View Full Version : Why are we still playing 4-5-1?
lol
24th October 2008, 06:59 PM
i understand the fact that playing reverse flank gives an advantage for the winger to get a shot off anything...which is an amazing formation to play if we do not have any striker. but hte problem is that even after we play this formation, we still lose..so why arent we trying 4-4-2? everything when 1 of our players get sent off and we are force to revert to 4-4-1, the offense flowed so much better...they say pav and bent couldnt play together..then we cant we make them learn to play with each other? why are we still trying to a formation we cannot win instead of making a gamble that might let us score some goes?
Lilywhite Lad
24th October 2008, 07:34 PM
I totally agree with you. As soon as the formation is announced before the game that it is 4-5-1, you can kind of guess the outcome of the game. We have 3 strikers on our bench right now, Bent who can score goals given the chance, Pavlyuchenko who needs to be given a bit of a chance, and Campbell who shows so much promise and potential when he plays. The 4-5-1 really is the death to our game right now and it needs to be sorted and scrapped, as it is the glue that keeps us to the bottom of the table imo. It really is pointless playing one up-front if there is no way of getting the ball to them and keeping it up there, another striker needs to be working alongside(Campbell by Bent) to add firepower and strength, as our midfield is very lightweight at the moment.
B10
24th October 2008, 07:40 PM
Because you dont have the balls to play 2 up front...circumcision remember?
gomessi
24th October 2008, 08:27 PM
I totally agree with you. As soon as the formation is announced before the game that it is 4-5-1, you can kind of guess the outcome of the game. We have 3 strikers on our bench right now, Bent who can score goals given the chance, Pavlyuchenko who needs to be given a bit of a chance, and Campbell who shows so much promise and potential when he plays. The 4-5-1 really is the death to our game right now and it needs to be sorted and scrapped, as it is the glue that keeps us to the bottom of the table imo. It really is pointless playing one up-front if there is no way of getting the ball to them and keeping it up there, another striker needs to be working alongside(Campbell by Bent) to add firepower and strength, as our midfield is very lightweight at the moment.
I think we played 442 against wigan it finished 0-0.
Bent and pav played, NO CHANCES WERE CREATED:(
Lilywhite Lad
24th October 2008, 08:35 PM
I think we played 442 against wigan it finished 0-0.
Bent and pav played, NO CHANCES WERE CREATED:(
Got a point out of it though, which is better than none right now. But if we actually played that formation more and more, Bent and Pav should start to play well together, and hopefully, we'll start getting a consistent system going. I mean we've used the 4-5-1 plenty of times now and it is clearly not working, so what other options have we got, other than try and make the 4-4-2 work? :confused:
gomessi
24th October 2008, 08:44 PM
Got a point out of it though, which is better than none right now. But if we actually played that formation more and more, Bent and Pav should start to play well together, and hopefully, we'll start getting a consistent system going. I mean we've used the 4-5-1 plenty of times now and it is clearly not working, so what other options have we got, other than try and make the 4-4-2 work? :confused:
but we didnt score. You want to play 442 so we can score :confused:
Looks like we got the wrong russian OR more likely we wanted to pair pav with arshavin.
I wish I knew the answer. Its a lot more complicated than just picking a formation.
The players need to be CONFIDENT and show their abilty.
I would like to see
Pav Bent
Gio/lennon
modric JOH Bentley/Jenas
BAE corluka ? hutton
gomes
I am not sure if bentley will play due to his stupid actions earlier which resulted in him being dropped.
Lilywhite Lad
24th October 2008, 09:03 PM
but we didnt score. You want to play 442 so we can score :confused:
Looks like we got the wrong russian OR more likely we wanted to pair pav with arshavin.
I wish I knew the answer. Its a lot more complicated than just picking a formation.
The players need to be CONFIDENT and show their abilty.
I would like to see
Pav Bent
Gio/lennon
modric JOH Bentley/Jenas
BAE corluka ? hutton
gomes
I am not sure if bentley will play due to his stupid actions earlier which resulted in him being dropped.
Yes i know that 4-4-2 didn't work for that time around, and i know our problems lie a lot further beyond our team formation, but i'm just saying that it's another option we have that we can try. I mean if it gets worked at, then i think it looks promising, as we've tried and tested 4-5-1 many times and it hasn't worked for us at all well, so what i'm saying is if we see if this works, you never know it might help us a little more, and our players might fit to it a bit better.
rootman69
24th October 2008, 09:24 PM
Personnally i'd go for
11-0-0-0
Hopefully we can draw the remaining games and avoid regulation. Yee haa
This is Spurs get out of jail free card. If any of you see Ramos tattoo it on his f ucking hands so the stupid c unt dosen't forget!!!
hastingsyid
24th October 2008, 09:28 PM
Because you dont have the balls to play 2 up front...circumcision remember?
god i will happilly smash you to a pulp
rootman69
24th October 2008, 09:34 PM
Because you dont have the balls to play 2 up front...circumcision remember?
You'll call me Mr Circumcision after i'm done with ye
jrio
24th October 2008, 09:55 PM
He'll be banned by tomorrow. If everyone who has posted on this thread didn't PM Neil to ban him, perhaps you can explain why you didn't.
Lilywhite Lad
24th October 2008, 09:57 PM
He'll be banned by tomorrow. If everyone who has posted on this thread didn't PM Neil to ban him, perhaps you can explain why you didn't.
Because he only needs one PM to let him know, otherwise his inbox will get filled too quick, and we can't PM anything else then that becomes important.
hastingsyid
24th October 2008, 10:04 PM
He'll be banned by tomorrow. If everyone who has posted on this thread didn't PM Neil to ban him, perhaps you can explain why you didn't.
cause i didnt end off
jrio
24th October 2008, 10:42 PM
Because he only needs one PM to let him know, otherwise his inbox will get filled too quick, and we can't PM anything else then that becomes important.
Like what? I'm really intrigued to know. If no one indulged these teenage keyboard warriors then they'd quickly lose interest. We wouldn't even need Neil to ban them. I guess that may be a too sophisticated approach on my part.
hastingsyid
25th October 2008, 08:59 AM
Why keep sending a pm when in the "site suggestion" forum a banning account was set up by admin to post your concerns
Lilywhite Lad
25th October 2008, 07:51 PM
Like what? I'm really intrigued to know. If no one indulged these teenage keyboard warriors then they'd quickly lose interest. We wouldn't even need Neil to ban them. I guess that may be a too sophisticated approach on my part.
Well, if another member had already sent one PM to Neil, what's the point in keep pestering him with the same request, as like i say, it just fills his inbox. And people may need to PM him for other reasons, like reporting someone, or requesting help, new name etc.
jrio
25th October 2008, 07:59 PM
Why keep sending a pm when in the "site suggestion" forum a banning account was set up by admin to post your concerns
Admittedly, I'd forgotten about that. It still doesn't refute my original point that responding to such petty taunts merely encourages them to respond with moronic rejoinders, and detracts from the forum.
hastingsyid
25th October 2008, 09:11 PM
Admittedly, I'd forgotten about that. It still doesn't refute my original point that responding to such petty taunts merely encourages them to respond with moronic rejoinders, and detracts from the forum.
if they come on here and give it s,h,it to my team then i will respond with my usual wit always have and always will.Then as i always have will post the numpty in the banning thread.If members want to respond to any mug who comes on here causing problems then fair play to them,you dont we do simple really
jrio
25th October 2008, 09:17 PM
Yes, it is simple, really.
hastingsyid
25th October 2008, 09:25 PM
Yes, it is simple, really.
yes it is...........
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