has inherited a squad that is very mismatch to say the least. Harry is trying every book in the game to shame the players into performing for the club but still a few players are yet to respond. What really gets on my nerves is that the players never seem to take any of the flack but its allways the managers fault because apparently we alot of potential in our squad.:001_rolleyes: You don't win games with potential, you win a game with team work, hard hard, skill and disire.

Harry has a great record in this league and im confident he can change this mentality within our squad (maybe even club) but needs time.

What frightens me is i don't know whats our best team and im not sure many spur fans do.

[apr82]

revolving door fc

[peterc]

exactly DL is the problem but peter is blind to that fact unfortunatly.

sacking the manager and then buying loads of players and then selling them is never a scuccessful formula.

How many players have we bought and sold under Levy?

What are you on JS?. Have I said that we shoulod sack Arry?. Please mention where I have denied that Levy is not the problem?. Get your facts right before you type such garbage.

[gomessi]

I won't even bother answering such utter nonsence.:thumbdown:

stop sucking his dick peter he says the right things regarding tackling and working hard showing more drive but the PLAYERS arent listening.

I'm not asking for Harry to get the sack you fool I'm just saying he needs to do something different. :cursing: its like abroken record peter cant you see we are ****ing shit home and away.

His one tactical change aroung against wigan was rubbish and then he blames the players.

What harry is cleverly doing is saying look the players are crap you cant blame me:thumbdown: he needs to get on with and shut his ****ing mouth, he never shuts up. One minute its we arent pursuing jones next its we ahave made an enquiry. Dont know what to believe now.

Not really suprised you cant see it. I suppose you are happy with 3 points from 6 games 2 goals in 6, HUMILIATED against burnley, and dreadful in the fa cup.

Sounds bad if you support spurs but obviosly you are happy with spending £30m on jones and defoe

[jrio]

exactly DL is the problem but peter is blind to that fact unfortunatly.

sacking the manager and then buying loads of players and then selling them is never a scuccessful formula.

How many players have we bought and sold under Levy?
You might be confusing him with choda, Levy's man in the emerald isle. Peter's always been a strong backer of Jol, and a sceptic on Ramos.

[peterc]

I personally don't understand the flack harry is getting because he has only brought in two players and has inherited a squad that is very mismatch to say the least. Harry is trying every book in the game to shame the players into performing for the club but still a few players are yet to respond. What really gets on my nerves is that the players never seem to take any of the flack but its allways the managers fault because apparently we alot of potential in our squad.:001_rolleyes: You don't win games with potential, you win a game with team work, hard hard, skill and disire.

Harry has a great record in this league and im confident he can change this mentality within our squad (maybe even club) but needs time.

What frightens me is i don't know whats our best team and im not sure many spur fans do.

Totally agree mate. The problem is that we seem to have a few players who don't seem to click as team players. Gradually Arry will sort that out, however, another wholesale clearout might not be the right solution.

[TURKISH]

exactly DL is the problem but peter is blind to that fact unfortunatly.

sacking the manager and then buying loads of players and then selling them is never a scuccessful formula.

How many players have we bought and sold under Levy?

Comolli and many others advised levy into sacking jol because for the second season running we have had a poor start.They brought in the much fancied Juande Ramos but with the key men all going in different directions levy couldn't control what was going on. Comolli seemed to have alot of influence over Levy but instead levy should of trusted ramos more otherwise what was the point in going to all that trouble to get him here?

We had no backup plan when key players left even though we knew berbatov was gonna leave sooner rather than later. Comolli and ramos never had a clear idea how they wanted to take this club forward, they just brought a player for the sake of it. When harry buys a player he allready knows how he is gonna use him. With harry he is planning away but with levy, comolli and ramos they were just battling for control over the club to which i feel levy was a fool to trust comolli.

He seems to be backing redknapp to the hilt and for once doesn't question things but infact lets his manager do what his ment to do and that is build a squad that could hopefully be successful.

[gomessi]

What are you on JS?. Have I said that we shoulod sack Arry?. Please mention where I have denied that Levy is not the problem?. Get your facts right before you type such garbage.

christ you are ****ing thick peter.

Where have I said you wanted harry sacked!!:angry:

and you have stuck for DL plenty of times stating the bloody obvoius like he gives money to spend blah blah. I cant be bothered to respond its like talking to a brick wall.

[jrio]

What harry is cleverly doing is saying look the players are crap you cant blame me:thumbdown: he needs to get on with and shut his ****ing mouth, he never shuts up. One minute its we arent pursuing jones next its we ahave made an enquiry. Dont know what to believe now.

The funny thing is fans were complaining that they didn't hear anything from Ramos. Now it's too much. Maybe they're now thinking they need a manager like that guy at Hamburg. :001_smile:

We were always pursuing Jones, which is why Sunderland became very angry. He's not a player Harry denied wanting.

[TURKISH]

stop sucking his dick peter he says the right things regarding tackling and working hard showing more drive but the PLAYERS arent listening.

I'm not asking for Harry to get the sack you fool I'm just saying he needs to do something different. :cursing: its like abroken record peter cant you see we are ****ing shit home and away.

His one tactical change aroung against wigan was rubbish and then he blames the players.

What harry is cleverly doing is saying look the players are crap you cant blame me:thumbdown: he needs to get on with and shut his ****ing mouth, he never shuts up. One minute its we arent pursuing jones next its we ahave made an enquiry. Dont know what to believe now.

Not really suprised you cant see it. I suppose you are happy with 3 points from 6 games 2 goals in 6, HUMILIATED against burnley, and dreadful in the fa cup.

Sounds bad if you support spurs but obviosly you are happy with spending £30m on jones and defoe


People complain ramos never spoke to the media but when harrys does the opposite people moan at him for it. Everything harry does has a reason for it, he made a formal bid for jones so why not admit you have made a deal? Whats worse is when you haven't made a bid (like pool did wth the barry situation) and talk up that intrest involving that player.

The players who aren't responding to harry is the same players who have done sod all for three years.

[TURKISH]

The funny thing is fans were complaining that they didn't hear anything from Ramos. Now it's too much. Maybe they're now thinking they need a manager like that guy at Hamburg. :001_smile:

We were always pursuing Jones, which is why Sunderland became very angry. He's not a player Harry denied wanting.

I typed the same thing. Im glad i wasn't aloan in my statement.

[gomessi]

Comolli and many others advised levy into sacking jol because for the second season running we have had a poor start.They brought in the much fancied Juande Ramos but with the key men all going in different directions levy couldn't control what was going on. Comolli seemed to have alot of influence over Levy but instead levy should of trusted ramos more otherwise what was the point in going to all that trouble to get him here?

We had no backup plan when key players left even though we knew berbatov was gonna leave sooner rather than later. Comolli and ramos never had a clear idea how they wanted to take this club forward, they just brought a player for the sake of it. When harry buys a player he allready knows how he is gonna use him. With harry he is planning away but with levy, comolli and ramos they were just battling for control over the club to which i feel levy was a fool to trust comolli.

He seems to be backing redknapp to the hilt and for once doesn't question things but infact lets his manager do what his ment to do and that is build a squad that could hopefully be successful.

er that all means DL ****ed us up doesnt it. It was his decisions as you have already stated.

Fair play he is backing harry but look how much shit we are in now its unbelievable.

If we get 0 points from stoke and bolton then it becomes very very scary. We are on the brink IMO this is a real defining moment we are at now. I just hope the players step up to it I have had enough heartache to last a lifetime.

[gomessi]

The funny thing is fans were complaining that they didn't hear anything from Ramos. Now it's too much. Maybe they're now thinking they need a manager like that guy at Hamburg. :001_smile:

We were always pursuing Jones, which is why Sunderland became very angry. He's not a player Harry denied wanting.

I wont disagree with you regaridn MJ and the media. fans werent complaining when JR got us up to 11th and won the CC.

perhaps I am being overly critical regarding harr in the media but I'm seriuosly pissed off with another wasted season.

[jrio]

If we get 0 points from stoke and bolton then it becomes very very scary. We are on the brink IMO this is a real defining moment we are at now. I just hope the players step up to it I have had enough heartache to last a lifetime.
Going a little far, don't you think? A team that would certainly deserve relegation. Stoke have never won away this season, but were 5 minutes away at the Bridge. Palacios will also play against Bolton. If we get no points then it won't be through lack of effort, desire and ability.

[TURKISH]

er that all means DL ****ed us up doesnt it. It was his decisions as you have already stated.

Fair play he is backing harry but look how much shit we are in now its unbelievable.

If we get 0 points from stoke and bolton then it becomes very very scary. We are on the brink IMO this is a real defining moment we are at now. I just hope the players step up to it I have had enough heartache to last a lifetime.

Levy is advised to purchase the players that comolli, jol and ramos wanted. Its not his fault that they have scouted poor players and its not his fault for a poorly put togeather squad.

You can blame Levy for many things but not who we sign or why the players don't seem to care.

It seems most people want to blame everyone except the players who have got us in this mess.

[peterc]

[QUOTE=juandes soldier;124522]stop sucking his dick peter he says the right things regarding tackling and working hard showing more drive but the PLAYERS arent listening.

I don't appreciate such comments, if you want to answer to my posts, I would aprreciate you answer in a more appropriate and mature manner.

I'm not asking for Harry to get the sack you fool I'm just saying he needs to do something different. :cursing: its like abroken record peter cant you see we are ****ing shit home and away.

You change your views so often, one wonders what you are exaclty talking about.:001_rolleyes:

His one tactical change aroung against wigan was rubbish and then he blames the players.

Here again, maybe a wrong decision, but the players did not show their commitment.

What harry is cleverly doing is saying look the players are crap you cant blame me:thumbdown: he needs to get on with and shut his ****ing mouth, he never shuts up. One minute its we arent pursuing jones next its we ahave made an enquiry. Dont know what to believe now.

You seem to be wasted as a steward, you should apply to take over from Arry. A manager like Harry is popular with the media nad press and that helps him to get his message across to critics like yourselfwho seems to blame him for our recent dip in performances, yes he is the manage but he does not actually play on the pitch.

Not really suprised you cant see it. I suppose you are happy with 3 points from 6 games 2 goals in 6, HUMILIATED against burnley, and dreadful in the fa cup.

Sounds bad if you support spurs but obviosly you are happy with spending £30m on jones and defoe,

Who said that anyone is happy?, stop trying to twist things around. So we go for your Arshavin, no premiership experience and risk that he will take a while to adapt and see our chance of survival vanish. JS, get a grip of yourself.

[TURKISH]

I wont disagree with you regaridn MJ and the media. fans werent complaining when JR got us up to 11th and won the CC.

perhaps I am being overly critical regarding harr in the media but I'm seriuosly pissed off with another wasted season.

Harry has guided us to a cup final and has got us out of the bottom of the league. He has done well overall and im sure we will improve in the coming weeks.

Harry is no mug, he has allways put togeather a well organised side and knows how to put a successful side togeather. Look what he did at pompey, won them the FA Cup and brought such well accomplished players to a club that was very old fashioned.

[jrio]

Levy is advised to purchase the players that comolli, jol and ramos wanted. Its not his fault that they have scouted poor players and its not his fault for a poorly put togeather squad.

You can blame Levy for many things but not who we sign or why the players don't seem to care.

It seems most people want to blame everyone except the players who have got us in this mess.
Levy isn't just a guy sat there signing the cheques. He makes key decisions that affect the direction of the club, the managers, how they can manage, and what players are bought and sold. Half the players here last season aren't here now, suggesting that the malaise at the club goes deeper than that.

[gomessi]

Levy is advised to purchase the players that comolli, jol and ramos wanted. Its not his fault that they have scouted poor players and its not his fault for a poorly put togeather squad.

You can blame Levy for many things but not who we sign or why the players don't seem to care.

It seems most people want to blame everyone except the players who have got us in this mess.

turkish I have blamed the players I have stated countless times they got us into this shit but DL still sacks managers at an incredible rate so I doubt harry will be here in 2012.

I heard harry state in the media he was approached halfway through the season we finished 5th for the second time (2006/07 season about the time of the fulham game which we won 0-4 I think):cursing:

[jrio]

Harry is no mug, he has allways put togeather a well organised side and knows how to put a successful side togeather. Look what he did at pompey, won them the FA Cup and brought such well accomplished players to a club that was very old fashioned.

More impressively than that, he bought 3 players from us and saved the club from what seemed certain relegation. Without that, there would have been no FA Cup.

[jrio]

turkish I have blamed the players I have stated countless times they got us into this shit but DL still sacks managers at an incredible rate so I doubt harry will be here in 2012.

I heard harry state in the media he was approached halfway through the season we finished 5th for the second time (2006/07 season about the time of the fulham game which we won 0-4 I think):cursing:
He refused to work under a DOF system and Levy wouldn't abandon it, or let it defer to him.

[peterc]

christ you are ****ing thick peter.

Wow, you come across as such a big boy with such name calling. Grow up JS.

Where have I said you wanted harry sacked!!:angry:
You do come across as wanting him sacked. All you do is criticise him constantly.


and you have stuck for DL plenty of times stating the bloody obvoius like he gives money to spend blah blah. I cant be bothered to respond its like talking to a brick wall.


I might have sad that he is a shrewd businessman but I have never stated that he was never to blame on certain decisions. Please anyone on this forum, please correct if I'm wrong.

[TURKISH]

Levy isn't just a guy sat there signing the cheques. He makes key decisions that affect the direction of the club, the managers, how they can manage, and what players are bought and sold. Half the players here last season aren't here now, suggesting that the malaise at the club goes deeper than that.

Levy appointed comolli and seemed to favour his opinion over many others, how long did it take for him to realise comolli was no good for us. Levy obviously made that decision that overall affected us but lets make no mistake jol, comolli and ramos failed to work and build a side.

I feel levy gets to involved at times but i do feel he goes into these situation with good intentions but allways ends up with egg on his face. I predict that he will enjoy having harry as a manager because harry doesn't bullshit and knows how a manager and chairman relationship is ment to be.

I hope Levy gets over his little power trips.

[mjbmedia]

fans werent complaining when JR got us up to 11th and won the CC.


erm I was complaining cos 11th was shit as we were 11th for about 4 months with no care about getting higher.

Im complaining now too cos we are shit still , no passion, little commitment and why the **** he bought on that useless Taarbaat again after he was completely ineffective V Pompey i will never know.
Apparently he doesnt like Bent despite the guy scoring a good few goals this season for us, talk about shooting yourself in the foot, i know bring on useless Adel before the good GDs and the even better Defoe :001_rolleyes:

Harry didnt look like he gave a shit today, **** , bit different to how he was with Pompey last season at OT .
Weve been complete shit in the last 4 matches (watched Pompey and Burnley 2nd leg in the USA) , Harrys initial magic has gone (just like Ramos' did) yet for some reason i feel hes gonna be given more time and freedom than Ramos or Jol ever truly got, so far its got us nowhere near safety and we're playing crap, slow , laborious crap.

[TURKISH]

turkish I have blamed the players I have stated countless times they got us into this shit but DL still sacks managers at an incredible rate so I doubt harry will be here in 2012.

I heard harry state in the media he was approached halfway through the season we finished 5th for the second time (2006/07 season about the time of the fulham game which we won 0-4 I think):cursing:

That was the season when jol forward his cv to a club (i think it was newcastle) about being there manager because he didn't want Comolli at the club.

[gomessi]

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You seem to be wasted as a steward, you should apply to take over from Arry. A manager like Harry is popular with the media nad press and that helps him to get his message across to critics like yourselfwho seems to blame him for our recent dip in performances, yes he is the manage but he does not actually play on the pitch.

Who said that anyone is happy?, stop trying to twist things around. So we go for your Arshavin, no premiership experience and risk that he will take a while to adapt and see our chance of survival vanish. JS, get a grip of yourself.


I couldnt give a shit if he is popular with the media. He is popular because he talks the most its what he is good at.

Jol and Ramos also never played on the pitch but it didnt make them immune from criticsm.

Tell me you are joking regarding arshavin the goons will get him for what we paid for defoe:thumbdown: At the most it will be a few million more. If you think arshavin isnt good enough for spurs then there isnt any point in me trying to explain.

apart from the goals JD scores he contributes very very little.

[peterc]

That was the season when jol forward his cv to a club (i think it was newcastle) about being there manager because he didn't want Comolli at the club.

And Comolli didn't want BMJ because he was not his chosen manager. Seemed like the clash of the titans.

[gomessi]

That was the season when jol forward his cv to a club (i think it was newcastle) about being there manager because he didn't want Comolli at the club.

DL should have backed jol instead of DC then. we nearly finshed 4th but then made some disasterous errors in the transfer market.

DO you really think jol would spend £16m on bent when we had defoe keane and berba who scored 60+ goals.

DC confused things and DL backed him.

Unsuprisingly Harry didnt want to work under our Dof as jrio has already stated.

[gomessi]

And Comolli didn't want BMJ because he was not his chosen manager. Seemed like the clash of the titans.

Why would you describe DC as a titan. What has he ever done in football to deserve such an important role in THFC?

[jrio]

erm I was complaining cos 11th was shit as we were 11th for about 4 months with no care about getting higher.

Im complaining now too cos we are shit still , no passion, little commitment and why the **** he bought on that useless Taarbaat again after he was completely ineffective V Pompey i will never know.
Apparently he doesnt like Bent despite the guy scoring a good few goals this season for us, talk about shooting yourself in the foot, i know bring on useless Adel before the good GDs and the even better Defoe :001_rolleyes:

Harry didnt look like he gave a shit today, **** , bit different to how he was with Pompey last season at OT .

Taara divides fans almost like JJ. I'm with you on today. But don't bring Defoe into it. He had no service and the team weren't breaking any legs to provide a sniff of it.

Harry built last season's Pompey team, and they were pushing for top 4. Big difference, I think.

[jrio]

That was the season when jol forward his cv to a club (i think it was newcastle) about being there manager because he didn't want Comolli at the club.
He didn't. He was contacted by Toon and spoke to them to use it as leverage to seek a wage increase.

[peterc]

Why would you describe DC as a titan. What has he ever done in football to deserve such an important role in THFC?


Have you ever head of tongue in cheek?.

[jrio]

apart from the goals JD scores he contributes very very little.
A bit like Jimmy Greaves. Clive Allen also contributed little from what I saw. Lineker was probably the worst.

[TURKISH]

DL should have backed jol instead of DC then. we nearly finshed 4th but then made some disasterous errors in the transfer market.

DO you really think jol would spend £16m on bent when we had defoe keane and berba who scored 60+ goals.

DC confused things and DL backed him.

Unsuprisingly Harry didnt want to work under our Dof as jrio has already stated.

Jol persuaded bent to come to spurs and was very much a fan of his.

I think Levy allready made up his mind on a DoF before he signed harry. Comolli thought this was champ manager that picking players is easy. Only the manager knows who he needs and can identify them.

Jol didn't help things with his performances, claiming he was a manager who believes in wings men but allways played a midfield full of dm.

[TURKISH]

He didn't. He was contacted by Toon and spoke to them to use it as leverage to seek a wage increase.

Levy said jol put forward his cv to another club whilst manager at tottenham. Has jol ever disputed these claims? Im not 100% sure on anything but its almost getting the the point where its make up your mind on who's side you believe.

[TURKISH]

Why would you describe DC as a titan. What has he ever done in football to deserve such an important role in THFC?

Thats a question to Danny boy.

[apr82]

jol was told here is darren bent this is our new striker.

[TURKISH]

jol was told here is darren bent this is our new striker.

Jol had a chat to darren bent and told him to join. Darren bent has said so himself.

[jrio]

Levy said jol put forward his cv to another club whilst manager at tottenham. Has jol ever disputed these claims? Im not 100% sure on anything but its almost getting the the point where its make up your mind on whos side you believe.
I think we can all judge from your previous viewpoints in other areas outside football, as to whether you do enough research before reaching a decision. :scared:

I'm recounting Jol's account to a journalist from a few months ago, after Ramos was sacked, when it was suggested that Jol wanted to buy Kaboul. Levy was under severe fire and sought to justify himself, leading to Jol's counters.

[mjbmedia]

Jol persuaded bent to come to spurs and was very much a fan of his.

I think Levy allready made up his mind on a DoF before he signed harry. Comolli thought this was champ manager that picking players is easy. Only the manager knows who he needs and can identify them.

Jol didn't help things with his performances, claiming he was a manager who believes in wings men but allways played a midfield full of dm.
Jol didnt help with his performances???? you mean two 5th places and some great winning and/or unbeaten runs (ie consistency) the like of which we havent had at Spurs since or indeed before for a long long time.
I know what you mean really, i think, Jol said what he knew the fans wanted to hear, but he couldnt play that way cos we didnt have the players in the squad (only Lennon) , but he still done damn well with what we did have, he wanted to play the 'Spurs' way, but the squad he had didnt allow him to. hence him wanting the likes of Petrov and Elano but getting Zokora and BAE :thumbdown:

[gomessi]

A bit like Jimmy Greaves. Clive Allen also contributed little from what I saw. Lineker was probably the worst.

bad comparisions IMO .

greaves, linekar and allen scored at a much higher rate and are regarded as better players. greaves is one of the best in our history.

you need to have more than just goal scoring ability as Bent will be able say if/when he leaves. 12 goals and we want to sell him.

strikers need to be more rounded in the modern game.

[peterc]

I think we can all judge from your previous viewpoints in other areas outside football, as to whether you do enough research before reaching a decision. :scared:

I'm recounting Jol's account to a journalist from a few months ago, after Ramos was sacked, when it was suggested that Jol wanted to buy Kaboul. Levy was under severe fire and sought to justify himself, leading to Jol's counters.


Did not BMJ state in an interview that he had the likes of certain players in defence and he would have been much happier with the present defence?, or something to those word. That makes one think, if he was responsibile for all signings during his reign.

[jrio]

Jol had a chat to darren bent and told him to join. Darren bent has said so himself.
I've never seen any account of that. Jol seemed to go out of his way not to play Bent whilst he was still here. Propaganda from the club always claimed that Jol wanted to sign Kuyt or Crouch, which makes sense with a partner like Keane, and knowing that Jol stated that Berba told him he wanted to join United.

[apr82]

Jol had a chat to darren bent and told him to join. Darren bent has said so himself.

was jol smokin blow that week:001_smile:

[TURKISH]

I think we can all judge from your previous viewpoints in other areas outside football, as to whether you do enough research before reaching a decision. :scared:

I'm recounting Jol's account to a journalist from a few months ago, after Ramos was sacked, when it was suggested that Jol wanted to buy Kaboul. Levy was under severe fire and sought to justify himself, leading to Jol's counters.

How can i do research when Levy himself stated that jol put forward his cv to newcastle? As i said im not sure on who's right or who's wrong thats why i said has jol disputed these matters.

To my defence on other areas the jews comment was made after watching a documentary where they claimed (im not 100% sure how many he said) around 2000 jews took a day off. Now obvioulsy i haven't personally researched that and should know better. Theres many questions why people feel the US never landed on the moon but mine comes form how the US goverment were able to fund such a thing when it wasn't so long ago they were in a recession.

[TURKISH]

I've never seen any account of that. Jol seemed to go out of his way not to play Bent whilst he was still here. Propaganda from the club always claimed that Jol wanted to sign Kuyt or Crouch, which makes sense with a partner like Keane, and knowing that Jol stated that Berba told him he wanted to join United.

Darren bent told Garth crooks to his face during an interview to football focus.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/7756317.stm

[gomessi]

How can i do research when Levy himself stated that jol put forward his cv to newcastle? As i said im not sure on who's right or who's wrong thats why i said has jol disputed these matters.

To my defence on other areas the jews comment was made after watching a documentary where they claimed (im not 100% sure how many he said) around 2000 jews took a day off. Now obvioulsy i haven't personally researched that and should know better. Theres many questions why people feel the US never landed on the moon but mine comes form how the US goverment were able to fund such a thing when it wasn't so long ago they were in a recession.

you really shouldnt believe anything DL says.

1 week before MJ got sacked

"martin has my full backing"

even though every spurs fan knew it was the complete opposite.:cursing:

[jrio]

bad comparisions IMO .

greaves, linekar and allen scored at a much higher rate and are regarded as better players. greaves is one of the best in our history.

you need to have more than just goal scoring ability as Bent will be able say if/when he leaves. 12 goals and we want to sell him.

strikers need to be more rounded in the modern game.

Different times, different players. Allen actually only achieved great success in one season in front of a 5 man midfield. I never saw Greaves, but I imagine he was much like Lineker, economy of movement and always seeking the opportunity. It's very difficult to laud those players when they're not scoring. I never used to rate Lineker as a kid, because he never did anything apart from score goals. Laughable, but when you get older you appreciate that not doing anything on or near the ball isn't the key to influencing a game.

[TURKISH]

Jol didnt help with his performances???? you mean two 5th places and some great winning and/or unbeaten runs (ie consistency) the like of which we havent had at Spurs since or indeed before for a long long time.
I know what you mean really, i think, Jol said what he knew the fans wanted to hear, but he couldnt play that way cos we didnt have the players in the squad (only Lennon) , but he still done damn well with what we did have, he wanted to play the 'Spurs' way, but the squad he had didnt allow him to. hence him wanting the likes of Petrov and Elano but getting Zokora and BAE :thumbdown:

He had a poor start to the season the second time round we finished 5th, then he had another poor start to the season and the team didn't look like it had improved. He should of known better not to buy bent and we didn't really make any real improvements. I hated that he would play a dm team, there was one game he played keane on right wing so he could play bent upfront with berbatov. I personally wasn't impressed with him but saying that i felt he didn't get a fair crack at it either.

[apr82]

this thread should now be called THE FAR SIDE the discussion on the game players is long gone

[TURKISH]

you really shouldnt believe anything DL says.

1 week before MJ got sacked

"martin has my full backing"

even though every spurs fan knew it was the complete opposite.:cursing:

Of course thats why i said its a situation where you have to take sides because there both coming out with different scenarios.

Plus jol said he never wanted darren bent but then he was the one who persuaded bent to come.:001_rolleyes: It works both ways.

[jrio]

How can i do research when Levy himself stated that jol put forward his cv to newcastle? As i said im not sure on who's right or who's wrong thats why i said has jol disputed these matters.

Well, didn't Levy claim that he didn't go to Spain to meet Ramos and his agent with the intention of replacing Jol with him? I expect you were believing that one as well.

[gomessi]

Different times, different players. Allen actually only achieved great success in one season in front of a 5 man midfield. I never saw Greaves, but I imagine he was much like Lineker, economy of movement and always seeking the opportunity. It's very difficult to laud those players when they're not scoring. I never used to rate Lineker as a kid, because he never did anything apart from score goals. Laughable, but when you get older you appreciate that not doing anything on or near the ball isn't the key to influencing a game.

Surely you need strikers to come deep to link well with the midfield

[TURKISH]

Well, didn't Levy claim that he didn't go to Spain to meet Ramos and his agent with the intention of replacing Jol with him? I expect you were believing that one as well.

Im not talking about that, just because levy lied about one things doesn't mean he lied about another. Did jol dispute these facts? Im not taking sides im just stating what levy has said and what other itk has backed up.

[gomessi]

Of course thats why i said its a situation where you have to take sides because there both coming out with different scenarios.

Plus jol said he never wanted darren bent but then he was the one who persuaded bent to come.:001_rolleyes: It works both ways.

so you havent taken the side of leby even though we have gone from 5th and 5th to fighting relegation for 2 seasons running.

and the fact we are spending millions is almost irrelevent because we have been crap for ages.

[mjbmedia]

He had a poor start to the season the second time round we finished 5th, then he had another poor start to the season and the team didn't look like it had improved. He should of known better not to buy bent and we didn't really make any real improvements. I hated that he would play a dm team, there was one game he played keane on right wing so he could play bent upfront with berbatov. I personally wasn't impressed with him but saying that i felt he didn't get a fair crack at it either.
if we didnt concede, then we only needed to score one goal to win, this we did quite regularly, sometimes we'd mess up in the last 5 minutes and draw 1-1 which cost us 4th place but in essence the ideas were very sound for who we had at the club, Keane ,Berbs, Defoe and Mido were scoring the rest were defending the goal lead, again good tactics for the players we had (ie no real playmakers ) .

if you say having Keane on right midfield is a DM set up , when chances are Lennie was on left midfield, then im not agreeing with you unless im just picking on one point/game .

[jrio]

Of course thats why i said its a situation where you have to take sides because there both coming out with different scenarios.

Plus jol said he never wanted darren bent but then he was the one who persuaded bent to come.:001_rolleyes: It works both ways.

".. [Jol]funnily enough he didn't play me at the start of the season, was it mixed messages, is he just telling me that?". - Bent

See, T? Is he just telling me that? Make up your own mind, but the clear indications are there.

[jrio]

Surely you need strikers to come deep to link well with the midfield
Midfielders that run forward to support the strikers, creating more options.

[TURKISH]

Surely you need strikers to come deep to link well with the midfield

If you have two strikers up front you can have one who drops into the pocket and the other can look to get inbehind the defence. Or you can have a five man midfield with a clever playmaker who can get forward into the pockets and influence things.

It only worked because the team new how to play in that system. There was a time when we had two striker in crooks and archibald who just looked to get down the channel or inbehind the defence, they would both run down opposite channels and hoddle would allways find one of them.

We just don't have the squad to get the most out of bent plus he isn't that good to reply on more than 20 goals imo. I also think we have relied to heavily on berba and keanes brilliant partnership that we don't know how esle to play.

[TURKISH]

".. [Jol]funnily enough he didn't play me at the start of the season, was it mixed messages, is he just telling me that?". - Bent

See, T? Is he just telling me that? Make up your own mind, but the clear indications are there.

Thats jol problems if it is, jol persuaded bent to come here so if he did he can't later down the line bitch about how he didn't want him. Jol should know better.

[TURKISH]

so you havent taken the side of leby even though we have gone from 5th and 5th to fighting relegation for 2 seasons running.

and the fact we are spending millions is almost irrelevent because we have been crap for ages.

You have misread my post, i said i haven't taken a side in if jol did indeed offer newcastle his services or if jol was actually doing for another reason.

Not on who's fault this mess is, ive already stated that in previous posts tonight.

[jrio]

Im not talking about that, just because levy lied about one things doesn't mean he lied about another. Did jol dispute these facts? Im not taking sides im just stating what levy has said and what other itk has backed up.
A lot of ITK has been fed from the club, and those receiving it want to back it up, supporting their privileged position, telling it "like it is". Thus, Jol got slaughtered for wanting to swap Crouch for Berba, and wanting to swan off to Toon. Don't believe the hype. The truth is normally much more pedestrian.

Levy knows the responsibility lies with him, yet he seeks to avoid it because he lacks courage and know that the responsible thing to do would be to resign. That would cost him a lot monetarily. I wouldn't actually support him resigning, because I doubt he could be bettered in the financial management of the club. A little more humbleness would be appreciated, in fact a lot more, plus not milking the fans for all they've got to give.

[TURKISH]

if we didnt concede, then we only needed to score one goal to win, this we did quite regularly, sometimes we'd mess up in the last 5 minutes and draw 1-1 which cost us 4th place but in essence the ideas were very sound for who we had at the club, Keane ,Berbs, Defoe and Mido were scoring the rest were defending the goal lead, again good tactics for the players we had (ie no real playmakers ) .

if you say having Keane on right midfield is a DM set up , when chances are Lennie was on left midfield, then im not agreeing with you unless im just picking on one point/game .

It was against everton we had bent, berba up front with tt on the left with hudd, zokora and keane in the midifield.

[gomessi]

You have misread my post, i said i haven't taken a side in if jol did indeed offer newcastle his services or if jol was actually doing for another reason.

Not on who's fault this mess is, ive already stated that in previous posts tonight.

sorry turkish I'm just ****ed off with everything. I just want a good team

[jrio]

Thats jol problems if it is, jol persuaded bent to come here so if he did he can't later down the line bitch about how he didn't want him. Jol should know better.
Never been in a job where you were forced to do something you really didn't want to do? You're only 20, there's plenty of time. Jol was about 51. :wink:

[mjbmedia]

Thats jol problems if it is, jol persuaded bent to come here so if he did he can't later down the line bitch about how he didn't want him. Jol should know better.
Jol does know better, thats why hes now managing a German team that are doing well, like SPurs done well under Jol, whilst Spurs now do crap.
Jol does know better!

[TURKISH]

Never been in a job where you were forced to do something you really didn't want to do? You're only 20, there's plenty of time. Jol was about 51. :wink:

This is your interpritation on the situation, as i said what has jol said about levys comments?

[TURKISH]

A lot of ITK has been fed from the club, and those receiving it want to back it up, supporting their privileged position, telling it "like it is". Thus, Jol got slaughtered for wanting to swap Crouch for Berba, and wanting to swan off to Toon. Don't believe the hype. The truth is normally much more pedestrian.

Levy knows the responsibility lies with him, yet he seeks to avoid it because he lacks courage and know that the responsible thing to do would be to resign. That would cost him a lot monetarily. I wouldn't actually support him resigning, because I doubt he could be bettered in the financial management of the club. A little more humbleness would be appreciated, in fact a lot more, plus not milking the fans for all they've got to give.

Im not doubting what you say or what levy says in that matter. I haven't made up my mind on the situation because jol hasn't addressed his side.

[jrio]

You have misread my post, i said i haven't taken a side in if jol did indeed offer newcastle his services or if jol was actually doing for another reason.

Not on who's fault this mess is, ive already stated that in previous posts tonight.
Sometimes, or most times, you should sit back and look at information, and make a learned judgement on what is likely to be true. Why would Jol seek to leave Spurs for Toon? Jol's not greedy, and was responsible for bringing back a clear sense of pride and respect to this club, admiration amongst outside the club. He's not the sort of man who would move to Toon for something like double wages, bearing in mind their instability. Chelsea, United, sure. You don't really put any thought into these views.

[TURKISH]

sorry turkish I'm just ****ed off with everything. I just want a good team

It take times, harry needs time to change all this around and once next season kicks off (hopefully in the prem) you will see a change in the squad with all the players that are no good going.

[jrio]

This is your interpritation on the situation, as i said what has jol said about levys comments?
Invariably he has refuted them. Specifically he stated that he didn't have free rein over transfers, that he didn't pursue a deal with Toon, that he never sought to acquire Kaboul from Spurs.

[gomessi]

It take times, harry needs time to change all this around and once next season kicks off (hopefully in the prem) you will see a change in the squad with all the players that are no good going.

I have been waiting long enough. I am prepared to give harry the time. I would give harry this season and the WHOLE of next season before I make a proper judgement.

I'm more patient than you might realise what pisses me off is the fact there seems to very little change.

[TURKISH]

Sometimes, or most times, you should sit back and look at information, and make a learned judgement on what is likely to be true. Why would Jol seek to leave Spurs for Toon? Jol's not greedy, and was responsible for bringing back a clear sense of pride and respect to this club, admiration amongst outside the club. He's not the sort of man who would move to Toon for something like double wages, bearing in mind their instability. Chelsea, United, sure. You don't really put any thought into these views.

Im stateting what levy has said, im not saying its true or care about what the situation is. All im saying is what has been jols responce to levys comments. I haven't taken any thought into this subject, just passing on information of jol putting his cv into another club and just raising questions for others to think about. We can never be 100% sure on any information as we have no real bearing on what has gone on apart from what we read in the papers and so on.

You said jol wasn't greedy but you also said jol put his cv into another club to get higher wages.

Im not really fussed on the situation to be honest and not disputing the fact that you could be right.

[TURKISH]

Invariably he has refuted them. Specifically he stated that he didn't have free rein over transfers, that he didn't pursue a deal with Toon, that he never sought to acquire Kaboul from Spurs.

Which i have said many times on here when jol was sacked. I wonder what would of happened if jol actually brought in the players he wanted.

[peterc]

I have been waiting long enough. I am prepared to give harry the time. I would give harry this season and the WHOLE of next season before I make a proper judgement.

I'm more patient than you might realise what pisses me off is the fact there seems to very little change.

JS, remember the old saying, Rome was not built in one day.:001_smile:

[TURKISH]

JS, remember the old saying, Rome was not built in one day.:001_smile:

No because levy wasn't in charge.:wink:

[peterc]

No because levy wasn't in charge.:wink:

If he was, doubt it that Rome would ever have been built, he would have sacked too many architects.:001_smile:

[jrio]

Im stateting what levy has said, im not saying its true or care about what the situation is. All im saying is what has been jols responce to levys comments. I haven't taken any thought into this subject, just passing on information of jol putting his cv into another club and just raising questions for others to think about. We can never be 100% sure on any information as we have no real bearing on what has gone on apart from what we read in the papers and so on.

You said jol wasn't greedy but you also said jol put his cv into another club to get higher wages.

Im not really fussed on the situation to be honest and not disputing the fact that you could be right.
No, you said that. I said he responded to an offer from Toon as a way of increasing his wages, as any employee happy in his current role would do.

[TURKISH]

No, you said that. I said he responded to an offer from Toon as a way of increasing his wages, as any employee happy in his current role would do.

I never said he put his cv forward to get higher wages.

[jrio]

I never said he put his cv forward to get higher wages.
:cursing:

You said he put his CV forward. He didn't. :cursing:

[TURKISH]

:cursing:

You said he put his CV forward. He didn't. :cursing:

I didn't dispute that.

Im not concerned if he did or he didn't we do not know all the facts and we can never be sure of any situation.

[jrio]

I didn't dispute that.

Im not concerned if he did or he didn't we do not know all the facts and we can never be sure of any situation.
A man did land on the moon though. :wink:

I'm sure of that fact. I know Wallace and Gromit did cos I've seen it on tv a few times. :001_smile:

[Mattyboii]

mommy and daddy will you please stop fighting
:drool:
:cursing:
:crying:
:w00t:

[gomessi]

JS, remember the old saying, Rome was not built in one day.:001_smile:

I have already stated Harry should be given time:glare:

"Patience serves as a protection against wrongs as clothes do against cold. For if you put on more clothes as the cold increases, it will have no power to hurt you. So in like manner you must grow in patience when you meet with great wrongs, and they will then be powerless to vex your mind."

its ****ing DL who is the impatient one. Why was he after HR after we finished 5th the previous season and then proceeded to finish 5th again.

Dont start throwing stupid quotes at me because this mess has been created by DL!!

[peterc]

I have already stated Harry should be given time:glare:

"Patience serves as a protection against wrongs as clothes do against cold. For if you put on more clothes as the cold increases, it will have no power to hurt you. So in like manner you must grow in patience when you meet with great wrongs, and they will then be powerless to vex your mind."

its ****ing DL who is the impatient one. Why was he after HR after we finished 5th the previous season and then proceeded to finish 5th again.

Dont start throwing stupid quotes at me because this mess has been created by DL!!

Levy listened to the wrong people when he took action with Jol and realised that he had to do something to save his face when Ramos was not achieving the expected results. He got rid of the whole lot. This time there is no escape, unless he provides all the funds HR asks for and in the most unlikely event HR fails. I believe that HR will eventually get us out of this mess.

[fluke]

The solution is simple.
We seem to perform well when a new manager comes in and then go back to being crap. This is regardless of diet regimes, bigging up the players or just putting an arm around them. This all only goes so far at Spurs.
We need a new manager every six weeks. Three new managers will take us to the end of the season.

[gomessi]

Levy listened to the wrong people when he took action with Jol and realised that he had to do something to save his face when Ramos was not achieving the expected results. He got rid of the whole lot. This time there is no escape, unless he provides all the funds HR asks for and in the most unlikely event HR fails. I believe that HR will eventually get us out of this mess.

what kind of ****ing excuse is that peter. :cursing:

If I failed to listen to the right lecturers I would also fail. Fortunatly for me all the lecturers can do their jobs.

DL has got us into this shit and now spurs are having to pay through the roof to get ourselves out of it. Dl is good at running the financial side of things but we are shit as a football team and that is the most important thing.

[peterc]

[QUOTE=juandes soldier;124607]what kind of ****ing excuse is that peter. :cursing:

If I failed to listen to the right lecturers I would also fail. Fortunatly for me all the lecturers can do their jobs.

DL has got us into this shit and now spurs are having to pay through the roof to get ourselves out of it. Dl is good at running the financial side of things but we are shit as a football team and that is the most important thing.

Not an excuse, more like a fact. We are all human and we are expected to make mistakes. Levy has admitted openly that his knowledge on the game is very limited. Joe Lewis (owner of Enic) gave that role to DL to make the company profitable and this he has successfully done.

[Indianspur]

Hey guys went to the game yesterday! sat with the scum as friend gave me a free ticket to sit next to him! thought spurs fans were brilliant just above and pretty much out sang the manu fans. they only seemed to sing when they were winning.
Same cannot be said about our performance.
i think we should have left the doubtful players and some of the midweek players on the bench. this would have given the youngsters a chance and they probably would have more drive and fitness for the game!
Just thought we didnt have any hunger like that pitbull tevez who is an example for any player to follow!

[jrio]

Did not BMJ state in an interview that he had the likes of certain players in defence and he would have been much happier with the present defence?, or something to those word. That makes one think, if he was responsibile for all signings during his reign.
He said he wanted an experienced CB and got Kaboul.

[peterc]

He said he wanted an experienced CB and got Kaboul.

I would take that as he was not fully reponsibile for all siginigs during his reign.

[Rojoknapp]

Hey guys went to the game yesterday! sat with the scum as friend gave me a free ticket to sit next to him! thought spurs fans were brilliant just above and pretty much out sang the manu fans. they only seemed to sing when they were winning.
Same cannot be said about our performance.
i think we should have left the doubtful players and some of the midweek players on the bench. this would have given the youngsters a chance and they probably would have more drive and fitness for the game!
Just thought we didnt have any hunger like that pitbull tevez who is an example for any player to follow!

I was in the Spurs end :thumbup: :biggrin:

Man U fans were f*cking shit, I was a few metres away from them and we applauded every time (about 3 times) they sang anything. Brilliant atmosphere in the Spurs end, I think it's very harsh when people on here say we have shit fans.

[mjbmedia]

, I think it's very harsh when people on here say we have shit fans.
we have shit fans, but they dont go away much

[singapore spur]

I have already stated Harry should be given time:glare:

"Patience serves as a protection against wrongs as clothes do against cold. For if you put on more clothes as the cold increases, it will have no power to hurt you. So in like manner you must grow in patience when you meet with great wrongs, and they will then be powerless to vex your mind."

its ****ing DL who is the impatient one. Why was he after HR after we finished 5th the previous season and then proceeded to finish 5th again.

Dont start throwing stupid quotes at me because this mess has been created by DL!!


luv it... :001_smile:

[choda]

we have shit fans, but they dont go away much

Shocking comment. Why do you support spurs?

[TURKISH]

we have shit fans, but they dont go away much

That is utter rubbish, we have great away support and thats a commment that i would expect from someone who doesn't live in this country or has been to a spurs game.

[berbzy 'G']

we have shit fans, but they dont go away much

Upton Park was transformed this season when we entered :sleep: