Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[mjbmedia]

o another dull boring last minute victory i spose :001_rolleyes:

[LifeTimeYido]

LFC will rip us a new one i think, if it is played like it was a week or so ago......Torres will be back :scared: as well so could be 0-2 or 0-3.

Sorry to say lads. :sad: :sad:

[MiloMinderbinder]

Be interesting to see waht team Benitez puts out. I would hazard a guess that it wont be the strongrest possible but will still be a stern test, especially in light of their unlikely loss last time around.

[Ioang]

That raises an interesting question: Should we put out a strong-as-possible team as well, with the games coming thick and fast and a real possibility of rising up the table this season?

[olly27]

I have read that Gerrard, Keane, Agger and Reina will probably not start. Pool arnt the same without Gerrard so I think we will win again...:001_smile:

[GQCoolest]

Willing to bet that Pav will get the start, as we don't need to wear out Bent and Pav is an excellent option for games such as these (plus we were much more effective running a 4-4-2 against Pool, maybe give Campbell a run out as well). I'd give Luka a rest, leave him on the subs bench. I'd like to see something like:

----------Gomes
Hutton Dawson Woody Bale
Bentley Jenas Corluka Lennon
-----Pav---------Campbell-----

[LifeTimeYido]

I have read that Gerrard, Keane, Agger and Reina will probably not start. Pool arnt the same without Gerrard so I think we will win again...:001_smile:

If thats the case, then i do fancy our chances.

[olly27]

If thats the case, then i do fancy our chances.

Yeah read it from here:

http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/matchprere.asp?a=131388

[highlander]

i think we will rest a few bot pool will definately rest as well. ive gone for a spurs win because i think the confidence is high and the squaddies will want to show 'Arry what the can do. for the starting XI id go for:

-----------Gomes----------
Gunter--Woody--Daws--Bale
Lennon--Ghaly--Zokora--JOH
-----------GDS-------------
-----------Pav-------------

Bench: Sanchez, Corluka, Gilberto, Jenas, Taraabt, Campbell, Bent

[olly27]

i think we will rest a few bot pool will definately rest as well. ive gone for a spurs win because i think the confidence is high and the squaddies will want to show 'Arry what the can do. for the starting XI id go for:

-----------Gomes----------
Gunter--Woody--Daws--Bale
Lennon--Ghaly--Zokora--JOH
-----------GDS-------------
-----------Pav-------------

Bench: Sanchez, Corluka, Gilberto, Jenas, Taraabt, Campbell, Bent

GDS is out for a good while apparently.

[highlander]

GDS is out for a good while apparently.

didnt know that, id put frazer campbell on go 4-4-2 and chuck Bostock on the bench

[mjbmedia]

personally i dont think we'll rest anyone unless they really need it (King )

Momentum and confidence is huge, and the run we're on at the mo, especially after the start we had , doesnt want to be given up too easily when lets be honest, our squad is pretty fit and most of them can take three games in 7 days and still play at their best.

Id hope to put out a full 11 with some back ups on the bench ie Bostock.

Lets have a bet on what time Keane gets subbed this game hehehehe

[olly27]

personally i dont think we'll rest anyone unless they really need it (King )

Momentum and confidence is huge, and the run we're on at the mo, especially after the start we had , doesnt want to be given up too easily when lets be honest, our squad is pretty fit and most of them can take three games in 7 days and still play at their best.

Id hope to put out a full 11 with some back ups on the bench ie Bostock.

Lets have a bet on what time Keane gets subbed this game hehehehe

Dont think he will start.

[inthewoods]

Save the wins for the league. Im going for a 2-0 defeat here. I wont be too bothered though, I know we're holders and all but id take 3 points against fulham over a win on wednesday anytime. I will still be nice if we turn over the scouse bastards again though!

[berbzy 'G']

sorry. but we are not gonna win this one.

[peterc]

With confidence sky high and from what I gather Rafa intending to play a much weaker team, I predict us winning this game 2-0. COYS.

[singapore spur]

the c.c cup shouldnt be a priority for us in my opinion , let some of the other fringe guys get a run out ,

[olly27]

Not sure why most are skeptical here. Liverpool are not going to be at full strength, if Harry selects a strong side (most first teamers bar King) I think we will win. Expect at least 4 or 5 big Pool players not to start.

[Milney yid]

Does anyone else really not care too much about the C. Cup anymore?
Of course I want Spurs to win any game they play, but I just kinda feel as though we've won the Carling Cup now, not much could match 5-1 v Ars**al and beating Chelsea in the final, so lets focus more on the FA or UEFA cup and trying to progress up the league. Maybe that's just me though...

[singapore spur]

Does anyone else really not care too much about the C. Cup anymore?
Of course I want Spurs to win any game they play, but I just kinda feel as though we've won the Carling Cup now, not much could match 5-1 v Ars**al and beating Chelsea in the final, so lets focus more on the FA or UEFA cup and trying to progress up the league. Maybe that's just me though...

agree , we havent got a strong enough squad to compete in 4 comps aggresively , tbh noone has , teams have to prioritise and the c.c should be the last of our concerns now , great though winning it was .

[inthewoods]

Does anyone else really not care too much about the C. Cup anymore?
Of course I want Spurs to win any game they play, but I just kinda feel as though we've won the Carling Cup now, not much could match 5-1 v Ars**al and beating Chelsea in the final, so lets focus more on the FA or UEFA cup and trying to progress up the league. Maybe that's just me though...

I wouldnt say I dont care about the carling cup, but given our league position we definitely have bigger things to worry about. Ive said it before but id take 3 points from fulham over a win against liverpool in the carling cup anyday. We should def try and get a good run going in the FA cup thoh.

[olly27]

I wouldnt say I dont care about the carling cup, but given our league position we definitely have bigger things to worry about. Ive said it before but id take 3 points from fulham over a win against liverpool in the carling cup anyday. We should def try and get a good run going in the FA cup thoh.

Yeah I agree but it would be lovely to win again for the old confidence.

[heartofspurs]

I wouldnt say I dont care about the carling cup, but given our league position we definitely have bigger things to worry about. Ive said it before but id take 3 points from fulham over a win against liverpool in the carling cup anyday. We should def try and get a good run going in the FA cup thoh.

Agreed, but to get a double over liverpool at this stage of the season will annoy my work mates!

[Indianspur]

id love to see this team

Cesar

hutton corluka woodgate bale

lennon hudd jamio jenas gds (frazier if hes still injured and then 442)

pavlychenko

modric,king, bentley,bent to important to risk at the moment but defo keep all on the bench..

We can beat liverpool but only with out strongest side im afraid!

[Jenas8]

agree , we havent got a strong enough squad to compete in 4 comps aggresively , tbh noone has , teams have to prioritise and the c.c should be the last of our concerns now , great though winning it was .

I think that carling cup should be taken very seriously, due to it being one of the big chances to us advancing to europe again.. i mean we have to put our best team out there, except king and hope liverpool doesnt, and then we gotta shot.. plus itz a home game, and momnetum is quite high, extending our run here would b tremendous... and the best run we had in a long time..

[gomessi]

I wouldnt say I dont care about the carling cup, but given our league position we definitely have bigger things to worry about. Ive said it before but id take 3 points from fulham over a win against liverpool in the carling cup anyday. We should def try and get a good run going in the FA cup thoh.

I am not worried about the league position. Do you honestly think this group of players playing with high confidence could finish below bolton, fulham, stoke, wigan, newcastle, west brom, sunderland, west ham etc. We will end up somewhere between 5th and 10th.

Not much glory in finishing 10th and winning nothing is there:001_rolleyes: . We should attack all the 3 cup competetions and see what we end up with.

I cant understand why some of you wouldnt want to win a trophy. Its a very sad attitude IMO after all this game is about winning trophies and this club buys players for all 4 competitions so why would you not want to win the cc.

It annoys me that some fane turn their noses up to a trophy when our history shows 15 of our 17 trophies have been cup competitions. We are not real madrid so we should look to have some glory because we wont win the league in the short term future.

Why do some fans think cup glory and league results are mutually exclusive. :001_unsure:

team against lpool

bent/pav

modric

lennon Hudd JJ Bentley

Bale Wood Corluka Hutton
gomes

I think king could be rested and maybe bent.

[olly27]

I certainly hope we win and have a good run, but I am not going to throw the toys out of the pram if Harry has more of an eye on Saturday.

[JuicE]

I think we should give the youngsters a run out and see what they can do.

Itll be an excellent opportunity to pick new talent rather than have them wither away or loan them out. Give them a cup run like the Arse do.

That way you can't really lose.

Personally i would rather be in the UEFA or FA cup final.

[Rojoknapp]

I've gone for a win because I think we can take an under strength pool team. I just pray that we don't lose and see confidence start to slip again. While I agree with JS, the glory of the cup and all, I think we need to secure our league position first before we start going all out at cups. The uefa and F.A i would love to see us attack, partly because the F.A starts after christmas (when we should be looking a lot safer) and the uefa really only gets going after christmas, we only need a win against that crappy team in our group who's name i can't spell and we're through, so we can cruise through that really. But at this moment while I'd happily take the win vs pool, I would prioritise the league.

[olly27]

I've gone for a win because I think we can take an under strength pool team. I just pray that we don't lose and see confidence start to slip again. While I agree with JS, the glory of the cup and all, I think we need to secure our league position first before we start going all out at cups. The uefa and F.A i would love to see us attack, partly because the F.A starts after christmas (when we should be looking a lot safer) and the uefa really only gets going after christmas, we only need a win against that crappy team in our group who's name i can't spell and we're through, so we can cruise through that really. But at this moment while I'd happily take the win vs pool, I would prioritise the league.

Yeah I agree with that entirely...

[Chewy]

I'd put this team out:

Gomes
Hutton Woodgate Corluka Bale
Lennon Jenas Huddlestone O'Hara
Pavy Campbell

subs: cesar, dawson, zokora, bentley, modric, taarabt, bent

Have a feeling Ghaly or KPB will start this one in the centre though. In fact I wouldn't be suprised if all the fringe players got a run out i.e Ghaly, KPB, Stalteri, Rocha and Taarabt

Edit: I went for liverpool win unfortunately. As I do think harry will play the fringe players and lets face it. Their fringe players are better than ours. Hope I'm wrong though and Pavy does it again in the 90th minute!

[choda]

I'd play:

Cesar
Hutton Corluka Rocha Gilbert
Lennon Ghaly Boeteng Taarabt
Campbell Pavlyechenko

With a power packed bench if things are going tits up.

But I would want to try some of these players and I would expect a good performance and possibly winning. I think we have a strong and deep squad in many ways and it should show. I'm sure Harry can get these lads ready, willing, believing in themselves and playing better like he has done with basically all of the lads so far.

This will also help some like Hutton with fitness and also have a look at the lads who were frozen out unfairly. I'd be particularly interested in Taarby, Ghaly and Boeteng to see how they are doing. I've seen enough of Rocha to know what he can do. I think he is a solid squad man.

Some might see this as prioritising but to be honest I think some of these lads deserve a chance, will be very hungry to make an impression and have a lot of ability amongst them.

The first teamers may take a breath and relax after all the stress and their efforts in getting to relative safety (league and uafa) and I can see a bad performance possibly coming unless we shake it up a bit too. I think it may be an idea to rest many as well. The games have been thick and fast and we want them pepped to beat Fulham and climb another bunch up the table.

[gomessi]

I'd play:

Cesar
Hutton Corluka Rocha Gilbert
Lennon Ghaly Boeteng Taarabt
Campbell Pavlyechenko

With a power packed bench if things are going tits up.

But I would want to try some of these players and I would expect a good performance and possibly winning. I think we have a strong and deep squad in many ways and it should show. I'm sure Harry can get these lads ready, willing, believing in themselves and playing better like he has done with basically all of the lads so far.

This will also help some like Hutton with fitness and also have a look at the lads who were frozen out unfairly. I'd be particularly interested in Taarby, Ghaly and Boeteng to see how they are doing. I've seen enough of Rocha to know what he can do. I think he is a solid squad man.

Some might see this as prioritising but to be honest I think some of these lads deserve a chance, will be very hungry to make an impression and have a lot of ability amongst them.

The first teamers may take a breath and relax after all the stress and their efforts in getting to relative safety (league and uafa) and I can see a bad performance possibly coming unless we shake it up a bit too. I think it may be an idea to rest many as well. The games have been thick and fast and we want them pepped to beat Fulham and climb another bunch up the table.

choda no point in having a great bench if we are losing. When we beat lpool from 0-1 it was the first time a prem team had beaten them after falling behind in 3 years. Lpool are a very hard team to beat when going behind.

Against arsenal in the 5-1 game we took off berba, keane and lennon after we went up 4-0. That is how resting should be done. Take a lead then rest. Not go behind then bring the players on. Berba, Keane and Lennon all played 60 minutes and were rested for the fa cup against man u. Adebayor who was rested played 30. Not much difference between playing 30 and 60 minutes IMO. When you are winning you dont feel as tired as when you are losing.

Also a winning mentality should not be underestimated. By all means rest maybe 1 or 2 but a radical change could seriously affect us.

I would be very upset to get knocked out as the holders if we put out a weakened team. I couldnt care less what team lpool put out.

We need to carry on this unbeaten run as well as capture some glory from a season that started off from the worst in our history. Winning something would at least give us fans at least something to cheer. Finishing 10th is nothing to shout about especially as a spurs supporter.

The win against chelsea was perhaps the best moment whilst supporting spurs and I hope we all have the chance to experience it again. Of course I would be even more delighted to win the fa cup but that doesnt start until after christmas. The uefa cup will be very difficult to win, but I wouldnt be suprised if we go all the way (after all boro and rangers got to the final).

[choda]

choda no point in having a great bench if we are losing. When we beat lpool from 0-1 it was the first time a prem team had beaten them after falling behind in 3 years. Lpool are a very hard team to beat when going behind.

Against arsenal in the 5-1 game we took off berba, keane and lennon after we went up 4-0. That is how resting should be done. Take a lead then rest. Not go behind then bring the players on. Berba, Keane and Lennon all played 60 minutes and were rested for the fa cup against man u. Adebayor who was rested played 30. Not much difference between playing 30 and 60 minutes IMO. When you are winning you dont feel as tired as when you are losing.

Also a winning mentality should not be underestimated. By all means rest maybe 1 or 2 but a radical change could seriously affect us.

I would be very upset to get knocked out as the holders if we put out a weakened team. I couldnt care less what team lpool put out.

We need to carry on this unbeaten run as well as capture some glory from a season that started off from the worst in our history. Winning something would at least give us fans at least something to cheer. Finishing 10th is nothing to shout about especially as a spurs supporter.

The win against chelsea was perhaps the best moment whilst supporting spurs and I hope we all have the chance to experience it again. Of course I would be even more delighted to win the fa cup but that doesnt start until after christmas. The uefa cup will be very difficult to win, but I wouldnt be suprised if we go all the way (after all boro and rangers got to the final).

Thing is I'm almost as confident with that team and Harry getting them playing well as with the first team. The wingers are both match winners, I like Ghaly, I even think Boeteng is underated, he's young, strong and physical and has had a some good games. The defence would be solid and you have goalscorers up top. Campbell is a real handful, great attitude, your not at ManU without ability, never stops running and haring after defenders.

I want a look at many of these players under Harry as well. I still think the first team could be greatly supplemented by some of these players, as I say you could make a bloody decent side out of them too.

Perhaps start JoH instead of Boeteng, I forgot about him, like him a lot and I bet Harry would turn him into a class central midfielder. I thought he was the best cm in the last regime, produced the only complete midfield performance I've seen since Carrick and a past his best Davids combined on his debut.

He lost confidence with the Ramos disintegration, but still noticeably was the only cm still trying to do the right things and what he was supposed to be doing. I'd say Harry could do great things with him, he's a great lad, with real BOTTLE and ability.

I know my opinion about picking this side is illogical, but call it intuitive I think these boys will be fricking hungry and Harry could get great confidence flowing in them. I really think the others need a break too. I bet you if the first team plays they will flunk. The last week has been such a rollercoaster and they will be wanting a breather now that they have completed a HUGE step.

I'm not saying you excuse it but it often happens that way, they are human and sometimes you just need to be taken out.

Plus Fulham is important as well. Let's get europe via the league as the main goal.

I don't believe in rotation but I believe there are times to rest players and even the whole team. The squad is very important to modern football.

As it goes I see little between our reserves and pools. They've a very average squad by cl standards outside the first 11.

[gomessi]

I think what Col_MCFC had to say interesting

Most definitely mate. He played as a DM over the Christmas period for us last season while Didi was suspended, and I reckon those were his best games for us. I think he played in that position against Newcastle, Liverpool and Everton and only conceded 1 goal, which says it all really. Even though he's a great right back, he has ALL the attributes to be a top class Defensive Midfielder in my opinion.

Good oppurtunity to see what corluka is like in dm. Hudd doesnt convince he was totally dominated against lpool and arsenal and he was playing against 10 man man city for most of the match.

I would like to see corluka given a go there.

[olly27]

Liverpool team news looks pretty good despite, possibly, Torres starting...

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N162059081111-1521.htm

[Rojoknapp]

I'd play:

Cesar
Hutton Corluka Rocha Gilbert
Lennon Ghaly Boeteng Taarabt
Campbell Pavlyechenko

With a power packed bench if things are going tits up.

But I would want to try some of these players and I would expect a good performance and possibly winning. I think we have a strong and deep squad in many ways and it should show. I'm sure Harry can get these lads ready, willing, believing in themselves and playing better like he has done with basically all of the lads so far.

This will also help some like Hutton with fitness and also have a look at the lads who were frozen out unfairly. I'd be particularly interested in Taarby, Ghaly and Boeteng to see how they are doing. I've seen enough of Rocha to know what he can do. I think he is a solid squad man.

Some might see this as prioritising but to be honest I think some of these lads deserve a chance, will be very hungry to make an impression and have a lot of ability amongst them.

The first teamers may take a breath and relax after all the stress and their efforts in getting to relative safety (league and uafa) and I can see a bad performance possibly coming unless we shake it up a bit too. I think it may be an idea to rest many as well. The games have been thick and fast and we want them pepped to beat Fulham and climb another bunch up the table.

With that team out, things couldn't possibly NOT go tits up. Between Hutton, Ghaly, KPB and Taarabt we wouldn't actually be able to hold possession for longer than 10 seconds. Why some people want to see KPB and ghaly given a chance, but would turn their nose up at the likes of Heskey I don't know. KPB and Ghaly are stoke/ fulham/ west ham quality players at best. They might not even be that, just championship. I like Hutton and Taarby, but Hutton is dreadful atm and taarabt gives the ball away a bit, so I don't think you can play him with KPB and Ghaly at the same time.

[choda]

With that team out, things couldn't possibly NOT go tits up. Between Hutton, Ghaly, KPB and Taarabt we wouldn't actually be able to hold possession for longer than 10 seconds. Why some people want to see KPB and ghaly given a chance, but would turn their nose up at the likes of Heskey I don't know. KPB and Ghaly are stoke/ fulham/ west ham quality players at best. They might not even be that, just championship. I like Hutton and Taarby, but Hutton is dreadful atm and taarabt gives the ball away a bit, so I don't think you can play him with KPB and Ghaly at the same time.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at Heskey but I don't know how he'd get in the team right now as Bent is prolific and Modric is Modric, sorry Godric. Haven't said that for a while. :thumbup:

[choda]

With that team out, things couldn't possibly NOT go tits up. Between Hutton, Ghaly, KPB and Taarabt we wouldn't actually be able to hold possession for longer than 10 seconds. Why some people want to see KPB and ghaly given a chance, but would turn their nose up at the likes of Heskey I don't know. KPB and Ghaly are stoke/ fulham/ west ham quality players at best. They might not even be that, just championship. I like Hutton and Taarby, but Hutton is dreadful atm and taarabt gives the ball away a bit, so I don't think you can play him with KPB and Ghaly at the same time.

Funny cause that's how I feel about Zok and JJ, but the other two are young and could develop. I don't think they will, but they might and I'd like to see them given more of a chance along with others as midfield has been poor for so long.

Anythings better than Zok and JJ, and Harry has even been getting performances after only tweaking the team. Over time he will be picking more of his own players and trying things out.

[Rojoknapp]

I wouldn't turn my nose up at Heskey but I don't know how he'd get in the team right now as Bent is prolific and Modric is Modric, sorry Godric. Haven't said that for a while. :thumbup:

ok, sorry i didn't know your thoughts on heskey, but my point was one in general, and I agree about Bent, but Heskey would be a new dimension for us. But anyway, I'm sure there are people who would want ghaly and KPB but not heskey so that's my point.

[Rojoknapp]

Funny cause that's how I feel about Zok and JJ, but the other two are young and could develop. I don't think they will, but they might and I'd like to see them given more of a chance along with others as midfield has been poor for so long.

Anythings better than Zok and JJ, and Harry even has been getting performances after only tweaking the team. Over time he will be picking more of his own players and trying things out.

If we played KPB and Ghaly in midfield for every prem game, I think you would realise that anything is most certainly not better than Zok and JJ. It is satggering that anyone can believe that ghaly and boateng could do anything better than JJ and zok, and I don't even like zok or think he's good, but I do know that KPB and Ghaly are truly, utterly SH*TE

[gomessi]

If we played KPB and Ghaly in midfield for every prem game, I think you would realise that anything is most certainly not better than Zok and JJ. It is satggering that anyone can believe that ghaly and boateng could do anything better than JJ and zok, and I don't even like zok or think he's good, but I do know that KPB and Ghaly are truly, utterly SH*TE

JJ, JOH, Hudd, Zok, KPB, Ghaly will never make top 4 central midfield standard a couple should be kept as squad members (JJ and Hudd) andt the rest sold asap

If we want to be a top 4 team we need top top players in midfield. Modric and Corluka fit that category.

[berbzy 'G']

If we played KPB and Ghaly in midfield for every prem game, I think you would realise that anything is most certainly not better than Zok and JJ. It is satggering that anyone can believe that ghaly and boateng could do anything better than JJ and zok, and I don't even like zok or think he's good, but I do know that KPB and Ghaly are truly, utterly SH*TE

I 100% agree, They are utter shite.

[choda]

If we played KPB and Ghaly in midfield for every prem game, I think you would realise that anything is most certainly not better than Zok and JJ. It is satggering that anyone can believe that ghaly and boateng could do anything better than JJ and zok, and I don't even like zok or think he's good, but I do know that KPB and Ghaly are truly, utterly SH*TE

No, having watched them for years I would take almost anyone, believe me, they are a nothing pair almost always.

[choda]

I actually said I forgot about JoH, and wanted a game with him and Ghaly, see how they get on. Trying Corluka is another idea, but I'm already convinced that is the way to go anyway.

[jrio]

If we played KPB and Ghaly in midfield for every prem game, I think you would realise that anything is most certainly not better than Zok and JJ. It is satggering that anyone can believe that ghaly and boateng could do anything better than JJ and zok, and I don't even like zok or think he's good, but I do know that KPB and Ghaly are truly, utterly SH*TE

Ghaly is far from shite. He has a good eye for a pass, works hard, and can finish under pressure. His passing can be over-ambitious and his discipline can easily go on a walkabout. You should know you're up a gum tree when the G man 100% agrees with you. :scared:

[olly27]

Ghaly is a bloody decent player, allbeit he was a bit raw. He offered tenacity and breaking runs from midfield to get forward, no better demonstarted in his goal against Chelsea in the cup two seasons ago.

[Spur]

Ghaly and Prince ahead of Zokora. Anyday.

[TURKISH]

Ghaly and Prince ahead of Zokora. Anyday.

Agreed. I didn't understand the ghaly witch hunt. I allways rated him has a great heart, has abit about him and gets stuck in. He had a great game at chelsea in thr FA cup a couple of seasons ago.

[GQCoolest]

While Ghaly has had a few decent games, he has also had some absolute SHOCKERS as well. I seem to recall quite a few matches where Ghaly gave the ball away pretty much every time he touched it, got way too overambitious with his passing, and ruined good spells of possession by just giving it to the other team. People get on JJ for being inconsistent, but I seem to remember Ghaly putting in excellent shifts, only to be followed with complete garbage shifts that made him look like a Sunday footballer.

[olly27]

While Ghaly has had a few decent games, he has also had some absolute SHOCKERS as well. I seem to recall quite a few matches where Ghaly gave the ball away pretty much every time he touched it, got way too overambitious with his passing, and ruined good spells of possession by just giving it to the other team. People get on JJ for being inconsistent, but I seem to remember Ghaly putting in excellent shifts, only to be followed with complete garbage shifts that made him look like a Sunday footballer.

The difference being that JJ, with the experience he has had in this league compared to Ghaly who was new and raw, should of been delivering more consistent performances at this stage in his career.

[Gino Ginelli]

I think we should go for this with everything. Confidence is everything as our own Harry is saying, and the team are on an absolute high right now. To rest them for a weakened team, only for us to lose and suffer a dip in form and confidence would have a much bigger negative impact on our league form than having the first team not be rested.

Plus, we are the holders of this competition and I want us to defend it like it means something to us, that winning our first trophy in 9 years had real significance. I don't buy into this "lesser competition" bollocks... a cup competition is a real test of a team and club on any given day. If the much lauded "top four" don't respect it and want to put a weakened team out for it then that just says alot about those clubs; especially Wenger seeing it only as a youth training scheme. That just tells me he doesn't have much respect for the footballing traditions of this country and it's league.

So I want us to go for it, and use Benitez's decision to drop key players to our advantage.

Beating Liverpool twice in as many weeks and staying in one of the 2 domestic cup competitions would be another huge boost to the club and the squad, and send a message to everyone (again).

Oh, and I while Ghaly isn't that bad, he isn't exactly that good either, and I do not want to see KPB in a spurs shirt again. He's just flat out terrible.

[GQCoolest]

Yeah, but there's inexperience, and there's looking like you've played football before. In some of Ghaly's performances, it looked like we just dragged some nobody off the street and told him to kick the ball about. JJ is up and down like a roller coaster, while Ghaly is up and down like a mountain range.

[Spur]

BEN says Pav and FC starting.

Bent and Modric on bench.

[olly27]

BEN says Pav and FC starting.

Bent and Modric on bench.

Thats what I thought he would start with.

[olly27]

Yeah, but there's inexperience, and there's looking like you've played football before. In some of Ghaly's performances, it looked like we just dragged some nobody off the street and told him to kick the ball about. JJ is up and down like a roller coaster, while Ghaly is up and down like a mountain range.

I recall he had a few bad games but I wouldn't go that far personally.

[gomessi]

Off to the game need to catch the 17:15 from lpool st to whl....:scared:

need to sprint to mile end.

Can undestant bent resting but modric as well:sad:

[MiloMinderbinder]

Off to the game need to catch the 17:15 from lpool st to whl....:scared:

need to sprint to mile end.

Can undestant bent resting but modric as well:sad:


Ha ha ha ha ha ha,you get public transport to WHL?! Are you mental? Worst ground ever, why do you think the car parks get away with charging £10 for 2 hours? BTW, train from Finsbury Park is easier if you live North.

[Spur]

Both half decent line-ups.

My bet is 3-0 Spurs at half time, ending up 5-1. Gomes error.

[irishspur]

KPB is ok just needs time. He got young player of the season in the Bundesliga just before we signed him he needs a proper chance he never got one under Ramos.

[GQCoolest]

Hudd and Zokora had better not get bossed by freaking Plessis and Lucas. They look to be going 442 with Plessis in front of the back 4, Babel, Lucas, and El Zhar in fron of him, and Torres and Ngog up front. Very attacking lineup they have. We could get battered.

[Baleinho]

Anyone know any streams for this lads? ive got no money; so no pub for me :<

[GQCoolest]

Try this one Croydon

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/347619

[Baleinho]

Try this one Croydon

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/347619

LEGEND BOY!

[peterc]

Try http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed12.11/Tottenham_Liverpool.html

[matthius23]

Still jet-lagged from NYC so watching this one at homne tonite. Bright start, Pav shoulda maybe have put that header away! Babel worries me, he's fantastic!

[Baleinho]

indeed. pretty bright start there. trying the sopcast link; the first one has shite commentary :P lol

[peterc]

JOH, should be on the bench.

[matthius23]

Have we deserved that orWHAT??!?!

[peterc]

Goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal Pav.

[TURKISH]

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-395.html

Everyone playing well but hudd is looking good.


COYS! Great goal by pav well done frazer.

[TURKISH]

What a goal by frazer!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[peterc]

Fraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazer. Coys.

[matthius23]

Whoooo, I'm dancing round my living room like a complete bellend! Get in Fraz!!!!

[matthius23]

YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSS! I love it, I ****in' love it!!!!

[TURKISH]

What a goal by Frazer!!!!!!

[peterc]

Cooooooooooooooooooooooome On. 3-0 Fraser.

[LifeTimeYido]

Ive just creamed my pants !! :drool: :drool:

JOH for left mid !!!

[peterc]

Well, Well, Well, who would have expected that?

[matthius23]

What a goal by Frazer!!!!!!

Echo echo echo

[Ioang]

Did a trial run on PES a few hours ago, beat them 3-0, flatmate said that'd never happen.... COYS!!

[TURKISH]

Ive just creamed my pants !! :drool: :drool:

JOH for left mid !!!

Now lets not over do it!!!!!! :001_tt2:

Everyone looking good. Harry has got them buzzing.

Come on fraizer get a hattrick!

[lol]

lmao at benitez and lucas. i love all that trash talk. i love all those interviews abotu how you will come back with a vengeance. I LOVE IT

[LifeTimeYido]

Now lets not over do it!!!!!! :001_tt2:

Everyone looking good. Harry has got them buzzing.

Come on fraizer get a hattrick!

That left peg is spanking some good crosses in though.

cmon you gotta admit it.........

[corkspur]

not too bad a performance so far i suppose,yes,you could say im reasonably happy!! we have had worse 1st halves i guess!!!!

[TURKISH]

That left peg is spanking some good crosses in though.

cmon you gotta admit it.........

A poor liverpool right wing. Can't beat his man. Good left peg but against liverpool last time he did nothing. Just my opinion.

[Milney yid]

Can we play you every week? It's too easy being a Spurs fan at the moment, where's the traditional heartbreak and frustration gone?

[TURKISH]

Lets hope we don't **** it up!!!!!!!

[Spur]

JoH didn't put a foot right until late on.

Campbell don't give up on anything. Great take down for the first and finish for the second. Pav good finish, and good cross from FC. But what about that cross from Lennon :ohmy: Talk about a cross. Very unlike him.

But let's not get too over excited by this.

I do like how my prediction from earlier is spot on though :thumbup:

[GQCoolest]

Excellent first half from the lads. Never thought we'd be 3-0 up.

Lennon's crosses have been excellent. Looks like he's been working on those.

[Spur]

Can we play you every week? It's too easy being a Spurs fan at the moment, where's the traditional heartbreak and frustration gone?

Still got a second half to go yet :scared:

[peterc]

JoH didn't put a foot right until late on.

Campbell don't give up on anything. Great take down for the first and finish for the second. Pav good finish, and good cross from FC. But what about that cross from Lennon :ohmy: Talk about a cross. Very unlike him.

But let's not get too over excited by this.

I do like how my prediction from earlier is spot on though :thumbup:


Hope you stick to this prediction for the rest of the season Spur.:thumbup1:

[peterc]

Gomes, wTF.

[matthius23]

The dozy ****. He's had nothing to do all game!

[TURKISH]

Zokora!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GQCoolest]

Wow Zokora what a run! Way to put it right Pav!

[peterc]

And the Spurs go marching on 4-1, PAVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV.

[matthius23]

This is just insane. Zokora is looking like scoring tonite!

[TURKISH]

This is just insane. Zokora is looking like scoring tonite!

I was screaming for him to score.

[GQCoolest]

Torres off fot Insua. Rafa waving the white flag?

[matthius23]

I love this on BBC website

"Liverpool, needing three goals, take off the world's best striker (possibly) Fernando Torres, for Emiliano Insua"

[MarlowSpurs]

just got in from work and what the fvck, oh and why can't we defend corners??????

[GQCoolest]

Jesus Gomes, I thought you were getting better. 4-2.

[peterc]

Gomes f*cks up again.:cursing:

[matthius23]

Harry has to realise that Gomes is our weak link!!! Sign Foster or Green!!!

[TURKISH]

Not just gomes fault. Why is pav marking sami?

[JuicE]

Gomes is fukking hopeless!!!!!

[MarlowSpurs]

my fvcking heart ain't going to last the last 25 min's

[peterc]

Wow, he nearly lost that one, Gomes is looking dodgy as f*ck.

[MarlowSpurs]

fvck gomes is sparked out cold

[JuicE]

Hopefully long enough to miss a few months










Sorry.....a bit harsh i know!

[GQCoolest]

Well, Cesar will certainly be coming on here, unless he wants to play in goal unconsciousl.

[TURKISH]

The sky propganda slagging off gomes but aluminia has been just as poor but don't say nothing.

A keeper who is very highly rated who confidence is shattered just like robbo's. We don't pretect our keepers enough pav let sami go free, school boy error.

[peterc]

Good to see the players have a quick chat. That shows the team spirit. COYS.

[JuicE]

LOL Burnley have scored!

[MarlowSpurs]

well it doesn't look good for gomes

[MarlowSpurs]

LOL Burnley have scored!

lets hope they get another

[jrio]

The sky propganda slagging off gomes but aluminia has been just as poor but don't say nothing.

A keeper who is very highly rated who confidence is shattered just like robbo's. We don't pretect our keepers enough pav let sami go free, school boy error.
He hasn't muppeted 2 goals from corners to a Pool reserve side or equivalent.

[JuicE]

The passing has been fantastic.......sorry...Triffic!!!!

[MarlowSpurs]

The passing has been fantastic.......sorry...Triffic!!!!

thats ok Rodney

[TURKISH]

He hasn't muppeted 2 goals from corners to a Pool reserve side or equivalent.

He has been poor this season alot worse than gomes. My scum mate is a season ticket holder he can't stand him.

[jrio]

He has been poor this season alot worse than gomes. My scum mate is a season ticket holder he can't stand him.

That's rubbish. Gomes has looked a massive liability, however poor Almunia has looked. Gomes can't cope with crosses and balls into the box under pressure. He lacks bottle and experience.

[JuicE]

We're challenging all the balls and chasing everything ATM. What a difference!!!!!

[JuicE]

Did Bale get the touch????? I couldn't see!

[MarlowSpurs]

Did Bale get the touch????? I couldn't see!

if he did it was the faintest of touches lucky boy

[TURKISH]

That's rubbish. Gomes has looked a massive liability, however poor Almunia has looked. Gomes can't cope with crosses and balls into the box under pressure. He lacks bottle and experience.

Its not rubbish just continue to listen to the sky propaganda. Gomes had a good start to the season and many fans said he was our best performer. Than he makes a few mistakes and everyone jumps on his back.

[MarlowSpurs]

Its not rubbish just continue to listen to the sky propaganda. Gomes had a good start to the season and many fans said he was our best performer. Than he makes a few mistakes and everyone jumps on his back.

Ignore the ****s that are on sky they are so far up the big 4 arses they have got lost looking for a way out

[peterc]

Come on lads, one more goal.

[JuicE]

I think SKY Propaganda's pushing it a bit far mate!

Gomes is not what we need. He is our weakest link ATM.

[peterc]

Pav and Bent together, see whether they can play together.

[MarlowSpurs]

come on benty make it 5

[JuicE]

The boys are looking fitter under Harry than they ever did under the Ramos era. The diet of pies and pints is working again!

[MarlowSpurs]

what the hell has happened to Zokora??????????

[JuicE]

Pav and Bent together, see whether they can play together.

Not!!!!!!!!!!

[MarlowSpurs]

The Prince has arrived

[MarlowSpurs]

FVCKING GET IN THERE. Teach then scouse bastards to sign Keane

[JuicE]

Brilliant performance!!!

[TURKISH]

Who says zokora can't tackle?

Everyone played well concentration on set pieces still not there. But overall play we were excellent. The prince done well when he came on. Pav and fraizer looked good. Hudd looked great again lets hope he can do this against a prem side in the league.

I hope gomes is ok and harry keeps winning.

[highlander]

perfect 1st half performance, great to see campbell getting a chance and he was my man of the match. once again the hudd shone. also even though he only had a few minutes KPB looked pretty handy to me

[peterc]

BIBI Liverpool, Arry's Blue and White Army.

[TURKISH]

FVCKING GET IN THERE. Teach then scouse bastards to sign Keane

LOOOOOOL :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1:

[Spur]

Anyone else singing Glory, Glory in a rather loud, rather bad Scottish accent?

I am.

[matthius23]

I think SKY Propaganda's pushing it a bit far mate!

Gomes is not what we need. He is our weakest link ATM. Agreed. Just look at teh sheer frustration on our players faces whenever we concede due to Gomes bad decisions.

On the plus side, we were great tonite. MOTM is a three way tie between Hudd, F.C and Pav for me. Nervy end after Alonso came on and Pool upped their game!

[MarlowSpurs]

and chelsea are still drawing with burnley. hahhahahhahhah

[jrio]

Its not rubbish just continue to listen to the sky propaganda. Gomes had a good start to the season and many fans said he was our best performer. Than he makes a few mistakes and everyone jumps on his back.

It's more than a few. I've not even heard the Sky propaganda, preferring to use the evidence of my own eyes. He was our best performer, then disintegrated and shown more of the same tonight.

[JuicE]

Lennon run his little socks off but just lost it at the end before he could cross. Very good allround performance and you can really see the effort at last.

[Milney yid]

Good performance, good win... the 'Arry bandwagon rolls on. Just out of curiosity, how many people, like me, as soon as the game is won and in the bag really focus on Zokora, urging him to just pissing score a goal? I just really wanna see what his reaction would be

[JuicE]

So is that us into the Semi's now?

[MarlowSpurs]

right lets have a look at the poll and see who voted Liverpool to win....

[Spur]

Good performance, good win... the 'Arry bandwagon rolls on. Just out of curiosity, how many people, like me, as soon as the game is won and in the bag really focus on Zokora, urging him to just pissing score a goal? I just really wanna see what his reaction would be

I want to be there when he scores. The place will go ****ing mental!!!!!!!!!!

I have a feeling it's coming soon. Definitely!

[berbzy 'G']

Champions retaining thier trophy :biggrin:

[heartofspurs]

I am very happy! Very happy! Did I mention that I was happy?!
Great first goal by Frazer, goal poaching at it's best and some great play! What has 'arry done!

[Ioang]

He's becoming a liability but apparently Cesar is so crap we played Gomes despite bruised ribs (remember him screaming his face off?!).

Brilliant performance, Hudd MOTM but not by lot. He properly bossed it. Lennon was pretty handy too. Not really a poor performance out there.

Any unbiased views, was it a pen? The guy on BBC live says no.

[Spur]

I've just made up a song about Zokora.

Whoooa, Zokora, whoooa.
Zokora, whoooa....
He comes from the Ivory Coast.
I want him to score the most.
Whoooa, Zokora, Whoooa.

[MarlowSpurs]

He's becoming a liability but apparently Cesar is so crap we played Gomes despite bruised ribs (remember him screaming his face off?!).

Brilliant performance, Hudd MOTM but not by lot. He properly bossed it. Lennon was pretty handy too. Not really a poor performance out there.

Any unbiased views, was it a pen? The guy on BBC live says no.


NO.............................

[berbzy 'G']

I've just made up a song about Zokora.

Whoooa, Zokora, whoooa.
Zokora, whoooa....
He comes from the Ivory Coast.
I want him to score the most.
Whoooa, Zokora, Whoooa.

moderatley ok :sleep:

[JuicE]

Rafa thought so, he was going off his head!

Anyway, 4 -3's still a win!

[jrio]

He's becoming a liability but apparently Cesar is so crap we played Gomes despite bruised ribs (remember him screaming his face off?!).

Brilliant performance, Hudd MOTM but not by lot. He properly bossed it. Lennon was pretty handy too. Not really a poor performance out there.

Any unbiased views, was it a pen? The guy on BBC live says no.

Looked a pen. Might have needed Gerrard to get it. :wink:

[matthius23]

I've just made up a song about Zokora.

Whoooa, Zokora, whoooa.
Zokora, whoooa....
He comes from the Ivory Coast.
I want him to score the most.
Whoooa, Zokora, Whoooa.

Or to make it a little continental...

Whoooa, Zokora, whoooa.
Zokora, whoooa....
He comes from Cote d'Ivore.
When will he ****ing score?
Whoooa, Zokora, Whoooa

:blush:

[jrio]

I want to be there when he scores. The place will go ****ing mental!!!!!!!!!!

I have a feeling it's coming soon. Definitely!

More likely Spurs to be relegated than Zokora to score.

[peterc]

Chelsea 1-1 Burnley Extra time. :confused1:

[TURKISH]

Agreed. Just look at teh sheer frustration on our players faces whenever we concede due to Gomes bad decisions.

On the plus side, we were great tonite. MOTM is a three way tie between Hudd, F.C and Pav for me. Nervy end after Alonso came on and Pool upped their game!

Gomes had nothing to do with them not winning there headers and picking up there markers. Pav is wrong side sami on second goal and what did gomes do wrong first goal?

[GQCoolest]

Came out, got nowhere near the ball, and then probably still should have saved Plessis' weak header. If there's nobody on the posts, he needs to have better judgment in when to come for crosses, and when to let defenders deal with them.

[matthius23]

Gomes had nothing to do with them not winning there headers and picking up there markers. Pav is wrong side sami on second goal and what did gomes do wrong first goal?

Came, went half back, left stranded. Look where the header went, on his line he woulda cushioned it easily without moving an inch.

[irishspur]

Still 1-1 in cheaski game, theres only one ADE AKINBAYI:drool:

[Spur]

Gomes had nothing to do with them not winning there headers and picking up there markers. Pav is wrong side sami on second goal and what did gomes do wrong first goal?

Flopped, then went :scared:

It's not is first mistake.

[TURKISH]

Players should win there headers and not let there marker have a free header.

[berbzy 'G']

Campbell should start upfront with Bent against Fulham.

[JuicE]

You can't blame the defenders if the keeper comes out and flaps for thin air!

[irishspur]

Players should win there headers and not let there marker have a free header.

I agree hyppia was there biggest arial threat we should have had daws or vedran should have been on him.

[Spur]

Players should win there headers and not let there marker have a free header.

I'm a keeper. I'm more than willing to blame absolutely everything on those in front of me. But when I make a mistake, I hold my hands up and that's done on me. No if's or but's.

Not everything can be blamed on those in front, sometimes he has to take responsibility.

I will say don't believe all the hype though. Some people will attribute everything to him, just like they did Robbo.

[Mattyboii]

chelsea now in penalties
HAHAHA

[TURKISH]

I'm a keeper. I'm more than willing to blame absolutely everything on those in front of me. But when I make a mistake, I hold my hands up and that's done on me. No if's or but's.

Not everything can be blamed on those in front, sometimes he has to take responsibility.

I will say don't believe all the hype though. Some people will attribute everything to him, just like they did Robbo.

What you mean everyone will blame gomes/robbo ect?

Im not saying he doesn't make mistakes but the defenders didn't pick up there markers and gave them a free header which is just as bad as what gomes did. He makes mistakes but its seems the spot light is on him for everything he does. Just like paul last year people want to jump on his back.

Bottom line is we need to defend better from set pieces and that goes from the keeper to the strikers.

[jrio]

What you mean everyone will blame gomes/robbo ect?

Im not saying he doesn't make mistakes but the defenders didn't pick up there markers and gave them a free header which is just as bad as what gomes did. He makes mistakes but its seems the spot light is on him for everything he does. Just like paul last year people want to jump on his back.

Bottom line is we need to defend better from set pieces and that goes from the keeper to the strikers.

Regardless of that, don't be behind Hyppia when he's unchallenged from a corner in the 6 yard box,and there's no crowd of players. Simple, no? Calamity James has nothing on this guy. :cursing:

[deadleyledley]

i think that some part of it was the defenders' fault aswell because the left the best header to the shortest guy in the box.

however the erformance today was very good and zokora should have got the man of the match award not campbell.
he was everywhere on that pitch and he won nearly every tackle.

[GQCoolest]

HAHA, Chelsea are OUT. Bring on Burnley!!!

[irishspur]

YYYYEEEEEEEHHHHHHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH
Burnley win 5-4 on penalties:drool: :001_smile: :crying:

[JuicE]

HAHA, Chelsea are OUT. Bring on Burnley!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!

[TURKISH]

Regardless of that, don't be behind Hyppia when he's unchallenged from a corner in the 6 yard box,and there's no crowd of players. Simple, no? Calamity James has nothing on this guy. :cursing:

You sure? :thumbdown:

Defenders should have done better. Just like last year everything was allways pauls fault, even with our dodgy defence. Gomes made the mistake but sami shouldn't have had the free header in the first place imo.

If our player had won the header than we wouldn't be talking about this. Or if gomes would of punches or catched it.

You don't become a bad keeper over night, he was class for psv give the guy a break.

[TURKISH]

YYYYEEEEEEEHHHHHHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH
Burnley win 5-4 on penalties:drool: :001_smile: :crying:

Quality i thought they ****ed it when they missed.

[Spur]

What you mean everyone will blame gomes/robbo ect?

Im not saying he doesn't make mistakes but the defenders didn't pick up there markers and gave them a free header which is just as bad as what gomes did. He makes mistakes but its seems the spot light is on him for everything he does. Just like paul last year people want to jump on his back.

Bottom line is we need to defend better from set pieces and that goes from the keeper to the strikers.

Some people put everything on them. Scapegoating the easy way.

You sure? :thumbdown:

Defenders should have done better. Just like last year everything was allways pauls fault, even with our dodgy defence. Gomes made the mistake but sami shouldn't have had the free header in the first place imo.

If our player had won the header than we wouldn't be talking about this. Or if gomes would of punches or catched it.

You don't become a bad keeper over night, he was class for psv give the guy a break.

That's where you're wrong though. Robbo did for us, Gomes can do too. And he has always made errors, cataclysmic errors, fundamental, ludicrous, and downright bizarre errors.

[jrio]

You don't become a bad keeper over night, he was class for psv give the guy a break.
No, but you become a bad keeper in a league when you can't cope with the basics of defending in it. Look at that second goal again - Gomes looks absolutely adrift, coming to punch the ball and mostly punching Hyppia.

[GQCoolest]

Yes, but a lot of times, it's not necessarily about defenders winning headers, its about defenders forcing tame and weak headers, easily stoppable headers. Only those headers cannot be stopped if your keeper is flutterinig about in the middle of the area, playing the will I/won't I game.

[berbzy 'G']

Aslong as Man Utd v Arsenal in the next round, Then we should think about winning the competition.

[TURKISH]

Some people put everything on them. Scapegoating the easy way.



That's where you're wrong though. Robbo did for us, Gomes can do too. And he has always made errors, cataclysmic errors, fundamental, ludicrous, and downright bizarre errors.

Yer your right with all this witch hunting won't do him any good.

Harry turned things round for jamo so lets hope he can do the same for gomes.

[jrio]

If Harry can turn Gomes around, it would mean he could have stopped the Titanic sinking after being struck by an iceberg! Still, bearing in mind Spurs's start, and his results since, I wouldn't put it past him. At this rate I wouldn't put finishing in the top 4 past him.

[irishspur]

Aslong as Man Utd v Arsenal in the next round, Then we should think about winning the competition.

Im not worryin about arsenals u-21s we beat them 6-2 on aggregate last year when our team was weaker and they used toure, adebayor, and fibreglass. Bring em on! Man Utd are the only real threat they put out a strong team last night but we can take anyone. Nice to see two of the sky four gone in one brilliant night........

[gomessi]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha,you get public transport to WHL?! Are you mental? Worst ground ever, why do you think the car parks get away with charging £10 for 2 hours? BTW, train from Finsbury Park is easier if you live North.

I live in enfield but need to get from mile enf on week days.

actually public transport is great :001_smile: I left queen mary at exactly 17:00 and was at lpool st by 17:15 and got off at whl at 17:33 and was at the stewards toom by 17:40 so 40 minutes was good :001_smile:

I only caught the train by a minute so I was lucky to see a great performance (and especially from hoddlestone who I have criticised a lot).

Does anyone know what happened to gomes

[jrio]

Does anyone know what happened to gomes
He died of shame. :crying:

[peterc]

If Harry can turn Gomes around, it would mean he could have stopped the Titanic sinking after being struck by an iceberg! Still, bearing in mind Spurs's start, and his results since, I wouldn't put it past him. At this rate I wouldn't put finishing in the top 4 past him.

Now, let's not get too carried away. Top six is a possibility. top four might be stretching it a bit.

[irishspur]

Gomes dived v. bravely at degens feet and got a wallop hes ok gone out for a chinese according to harry lol.

[gomessi]

He died of shame. :crying:

you are a horrible person :thumbdown:

I was being serious when I asked because I didnt know but just heard harry said he should be OK.

[gomessi]

Gomes dived v. bravely at degens feet and got a wallop hes ok gone out for a chinese according to harry lol.

yeah heard that harry and gomes having a chinese sounds fun. Cant imagine what harry would say to him

[irishspur]

Lay off gomes man you cant deny his bravery he fvcking threw himself at that ball Degen was in on goal more than made up for at least one of his mistakes. Im just glad hes okay. Give him at least 6 months before rushing to judgement ffs:thumbdown:

[irishspur]

yeah heard that harry and gomes having a chinese sounds fun. Cant imagine what harry would say to him

Yeah at least they are eating normal food again nothin wrong with a chinese now and again Ramos had them on vegetable soup:001_rolleyes:

[berbzy 'G']

Gomes looks a nervous wreck. I didnt like it when people slagged him off cos he really is a decent keeper and is very highly rated. But since tonight I abcolutely shit myself when he is in goal :cursing:

[jrio]

Now, let's not get too carried away. Top six is a possibility. top four might be stretching it a bit.

Seriously, if he can get these kind of results with a calamity keeper, I wouldn't put raising the Titanic past him! :biggrin:

I mean, a Zokora run actually led to something - a goal! :scared:

[jrio]

you are a horrible person :thumbdown:

I was being serious when I asked because I didnt know but just heard harry said he should be OK.

I am, but on the positive side I do love my mother and always say my prayers at night. Me an' Elvis, man, we got a lot in common. :001_smile:

[TURKISH]

When the draw by the way?

Can you see arsene keeping his promise of playing his kids even if they draw us? They didn't last year.

I can see sir alex bringing his bigger players back so hopefully they will get a hard draw away from home which will knock them out as i see them as favourites.

Im glad chelsea are out because they allways play there strongest team.

[berbzy 'G']

When the draw by the way?

Can you see arsene keeping his promise of playing his kids even if they draw us? They didn't last year.

I can see sir alex bringing his bigger players back so hopefully they will get a hard draw away from home which will knock them out as i see them as favourites.

Im glad chelsea are out because they allways play there strongest team.

Draw is at noon on Saturday.

Man Utd v Arsenal
Burnley V Blackburn
Tottenham V Watford
Stoke V Derby

hopefully :cursing:

[inthewoods]

Wow....didnt expect that! I honestly expected Liverpool to beat us tonight but ive been happily proven wrong! Great performance from all the lads, even if it was liverpools second string, im delighted we've beaten them so convincingly! Another fantastic performance from the hudd, and great performances from pav and young F.C. Who is this new No 4 redknapp has brought with him? He looks a bit like that ol' player we used to have from the ivory coast...Zokora was it?

[JuicE]

Draw is at noon on Saturday.

Man Utd v Arsenal
Burnley V Blackburn
Tottenham V Watford
Stoke V Derby

hopefully :cursing:

We're not lucky mate! We'll get Manu or Arse away next. The other will get Watford at home. You wait and see! I know these things!!!!!!! My magnet has powers!

[mjbmedia]

We're not lucky mate! We'll get Manu or Arse away next. The other will get Watford at home. You wait and see! I know these things!!!!!!! My magnet has powers!
thats what we thought when Chelsea drew Burnley at home, and Man U only scrapped thru v QPR at home.

scum v Manc
Stoke v Blackburn
Derby v Burnley
Yids v Watford

:001_wub:

[wayne wonder]

Seriously come jan we need to go out and get a keeper because gomes is a liability when it comes to set pieces he's putting the defence under so much pressure .................so he's a good shot stopper so was robbo but he's getting raped at every corner its come to the point where i expect teams to score from EVERY corner we give.


Whats wrong with bale?? golden boys turned into BAE but yet doesnt get the stick both of them need a proper slap right about now. GOing forward Bale's great but defending he aint got a clue but he's young so he'll learn(at man utd)

[Gino Ginelli]

Well, that's the kind of poetic justice i like. My mate and I were saying just yesterday at work that Campbell's will probably start but he's a bit shit.

How wrong we were! He looks like a great little CF. Cheers Manure! Have to say I was really impressed with Lennon and especially O'Hara as well.

Again though, WTF is Gomes doing? He's a great shot stopper and one and one keeper, but claiming the high balls... he simply hasn't a clue about judging when to come, his timing when he does, and even claiming it properly... he just flys out and wipes out the defence. Idiot!!! Can we please get this drilled into him?!

[mjbmedia]

That was great. loved the look of the scouse fans when we went 3-0 up . fecking peasants .:001_smile:

FC took his first goal beautifully, the TV people made a meal of the defending screwing up, fact is, FC got in before either the keeper of defender so the fact they clashed is irrelevent.

We were GREAT, we would have done their first 11 playing like that too and no Gerrard to dive for a penalty either (back to the training ground scouse ****s for that one, Bale clearly got the ball, you could see the angle of rotation change after Bale flicked his boot at it dump ****er Phil big nose Thompson) .

Corluka awesome again , liked the huddle while Gomes was seen to too and it certainly worked as they stopped over running us after it.
Lennons attitude was perfect all game , really closing down well .
Zokora done good
hudd can pass :drool:
Pav can score and he can control it well too, a touch of Berbs control coming out in him with more to follow i feel.

Hutton looked stronger and Bale too , i mean fitness wise .

YESSSSSS

[olly27]

Firstly in a tighter game we would of lost due to two horrific mistakes by Gomes - and believe you me everybody would of been winging about him. Our passing was brillant and the Hudd is the most talented passer of the ball we have, no doubt. Getting back to Gomes, if you look at the first goal he actually runs off his line in a diagnol motion towards Plessis who tamely headers the ball into the net. If gomes had stood his ground he would of had the simplest of catches nevermind saves. For the second gets nowhere near the ball and and again it ends up being a lovely gift well wrapped. Yes you can talk about the defending but if you actually think about it - how the hell are you defenders to know if Gomes is going to actually get the ball, as they do know he's going to launch himself in an attempt. Ask Corluka he normally gets taken out. If your keeper is rushing out to get everything, do you allow him the room to do it? Do you both go for the ball and risk getting in each others way? For me it just causes more confusion and looks like a complete lottery as to who is going to deal with the incoming ball. Gomes needs to be more decisive in his decision making, its not the best policy to adopt in coming for everything - what other keeper can you think of who does that as much as Gomes does? He was brave though sliding into to get the ball when he got injured, and he has made some glorious saves insofar but he is still a liability. Harry and a goalkeeping coach really need to work with him or I dont see him beeing here for to long. Just wait until the next game when the margins are fine and the team have done really well for 70/80 mins and we condede like that which costs us 2/3 points.

As for the game we were brillant. The Hudd was superb as was FC. Lennon played really well too and looked like he could actually cross, and cross well.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Any unbiased views, was it a pen? The guy on BBC live says no.

Won the ball fair and square, just. May have only knicked it but even Phil Thompson relented on his claims for a pen.

[MiloMinderbinder]

I am, but on the positive side I do love my mother and always say my prayers at night. Me an' Elvis, man, we got a lot in common. :001_smile:

What? you're both fat, syphilitic, drug addled has beens that die on toilets with your trousers around your ankles. Fair enough :blush:

[MiloMinderbinder]

Im glad chelsea are out because they allways play there strongest team.

Right, that's it. THEIR, it's THEIR. if you are talking about a possesion of someone's or something, including a faculty or characteristic it's THEIR.

sorry, it just really gets my goat.

[Spur]

Right, that's it. THEIR, it's THEIR. if you are talking about a possesion of someone's or something, including a faculty or characteristic it's THEIR.

sorry, it just really gets my goat.

Sorry!

It's 'Sorry'!

Start of a new sentence = CAPITAL LETTER.

What a pedantic hypocrite.




:biggrin:

[MiloMinderbinder]

Sorry!

It's 'Sorry'!

Start of a new sentence = CAPITAL LETTER.

What a pedantic hypocrite.




:biggrin:

**** off you two timing forum whore. :001_wub:

[wayne wonder]

Hahahaha you bunch of slags

[berbzy 'G']

Right, that's it. THEIR, it's THEIR. if you are talking about a possesion of someone's or something, including a faculty or characteristic it's THEIR.

sorry, it just really gets my goat.

there he goes again :001_rolleyes:

[Benjo]

Here you have a Highlights of the match.

http://www.mediafire.com/?nfywonkwyyd

[choda]

I watched the game this morning and I thought it was a terrific performance. You can talk about installing confidence and it is important but you have to instruct properly as well and Harry is clearly doing that. The way we are chasing down the opposition is Sevilla esq. Are you getting the irony? Juande has left the boys very fit indeed, but it is the direction that has changed, perhaps due to the language and communication being excellent now more than anything.

Last night liverpool were caught in a whirlwind. This is what it's about chaps, if you can get our side working like that we will win and win and win because then the talent will start to come to the fore as well.

We blew them off the pitch last night. By the way Rafa really is awful at transfers, as shown by his appalling second string. He's just stumbled and prodded himself to a first team, but it has taken SO long. I think they may well win the league now though, really dangerous team.

But last night we were great all over, bar some shocking play from Gomes and another Bale defensive error, where he was very blessed to have gotten away with it. He may have gotten a millimeter of the ball, but is that enough when you hack a guy down that was in on goal even after your touch? Not for me.

I don't want to lay into Gomes, he's probably injured, has shown some remarkable potential to win games for us and is still getting settled to a new team and league. It's far too early for all the vilification he is getting.

It's not like he's been shocking for a year like Robbo was before he started to get real stick. And he carried on being horrendous for another year and is still diabolical. Gomes hasn't even been horrendous so far, he's been a mixed bag but unreal at shot stopping and one on ones.

Just needs to make better decisions on crosses and calm down a bit. He can do that, he's got the hardest attributes to have, bravery and brilliant athleticism. Hope he will sort it out.

Anyway, last night I thought Hudd was unreal, even better again. It's looking promising now with him, at last. And the Zok was like Davids. We WON midfield completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you believe it?

JoH was out of position but did well I thought. I think that's his worst position of the three he plays, he looks a bit limited as a left winger. He'd be far better inside, as his brain, distribution and tackling are his main strengths.

Lennon was excellent, his first touch was unreal. Crossing is improving. Match winner as he always was and stretches defences, would have been madness to sell him.

Corluka is a come in pants footballer, I'd say he'd be majestic anywhere, but I'm betting DM would bring the best out of him.

The prince came on and looked pretty good too. I don't care what anyone says he has potential that kid, he's strong, has a touch and two feet.

The main difference is the work rate, the confidence and that we are trying desperately to be first to the ball. And the players are being told what to do, the right things and keep it simple. Move the ball, keep it rolling, want the ball, give the man on the ball options and pass it forward when you can, square if nothing good is on. Simple.

Off the ball win the 50/50's, be first to the ball, look for the second ball, win your individual battles, close the ball down, watch the runners, pressure, pressure, pressure. Do it in teamwork to make it organised. Simple.

And get them to believe they can win games of football and do really well. Simple.

But what a difference Harry has made. My God that is what I call a performance. That reminded me of two of the teams I've admired the most over the years, Man United when they are revved up to win and Sevilla under Ramos. The success is in the will to win, doing the right simple things and talent.

We have it all (nearly), as I said only the right instruction and some tweaking was necessary and just some more tweaking in the transfer market to make sure we get continue to get better.

[wayne wonder]

My only gripe is when they go into tackles they go in like *****s!!! If your gonna tackle do it u c*nts!!! :cursing:

[singapore spur]

just watching the game now , best performance of the season in my book .
ok gomes was pretty poor , didnt have much to do but what he did was poor , thought ohara and bale a bit sloppy and wasteful but cant fault anyones attitude and work rate .
hudd my MOM , an exquisite passing performance though not every team will give him the space and time to dictate as liverpool did.

( as an aside , i saw one of my old mates from my teenage years was the 4th official trying to calm down benitez after the bale penalty claim :001_smile: )

[jrio]

Right, that's it. THEIR, it's THEIR. if you are talking about a possesion of someone's or something, including a faculty or characteristic it's THEIR.

sorry, it just really gets my goat.

While you're at it, tell him(along with a few others) that it's "should/could/would 'VE" not "of". :cursing: It's an abbreviation of "have", you clowns.

[MiloMinderbinder]

While you're at it, tell him(along with a few others) that it's "should/could/would 'VE" not "of". :cursing: It's an abbreviation of "have", you clowns.

and differentiate between "to" and "too", seriously if you don't know the difference, kill yourselves to save the world from the potential of your evil machinations and spawn.:001_wub:

[Apples]

and differentiate between "to" and "too", seriously if you don't know the difference, kill yourselves to save the world from the potential of your evil machinations and spawn.:001_wub:

Your both a couple of clown's yourselfs or should i say

You're a couple of clowns yourselves!

[jrio]

Your both a couple of clown's yourselfs or should i say

You're a couple of clowns yourselves!

I'd disagree, except our car's backfiring, the doors are swinging open, and it's only spluttering forward! :cursing:

[JuicE]

Don't worry guys!

The language difficulties you're experiencing will not cause the entire English language to go extinct. It is protected by a small and remote colony of settlers that are safeguarding it for you should you ever require it back.


















We call it "Adelaide"! :001_smile: