New Downing Bid?

[Barnes]

News tday is martin jol is swooping for stuart downing as a solve for the left side problem for 7.5 million and with steve maclaren at boro he mite even say go to spurs for a better england chance coz thats wer all the england players are lol! anyway great coup if it came off wt u guys fink???

[LEEBOYSPUR]

News tday is martin jol is swooping for stuart downing as a solve for the left side problem for 7.5 million and with steve maclaren at boro he mite even say go to spurs for a better england chance coz thats wer all the england players are lol! anyway great coup if it came off wt u guys fink???

Let's ****ing hope not. I do not rate him at all. I'd rather sign Gary Charles, if he can get day release from Wandsworth. Taxi!

[gbspur72]

Let's ****ing hope not. I do not rate him at all. I'd rather sign Gary Charles, if he can get day release from Wandsworth. Taxi!
Totally agree with you mate don't think he's any better than reto.

[LEEBOYSPUR]

Yeah...why is Reto out in the cold. I really think he is a prospect. MJ's only mistake thus far? I cannot see how loaning him out to Wigan will improve him. They can hardly be classed as 'Spurs of the NW'

[spurs61]

I agree, don't rate him. As I siad before, left footed (poor mans version of) Beckham, without the end product!

[LEEBOYSPUR]

[QUOTE=Barnes]News tday is martin jol is swooping for stuart downing QUOTE]

The thought of Big Martin 'swooping' anywhere is an interesting one....he'd need a re-inforced handglid:D

[LEEBOYSPUR]

I agree, don't rate him. As I siad before, left footed (poor mans version of) Beckham, without the end product!


...or the merchandising appeal. Could see him advertising varnish or something....

[shoot_ffs]

downing...... the unexciting product of the year. Does exactly what is says on the tin, but in a rather plodding, unimaginative way. Not worth more than 3m.
still think it might be jon greening.

[Chaydle]

I think he would be good signing. "Poor man's Beckham" .....if he has half the impact Beckham HAD then he would be fantastic. Good crosser at pace unlike Aaron Lennon and Becks and great at corners/free kicks, I can't see the problem!

[marcusto]

Nah not for that amout... 7million, well too much.... Buy Gareth Barry for 3mil... good utility player

[spurs61]

think it might be jon greening.

Hmmm, might be a good idea to get Jesus on our team.15

[Thfc4Life]

Hmmm, might be a good idea to get Jesus on our team.15

Lol he does have an eerily uncanny likeness of jesus.:eek:

[SurreySpur]

£7.5 for downing. Denilson for free. Its a very easy decision.

[Houdini logic]

Or me, all I want is 60k per week

[LEEBOYSPUR]

I'll take £55k p/w, a Ferrari Dino, and Evangeline Lilly on tap. Not much to ask for a 32, overweight, just-quit-the-fags left wing luxury player.....

[spurs61]

Not much to ask for a 32, overweight, just-quit-the-fags left wing luxury player.....

Are you Andy Reid's older brother?

[England's No.1]

I'll take £55k p/w, a Ferrari Dino, and Evangeline Lilly on tap. Not much to ask for a 32, overweight, just-quit-the-fags left wing luxury player.....

I don't think that would be a deal, Dominic Monaghan would have something to say about that. Damn, and you sounded so promising as well!

[Billywhizz]

£7 / 7.5m for Downing not for me, rather go down the greening route. been speaking to some Dutch fans and it appears Ryan Babel could be available for 10m euro's he has been attracting the likes of AC Milan , Foirentina so we proberly would not stand a chance there. I do like the look of Wilhelmsson for the L/M role he maybe available for the right money.

[shoot_ffs]

i think babel is a star for the future and he can play three roles so the money isn't too bad. I'm gonna suggest we will get a striker come wide player instead of a fourth striker. Wilhemsson would bring something to the team but wouldn't get many games in my opinion. I think greening would be good value, knows the league and played very well against us.

[LEEBOYSPUR]

Are you Andy Reid's older brother?

cheers son!

No. Not that fat, not Irish, not dark, can (just about) still outpace my mum.

apart from that, separated at birth

[Chinaman]

£7 / 7.5m for Downing not for me, rather go down the greening route. been speaking to some Dutch fans and it appears Ryan Babel could be available for 10m euro's he has been attracting the likes of AC Milan , Foirentina so we proberly would not stand a chance there. I do like the look of Wilhelmsson for the L/M role he maybe available for the right money.

With both Italian clubs deep in trouble and may well be relegated, we do stand a chance if we bid for him. I've said a few weeks ago that Babel fits us as a left winger and part-time/ emergency striker thus saving us 2-3 million on a 4th choice striker like Rasiak..

[highlander]

from what ive seen of downing at boro he doesnt look anything special, just a push and run merchant. for england however he did okay when he came on although it probably wasnt the hardest of tasks considering the opposition. i wouldnt want to pay any more than £5million for him but i feel he'll be one of those players we'll be linked with all summer with his chairman saying it'll never happen then on the last day sign him for a bit les than thought ala Jenas & Lee last season

[spurs61]

I hear strong rumours that Jefferson Farfan (Peru and PSV) is in talks with Pompey of all people! He can lay up-front, behind front men or on either flank and is very quick. IMO we should have a go for him especially if we really are after Babel, they are essentially the same player!

[highlander]

I hear strong rumours that Jefferson Farfan (Peru and PSV) is in talks with Pompey of all people! He can lay up-front, behind front men or on either flank and is very quick. IMO we should have a go for him especially if we really are after Babel, they are essentially the same player!
but he will come at a huge price, something like £8-9million, we dont wanna pay that much

[WelshSpur82]

Please no to Greening. We should be looking at far better than him.

[shoot_ffs]

i didn't like farfan from what i've seen of him play, though i thought the same of kalou and chelsea bought him. Think pennant and greening are better wingers, and wilhemsson looks a better all round team player than farfan. I still think greening would offer good value and is a proper lefty, every bit as good as downing.

[suBerb]

Duff, Downing, Kewell, Babel, Denilson, Wilhelmsson...Who will be?

[shoot_ffs]

well we are supposed to have approached wilhemsson and anderlecht so probably him. babel is the best wing prospect i've seen but ajax will know that, and i heard barca wanted him.

[suBerb]

Wilhelmsson is a decent winger, but we need a beter one.

[highlander]

Wilhelmsson is a decent winger, but we need a beter one.
yeah i agree, wilhelmsson is a good player but we need a winger of a higher calibre if we are to chellenge the big teams this season

[Chinaman]

As it is doubtful we'll be playing 2 out and out wingers in most matches, one super winger in Lennon is enough. We should go for a mid-price left winger to complement if the need arises for 2 wingers; and there's also routledge as a
3rd choice. I think we direly need a creative CM and I'd like us to go for del Piero.

[sundancer]

We will not get Duff or Babel, Wilhelmsson is not good enough, Kewell is never fully fit. With a manager like M.J. instead of Maclaren to coach him Downing is perfect.

[Chinaman]

Too pricey at 7.5 million. Wouldn't mind if it's 3.5.

[highlander]

As it is doubtful we'll be playing 2 out and out wingers in most matches, one super winger in Lennon is enough. We should go for a mid-price left winger to complement if the need arises for 2 wingers; and there's also routledge as a
3rd choice. I think we direly need a creative CM and I'd like us to go for del Piero.
we definately do need a left winger, we're so unbalanced without one. we certainly do not need another central midfielder, not at all, if anything we could do with losing 1 or 2 of them, and del piero is practically impossible to sign, and why would we want to, he's a striker who isnt exactly up to much anymore

[Chinaman]

Yes we need one, but not one from the very top drawer as most of the time either him or Lennon is being wasted on the bench. As I said, a mid price one like Babel who can also double up as a 4th striker would be ideal.

[cheltspur]

Jury's out for me. Undoubtedly a talent and a young, English one at that, but just how good he is, I'm not entirely sure. £7 mill is a lot of money to pay for potential and I think we're maybe at the stage where what's needed to push us on (presuming they're available and affordable) is one or two, international-class acts with decent european experience to push on to the next level and establish as genuine top-four contenders on a regular basis.

[Gregzy]

Hate to sound sycophantic, but if Jol believes he can get 7.5 million worth of results out of Downing then I say go for it. I agree, he's over-priced, but so is every England squad member; sometimes you just have to pay the market price regardless of it's value. All my fellow Londoners will appreciate this as an everyday reality, i am sure....

Del Piero wouldn't be a great idea, IMHO - a fading star who will only be after a last payday. I still think Denilson is worth a punt, but I think overall that the Big Man knows what he is doing and I will trust his judgement til proven otherwise. Been a long time since I've been able to say that with confidence about one of our gaffers....

[Keanoldinho]

I think we need 2 out and out wingers especially if Carrick stays and starts with Zokora in the middle. Them 2 in the middle would be very defensive and just one attacking outlet on the right would be to predictable.

I like Downing, Ben Arfa, and Denilson and think we should sign 2 of them 3 and sell afew midfielders. Reid and Murphy aren't needed and could generate a combined 5 mil or there abouts maybe more seeing as Heskey is valued at 5.5 mil.

Denilson is free so he would be nice and the money from selling afew players would nearly cover the cost of Downing. We got 2 wingers on the right so I would like to see competition on the left also and maybe Denilson could teach our youngsters afew brazilian tricks

[Keanoldinho]

I think he would be good signing. "Poor man's Beckham" .....if he has half the impact Beckham HAD then he would be fantastic. Good crosser at pace unlike Aaron Lennon and Becks and great at corners/free kicks, I can't see the problem!


exactly and one of boros best players:D

[singapore spur]

not convinced about downing either , but to be fair im sure most on here have seen more of him than i have , and if jol is seriously looking at him, he will have seen more than any of us . but 7.5 m seems steep to me , his price will be at least 1/3 over the odds cos boro can say he is an england international but i think he has got there by default as it seems there is precious few people to play in that position.

[suBerb]

Don't forget that the new signing Assou-Ekotto can play as a left midfielder.

[onthejazzin77]

I really must protest. I am absolutely staggered some of my fellow die-hard spurs fans, my peers if you will, geniunely think players like Gareth Barry, Jonathon Greening and Reto Ziegler are good enough for my club!!! I have watched Reto Ziegler on over a dozen occasions. He is absolute pony - on a par with Jonnie Jackson. This misfit was a sub for wigan - yes wigan - let me repeat that - he couldn't even get in the wigan first 11!!!!! And as for one person saying all that Stewart Downing is is a "push and run" merchant - what do you think spurs did during the sixties under the mighty Bill - yes push and run!!! The most sense Ive read on this thread is from Keanoldinho. We need 2 signings on the left and we need to lose Murphy, Reid and Ziegler. Stewart Downing may not have hit the headlines as much as 12 months ago but he is an excellent left sided footballer. Whoever thinks reto ziegler is better than stewart downing needs to take their fifa spectator badges!!

[mjbmedia]

thing is Downing probably aint gonna improve, he aint got much more to give, Reto will improve with regular games for a quality team .

[DarlinginJapan]

And as for one person saying all that Stewart Downing is is a "push and run" merchant - what do you think spurs did during the sixties under the mighty Bill - yes push and run!!!

Yes, but we pushed it to another player and ran into space! Downing pushes it down the wing and legs it after the ball! Completely different!!!!!!!!!!

Seems a bit like the Russian fella who was at Man U about ten years ago, sorry but his name escapes me for some reason. He just boots it past and then sprints after it!

[SurreySpur]

Yes, but we pushed it to another player and ran into space! Downing pushes it down the wing and legs it after the ball! Completely different!!!!!!!!!!

Seems a bit like the Russian fella who was at Man U about ten years ago, sorry but his name escapes me for some reason. He just boots it past and then sprints after it!

Is the Russian guy your thinking of Andrei Kanchelskis? He was able to 'boot' it past players as he was almost guarunteed to reach the ball before the opposing defender because of his blistering pace. Stuart Downing doesn't seem to have any pace at all, we already have enough left sided players that lack the ability to beat their man.

[DarlinginJapan]

[QUOTE=SurreySpur]Is the Russian guy your thinking of Andrei Kanchelskis? QUOTE]

That's the fella! With that chant "Oh-oh-oh Kanchelskis" to the tune of "You Can't Touch This" by MC Hammer!

[Keanoldinho]

thing is Downing probably aint gonna improve, he aint got much more to give, Reto will improve with regular games for a quality team .


what makes you think this?

[mjbmedia]

just my point of view and belief , no facts to back it up , but ive never seen downing do much to impress me , reto i can see potential there , more of a football brain.

[Keanoldinho]

just my point of view and belief , no facts to back it up , but ive never seen downing do much to impress me , reto i can see potential there , more of a football brain.


they're both still young, but imho Downing has shown alot more potential than Zeigler it's really no contest. Zeigler couldn't even get into the Pompey starting 11 but Downing was one of the best players in a team that went all the way to the UEFA Cup final.

[highlander]

obviously downing is better than reto, but reto has the potential to be a proper wide-man whereas downing, despite having age on his side, will never be a real wideman. also reto cost just £1million, downing will cost at least £6million

[shoot_ffs]

to be fair reto looked better in his first year with us than downing did this year. i don't think there's much between them, but i don't think downing is worth anything over 5m and as we have reto, i'd give him another chance.

[Chinaman]

Don't really think much of Downing. Would have to say no at anything more than 3 million.

[Shuggie13]

5 mil for Downing, off-load Reid & Murphy for about the same money, keep ziegler. Worth the risk, he could develope well under MJ.

[highlander]

5 mil for Downing, off-load Reid & Murphy for about the same money, keep ziegler. Worth the risk, he could develope well under MJ.
id be happy with that