Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Manchester United

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[olly27]

With Evra and Rooney suspended we might have a sniff here. Berbatov is bound to do what Keane didn't and get on the score sheet.

I am going for a crazy 2-2 draw with Lennon being our best player on the day, as Evra is out.

Modric to score his first goal and am going to be brave and say Jenas gets the other 1, just have a feeling.

2 ex Spurs for them scoring - Berbatov and Carrick.

What odds would you get on all that happening! We will probably get beat 0-2, but i'l be brave and stick with the above prediction.

[Spur]

I'm going with Luka to get his first couple.

And it'll be 3-2 - who to? You decide!

[rootman69]

I'm really looking forward to this. Fancy Spurs against Utd. Utd ain't playing to their potential yet and Old Trafford isn't the fortress it once was. Also it'll be nice to see the "invisible man" turn up and play the way we know he can.

[olly27]

I'm really looking forward to this. Fancy Spurs against Utd. Utd ain't playing to their potential yet and Old Trafford isn't the fortress it once was. Also it'll be nice to see the "invisible man" turn up and play the way we know he can.

Its at the Lane mate...:001_smile:

[irishspur]

We have a major chance of pulling it off they will miss ronaldo,evra and rooney badly lennon should have a field day given our record against the sky four ill go for 2-1 spurs with gomes, lennon, and corluka to shine. Id love to see corluka mark berba what a battle that would be sadly it will probably be dawson:001_rolleyes:

[olly27]

We have a major chance of pulling it off they will miss ronaldo,evra and rooney badly lennon should have a field day given our record against the sky four ill go for 2-1 spurs with gomes, lennon, and corluka to shine. Id love to see corluka mark berba what a battle that would be sadly it will probably be dawson:001_rolleyes:

Ronaldo will most likely be fit unfortunately...he's still nowhere near last seasons form mind you.

[Ioang]

The suspensions are perfect for us, Lennon will terrorise whoever they replace Evra with.

Having said that the sunderland game shows they have the luck/desire of champions at the moment so I'm going for a draw to continue our unbeaten streak against the sky four.

[MiloMinderbinder]

I've got a good feeling about this. I reckon for the first time since Stevie Carr's legendary thunderbolt, we may actually win. If we do it will be by a solitary bursting of the onion bag or the odd goal in three. Modric to make Ferdinand look like a **** more than once.

[irishspur]

Ronaldo will most likely be fit unfortunately...he's still nowhere near last seasons form mind you.

Hmm now well see what BAE is really made of. Anyway we usually keep ronaldo fairly quiet its berba and tevez that really worry me.

[olly27]

If we can keep Berebatov relatively quiet, and with Rooney missing, they may struggle to create enough chances. If they create chances all round we could receive a hammering. I don't think they will though, and expect Modric and Lennon to shine.

Who will Harry start up front though? Pav or Bent. I would go with Pav again, simply for his movement in the box is better, even though Bent is much more pacey.

I would like to see this team:

Gomes

Corluka
King (if he can play)
Woody
BAE

lennon
Zokora
Jenas
Bale

Modric

Pav


With Bent, Bentley and the Thudd on the bench.

[choda]

The one thing that I'm iffy about Harry is against the big teams and in serious middle and long term ambition.

I think he feels that you just can't really compete with them, he kind of fawns over them too much if you ask me.

I hope I'm wrong and that he feels that we can and that over time when he makes the team better that we can have a right go at them in the league as well.

[highlander]

The one thing that I'm iffy about Harry is against the big teams and in serious middle and long term ambition.

I think he feels that you just can't really compete with them, he kind of fawns over them too much if you ask me.

I hope I'm wrong and that he feels that we can and that over time when he makes the team better that we can have a right go at them in the league as well.

i seem to remmeber 'Arry having a pretty decent record againt the big guns especially United

[choda]

i seem to remmeber 'Arry having a pretty decent record againt the big guns especially United

Really, okay I take it back then.

I just remember him eulogising them a bit too much over the years and getting a few almighty tonkings.

But he did draw with Scum once or twice and beat ManU last year, as far as I recall. Di Canio did United, was that for a win as well?

Maybe not so bad actually.

[choda]

If we can keep Berebatov relatively quiet, and with Rooney missing, they may struggle to create enough chances. If they create chances all round we could receive a hammering. I don't think they will though, and expect Modric and Lennon to shine.

Who will Harry start up front though? Pav or Bent. I would go with Pav again, simply for his movement in the box is better, even though Bent is much more pacey.

I would like to see this team:

Gomes

Corluka
King (if he can play)
Woody
BAE

lennon
Zokora
Jenas
Bale

Modric

Pav


With Bent, Bentley and the Thudd on the bench.

Pav looks better all round I feel. I think his hold up play is showing signs of the euros in some games and will get better as he adapts. And he is very clever at taking up positions to score and is a deadly cool finisher.

Bent on the other hand has great pace and is clinical in front of goal but he's not showing any more than that right now. Mind you he does push teams back a bit, is powerful and pacey and doesn't come back and foul up the build up as he is no Keane, Berb or Modric.

But I like the look of the potential of Pav more, he's got some real class to come out I feel.

[peterc]

We will win this one 2-1, Evra suspended, Rooney injured and Ronaldo not 100% fit, sore ribs, we will be in the top half come saturday night. COYS.

[olly27]

We will win this one 2-1, Evra suspended, Rooney injured and Ronaldo not 100% fit, sore ribs, we will be in the top half come saturday night. COYS.

You think so Pete? Good on you for being positive. Didn't you get the West Ham predicition right?

Who are the goal scorers then in this one?

[inthewoods]

Im going for a 2-0 United win. We never ever seem to turn this lot over no matter how good we play, i.e the goal that never was, 3-0 up-5-3 down, tevez last minute goal...to name a few. I hate playing these bastards.

[GQCoolest]

I think we will get them, 2-1. We score the first goal at around 25 minutes through Dazza after Lennon skins O'Shea (I assume he'll be the one who replaces Evra). Around te 79th minute, they reply through some box pinball, and Tevez slots home. 88th minute, Nani tackles someone in the box, Van Der Sar saves Pav's spot kick, but Pav follows up for the 2-1 win.

[peterc]

You think so Pete? Good on you for being positive. Didn't you get the West Ham predicition right?

Who are the goal scorers then in this one?

Sure got the Spammer one correct and a few others, may I add. Big headed, not really, as for goalscorers, not realLy bothered mate, the result is more important. COYS

[peterc]

The one thing that I'm iffy about Harry is against the big teams and in serious middle and long term ambition.

I think he feels that you just can't really compete with them, he kind of fawns over them too much if you ask me.

I hope I'm wrong and that he feels that we can and that over time when he makes the team better that we can have a right go at them in the league as well.

Funny you shoud say that, please correct me if I'm wrong, however, when Arry was in charge at P'mouth, they always gave Manure and the scum a hard time.

[jrio]

Really, okay I take it back then.

I just remember him eulogising them a bit too much over the years and getting a few almighty tonkings.

But he did draw with Scum once or twice and beat ManU last year, as far as I recall. Di Canio did United, was that for a win as well?

Maybe not so bad actually.
Yep, 1 nil at OT in the FA Cup, as he did last year with Pompey. Pompey had a strong record at home against the top 4 in the league. Away they got thumped more than a few times, a consequence of modest resources. The eulogising is just a dampening down of expectations, paying homage to the records of the managers. I'll be expecting Berba to crumble in this game, faced with the remorseless derision of our fans. Yes, our most elegant player since Hoddle, but no one can refuse to play and no be met with ferocious criticism on their return.

At least a point, a late goal gives 3. Fergie would take a point now, lacking Rooney and Ron, and with Berba likely to be cow-towed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berba start on the bench, Tevez at the head of a 5 man midfield.

[gomessi]

The one thing that I'm iffy about Harry is against the big teams and in serious middle and long term ambition.

I think he feels that you just can't really compete with them, he kind of fawns over them too much if you ask me.

I hope I'm wrong and that he feels that we can and that over time when he makes the team better that we can have a right go at them in the league as well.

yeah I will second that I am worried about in the medium term/long term about whether harry thinks its even possible to break the sky 4

[gomessi]

if they score first I am fearing a real beating if I am honest.

hope berbasulk gets kicked early by woody and dissapears out of the game

[rootman69]

Its at the Lane mate...:001_smile:


Really, we're f ucked then :blushing: :blushing:

[Rojoknapp]

Ronaldo will most likely be fit unfortunately...he's still nowhere near last seasons form mind you.

he's got 8 goals in 11 pl games, having returned from injury a good way into the season. I don't know about nowhere near last season.

[choda]

Yep, 1 nil at OT in the FA Cup, as he did last year with Pompey. Pompey had a strong record at home against the top 4 in the league. Away they got thumped more than a few times, a consequence of modest resources. The eulogising is just a dampening down of expectations, paying homage to the records of the managers. I'll be expecting Berba to crumble in this game, faced with the remorseless derision of our fans. Yes, our most elegant player since Hoddle, but no one can refuse to play and no be met with ferocious criticism on their return.

At least a point, a late goal gives 3. Fergie would take a point now, lacking Rooney and Ron, and with Berba likely to be cow-towed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berba start on the bench, Tevez at the head of a 5 man midfield.

Very good points.

[choda]

You think so Pete? Good on you for being positive. Didn't you get the West Ham predicition right?

Who are the goal scorers then in this one?

Got watford spurs right, lazio inter, arsenal wigan and wham spurs since I starting looking at odds and things recently.

But I'm not getting ahead of myself. I'm keeping my own bets very careful, so it doesn't end up like this: :crying:

It's good fun though.

[berbzy 'G']

I can see this game going wrong for us. Hope I'm wrong :thumbdown:

[mjbmedia]

Really, okay I take it back then.

I just remember him eulogising them a bit too much over the years and getting a few almighty tonkings.

But he did draw with Scum once or twice and beat ManU last year, as far as I recall. Di Canio did United, was that for a win as well?

Maybe not so bad actually.
oi eulogising is my word for this week, get your own

[Spur]

oi eulogising is my word for this week, get your own

Ideological was yours.

[TURKISH]

I can't see united dropping more points and we hardly ever beat the top four. I see united winning by two goals. 3.1:sad:

[wayne wonder]

i dont see why we cant win for some reason this season the top4 aren't as strong its bizarre ans teams arent really scared of them.

I'll be very disappointed if we dont get least a point

[olly27]

Yep, 1 nil at OT in the FA Cup, as he did last year with Pompey. Pompey had a strong record at home against the top 4 in the league. Away they got thumped more than a few times, a consequence of modest resources. The eulogising is just a dampening down of expectations, paying homage to the records of the managers. I'll be expecting Berba to crumble in this game, faced with the remorseless derision of our fans. Yes, our most elegant player since Hoddle, but no one can refuse to play and no be met with ferocious criticism on their return.

At least a point, a late goal gives 3. Fergie would take a point now, lacking Rooney and Ron, and with Berba likely to be cow-towed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Berba start on the bench, Tevez at the head of a 5 man midfield.

He wont be starting against Alborg, so he will definitely start on Saturday.

[olly27]

he's got 8 goals in 11 pl games, having returned from injury a good way into the season. I don't know about nowhere near last season.

Well its doubtful he will repeat the same insane records he set last season, you know what I mean.

[mjbmedia]

Ideological was yours.
jeez im on a roll this week two long words eulogising and idealogical .
It hurts being so clever :001_smile:

[JuicE]

Round of applause to the psychics!

I got most predictions right too but forgot to mention it! :sleep:
Yeah! go on waste 3 hours looking through all the posts if you want to.

Anyway it's a Manu win, possible draw! We wont, Can't win as we were lucky to beat Wetspam! I mean really lucky! Gomes touched the ball once or twice in the 2nd half.
If they had attempted to score more than twice they may have. we were ordinary at best and you're dreaming if you think we'll win this one.
We are miles away from our best ATM.
Bentley is crap and can't cross a ****ing zebra! :cursing: King out again no doubt, JJ and Zok in the middle and a lone, very alone striker!


















Hope i'm wrong though! :001_rolleyes:

[mjbmedia]

Hope i'm wrong though! :001_rolleyes:
well you're a wrongun' thats for sure

[corkspur]

we have claimed points off the so called top 4 this season,1 at chelski, 1 at the scums,3 against the pool.think we can see that continue with at least a point against united.

[JuicE]

well you're a wrongun' thats for sure

LOL you can talk! :001_rolleyes:

[Gino Ginelli]

Strangely we always up our game considerably for these games. Which irritates the hell out of me because it shows what we are really capable of. But then we slide back into the false sense of complacency against "lesser" opposition, despite the fact that there aren't any lesser teams this season. Frustrating as hell.

But anyway, I see us playing out of our skin. Modric will be the lynchpin in final third, and Lennon may well make the back four cry. The game rests on the performance of the midfield as ever here. I reccomend O'Hara at LW, possibly even LB as he's tenacious enough to make life hard for Ronaldo. BAE will get sent off playing against him, I can just see it. Bale just wouldn't cope with his current form either, and would be more effective pushed on anyway I reckon.

Zokora should get the nod for his protection of the back four, and I hate to say it but JJ always has a good game against Manure. He won't be vastly effective creatively, but he'll be our water carrier; a vital role against this level of opposition, and he's the only midfielder we have who can do it. He's nowt special but he's our workhorse, and that's why he always plays in the big games.

Berbatov and Tevez are going to be a tough test, but I can't wait to see Woody take out ball first then the man, and leave Berba crying against the advertising boardings. But we all know what Berba is capable of. Arrogant and mercenary he may be, but he's also the most naturally gifted attacking player since Cantona and Zidane. His touch and close control is frankly astonishing, so we have to make absolutely sure he gets zero time on the ball.

I see us taking the lead, with Manure coming back in the second half to equalise. 1-1.

[olly27]

]Strangely we always up our game considerably for these games. Which irritates the hell out of me because it shows what we are really capable of. [/B]But then we slide back into the false sense of complacency against "lesser" opposition, despite the fact that there aren't any lesser teams this season. Frustrating as hell.

But anyway, I see us playing out of our skin. Modric will be the lynchpin in final third, and Lennon may well make the back four cry. The game rests on the performance of the midfield as ever here. I reccomend O'Hara at LW, possibly even LB as he's tenacious enough to make life hard for Ronaldo. BAE will get sent off playing against him, I can just see it. Bale just wouldn't cope with his current form either, and would be more effective pushed on anyway I reckon.

Zokora should get the nod for his protection of the back four, and I hate to say it but JJ always has a good game against Manure. He won't be vastly effective creatively, but he'll be our water carrier; a vital role against this level of opposition, and he's the only midfielder we have who can do it. He's nowt special but he's our workhorse, and that's why he always plays in the big games.

Berbatov and Tevez are going to be a tough test, but I can't wait to see Woody take out ball first then the man, and leave Berba crying against the advertising boardings. But we all know what Berba is capable of. Arrogant and mercenary he may be, but he's also the most naturally gifted attacking player since Cantona and Zidane. His touch and close control is frankly astonishing, so we have to make absolutely sure he gets zero time on the ball.

I see us taking the lead, with Manure coming back in the second half to equalise. 1-1.


Completely agree and its so annoying!

You just know we will play really well on Saturday and take a point and then not even turn up at Newcastle a week later and lose 2-0.

Back to Saturday, if King starts and Woody has a blinder I dont think they will get too much joy. Big games though for Zokora and Jenas, they need to be able to give the ball to Lennon and Modric, are two most influential players by far, and the more they can do this the more chance we have of some joy.

If Zokora and Jenas have big games I can see us taking at least a point. We always raise our game against the top 4 and the atmosphere should be spiced up with Berbatov on the field.

The young lad, Rafael I think he's called, looks a huge talent at right back and loves to get forward. I mean if he starts behind Ronaldo God help BAE. Actually BAE, if he starts, needs to have his best game in a Spurs shirt! Well he is improving of late so we shall see.

Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't Ohara faced Ronaldo before, playing LB, and kept him very quiet? Was it against them in the FA Cup last season? - or was it in the league game, I can't remember.

Ohara at LB and Bale ahead of him would be an interesting selection(and one I wouldn't mind seeing), but Harry will probably go on what he has seen so far, and play BAE at LB and Bentley ahead of him.

[Gino Ginelli]

Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't Ohara faced Ronaldo before, playing LB, and kept him very quiet? Was it against them in the FA Cup last season? - or was it in the league game, I can't remember.

Ohara at LB and Bale ahead of him would be an interesting selection(and one I wouldn't mind seeing), but Harry will probably go on what he has seen so far, and play BAE at LB and Bentley ahead of him.

Precisley what prompted my to suggest it. He did indeed keep Ronaldo quite (well, relatively speaking. He didn't score that game, which on last seasons standards for him was a feat unto itself!).

By no means his best position, CM is where he needs to play to show what he can really do (ie: Monday night), but his tenacious nature is exactly whats needed against him.

Having said that (and I digress now) I recall that many a teams approach to coping with Ginola's skill was to put another left footed player at RB. That way Ginola struggled to pull off as many of his tricks to any great success. A solution against Ronaldo may to put Corluka on the left instead, just to offset Ronaldo's tricks etc... just a thought.

[Spur]

O'Hara at Left Back is asking for trouble. Once was needed, but twice is stupid.

Play him in front if anything and tell him to cover. Bale isn't what we need right now.

[Spur]

jeez im on a roll this week two long words eulogising and idealogical .
It hurts being so clever :001_smile:

In fairness you've spelt Ideological wrong three times now.

[TURKISH]

In fairness you've spelt Ideological wrong three times now.

HA HA how funny.:laugh:

[olly27]

Well I would put Ohara on the left hand side of midfield. With Jenas and Zokora inside of him, that for me would look quite a tenacious looking midfield. Ohara staying ultra disciplined and covering BAE. Our threat mainly coming through Lennon on the right and Modric ahead.

Ohara's position is in the centre though, but for this game the left hand side is where I would have him.

[TURKISH]

Well I would put Ohara on the left hand side of midfield. With Jenas and Zokora inside of him, that for me would look quite a tenacious looking midfield. Ohara staying ultra disciplined and covering BAE. Our threat mainly coming through Lennon on the right and Modric ahead.

Ohara's position is in the centre though, but for this game the left hand side is where I would have him.

If joh was to play lw than he needs to stay left wing, instead of walking inside all the time.

I would have the same team against west ham, lets go for it!

[mjbmedia]

In fairness you've spelt Ideological wrong three times now.
hahahahaha bollox
hey idealogical is my own word tho ,
'ideological', huh its so last season :blushing:

[gomessi]

i dont see why we cant win for some reason this season the top4 aren't as strong its bizarre ans teams arent really scared of them.

I'll be very disappointed if we dont get least a point

look at the table wayne!

[olly27]

If joh was to play lw than he needs to stay left wing, instead of walking inside all the time.

I would have the same team against west ham, lets go for it!

I know mate and he tends to do that when he is out on the left hand side. I just like the tenacity he offers.

It will most likely be the same team anyway which I will be happy about, just depends if King starts.

If Bentley starts he needs to start producing, no time like the present - United at home!

Yeah lets go for it!

[wayne wonder]

look at the table wayne!

No not in that sense i mean who'd have thought fulham and stoke, spam would go to anfield and get a point? us going to the bridge doing the same, chelsea losing 2 home games arsenal losing so many matches so far this season its madness to be honest.

Or us beating liverpool these teams aren't invincible we're at home and should go in with the attitude of we can beat these thats what makes villa refreshing to watch as they believe they can beat them all just like they did to arsenal.

[gomessi]

No not in that sense i mean who'd have thought fulham and stoke, spam would go to anfield and get a point? us going to the bridge doing the same, chelsea losing 2 home games arsenal losing so many matches so far this season its madness to be honest.

Or us beating liverpool these teams aren't invincible we're at home and should go in with the attitude of we can beat these thats what makes villa refreshing to watch as they believe they can beat them all just like they did to arsenal.

sadly natural order at the end gets restored but I know what you mean.
I can tell you what the top 5 will be tight now.

It is good to see hull, stoke and fulham doing well but I am dont think they can keep it up for a season.

And I always go into a game thinking we can win if we play to our best. Being a spurs fan so long you always have that feeling though somewgere someone will **** things up.

this season could be good though because if stoke and hull stay up it means there is a very good chance wet spam and the barcodes will get relegated. the only sides who could be worse then those 2 are blackburn and bolton. wigan and fulham should be ok.

[olly27]

If I were to bet on who will go down right now, it would be West Brom, Blackburn and Stoke/Sunderland.

Blackburn will lose Santa Cruz and they will be royally ****ed. Sunderland are 4 points behind Stoke and I would probably go for Stoke as we are starting the busy period, were injuries and suspensions really come to the fore.

The xmas period normally sorts out the men from the boys. Looking at the table in early January is a good time to review things.

Sunderland have enough players to get away from it but they will probably flirt with the drop zone all season. When a new manager is appointed they will most likely have the honey moon period to shoot them up the table a bit.

[irishspur]

Blackburn maybe but bolton wont they have too much for the other teams down there the likes of jaskalainan, cahill, nolan, taylor and elmander will see them comfortably mid-table.

[TURKISH]

sadly natural order at the end gets restored but I know what you mean.
I can tell you what the top 5 will be tight now.

It is good to see hull, stoke and fulham doing well but I am dont think they can keep it up for a season.

And I always go into a game thinking we can win if we play to our best. Being a spurs fan so long you always have that feeling though somewgere someone will **** things up.

this season could be good though because if stoke and hull stay up it means there is a very good chance wet spam and the barcodes will get relegated. the only sides who could be worse then those 2 are blackburn and bolton. wigan and fulham should be ok.

Bolton will stay up, no problem.

[berbzy 'G']

Bite my balls and call me skippy!!!

I can't believe we are on the 6th page already, The game doesnt start untill Saturday :cursing:

[olly27]

Bite my balls and call me skippy!!!

I can't believe we are on the 6th page already, The game doesnt start untill Saturday :cursing:

Berbz you always make me laugh mate but you aint getting your balls bit...:scared:

[gomessi]

Bite my balls and call me skippy!!!

I can't believe we are on the 6th page already, The game doesnt start untill Saturday :cursing:

berbz look at the wet spam thread.

over 400 posts with it somehow getting to the stage where I was explaining

how damage to mitochondrial dna can lead to tissue damage. (choda did make me have to respond)

[apr82]

spurs win if there s a decent ref,howard webb maybe?

[Mattyboii]

I never go for a loss
never ever no matter who it is
even if we played shit before hand
if we can draw against chelscum when we were at a low
if we can draw against the arse when we were starting to improve
Both with a clumsy gomes
Now We Are On The Up, We Have Redknapp
We Have a Sliightly better Gomes
Modric is playing good
i hope on a good JJ bentley and lennon performance
lennon i can count on but jj has been bad and to my dismay so has bentley
whoever is upfront im sure can score one or so
Im going for a win Lads
Or at least a draw with alot of goals
could be chance to preview CC final maybe????

[berbzy 'G']

I never go for a loss
never ever no matter who it is
even if we played shit before hand
if we can draw against chelscum when we were at a low
if we can draw against the arse when we were starting to improve
Both with a clumsy gomes
Now We Are On The Up, We Have Redknapp
We Have a Sliightly better Gomes
Modric is playing good
i hope on a good JJ bentley and lennon performance
lennon i can count on but jj has been bad and to my dismay so has bentley
whoever is upfront im sure can score one or so
Im going for a win Lads
Or at least a draw with alot of goals
could be chance to preview CC final maybe????

Lets hope BerbaC*nt gets the f*ck booed out of him for ditching us in the shit after the footballer we transformed him too

[Mattyboii]

Lets hope BerbaC*nt gets the f*ck booed out of him for ditching us in the shit after the footballer we transformed him too

ooh no doubt he will
I was gonna say
Lets Hope He gets injured the cheeky ****:cursing:
**** him up Woody!
while ure at it do ronaldo in coz he walks of pitches like a Poosy!:cursing:

[mjbmedia]

dont call Berbatov a moody Bulgarian **** tho as you may get nicked from obscure photographic evidence

[berbzy 'G']

dont call Berbatov a moody Bulgarian **** tho as you may get nicked from obscure photographic evidence

PMSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MarlowSpurs]

dont call Berbatov a moody Bulgarian **** tho as you may get nicked from obscure photographic evidence

not if you wear a mask

[Rojoknapp]

I want to not even see Berbac*nt because he plays so shit, and then I want him to injure himself whilst walking off being replaced by Tevez. A really stupid injury like he trips on a divot or something and is out for a year :thumbup:

[berbzy 'G']

I want to not even see Berbac*nt because he plays so shit, and then I want him to injure himself whilst walking off being replaced by Tevez. A really stupid injury like he trips on a divot or something and is out for a year :thumbup:

I want BerbaC*nt to get bum raped by a drunken Ferguson on a Saturday night ahhhh I would cry in laughter :crying: :001_rolleyes:

[gomessi]

I want to not even see Berbac*nt because he plays so shit, and then I want him to injure himself whilst walking off being replaced by Tevez. A really stupid injury like he trips on a divot or something and is out for a year :thumbup:

wont be possible on our pitch mate its the best in the country maybe world.

I hope woody just slide tackles whilst trying to put the ball out for a throw. Woodys momentum makes him clatter berbasulk who drops over the advertising boards and into the fan.

Now I just need to get a good position so I can take aim and punch his face breaking his nose before someone kicks him in the ribs and he breaks those and when he tries to stand up he realises woody has ****ed his ankle and he is out for the rest of the season.

[olly27]

Berbatov is now a doubt for the game.

[GQCoolest]

Berbatov is now a doubt for the game.

Back when Berbastrop signed for Man U, I told my friend that I doubted if Berba would actually play against us, for fear of what Woody might do to him. Even with Rooney suspended the puss is still gonna back out.

[olly27]

More problems for Fergie boys.....:001_smile:
http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/9/sport-news/17522/headache-for-fergie

[TURKISH]

More problems for Fergie boys.....:001_smile:
http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/9/sport-news/17522/headache-for-fergie

Don't matter knowing our luck they will beat us with who ever they put out!:glare:

[olly27]

Don't matter knowing our luck they will beat us with who ever they put out!:glare:

The more big players that miss out the better!

[Rojoknapp]

Berbatov is now a doubt for the game.

hahahahahahahahahaha. amazing, what a coincidence that he's a doubt for WHL, just as Campbell has been for the past few years. I wonder if he will play the following game? Something tells me he will.

[choda]

I hope he plays because he's a weak character and he will crumble under the booing and abuse he will be getting, and oh will he get abuse or at least I hope so. He deserves it and I hope he gets a few very hefty 'fair' tackles as well. Man's a c*nt and I actually say that even without bias, just hate people with his attitude.

I feel good about this game, I will be backing us not to lose in some form or other. You may even get good odds with a 2 goal head start on the asian handicap.

[Rojoknapp]

I hope he plays because he's a weak character and he will crumble under the booing and abuse he will be getting, and oh will he get abuse or at least I hope so. He deserves it and I hope he gets a few very hefty 'fair' tackles as well. Man's a c*nt and I actually say that even without bias, just hate people with his attitude.

I feel good about this game, I will be backing us not to lose in some form or other. You may even get good odds with a 2 goal head start on the asian handicap.

Berbac*nt doesn't give a f*ck if we boo and abuse him (I will be joining in anyway). He won't even notice - the man is ice, I can hardly think of any player less likely to crumble under the pressure of abuse from fans of his former team.

[SurreySpur]

Berbac*nt doesn't give a f*ck if we boo and abuse him (I will be joining in anyway). He won't even notice - the man is ice, I can hardly think of any player less likely to crumble under the pressure of abuse from fans of his former team.

Couldnt agree more, If Berbatov plays he will undoubtably rip us apart and will almost certainly score. Booing him will make us feel slightly better but it wont make the slightest bit of difference to him.

[gazzaG8]

I really fancy us getting something from this game, 2-1 Spurs.

[choda]

Berbac*nt doesn't give a f*ck if we boo and abuse him (I will be joining in anyway). He won't even notice - the man is ice, I can hardly think of any player less likely to crumble under the pressure of abuse from fans of his former team.

He has proven time and again that he is hyper sensitive. He takes speculation to heart not to mind direct abuse. He is even close to walking on the national side for being criticised in the media and on phone ins for recent performances. Also couldn't continue to give his all for the club paying his wages when he had his eye on a move. Hmm, yea rock solid character him, never likely to crumble and not show up.

[Rojoknapp]

He has proven time and again that he is hyper sensitive. He takes speculation to heart not to mind direct abuse. He is even close to walking on the national side for being criticised in the media and on phone ins for recent performances. Also couldn't continue to give his all for the club paying his wages when he had his eye on a move. Hmm, yea rock solid character him, never likely to crumble and not show up.

Yeah, but who the f*ck are we to him? We're just the bunch of morons who sang his name time and again while he f*cked about with our players and our club. Our opinions and feelings meant jack shit to him when we were singing his praises, supporting him every week, what the f*ck will our criticism mean to him? Berbatov doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself, we can call him every name under the sun and he wouldn't bat an eyelid while he's on that pitch.

[choda]

Yeah, but who the f*ck are we to him? We're just the bunch of morons who sang his name time and again while he f*cked about with our players and our club. Our opinions and feelings meant jack shit to him when we were singing his praises, supporting him every week, what the f*ck will our criticism mean to him? Berbatov doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself, we can call him every name under the sun and he wouldn't bat an eyelid while he's on that pitch.

If he has a blinder then I'll be REALLY surprised. He's soft man, he'll be nearly crying, doesn't matter who we are to him he just hates any criticism not to mind abuse, can't take it.

[gomessi]

Berbatov is now a doubt for the game.

How doubtful. He is in my fantasy team.

[olly27]

How doubtful. He is in my fantasy team.

He had a knock to his achilles in the Sunderland game, they are waiting for the swelling to subside. If I was betting one way - it would be him playing.

[olly27]

Re Berbatov

The funny thing is I wouldn't be surprised either way, if he has a blinder or crumbles a bit.

[Spur]

My bet is that if he plays he'll be the best player on the pitch.

[berbzy 'G']

Rooney and Evra suspended. Carrick and Ronaldo recieving treatment. Berbatov and Ferdinand have back problems.

This looks very good.

[olly27]

Rooney and Evra suspended. Carrick and Ronaldo recieving treatment. Berbatov and Ferdinand have back problems.

This looks very good.

Hopefully a few of them wont make it...Berbatov is an achilles problem, Rio back spasms.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Hopefully a few of them wont make it...Berbatov is an achilles problem, Rio back spasms.

I think you've misread a report, I'm sure it would have merely said Ferdinand is a spaz :001_smile:

[olly27]

I think you've misread a report, I'm sure it would have merely said Ferdinand is a spaz :001_smile:

My bad...I stand corrected....:001_smile:

[singapore spur]

if utd play anything like they can then we have to play better than we have all season to win . yet again i think it will depend on the oppositions performance as to wether we get anything out of the game and sadly cant see it .we struggle to control agame unless the other team are playing really shite and even then we dont look comfortable .

as for berby , if rooney had been fit then i dont think we would have seen him , i can imagine the booing getting to him if he doesnt start off well ,

and as for the team we need a high tempo performance from the off so im guessing zokora and jenas in midfield , and i would play with bale and lennon on the flanks .

[Shelfside]

It does seem like a good time to be playing them,so I hope we can take advantage of this.A draw would be no disgrace,but a win would set us up nicely for the xmas fixtures.What the hell,I'll go for a 3-1 win to Spurs.

[JuicE]

I'm starting to consider we may just get a result!

[SCIFIN17YID]

I will go for 2 - 1 to us, otherwise a draw, btw what formation will we play ?
I hope its not that one man up front rubbish.

[peterc]

One change from last line up, Dawson instead of King.

Heurelho Gomes
Vedran Corluka
Benoit Assou-Ekotto
Michael Dawson
Jonathan Woodgate
Aaron Lennon
Jermaine Jenas
Didier Zokora
Luka Modric
Roman Pavlyuchenko
David Bentley


Substitutes

Cesar Sanchez , Gareth Bale , Darren Bent , Kevin-Prince Boateng , Chris Gunter , Tom Huddlestone , Jamie O'Hara

[olly27]

Surprise surprsie all United players who were doutbful are fit! Dawson instead of King, I cant see us getting a result now - hope am wrong.

[Benjo]

Has enybody stream??

[peterc]

Surprise surprsie all United players who were doutbful are fit! Dawson instead of King, I cant see us getting a result now - hope am wrong.

Try and think positive mate, we will win 2-1.

[olly27]

Try and think positive mate, we will win 2-1.

Pete I use to tell you to try and think positive!...whats going on...lol....:001_smile:

[TURKISH]

I have a bad feeling about this.:sad:

[olly27]

I have a bad feeling about this.:sad:

Me to mate...as soon as I saw the teams my heart sank.

[peterc]

Pete I use to tell you to try and think positive!...whats going on...lol....:001_smile:


We all pass through such phases supporting our beloved Spurs.:001_smile:

[TURKISH]

Me to mate...as soon as I saw the teams my heart sank.

I new there best players would start, but there bench worried me.:sad:

Also berba and ronaldo are due a goal plus united won't drop anymore points.:sad:

[peterc]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Woodgate off injured, Huddlestone on.

[peterc]

Oh Pav, why where you in the way?, good try Hudds.

[TURKISH]

Me to mate...as soon as I saw the teams my heart sank.

I new there best players would start, but there bench worried me.:sad:

Also berba and ronaldo are due a goal plus united won't drop anymore points.:sad:

[TURKISH]

Not bad we have had the better chances but we need to keep the ball better. I would put bent on because against united we are more or less playing counter attacking football and need pace.

Modric needs to get in the game more and start picking passes out. Other than that i very happy.

[singapore spur]

you can see a goal coming for them though , giving them too much time to tuen on the edge of our box

[singapore spur]

phew , looked a goal to me

[peterc]

First foul of Hudd gets a yellow, they get away with murder.

[Shelfside]

Utd are stepping up a gear.I'll gladly take a draw from this.

[peterc]

Well Choda, youR JOH on now, we shall see what he can do.

[Baleinho]

Ill take that lads; probably the best defensively in ****ing ages. We were strong and shut berbashits up all night. Zokora played out his skin imo.

WP- we could of snatched a win tbh. :)

Anyone else satisfied?

[Spur]

Shit performance.

[peterc]

JOH's passing is just as bad and also lost possession, Zokora, Ekotto and Gomes were outstanding. Dawson did play well too.

[singapore spur]

great point , good attitude and work rate even thoough we were under the cosh .
hard to pick a mom from our defence , but between gomes and zokura for me

[peterc]

Shit performance.

You must be joking Spur.

[singapore spur]

bae best performance so far too

[LifeTimeYido]

Cracking point.
Amazing workrate shown, good grit and determination.

Zok, Gomez, Modric, Lennon, Dawson and Corluka were excellent.
Even BAE put in a good show and Bentley's crossong/free kicks were better.
JJ is still po.

[GQCoolest]

Dawson MOTM for me. Absolutely immense, nothing past him. Zokora and Ekotto were also excellent, and Modric is wonderrful going forward.

I wish we'd played Lennon on the right though, I feel like he could have absolutely destroyed O'Shea.

[olly27]

We did very well defensively pitty we couldn't of done better going forward or we could of won. If we had believed we could of won we would of. Utd were poor though but not taking anything away from us.

Zokora, Dawson and Gomes were fantastic.

Great for the confidence, roll on Newcastle.

Bentley again is still getting on my whick, but BAE had a great game, his best yet in a Spurs shirt.

[LifeTimeYido]

I am beginning to revise my opinion of Zokora.....if he keeps playing like that, ill want him to stay.

Harry is a fcuking magician btw.

[Shelfside]

Spurs worked hard for that point,but it is incredible that a home team could be under so much pressure for practically the entire second half.
Credit where credit is due,Zokora did have a great game.And the more Gomes plays like that,there will be no need for a replacement keeper in January.
But no-one can bury their heads in the sand about our midfield failings any longer.JoH does try,but he isn't good enough.The Hudd is 60% useless.Bentley is 70% useless.JJ is 100% useless.The only attacking threat from us came from Lennon even though Rafael had him under control for most of the game.Pav and Bent were feeding on scraps.
Although we can take heart from not having lost to any of the sky 4 so far this season,it can't take away the fact that at best we are a mid-table side and unless critical positions are strengthened,then we will always remain one.

[Spur]

JOH's passing is just as bad and also lost possession, Zokora, Ekotto and Gomes were outstanding. Dawson did play well too.
Utterly ridiculous to single out O'Hara for bad passing. Utterly ridiculous.
You must be joking Spur.
No, I'm not. Despite creating a couple of gilt-edged chances we were shocking going forward. Absolutely shocking.

Cracking defensive display though. Some quality performances in there - step forward Gomes, Dawson, Zokora, Charlie and Benny, but the rest?! The rest played like they came from a circus. Except for Lennon. No-one else deserves to be named.

[TURKISH]

Back 5 were superb especially zokora and dawson. Gomes brilliant once again.

Jenas was disapointing for me in cm but i think he is still suffering from his injury. Lennon was good in burst, bentley didn't impress me today against oshea i felt hudd had a good game.

Team worked hard but im worried about pav and bent because im not to impress with there general play.

Good result im speechless, i can't believe it.

[olly27]

Back 5 were superb especially zokora and dawson. Gomes brilliant once again.

Jenas was disapointing for me in cm but i think he is still suffering from his injury. Lennon was good in burst, bentley didn't impress me today against oshea i felt hudd had a good game.

Team worked hard but im worried about pav and bent because im not to impress with there general play.

Good result im speechless, i can't believe it.

I agree entirely mate.

[wayne wonder]

Back 5 were superb especially zokora and dawson. Gomes brilliant once again.

Jenas was disapointing for me in cm but i think he is still suffering from his injury. Lennon was good in burst, bentley didn't impress me today against oshea i felt hudd had a good game.

Team worked hard but im worried about pav and bent because im not to impress with there general play.

Good result im speechless, i can't believe it.

No jenas is just crap mate injured or not!!

[peterc]

[QUOTE=Spur;117629]Utterly ridiculous to single out O'Hara for bad passing. Utterly ridiculous.

You do talk nonsense sometiimes, the reason I said that is because JOH is not the answer to our CM crisis, as Choda seemed to think.

No, I'm not. Despite creating a couple of gilt-edged chances we were shocking going forward. Absolutely shocking.

Bearing in mind ,we lost Woodgate and played with Zokora Right back, who did exceptionally well. We are talking about the premiership and Champions league champions here and not West Bromwich Albion, maybe your expectations might be way over the top.

Cracking defensive display though. Some quality performances in there - step forward Gomes, Dawson, Zokora, Charlie and Benny, but the rest?! The rest played like they came from a circus. Except for Lennon. No-one else deserves to be named.

Defence was solid, also taking into consideration that we had kind of maKe up defence. Others did not come across as playing that wel, however, they had a few who did not light up WHL, same could have said about Berbac*nt.

[Spur]

You do talk nonsense sometiimes, the reason I said that is because JOH is not the answer to our CM crisis, as Choda seemed to think.
Ok, but you think that Jenas is the answer, and he clearly isn't either. Singling out one player after the game for playing badly would suggest you're picking on him. And you know, what with Jenas having another shocker, and with Huddlestone struggling to impose himself again, having a go at O'Hara would prove pointless.
Bearing in mind ,we lost Woodgate and played with Zokora Right back, who did exceptionally well. We are talking about the premiership and Champions league champions here and not West Bromwich Albion, maybe your expectations might be way over the top.
Yes, Woodgate and Dawson and a right back of Zokora greatly affect the performances of Bentley, Pavly, Bent, Modric, etc, etc, and our general attacking play don't they? Again, pointless and wrong.

Our passing was terrible, up the field play was terrible bar for a couple of chances. We never had a grip on the game at all. Miniscule attacking impetus. A makeshift defence DOES NOT effect this.
Defence was solid, also taking into consideration that we had kind of maKe up defence. Others did not come across as palying that wel, however, they had a few who did not light up WHL, same could have said about Berbac*nt.
Did I not just say that?

:glare: :glare: :glare: :glare:

[peterc]

[QUOTE=Spur;117640]Ok, but you think that Jenas is the answer, and he clearly isn't either. Singling out one player after the game for playing badly would suggest you're picking on him. And you know, what with Jenas having another shocker, and with Huddlestone struggling to ipose himself again, having a go at O'Hara would prove pointless.

Jenas was poor tonight and so was JOH, simple, we all know that we need to recruit some midfield players, Wow, most of you have singled out JJ for God knows how many times, hypocrisy comes to mind. I am only confirming that quite a fww of us thought that JOH is not and never will be the answer, as Choda kept insinuating.


Our passing was terrible, up the field play was terrible bar for a couple of chances. We never had a grip on the game at all. Miniscule attacking impetus. A makeshift defence DOES NOT effect this.

Did I not just say that?

So taking out Zokora from Midfied to right back does not affect, what a load of tosh.

[peterc]

No jenas is just crap mate injured or not!!

He didn't have one of his best games, however, we seem to forget performances like against the scum this season.

[mjbmedia]

I was dissapointed that Lennon didnt get onto the right wing to go V O Shea as hed have skinned him , he was kind of wasted on the left against Rafael who was matching him for pace

[Spur]

Jenas was poor tonight and so was JOH, simple, we all know that we need to recruit some midfield players, Wow, most of you have singled out JJ for God knows how many times, hypocrisy comes to mind. I am only confirming that quite a fww of us thought that JOH is not and never will be the answer, as Choda kept insinuating.
No, tonight they were all poor. Doesn't make them all bad players. And we never singled out Jenas for a bad performance. We singled out Jenas for more than numerous badperformances.
So taking out Zokora from Midfied to right back does not affect, what a load of tosh.
So our attacking play revolves around Zokora? Now THAT is tosh :lol:

I am sorry, but I don't view the move of Didier Zokora - a man who could not attack a paper bag if his life depended on it - as an integral part of our attacking moves.

How does Zokora moving ten yards back and ten yards right impact the performances of Huddlestone, Jenas, O'Hara, Bentley, Bent, Modric and Pavlyuchenko?

[Spur]

I was dissapointed that Lennon didnt get onto the right wing to go V O Shea as hed have skinned him , he was kind of wasted on the left against Rafael who was matching him for pace

Rafael is a cracking little player who loves to get forward. With Lennon on top of him, it's been pointed out elsewhere, he was pinned back for much of the game.

One example of this is with a corner they had and Lennon was up on the half way line. Rafael was up for corners against Arsenal the other day (when he scored with his left) but today he was marking on the halfway line. This is not a great example, as he could of been back merely because they had other plans inside the box, but it's an example nonetheless!

There was one example when he did go forward and Lennon in behind, can't remember what came of it though.

[peterc]

No, tonight they were all poor. Doesn't make them all bad players. And we never singled out Jenas for a bad performance. We singled out Jenas for more than numerous bad performances.[/QUOTE

Some of you also gave him stick when his performance was average, but still got blamed for the whole teams performsance, as I said hypocrisy at its best.

[QUOTE]So our attacking play revolves around Zokora? Now THAT is tosh :lol:

When was the last game you saw Spurs play?, Zokora does tend to go forward and has also helped in counter attacks on a few occasions, shame about his final touch, but there again we know we need a CM with a deadly final touch. He was moved to right back and he could not risk going forward as much.

I am sorry, but I don't view the move of Didier Zokora - a man who could not attack a paper bag if his life depended on it - as an integral part of our attacking moves.

How does Zokora moving ten yards back and ten yards right impact the performances of Huddlestone, Jenas, O'Hara, Bentley, Bent, Modric and Pavlyuchenko?

Best to stick to your goalkeeping role mate, by the looks of your way of reasoning, you won't make it to be a midfielder.:tongue_smilie:

[Spur]

Best to stick to your goalkeeping role mate, by the looks of your way of reasoning you won't make it to be a midfielder.:tongue_smilie:

No logic in any of your posts, nor have you answered questions I've put to you.

I'm happy to leave it at that.

[peterc]

No logic in any of your posts, nor have you answered questions I've put to you.

I'm happy to leave it at that.

Whatever Spur, when Zokora was moved from midfield to right back defender, that had no affect on the midfield..:001_rolleyes: :001_rolleyes:

[Spur]

Whatever Spur, when Zokora was moved from midfield to right back defender, that had no affect on the midfield..:001_rolleyes: :001_rolleyes:

I didn't say midfield I said attacking play.

Congrats. Nice one. Cheers.

[peterc]

I didn't say midfield I said attacking play.

Congrats. Nice one. Cheers.

What are you on, so Zokora was put in right back position after eleven minutes, so what did you expect him to do, play two positions or what?:001_rolleyes:

[Spur]

What are you on, so Zokora was put in right back position after eleven minutes, so what did you expect him to do, play two positions or what?:001_rolleyes:

WTF you talking about?

You've gone ahead and lost yourself again ain't ya?

[berbzy 'G']

I been out today, I was checking the scores on computer. It sounds like we got absolutely raped by Man Utd :blushing:

[peterc]

WTF you talking about?

You've gone ahead and lost yourself again ain't ya?


Once Zokora moved from midfield to right back, that affected our mdfield and attacking options, saying that, both Pav and Bent did not do much
on their own. They don't seem to be capable of holding onto dead balls and build up an attack.

[apr82]

levy get both hands in your pockets

[peterc]

I been out today, I was checking the scores on computer. It sounds like we got absolutely raped by Man Utd :blushing:

What was the final score mate?.:001_smile:

[gomessi]

gomes was excellent yet again

[mjbmedia]

Rafael is a cracking little player who loves to get forward. With Lennon on top of him, it's been pointed out elsewhere, he was pinned back for much of the game.

One example of this is with a corner they had and Lennon was up on the half way line. Rafael was up for corners against Arsenal the other day (when he scored with his left) but today he was marking on the halfway line. This is not a great example, as he could of been back merely because they had other plans inside the box, but it's an example nonetheless!

There was one example when he did go forward and Lennon in behind, can't remember what came of it though.
true and good points made , I just think we should play to our strengths not to negate theirs , now if we were one up then yeh put Lennon on the left to hold Rafael but im not happy at a 0-0 home draw regardless of who its against and I just feel that swapping him over for say minimum 15 minutes may have reaped rewards whilst detailing Bentley to track back religiously with Rafael as Bentley was doing nothing with the ball on the right in free play.

[Spur]

true and good points made , I just think we should play to our strengths not to negate theirs , now if we were one up then yeh put Lennon on the left to hold Rafael but im not happy at a 0-0 home draw regardless of who its against and I just feel that swapping him over for say minimum 15 minutes may have reaped rewards whilst detailing Bentley to track back religiously with Rafael as Bentley was doing nothing with the ball on the right in free play.

I do agree by the way. At least 15 really.

[mjbmedia]

I do agree by the way. At least 15 really.
yeh, to be honest I hadnt thought about it from the point of view of holding Rafael, it certainly helps explain the decision to me :001_smile:

[choda]

true and good points made , I just think we should play to our strengths not to negate theirs , now if we were one up then yeh put Lennon on the left to hold Rafael but im not happy at a 0-0 home draw regardless of who its against and I just feel that swapping him over for say minimum 15 minutes may have reaped rewards whilst detailing Bentley to track back religiously with Rafael as Bentley was doing nothing with the ball on the right in free play.

That's right and as badly as Bentley is playing he would still scare defenders a bit as if you give him too much space he might curl in a wonder ball for a goal.

Yea, Lennon would have torn O'Shea apart, he's a leggy centre back.

[Indianspur]

hudd and jenas may work better for both players...

zokora is doing well at RB and should stick to that position for thursday as injuries etc.

bale also needs a run instead of bentley! we have a replacement but dont use it.

modric is good but needs help from midfield as does pav.
gomes, defence and zokoro excellent today.

[choda]

Seems Peter is developing an obsession about me. What is it with people stalking me?

Anyway, to clarify what I said was that JoH deserves a run in the side ahead of Jenas, because he MIGHT just give us a lot more.

Now, his passing was misfiring when he came on but that wasn't really different to many of the others and he probably wasn't on the pace of the game coming off the bench. Seemed he didn't get enough touches to settle before being thrust into high paced high octane plays. Or maybe he wasn't playing well, I don't know.

BUT, and this is a huge 'but', when he came on we were getting overun in midfield. As I was pointing out to people watching the game with me, United were taking over and a goal was coming. When he came on we got a foothold again, we were more solid and got back in the game, pushed out and had more chances after that.

We also stemmed there attacks much better. He WAS better. Now, give him a run and he could grow into the role and start performing like he did on his debut. Then we would have a far better central midfield.

I'm not saying he is the answer, I'd just like to give him a go. As far as I am concerned his attitude and trying to do the right things makes you better before you even begin.

Two key moments for me: One, he tracked a runner deep into dangerous territory and knicked the ball away beautifully, and a header he was never going to lose the way he went at it. Small things, but actually huge. It gees people up seeing a guy 100% committed and doing his job with real purpose and honesty. He was also putting in some tackles and hunting with intent to bite in to tackles.

He's not Davids but these things make a big difference in football. I don't care if people agree with me or not, most disagreed when I said Davids was crucial. I'm just saying he should get a run in the current set up and see how he gets on, it won't be worse than Jenas, that's for sure.

We all want to buy in January, just to clarify another point.

[choda]

Oh and I agree Dawson and Zokora were brilliant. Harry is magic!

Gomes is starting to show how good he really is, brilliant. He's over the injury and adapting well to the amount of crosses that come in. Well done to Tony Parks too and keep it up.

Gomes is worth so many points in a season if we get him up to his best. He's different league altogether to Robbo.

We are starting to become solid at the back! Clean sheets in almost half the games under Harry! This is HUGE, that gives you a real chance of building a proper proper side.

[mjbmedia]

dont think Thursdays game is on TV :sad:

[jrio]

dont think Thursdays game is on TV :sad:

No, it's not.

A little perspective is needed. We had to defend like demons to protect a nil/nil draw at home against a United side that has been misfiring away all season. It's creditable(especially considering the absence of King and loss of Woody), but not a revelation. Anyone wondering why it doesn't feel like a great point gained should look at the figures: 60% possession to United, 14-4 corners to them. We were hanging on like a desperate away side, and only to get a point.

Results are everything, and that's 17 points from 9 games, 3 of those against top 4 sides, and meaning we've taken 6 points from 12 in games against them, showing how Harry can grind out a result against superior sides consistently. I wonder what he could do with a side that he assembles himself?

[berbzy 'G']

I can't believe Pavlyuchenko got in the way of Huddlestones power shot, It was going straight for goal :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

[gomessi]

yeh, to be honest I hadnt thought about it from the point of view of holding Rafael, it certainly helps explain the decision to me :001_smile:

that is why I thought it was a good decision. lennon has very good defensive abilities. sometimes you need to do ajob for the team and I thought lennon was excellent again

[gomessi]

I can't believe Pavlyuchenko got in the way of Huddlestones power shot, It was going straight for goal :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

berbz did you expect him to disapear. that shot was hit like a rocket he couldnt get out of the way.

It seems you dont really like him/ rate him.

[choda]

No, it's not.

A little perspective is needed. We had to defend like demons to protect a nil/nil draw at home against a United side that has been misfiring away all season. It's creditable(especially considering the absence of King and loss of Woody), but not a revelation. Anyone wondering why it doesn't feel like a great point gained should look at the figures: 60% possession to United, 14-4 corners to them. We were hanging on like a desperate away side, and only to get a point.

Results are everything, and that's 17 points from 9 games, 3 of those against top 4 sides, and meaning we've taken 6 points from 12 in games against them, showing how Harry can grind out a result against superior sides consistently. I wonder what he could do with a side that he assembles himself?

You have to give up possession to the better sides simply because they will always control the centre versus Hudd, Jenas and Zokora (though he is becoming different and much better maybe). It's proven, it even happens against many lesser teams, hence the inconsistency. The last time we were consistent was the days of Carrick and Davids together. We often ruled midfield in those times and I don't ever remember losing the midfield battle with Davids in the team.

As you say, this makes what Harry is doing all the more commendable. The way we defend and work as a team now is so much better.

And he is getting the best of most of the players individually.

The points total since he's arrived and the clean sheet ratio is outstanding and it does make you wonder when he spends millions like his predecessors building his side and balancing it what he could do and how far he could go.

[Indianspur]

Looking at united it was their strongest side and possibly our weakest defence so all in all would have taken a point against united.. once we sign a striker and left winger such as arshavin then we have a better chance of winning games like this! bentley just is struggling against the better teams as our midfield is not strong enough. look at villas which possesses a good backbone..were not far off i dont think though!

i love spurs"!

[gomessi]

Redknapp said: “I went out to Holland recently and met the goalkeeping coach at PSV Eindhoven. He told me, ‘Don’t worry about your goalkeeper, he’s world class’.

At the time, I wondered if he’d been drinking, but I brought in Tony Parks to work with him and Tony has restored his confidence. If he keeps that up, we haven’t got a problem in goal.”

[mjbmedia]

Redknapp said: “I went out to Holland recently and met the goalkeeping coach at PSV Eindhoven. He told me, ‘Don’t worry about your goalkeeper, he’s world class’.

At the time, I wondered if he’d been drinking, but I brought in Tony Parks to work with him and Tony has restored his confidence. If he keeps that up, we haven’t got a problem in goal.”
me and choda been saying that all along , hes class just had to get use to the defenders/ communications /way games played over here.

Also big point, the defenders recently have been taking the responsibility rather than passing it back to him and dropping him in it, theyve been clearing the ball properly even if out for a throw/corner, much much better .

[TURKISH]

me and choda been saying that all along , hes class just had to get use to the defenders/ communications /way games played over here.

Also big point, the defenders recently have been taking the responsibility rather than passing it back to him and dropping him in it, theyve been clearing the ball properly even if out for a throw/corner, much much better .

And me!:glare: :001_smile: I rate him very highly and im glad he has shut alot of people up. Its good also because he is a smashing lad and you don't like seeing people fail.

[Rojoknapp]

I don't know how many on here were at the game, but those who were would have seen Michael Mcintyre's hilarious half time interview :lol:

I was hoping it would be on youtube or spurs online but it's not - does anyone know where to find a clip of it?

[gomessi]

And me!:glare: :001_smile: I rate him very highly and im glad he has shut alot of people up. Its good also because he is a smashing lad and you don't like seeing people fail.

me as well!

he totally desserved the applause he got at the end from us. HE has gone through a lot and now he is starting to show why we bought him.

The media love to put players down and I am delighted to see he is showing his true class.

GDS will do the same. Its not easy coming to a foreign league (especailly the prem) and having to cope with injuries.