Match Thread: Portsmouth vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[LifeTimeYido]

I will post here as its the official place to do it ;) :p

1-2 Spurs win

Pav and a Bale free kick.

[Mattyboii]

4-2 Spurs :)
big win for us
building on castle win
Start Of A Winning Streak
2 Cambell, Bent Then Bring On Pav Later On He Will Score, then Bentley :)

[jrio]

I expect the same side as midweek, depending on King's fitness. Otherwise Charlie in the centre and Gunter at RB. Same tactics as well. Pompey will be determined to have stemmed their goal leakage, and they don't concede many at home in the league with a full team. This could easily be the nil/nil I predicted on Wednesday, Spurs particularly having an eye on the away leg against Krakow, Pompey concentrating on the clean sheet after recent deluges against them.

[Lilywhite Lad]

Sorry to break any optimism, but i think it'll be 2-1 Pompey. I'm probs wrong though, as every week, i'm always wrong when it comes to Spurs. I just think that with Pompey being at home, our recent record, and Defoe most likely going to be on form, we aren't destined to win this.:(

[Chewy]

There is no better time to play them (they will surely be saying the same about us). Their goal difference in the last 2 games is -10! They have lots of injuries although diarra is expected to be fit :( I predict a score draw for this one. Defoe will score for sure.... damn i miss him :(

I'd go with

Gomes

Gunter/Corluka
King/Corluka
Woodgate
Gilberto

Lennon
Modric
O'Hara
Bale*

Dos Santos

Pavy/Bent

subs: Cesar, Dawson, Jenas, Bentley, Huddlestone, Campbell, Pavy/Bent

*If bale is injured then start bentley on the right and lennon on the left.

[berbzy 'G']

Just because Portsmouth have been stuffed these past few games doesnt mean we are gonna win... Portsmouth will proberbly win, they wont be allowed to lose this game tbh

[GQCoolest]

I'll go for 1-1. Our matches @ Fratton Park don't usually result in many goals. I don't think we'll lose, but I don't see us taking the points either.

[jrio]

Just because Portsmouth have been stuffed these past few games doesnt mean we are gonna win... Portsmouth will proberbly win, they wont be allowed to lose this game tbh
Who won't allow them? The Football God?

You should change that signature, it's pretty lame to say the least and makes you look xenophobic, or a big fan of 70s stand-up.

[berbzy 'G']

Who won't allow them? The Football God?

You should change that signature, it's pretty lame to say the least and makes you look xenophobic, or a big fan of 70s stand-up.

Well we proberbly wont win because we have been playing shit, Portsmouth will be up for this game after those thrashings, and whats my signature gotta do with anything?

[jrio]

Well we proberbly wont win because we have been playing shit, Portsmouth will be up for this game after those thrashings, and whats my signature gotta do with anything?
It makes you look childish. Obviously, you are a child, legally, but on an adult forum you should aspire to more maturity.

[berbzy 'G']

It makes you look childish. Obviously, you are a child, legally, but on an adult forum you should aspire to more maturity.

Give me some ideas on what I can change my signture too then? :confused:

[jrio]

Give me some ideas on what I can change my signture too then? :confused:

It's not really for me to tell you, otherwise you'll look like my puppet. A sound choice would be to find a footballing quote from a Spurs legend, or something historical or philosophical. Failing that, something witty, like a Chris Rock or Woody Allen line.

[Spur]

It's not really for me to tell you, otherwise you'll look like my puppet. A sound choice would be to find a footballing quote from a Spurs legend, or something historical or philosophical. Failing that, something witty, like a Chris Rock or Woody Allen line.

Or a tag-line from the Marvel Universe.

I must admit I had to check it :D

[jrio]

Or a tag-line from the Marvel Universe.

I must admit I had to check it :D

"With great power comes great responsibility".

"None are so blind as those who will not see".

This isn't from the MU, but would show you to be a true 21st century man:

"I was in a land where women were forced to hide their facial features,
Here in the West it's just the same but they're using make-up veils".

You might even get some leg-over action if you remember that one, Bg. ;)

[Spur]

"With great power comes great responsibility".

"None are so blind as those who will not see".

This isn't from the MU, but would show you to be a true 21st century man:

"I was in a land where women were forced to hide their facial features,
Here in the West it's just the same but they're using make-up veils".

You might even get some leg-over action if you remember that one, Bg. ;)

"Whatever knows fear burns at the Man-Thing's touch."

Something along those lines your last one wasn't it ;)

Nothing wrong with a bit of Marvel Universe. Although that one had me scratching my head!

[jrio]

"Whatever knows fear burns at the Man-Thing's touch."

Something along those lines your last one wasn't it ;)

Nothing wrong with a bit of Marvel Universe. Although that one had me scratching my head!
"Whomsoever..." Steve Gerber. You recognised that one, a 70s Marvel horror comic, a blatant copy of DC's Swamp Thing?

BTW, another English language interview with Ramos on SSN as I type, regarding the Pompey game. I can't see it adds anything to knowing about how he thinks to hear him speak in advance of a game in English, nor afterwards for that matter.

[Spur]

"Whomsoever..." Steve Gerber. You recognised that one, a 70s Marvel horror comic, a blatant copy of DC's Swamp Thing?

BTW, another English language interview with Ramos on SSN as I type, regarding the Pompey game. I can't see it adds anything to knowing about how he thinks to hear him speak in advance of a game in English, nor afterwards for that matter.

I did read about it after I had to Google the phrase!

Not sure re Juande, maybe our upturn in form is from him stealing Pavlyuchenko's phrasebook.

He don't shut up though does he? Maybe someone could have a word with him to tone the English interviews down.

[jrio]

I did read about it after I had to Google the phrase!

Not sure re Juande, maybe our upturn in form is from him stealing Pavlyuchenko's phrasebook.

He don't shut up though does he? Maybe someone could have a word with him to tone the English interviews down.

And I trusted you not to cheat!

Sounds very much like Ardiles, doesn't he, with the extended "errrrrr" phrasing between sentences. He still hasn't done a post-match one though, has he? I don't think it adds anything. I see the press are still lapping up Scolari like he's some kind of arena filling stand-up comedian.

Press: What's the difference between you and Wenger

Scolari: He is French, I am Brazilian.

Reminds me of all those fawners who insist that Princess Anne and Prince Charles just rip your sides in two with their one-liners.

[JuicE]

Marvel comics! :rolleyes:

This game will be a goalfest! 5 - 3 without a doubt! To who? i don't know, but that will be the score. Trust me! ;)

[Ioang]

The inevitable has happened and their aging defence is SLOOOW.

Play lennon, GDS and Bale if fit and we'll score goals. Hopefully a lot.

[Shelfside]

If Woodgate plays like he did on wednesday,O'Hara starts and we utilise our pace,then we have a good chance. I'll say 3-1 to Tottenham.

[RuFuS]

Give me some ideas on what I can change my signture too then? :confused:

Something without 'Racial' sterotypeing would be a good start.

[berbzy 'G']

It's not really for me to tell you, otherwise you'll look like my puppet. A sound choice would be to find a footballing quote from a Spurs legend, or something historical or philosophical. Failing that, something witty, like a Chris Rock or Woody Allen line.

Now this is what you call a signature jrio :cool:

[choda]

Marvel comics! :rolleyes:

This game will be a goalfest! 5 - 3 without a doubt! To who? i don't know, but that will be the score. Trust me! ;)

I reckon 1-0 Juice, see my post earlier for my prediction and my reasons for it. ;)

[JuicE]

I reckon 1-0 Juice, see my post earlier for my prediction and my reasons for it. ;)

No way 1 - 0, sorry, but i just can't see the one goal.

How about a wager??????? :eek:

[choda]

No way 1 - 0, sorry, but i just can't see the one goal.

How about a wager??????? :eek:

Okay, under 3.5 goals and I win five euro, over 3.5 goals and you win a five euro. Money paid by paypal. When the match is over the winner gives his email address and money will be paypal'd. Agreed?

I think this may be the first ever bet done on thfctalk. :cool:

[choda]

The inevitable has happened and their aging defence is SLOOOW.

Play lennon, GDS and Bale if fit and we'll score goals. Hopefully a lot.

That's a great point actually and one I forgot about. That defence is old and it has to go sometime. I'm not quite sure the system isn't failing them too though, they are not used to three at the back at all. They are going with it, I would say, not just because they lack wingers and have attacking full backs but also because Sol is getting on and needs cover.

And have you seen how badly James is playing? It may be premature but the guy looks finished. He has gone to pot altogether.

Can't wait to see him playing for England this year. It will be hilario. :p :D

[choda]

And I trusted you not to cheat!

Sounds very much like Ardiles, doesn't he, with the extended "errrrrr" phrasing between sentences. He still hasn't done a post-match one though, has he? I don't think it adds anything. I see the press are still lapping up Scolari like he's some kind of arena filling stand-up comedian.

Press: What's the difference between you and Wenger

Scolari: He is French, I am Brazilian.

Reminds me of all those fawners who insist that Princess Anne and Prince Charles just rip your sides in two with their one-liners.

RALMAO. He's funny though, but he's a bit of an eejit. And someone might tell the big Brazilian farmer that it's pronounced ChelseE not ChelseA.

[gomessi]

Now I know why pav cant speak english. Its not cos hes russian its because he isnt banging the goals in.


Tottenham captain Jermaine Jenas suggesting that Roman Pavlyuchenko was unshackled by his first goal for the club in midweek. 'Five minutes after he scored, I saw a change in him,' said Jenas. 'His confidence has gone through the roof. All of a sudden he has started speaking English and I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. A goal lifts any player and I am sure there will be many more to come.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/28/portsmouth.tottenhamhotspur

lol I can imagine pav giving a full interview on motd after scoring the winner. :cool:

Btw is jenas our captain now I thought he was vc.

[berbzy 'G']

we will lose 2-1

[gomessi]

every game I tip us to win we lose, and I have got every single prediction including our cup results wrong :o

so I'm going for a pompey win 1-0.

[berbzy 'G']

hmmmm I'm going to change my location.

[Spur]

Now I know why pav cant speak english. Its not cos hes russian its because he isnt banging the goals in.


Tottenham captain Jermaine Jenas suggesting that Roman Pavlyuchenko was unshackled by his first goal for the club in midweek. 'Five minutes after he scored, I saw a change in him,' said Jenas. 'His confidence has gone through the roof. All of a sudden he has started speaking English and I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. A goal lifts any player and I am sure there will be many more to come.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/28/portsmouth.tottenhamhotspur

lol I can imagine pav giving a full interview on motd after scoring the winner. :cool:

Btw is jenas our captain now I thought he was vc.
Stupid journalists. Again.

hmmmm I'm going to change my location.
Why?

How 'bout you change your name, Berps?

[Tom]

I'm going to go with a 3-2 win for the yids!

Cmon spurs we can't be bottom of the table. :o

[rootman69]

I'm going 6-0 Spurs.......easy.

[Ioang]

Btw is jenas our captain now I thought he was vc.

Nah they just see the armband and go stupid, Keano got called our captain loads last season (and lets face it he practically was.)

[jrio]

Team: Gomes, Corluka, Assou-Ekotto, Dawson, Woodgate, Bentley, Jenas, O'Hara, Zokora, Gilberto, Pavlyuchenko.

Subs: Huddlestone, Lennon, Bent, Modric, Gunter, Giovani, Cesar

Some unexpected changes there, Gilberto presumably in for an injured Bale. I wouldn't be expecting too much with this side. 1-1.

[GQCoolest]

Wow, Dawson? Gilberto? Nobody with pace to unlock their SLOW defense? Don't like that setup one bit.

[TURKISH]

Team: Gomes, Corluka, Assou-Ekotto, Dawson, Woodgate, Bentley, Jenas, O'Hara, Zokora, Gilberto, Pavlyuchenko.

Subs: Huddlestone, Lennon, Bent, Modric, Gunter, Giovani, Cesar

Some unexpected changes there, Gilberto presumably in for an injured Bale. I wouldn't be expecting too much with this side. 1-1.

God we will lose!:(

[nuttyhotspurs]

well its was obvious ramos wasn't gona stick to the same lineup & formation from the previous game. does he ever? never saw that comin though!

surely we have to play lennon. f*ucks sake. who wants to bet against him being the next one out the door??

[denis-cro]

Zokora´s passing is once again shocking !!!!

[peterc]

Ohara is running around like a headless chicken, great consistency but lacks many other qualitites to be in the first eleven squad.

[denis-cro]

BAE is absolutely terrible defending !!!!!!!

[denis-cro]

Absolutely terrible performance from Spurs.... Ramos doesn´t have a clue what he is doing !!!!!!!!

[GQCoolest]

We don't look like scoring in the least. Horrible lineup. Absolutely shocking and now down 1-0.

[peterc]

Why Jenas? ffs, we are going to get stuffed, our players are all over the place, Ramos answers please..............:mad:

[nuttyhotspurs]

o'hara has been our best player so far. at least he has some fight. its been a great tussle with diarra so far

i think we got rid of the wrong jermaine! crackin pen by jd...never saw that comin

[denis-cro]

If something dramatically wont happen next season we are going to play in the Championship.... this is absolutely shocking !!!!

[matthius23]

I'm at a loss for words at how awful JJ is today.

[GQCoolest]

Jenas with a shocker so far today.

[nuttyhotspurs]

corluka has looked a class act aswell. so confident and comfortable on the ball. exact opposite of jj

[MarlowSpurs]

I'm at a loss for words at how awful JJ is today.

We need Captain Chaos on the pitch!!!!!!!!!!

[GQCoolest]

C'Mon Jamie, have a go there. God Damn someone go for goal. our most incisive play and nothing.

[peterc]

=nuttyhotspurs;105147]o'hara has been our best player so far. at least he has some fight. its been a great tussle with diarra so far.

You must be joking, he is clueless, consistent yes, but nothing else. Different opinions, fair enough.

i think we got rid of the wrong jermaine! crackin pen by jd...never saw that comin


I think we've all been through that before mate, don't you think so?.

[matthius23]

We need Captain Chaos on the pitch!!!!!!!!!! :p Dun dun daaaaaan!

Corluka been top drawer today... Pav been totally starved, needs Gio or Lennon on as Gilberto has been non existent.

[LifeTimeYido]

You must be joking, he is clueless, consistent yes, but nothing else. Different opinions, fair enough.


Well i dont know what match you are watching JOH has been the best player on the pitch for us so far.

[nuttyhotspurs]

duno how ramos can pick a 5 man midfield and leave out both lennon and modric. lol wtf is goin on in his head. i am starting to lose faith in the guy

[peterc]

Well i dont know what match you are watching JOH has been the best player on the pitch for us so far.

If you say so, it's Corluka for me so far.

[GQCoolest]

O'Hara has certainly NOT been our best player. Gave up the FK that lead to the pen. Gave up a clear shooting chance from 12 yards to slide a garbage ball to Pav which got intercepted. Yeah, he tried hard, but quality has not been there.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Well i dont know what match you are watching JOH has been the best player on the pitch for us so far.

i thought so too. some ppl watch a game of football in a different way so see it differently. if someone aint spreading beautiful passes about and shooting from 25 yards then hes playing shite and clueless. diarra is a class act and has barely been in the game so far because of how o'hara has played.

[Neil_Vaughan]

Bring Modric on for Jenas, Bent on for Gilberto

[peterc]

O'Hara has certainly NOT been our best player. Gave up the FK that lead to the pen. Gave up a clear shooting chance from 12 yards to slide a garbage ball to Pav which got intercepted. Yeah, he tried hard, but quality has not been there.

My exact thoughts, and tends to get booked for un necessary fouls.

[jrio]

JOH for me too. He's covered a lot of ground, passed the ball well and matched up well to Diarra. The major blot was not having a crack when he had that chance in the area. Once again Pav's left adrift up front. We shouldn't really be playing a 3 man midfield against Pompey. Their midfield isn't that strong, it's quite defensive and lacks a slick passing ability. On the left Gilberto's been completely anonymous and BAE has struggled quite a bit, in trying to play the ball to him and handling Little.

[denis-cro]

Absolutely shocking performance from Spurs... Gilberto and BAE are suicidal combination on the left side.... Lack pace, lack creativity... both should be released from the club in January... Expecting GDS and Lennon to enter second half for Jenas and Gilberto...

[nuttyhotspurs]

My exact thoughts, and tends to get booked for un necessary fouls.


put it this way. if we had 5 o'haras in our midfield we wouldnt be 1 down

[olly27]

When I saw that line up I was left feeling extremely perplexed. I just cant understand Ramos's logic here at all. Surely we had to play with pace for this one, surely. GDS,Lennon and Bent needed to play for me. Has Bale picked up an injury or something?

I have to say though Corluka has been our best player....looks very good and comfortbale on the ball. Get GDS and Lennon on ASAP....taking off Bentley and Gilberto.

[nuttyhotspurs]

taking off Bentley and Gilberto.

would you not prefer to take off jenas rather than bentley? he needs the ball more and has more ability than jj

[GQCoolest]

And the sad thing is, as bad as we've been, it's not like Pompey have been any better. They just got lucky that Jenas is a moron. Should be scoreless.

Oh, and What the **** with Campbell not even on the bench for the match? Why?

[olly27]

Peter how can you say that about Ohara?....definitely our best midfielder.

[olly27]

would you not prefer to take off jenas rather than bentley? he needs the ball more and has more ability than jj

I would mate, but cant see that happening.

[denis-cro]

Oh, and What the **** with Campbell not even on the bench for the match? Why?

Because Ramos doesn´t know what he is doing at the moment... He is completely lost :(

[peterc]

put it this way. if we had 5 o'haras in our midfield we wouldnt be 1 down
LOL, most probably we would be three down.:D

[jrio]

Peter how can you say that about Ohara?....definitely our best midfielder.
Probably because he saw him dive in for the free-kick on Little, which he did because he'd previously got caught trying to clear the ball in the penalty area, and was trying to retrieve the situation.

[LifeTimeYido]

I cant understand why Ramos persists in playing BAE, jesus im gonna dig my nan up and get her to play there.

He is woefull, and im being nice.

[olly27]

Ramos will make changes...I just hope he does them now instead of waiting until 60/65 mins. Be proactive Ramos...

[olly27]

Lennon coming on for....

[peterc]

Peter how can you say that about Ohara?....definitely our best midfielder.

An opinion I have about him, I have never really rated that player, very consistent but lacks quality.

[LifeTimeYido]

If Ramos is going to play 3 in the centre in midfield he needs to add the creativity of GDS and/or modric - dump Jenas and/or Zokora - leave JOH to play in front of the back four with short passes to the attacking midfielders.

I would even play GDS just in behind Pav.

[olly27]

for Gilberto...God why did Ramos even start him...

[jrio]

Lennon for Gilberto. Very predictable.

[GQCoolest]

Well, at least we look bright to start.

[olly27]

Ramos actually does have to be brave here, Pompey are there for the taking.

[LifeTimeYido]

Ramos actually does have to be brave here, Pompey are there for the taking.

I agree, they look very ordinary atm

[GQCoolest]

To be fair to Dawson, he's looked rather decent today.

[GQCoolest]

Clear Pen! Come On Ref!

[peterc]

Definitely penalty, bloody ref.:mad:

[denis-cro]

Absolutely shocking decisions from referee it was a ****ing penalty... and this is second time after Wigan´s game...

[nuttyhotspurs]

An opinion I have about him, I have never really rated that player, very consistent but lacks quality.

consistenly good? or bad? what quality does he lack? what do you think his job is for spurs?

[nuttyhotspurs]

Absolutely shocking decisions from referee it was a ****ing penalty... and this is second time after Wigan´s game...

its safe to say we havent had a great deal of luck so far this season :)

[GQCoolest]

GDS for Zokora. I like it. Go for it, it's there.

[GQCoolest]

BAE, that is awful.

[denis-cro]

BAE shouldn´t be allowed to play for Spurs ever again !!!!!!!!!

[peterc]

consistenly good? or bad? what quality does he lack? what do you think his job is for spurs?

To assist the forward line, try and defend without commiting un necessary fouls and try and avoid losing possession that unfortunately ATM most of the team suffers from.:eek:

[olly27]

Better play there ...come on...lets go for the throat

[olly27]

Finally a decent delivery from Bentley...

[MarlowSpurs]

Finally a decent delivery from Bentley...

in how many games has that taken!!

[nuttyhotspurs]

To assist the forward line, try and defend without commiting un necessary fouls and try and avoid losing possession that unfortunately ATM most of the team suffers from.:eek:

to assist the forward line. lmfao i knew somat like that was comin! get real!

i wouldnt think that was one of his main jobs, its to battle in the middle and try to win then ball then play it simple in my opinion. the reason he is going forward today is because no f*ucker else did in the 1st half

[GQCoolest]

Goal from nothing for then. 2-0. Game over.

[peterc]

Game over, we are f*cking sh*te.:mad: :mad:

[olly27]

**** IT...ITS OFFICIAL OUR LEAGUE SEASON IS OVER. it was anyway.

[LifeTimeYido]

FCUK

They were there for the taking... :mad:

[denis-cro]

Absolutely shocking !!!!!!!!

[jrio]

Game over. Relegation fight fully in progress.

[MarlowSpurs]

Where the F*CK is the marking, I haven't seen this much shit since I last drunk 10 pints of Guiness and ate a chicken vindaloo

[olly27]

Ramos got it totally flipping wrong today...and I love Ramos, but he got it badly wrong.

[matthius23]

We are in big big trouble. They havent had a sniff this half, one chance and they take it... something we can't do.

[GQCoolest]

Ramos got it terribly wrong from the start.

[peterc]

to assist the forward line. lmfao i knew somat like that was comin! get real!


I will get real when Ramos start playing players in their proper position and stops changing formations and play the ones who tend to have more quality than some players we have on the pitch at present.

[MarlowSpurs]

Ramos got it terribly wrong from the start.

of the season

[LifeTimeYido]

Can we not just play the barcodes again ??

[olly27]

We will score..though...lol

[MarlowSpurs]

Can we not just play the barcodes again ??

We could but we would lose

[denis-cro]

If we dont win next two games... Hull and Stoke, than I expect some changes are going to happen in our coaching stuff... Ramos made a massive mistake today with such an idiotic starting line up.... I have lost faith in his capabilities... we are missing Malbranque massively !!!!!!!

[nuttyhotspurs]

lol "you don't know what ya doin" my thoughts exactly! ramos is godam clueless

2 down. take a forward off. he must be "thinking of thursday"

ridiculous

[MarlowSpurs]

If we dont win next two games... Hull and Stoke, than I expect some changes are going to happen in our coaching stuff... Ramos made a massive mistake today with such an idiotic starting line up.... I have lost faith in his capabilities... we are missing Malbranque massively !!!!!!!

Hull and Stoke are NOT going to be easy games

[MarlowSpurs]

lol "you don't know what ya doin" my thoughts exactly! ramos is godam clueless

who's singing that???

[peterc]

Looks like he is starting to show us all that he is not going to be the right man to take us to the next level.

[nuttyhotspurs]

who's singing that???

spurs fans lol

[rootman69]

Brillaint i get to feel like a Leeds Utd supporter again, going into work tomorrow. I love it hahaha

[nuttyhotspurs]

Looks like he is starting to show us all that he is not going to be the right man to take us to the next level.

well we are getting left at the bottom. at some point we will need a good run. cant see us doing that at the mo' . SHIT!:confused:

[denis-cro]

Bent WTF was that ???????????

[MarlowSpurs]

spurs fans lol

LMFAO....classic

Why take a striker off when you are 2-0 nil down for ****s sake

[olly27]

Bent should have flipping started, as should lennon and GDS. I just couldn't believe all three were left out, quite unbelievable.

[nuttyhotspurs]

keep thinkin we are due a bit of luck soon but have we earned it?

[MarlowSpurs]

well we are getting left at the bottom. at some point we will need a good run. cant see us doing that at the mo' . SHIT!:confused:

nope me neither, 2 points from a possible 18 what a crock of shit

[nuttyhotspurs]

Bent should have flipping started, as should lennon and GDS. I just couldn't believe all three were left out, quite unbelievable.

i thought ramos was known for his attacking formations and fast pace , attacking wingers etc

[MarlowSpurs]

keep thinkin we are due a bit of luck soon but have we earned it?

In a word....nope

[nuttyhotspurs]

nope me neither, 2 points from a possible 18 what a crock of shit

f*uckin hell we are in deep shit arent we

[MarlowSpurs]

i thought ramos was known for his attacking formations and fast pace , attacking wingers etc

He left that in Spain

[MarlowSpurs]

f*uckin hell we are in deep shit arent we

and people think Newcastle are in the shit, they have got twice as many points as we have

[peterc]

well we are getting left at the bottom. at some point we will need a good run. cant see us doing that at the mo' . SHIT!:confused:

Absolute shambles mate, we are playing like a championship team, what worries me is that we don't seem to improve from one game to another.

[GQCoolest]

Seriously. Portsmouth completely lacks speed, and so we leave our 3 paciest players on the bench? Terrible Juande.

[nuttyhotspurs]

He left that in Spain

along with his managerial ability and tactical skills!

[MarlowSpurs]

Absolute shambles mate, we are playing like a champioship team, what worries me is that we don't seem to improve from one game to another.

Thats not fair on the Championship teams

[olly27]

Over and Out...again ahave to avoid SSN for a few days! Oh well am use to it.

This is really getting pathetic now.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Absolute shambles mate, we are playing like a champioship team, what worries me is that we don't seem to improve from one game to another.

how can we when the starting 11 changes EVERY game. we are getting zero cohesion and understanding from game to game. f*uck i bet there are only 3 or 4 players that are reasonably certain they will be picked to start before each game. that in itself is absolutely ridiculous

[MarlowSpurs]

Well I hope Damien Comolli has got a shit load of talent lined up for the january transfer window cause we ****ing need it

[GQCoolest]

We have been embarassing ever since the 2nd goal went in. Lost all belief.

[peterc]

Thats not fair on the Championship teams


Well okay then, division two team, or is that still too high of a standard for us?:o :o

[nuttyhotspurs]

if we go out the uefa on thursday then i seriously think the shit will hit the fan

[MarlowSpurs]

Well okay then, division two team, or is that still too high of a standard for us?:o :o

at the moment yes...lol.

[MarlowSpurs]

if we go out the uefa on thursday then i seriously think the shit will hit the fan

Spurs fan is currently clogged up with all the shit thats hit it recently

[ronseyward]

Congratulations to the fans who supported the team through that debacle if the players had as much passion as them we wouldn't be in this shit - As for Ramos he seriously needs to look at himself, his substitutions today were unbelievable; Zokora off! The best guy in the pitch -he keeps Jenas on - puts Bent on alone - what the hell are we supposed to think now Juande? We are crap! beyond crap and the buck stops with you as you pick the team!And as for the the players they bear the burden and should be ashamed to wear the shirt! I have never seen such a lacklustre team as we are at the moment - at this rate we will have less points than Derby - 6 matches 2 points that is frightening !!!!

I am so pissed off !!!!!

[peterc]

how can we when the starting 11 changes EVERY game. we are getting zero cohesion and understanding from game to game. f*uck i bet there are only 3 or 4 players that are reasonably certain they will be picked to start before each game. that in itself is absolutely ridiculous

Mr Ramos should have the answers, shame we haven't seem them are results as concerned.

[nuttyhotspurs]

out of interest how many points did derby have at this point last season?

[GQCoolest]

If we don't beat Hull and Stoke, it is relegation scrap for sure. We need the next 6 points badly.

[peterc]

What next folks?, do we continue backing Ramos?, what happens next?.:o

[GQCoolest]

Derby had 4 points after 6 matches. They got their 1st win over the barcodes in their 6th.

[MarlowSpurs]

Derby had 4 points after 6 matches. They got their 1st win over the barcodes in their 6th.

Oh f*ck......

[LifeTimeYido]

They were there for the taking and wern't the best team on the pitch either, by a long shot.

Poor tactics, employing a target man with 5 in midfield where the midfield didn't support our main striker, and showing very little in the way of creativity as well, totally bereft of attacking ideas.

Woefull.

[jrio]

out of interest how many points did derby have at this point last season?
4 points as they drew with Brum in their first game and beat Toon 1 nil in their 6th.

EDIT: Ah, beaten to it.

They also had 6 points after 10 games.

[GQCoolest]

At this point I'm glad I live in the U.S., and most of my friends don't follow the EPL. Couldn't imagine the ragging I'd get otherwise.

[berbzy 'G']

The only thing I enjoyed out of that match is the Tottenham supporters giving Campbell so much abuse. But the team is just shite, absolutely f*cking useless, As for Pav, well why is he even a football player?

[nuttyhotspurs]

Where the F*CK is the marking, I haven't seen this much shit since I last drunk 10 pints of Guiness and ate a chicken vindaloo

ha ****in ha just wet myself !!! belter mate

[Aussieyid]

If only we had got the clear penalty and Pav had finished the great cross of Bentley half way through the 2nd half it would have been a different story today.

[spursmadnick06]

So glad that we sold Defoe, Bent and Pav look miles above his class.

[nuttyhotspurs]

if only we had a decent side and know how to play the game

[berbzy 'G']

if only we had a decent side and know how to play the game

.... and keep the ball :confused:

[Ginola's Son]

So glad that we sold Defoe, Bent and Pav look miles above his class.

MUG. One of the best players we had.

[Yid]

Where do we go from here?

Poor display, nothing shown today, **** off ramos. Pav is sh*t.

We must start Bent v hull.

Dissapointing result but losing to a club of Portsmouths stature isnt a terrible result, plenty will get beat by them.

Must win v hull.

[TURKISH]

MUG. One of the best players we had.

But some think defoe was shit?:eek: Quality player who was more spurs than keano, berba and bent!

I allways suffer as a spurs fan i have never seen the good times.:(

[noonelikeus]

that was a really good game
Tottenham is in a perfect performance before UEFA Cup 2nd leg against Wisła Kraków.

nice one !! its gonna be about 5-0 on thursday

[Spur]

Oh dear.

That was rather poor.

[Shelfside]

Putting aside some of the usual inept performances and a particularly spazzy attempt at clearing the ball by JJ,the blame lies firmly at the feet of Ramos.Yes,we should have been given a penalty,but the ref should also have given Pompey a second penalty for shirt tugging by Dawson on Crouch.And we did not have a shot on target until the 88th minute.
Team selection and tactics were wrong as they have been all season.Hull city did us a favour yesterday by proving that you do not need time to 'gel'.Ramos clearly has no idea of his best starting 11 and even less idea about the best formation.In the pre-match predictions on here,we all agreed that utilising our pace would be the key.Then Ramos starts without Lennon and GDS.wtf?.
It would seem that given the vocal reaction by the Spurs fans at the game to the Pav/Bent substitution,it is now clear that some fans,at whatever percentage you perceive,have now moved into the discontented zone.If we go out of the UEFA cup and the league results do not improve,then those fans will be moving into the 'Ramos out' zone.
Even the greatest club managers in football history have one or two blots on their CV copybooks.I get the increasing impression that Tottenham will be one such blot for Ramos.

[Spur]

that was a really good game
Tottenham is in a perfect performance before UEFA Cup 2nd leg against Wisła Kraków.

nice one !! its gonna be about 5-0 on thursday

Mate, check our cup performances year on year, I think you will find we're a cup team. not been out of UEFA before league stage, not even been out before knockouts. We're 2-1 up, so it's all to play for, but, your team is not near ours.

I do look forward to it though.

[LifeTimeYido]

that was a really good game
Tottenham is in a perfect performance before UEFA Cup 2nd leg against Wisła Kraków.

nice one !! its gonna be about 5-0 on thursday

Get fcuked you cave dwelling retard.

[spursmadnick06]

What sort of manager swaps a lone striker for a striker when you're losing?

Prepare for a relegation battle.

[berbzy 'G']

I want Y.P.Lee, Malbranque and Chimbonda back. Do you know why? Because not only can they pass a football, But they know how to run.

[Spur]

What sort of manager swaps a lone striker for a striker when you're losing?

Prepare for a relegation battle.

Extremely baffling.

[spursmadnick06]

Why does Bentley keep taking the set pieces? people used to moan at JJ but at least he scored/created goals once in a while. Bentley hasn't once looked close.

[nuttyhotspurs]

his head has gone. along with everyone elses

[rootman69]

Ahh lawd, have mercy on us rag tag bunch of moronic pima donnas!!!

[choda]

We were doing well until shithead decides to stick his arm out because he is too f*cking lazy to use his leg.

By the way anyone who is calling for Ramos's head, they are the people that will land the club back in the nineties and completely f*cked again. Ramos is a top manager, it took a long time to get the club to the point that we could attract someone like him and sacking him would be one of the worst decisions we could possibly make at this point.

As horrible as the situation is he is rebuilding from scratch and it is improving. We didn't get much luck today and when we were on top in the beginning then Jenas had one of his moments, then when we were on top second half and getting some momentum we are denied a clear pen. Then against the run of play they score a somewhat lucky goal on the break. Ball could have gone many places, but it fell straight to that lanky string of piss's head.

I can't say Ramos is helping himself with some of his selections, Ekotto has to be the worst left back in the prem. Can anyone name anyone worse? I can't think of any right now. He has no positional sense what so ever, he is lazy, he is lax with the ball, he can't tackle and on and on. He is decent on the ball sometimes, that is all I can say for him.

And Jenas is just a retard, he doesn't know what to do in midfield. And when it comes to the crunch you can bet on him f*cking up. He's a loser. He'll mess your team up. The best thing we can do is just get rid of him. At least O'Hara, even if he is having a stinker like today will try to control the game, put some tackles and simple link play together not run ahead of the ball and leave gaps behind if he doesn't get it back. I can't stand JJ, I really can't.

And Zokora, for all his lack of abililty is more likeable. At least he has a pair, but he's also just as bad in reality because he has no brain, no ability. No positional sense, no good decision making capacity, no technique. All he has is tenacity after he makes the right move (too rare) and running ability. But then he's not even the best tackler, he has no technique. As for his passing well it's barely non-league standard.

Corluka was our best player for 90 minutes today. Am I the only one that thinks he is wasted at right back? He clearly has so much ability to influence the game. We have to give him some games in central midfield. The few times he got some ball today he did very good things like he was having a cup of tea.

But all in all we just have to be patient. I am expecting this and more of it for a while. Just make sure the manager stays and then we will get out and move on an upward momentum. If we keep him we will have a bright future. If we don't we will probably turn into a shambles with no return and join Leeds, well, join the championship anyway.

[choda]

Why does Bentley keep taking the set pieces? people used to moan at JJ but at least he scored/created goals once in a while. Bentley hasn't once looked close.

Apart from the golden chance he setup today and the goal he created against Boro. Bentley is playing terribly and his set pieces have gone to pot but it never ceases to amaze how you say Jenas's shit smells sweet.

[gomessi]

Corluka was our best player for 90 minutes today. Am I the only one that thinks he is wasted at right back? He clearly has so much ability to influence the game. We have to give him some games in central midfield. The few times he got some ball today he did very good things like he was having a cup of tea.

corluka was our best outfield player and the only one that looked composed in pocession.

He is better than our headless chicken that is zokora and JJ.

BUT we cant play corluka in mid if it means we have to have disaster dawson playing.

someone needs to show ramos that corluka is a better option in midfield when compared to dawson

I wish ramos would see this!!!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/corluka/video/x3xw3t_corluka-plays-in-the-midfield-vs-ne_sport

[choda]

Corluka was our best player for 90 minutes today. Am I the only one that thinks he is wasted at right back? He clearly has so much ability to influence the game. We have to give him some games in central midfield. The few times he got some ball today he did very good things like he was having a cup of tea.

corluka was our best outfield player and the only one that looked composed in pocession.

He is better than our headless chicken that is zokora and JJ.

BUT we cant play corluka in mid if it means we have to have disaster dawson playing.

someone needs to show ramos that corluka is a better option in midfield when compared to dawson

I wish ramos would see this!!!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/corluka/video/x3xw3t_corluka-plays-in-the-midfield-vs-ne_sport

I'm one of Dawson's biggest detractors but A. He played well today aside from a few compulsary unnecessary aimless Dawson hoofs B. King has played a good bit lately and C. Central midfield is our BIGGEST problem.

Dawson and everyone else would probably shore up a lot more if they had protection and players that can hold possession in front of them. Indeed look at the difference putting three in there and O'Hara (stays in position, tackles, passes it and doesn't run ahead of the ball) has made to the solidity.

I know we conceded two today (one a pen, thanks to dumbass) but we don't look nearly as likely to concede lately and over a season would concede half as much if we really sorted out central midfield. And we would also be far better at controlling the game, creating goals and putting games to bed.

[gazzaG8]

O'Hara lost his head early on & was poor for the rest of the game. (As were the whole midfield again)
Pav must be wondering whats going on, to say he was feeding off scraps today was a major understatment.
Bentley seems to be trying too hard with his set pieces, i can't believe i'm going to say this, but can JJ take the next free kick?

[TURKISH]

i miss defoe. Berba will score against us and so will keane.:(

[choda]

We need to try Corluka, O'Hara and Modric as a three in central midfield. Zokora and Jenas are a load of rubbish.

[peterc]

We need to try Corluka, O'Hara and Modric as a three in central midfield. Zokora and Jenas are a load of rubbish.


To commit un necessary fouls and run around like a headless chicken, consistent yes, but lacks quality.

[choda]

To commit un necessary fouls and run around like a headless chicken, consistent yes, but lacks quality.

That's Zokora you are talking about there. O'Hara sends messages that we are not going to give up midfield, sits and tries to control and passes the ball well. He is just lacking in confidence like so many are, but he is still way better than Zokora and Jenas. They are completely headless and lacking in quality.

Jenas plays in midfield like as if he is in the final third all the time. He hasn't a clue. He doesn't realise he is supposed to stay behind the ball as a central midfielder and make late runs for crosses or surging runs with the ball when it opens up for him. He runs ahead of the ball all the time, it's a disaster.

And to be honest his passing is so average even if he did stay and try to link the play. He's just not good enough. He couldn't do Viera's job or Scholes or Fabregas even if he tried? But you'd think he would try to do it and do a pretty solid job and give us a platform at least. He just hides from the game, gets rid of it and runs forward and eventually gets a few goals so madnick can say he is great. :p

Jenas is a bad joke. And yes it is becoming personal now Peter. I do hate him. I'm thinking of taking out a hit. :D That's a JOKE, just in case it does happen, because it wouldn't surprise me. Lol.

You see, the only thing that is stopping me is that there are mad bastards out there that would probably give you 12 MILLION for him. :D We should give Harry a call say 'top top' a few times and get him ticing on his favourite phrase. 'Jenas, oh, wphu, he's a top player... top, top playr... engine is unbelievable, oh yea, top, top playr, wphu, deary me... he's a clauss act mate you know (twitch) top, top playr'.

I wonder what conversations are like between Harry and Jamie. I'd imagine you hear 'top, top' a lot. They probably just end up saying it at the same time over and over.

As for Zokora he is just a league one player, what else can you say?

[gazzaG8]

O'Hara doesn't stop running & plays for the shirt, but was f*cking woeful today

[gazzaG8]

O'Hara doesn't stop running & plays for the shirt, but was f*cking woeful today.

[choda]

'Can I get a reeewindd?' ;) :D

[peterc]

As for Zokora he is just
a league one player, what else can you say?

Funny you should say that and both Dixon and Mckeon said on MOTD2 that he was the best player on the pitch and he should have not been subbed, opnions eh mate, they sure make one's head spin.:confused: Jenas did have a poor game today but I still think that he is the best midfielder we have at present.

[berbzy 'G']

We need to try Corluka, O'Hara and Modric as a three in central midfield. Zokora and Jenas are a load of rubbish.

Corluka is extemely lazy

[choda]

[/B]

Funny you should say that and both Dixon and Mckeon said on MOTD2 that he was the best player on the pitch and he should have not been subbed, opnions eh mate, they sure make one's head spin.:confused: Jenas did have a poor game today but I still think that he is the best midfielder we have at present.

I'm not sure people say the same things when they watch players week in week out for 90 minutes and not just on Motd! Makes a huge difference.

[choda]

Corluka is extemely lazy

I think that is just his style, relaxed not lazy. He was also extremely good today. Arguments? No, didn't think so.

[TURKISH]

Take jenas out the side we would still lose.

Imo jenas is our best midfieder by a mile (if thats a good thing) and zok is a better player than jamie. Zok tried to get things going in midfield and was our best player and probly has been our best player this season. What did jamie do? Apart from give his all he just ran around like a headless chicken who didn't know what he was doing.

[berbzy 'G']

I think that is just his style, relaxed not lazy. He was also extremely good today. Arguments? No, didn't think so.

Oh somebodys in a bad mood :eek:

[choda]

Take jenas out the side we would still lose.

Imo jenas is our best midfieder by a mile (if thats a good thing) and zok is a better player than jamie. Zok tried to get things going in midfield and was our best player and probly has been our best player this season. What did jamie do? Apart from give his all he just ran around like a headless chicken who didn't know what he was doing.

Jamie is worth Jenas and Zok added together which unfortunately means he's not having the best of times himself either and has to regain his confidence. But he has to be starting with the present crew, defo.

[peterc]

I'm not sure people say the same things when they watch players week in week out for 90 minutes and not just on Motd! Makes a huge difference.

Obviously they stated what they saw in today's game, I think that he did quite well compared to others who seemed not to care less.

[TURKISH]

Jamie is worth Jenas and Zok added together which unfortunately means he's not having the best of times himself either and has to regain his confidence. But he has to be starting with the present crew, defo.

He really isn't imo but thats opinions for you.

[berbzy 'G']

I hate O'Hara, He really winds me up!

[corkspur]

just in from the pub,met a load of leeds fans,they are really looking forward to meeting spurs next season!!they might be right on todays performance,total shite.no heart in the team,if we dont win our next 2 league games,ramos is a goner i reckon,the man hasnt got a clue!! really pissed off with spurs at the moment!long hard season ahead!!!

[choda]

What does Micheal Jackson do in the bath?

He blows bubbles. LOL.

Yea, it's an oldie, everyone's heard it but it's still hilario. We need some laughs at the moment, God knows.

Cheers for buying the product I promote lads by the way, I've been overwhelmed by the response. :rolleyes: :)

[Shuggie13]

I watched the match today and if I don't see Jenas play another match in a Spurs shirt I will not shed a single tear. My patience has completely gone with him. Today's match sums him up. I turned around to mate and said 'Is Jenas the Invisible Man today, I haven't even seen him, let alone touch the ball'. 10 seconds later he gave away the penalty. Half way through the second half he then played a few delectable one-two's that 'make him such a great midfielder' (copyright Jenas Fan Club). As for the notion that he covers so much ground, has a great engine and work rate, I'll make this very simple for you all, it means nothing if there is no end result.

O'Hara spent the majority of the first half looking like the only player up for it and even he faded away by association. Same with Lennon, came on looked lively and then faded into obscurity.

Ramos needs to sort himself out. We played a team that has just conceeded 10 goals, we should have hit them with pace from the start, GDS & Lennon both starting. The whole set-up looks confusing. Admitedly for the first 20 minutes there was some good movement, then the whole team switched off.

Zokora has his moments but his mazey runs need to be part of his game, not just at random moments.

Oh, did I mention that Jenas can go do one? :)

[mjbmedia]

anyway, on the plus side i think Dawson had a big improvement, i know thats not saying much but if all our players improved to that percentage then we'd be a lot better.
state the bleeding obvious!

[Shuggie13]

That sums up the season so far, Dawson was indeed a lot better after looking a complete shambles so far.

[wayne wonder]

im so hungover:(

[peterc]

im so hungover:(


Hungover with drowning in one's sorrows. no doubt.:mad:

Just read on another post that you tried to celebrate your 30th birthday, hope you had a good one under such circumstances.

[spursmadnick06]

Take jenas out the side we would still lose.

Imo jenas is our best midfieder by a mile (if thats a good thing) and zok is a better player than jamie. Zok tried to get things going in midfield and was our best player and probly has been our best player this season. What did jamie do? Apart from give his all he just ran around like a headless chicken who didn't know what he was doing.

Jenas is our best midfielder, it might not be saying much but he is. I hope that Jenas does get dropped next week though, let everyone see how good we will be without him. I think alot of people will be in for a shock.

Simple fact is the likes of O'Hara are not good enough.

[wayne wonder]

Hungover with drowning in one's sorrows. no doubt.:mad:

Just read on another post that you tried to celebrate your 30th birthday, hope you had a good one under such circumstances.

it was going great until sunday mate what a load of sh*t!! nobodys got a clue the team are clueless and ramos looks like a derr caught in the headlights at the min.

I do believe we'll turn it round and finish mid table WOW great another wasted season then come pre season we're gonna do it tthis season then sell bale, gio, modric etc f*cking makes u think why do we build ourselves up for the mighty fall as per usual!!:(

[wayne wonder]

Jenas is our best midfielder, it might not be saying much but he is. I hope that Jenas does get dropped next week though, let everyone see how good we will be without him. I think alot of people will be in for a shock.

Simple fact is the likes of O'Hara are not good enough.

There lies the problem mate he's our best midfielder and thats why wer are where we are because not just him half the squad arent up to it!!!

[spursmadnick06]

There lies the problem mate he's our best midfielder and thats why wer are where we are because not just him half the squad arent up to it!!!


Yep we are awful it just seems odd that the blame always seems to come back to JJ somehow, maybe if he's dropped for a few games and we still keep losing fans may get off his back a bit.

[Spur]

Jenas is our best midfielder, it might not be saying much but he is. I hope that Jenas does get dropped next week though, let everyone see how good we will be without him. I think alot of people will be in for a shock.

Simple fact is the likes of O'Hara are not good enough.

Zokora was our best yesterday. That says alot.

And Jenas is not better than Modric, Gio, Bentley.

[jrio]

Yep we are awful it just seems odd that the blame always seems to come back to JJ somehow, maybe if he's dropped for a few games and we still keep losing fans may get off his back a bit.
I've got a feeling an utterly pointless handball for a penalty has brought that focus back to JJ. :mad:

[Apples]

I remember last season had so many debates with people that we had liabilities in our team such as Jenas and Dawson!

Funny how it takes people on here so long to realise the downfalls these players have! I'm not saying that they are really bad players. The problem is for me is there not cut out for a club like ours who wants to compete with the top four!

They are mid table players that is it! Jenas I think may do better at another club but because of his lack of ability to take a game by the scruff of the neck and mark his authority on a game he will never be a high quality midfielder!

Dawson I always could tell he was a donkey in disguise! Zokora is like Jenas also cannot control a game! I never rated Carrik that highly, still dont think he is that good a player but he certaintly did the things that all our boys can't do which was take control of a game! Why we have missed him so much!

But glad to see some of you people are starting to wake up nowadays! We need a top class centre mid and if Ramos dont get one in Jan this could be one of the worse seasons I've ever personally seen as a Spurs fan.

[peterc]

=wayne wonder;105522]it was going great until sunday mate what a load of sh*t!! nobodys got a clue the team are clueless and ramos looks like a derr caught in the headlights at the min.

I do believe we'll turn it round and finish mid table WOW great another wasted season then come pre season we're gonna do it tthis season then sell bale, gio, modric etc f*cking makes u think why do we build ourselves up for the mighty fall as per usual!!:([/

Thereafter, back to the old sh*te.:(

[Gino Ginelli]

Whats going on??!

Sunday was the first match I've had the chance to see this season, and dear god! What the hell happened to the glorious signings?!

Bentley, Modric, Dos Santos, Paluyzcenko, Gomes, Campbell... All good, all exciting. But what do I see? JJ with a captains armband STILL giving the ball away running all over with no real direction. Is Bentley on the left or the right? Why is Pal and Bent not a partnership? Where the **** IS Modric?!

It all looks like such a mess, no one really seems to know what they're supposed to be doing. And is Dawson the example of a reverse player? Started great, but gets worse each year?

I'm not sure what the problem is, but I think a back to basics approach has got be used here. Simple 4-4-2, ball on the deck, use the flanks, etc etc. Having Hutton, Bale and King fit has got to be a priority, as we really need that back four stable. Bentley and Dos Santos as wingers, Modric and Hudd in the middle. I know Hudd is slow but if he can just protect the back four it'll allow Modric to bomb on. Pal and Bent up front. There's no way they'll get goals unless the gel as a strike partnership soon, and they have to play together to do that!

Everyone's probably already said this, but the simple approach is the only thing I can say right now. They all seem so confused as to what system they're using!

Sort It!!!!!!!!!

[MiloMinderbinder]

If we never let the following anywhere the first team again we should be ok;
Dawson, BAE, Zokora, Jenas, Lennon, Dawson..........fill in any blanks as you go along boys.

I know Dawson is on "the list" twice, I just think he's that bad. Can we get Gardner back now please.

[berbzy 'G']

Whats going on??!

Sunday was the first match I've had the chance to see this season, and dear god! What the hell happened to the glorious signings?!

Bentley, Modric, Dos Santos, Paluyzcenko, Gomes, Campbell... All good, all exciting. But what do I see? JJ with a captains armband STILL giving the ball away running all over with no real direction. Is Bentley on the left or the right? Why is Pal and Bent not a partnership? Where the **** IS Modric?!

It all looks like such a mess, no one really seems to know what they're supposed to be doing. And is Dawson the example of a reverse player? Started great, but gets worse each year?

I'm not sure what the problem is, but I think a back to basics approach has got be used here. Simple 4-4-2, ball on the deck, use the flanks, etc etc. Having Hutton, Bale and King fit has got to be a priority, as we really need that back four stable. Bentley and Dos Santos as wingers, Modric and Hudd in the middle. I know Hudd is slow but if he can just protect the back four it'll allow Modric to bomb on. Pal and Bent up front. There's no way they'll get goals unless the gel as a strike partnership soon, and they have to play together to do that!

Everyone's probably already said this, but the simple approach is the only thing I can say right now. They all seem so confused as to what system they're using!

Sort It!!!!!!!!!

You've certainly been keeping your eye on Spurs since you been away mate. We've been going round in circles in here with them :confused:

[choda]

There lies the problem mate he's our best midfielder and thats why wer are where we are because not just him half the squad arent up to it!!!

Is he f*ck mate and you know it, sober up! :p They're all as bad as each other the cms at the moment. But at least O'Hara is trying to do the right things and with a bit more experience and confidence might make a player. And Modric on the overall scheme of things is by far and away the best, but just hasn't gotten used to English football at all yet.

[choda]

If we never let the following anywhere the first team again we should be ok;
Dawson, BAE, Zokora, Jenas, Lennon, Dawson..........fill in any blanks as you go along boys.

I know Dawson is on "the list" twice, I just think he's that bad. Can we get Gardner back now please.

But he actually had a solid game the last day. If he plays like that I have little problems with him, well okay I'd still like to throttle him for pointless hoofing.

People suggesting Big Sam. :confused: :(

Can anyone recommend a good 'how to commit suicide' website?

And how can you stick the boot into Lennon like that? He is one of the few improving and he stretches the game and creates chances. Sure, his final product needs work but give him a chance he's young and is a match winner.

As for the rest I can't agree more. Ekotto is my latest target of hate. He is ****ing USELESS. He's a left back Jenas. That's exactly what he is. Has no idea how to play the position, he's brainless, he tackles like a girl, he gets bullied, he's often in the wrong position altogether, he ball watches, he's lax on the ball, often gives it away. Oh but he can run, does some lovely things at times and he's got POTENTIAL. Great.

[wayne wonder]

im back and im sober and im still angry:mad:

what kind of sh*t are we in ffs no fight or any clue we can talk about formations etc but no doubt we'll stick to the 4-5-1 which isnt working at the mo.

[jrio]

im back and im sober and im still angry:mad:

what kind of sh*t are we in ffs no fight or any clue we can talk about formations etc but no doubt we'll stick to the 4-5-1 which isnt working at the mo.

I'd advise getting really pissed from about 12 on Thursday as there's likely to be an awful lot of shit to stomach from about 2.30pm on.

[wayne wonder]

I'd advise getting really pissed from about 12 on Thursday as there's likely to be an awful lot of shit to stomach from about 2.30pm on.

thank god im back at work then so will miss it but im a sucker for punishment so will sky + it :(

[GQCoolest]

It's such a simple formation when AH gets back:

Hutton---King/Corluka ----Woody----Bale

Bentley----Modric-----Corluka/Hudd/Jenas/Zok/NEW SIGNING---GDS

--------------Pav--------Bent-------


Typicaly subs should be Lennon and Campbell, save another if you have an injury.

It's such a SIMPLE formation. Our best 11 is the one that includes Corluka at DM and Ledley at CB. Yet I don't believe this lineup has started yet, we've done crap like Modric on the left, Bentley on the left, Bale on the left, BAE on the field, single striker. IT AIN'T WORKING. We had really better smash Hull and play positive football or I will be livid.