Match Thread: Manchester City vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[berbzy 'G']

I dont know about this game. Can't see us doing much there, It's f*cking Robinho I'm worried about :cursing: . It's proberbly gonna be 2-1 Man City, Hope I'm wrong :glare:

[mjbmedia]

id maybe man 4 man Robhino maybe with JOH & then Zok , one booking each allowed then . But the guy still needs his teamates to pass to and make space for him, he aint that great.

bent to score and Modric 2-1

[SurreySpur]

Im going to go for a 1-1 draw. Mainly because everytime i predict a draw we win!!

[Gino Ginelli]

Bring 'em on! We're scoring goals again, with Bent and Pav finding their confidence and finding the target at last. Man City played some nice stuff last night, but are really suspect at the back. Robinho and SWP are the threats to look for, we really need to focus on our left wing for their attacks; Bale and Ekotto again I'll wager.

If King starts then Robinho will struggle for space, but he's so good that if he's in the mood he can destroy us for fun. Also, they have quite a lot of indiviuals, and while they tried alot of nice creative stuff, 90% of the moves ended in a loose pass or a break down in communication, and they surrendered possession very easily.

Modric has to start in the middle, so expect a 4-5-1 again... most likely Bent starting up top, with Modric supporting and JJ / Hudd in the centre. Naturally Bentley will be RW, and Bale LW as already suggested. Expect Hutton, Woody, King and... actually Corluka at LB?

[Lilywhite Lad]

They are gonna be hyped up at home having lost their last game to Bolton! :scared: They'll provide a stern test for our lads, but with us brimming with confidence and pride again, it'll be an entertaining feat to watch. I say 2-2, Robinho and Wright-Phillips, who'll absolutely destroy the right wing, especially if BAE is playing, will score for them, and the goals from us will come from Bent and Pavy. :thumbup1:

[olly27]

If King plays then bring em on. They can easily be got at despite their strengths going forward - they remind me of us in many ways - when King aint playing and we had Berba and Keane in the side.

I am going for a 1-1. Ireland for them and Modric for us. To be honest I would be happy with a point...keeps Harry's unbeaten record going...:001_smile:

[wayne wonder]

As long as this c*nt doesnt do this against us we'll be fine

http://www.offthepost.info/2008/11/football-video-robinhos-goal-against-fc-twente/

[olly27]

As long as this c*nt doesnt do this against us we'll be fine

http://www.offthepost.info/2008/11/football-video-robinhos-goal-against-fc-twente/

God that was a bloody good finish....I still think with the way we are playing I see us getting at least a draw, even if we go behind at least we know the players arnt going to give up now...:001_smile:

[olly27]

Have a read at what some of the City fans are thinking about sunday, some real dimwits like, ;

http://www.rivals.net/forum/pgePosts.aspx?threadId=284019&boardId=103&clubId=49

[wayne wonder]

God that was a bloody good finish....I still think with the way we are playing I see us getting at least a draw, even if we go behind at least we know the players arnt going to give up now...:001_smile:

Yep he's got that in his locker just hope we dont stand off him and swp as they'll run right but they cant defend for sh*t so we could hit them on the break

[olly27]

http://www.rivals.net/forum/pgePosts.aspx?threadId=284019&boardId=103&clubId=49

[wayne wonder]

LOL those stupid stupid man fans get a bit of mney and think they're man utd bunch of c*nts!!

[inthewoods]

This is a tough one to call, dont we have a good record against Citeh? Im going for a score draw here, possibly 1-1. Bent to get the goal. Keep Robinho at bay and we might just sneak it.

[berbzy 'G']

LOL those stupid stupid man fans get a bit of mney and think they're man utd bunch of c*nts!!

I've got a hate spot for Man City. Along with Arsenal, West Ham and Newcastle.

[LifeTimeYido]

What a bunch of deluded fcuks.

They havent even won anything of note in the last...... what 25 years ??

[MiloMinderbinder]

We're scoring, they're scoring. We've got a half decent defence if King is fit (unless BAE has one of his "moments") but the dodgiest keeper on these shores since Bruce the Zimbabwean was on the take (I am still dubious about Rocket Ronnies hattrick at the Dell of those years ago). They've got such illustrious defenders as Garrido and Ben Haim.

I think goals are in the offing for both sides. Can we keep up our "goal of the season contender in every game" record? So goals, lots of them, end to end, crap defending, Robinho to make himself dizzy by stepping over the ball so many times he falls over.

You just know it's going to be 0-0 now :001_huh:

[peterc]

Yes both teams seem to be scoring but we've got the Arry magic, COYS, we will win 2-1. Arry's Blue and White Army.

[corkspur]

tough game here,would settle for a draw.

[GQCoolest]

I see 2-2. For us: Modric and Pav. For them Robinho and Richards.

[TURKISH]

I don't think there as good as they think they are. There dodgy at the back just like us and try and fit all there attacking players on the field at once. Kompany is key for them and his missing. Robinho and swp are quality players so we need to be careful.

Our fullbacks have been shite this season, they have two good wing men, they have a soft midfield i can see a 2.2.

Bent and mod to score for us. Swp and robinho for them. Or that ireland geezer.

[BalkanHool]

cut of the supply to robinho, tight mark "the geezer" ireland, and the match is won... i'll say 2:0 bent & bentley

[Jenas8]

Yea, Tottenham should be able to get this one.. Man. City defense is absolute rubbish right now.. the confidence is up, and we need 2 keep dat going for as long as possible... I say 2-1 tottenham, i dont c us keeping a clean sheet bcuz of our defense as well, but i believe bent and bentley will score for us.....

[Indianspur]

id settle for a score draw....as we dont want a boring 0-0 and we want harry to continue his unbeaten run!

[heartofspurs]

i want to say a win, but a draw looks the outcome most likely. In fairness though another point is better than I would have hoped ten days ago. If we play a solid game it could easily be a 0-2 to us, but they are good going forward. Their defense isn't great so it's up to our boys to bring us off the bottom. Crazy to Think Bolton are ninth tonight after being down with us a week ago. We can keep this going and just need to hit the net when the chances come....Bent is finally starting to show the prem what he is about, I hope he gets another one tomorrow.

[deadleyledley]

i am going for a spurs victory.
2-1
bent (2)

[berbzy 'G']

All of our players have been performing well. Jenas is fit since that Arsenal game from when he had a toe injury and scored one of the goals of the season, But Huddlestone had a brilliant game against Zagreb. So who do you play? Bent and Pavlyuchenko are confident and both on target, which one of them would you play? I would still defantely still play the 4-5-1 formation.

[rootman69]

I was going to go to the bar and watch this, but i can't find it on sky or shitanta. Is this right or am i just blind?

[peterc]

I was going to go to the bar and watch this, but i can't find it on sky or shitanta. Is this right or am i just blind?

Not being screened on telly, try this link, might work ,http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun9.11/ManCity_Tottenham.html

[English Premier League]Manchester City - Tottenham Hotspur 15:00 GMT

[gomessi]

Gomes, Corluka, Woodgate, King, Assou-Ekotto, Bentley, Huddlestone, Zokora, Jenas, Modric, Bent.

Subs: Cesar, Hutton, Lennon, Pavlyuchenko, Campbell, Dawson, O'Hara.

So it is

gomes

corluka woodgate king BAE

Bentley Hudd Zok JJ

Modric

Bent

JJ, Zok, and Hudd in midfield means we will lose it in midfield:sad:

Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Dunne, Garrido, Wright-Phillips, Ireland, Fernandes, Vassell, Robinho, Mwaruwari.

Subs: Schmeichel, Onuoha, Elano, Jo, Hamann, Evans, Ben-Haim.

[GQCoolest]

Did Bale pick up a knock?

[gomessi]

Does anyone have a stream I can watch it on.

[inthewoods]

Anyone have a decent stream? Mines all jumpy.

[LifeTimeYido]

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/328947

English speaking as well.

[rootman69]

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun9.11/ManCity_Tottenham.html this is running dead on

[MarlowSpurs]

Come on lets hammer these manc's...COYS

[peterc]

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/328947

[Spur]

Another example of Zokora getting up the pitch and having no clue what to do.

[LifeTimeYido]

FCUKIN FCUK FCUK :angry: :angry:

[inthewoods]

Why the **** do we insist on playing BAE. Hes absolutely, ****ing useless. FCUK!!

[MarlowSpurs]

****s, ****, shit, bollocks

[rootman69]

what the f uck zokora, just what the f uck are you doing??

[inthewoods]

I dont know who's worse, Zokora or BAE. Everytime zokora gets the ball, he hasnt a clue what to do with it.

[Spur]

Bentley is having a mare against the worst left back ever created.

[LifeTimeYido]

Bentley is having a mare against the worst left back ever created.

BAE plays for us though.

[gomessi]

Why are we playing badly?

[MarlowSpurs]

Trouble with Zokora is he gets a nose bleed every time he goes that far up the pitch

[inthewoods]

BAE plays for us though.

So true. Hes getting caught out EVERYTIME.

[rootman69]

See ye later son...

[gomessi]

fernandes is sent off!!!!!!

come on harr now lets change the ****ing formation!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:cursing: get BAE off now

listening to 5 live.

[LifeTimeYido]

Hardy har har......

NOW FCUKING CMON SPURS !!!!

[inthewoods]

Oh. This could be interesting.

[Spur]

We must win now.

[GQCoolest]

Get In There Dazza

[SCIFIN17YID]

w0000000t bent !

[inthewoods]

**** ya modric, howd you miss that.

[Spur]

I love Joe Hart. He's ****in' blinding.

[LifeTimeYido]

BEEEEEENT !!!!

Get In !!

[rootman69]

F ucking well taken Bent.

[gazzaG8]

Get in!!! We'll turn them over now!

[inthewoods]

I think its time i admitted i was wrong about bent. I doubted him at the start of the season but hes happily proven me wrong. Get in there my son!!

[inthewoods]

How many of our players are the shity fans going to boo? they're gonna give themselves a light head.

[MarlowSpurs]

fvck it, I go out for a cig and miss a sending off and a goal...bollocks

[MarlowSpurs]

If we win by 2 goals or more, by my calculations we should jump to 15th. But only until the fulham - newcastle game fvck it...

[MarlowSpurs]

should have hit the target there bentley boy

[Apples]

Benty is da man

[Spur]

That was a cracking ball from Zokora. Shame Benty was offside.

[rootman69]

If we win by 2 goals or more, by my calculations we should jump to 15th. But only until the fulham - newcastle game fvck it...

I can safely say on that note, come on the Fulham!!

[peterc]

Don't know what you guys think, but I can see three ponts coming up. COYS.

[GQCoolest]

If we win by 2 goals or more, by my calculations we should jump to 15th. But only until the fulham - newcastle game fvck it...

Hell, I'll be happy to get the win, that means we're likely in 16th and only 2 points out of the top half. :w00t: We'd pass Sunderland and West Brom for sure, and at least be on level pegging with Wigan. If Fulham wins, then we move past the Geordies. If the Geordies win, then we move past Fulham. If they draw, then unless we win by 3 goals, we're still behind on goal difference. Best we can be now is 16th, worst is a tie for 17th.

[Shelfside]

I think its time i admitted i was wrong about bent. I doubted him at the start of the season but hes happily proven me wrong. Get in there my son!!

Quite right.I wish I could say the same about BAE and Zokora.I don't think it would be jumping the gun to say that they are going to be forever shite.So far though Modric has shown some great touches and FFS lets put pressure on Dunne,he's defending like a mentalist.

[choda]

I think we will surely win this lads, started well, they scored against the run of play, I believe when shithead (Jenas) gave the ball away, one of many times.

But has anyone ever seen Zokora play this well? He has been excellent. Tom, Bentley, Bent and Modric are doing well and will win this game for us.

Strange that Bale isn't playing.

[LifeTimeYido]

I think we will surely win this lads, started well, they scored against the run of play, I believe when shithead (Jenas) gave the ball away, one of many times.

But has anyone ever seen Zokora play this well? He has been excellent. Tom, Bentley, Bent and Modric are doing well and will win this game for us.

Strange that Bale isn't playing.

Sorry i dont agree, whist it is one of his better games, he is still giving the ball away, and a bit clueless, and his forward runs result in him being out of position too many times.

[GQCoolest]

Zokora off NOW before he can get a 2nd yellow.

[LifeTimeYido]

Zokora off NOW before he can get a 2nd yellow.

BAE was booked.

[inthewoods]

HUddlestone has been brilliant today. I dont think hes given the ball away once. Really impressive.

[Spur]

Zokora is having a blinder!

I never thought I'd say those words!

[GQCoolest]

GET IN THERE DAZZA!!!! Great Strike!

[SCIFIN17YID]

BENT IS BACK w0000000000t !

[LifeTimeYido]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZA !!!!!!

What a player he is turning out out be for us.

[Spur]

Bent is on fire!

Jenas done really well there too.

[SCIFIN17YID]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZA !!!!!!

What a player he is turning out out be for us.

His confidence is back, please more goals :)

[RuFuS]

and i was about to ask why, when they've only got 10 men we're still playing with one up front.

[inthewoods]

What a ball by the hudd! Great finish by dazza! Get in there!!

[yido4life]

get in !!!!!!

[gazzaG8]

Loving our new number 4, who is he & whats he done with Zokora?!

[inthewoods]

Good shift from modric. Did really well today.

[rootman69]

f ucking love it. Berba who??

[LifeTimeYido]

Good shift from modric. Did really well today.

Yeah, i think Arry has fcuked up though, less creativity now, we could see the ball less as well, they will push on more now.

[rootman69]

Here we go again, f ucking scared we're infront. FFS put this to bed you ******s.

[RuFuS]

why are we on the back foot ?

[Spur]

Gomes not put a foot wrong today...yet!

[inthewoods]

Shite, we're under major pressure now. Eek!

[GQCoolest]

Top drawer save from Gomes. At the moment, we look like the side with 10. Stuff this one away.

[rootman69]

See ya laters dunne

[gomessi]

9 men we better win this one!!!!!!!!!!!

[GQCoolest]

Dunne professional foul and off. He made the mistake that set Dazza free as well. That should put it to bed. 11 v. 9

[RuFuS]

9 men :scared: surely we can't fvck this up:glare:

[gomessi]

9 men :scared: surely we can't fvck this up:glare:


dont say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:angry: :thumbdown:

[Spur]

I sort of missed that - was that a straight red? Was it the right decision?

[inthewoods]

Theres no such thing as 'surely' when you're a spurs supporter.

[rootman69]

So just what the f uck are we playing at??

[LifeTimeYido]

5...4...3...2...1

Boooom !!!

[RuFuS]

Bae =dickhead

[inthewoods]

For christs sake.

[gomessi]

BAE you thick ********:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

[gomessi]

I am getting a ****ing heart attack!

[gomessi]

WE WON:001_smile: :001_smile: :001_smile: :001_smile:

[rootman69]

So just what the f uck are we playing at??

Yes he is. That last 15 kinda took the shine off the win.

[highlander]

what a ****ing relief

[LifeTimeYido]

And Arry's army keeps marching ON ON ON !!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

[inthewoods]

YES! A very good 3 points, no matter how lucky we were!

[GQCoolest]

Phew, thank **** we got to the end there. The Lennon for Modric substitution was not quite the best one Harry's ever made.

[wayne wonder]

i'll take that thank u very much!! we dont half make it hard for ourselves eh?

BAE is a liabilty alongside zokoro even if u put them together u wouldn't get a goot footballer

[rootman69]

goddamn it focked that post up

[peterc]

And the Spurs go marching on, Arry's Blue and White Army. And 2-1 it was. COYS . :thumbup1: :thumbup1:

[Spur]

Some good performances out there today.

[mjbmedia]

Berba who? Robbie what? **** off and thanks for the £50 m

Darren Bent :drool:

top 6 by Xmas

[gomessi]

Some good performances out there today.

who played well?

[choda]

Some good performances out there today.

Including Gomes at the forefront after all the criticism, most of it absurd by the way. We would not have won this game or pool without his class saves. Completely different class to Robbo, just needed to settle down a bit, get back to how he was playing and work on the things he needs to improve, but I think very highly of him and think he could be really very good for us. He was noticably much calmer today, adjusting to the English game and making better decisions on when to come and when to stay back.

He will be worth many points per year compared to lesser keepers and certainly the worst keeper in the league, fat Robbo, who is still doing the delayed reaction late dives, nervously staying back all the time and so on. He's utterly useless, painfully crap.

Gomes on the other hand makes save after save, has great presence and isn't afraid. He has all the ability, just needed to adjust, get over his injury, make better decisions and so on.

I believe the injury was the main reason for the problems with high balls, that and adapting. He was fine before the injury. He was excellent today, excellent.

[peterc]

who played well?


I thought most did, Ekotto had a bad game, but overall a good performance.

[gomessi]

Including Gomes at the forefront after all the criticism, most of it absurd by the way. We would not have won this game or pool without his class saves. Completely different class to Robbo, just needed to settle down a bit, get back to how he was playing and work on the things he needs to improve, but I think very highly of him and think he could be really very good for us. He was noticably much calmer today, adjusting to the English game and making better decisions on when to come and when to stay back.

He will be worth many points per year compared to lesser keepers and certainly the worst keeper in the league, fat Robbo, who is still doing the delayed reaction late dives, nervously staying back all the time and so on. He's utterly useless, painfully crap.

Gomes on the other hand makes save after save, has great presence and isn't afraid. He has all the ability, just needed to adjust, get over his injury, make better decisions and so on.

I believe the injury was the main reason for the problems with high balls, that and adapting. He was fine before the injury. He was excellent today, excellent.


well said choda form is temporarry and class is permanent. I know an ajax fan who thought he was one of the top 10 keepers in the world.

[Shelfside]

When Redknapp took over,we had four difficult league games in front of us and all I expected from them was a draw against Bolton.But ten points from twelve is fantastic and with Fulham and Blackburn next,the momentum is with us.
I couldn't care less if Zokora had one of his better games today.Nothing will convince me that he will improve.Same with BAE.Jenas and Bentley had an unspectacular though solid match,but Bentley's crossing was mostly poor.Taking off Modric was a mistake that could have cost us,but at the moment the luck is with us.

[mjbmedia]

Including Gomes at the forefront after all the criticism, .
i didnt quote it all but from that we assume that Gomes is your new Spurs fancy man, following the departures of Davids, Keane and Ramos? :scared:
If thats the case, god help him ,your track record isnt that great mate :001_smile:

Seriously tho, yeh i agree, i like him, like the fact he comes out for crosses, they all done good,BAE was the worst, Hudd was a bit leaden at times, Modric showed good and it was wrong to take him off but understandable and correct to bring Lennon on, id have taken Hudd off then and made JJ and Zok stay at home and had Mod,Bent,Len and Bentley controlling the ball away from our goal, but im not moaning at Harry.
Weve got a run of games V bottom half of table so not only can we get three points in them but also leap frog those we play, and we're out of bottom three unless Fulham draw

[corkspur]

great 3 points today,we are well on the way now! might not be a complete write off of a season after all!!!

[wayne wonder]

Ledley's doing the work of 2 men he constantly has to cover Accident & Emergency f*cking liability he is!

Zoko really cant pass i dont understand it!!

[heartofspurs]

It's been an amazing couple of weeks. Yeah, we are riding it a little at the moment but there is a real belief that we can go to places and play. The league is looking amazing at the moment and I'd rather be in spurs' position than some of the other clubs. We could only get better and some have already over achieved. We are also not out of it so just need to plug away and keep on getting the points quickly. The Fulham game is going to be very tight but if we can stay focussed and win then this will have to be one of the best periods of play we've had in years and I say that in context of what was going on until two weeks ago with two points! I'd rather have a good run in the league and be stable than beat Liverpool in the cup and lose next weekend....well; hang on, here's to a good run in the cup! :001_smile:

[TURKISH]

Been sleep all day because of the boxing last night. Great result and can't believe it. Sounds like everyone played well except benoit.

Weyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! Harry redknapp is quality!

[gomessi]

Been sleep all day because of the boxing last night. Great result and can't believe it. Sounds like everyone played well except benoit.

Weyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! Harry redknapp is quality!

has got more points than wenger or fergie this season!

[berbzy 'G']

Darren Bent 5 goals in 2 games. What the f*ck has Redknapp done seriously? :cursing:

[mjbmedia]

Darren Bent 5 goals in 2 games. What the f*ck has Redknapp done seriously? :cursing:
made sure we create more chances, Bent was always gonna score given the opportunities but hes never gonna be able to hold it up alone like Berbs could.

[wayne wonder]

WE OWN MAN SH*TTY!!

Plain and Simple!!

[Spur]

who played well?
Gomes, Charlie (as ever), Zokora had a better than usual game(!), Bent obviously with another couple of cracking finishes, and Huddlestone did well too. Others weren't so great, and others were solid but average or a little above.
Including Gomes at the forefront after all the criticism, most of it absurd by the way. We would not have won this game or pool without his class saves. Completely different class to Robbo, just needed to settle down a bit, get back to how he was playing and work on the things he needs to improve, but I think very highly of him and think he could be really very good for us. He was noticably much calmer today, adjusting to the English game and making better decisions on when to come and when to stay back.

He will be worth many points per year compared to lesser keepers and certainly the worst keeper in the league, fat Robbo, who is still doing the delayed reaction late dives, nervously staying back all the time and so on. He's utterly useless, painfully crap.

Gomes on the other hand makes save after save, has great presence and isn't afraid. He has all the ability, just needed to adjust, get over his injury, make better decisions and so on.

I believe the injury was the main reason for the problems with high balls, that and adapting. He was fine before the injury. He was excellent today, excellent.
The injury which, if he makes a mistake on Wed or next week, will be back again I suspect?

I obviously hope you're right, but from a keepers point of view he was making elementary errors (plural) every few minutes! We know he can save. Although he did choose not too for a couple matches (near postage I'm talking here).

[olly27]

Great win. We look like we have some character about us for a change. Zokora did have a better game for us and we need more of that from him. Modric played some nice stuff and when he scores I think he will really come out of is shell. Bent took his chances expertly and finally looks confident infront of goal, long may that continue..:001_smile:

If we beat Fulham next week, and with two home games to follow, we are right back in the mix to have a decent season.

[wayne wonder]

All i want zokoro to do and it's so so so simple! Is tackle win the ball and pass it to hudds, jenas or modric thats what harry should be drumming into him. 2yrd passes ffs!!!! But he cant do that it seems

Benoit Accident & Emergency is just so lax its unreal but then again so is the golden boy bale hence why he wasn't playing me thinks!!!

[mjbmedia]

no Zokora can play, you see the ball he dropped on a sixpence into Bent or Modric (cant remember which one) but it went over about 5 defenders right to the players feet, died instantly it hit the ground and just sat there waiting to be hit into the net, the keeper saved it i think it was Modric , but whatever, the pass, if it had been played by any of Skys love children, would have been eulogised over for weeks .

[wayne wonder]

no Zokora can play, you see the ball he dropped on a sixpence into Bent or Modric (cant remember which one) but it went over about 5 defenders right to the players feet, died instantly it hit the ground and just sat there waiting to be hit into the net, the keeper saved it i think it was Modric , but whatever, the pass, if it had been played by any of Skys love children, would have been eulogised over for weeks .

But sadly we're not skys lovechild!! The funny thing is when he plays for the ivory coast he's fantastic i just cant understand what the hell is happening!

[mjbmedia]

But sadly we're not skys lovechild!! The funny thing is when he plays for the ivory coast he's fantastic i just cant understand what the hell is happening!
well when he plays for Ivory Coast, is he up against Premier League opponents? ahah

[Spur]

no Zokora can play, you see the ball he dropped on a sixpence into Bent or Modric (cant remember which one) but it went over about 5 defenders right to the players feet, died instantly it hit the ground and just sat there waiting to be hit into the net, the keeper saved it i think it was Modric , but whatever, the pass, if it had been played by any of Skys love children, would have been eulogised over for weeks .

To Bent and it was offside.

Was a cracking ball. Only succesful pass I've ever seen him play n'all!

[MiloMinderbinder]

Having seen the highlights last night I am amazed that some pundits thought that the Man City red cards were harsh. Dunne was a little unlucky but he was the last man and thus had to go. Fernandes deserved a red card for the Modric foul alone (I bet half the ground bought his brilliant piece of skill) and then to lunge at Bentley the way he did, what did he expect a pat on the back and an arm around the shoulder.

BAE should have been sent off anyone, just for being crap.

[wayne wonder]

well when he plays for Ivory Coast, is he up against Premier League opponents? ahah

No i mean he can actually pass to a team mate without f*cking it up

[mjbmedia]

To Bent and it was offside.

Was a cracking ball. Only succesful pass I've ever seen him play n'all!
thanks, i knew youd know who it was and what happened

[choda]

All i want zokoro to do and it's so so so simple! Is tackle win the ball and pass it to hudds, jenas or modric thats what harry should be drumming into him. 2yrd passes ffs!!!! But he cant do that it seems

Benoit Accident & Emergency is just so lax its unreal but then again so is the golden boy bale hence why he wasn't playing me thinks!!!

I was amazed at Zokora in this game. He played like when I first saw him in the WC and he impressed me then. He suddenly could control the ball and pass it cleanly. And much like against Zagreb he was making noticable interceptions, keeping SWP quiet and doing a fine job for the team. He was actually influential, as was Hudd who is developing as a midfielder. He's still a bit centre halfish but my word has that boy got talent and he is looking for the ball off the defenders getting it, passing it, get it back again and so on. And when he sees an incisive pass he can hit it and often put it on a sixpence.

Wohay, finally getting how a midfielder with passing like his can start to influence the game. And that also means that when we press up and get some qualtiy possession he can also get those shooting boots on following up from deep. A big weapon.

Hudd is clearly the best of the central midfielders we play. If Harry can do that with him and Zok, I'd imagine he could work wonders with JoH, whom I rated as the best previous to Harry. He is the only one in the previous regime that had an all round amazing performance (v Arsenal on his debut) and was still trying to always do the right things.

Actually Tainio had three very good games around that time in a different way as an efficient sweeper in front of the back four, but that's another debate as he is never fit.

Jenas as is usually the case is still crap but fricking good in the final third. Is he a striker? Could be, he's good up there, just pathologically shit in the position he is supposed to be playing.

[choda]

Having seen the highlights last night I am amazed that some pundits thought that the Man City red cards were harsh. Dunne was a little unlucky but he was the last man and thus had to go. Fernandes deserved a red card for the Modric foul alone (I bet half the ground bought his brilliant piece of skill) and then to lunge at Bentley the way he did, what did he expect a pat on the back and an arm around the shoulder.

BAE should have been sent off anyone, just for being crap.

What I would say is, if you are on a yellow and you do late highish challenge on a guy that is away and heading dangerously towards goal then you are giving the ref a decision to make. A decision that you can't be fuming about if it goes against you. And Dunne was last man and had the worst game I've ever seen him have, he was awful.

Ekotto needs to be shot. He's the dumbest player we've ever had. I'd prefer to have Edinborough. He's out of position regularly and liable to lose the head and do something stupid on the ball or with a tackle as well. Just an awful player.

[Indianspur]

Just glad ekotto will be suspended and prefer even gunter to play his role!!

[olly27]

I think the only reason Harry keeps playing him is his ability to put in dangerous crosses which he does sometimes, like yesterday...brillant ball but Bent couldn't quite meet it with a full connection. Aside from that he was horrific, his positional sense is the worst I have ever seen in a full back - he is that bad. So am afraid the odd decent cross is nowhere near enough to offset the lack off basic skills required to defend competently. First and foremost a full back should be sound defensively.

[Spur]

I think the only reason Harry keeps playing him is his ability to put in dangerous crosses which he does sometimes, like yesterday...brillant ball but Bent couldn't quite meet it with a full connection. Aside from that he was horrific, his positional sense is the worst I have ever seen in a full back - he is that bad. So am afraid the odd decent cross is nowhere near enough to offset the lack off basic skills required to defend competently. First and foremost a full back should be sound defensively.

Who do we play then?

[Rojoknapp]

I have never understood why so much disgust is directed towards BAE on this forum. I have always thought that he was a fairly average, but capable player. Until yesterday. Oh my god he was absolutely horrendous, it was a horror show. How many times was he about 10 yards further forward than the rest of our defence, or get breezed round as if invisible? What the f*ck was he doing on his arse for their goal? And why the f*ck did he get such an absurd red card, kicking the ball away is the world's dumbest booking, and his second one (when we're trying to withstand some late pressure and we need everyon to be focussing) was a truly pathetic attempt at a tackle. rant over :cursing:

[olly27]

Who do we play then?

Well Bale has question marks defensively, but at least his positioning is better than Benny's and of course when he's in form we all know what he can offer going forward. Jesus even Ohara would be better at the moment at LB. Corluka faired well in the second half against Pool at LB.

[irishspur]

BAE is one Fvcked up individual he actually has no interest in the game only sees it as a job hence the dopey expressionless look on his face when he plays. He could be so good hes dynamic going forward can deliver a super ball but gives the ball away like its going out of fashion and is totally incapable of picking up wingers was at fault for kuyts goal against pool. He basically couldnt give a rats ar$e whether we win or lose so i hope he goes back to france and gunter and bale fight it out for lb. Surely bale will come good when hes back to full fitness a few months ago he was our best player!

[choda]

Who do we play then?

Bale, Gilbert, O'Hara, Gunter, Corluka... anyone who has shown anything at left back really.

Bale is young and has made a few mistakes, but he is arguably the best potential in world football, give him experience and he will develop or else move him into midfield.

Gilbert is a 42 caps for Brazil man, fan's favourite in Berlin. Obviously a fine player that hasn't really gotten a chance. May have had adapting issues, but I don't know why he gets ignored for a tramp like Ekotto.

O'Hara, not his ideal position, or is it? Two of Jamie's best games were United away and for the under 21's v Wales and both were at left back. A versatile player in a different league to accident and emergency.

Gunter is solid player, right footed but won't let you down. Same with Corluka, in fact Corluka is likely to have a blinder. One of the most naturally gifted defensive players you will ever see.

Ekotto doesn't even have passion for football. How the hell are you going to develop if you don't watch games, think about the game and have a passion for being a top player?

Looks like a man that goes to training, does it for the money, doesn't give a shit, hasn't learned anything past age 15, doesn't care enough to properly review performance and does it all in a daze waiting to get back to the playstation.

He's a tramp, I said it from day one.

[wayne wonder]

I was amazed at Zokora in this game. He played like when I first saw him in the WC and he impressed me then. He suddenly could control the ball and pass it cleanly. And much like against Zagreb he was making noticable interceptions, keeping SWP quiet and doing a fine job for the team. He was actually influential, as was Hudd who is developing as a midfielder. He's still a bit centre halfish but my word has that boy got talent and he is looking for the ball off the defenders getting it, passing it, get it back again and so on. And when he sees an incisive pass he can hit it and often put it on a sixpence.

Wohay, finally getting how a midfielder with passing like his can start to influence the game. And that also means that when we press up and get some qualtiy possession he can also get those shooting boots on following up from deep. A big weapon.

Hudd is clearly the best of the central midfielders we play. If Harry can do that with him and Zok, I'd imagine he could work wonders with JoH, whom I rated as the best previous to Harry. He is the only one in the previous regime that had an all round amazing performance (v Arsenal on his debut) and was still trying to always do the right things.

Actually Tainio had three very good games around that time in a different way as an efficient sweeper in front of the back four, but that's another debate as he is never fit.

Jenas as is usually the case is still crap but fricking good in the final third. Is he a striker? Could be, he's good up there, just pathologically shit in the position he is supposed to be playing.

I still dont think hudds is as good as you think he is mate he just looks good in our midfield considering who we have. He constantly got raped against arsenal, didnt do much against liverpool no doubt will egt killed when man utd come to town.

Im sick of the enigma that is JJ i think he should deffo be playing off bent further up the pitch as shown by his hold up play for dazzla's goal.

[Spur]

Bale is young and has made a few mistakes, but he is arguably the best potential in world football, give him experience and he will develop or else move him into midfield.
I can tell you now that Bale has looked just as bad as BAE at left back this season. He has performed poorly so far. He only looks threatening in fits and spurts and that's at left wing. Far too much praise going his way this season. He still hasn't proven anything.

The rest I don't mind about. Except JoH. And Charlie.

[gomessi]

Bale, Gilbert, O'Hara, Gunter, Corluka... anyone who has shown anything at left back really.

Bale is young and has made a few mistakes, but he is arguably the best potential in world football, give him experience and he will develop or else move him into midfield.

Gilbert is a 42 caps for Brazil man, fan's favourite in Berlin. Obviously a fine player that hasn't really gotten a chance. May have had adapting issues, but I don't know why he gets ignored for a tramp like Ekotto.

O'Hara, not his ideal position, or is it? Two of Jamie's best games were United away and for the under 21's v Wales and both were at left back. A versatile player in a different league to accident and emergency.

Gunter is solid player, right footed but won't let you down. Same with Corluka, in fact Corluka is likely to have a blinder. One of the most naturally gifted defensive players you will ever see.

Ekotto doesn't even have passion for football. How the hell are you going to develop if you don't watch games, think about the game and have a passion for being a top player?

Looks like a man that goes to training, does it for the money, doesn't give a shit, hasn't learned anything past age 15, doesn't care enough to properly review performance and does it all in a daze waiting to get back to the playstation.

He's a tramp, I said it from day one.

Are you serious choda. I also think he is a ****ing shit player but why would he not watch FOOTBALL MATCHES!:cursing:

Please tell me you are joking

[choda]

Are you serious choda. I also think he is a ****ing shit player but why would he not watch FOOTBALL MATCHES!:cursing:

Please tell me you are joking

I wish I was, while we are all obsessed with the beautiful game and it's importance (metaphorical or not) all he wants to do is collect his cheques and play the playstation. I read an article on how he if he wasn't a professional he wouldn't know anything about football as he has no interest, never watches it.

I've little more than contempt for him, at least JJ wants to be a player. Ekotto is JJ minus any soul or ambition.

[spursmadnick06]

Ekotto is a utterly uninspiring individual, no emotion or passion whatsoever. The same expression will meet his face whether we win or lose.

[choda]

I still dont think hudds is as good as you think he is mate he just looks good in our midfield considering who we have. He constantly got raped against arsenal, didnt do much against liverpool no doubt will egt killed when man utd come to town.

Im sick of the enigma that is JJ i think he should deffo be playing off bent further up the pitch as shown by his hold up play for dazzla's goal.

I don't really disagree mate, still has a long way to go to convince me is a long term answer, hence the still centre halfish comment. BUT, you gotta hand it to him he's turning a lot of heads and if he continues to improve we will have a player on our hands.

I'm not holding my breath, but he's bloody good at times and he's starting to do a lot right. He's more adequate than JJ and Zok, that's all I'm saying. The lad's ability can destroy teams that give him some room and ball to operate with.

[gomessi]

I don't really disagree mate, still has a long way to go to convince me is a long term answer, hence the still centre halfish comment. BUT, you gotta hand it to him he's turning a lot of heads and if he continues to improve we will have a player on our hands.

I'm not holding my breath, but he's bloody good at times and he's starting to do a lot right. He's more adequate than JJ and Zok, that's all I'm saying. The lad's ability can destroy teams that give him some room and ball to operate with.

Choda what do you think about corluka as a dm.

Here is what Col-MCFC has to say

Most definitely mate. He played as a DM over the Christmas period for us last season while Didi was suspended, and I reckon those were his best games for us. I think he played in that position against Newcastle, Liverpool and Everton and only conceded 1 goal, which says it all really. Even though he's a great right back, he has ALL the attributes to be a top class Defensive Midfielder in my opinion.

[singapore spur]

I still dont think hudds is as good as you think he is mate he just looks good in our midfield considering who we have. He constantly got raped against arsenal, didnt do much against liverpool no doubt will egt killed when man utd come to town.

Im sick of the enigma that is JJ i think he should deffo be playing off bent further up the pitch as shown by his hold up play for dazzla's goal.

im a big fan of hudd , love watching him on the ball but i dont think anyone is saying that he is anyway near the finished article , just that his potential is huge , he has to work on his mobility , work rate and concentration but dare i say it i think he has the vision , technique and passing range of hoddle in his prime .

[olly27]

I always thought the Hudd was our best midfielder in terms of talent.

Yes he isn't great defensively and isn't quick, but without doubt the best distributer of a football we have. If others areas of his game can be improved then we might have a realy player on our hands. I fully expect Huddlestone to go from strength to strength under the guise of Redknapp, Sherwood et al.

If he wants it he could have a massive future ahead of him including being an England regular. A bold statement but I think he's got the ability if he and can work on the other requisite skills.

[olly27]

im a big fan of hudd , love watching him on the ball but i dont think anyone is saying that he is anyway near the finished article , just that his potential is huge , he has to work on his mobility , work rate and concentration but dare i say it i think he has the vision , technique and passing range of hoddle in his prime .

Totally agree...see my other post mate - below yours...:001_smile:

[gomessi]

I always thought the Hudd was our best midfielder in terms of talent.

Yes he isn't great defensively and isn't quick, but without doubt the best distributer of a football we have. If others areas of his game can be improved then we might have a realy player on our hands. I fully expect Huddlestone to go from strength to strength under the guise of Redknapp, Sherwood et al.

If he wants it he could have a massive future ahead of him including being an England regular. A bold statement but I think he's got the ability if he and can work on the other requisite skills.

The best passer of a football we have is corluka and modric.

Also if he isnt good defensivly he is a liabilty. Being good defensivly is the most important criteria to play dm.

[olly27]

The best passer of a football we have is corluka and modric.

Also if he isnt good defensivly he is a liabilty. Being good defensivly is the most important criteria to play dm.

Dont agree, sorry...:001_smile: The Hudd's vision combined with his passing, short and long makes him the best distributor for me.

Modric too of course, but in a different style to the Hudd, obviously playing in the hole., using his vision and has excellent ability to the link the play.

[gomessi]

Dont agree, sorry...:001_smile: The Hudd's vision combined with his passing, short and long makes him the best distributor for me.

Modric too of course, but in a different style to the Hudd, obviously playing in the hole., using his vision and has excellent ability to the link the play.

I would love to find a statistic on corluka v hudd in terms of passing.

Sometimes I find it incredible how cool mod and corluka are in possession of a football.

By the way you even said hudd is a million miles off being as good as a pool or arse central midfielder so how can he be as good as modric who was linked with barca, arsenal, juve in his career. I have only seen hudd linked with blackburn.

Modric and Corluka are world class, hudd is just a player with potential.

[choda]

Choda what do you think about corluka as a dm.

Here is what Col-MCFC has to say

Most definitely mate. He played as a DM over the Christmas period for us last season while Didi was suspended, and I reckon those were his best games for us. I think he played in that position against Newcastle, Liverpool and Everton and only conceded 1 goal, which says it all really. Even though he's a great right back, he has ALL the attributes to be a top class Defensive Midfielder in my opinion.

One of the first names on my teamsheet would be Corluka as the dm, sorry Hudd fans, I know he is improving and I like him but ever since portsmouth I feel the influence he showed like a midfielder from right back was incredible and that it is crying out to play him in midfield.

He's a wonderful footballer, it wouldn't surprise me if you could play him anywhere. He is EXTREMELY talented. Hudd is talented in ways but at sea in others, still. Hope that can change but that the way it is.

All I said was he is better than Zok and JJ.

[gomessi]

One of the first names on my teamsheet would be Corluka as the dm, sorry Hudd fans, I know he is improving and I like him but ever since portsmouth I feel the influence he showed like a midfielder from right back was incredible and that it is crying out to play him in midfield.

He's a wonderful footballer, it wouldn't surprise me if you could play him anywhere. He is EXTREMELY talented. Hudd is talented in ways but at sea in others, still. Hope that can change but that the way it is.

All I said was he is better than Zok and JJ.

Finally someone agrees with me. I cant believe fans sont recognise how composed corluka is when the ball is at his feet. Possibly more composed than any defender in world football.

I would love to see this team betweeen January-May

Bent/Pav

Arshavin

Zhirkov Modric Corluka Bentley

Bale King Wood Hutton
Gomes

[olly27]

I would love to find a statistic on corluka v hudd in terms of passing.

Sometimes I find it incredible how cool mod and corluka are in possession of a football.

By the way you even said hudd is a million miles off being as good as a pool or arse central midfielder so how can he be as good as modric who was linked with barca, arsenal, juve in his career. I have only seen hudd linked with blackburn.

Modric and Corluka are world class, hudd is just a player with potential.

I said that its very difficult to compete with the top 4 and that includes their midfields. I didn't specifically say the Hudd was a million miles off, but in some respects he is though. I am simply saying that his passing and vision is excellent when he is on form, and for me when he's playing well he's the best we have at spraying and spreading the ball about.

Modric and Corluka are excellent in their own rights. Coruka would be great in the DM role for away games in particular I think. Classy player and very strong on the ball, but the Hudd has exceptional ability when he is on top form - we need to see more of that.

I am not comparing these players directly or saying any of them are better than the other, as they all offer a combination of various qualities. What I am saying is when the Hudd is on form - for me he is the best distributor of a football we have not necessarily the best player we have. I mean Modric was class on Sunday and was my man of the match but he provides more than just an ability to pass well. Huddlestone's biggest weapon is his passing, no doubt about that. Think about if he didn't pass well how the hell would be playing in a premiership side anyway?

[olly27]

Finally someone agrees with me. I cant believe fans sont recognise how composed corluka is when the ball is at his feet. Possibly more composed than any defender in world football.

I would love to see this team betweeen January-May

Bent/Pav

Arshavin

Zhirkov Modric Corluka Bentley

Bale King Wood Hutton
Gomes

I certainly would like to see Corluka given a go in the DM role. I think you have misunderstood what I am talking about. I am just saying that when the Hudd is on song he is the best passer we have, that doesn't mean to say that he's a given as he is too inconsistent at the moment - a disease we all know about all to well. Corluka would be a million times better at the defending anyway, all these things are weighed up and thats how a good manager earns his dollars...:001_smile:

I see the Hudd getting better and going from strength to strength under the new regime, thats all I am saying and I think he has a big future if he has the appetite for it.

[choda]

I said that its very difficult to compete with the top 4 and that includes their midfields. I didn't specifically say the Hudd was a million miles off, but in some respects he is though. I am simply saying that his is passing and vision is excellent when he is on form, and for me when he's playing well he's the best we have at spraying and spreading the ball about.

Modric and Corluka are excellent in their own rights. Coruka would be great in the DM role for away games in particular I think. Classy player and very strong on the ball, but the Hudd has exceptional ability when he is on top form - we need to see more of that.

I am not comparing these players directly or saying any of them are better than the other, as they all offer a combination of various qualities. What I am saying is when the Hudd is on form - for me he is the best distributor of a football we have not necessarily the best player we have. I mean Modric was class on Sunday as was my man of the match but he provides more than just an ability to pass well. Huddlestone's biggest weapon is his passing, no doubt about that. Think about if he didn't pass well how the hell would be playing in a premiership side anyway?

But it's still a bit centre halfish, even with the wonderful technique, two feet etc. You are right in one way, but Corluka is a class passer and he has the all round comfort in possession to truly dominate a game and possibly be one of the best around. He's also more mobile and I'd say far better at reading it and intercepting in midfield. I'm guessing, but I feel it's an educated guess, he really is so talented it's frightening.

[olly27]

But it's still a bit centre halfish, even with the wonderful technique, two feet etc. You are right in one way, but Corluka is a class passer and he has the all round comfort in possession to truly dominate a game and possibly be one of the best around. He's also more mobile and I'd say far better at reading it and intercepting in midfield. I'm guessing, but I feel it's an educated guess, he really is so talented it's frightening.

Mate not disagreeing with that at all. The thing is I wasn't debating from a Corluka v Hudd point of view I was simply saying that when the Hudd is on form he has a fantastic passing range, and the best at the club in my opinon. However Corluka would most likely be the better choice overall considering the qualities he has - A more complete option if you like. I love the look of Charlie and he looks awsome but I dont think he would be as good as the Hudd (when playing well) at spotting and executing a glorious pass. But like I said it wasn't one against the other I was debating.

[jrio]

Mate not disagreeing with that at all. The thing is I wasn't debating from a Corluka v Hudd point of view I was simply saying that when the Hudd is on form he has a fantastic passing range, and the best at the club in my opinon. However Corluka would most likely be the better choice overall considering the qualities he has - A more complete option if you like. I love the look of Charlie and he looks awsome but I dont think he's as good as the Hudd (when playing well) at spotting and excuting a glorious pass. But like I said it wasn't one against the other I was debating.
He isn't, and nor can he hit a ball with the power and accuracy at goal of Hudd. But I don't see Hudd as mainly a defensive player, which Corluka is.

[olly27]

He isn't, and nor can he hit a ball with the power and accuracy at goal of Hudd. But I don't see Hudd as mainly a defensive player, which Corluka is.

Yes that is what I was trying to say but didn't say! If the Hudd could run he could effectively eliminate Jenas from the side.

[irishspur]

I still dont think hudds is as good as you think he is mate he just looks good in our midfield considering who we have. He constantly got raped against arsenal, didnt do much against liverpool no doubt will egt killed when man utd come to town.

Im sick of the enigma that is JJ i think he should deffo be playing off bent further up the pitch as shown by his hold up play for dazzla's goal.

EAT YOUR WORDS MATE:sneaky2: