Match Thread: Newcastle United vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[TURKISH]

Im going for a spurs win, but im more hoping than anything. I hate losing to these mob and owen is bang in form. We owe them from last years defeats :thumbdown: so hopefully we can come away with the three points and go on another run.

If we win this game we could hopefully start looking up rather than down but will be a tough game though. It could go either way sods law says they do us but fingers cross we can beat them geordie deluded **** wits.

[Baleinho]

Im sure we have a shite record against the toon?

Well Lawro's prediction annoys me.
Newcastle v Tottenham

"Joe Kinnear has done a good job so far at Newcastle.

The Magpies are picking up points and confidence is on the up. And surprise, surprise, a fit Michael Owen is scoring goals for them.

Spurs have a game on Thursday and I think that the Magpies will be lying in wait for them on Sunday.

Verdict: 2-0 "

Im sceptical; im going for 1-1.

[gazzaG8]

I'd take a point from this game, so i'm going for a score draw.

[berbzy 'G']

I got a feeling we will win.

The last time we played Newcastle, People were saying clash of the laughing stocks :001_rolleyes:

[GQCoolest]

Would deffo take a point here. With 2 very winnable matches up after this one, we could be top half by the New Year, but a point here is very important.

[Mattyboii]

2-1
1-1 At First Half
Mod to score in last 10 minutes
Bentley to score first in 20mins
and then Owen to equalise
soon after
but i have a good feeling
:D

[peterc]

Considering the present injuries we have, I'll be happy with a draw, so I predict 2-2.

[olly27]

I am normally optimistic - but not here. Too many injuries am afraid, I am going for 2-0 home win for the Geordies as much as it pains me to say it :thumbdown:

I'd be well happy with a draw considering the circumstances.

I here Lennon and Modric are doubts, if those two dont play we will get nothing.

[TURKISH]

Mmmm i can actually start to imagine newcastle winning two nil with owen getting both goals. I hope im wrong.:scared:

[olly27]

Mmmm i can actually start to imagine newcastle winning two nil with owen getting both goals. I hope im wrong.:scared:

Yep. Unless Modric and Lennon start for us. Hoping Martins doesn't make it for them as he always seems to score against us.

I would definitely play Ohara ahead of Huddlestone (he wont get any space against those mad men) I would go for, if they are fit:

Gomes

Corluka
Dawson
King
BAE

Lennon
Zokora
Ohara
Bentley

Modric

Pav

[gomessi]

I am normally optimistic - but not here. Too many injuries am afraid, I am going for 2-0 home win for the Geordies as much as it pains me to say it :thumbdown:

I'd be well happy with a draw considering the circumstances.

I here Lennon and Modric are doubts, if those two dont play we will get nothing.

if lennon and modric are out then I cant see us scoring who will supply pav!

we really need king back for this game.

[choda]

Yep. Unless Modric and Lennon start for us. Hoping Martins doesn't make it for them as he always seems to score against us.

I would definitely play Ohara ahead of Huddlestone (he wont get any space against those mad men) I would go for, if they are fit:

Gomes

Corluka
Dawson
King
BAE

Lennon
Zokora
Ohara
Bentley

Modric

Pav

On form, yes I would go with that too. That defence still gives me the willies but on current form it doesn't fill me with dread. Daws and Ekotto have improved a lot recently.

I'd like to put Gio in for Bentley, if fit, or TAARBY. Still waiting for that kid, looks like I'll be waiting til I die, lol.

[TURKISH]

My team would be if all fit.

gomes
charlie
dawson
king
ekkoto
lennon
zokora
hudd
lennon
bentley
mod
pav

[choda]

My team would be if all fit.

gomes
charlie
dawson
king
ekkoto
lennon
zokora
hudd
lennon
bentley
mod
pav

I can easily see Hudd getting murdered and the Zok struggling to cope with pressure.

O'Hara has to play, the odds of a spurs win are much greater then I think.

[choda]

Those northern monkeys always invade this forum on matchday as well. Watch the people currently online on Sunday it will be through the roof.

[TURKISH]

I can easily see Hudd getting murdered and the Zok struggling to cope with pressure.

O'Hara has to play, the odds of a spurs win are much greater then I think.

You could be right with hudd, but away from home i would think hudds passing would be vital. But saying that joh would get stuck in against butt, god we have such a shit central midfield.:sad:

[choda]

You could be right with hudd, but away from home i would think hudds passing would be vital. But saying that joh would get stuck in against butt, god we have such a shit central midfield.:sad:

I like JoH or his potential anyway, which is why I want him to start ahead of the proven failures; Zok, JJ and Hudd.

[irishspur]

Yep. Unless Modric and Lennon start for us. Hoping Martins doesn't make it for them as he always seems to score against us.

I would definitely play Ohara ahead of Huddlestone (he wont get any space against those mad men) I would go for, if they are fit:

Gomes

Corluka
Dawson
King
BAE

Lennon
Zokora
Ohara
Bentley

Modric

Pav
Apparently martins has no chance of making it hes out for several weeks which is a boost. If we have king on owen and dawson on Viduka/Ameobi we should keep them quiet.

[irishspur]

I went for a draw, this one has score draw written all over it.

[LifeTimeYido]

I like JoH or his potential anyway, which is why I want him to start ahead of the proven failures; Zok, JJ and Hudd.

I agree i would like to see JOH but i would like to see him alongside Zokora.

GOMES
GUNTER CORLUKA DAWSON/KING BAE
LENNON JOH ZOKORA BALE
MODRIC
PAV.

I would like to see Zok making a few direct runs into the box and for JOH to harass and chase.

I can see Owen taking a deeper role as wel...playing as a link up man...which rules out Hudd as his tracking and pace will let him down. JOH's passing can be just as good as Hudd's so JOH is a cert for me to start.

[Rojoknapp]

The only team I hate losing to more than these deluded tw*ts is scum. They're so f*cking cocky and it pisses me off so much when they do the double over us - THEY'RE FVCKING SHIT FOR ****'S SAKE

2-1 home win :cursing:

[Mattyboii]

My team would be if all fit.

gomes
charlie
dawson
king
ekkoto
lennon
zokora
hudd
lennon
bentley
mod
pav

Wow
lennons so goood...he gets to play twice in one match!!
Epic WIn

[TURKISH]

Wow
lennons so goood...he gets to play twice in one match!!
Epic WIn

Well my cloning machine is near compleation, but im trying to to make sure that i create this one with a left foot. :001_smile:

[choda]

I agree i would like to see JOH but i would like to see him alongside Zokora.

GOMES
GUNTER CORLUKA DAWSON/KING BAE
LENNON JOH ZOKORA BALE
MODRIC
PAV.

I would like to see Zok making a few direct runs into the box and for JOH to harass and chase.

I can see Owen taking a deeper role as wel...playing as a link up man...which rules out Hudd as his tracking and pace will let him down. JOH's passing can be just as good as Hudd's so JOH is a cert for me to start.

For this game, yea I'd go with the Zok, but I'm itching to try Corluka there with JoH. Convinced it is the best of what we have or at least something that deserves a good go.

Don't know why they don't trust Gunter, he is always solid back-up the lad.

[TURKISH]

For this game, yea I'd go with the Zok, but I'm itching to try Corluka there with JoH. Convinced it is the best of what we have or at least something that deserves a good go.

Don't know why they don't trust Gunter, he is always solid back-up the lad.

Gunter played well the other night especially in the second half. Crossing needs work but he looks a player.

[gomessi]

Well my cloning machine is near compleation, but im trying to to make sure that i create this one with a left foot. :001_smile:

a cloning machine would only clone genes it would still require an environmental influence (which lennon had because of his football education) to produce a left footed aaron lennon.:001_smile:

Your phenotypes results from the expression of your genes as well as the influence of environmental factors (the football education).

yep I know I need to take my head out of my genetics and biochemistry textbooks, am still in the middle of my 20,000 word dissertation:sad:

[choda]

a cloning machine would only clone genes it would still require an environmental influence (which lennon had because of his football education) to produce a left footed aaron lennon.:001_smile:

Your phenotypes results from the expression of your genes as well as the influence of environmental factors (the football education).

yep I know I need to take my head out of my genetics and biochemistry textbooks, am still in the middle of my 20,000 word dissertation:sad:

Think you are taking him a bit too literally mate! :wink:

[gomessi]

Think you are taking him a bit too literally mate! :wink:

I know, dont worry I'm not trying to spark another science discussion on here with you it would put everyone to :sleep:

writing a 20,000 word dissertation has had a bad effect on my mind when it comes to all things non scientific

[JuicE]

I know, dont worry I'm not trying to spark another science discussion on here with you it would put everyone to :sleep:

writing a 20,000 word dissertation has had a bad effect on my mind when it comes to all things non scientific

I bet you had no problem writing a 20000 word dissertation! It certainly seems to flow from you alright. :sneaky2:

[gomessi]

I bet you had no problem writing a 20000 word dissertation! It certainly seems to flow from you alright. :sneaky2:

lol I still have loads to do but yeah it does flow well... oh you were referring to that thread I'm sorry if you are still pissed off at me but that is in the past now. I probably read into what you said or what you didnt say a bit to critically. Hope we can just move on mate. :001_smile:

[TURKISH]

Think you are taking him a bit too literally mate! :wink:

You think.:scared: :scared: :scared:

[peterc]

The only result in our favour today, is the spammers losing to Aston Villa, we need to win tomorrow. Arry don't forgrt your TURBO magic wand.:scared:

[Mattyboii]

a cloning machine would only clone genes it would still require an environmental influence (which lennon had because of his football education) to produce a left footed aaron lennon.:001_smile:

Your phenotypes results from the expression of your genes as well as the influence of environmental factors (the football education).

yep I know I need to take my head out of my genetics and biochemistry textbooks, am still in the middle of my 20,000 word dissertation:sad:

and theres me flopping my chemistry and biology a levels :(

[gomessi]

and theres me flopping my chemistry and biology a levels :(

could do them in sleep now. a levels are piss easy these days if you work hard there is no reason why you cant get an A/B if you really want to extend yourself in science do a degree and pHd.

[gazzaG8]

Anyone got a link for todays game? I'm too lazy to find one.

[rootman69]

Anyone got a link for todays game? I'm too lazy to find one.

Should work http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-1645.html

[mjbmedia]

starting line ups

TEAMS Newcastle v Tottenham

Newcastle: Given, Beye, Bassong, Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Gutierrez, Guthrie, Butt, N'Zogbia, Ameobi, Owen.
Subs: Harper, Duff, Geremi, Taylor, Edgar, Viduka, Carroll.

Tottenham: Gomes, Corluka, King, Dawson, Assou-Ekotto, Bentley, Zokora, Huddlestone, Lennon, Pavlyuchenko, Modric.
Subs: Cesar, Bale, Gunter, Campbell, Taarabt, Boateng, O'Hara.

[TURKISH]

Free streams
http://www.justin.tv/directory/sports/socc...hot&lang=en
Should be a Spurs link up thre closer to the game

http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/17561/
None up till 30 mins before game

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=...amp;part=sports
Always your best bet

http://www.asiaplatetv.com/football.php

http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

http://www.watchlivefootball.org/

http://www.iraqgoals.com/en/

http://www.atdhe.net/

http://footballlivestreaming1.blogspot.com/
Might be here but a little early to say

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=48cb03bd8ab18
This channel shows matches and is of very good quality for a stream but unfortuantly not sure which game is on today. *EDIT* Seems they are showing the Spurs game at 5 CET (whenever that is) as a delayed broadcast. So depending on the reslt could be good to watch again.

Paid streams

http://www.liveonlinefooty.com/

http://www.footyonline.tv/

And last but not least Radio London for the best commentary ever ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articl...s_feature.shtml


Should be enough to keep you going but add yours if you have them....

[TURKISH]

starting line ups

TEAMS Newcastle v Tottenham

Newcastle: Given, Beye, Bassong, Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Gutierrez, Guthrie, Butt, N'Zogbia, Ameobi, Owen.
Subs: Harper, Duff, Geremi, Taylor, Edgar, Viduka, Carroll.

Tottenham: Gomes, Corluka, King, Dawson, Assou-Ekotto, Bentley, Zokora, Huddlestone, Lennon, Pavlyuchenko, Modric.
Subs: Cesar, Bale, Gunter, Campbell, Taarabt, Boateng, O'Hara.

Our team is miles better than there, so i bet newcastle beat us 2.0!:glare:

[gazzaG8]

Should work http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-1645.html

Cheers!:001_smile:

[Milney yid]

Argh ffs... Playing the better football but bloody assou ekotto lets us down again.

[GQCoolest]

We should be trying to get the ball to Lennon whenever possible and get the 2nd yellow on Jose Enrique.

[TURKISH]

We look shite. Can't see us scoring at all.:angry:

[TURKISH]

Corluka looks shite at right back when against a left winger with pace.

[GQCoolest]

LUKA! Huge goal there.

[Ginola's Son]

Yesssssssssss

[TURKISH]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS GET IN THERE MOD. That came out of left field. Great finish and lets hope we can improve on this. HA Mod scores against the club who choose us over them!:drool:

[matthius23]

Luuuuuka... we needed that goal!

[TURKISH]

Playing very well now, god i hope we win this!

[GQCoolest]

We're outplaying them by the way. Would still like to see the ball with Lennon whenever possible.

[mjbmedia]

i thought BAE was fouled on the goal

[Apples]

anyone got any smooth streams?

[TURKISH]

There left back enrique looks a player. Very quick.

[Jenas8]

We have played better since we have scored thats for sure..

[rootman69]

anyone got any smooth streams?

Not the sharpest in picture quality, but smooth stream.

http://www.justin.tv/widgets/jtv_player.r7c1cced1bfcd14f1ab670d6356a9fae2bcc441 2a.swf?channel=mysportsthree

[TURKISH]

Bentleys getting loads of space on the left, he needs to improve his final ball. Because at the moment he looks like he has no confidence.

[LifeTimeYido]

anyone got any smooth streams?


http://footballlivestreaming1.blogspot.com/

channel 8
password : 5000

[Apples]

Cheers lads

[mjbmedia]

i think a lot of our lads from the forum have been seconded into xmas shopping with their other halves/ Mums

[TURKISH]

i think a lot of our lads from the forum have been seconded into xmas shopping with their other halves/ Mums

Yep or mums and dads.:laugh:

[rootman69]

FFS these barcodes are going to do a number on us :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

p.s i'll take a draw now please santa

[TURKISH]

We rided out that 10minutes of pressure, hopefully we can sneak a goal.

[matthius23]

We havent come out this half have we... half time ALWAYS comes at the wrong time for us, just as we're getting into our stride.

[corkspur]

you just know they are going to do us with a late goal!!

[Milney yid]

LOL. I shouldn't laugh really, but somebody with Huddlestone's physique is never gonna be able to pull off a dive like that

[TURKISH]

Hudd trying to dive!

[peterc]

Hudds needs some training from Ronaldo "How to dive".:001_smile:

[TURKISH]

Pav is turd. 14m well spent comolli.:001_rolleyes:

[Shelfside]

The Hudd tries a belly flop and gets himself booked :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mjbmedia]

i thought Pav done ok today as he had little support

[matthius23]

Bentley has been so innefective on the left today...Taarabt has a left peg, give him a run out!!!

[TURKISH]

Get bentley off for bale.

[corkspur]

zakora breaking up a lot of play today in the middle,doing well.

[rootman69]

Campell you Utd muppet

[corkspur]

keane has just scored a cracker against the scum

[gazzaG8]

keane has just scored a cracker against the scum

Yeah, what a strike!

[TURKISH]

Come on jesus give us a goal.

[GQCoolest]

Ugh, that is just a brutal way to lose a match.

[rootman69]

Wtf is this utter f ucking shite

[peterc]

What kind of defending is that? FFS.:cursing:

[TURKISH]

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

[matthius23]

**** it...

[peterc]

you just know they are going to do us with a late goal!!

Happy now, you f*cking cursed us, you donut.:cursing:

[mjbmedia]

keane has just scored a cracker against the scum
so ****ing what this is a Spurs game thread and Keanes a ****

[TURKISH]

Im gutted, i hate losing to them muppets.:crying:

[rootman69]

Stupid f ucking c unts. Enough of that pish stain Bently. Ah, you know what just f uck it all.

[Ginola's Son]

Bloody boring shit.

[corkspur]

knew it wud happen,get the cheque book out harry,and buy a fcukin defense!! FFS! what a load of cack!! shocker!! very pissed off with that,we are still in deep shite guys,WBA won today and il lay money that they will beat us at the hawthorns.

[apr82]

everytime dawson plays spurs are suspect at the back is gunter injured or something?:thumbdown:

[mjbmedia]

we got what we deserved, stopped pressing with 10 to go , never ever settle for a point :crying:

Lennon another good game, Modric was coming too deep once Pav went off, great passes by Hudd.

O well WBA will be a 6 pointer next Sunday :scared:

[Milney yid]

Stupid f ucking c unts. Enough of that pish stain Bently. Ah, you know what just f uck it all.

I think your dp sums up how we are all feeling at the moment mate. Ah well. Merry bloody Christmas eh?

[TURKISH]

Harry ****ing cost us that, why on earth did he not make more subs during the games? Bentley was a pile of wank and should be dropped.

[corkspur]

Happy now, you f*cking cursed us, you donut.:cursing:

yeh,i cursed us!! from 800 miles away!! how long have you been a spurs fan?? conceding late goals is a gift we have for a long time!! YOU MUPPET!!

[choda]

Unlucky to lose but nothing came off for us in the final third today. We were well in control I thought, dominating the play, good in the centre of midfield!

By the way what is the point of Bentley? You have to drop a guy playing that shit. He's AWFUL. No pace, slow as Hudd on the ball, can't get his crosses off. When he has oceans it takes him so long and then his crosses are even shit.

Play Gio or Taarby or Bale.

When nothing was coming off for the others having a good left winger could have made all the difference today, something may well have happened for him because we had so many positions and really should've won the game if we showed more quality.

[gazzaG8]

F*cking shocking! Appalling defending for the 2nd goal, Bentley p*ss poor again.

[peterc]

Harry ****ing cost us that, why on earth did he not make more subs during the games? Bentley was a pile of wank and should be dropped.


Turkish mate, remember we do have a few injuries and Arry does not have many options.

[spursmadnick06]

Bentley an overrated English winger that can't beat his first man, and we are about to sign another one.

[Shelfside]

If christmas time wasn't miserable enough FFS.The defending was shocking on both of their goals and that has put us right into the relegation mix again.Pav did what he could,but Modric aside,he wasn't supported well enough by the midfield.As for Bentley,that display again shows how Blackburn mugged us much more than we mugged Liverpool for Keane.

[TURKISH]

Turkish mate, remember we do have a few injuries and Arry does not have many options.

He has bale. He has taarby and he could of brought someone on. Bentley should of been subed.

[corkspur]

Bentley is looking like a shocking waste of money!!how has he got so bad??

[nuttyhotspurs]

another shite performance to be honest. pav abysmal up top again. we never win ANYTHING in the air.hold up play, none exsistent. no matter who plays. pav hold up play is pathetic and clearly isn't enjoying playing for us.

bentley.....jesus christ what a fu*ckin complete and utter waste of money. absolute dog shit. no way is he a spurs fan. if he was he wouldnt put in these slow, lethargic gutless performances week after week. **** off back to blackburn or learn to ****in cross away from the goalkeeper u muppet

king shouldnt have played today, he looked unfit, was off the pace and was ball watching on the goal at the end

lennon...if we are seriously thinking of selling this guy...then the club needs to take a long hard look at itself. he is the ONLY positive thing to come out of this season so far. he looks the player now he should have done a year or so ago. his crossing has improved dramatically in the last few months and the only reason no one is getting on the end of them is because the other players aint good enough. by far the best player in a spurs shirt today

it is the only way we EVER look like scoring when he has the ball

we just arent a good side anymore...simple as, we cant pass the ball at all. we are just a horrible football side the majority of the time. to be fair we havent been since jol left. when we were on form under him, we looked like a quality passing attacking side. we don't anymore at all.

pissed off and going nowhere fast. absolute shit

[TURKISH]

Bentley is looking like a shocking waste of money!!how has he got so bad??

Because we pay all that money for a right winger and than play him left wing.:001_rolleyes:

[gazzaG8]

Unlucky to lose but nothing came off for us in the final third today. We were well in control I thought, dominating the play, good in the centre of midfield!

By the way what is the point of Bentley? You have to drop a guy playing that shit. He's AWFUL. No pace, slow as Hudd on the ball, can't get his crosses off. When he has oceans it takes him so long and then his crosses are even shit.

Play Gio or Taarby or Bale.

When nothing was coming off for the others having a good left winger could have made all the difference today, something may well have happened for him because we had so many positions and really should've won the game if we showed more quality.

Thats a point, does anyone know when Gio is due back?

[peterc]

yeh,i cursed us!! from 800 miles away!! how long have you been a spurs fan?? conceding late goals is a gift we have for a long time!! YOU MUPPET!!


I have been suporting Spurs most probably beore your parents decided to ever think of bringing you into this planet, if you were born before 1966, then I take it back. We don't ALWAYS YOU DONUT< suggest uou stick to your Irish cream with your Irish friend Choda.:001_smile:

[nuttyhotspurs]

Because we pay all that money for a right winger and than play him left wing.:001_rolleyes:

he aint good enough for the right wing. lennon pisses all over him. he needs to be dropped. preferable onto his head from a great height

[choda]

knew it wud happen,get the cheque book out harry,and buy a fcukin defense!! FFS! what a load of cack!! shocker!! very pissed off with that,we are still in deep shite guys,WBA won today and il lay money that they will beat us at the hawthorns.

Missed first half, was Ekotto badly at fault for the goal. Quick replay looked like that to me, very weak. Second goal on first viewing was just sheer class by Duff and Viduka. Daws looked okay to me.

We had ten or more better positions second half, but just didn't have any quality in the final third. It was good build up and maybe a bit of class and then the final bit gone or just messed up straight away when it was there for us to do something. Pissed with the front lads, especially Pav and Bentley who were f*cking shocking.

[spursmadnick06]

Has Bentley the expert set piece taker actually set up a goal with one of his set pieces this season?

[choda]

I have been suporting Spurs most probably beore your parents decided to ever think of bringing you into this planet, if you were born before 1966, then I take it back. We don't ALWAYS YOU DONUT< suggest uou stick to your Irish cream with your Irish friend Choda.:001_smile:

Thought you were 27 Peter. :confused1: :confused1:

[corkspur]

I have been suporting Spurs most probably beore your parents decided to ever think of bringing you into this planet, if you were born before 1966, then I take it back. We don't ALWAYS YOU DONUT< suggest uou stick to your Irish cream with your Irish friend Choda.:001_smile:

then take it back BITCH!! my,my havent we got out of the wrong side of the bed today!!!!!!we have always had a gift of giving away late goals! and lately a shocking defense! irish cream??? what are you rattling on about??

[peterc]

Thought you were 27 Peter. :confused1: :confused1:

And how would you know Inspector Choda?.:001_rolleyes:

[choda]

Because we pay all that money for a right winger and than play him left wing.:001_rolleyes:

Hasn't been much better on the right though. Not Harry's fault. But Juande and Commolli should never have bought him.

[choda]

And how would you know Inspector Choda?.:001_rolleyes:

Well that is what you said when most of the forum had you down as a misguided 13 year old. :blushing:

[nuttyhotspurs]

Second goal on first viewing was just sheer class by Duff and Viduka

not really. just defenders stood ball watching. made it easy for duff

[TURKISH]

Hasn't been much better on the right though. Not Harry's fault. But Juande and Commolli should never have bought him.

I can't believe harry didn't sub him or at least switch lennon to the left as there left back done well against lennon.

For once in a long while we look like we struggle to score goals. As much as i like modric, i like 442 better!

[peterc]

then take it back BITCH!! my,my havent we got out of the wrong side of the bed today!!!!!!we have always had a gift of giving away late goals! and lately a shocking defense! irish cream??? what are you rattling on about??


Whatever, as I said we have NOT ALWAYS given last minute goals away. we like many other teams have done on a few ocassions.

[peterc]

Well that is what you said when most of the forum had you down as a misguided 13 year old. :blushing:

Or was it, when everyone thought that you were still acting like a two year old spoilt little brat, who wanted to get someone banned for not liking the way he disagreed with practicaly all your so called opinions. Practice what you preach Choda.

PS: Inventing again, still waiting for your evidence that I said Defoe was a C*nt, having problems tracing it Choda?

[peterc]

Just saw their last minute goal, looks like King and Corluka are to blame for that blunder.

[corkspur]

Or was it, when everyone thought that you were still acting like a two year old spoilt little brat, who wanted to get someone banned for not liking the way he disagreed with practicaly all your so called opinions. Practice what you preach Choda.

Its official,peterc is "AN ANGRY MAN" and he does not seem to like the irish!!

[choda]

Well getting a striker is moving up my list of priorities now after buying central midfielders. I now have it equal with left back. Pav may still be settling, I f*cking hope so, because he is USELESS outside the box. Comes alive in front of goal but his hold up play is nowhere near good enough. Doyle would be way better, the ball sticks when you put it into him and he brings people into the game. And he would be half the price.

Bent isn't even in the game until you put him in behind, can't hold the ball up either.

If anyone thinks Defoe is the answer he's even more limited than Bent if you ask me, the smaller version who also tries to get involved deeper but is also extremely selfish.

Only half the game of a striker is goals, the rest of it is crucial too, which is why Keane and Berba were so good.

At the moment I'd nearly play Campbell even though he's a bit small for playing the lone striker, but he gives you more all round.

In Jan we need one of Adriano, Cavenghi or Doyle. Buy one and we are much better as a team straight away.

[Shelfside]

I don't even feel confident about playing Fulham on boxing day.They are in form at the moment and deservedly beat us at Craven Cottage.If we lose that one then pressure on us in the WBA match will be huge.And I am not sure if we can cope with that.

[berbzy 'G']

An embarrissing defeat to the useless geordies :angry:

[peterc]

Its official,peterc is "AN ANGRY MAN" and he does not seem to like the irish!!


Angry with our loss, yes, disliking the Irish, NO, except for stubborn ones like Choda.:001_smile:

[choda]

Or was it, when everyone thought that you were still acting like a two year old spoilt little brat, who wanted to get someone banned for not liking the way he disagreed with practicaly all your so called opinions. Practice what you preach Choda.

PS: Inventing again, still waiting for your evidence that I said Defoe was a C*nt, having problems tracing it Choda?

How am I supposed to find it you fannywobbler?

As for Jrio, that wasn't the reason, it was for the shit that you are doing lately and you will be thrown out hopefully if it continues.

You're acting like a knobhead.

And that was far from 'everyone's' opinion on Jrio, I can assure you. This is the guy that has been banned from most spurs forums on the net.

[corkspur]

I don't even feel confident about playing Fulham on boxing day.They are in form at the moment and deservedly beat us at Craven Cottage.If we lose that one then pressure on us in the WBA match will be huge.And I am not sure if we can cope with that.

yeah,that is going to be a tough game for us,and one we HAVE to win.fulham are playing well at the moment.

[choda]

Angry with our loss, yes, disliking the Irish, NO, except for stubborn ones like Choda.:001_smile:

Why do you bring me into every thread?

[corkspur]

How am I supposed to find it you fannywobbler?

As for Jrio, that wasn't the reason, it was for the shit that you are doing lately and you will be thrown out hopefully if it continues.

You're acting like a knobhead.

take it easy choda,its past peterc bed time and he is a little bit cranky,he should really go to bed and get up bright and early for school in the morning.i think he secretly loves you choda kid!!!

[TURKISH]

We need new strikers i would sell bent and pav. They are so one dimensional and can't hold or link up play. I wouldn't want keane or defoe but i can tell you defoe does more than bent ever did for spurs.

I would even be happy selling mod to juventus is we bring in two quality strikers like keane/berba who would get over 40 goals. I just don't think our midfield is good enough for a 5 man midfield. Modric is a luxury player and it just doesn't work. Maybe it would with a better striker than pav/bent but our midfield will need to score 20 goals between them and i can't see it.

[spursmadnick06]

I'd take Defoe back in a second, he can get you a goal out of nothing which is alot more than can be said for any of our strikers.

[peterc]

How am I supposed to find it you fannywobbler?

As for Jrio, that wasn't the reason, it was for the shit that you are doing lately and you will be thrown out hopefully if it continues.


Or you might for being abusive and name calling others just becasue we disagree with your opoinion.

You're acting like a knobhead.

And that was far from 'everyone's' opinion on Jrio, I can assure you. This is the guy that has been banned from most spurs forums on the net.

Not everyone's opinion, deffo wasn't mine. I hope tha you will be able to prove yet again, should Jrio request you to do so.

[peterc]

Why do you bring me into every thread?

Love winding you up rotten.:001_smile: :001_smile:

[peterc]

take it easy choda,its past peterc bed time and he is a little bit cranky,he should really go to bed and get up bright and early for school in the morning.i think he secretly loves you choda kid!!!



Hahaha, extremely funny.:001_rolleyes:

[choda]

We need new strikers i would sell bent and pav. They are so one dimensional and can't hold or link up play. I wouldn't want keane or defoe but i can tell you defoe does more than bent ever did for spurs.

I would even be happy selling mod to juventus is we bring in two quality strikers like keane/berba who would get over 40 goals. I just don't think our midfield is good enough for a 5 man midfield. Modric is a luxury player and it just doesn't work. Maybe it would with a better striker than pav/bent but our midfield will need to score 20 goals between them and i can't see it.

Well hold on there buddy, we have almost 2 points per game since Harry came in and cleen sheets in one third at least. I wouldn't rip the system apart so much. But one thing is clear is that in many games the ball is not sticking up top and we would be so much more dangerous if they knew what they were doing in linking the play.

Modric has been instrumental in so many games.

I would not sell him, but I would consider a christmas tree with Gio/Taarby and Lennon in behind one striker and Modric the head of a three behind that.

They can also stretch out to wing forward if a change is needed or to mix defenders up.

I don't see the point of 4411 width the way we are playing. We rarely ever trouble teams with crosses. Our players are much more suited to playing it to feet and in and around people and in the channels.

Most of our goals are actually coming via Modric quality or Lennon skinning someone and getting into the right channel to lay it on a plate.

Defoe better for us than Bent. Goals to minutes don't suggest so and we all know how bad his link up play and movement was here, shocking.

Plus no way in a million years he could play up on his own, that is suicide. He's a midget that can't hold the ball up.

[choda]

[


Or you might for being abusive and name calling others just becasue we disagree with your opoinion.

You're acting like a knobhead.



Not everyone's opinion, deffo wasn't mine. I hope tha you will be able to prove yet again, should Jrio request you to do so.[/QUOTE]

Come again simple man? You are abusive and highly irrational, don't be blinded to it which is why people react that way to you.

[peterc]

[QUOTE]=choda;

Come again simple man? You are abusive and highly irrational, don't be blinded to it which is why people react that way to you.

More name calling. I have not been abusive for quite a while now, irrational, well, talk about calling the kettle....... Suppose you don't see the way many answer to your posts, anway, still waiting for the evidence of your ungrounded accusations. End of. Use your pm, should you want a banter.

[choda]

By the way Zokora was excellent again today. I only saw the second half but he is being directed on how to play his role perfectly and he is responding. It's remarkable, he is now a guy calmly sitting, reading and screening the defence very well, breaking up play and not trying to do what he isn't able to do, just gives it dead simple.

[TURKISH]

Well hold on there buddy, we have almost 2 points per game since Harry came in and cleen sheets in one third at least. I wouldn't rip the system apart so much. But one thing is clear is that in many games the ball is not sticking up top and we would be so much more dangerous if they knew what they were doing in linking the play.

Modric has been instrumental in so many games.

I would not sell him, but I would consider a christmas tree with Gio/Taarby and Lennon in behind one striker and Modric the head of a three behind that.

They can also stretch out to wing forward if a change is needed or to mix defenders up.

I don't see the point of 4411 width the way we are playing. We rarely ever trouble teams with crosses. Our players are much more suited to playing it to feet and in and around people and in the channels.

Most of our goals are actually coming via Modric quality or Lennon skinning someone and getting into the right channel to lay it on a plate.

Defoe better for us than Bent. Goals to minutes don't suggest so and we all know how bad his link up play and movement was here, shocking.

Plus no way in a million years he could play up on his own, that is suicide. He's a midget that can't hold the ball up.

Defoes link up play was better and he could score a goal out of nothing. He could actually link up with a striker and was also dangerous outside the box.

[gazzaG8]

Well getting a striker is moving up my list of priorities now after buying central midfielders. I now have it equal with left back. Pav may still be settling, I f*cking hope so, because he is USELESS outside the box. Comes alive in front of goal but his hold up play is nowhere near good enough. Doyle would be way better, the ball sticks when you put it into him and he brings people into the game. And he would be half the price.

Bent isn't even in the game until you put him in behind, can't hold the ball up either.

If anyone thinks Defoe is the answer he's even more limited than Bent if you ask me, the smaller version who also tries to get involved deeper but is also extremely selfish.

Only half the game of a striker is goals, the rest of it is crucial too, which is why Keane and Berba were so good.

At the moment I'd nearly play Campbell even though he's a bit small for playing the lone striker, but he gives you more all round.

In Jan we need one of Adriano, Cavenghi or Doyle. Buy one and we are much better as a team straight away.

But Defoe is proven in The EPL. Though according to one of the Sunday rags, Villa are looking a Defoe for £10 Million.
I think Doyle would be a great addition to our squad.

[choda]

Defoes link up play was better and he could score a goal out of nothing. He could actually link up with a striker and was also dangerous outside the box.

Well I used to tear my hair out with him. I'd rather have Bent who would stretch defenders and not get involved until the chances were made for him. He's also bigger and carries an aerial threat on crosses. Defoe would come back and mess up moves constantly by picking the wrong options, and putting his head down and being unbelievably selfish.

Sure he scored some goals out of nothing, but if you go back and put your head down twenty times one of them will come off. He's not top dollar mate.

Bent's record is actually a lot better too. When he is first team he is always one in two in the premier league. Defoe scored one in three in the premier league for us, Keane 1 in 2.5, Berba similar.

We need better than both of Defoe, Bent and by the looks of it Pav too unless he is way off the pace still and destined to improve drastically in his hold up play.

[TURKISH]

Well I used to tear my hair out with him. I'd rather have Bent who would stretch defenders and not get involved until the chances were made for him. He's also bigger and carries an aerial threat on crosses. Defoe would come back and mess up moves constantly by picking the wrong options, and putting his head down and being unbelievably selfish.

Sure he scored some goals out of nothing, but if you go back and put your head down twenty times one of them will come off. He's not top dollar mate.

Bent's record is actually a lot better too. When he is first team he is always one in two in the premier league. Defoe scored one in three in the premier league for us, Keane 1 in 2.5, Berba similar.

We need better than both of Defoe, Bent and by the looks of it Pav too unless he is way off the pace still and destined to improve drastically in his hold up play.

I actually remember proving to you that defoe scores more goals than bent. Most of bents goals have come in the championship.

But i agree we need better than them.

[spursmadnick06]

I'd love Defoe back as you always felt with him that he could get you a goal at any moment, often when coming on from the bench when he started getting shuffled around, but when he was the main man his strike rate was good.

You don't really get that feeling with any of our current strikers.

[berbzy 'G']

The last thing we need is Defoe upfront atm. I really can't see him linking up with Bent or Pav. to be honest, Could you really see Defoe, Pav and Bent all link up? I'm f*cked if I can.

[choda]

I actually remember proving to you that defoe scores more goals than bent. Most of bents goals have come in the championship.

But i agree we need better than them.

No, you didn't mate. What you proved was that if you go back far enough Defoe has scored slightly more. However, Bent didn't score that many in the championship as a kid. If you go back far enough you are actually talking about different players because of age, development and so on. It's irrelevant really. Recent history, one, two, three years, is the most important.

Where you are dead wrong is that Bent burst into life in the premier league scoring one in two in the epl for Charlton 44 in 82 games or so. That's a fact, as is Defoe's one in three for spurs in the premier league.

This year when first choice Bent was once again one in two until he got dropped again.

[choda]

I'd love Defoe back as you always felt with him that he could get you a goal at any moment, often when coming on from the bench when he started getting shuffled around, but when he was the main man his strike rate was good.

You don't really get that feeling with any of our current strikers.

And the strikers we have have a similar strike rate, it's not all about goals. We need an all round player, which Defoe is way off being. As far and imo further off than Bent or Pav.

Campbell is actually closer than any of them and he's still just a kid.

[gazzaG8]

I know most of you will disagree with me, but i want Keano back.
He can link up, play finish well & would do well along side Bent, Pav or Campbell.

though, i cant see Liverpool selling.

[GQCoolest]

I think Bent will do fine if he gets the run out ahead of Pav. Not sure why he was dropped behind Pav in the pecking order. He would have certainly put away one of the two clear cut chances that Campbell missed today.

[TURKISH]

No, you didn't mate. What you proved was that if you go back far enough Defoe has scored slightly more. However, Bent didn't score that many in the championship as a kid. If you go back far enough you are actually talking about different players because of age, development and so on. It's irrelevant really. Recent history, one, two, three years, is the most important.

Where you are dead wrong is that Bent burst into life in the premier league scoring one in two in the epl for Charlton 44 in 82 games or so. That's a fact, as is Defoe's one in three for spurs in the premier league.

This year when first choice Bent was once again one in two until he got dropped again.

You said bent has got more goals than defoe, in that time period i showed you he didn't. Than you made changed your stats to when bent was allways playing charlton and when defoe was allways on the bench for spurs.

Also the reason why defoe is one in three is because he was allways coming on late on in games so it added up on his apperances.

Is there a stat of how many minutes they average for a goal? Or how many goals do they score in all the games they start in.

Either way this is old ground i wouldn't want to ague this subject because i wouldn't want any at the club.

[TURKISH]

I think Bent will do fine if he gets the run out ahead of Pav. Not sure why he was dropped behind Pav in the pecking order. He would have certainly put away one of the two clear cut chances that Campbell missed today.

Bent was out injured.

[choda]

I think Bent will do fine if he gets the run out ahead of Pav. Not sure why he was dropped behind Pav in the pecking order. He would have certainly put away one of the two clear cut chances that Campbell missed today.

You may be right that Bent would be fine with a run. But his hold play has to be consistently better and I'd prefer more of an all rounder. He has games where he is nowhere and not even running the channels to give options.

Clear cut chances for Campbell? I only remember a header that was very difficult as it was above him.

[TURKISH]

This is the goals per minute anwser.

Defoes.http://www.footballanorak.com/Jermain-Defoe-pid-208.html

Bents.http://www.footballanorak.com/Darren-Bent-pid-1232.html

[choda]

You said bent has got more goals than defoe, in that time period i showed you he didn't. Than you made changed your stats to when bent was allways playing charlton and when defoe was allways on the bench for spurs.

Also the reason why defoe is one in three is because he was allways coming on late on in games so it added up on his apperances.

Is there a stat of how many minutes they average for a goal? Or how many goals do they score in all the games they start in.

Either way this is old ground i wouldn't want to ague this subject because i wouldn't want any at the club.

Well it is rational to forget about Bent as a kid in the championship. It makes no odds, and it was also way back.

And the stats I gave you on Defoe, which I told you at the time, were for when he was first choice. I didnt even look at the last two years at spurs and what he scored as he was on the bench too much and it was hard to judge.

It ended when you just didn't believe me, but I wouldn't lie about it as I am only after the truth. If I was bullshitting I'd have to amend my opinion a bit, but I'm not. Bent will get you more goals or a similar amount based on the last years.

By the way he also has more goals than Defoe this year and less starts.

[TURKISH]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/bsp/hi/football/statistics/players/d/defoe_193388.stm

This stat shows that defoe has come on as a sub 103 times during his career.

[choda]

This is the goals per minute anwser.

Defoes.http://www.footballanorak.com/Jermain-Defoe-pid-208.html

Bents.http://www.footballanorak.com/Darren-Bent-pid-1232.html

That's only this year and only the premier league. Therefore not a long enough and true comparison but Bent's is actually better.

[TURKISH]

Well it is rational to forget about Bent as a kid in the championship. It makes no odds, and it was also way back.

And the stats I gave you on Defoe, which I told you at the time were for when he was first choice. I didnt even look at the last two years at spurs and what he scored as he was on the bench too much and it was hard to judge.

It ended when you just didn't believe me, but I wouldn't lie about it as I am ony after the truth. If I was bullshitting I'd have to amend my opinion a bit, but I'm not. Bent will get you more goals or a similar amount based on the last years.

By the way he also has more goals than Defoe this year and less starts.


Not true bent has scored 12 goals in 24 games. Defoe has scored 9 goals in 22 games. Plus defoe has made 3 assists and bent has made 1.

[choda]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/bsp/hi/football/statistics/players/d/defoe_193388.stm

This stat shows that defoe has come on as a sub 103 times during his career.

Of course, he was a sub as a kid at west ham, for england and at spurs in the last two years. Before that he was first choice at spurs and the stats at spurs up to the last two years are accurate.

Bent scores as many or more than Defoe. That is even how it is this year with our dreadful start and Defoe buzzin.

[TURKISH]

That's only this year and only the premier league. Therefore not a long enough and true comparison but Bent's is actually better.

It proves this season defoe has played less minutes and has a better goal ratio because of it.

As my other stat shows defoe has scored more goals throughout his career.

[choda]

Well it is rational to forget about Bent as a kid in the championship. It makes no odds, and it was also way back.

And the stats I gave you on Defoe, which I told you at the time were for when he was first choice. I didnt even look at the last two years at spurs and what he scored as he was on the bench too much and it was hard to judge.

It ended when you just didn't believe me, but I wouldn't lie about it as I am ony after the truth. If I was bullshitting I'd have to amend my opinion a bit, but I'm not. Bent will get you more goals or a similar amount based on the last years.

By the way he also has more goals than Defoe this year and less starts.


Not true bent has scored 12 goals in 24 games. Defoe has scored 9 goals in 22 games. Plus defoe has made 3 assists and bent has made 1.

Starts, not games buddy. Are you telling me Bent has started more games here than Defoe at Pompey? More goals and less starts is what I said.

[TURKISH]

Defoe 142 goals, bent 112.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/bsp/hi/football/statistics/players/b/bent_221712.stm

[choda]

It proves this season defoe has played less minutes and has a better goal ratio because of it.

As my other stat shows defoe has scored more goals throughout his career.

No mate, you are getting mixed up. It says it takes Bent 162 minutes to score a goal this year and Defoe 166 minutes to score a goal this year on average. Therefore Bent is shading it.

[TURKISH]

No mate, you are getting mixed up. It says it takes Bent 162 minutes to score a goal this year and Defoe 166 minutes to score a goal this year on average. Therefore Bent is shading it.

It says this season:

Defoe:

Avg Goal Mins When Starting:30.2

Bent:

Avg Goal Mins When Starting:35.7

[choda]

Defoe 142 goals, bent 112.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/bsp/hi/football/statistics/players/b/bent_221712.stm

Mate, you are losing all run of perspective and context, which makes stats inaccurate unless they are put into a worthwhile comparison. Defoe is older and has 66 more games under his belt.

And as I told you Bent took a while to get going. Comparing their kiddy records is worthless to us now. We need the longest snippets of action in the last three years while first choice we can get, which is what I gave you and proves that Bent scores at least as many and actually more.

[TURKISH]

Ive given you a worth while stat. You say defoe is a one in three striker well of course he will be with over 100 games coming on as sub. Defoe took a while to get going also so you can't use that to bents advantage.

Also defoe is only one year older than bent, defoe turned 26 in october and bent will turn 25 in feb.

[choda]

It says this season:

Defoe:

Avg Goal Mins When Starting:30.2

Bent:

Avg Goal Mins When Starting:35.7

That's a different stat and the only one Defoe is better than him this year. It's worth noting that Bent started the season starting in the worst team in the league and got zero service. As I said this years stats is a short period of time and Bent is actually ahead in most of the stats.

The more goals and less starts is still true. If Bent was less in and out of the team he would probably be more consistent. He does score as least as many or more than Defoe.

[TURKISH]

That's a different stat and the only one Defoe is better than him this year. It's worth noting that Bent started the season starting in the worst team in the league and got zero service. As I said this years stats is a short period of time and Bent is actually ahead in most of the stats.

The more goals and less starts is still true. If Bent was less in and out of the team he would probably be more consistent. He does score as least as many or more than Defoe.

Bent has started more games than defoe this season. All the stats ive shown you defoe is ahead. And that stat is the same one i gave you earlier but you clearly failed to read it.

Plus bent was still scoring when we had our crap start.

[choda]

Ive given you a worth while stat. You say defoe is a one in three striker well of course he will be with over 100 games coming on as sub. Defoe took a while to get going also so you can't use that to bents advantage.

Also defoe is only one year older than bent, defoe turned 26 in october and bent will turn 25 in feb.

No, you are not listening. He was one in three at spurs in the premier league when he was NOT coming off the bench. When started coming off the bench I didn't pay attention to the stats anymore as it was not worth a shit.

And Defoe has played 66 more games, which is true and relevant. And I agree that any kid's records are irrelevant to now. I never mentioned them, you did. It's too far back and makes no odds to now.

Over a long stretch at pompey Defoe will probably be one in 2.5 goals per game or even better. When starting Bent's career in the premier league has been 1 in 2 and I'd expect that to continue between 1 in 2-2.2 roughly.

[choda]

Bent has started more games than defoe this season. All the stats ive shown you defoe is ahead. And that stat is the same one i gave you earlier but you clearly failed to read it.

Plus bent was still scoring when we had our crap start, he scored 5 goals in 5 games at the start of the season.

He could have had ten then perhaps if we gave him service, like preseason. Defoe is not ahead, I don't know what you are reading mate. Context is crucial and you are just taking it literally which is not accurate in this case.

[TURKISH]

No, you are not listening. He was one in three at spurs in the premier league when he was NOT coming off the bench. When started coming off the bench I didn't pay attention to the stats anymore as it was not worth a shit.

And Defoe has played 66 more games, which is true and relevant. And I agree that any kid's records are irrelevant to now. I never mentioned them, you did. It's too far back and makes no odds to now.

Over a long stretch at pompey Defoe will probably be one in 2.5 goals per game or even better. When starting Bent's career in the premier league has been 1 in 2 and I'd expect that to continue between 1 in 2-2.2 roughly.

They clearly wasn't shit especially when you turn round and say "i missed that one."

[choda]

Bent has started more games than defoe this season. All the stats ive shown you defoe is ahead. And that stat is the same one i gave you earlier but you clearly failed to read it.

Plus bent was still scoring when we had our crap start.

Checked it there, Bent has started 16 games this year and Defoe has started 21 games.

Bent has 12 goals, Defoe has 9 goals.

[GQCoolest]

You may be right that Bent would be fine with a run. But his hold play has to be consistently better and I'd prefer more of an all rounder. He has games where he is nowhere and not even running the channels to give options.

Clear cut chances for Campbell? I only remember a header that was very difficult as it was above him.

Lennon got past Jose Enrique and fizzed in a cross 2 yards out, and if Campbell had gotten any sort off touch on it, we're celebrating a win. Right at the death, Campbell got loads of time and space, and whiffed a header rather than taking a touch and scoring, which could have leveled.

Regardless, we were the better side today, it's a shame the scoreline didn't reflect it.

[choda]

They clearly wasn't shit especially when you turn round and say "i missed that one."

I was trying to be fair to the lad. You don't get what I am on about. I am looking for a good long recent history in stats and fair ones. I was actually trying to be fairer to Defoe in this case.

[TURKISH]

He could have had ten then perhaps if we gave him service, like preseason. Defoe is not ahead, I don't know what you are reading mate. Context is crucial and you are just taking it literally which is not accurate in this case.

Look we could go on all day, if your not gonna look at the stats properly than there no point.

I will not continue this thread.:001_smile:

[TURKISH]

I was trying to be fair to the lad. You don't get what I am on about. I am looking for a good long recent history in stats and fair ones. I was actually trying to be fairer to Defoe in this case.

All i said was the best way to compare the two this season was goals per minute. That was all. Anyway im done, im gonna get some grub and have a bath.

[choda]

Lennon got past Jose Enrique and fizzed in a cross 2 yards out, and if Campbell had gotten any sort off touch on it, we're celebrating a win. Right at the death, Campbell got loads of time and space, and whiffed a header rather than taking a touch and scoring, which could have leveled.

Regardless, we were the better side today, it's a shame the scoreline didn't reflect it.

Personally I wouldn't criticise him on that. He just didn't get to the cross on first view anyway and right at the death it was one of those where it was awkward and he probably thought he didn't have any time.

[choda]

All i said was the best way to compare the two this season was goals per minute. That was all. Anyway im done, im gonna get some grub and have a bath.

Bent is ahead on goals per minute, lol.

[Indianspur]

i saw defoe last night in circle club manchester .....all the pompey team were out it seems celebrating their loss to bolton.
i try not to keep the arrogant footballers too much attention, but did mutter to defoe walking past come back to spurs..

just heard him mutter something like yeah alright!
we should go for arshavin now as need two playmaker forwards to support our two target men. if another striker required then maybe roque santa claus!

[choda]

Look we could go on all day, if your not gonna look at the stats properly than there no point.

I will not continue this thread.:001_smile:

What ever dude, I am the one looking at them properly.

[TURKISH]

Bent is ahead on goals per minute, lol.

This season, defoe is ahead per minute.

[choda]

This season, defoe is ahead per minute.

Bent one every 162 min, Defoe one every 166 min. Bent is ahead.

[TURKISH]

Bent one every 162 min, Defoe one every 166 min. Bent is ahead.

Im sorry ive totally mis read the stat.:blushing: Im sorry and im a tit. God im a ****.

[choda]

This season, defoe is ahead per minute.

Just read exactly what it is there, the one you showed me (avg. goal min when starting) and it's worthless to this argument. The avg. goal when starting thingy is for spread betting:

Goal Minutes
Goal Minutes is a spread market that is available on most televised Premiership games.

It is calculated by summing up the times of the goals of a particular player.

e.g. Michael Owen scores in the 23rd and 80th minute of a game. His goal minutes market would therefore finish at 103 (23+80). If a player fails to score at all, the market finishes at 0.

[choda]

Im sorry ive totally mis read the stat.:blushing: Im sorry and im a tit. God im a ****.

You're grand, but that is what I was trying to tell you.

[TURKISH]

You're grand, but that is what I was trying to tell you.

I will grab my coat.

[gomessi]

I'm sick of always losing to newcastle:angry: it feels even worse because they are ****ing shit and we were the better team:angry: :angry:

[JuicE]

You're grand, but that is what I was trying to tell you.

Choda, i'm sure you like Eminem but with that Avatar picture it looks...............................well.......... ....................................it's a bit Gay mate!!! :001_wub:

[mjbmedia]

By the way Zokora was excellent again today. I only saw the second half but he is being directed on how to play his role perfectly and he is responding. It's remarkable, he is now a guy calmly sitting, reading and screening the defence very well, breaking up play and not trying to do what he isn't able to do, just gives it dead simple.
on the stream i was watching you could hear Bond shouting and coaching Zokora as the match went on.

I thought the movement off the ball by all the players is getting better and better and we're going in the right direction, just unfortunate than whenever we would go up a few places witha win, we dont win :sad:

[mjbmedia]

Choda, i'm sure you like Eminem but with that Avatar picture it looks...............................well.......... ....................................it's a bit Gay mate!!! :001_wub:
ahh but what you dont know is the tattoo on Eminems arm is Irish hyroglyphics
for 'Roy Keane, Robbie Keane and Kevin Doyle are gods gift to football'

[cheatwarrior]

We should have drawn that match, nobody deserved to lose it. Good performance from both teams but unfortunately, stoppage time turns out to be our enemy again.

[gomessi]

We should have drawn that match, nobody deserved to lose it. Good performance from both teams but unfortunately, stoppage time turns out to be our enemy again.

its our fault we couldnt take our chances, fc ****ed up wheras duff didnt.

[LifeTimeYido]

I'm sick of always losing to Newcastle:angry: it feels even worse because they are ****ing shit and we were the better team:angry: :angry:

I have to live here, what a nightmare im having.......my neighbour left me a phone message after the 2nd goal went in......all i could hear were the barcodes chanting "Neeeewcastle.." so i let his tyres down this morning :w00t: :w00t:

Fcuking geordie cnut.

[wayne wonder]

I have to live here, what a nightmare im having.......my neighbour left me a phone message after the 2nd goal went in......all i could hear were the barcodes chanting "Neeeewcastle.." so i let his tyres down this morning :w00t: :w00t:

Fcuking geordie cnut.

LOL LOL LOL

How funny

[LifeTimeYido]

LOL LOL LOL

How funny

He found the funny side to it.......i lent him my mini compressor to pump them back up........it made me feel a little better.

[TURKISH]

I have to live here, what a nightmare im having.......my neighbour left me a phone message after the 2nd goal went in......all i could hear were the barcodes chanting "Neeeewcastle.." so i let his tyres down this morning :w00t: :w00t:

Fcuking geordie cnut.

LMAO, you should of also shag his missus!

[Gino Ginelli]

LMAO, you should of also shag his missus!

I'm guessing that the main problem with this is that she'll be a geordie as well. which means she'll be twice as big as the bloke is :scared:

[wayne wonder]

He found the funny side to it.......i lent him my mini compressor to pump them back up........it made me feel a little better.

hahaha fair play i usually just dont answer the phone for days

[LifeTimeYido]

I'm guessing that the main problem with this is that she'll be a geordie as well. which means she'll be twice as big as the bloke is :scared:

Na she is pretty fit...

http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=Stacey+Louise+Johnston&init=q&sid=67bea23164023dfd0b11b64028098290

[gomessi]

hahaha fair play i usually just dont answer the phone for days

I was doing that for the first 2 months.

[Gino Ginelli]

Na she is pretty fit...

http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=Stacey+Louise+Johnston&init=q&sid=67bea23164023dfd0b11b64028098290

:blink: :drool:

[Gino Ginelli]

Finally seen highlights (god i'm rubbish these days). My summising: Ekotto is shite. That is all.

[gomessi]

Finally seen highlights (god i'm rubbish these days). My summising: Ekotto is shite. That is all.

we should play bale. BAE is playing because he is supposedly better defensivly :angry:

[TURKISH]

we should play bale. BAE is playing because he is supposedly better defensivly :angry:

He is, he had made one mistake against newcatle other than that he has been playing very well lb for us. Bale can't defend and his positioning is all over the place. I feel we brought him in expecting him to be the finished article when he still needed to be coached.

Harry has also said he isn't great defensively and bae has to play imho.

We have never won a league game under bale and thats no fluke.

[gomessi]

He is, he had made one mistake against newcatle other than that he has been playing very well lb for us. Bale can't defend and his positioning is all over the place. I feel we brought him in expecting him to be the finished article when he still needed to be coached.

Harry has also said he isn't great defensively and bae has to play imho.

We have never won a league game under bale and thats no fluke.

in the first 2 months of last season keane and bale were our best players. granted he played left wing but he has enormous potential.

also BAE has been caught out numerous times even though I admit he has improved.

[choda]

in the first 2 months of last season keane and bale were our best players. granted he played left wing but he has enormous potential.

also BAE has been caught out numerous times even though I admit he has improved.

That's correct and the Turk is wrong about that, but I agree with him that he is better for now, but I he's always liable himself, just not as much imo.

[TURKISH]

That's correct and the Turk is wrong about that, but I agree with him that he is better for now, but I he's always liable himself, just not as much imo.

BAE is a much reliable left back than bale and he has played very well since harry has come in. In the newcastle game he was unlucky as he was leaning back to make the challenge and was barged off the ball at the wrong moment. There wasn't much he could do really unless to not commit himself and hope that our defenders was near to help.

Bale makes shocking decisions which end up in us costing goals, his stupid back pass for gilberto was there to see. BAE is much better than bale defensively and overall play as a left back is better. He knows when to go and when to stay. Is bae the long term anwser? I bloody well hope not, i would like to see bridge brought in with bale getting games at lw and filling in at left back.

Ive been very disapointed with bale, but he is young and needs to be coached. Harry knows what he is doing and the fact that bale doesn't start in the league games at left back or left wing tells you harry doesn't trust him at the moment.

[choda]

BAE is a much reliable left back than bale and he has played very well since harry has come in. In the newcastle game he was unlucky as he was leaning back to make the challenge and was barged off the ball at the wrong moment. There wasn't much he could do really unless to not commit himself and hope that our defenders was near to help.

Bale makes shocking decisions which end up in us costing goals, his stupid back pass for gilberto was there to see. BAE is much better than bale defensively and overall play as a left back is better. He knows when to go and when to stay. Is bae the long term anwser? I bloody well hope not, i would like to see bridge brought in with bale getting games at lw and filling in at left back.

Ive been very disapointed with bale, but he is young and needs to be coached. Harry knows what he is doing and the fact that bale doesn't start in the league games at left back or left wing tells you harry doesn't trust him at the moment.


He's not much better mate, he's just about more solid. And he's made numerous errors under Harry even though he has gone from completely shit to a so so defender since Harold took over. He's been good on the ball, that has also improved, but he was always decent going forward.

He was at fault for Zogbias goal too by the way. He had a few chances to clear it and in the end he was weakly pushed out of the way. You just can't do that last man and that's actually the third time that particular thing has happened in the last few months. I'd say they ripped him a new asshole and I hope they did.

You see that happen to a good defender once every two years.

[berbzy 'G']

BAE is a much reliable left back than bale and he has played very well since harry has come in. In the newcastle game he was unlucky as he was leaning back to make the challenge and was barged off the ball at the wrong moment. There wasn't much he could do really unless to not commit himself and hope that our defenders was near to help.

Bale makes shocking decisions which end up in us costing goals, his stupid back pass for gilberto was there to see. BAE is much better than bale defensively and overall play as a left back is better. He knows when to go and when to stay. Is bae the long term anwser? I bloody well hope not, i would like to see bridge brought in with bale getting games at lw and filling in at left back.

Ive been very disapointed with bale, but he is young and needs to be coached. Harry knows what he is doing and the fact that bale doesn't start in the league games at left back or left wing tells you harry doesn't trust him at the moment.

Thats a dream line up you got there in your signature Turkish :drool: :drool: :drool:

[TURKISH]

He's not much better mate, he's just about more solid. And he's made numerous errors under Harry even though he has gone from completely shit to a so so defender since Harold took over. He's been good on the ball, that has also improved, but he was always decent going forward.

He was at fault for Zogbias goal too by the way. He had a few chances to clear it and in the end he was weakly pushed out of the way. You just can't do that last man and that's actually the third time that particular thing has happened in the last few months. I'd say they ripped him a new asshole and I hope they did.

You see that happen to a good defender once every two years.

I personally disagree, he has improved and has even been praised for his recent run of form. Bale hasn't looked solid for a number off months now and feel more relaxed with BAE at left back imho.

[mjbmedia]

I personally disagree, he has improved and has even been praised for his recent run of form. Bale hasn't looked solid for a number off months now and feel more relaxed with BAE at left back imho.
agreed mate, with the breakaway Newcastle goal , where were the other people who were supposed to be covering??
BAE was fouled when trying to clear it, a clear push but attackers seem allowed to do that in those situations, perhaps next time he should get his elbow up into N'zogbias face and rearrange his features if hes just gonna run right into him.

Bales a liability at present, which is great considering how we've 'developed' him from being a great prospect to being a liability, another Tottenham development triumph!! :cursing:

[choda]

I personally disagree, he has improved and has even been praised for his recent run of form. Bale hasn't looked solid for a number off months now and feel more relaxed with BAE at left back imho.

He has improved quite a bit, I said that mate, but I still think he's liable to make an error that'll cost you. And I agree that I'd actually pick him at the moment. Actually what I would do personally is probably play Rocha there as he was solid as rock when he played there a few times and a tidy player on the ball.

[choda]

agreed mate, with the breakaway Newcastle goal , where were the other people who were supposed to be covering??
BAE was fouled when trying to clear it, a clear push but attackers seem allowed to do that in those situations, perhaps next time he should get his elbow up into N'zogbias face and rearrange his features if hes just gonna run right into him.

Bales a liability at present, which is great considering how we've 'developed' him from being a great prospect to being a liability, another Tottenham development triumph!! :cursing:

He was never developed as a left back mate and he's suffering the second season syndrome that has effected countless promising kids. He will be a world beater in time. What Harry did with Johnston was remarkable and Bale has a lot MORE potential than he did.

[TURKISH]

He has improved quite a bit, I said that mate, but I still think he's liable to make an error that'll cost you. And I agree that I'd actually pick him at the moment. Actually what I would do personally is probably play Rocha there as he was solid as rock when he played there a few times and a tidy player on the ball.

I wouldn't even entertain the thought of that especially when bae has played very well. I wouldn't call what he did against newcastle as an error he made the tackle and the only way to make the tackle was leaning back so of course he was gonna get pushed aside. No one was helping him and even if he did held him up (which was impossible in that situation) all zog had to do was stroll it to owen and than it would of been a goal.

On a much bigger fan site than this he was allways slag off and rightly so in juandes days. Than as soon as harry has came in his performances has been so good no one talks about him in a bad way.

[TURKISH]

He was never developed as a left back mate and he's suffering the second season syndrome that has effected countless promising kids. He will be a world beater in time. What Harry did with Johnston was remarkable and Bale has a lot MORE potential than he did.

Do you get the impression jol felt especially the way bale was performing that he was allready the complete package? Because jol/ramos should of been coaching him as he is only a young lad. He makes the wrong decision when on the ball and his positional sense is not there at this level.

His confidence is shot and he doesn't look that great anymore at lw.:sad:

[TURKISH]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4695713,00.html

Sems like it all bullshite the story of bale going and good because we brought bale as a talent who needed to be brought along.

[choda]

I wouldn't even entertain the thought of that especially when bae has played very well. I wouldn't call what he did against newcastle as an error he made the tackle and the only way to make the tackle was leaning back so of course he was gonna get pushed aside. No one was helping him and even if he did held him up (which was impossible in that situation) all zog had to do was stroll it to owen and than it would of been a goal.

On a much bigger fan site than this he was allways slag off and rightly so in juandes days. Than as soon as harry has came in his performances has been so good no one talks about him in a bad way.

I think you are getting carried away, he has improved, that doesn't mean he has been very good. King is very good, Woody, Hutton and Corluka are good or very good. They are not making anywhere near the amount of errors he makes. Even under Harry every three games there is a bad error from Ekotto. That's better than three per game like before, but it's still not good.

As for Zog's goal, bottom line is you wouldn't have seen that with the King, Woody or Corluka. Only once in a blue moon would they do these three things in one swoop, let a ball bounce, then not realise the big danger and fail to desperately get a boot on it and on the third count fail to have the strength to hold the attacker off and stay on their feet.

It was a very bad goal to concede and there were two other occasions it happened this year on break aways or defending when we had a corner where he was to lax in dealing with a critical break away situation.

What I like about him is he is very zippy and pacey like the scum full backs and he is becoming very cultured on the ball, but his defending still doesn't give me much confidence.

But credit where it is due is improving and if that continues then he could become a fine player, which would be a massive bonus.

[choda]

Do you get the impression jol felt especially the way bale was performing that he was allready the complete package? Because jol/ramos should of been coaching him as he is only a young lad. He makes the wrong decision when on the ball and his positional sense is not there at this level.

His confidence is shot and he doesn't look that great anymore at lw.:sad:

I doubt it to be honest, he was trying to ease him in. But Jol didn't know how to coach defenders or midfielders, did he?

The people he was good with were forwards and moves in the final third.

I didn't understand a word Ramos was saying so I doubt the players did either. It must have made communication, a crucial skill in football for the details and the meanings, very difficult.

But having said all of this I think he is also having a major dip like many young kids do, especially in the second season in the big time.

He will be back with a bang, much like I thought would happen with Lennon. We sometimes forget how young these fellas are. Bale is a kid, his balls have barely dropped.

He's an athletic phenomenon, very gifted and he will be a superstar if he wants to be. He will be developed and his confidence will come back as well.

[TURKISH]

Harry agrees and says he has played very well.

"He's got the potential to become a great footballer. At the moment Benoit has been playing very well."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_4695713,00.html

King cost us the point with corluka. Also played well in games against man city, liverpool, fulham, rovers, everton, west ham and then man utd. I personally don't agree with your your analysis of his performance.

[choda]

Harry agrees and says he has played very well.

"He's got the potential to become a great footballer. At the moment Benoit has been playing very well."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_4695713,00.html

King cost us the point with corluka. Also played well in games against man city, liverpool, fulham, rovers, everton, west ham and then man utd. I personally don't agree with your your analysis of his performance.

He probably just wants to praise the improvement, especially since he was despondent a few weeks ago and ready to pack the premier league in. You also have to remember the language I used on this thread and what Harry is using.

If in this case he said very good that means he would have said world class about King and top top about Corluka and Woody.

And those were not grave errors by those King and Corluka. It was an error, but even very good players can do that. That was really mainly pure class from two players that can be devastatingly good.

If you watch it closely we could have gotten tighter on Duff, and tracked his run off the ball, but it happened in a blink. The little quick triangles, one two touch, especially one with a beautiful weighted back heel and perfect touches is the hardest thing to defend.

To say Corluka and King cost us points sticks in my throat a bit to be honest because they are so consistently superb and rack up so many points for us.

What really cost us in that game was actually that we didn't show any quality in the final third as we controlled the game. We could've won 5-2 on another day if the ball was sticking and the last passes were coming off. Actually if just one of that was working we would have won.

And Ekotto's was a bad error, I don't care what anyone says, you have to be better with bread and butter situations like that.

I actually agree that he has potential, like I say he reminds me of Clichy and Sagna. Maybe he never got the coaching he needed, a raw diamond perhaps.

[TURKISH]

He probably just wants to praise the improvement, especially since he was despondent a few weeks ago and ready to pack the premier league in.

Those were not grave errors by those King and Corluka. It was an error, but even very good players can do that. That was really mainly pure class from two players that can be devastatingly good.

If you watch it closely we could have gotten tighter on Duff, and tracked his run off the ball, but it happened in a blink. The little quick triangles, one two touch, especially one with a beautiful weighted back heel and perfect touches is the hardest thing to defend.

To say Corluka and King cost us points sticks in my throat a bit to be honest because they are so consistently superb and rack up so many points for us.

What really cost us in that game was actually that we didn't show any quality in the final third as we controlled the game. We could've won 5-2 on another day if the ball was sticking and the last passes were coming off. Actually if just one of that was working we would have won.

And Ekotto's was a bad error, I don't care what anyone says, you have to be better with bread and butter situations like that.

I actually agree that he has potential, like I say he reminds me of Clichy and Sagna. Maybe he never got the coaching he needed, a raw diamond perhaps.

Im not saying that, harry said bale had potential. I would get rid of BAE end of season and replace him with bridge.

There second goal for me was school boy king could see he was playing the one two and should of tracked him.

Other than that imo BAE has played very well and i wouldn't blame him for that goal personally.

[choda]

Im not saying that, harry said bale had potential. I would get rid of BAE end of season and replace him with bridge.

There second goal for me was school boy king could see he was playing the one two and should of tracked him.

Other than that imo BAE has played very well and i wouldn't blame him for that goal personally.

I see what you are saying but I don't think it was that straightforward, sometimes you just hold your hands up. And I'm not making excuses because they are normally brilliant, I'd say the same for Dawson.

That split second it was played behind him, he may have looked to the right seeing as that was the first angle you'd think of with viduka's body shape but then he plays a beautiful reverse back heel and in the that blink Duff had already had in his mind what he was looking for.

As I say I wouldn't be too harsh, especially since it is a rare thing to be investigating these players.

The little triangles can be devastating, especially with a guy like duff who keeps it so close and people are afraid to dive in initially because he can make a fool of you.

[TURKISH]

I see what you are saying but I don't think it was that straightforward, sometimes you just hold your hands up. And I'm not making excuses because they are normally brilliant, I'd say the same for Dawson.

That split second it was played behind him, he may have looked to the right seeing as that was the first angle you'd think of with viduka's body shape but then he plays a beautiful reverse back heel and in the that blink Duff had already had in his mind what he was looking for.

As I say I wouldn't be too harsh, especially since it is a rare thing to be investigating these players.

The little triangles can be devastating, especially with a guy like duff who keeps it so close and people are afraid to dive in initially because he can make a fool of you.

Imo king was lazy and didn't do the simple thing of going with your man as it was obvious of what duff was trying to do.

Anyway im off il speak to you later. Dodgy flu i can' stay off the john.:sad:

[mjbmedia]

with their second goal, King needs to learn that theres a time to foul and take a yellow card and that was one of them. He doesnt always have to be perfect.