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TURKISH
2nd January 2009, 10:17 PM
Boeing at every moment was disgusting i winced watching that. Harry than didn't put him on because he was getting booed. The fans boo him because he threw his shirt away, not to piss us fans off but because he was disapointed with his performance. Didn't keane and defoe once throw there shirt away?:001_rolleyes:

One thing you cannot say about ghaly is he lacks passion, he gives his all for the team, he once played on when he got his teeth knocked out at pompey and he would allways give his best.

Than the spurs fans sang for defoe...why? Sing for pav or bent or bentley. The players who need the support, not a player who plays for another club what good does that do to bent who hears the fans sing another strikers name?

****ing stupid fickle fans.

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 10:22 PM
agree with EVERY SINGLE word.

well said turkish

****ing pathetic!!!!

and I hope defoe doesnt sign and we get rasiak just to piss those idiots off.

**** sake we cheet a pompey player:scared: :cursing: :thumbdown: :angry:

how about singing pavs name who was brilliant throughout.

peterc
2nd January 2009, 10:25 PM
Same goes to the fans who were singing you should not be wearing that shirt to Bentley, disgusting and pathetic.

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 10:26 PM
Same goes to the fans who were singing you should not be wearing that shirt to Bentley, disgusting and pathetic.

I agree its disgraceful

TURKISH
2nd January 2009, 10:27 PM
Same goes to the fans who were singing you should not be wearing that shirt to Bentley, disgusting and pathetic.

Didn't hear that, what a bunch of ****s.

peterc
2nd January 2009, 10:29 PM
Didn't hear that, what a bunch of ****s.


Yep, now we all know we are called fickle fans.:cursing:

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 10:32 PM
Didn't hear that, what a bunch of ****s.

there was also a chant about 15 minutes in directed at bent.

stupid fans didnt realise he was injured:angry:

berbzy 'G'
2nd January 2009, 10:36 PM
Boeing at every moment was disgusting i winced watching that. Harry than didn't put him on because he was getting booed. The fans boo him because he threw his shirt away, not to piss us fans off but because he was disapointed with his performance. Didn't keane and defoe once throw there shirt away?:001_rolleyes:

One thing you cannot say about ghaly is he lacks passion, he gives his all for the team, he once played on when he got his teeth knocked out at pompey and he would allways give his best.

Than the spurs fans sang for defoe...why? Sing for pav or bent or bentley. The players who need the support, not a player who plays for another club what good does that do to bent who hears the fans sing another strikers name?

****ing stupid fickle fans.

I know you always rated Ghaly as a good player for us Turkish a little while back when everyone was having a dig at him. I slagged him off in the past too, But now I wouldnt actually mind seeing Ghaly get a few games for us if it's possible. If you think about it, He does create chances and will run his socks off all day long, We could do with someone like that atm. I gotta admit, I was quite looking forward to him coming on, I wouldnt off booed him myself, straight from the start when Ghaly threw the Tottenham shirt to the ground, My first instinct towards it was his frustration due to being substituted and nothing else.

Mattyboii
2nd January 2009, 10:40 PM
with pav playing like that
id be singing these
http://videos.spurstube.co.uk/video/Pavlyuchenko-Songs-talkSPORT

matthius23
2nd January 2009, 10:42 PM
Boeing at every moment was disgusting i winced watching that. Harry than didn't put him on because he was getting booed. The fans boo him because he threw his shirt away, not to piss us fans off but because he was disapointed with his performance. Didn't keane and defoe once throw there shirt away?:001_rolleyes:

One thing you cannot say about ghaly is he lacks passion, he gives his all for the team, he once played on when he got his teeth knocked out at pompey and he would allways give his best.

Than the spurs fans sang for defoe...why? Sing for pav or bent or bentley. The players who need the support, not a player who plays for another club what good does that do to bent who hears the fans sing another strikers name?

****ing stupid fickle fans.

Well WELL said Turkish... thouroughly agree. Was looking forward to seeing him come on. Think Arry bottled it by not putting him on... he shouldve given him 10 mins just to show the fans who's boss!

TURKISH
2nd January 2009, 10:43 PM
I know you always rated Ghaly as a good player for us Turkish a little while back when everyone was having a dig at him. I slagged him off in the past too, But now I wouldnt actually mind seeing Ghaly get a few games for us if it's possible. If you think about it, He does create chances and will run his socks off all day long, We could do with someone like that atm. I gotta admit, I was quite looking forward to him coming on, I wouldnt off booed him myself, straight from the start when Ghaly threw the Tottenham shirt to the ground, My first instinct towards it was his frustration due to being substituted and nothing else.

I think he is a good player, defensively and work rate he is awesome. But than sometimes on the ball he looks terrific and other times he looks like a div with his passing but overall i think he was a solid player for us and one i would never have to worry about because he was allways consistent.

I was well upset tonight because i feel he made one mistake and is punished for it.:sad:

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 10:43 PM
with pav playing like that
id be singing these
http://videos.spurstube.co.uk/video/Pavlyuchenko-Songs-talkSPORT

LOL quality matty!!

roman came across spatack moscow moscow
to play for tottenham in attack you know you know

:001_smile:

Mattyboii
2nd January 2009, 10:45 PM
LOL quality matty!!

roman came across spatack moscow moscow
to play for tottenham in attack you know you know

:001_smile:

THERE ARE SO MANY HILARIOUS ONES
im wetting myself
some are just so bad but its soo funnyyyyyy

berbzy 'G'
2nd January 2009, 10:46 PM
with pav playing like that
id be singing these
http://videos.spurstube.co.uk/video/Pavlyuchenko-Songs-talkSPORT

oh great. Now we need some song ideas for our transformed striker. Where the f*ck is Woodgate39/KingJJ when you need the c*nt ? :cursing:

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 10:46 PM
THERE ARE SO MANY HILARIOUS ONES
im wetting myself
some are just so bad but its soo funnyyyyyy

I know there great.

sing these and pav will get us hatricks in every game!

there all brilliant

rodkralik
2nd January 2009, 10:47 PM
Agree with the criticism of the chants, and agree with juandes soldier about Defoe. I've got a running argument with a Spurs at work, who thinks that Defoe's return is the only thing that can save us from relegation. Personally, I think he's found his level, and should be left there.

Rojoknapp
2nd January 2009, 11:04 PM
I didn't boo Ghaly personally, though I know why some did, I think it's time to move on, and for these fans to realise that had Modric done the same thing he would be forgiven pretty sharpish. It's a bit stupid really. What I agree with more wholeheartedly though is not singing Defoe chants. Ridiculously unfair on DB10 and Pavlyuchenko.

On a side note on Defoe, I'm f*cking sick of Spurs fans going on about how he never got enough of a chance here even though we had Keane and Berbatov, arguably the best strike partnership in the league, and one of the best in Europe.

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 11:06 PM
Agree with the criticism of the chants, and agree with juandes soldier about Defoe. I've got a running argument with a Spurs at work, who thinks that Defoe's return is the only thing that can save us from relegation. Personally, I think he's found his level, and should be left there.

he would improve our side but he isnt what we need if we want to become a top 4 challenging team.

lpool wanted keane over defoe for a good reason and that is purely because JD doesnt have anything else in his game apart from his finishing skills.

berbzy 'G'
2nd January 2009, 11:07 PM
I didn't boo Ghaly personally, though I know why some did, I think it's time to move on, and for these fans to realise that had Modric done the same thing he would be forgiven pretty sharpish. It's a bit stupid really. What I agree with more wholeheartedly though is not singing Defoe chants. Ridiculously unfair on DB10 and Pavlyuchenko.

On a side note on Defoe, I'm f*cking sick of Spurs fans going on about how he never got enough of a chance here even though we had Keane and Berbatov, arguably the best strike partnership in the league, and one of the best in Europe.

yeah. your right there

irishspur
2nd January 2009, 11:09 PM
Bloody bastards dont represent us at all any ****er on a galloping horse could see that bent was injured and as for booing ghaly ive never seen anything like it. Those so-called fans booed him as he warmed up and got ready and then cheered when he put his jacket back on. What does that do to his confidence imo he deserves a chance i checked our records the other day and he had the 2nd most assists for us 2 seasons ago after berba.

berbzy 'G'
2nd January 2009, 11:16 PM
I'm sure we had a similar argument about Keane getting jeered a little while ago.

What the fans done tonight was harsh. I wouldnt of done it

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 11:19 PM
I didn't boo Ghaly personally, though I know why some did, I think it's time to move on, and for these fans to realise that had Modric done the same thing he would be forgiven pretty sharpish. It's a bit stupid really. What I agree with more wholeheartedly though is not singing Defoe chants. Ridiculously unfair on DB10 and Pavlyuchenko.

On a side note on Defoe, I'm f*cking sick of Spurs fans going on about how he never got enough of a chance here even though we had Keane and Berbatov, arguably the best strike partnership in the league, and one of the best in Europe.

exactly why do feel so sorry for defoe! we were spoilt with having berba and keane.

TURKISH
2nd January 2009, 11:26 PM
exactly why do feel so sorry for defoe! we were spoilt with having berba and keane.

He didn't leave because of them he left because we brought bent for 16m.

gomessi
2nd January 2009, 11:28 PM
He didn't leave because of them he left because we brought bent for 16m.

I know but keane and berba were clearly the favored option. defoe was number 3. when bent came he was fighting to be number 3.

fluke
3rd January 2009, 03:04 AM
Does anyone think Harry was weighing up the crowd to see how the fans would take to having him back.

"OK Ghally get warmed up, oh er, second thoughts, better put your jacket back on lad"

Perhaps he'll be gone now.

WelshSpur82
3rd January 2009, 07:54 AM
if i remember correctly, Keane done something at Birmingham a few seasons back, didnt he storm off down the tunnell after not being put on or something,but everyone loves that pr*ck even though he jumped ship as well, Ghaly made a stupid mistake, is still here and is still being slated for it, Yes he was wrong in doing what he did, but it looks like he wants to at least try and get over it, but those fickle few who probably dont care, just think its funny to Boo someone, have probably made Harrys mind up to get shot of him!

JuicE
3rd January 2009, 08:31 AM
Fukk him!!! :thumbdown:

Indianspur
3rd January 2009, 01:20 PM
I couldnt believe the fans booing him!!! He is more skillful than Jenas and we need to see players like him to change our current demise.....

Modric needed to be rested after we went 2-0 up and i would have loved even harry to come on the pitch just so we can give our best players a rest!But because of the fans he stayed on 10 minutes too long!!

If fans carry on like this we'll never see changes with likes of youth players, Taraabt, KPB and GDS as Harry may just opt to keep it safe with the likes of Bentley zokora and Ohara so he doesnt offend our faithful fans!

Fcuk he hasnt been to prison for assaulting players/people like barton, bellamy and gerrard. he;s apoligised and possibly has had the worst punishment for 18 months which is a lot less than Bartons prison sentence.
As a dentist myself Ghaly was a legend to play with missing teeth cause i wouldnt have done that!

Ioang
3rd January 2009, 01:30 PM
Deserves a mutual cancellation of his contract tbh, he (surely by now) wants to go, nothing doing keeping him here however Harry rates him so we may as well cancel his contract, in apology even cos Harry did bottle it, imagine he'd come on and scored two goals? Perfect answer but he wasn't given the chance.

matthius23
3rd January 2009, 01:57 PM
imagine he'd come on and scored two goals? Perfect answer but he wasn't given the chance. Exaclty what I said to my mate! He's have been a hero if ended up scoring. We have such a fickle bunch of fans it's embarrasing sometimes. He's been punished enough... get over it.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4735841,00.html

Milney yid
3rd January 2009, 02:02 PM
Omg that video has actually just made my day, I love it. Favourite has to be... 'roman pavlyuCHENKO' to the tune of 'its magic'. Hahaha so bad.

berbzy 'G'
3rd January 2009, 07:24 PM
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/timetomoveon030109.html

The lad never meant any harm atall

matthius23
3rd January 2009, 07:32 PM
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/timetomoveon030109.html

The lad never meant any harm atall
Arry has spoken.

GQCoolest
3rd January 2009, 08:41 PM
To be fair to Arry, no way he could have known that SPURS supporters would react to Ghaly with that rubbish. Maybe Ghaly should get his first run out away from home, possibly against Wigan next Sunday.

berbzy 'G'
3rd January 2009, 08:46 PM
To be fair to Arry, no way he could have known that SPURS supporters would react to Ghaly with that rubbish. Maybe Ghaly should get his first run out away from home, possibly against Wigan next Sunday.

Exactly what I was thinking. Then if he plays well away from home, Tottenham fans won't jeer him anymore at home matches.

Mattyboii
3rd January 2009, 09:32 PM
some of the fans are really pissing me of lately
why the **** are we booing our own ****ing players
it is driving me insane
we get it on here every now and then
yes we all have sly digs at players a la Jenas
But then whe every now and they have ****s blasting players to kingdom come
if we have muppets on this forum doing it, its worse when we have thousands doing it in a stadium.
Imagine it in the new stadium!
its not on, it was what 18 months ago i think it said?
ive always rated him, hes often gives his best...
all players im sure have thrown a jersey down at one point, it was he wasnt satisfied with his performance i think?
i sometimes regret coming on here, only to see the players that i love from the team i admire being slated and it pisses me of soo much!!!
:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: RAAAAAAAWR:cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
btw did anyone see that goal against derby by smith... what a whooper!

matthius23
3rd January 2009, 10:07 PM
btw did anyone see that goal against derby by smith... what a whooper!
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1930022/

irishspur
3rd January 2009, 11:12 PM
some of the fans are really pissing me of lately
why the **** are we booing our own ****ing players
it is driving me insane
we get it on here every now and then
yes we all have sly digs at players a la Jenas
But then whe every now and they have ****s blasting players to kingdom come
if we have muppets on this forum doing it, its worse when we have thousands doing it in a stadium.
Imagine it in the new stadium!
its not on, it was what 18 months ago i think it said?
ive always rated him, hes often gives his best...
all players im sure have thrown a jersey down at one point, it was he wasnt satisfied with his performance i think?
i sometimes regret coming on here, only to see the players that i love from the team i admire being slated and it pisses me of soo much!!!
:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: RAAAAAAAWR:cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
btw did anyone see that goal against derby by smith... what a whooper!

I totally agree with that surely booing your own players it what they do at the library (eboue anyone?) we shouldnt be descending to their level.

berbzy 'G'
4th January 2009, 12:34 AM
some of the fans are really pissing me of lately
why the **** are we booing our own ****ing players
it is driving me insane
we get it on here every now and then
yes we all have sly digs at players a la Jenas
But then whe every now and they have ****s blasting players to kingdom come
if we have muppets on this forum doing it, its worse when we have thousands doing it in a stadium.
Imagine it in the new stadium!
its not on, it was what 18 months ago i think it said?
ive always rated him, hes often gives his best...
all players im sure have thrown a jersey down at one point, it was he wasnt satisfied with his performance i think?
i sometimes regret coming on here, only to see the players that i love from the team i admire being slated and it pisses me of soo much!!!
:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: RAAAAAAAWR:cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
btw did anyone see that goal against derby by smith... what a whooper!

Our fans started cheering when Gomes first caught the ball from the air during his bad run. I was at the Fulham game where we drew 0-0 and bearing in mind Bentley had a dire game, Our fans started cheering sarcasticly when he was taken off. It doesnt really help the players confidence.

singapore spur
4th January 2009, 01:03 AM
some of the fans are really pissing me of lately
why the **** are we booing our own ****ing players
it is driving me insane
we get it on here every now and then
yes we all have sly digs at players a la Jenas
But then whe every now and they have ****s blasting players to kingdom come
if we have muppets on this forum doing it, its worse when we have thousands doing it in a stadium.
Imagine it in the new stadium!
its not on, it was what 18 months ago i think it said?
ive always rated him, hes often gives his best...
all players im sure have thrown a jersey down at one point, it was he wasnt satisfied with his performance i think?
i sometimes regret coming on here, only to see the players that i love from the team i admire being slated and it pisses me of soo much!!!
:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: RAAAAAAAWR:cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
btw did anyone see that goal against derby by smith... what a whooper!

dont get too wound up about guys having a pop at a player on a forum like this , as long as they have a valid reason , sometimes you just got to vent your frustration , but agree with you that inside the stadium , and directed at OUR players is counterproductive and is one of the reasons that many people look down on spurs fans .

JuicE
4th January 2009, 04:56 AM
I think we need to get this in perpective!

We're mostly talking about underachieving, overpaid prima donnas. These guys are proffessional players that get paid a week what most get a year. Given all that they still don't try and put in the effort.

Bentley is fukking hopeless, he dives at every opportunity and goes down at a drop of a hat. He wastes corners, free kicks and crosses and can't run to save his life. In fact all he can do is the odd step over now and again and most defenders have got him sussed. The odd sparrkle of brilliance shows what he can do but it's all too little too often.

Rojoknapp
4th January 2009, 09:37 AM
I think we need to get this in perpective!

We're mostly talking about underachieving, overpaid prima donnas. These guys are proffessional players that get paid a week what most get a year. Given all that they still don't try and put in the effort.

Bentley is fukking hopeless, he dives at every opportunity and goes down at a drop of a hat. He wastes corners, free kicks and crosses and can't run to save his life. In fact all he can do is the odd step over now and again and most defenders have got him sussed. The odd sparrkle of brilliance shows what he can do but it's all too little too often.

I'd say that's about the size of it really :sad:

Shelfside
4th January 2009, 01:27 PM
Since the first ever ball was kicked at WHL,so many players have suffered the abuse of their own fans.As older fans have told me,even someone like Pat Jennings had the crowd on his back when he first got into the side.Likewise Alan Mullery and Terry Venables.It is just that lately the media are picking up on this.It is not just the booing of our own players.It is also the booing of our ex-players.The media are making us look like a lot of swivel-eyed,twisted,chip on our shoulder type lunatics.And really,we are putting it on a plate for the press.

Indianspur
4th January 2009, 03:22 PM
GOod job edman got a cheer from the faithful for his good service to the spurs so we dont seem all that bad!

peterc
4th January 2009, 03:33 PM
But we are not supposed to give our opinion, for those who did not attend, this is the opinion of Yid1962, what a load of b*llocks.

jrio
4th January 2009, 07:10 PM
I think we need to get this in perpective!

We're mostly talking about underachieving, overpaid prima donnas. These guys are proffessional players that get paid a week what most get a year. Given all that they still don't try and put in the effort.

Bentley is fukking hopeless, he dives at every opportunity and goes down at a drop of a hat. He wastes corners, free kicks and crosses and can't run to save his life. In fact all he can do is the odd step over now and again and most defenders have got him sussed. The odd sparrkle of brilliance shows what he can do but it's all too little too often.

The wages are irrelevant. They're paid outrageous sums because those are the amounts generated by the games. It's nothing to do with trying nor effort. Players are paid for what they can achieve on the pitch, not for running around for 90 minutes. Bentley's fee and wages reflects what he has shown at Blackburn. He hasn't shown that here. There have been glimpses, but I'd prefer to judge him in a full side fashioned by Harry. Most of the summer signings have been major disappointments.

jrio
4th January 2009, 07:14 PM
Since the first ever ball was kicked at WHL,so many players have suffered the abuse of their own fans.As older fans have told me,even someone like Pat Jennings had the crowd on his back when he first got into the side.Likewise Alan Mullery and Terry Venables.It is just that lately the media are picking up on this.It is not just the booing of our own players.It is also the booing of our ex-players.The media are making us look like a lot of swivel-eyed,twisted,chip on our shoulder type lunatics.And really,we are putting it on a plate for the press.
I'd be very sceptical about anyone saying Pat had fans on his back. Venners certainly did - he was a major boo-boy for our fans - and Mullery wasn't a crowd favourite for most of his time. I guess when you've experienced the likes of Blanchflower, MacKay, Jones, White and Greaves, you're going to be pretty hard to please, even when getting in the ground for sixpence.

olly27
5th January 2009, 11:48 AM
The wages are irrelevant. They're paid outrageous sums because those are the amounts generated by the games. It's nothing to do with trying nor effort. Players are paid for what they can achieve on the pitch, not for running around for 90 minutes. Bentley's fee and wages reflects what he has shown at Blackburn. He hasn't shown that here. There have been glimpses, but I'd prefer to judge him in a full side fashioned by Harry. Most of the summer signings have been major disappointments.

You really think that? Ok are league position supports what your saying but the only major dissappointment for me is Bentley. Fact of the matter is other factors have contributed heavily to our demise in the league.

Corluka has been an excellent signing and I see a long career for him at Spurs.

Gomes has only started to look convincing lately but I reckon he will grow from strength to strength. He will be our number 1 for years to come.

Modric has has been in and out for most of the season but he is now starting to show real signs of looking a class act and looks like adapting to the English game.

Still massive question mark over Pav and whether he can cut in the premiership. I think he has excellent movement and is intelligent with his runs but lacks a bit of pace although for the first time I saw an unbelievabe turn of pace against Wigan in the cup on Friday - more of that please! Not sure if he will be here long term but certainly has the opportunity to earn a long term career with Spurs. Question mark - yes, Major dissappointment - no way!

Bentley, major dissappointment - yes. Obviously we shouldn't be anyhwere close to writing him off yet but he has a lot of improving to do.

All in all are signings havn't been anywhere near as bad as you make out.

nuttyhotspurs
5th January 2009, 12:11 PM
I think we need to get this in perpective!

We're mostly talking about underachieving, overpaid prima donnas. These guys are proffessional players that get paid a week what most get a year. Given all that they still don't try and put in the effort.

Bentley is fukking hopeless, he dives at every opportunity and goes down at a drop of a hat. He wastes corners, free kicks and crosses and can't run to save his life. In fact all he can do is the odd step over now and again and most defenders have got him sussed. The odd sparrkle of brilliance shows what he can do but it's all too little too often.

well said. bentley has been absolutley diabolical since hes arrived. spurs fan or not , he has been inexcusebly and consistently BAD and thoroughly deserves every boo he has been getting. yes it aint gona help the guy but thats the way of the world

anyhow the fans pay to get in. i say they can do whatever the hell they want once they are through the turnstiles (within the law obviously) the boo boys will never be stopped while a team is playing this bad

nuttyhotspurs
5th January 2009, 12:12 PM
I think we need to get this in perpective!

We're mostly talking about underachieving, overpaid prima donnas. These guys are proffessional players that get paid a week what most get a year. Given all that they still don't try and put in the effort.

Bentley is fukking hopeless, he dives at every opportunity and goes down at a drop of a hat. He wastes corners, free kicks and crosses and can't run to save his life. In fact all he can do is the odd step over now and again and most defenders have got him sussed. The odd sparrkle of brilliance shows what he can do but it's all too little too often.

well said. bentley has been absolutley diabolical since hes arrived. spurs fan or not , he has been so inexcusably and consistently BAD and thoroughly deserves every boo he has been getting. yes it aint gona help the guy but thats the way of the world

anyhow the fans pay to get in. i say they can do whatever the hell they want once they are through the turnstiles (within the law obviously) the boo boys will never be stopped while a team is playing this bad

Apples
5th January 2009, 12:33 PM
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You really think that? Ok are league position supports what your saying but the only major dissappointment for me is Bentley. Fact of the matter is other factors have contributed heavily to our demise in the league.

Corluka has been an excellent signing and I see a long career for him at Spurs.

Gomes has only started to look convincing lately but I reckon he will grow from strength to strength. He will be our number 1 for years to come.

Modric has has been in and out for most of the season but he is now starting to show real signs of looking a class act and looks like adapting to the English game.

Still massive question mark over Pav and whether he can cut in the premiership. I think he has excellent movement and is intelligent with his runs but lacks a bit of pace although for the first time I saw an unbelievabe turn of pace against Wigan in the cup on Friday - more of that please! Not sure if he will be here long term but certainly has the opportunity to earn a long term career with Spurs. Question mark - yes, Major dissappointment - no way!

Bentley, major dissappointment - yes. Obviously we shouldn't be anyhwere close to writing him off yet but he has a lot of improving to do.

All in all are signings havn't been anywhere near as bad as you make out.

Summed up correctly.

The thing is we have all these new players and they have not had the time to gel together and as we saw players like Pav have barely had a chance to learn the language!

I remember my dad saying when he first saw Berbatov he rated him as a poor mans Martin Chivers and later on he was glad to be eating those words.

Modric, Pav, Corluka, Gomes are top drawer players but we haven't found the correct blend with the other players yet...I do believe Downing and Defoe would probably boost that blend but not sure if it will happen straight away.

gomessi
5th January 2009, 05:22 PM
Summed up correctly.

The thing is we have all these new players and they have not had the time to gel together and as we saw players like Pav have barely had a chance to learn the language!

I remember my dad saying when he first saw Berbatov he rated him as a poor mans Martin Chivers and later on he was glad to be eating those words.
Modric, Pav, Corluka, Gomes are top drawer players but we haven't found the correct blend with the other players yet...I do believe Downing and Defoe would probably boost that blend but not sure if it will happen straight away.

I remember my dad saying berba was a 21st century alan gilzean. I didnt know who gilzean was at the time:blushing:

bentley will be a top player he has been miles below his best I suspect HR knows this and probably rates him higher than Lennon (who I think has supsrised Harry)

funny how jrio sad gomes will be the biggest flop ever and his avartar has the biggest flop ever (at this minute in time). Not that jtio will ever admit he was wrong about gomes.

jrio
5th January 2009, 05:29 PM
All in all are signings havn't been anywhere near as bad as you make out.
Only Corluka came in and made an immediate impact. You can't just assess the players from the point Harry came in. As of today, Bentley's the only one who's almost completely failed to deliver, Dos Santos having played only under Ramos . Looking at the players who left, and the ones who came in, the trading was extremely poor, a major failure and the early results showed that. It wouldn't surprise me if Gomes, Pav and GDS all left in the summer.

jrio
5th January 2009, 05:39 PM
funny how jrio sad gomes will be the biggest flop ever and his avartar has the biggest flop ever (at this minute in time). Not that jtio will ever admit he was wrong about gomes.
You must have been in a coma for the first 4 months of the season. Those displays equated to being a colossal flop, something acknowledged by just about every pundit, and every non-Spurs fan. Having recovered to some kind of stability and showing increasing signs of confidence doesn't negate that. Gomes cost more than twice the selling price for Robinson, so that needs to be borne in mind when assessing how well he's done. A net spend of nearly 4.5m for a keeper who's managed to not be quite as bad as Robbo became is hardly a success.

gomessi
5th January 2009, 05:55 PM
You must have been in a coma for the first 4 months of the season. Those displays equated to being a colossal flop, something acknowledged by just about every pundit, and every non-Spurs fan. Having recovered to some kind of stability and showing increasing signs of confidence doesn't negate that. Gomes cost more than twice the selling price for Robinson, so that needs to be borne in mind when assessing how well he's done. A net spend of nearly 4.5m for a keeper who's managed to not be quite as bad as Robbo became is hardly a success.

first 2 months I though he was good then he had a horrendous period where he was making basic errors and his confidence went. Since then he has had several good games notably west ham away and man u at home and has looked a good goalkeeper in the last month which Harry has also said.

Bentley has been crap full stop no good periods and doesnt look good even when he plays right midfield and he cost DOUBLE what gomes cost us.

singapore spur
5th January 2009, 06:51 PM
first 2 months I though he was good then he had a horrendous period where he was making basic errors and his confidence went. Since then he has had several good games notably west ham away and man u at home and has looked a good goalkeeper in the last month which Harry has also said.

Bentley has been crap full stop no good periods and doesnt look good even when he plays right midfield and he cost DOUBLE what gomes cost us.

agree , gomes has turned the corner hopefully and had slight mitigating circumstances for a poor spell in as much as he started in a new league , with a different style of play and opposition to get used to ( i did say slight didnt i ? ) .
what is surprising is bentley , not short on confidence bordering on arrogance maybe , and with several seasons of premiership football experience looking so out of sorts for such a long period of time . im sure being played out of position initially , and change of manager can be an excuse for those desperately searching for one, but that seems an easy get out for me .

as regards booing though , i guess those that say you paying your money at the turnstyle gives you a right to express your disatisfaction are correct , though i still cant fathom out why these boo boys think its gonna help the team or an individual on the day to achieve success . its only gonna make things worse in my opinion .

Apples
5th January 2009, 07:21 PM
I remember my dad saying berba was a 21st century alan gilzean. I didnt know who gilzean was at the time:blushing:

bentley will be a top player he has been miles below his best I suspect HR knows this and probably rates him higher than Lennon (who I think has supsrised Harry)

funny how jrio sad gomes will be the biggest flop ever and his avartar has the biggest flop ever (at this minute in time). Not that jtio will ever admit he was wrong about gomes.

Ha thats funny I meant Gilzean too! Thats who my dad said...

Rojoknapp
5th January 2009, 07:27 PM
Only Corluka came in and made an immediate impact. You can't just assess the players from the point Harry came in. As of today, Bentley's the only one who's almost completely failed to deliver, Dos Santos having played only under Ramos . Looking at the players who left, and the ones who came in, the trading was extremely poor, a major failure and the early results showed that. It wouldn't surprise me if Gomes, Pav and GDS all left in the summer.

It would surprise me. Why would we let go of Gomes when he has recently shown potential to be one of the best in the Premiership, and he's only 27? And why would we sell Pavlyuchenko when he has scored 9 in 19 games for us, and is adapting to a new league?

berbzy 'G'
5th January 2009, 08:18 PM
It would surprise me. Why would we let go of Gomes when he has recently shown potential to be one of the best in the Premiership, and he's only 27? And why would we sell Pavlyuchenko when he has scored 9 in 19 games for us, and is adapting to a new league?

agreed. They are going nowhere. Especially with Harry who is a manager that is able to hold on to players. Look at all the class players he kept at Portsmouth for years.

gomessi
5th January 2009, 08:19 PM
Ha thats funny I meant Gilzean too! Thats who my dad said...

lol maybe both our dads see strikers in the same way.

berbatov could have been a legend if he stayed.

gomessi
5th January 2009, 08:21 PM
It would surprise me. Why would we let go of Gomes when he has recently shown potential to be one of the best in the Premiership, and he's only 27? And why would we sell Pavlyuchenko when he has scored 9 in 19 games for us, and is adapting to a new league?

jrio has never rated him even though he has been better than bentley. Gomes actually has had some good games cant remember bentley having one good game yet.

TURKISH
6th January 2009, 12:18 AM
first 2 months I though he was good then he had a horrendous period where he was making basic errors and his confidence went. Since then he has had several good games notably west ham away and man u at home and has looked a good goalkeeper in the last month which Harry has also said.

Bentley has been crap full stop no good periods and doesnt look good even when he plays right midfield and he cost DOUBLE what gomes cost us.

Agreed. Everyone jumped on gomes back and make a big deal about how he punches from corners when most keepers do in the league. James has made more mistakes than gomes this season he made three mistakes in one game in the uefa cup. Ive heard pundits say gomes is the worst keeper in the league and now he is doing well they can't bare to say a nice word about him.

You get the impression that some people including spurs fans want him to fail.:001_rolleyes:

olly27
6th January 2009, 09:30 AM
Only Corluka came in and made an immediate impact. You can't just assess the players from the point Harry came in. As of today, Bentley's the only one who's almost completely failed to deliver, Dos Santos having played only under Ramos . Looking at the players who left, and the ones who came in, the trading was extremely poor, a major failure and the early results showed that. It wouldn't surprise me if Gomes, Pav and GDS all left in the summer.

I forgot about GDS as he has been injured for a lengthy spell. We havn't exactly got much to go on in terms of judging him yet. I take your point regarding the overall trading but I still maintain that our signings, given time, will prove to be good ones in the main.

gomessi
6th January 2009, 09:46 AM
Agreed. Everyone jumped on gomes back and make a big deal about how he punches from corners when most keepers do in the league. James has made more mistakes than gomes this season he made three mistakes in one game in the uefa cup. Ive heard pundits say gomes is the worst keeper in the league and now he is doing well they can't bare to say a nice word about him.

You get the impression that some people including spurs fans want him to fail.:001_rolleyes:

tbf to spurs fans he is getting a brilliant reception from the fans wheras there was that game where he had irionic cheers.

gomes has had to get to a new league, the fact we made our worst start since the titanic sank, playing through injuries, loss of confideence etc. Now he is coming good so its great credit to himself and to HR (who bought in tony).

Gino Ginelli
6th January 2009, 09:58 AM
I forgot about GDS as he has been injured for a lengthy spell. We havn't exactly got much to go on in terms of judging him yet. I take your point regarding the overall trading but I still maintain that our signings, given time, will prove to be good ones in the main.

Dos Santos isn't an out and out left sided midfield player though is he? More of a forward player in the Messi / Ronaldinho mould (obviously not THAT good but you get the idea). So when he returns from injury he can fit into a number of roles. However he was signed under the Ramos regime, who no doubt envisaged him playing in a more continental set up that would suit his style. A Barca style lineup consisting of Bent flanked by Gio and Lennon, with Modric - JJ/Bentley in CM with it would now appear he wanted Diarra in DM.

Oh well.

gomessi
6th January 2009, 10:13 AM
Dos Santos isn't an out and out left sided midfield player though is he? More of a forward player in the Messi / Ronaldinho mould (obviously not THAT good but you get the idea). So when he returns from injury he can fit into a number of roles. However he was signed under the Ramos regime, who no doubt envisaged him playing in a more continental set up that would suit his style. A Barca style lineup consisting of Bent flanked by Gio and Lennon, with Modric - JJ/Bentley in CM with it would now appear he wanted Diarra in DM.

Oh well.

GDS played on the RHS of a 433 last season because messi missed most of the season.

HIS best position is as a second striker. Give him a year and I think he could force JD out of the team. He is more of a team player than jermaine and I think he will develop into a top player.

gomessi
6th January 2009, 10:40 AM
"If the manager puts me on the pitch I promise that I will give everything for him, for the team and for the fans.

"I want them to judge me on my performance should I get the chance and not something which happened in the past and which I cannot change."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_4754982,00.html

ih harry wants to sub him on in a game we are comfortably winning we should support him.

inthewoods
6th January 2009, 10:47 AM
I completely agree with the OP. I thought it was a disgrace when we started booing Ghaly and it made me cringe. If he gets his chance tonight, we should give him an extra cheer (even though i wont be there) to show him hes forgiven. I thought he was a good player for us and he has been left out in the dark enough.

By the way, our fans were an embarrassment on Friday night against Wigan.