Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Wigan Athletic

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[gomessi]

think we will lose.

spurs 1 wigan 2

There was nothing I saw from the wisla game that gives me hope of beating a more well organised wigan team (who have got more clean sheets than us this season).

[LifeTimeYido]

Blind faith has me for a Spurs 2-1 win.

We will concede.

Pav to get both goals.

[mjbmedia]

Zaki hattrick

[inthewoods]

This is a very hard one to predict....I think it will probably be a 1-1 draw with Bent to get the goal. Maybe we could scrape a win if our defense turns up and manages not to concede a goal, but that wont happen. A win would be brilliant however, it would really kick start our season.

[inthewoods]

Zaki hattrick

Jees, your confident.

[spursmadnick06]

There are teams that we never beat, and there are teams that we never lose to. Wigan are the latter.

3-1.

[berbzy 'G']

Valencia and Zaki will torcher us

[wayne wonder]

Spurs 2-1 victory!!

Bentley and Bent!!

[peterc]

I don't think that at the present moment we are capable of beating anyone in the premiership, especially after last Monday's and yesterday's displays. Wigan to win 1-3.

[Spur]

The second in our 5 match unbeaten run.

2-0. Gomes with both.

[SunDog]

Seeing as my predictions are really shit, I'll go for a 4-0 win to Wigan, in the hope that as usual my prediciton is reversed :p

[irishspur]

Draw for me they have too much attacking threat with heskey,zaki, and valencia not to score. It basically depends how well we attack. We should line out like this...

Gomes
Corluka
Woodgate
King
Bale
Bentley
JJ
Hudd
Lennon
Bent
Pav

subs,
Cesar
Gunter
O'hara
Zokora
Gilberto
Gio dos santos
campbell

[Ioang]

Just saw this on another forum, fret not yiddos!

http://i38.tinypic.com/2ahy14z.jpg

[apr82]

it will be a cking miracle if spurs get a result!!!

[berbzy 'G']

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ioang, Your a genius??????????????

[gomessi]

I get depressed looking at a table even though it shows us on top. :(
How the fucj are we worse than stoke and hull!!!!!


By the way I am bottom in the ikts game and I have predicted us to lose so we should...........

[jrio]

Draw for me they have too much attacking threat with heskey,zaki, and valencia not to score. It basically depends how well we attack. We should line out like this...

The Dagenham Girl Pipers have too much attacking threat with our current level of defending. :(

[SunDog]

I've never wanted 3 points so much since Lasagne-Gate :eek:

[Shelfside]

Wigan are one of those teams whom if they can't outplay you,then they will try to outfight you.This could prove to be the difference.
I'll predict 2-1 to Wigan.

[Rojoknapp]

lets have some perspective. I don't care how shit we are - we can never lose at home to wigan. Who the F*ck are wigan?!? a fifth 2-1 result of the season, in our favour this time - DB10 and JJ to score.

[choda]

lets have some perspective. I don't care how shit we are - we can never lose at home to wigan. Who the F*ck are wigan?!? a fifth 2-1 result of the season, in our favour this time - DB10 and JJ to score.

Actually they have a lot of quality and are a dangerous animal. I hope we win, but it is far from certain. It would even have been a tough fixture a few years ago when we had Davids and Carrick in the middle of the park and were on form.

[TURKISH]

To win this game we need warriors on the pitch, players who want hide and go running. We need fighters so we need our british players on show, i would start campbell and bent up front for one and play bale left wing with benoit left back.

Campbell and bent will hopefully cause titus major problems. I hope we win im going to the game!

[berbzy 'G']

lets have some perspective. I don't care how shit we are - we can never lose at home to wigan. Who the F*ck are wigan?!? a fifth 2-1 result of the season, in our favour this time - DB10 and JJ to score.

who the f*ck are we at the moment, Wigan will be hard to turn over with the likes of Valencia, Melchiot and Zaki... They are good on the break, this match should be end to end stuff

[JuicE]

Seeing as my predictions are really shit, I'll go for a 4-0 win to Wigan, in the hope that as usual my prediciton is reversed :p

Ahhh...but with that hope, you have probably reversed what you hoped not to be! :confused: Get my drift? You see.......oh never mind!

I'm going for a 3 - 1 win. If Modric doesn't play we may shuffle the midfield to actually compete. I couldn't see Modric against Wigan being too effective.
Drop the Hudd and the donkey and hey, why not 3 -1.
Pav will get his first goal! Is he playing? Not banged up for breaking cameras?

[gomessi]

To win this game we need warriors on the pitch, players who want hide and go running. We need fighters so we need our british players on show, i would start campbell and bent up front for one and play bale left wing with benoit left back.

Campbell and bent will hopefully cause titus major problems. I hope we win im going to the game!

being british doesnt mean you have more fighting qualities:confused:

jj dissapears most of the game and dawson is ****ing ***** with absolutly no talent and should be playing in the championship.

Our best player this season has been gomes (despite the schocking error) he is much more commanding compared to robbo.

Laugh at titus all you want but there isnt much difference in quality between him and dawson who will get murdered by zaki and heskey.

Our only chance of winning is if we outscore them because we wont be keeping a clean sheet if dawson plays (hope I am wrong but have seen dawson **** up to many times)

The team I would like to see:

bent pav

lennon JJ zok Bentley

bale wood corluka gunter/hutton (when will he be fit)

gomes

[berbzy 'G']

being british doesnt mean you have more fighting qualities:confused:

jj dissapears most of the game and dawson is ****ing ***** with absolutly no talent and should be playing in the championship.

Our best player this season has been gomes (despite the schocking error) he is much more commanding compared to robbo.

Laugh at titus all you want but there isnt much difference in quality between him and dawson who will get murdered by zaki and heskey.

Our only chance of winning is if we outscore them because we wont be keeping a clean sheet if dawson plays (hope I am wrong but have seen dawson **** up to many times)

The team I would like to see:

bent pav

lennon JJ zok Bentley

bale wood corluka gunter/hutton (when will he be fit)

gomes

There is something about Dawson that I got a good feeling about, He even got his England place a few years ago, But hasnt been his best, I dont know wether he has lost his confidence, or needs to devlelop more.

[choda]

being british doesnt mean you have more fighting qualities:confused:

jj dissapears most of the game and dawson is ****ing ***** with absolutly no talent and should be playing in the championship.

Our best player this season has been gomes (despite the schocking error) he is much more commanding compared to robbo.

Laugh at titus all you want but there isnt much difference in quality between him and dawson who will get murdered by zaki and heskey.

Our only chance of winning is if we outscore them because we wont be keeping a clean sheet if dawson plays (hope I am wrong but have seen dawson **** up to many times)

The team I would like to see:

bent pav

lennon JJ zok Bentley

bale wood corluka gunter/hutton (when will he be fit)

gomes

Both make many donkey errors and have poor positional sense to say the least.

Didn't Titus have one outstanding season at Ipswich just like Daws and has more pace and power than Dawson. Is he better?

[gomessi]

There is something about Dawson that I got a good feeling about, He even got his England place a few years ago, But hasnt been his best, I dont know wether he has lost his confidence, or needs to devlelop more.

strikers have worked him out.

[TURKISH]

being british doesnt mean you have more fighting qualities:confused:

jj dissapears most of the game and dawson is ****ing ***** with absolutly no talent and should be playing in the championship.

Our best player this season has been gomes (despite the schocking error) he is much more commanding compared to robbo.

Laugh at titus all you want but there isnt much difference in quality between him and dawson who will get murdered by zaki and heskey.

Our only chance of winning is if we outscore them because we wont be keeping a clean sheet if dawson plays (hope I am wrong but have seen dawson **** up to many times)

The team I would like to see:

bent pav

lennon JJ zok Bentley

bale wood corluka gunter/hutton (when will he be fit)

gomes


JJ looks for the ball did you watch the game on thursday? English players fight does modric, gio, pav show fight? No! Look at campbell he gets stuck in, look at ohara, bale, gunter, hutton, dawson, and jj they all get stuck in. Gio was no where the other game and its a common fact when games are rough, physical foreign players go missing, just look at arsenal for example.

I find it tiresome how people continue to slag off jj when he consitently out performs most players. Brilliant against villa and good against wisla on thursday.

Yes dawson is a donkey but not as bad as bramble.

[TURKISH]

Both make many donkey errors and have poor positional sense to say the least.

Didn't Titus have one outstanding season at Ipswich just like Daws and has more pace and power than Dawson. Is he better?

Please no choda look at the amount of comic erros he makes dawson is ten times the player he is. Dawson is shit but titus is wank.

[jrio]

Yes dawson is a donkey but not as bad as bramble.

Of course Dawson is better than Bramble! Regarding anyone that says different, I'd say: 'Eeyore, Eeyore to know better!'(anyone expecting new gags from me is just expecting too much).

[TURKISH]

Ive backed dawson many times before but ive had enough he is shit but to say bramble maybe better???? LMAO! Do you need me to go to youtube and fetch a load of bramble moments?

[deadleyledley]

i think that we will win 2-1.
bent and campbell to score.

zaki will score for them.

we have to make sure that we win all the high balls in defence otherwise they will score tons.

[nuttyhotspurs]

we have to make sure that we win all the high balls in defence otherwise they will score tons.

im expecting tons of goals then

[gazzaG8]

I'm going 2 or 3-1 Spurs, with hopefully a good performance.

[gomessi]

Of course Dawson is better than Bramble! Regarding anyone that says different, I'd say: 'Eeyore, Eeyore to know better!'(anyone expecting new gags from me is just expecting too much).

truth hurts doesnt it. dawson is shit. Even when dawson was playing better he was still average at best. How many goals on average have we conceded in the last 3 seasons. (my guess would be 55 - about the amount wigan concede).

[berbzy 'G']

When the f*ck does Hutton come back ffs :mad:

[choda]

Please no choda look at the amount of comic erros he makes dawson is ten times the player he is. Dawson is shit but titus is wank.

I know Titus makes comically horrendous errors, but if you add up there shit moments added to their pluses over the last two years I'd say good old Titus may even come out on top.

I say that because A. although he has made some horribly shocking errors, essentially an error is an error and I've seen Dawson make as many and B. I've seen Titus have some very good games and have some very good defending in between the ricks.

Basically I wouldn't touch either of them with yours but the way I look at it at least Titus is strong and quick.

To give you an example their is absolutely no question that the worst defender in the league is Paul McShane. Not the name on everyone's lips like poor old Titus because he doesn't have holy show moments that often but every week he is getting done for lack of brains, pace, height and zero ability on the ball.

[berbzy 'G']

I know Titus makes comically horrendous errors, but if you add up there shit moments added to their pluses over the last two years I'd say good old Titus may even come out on top.

I say that because A. although he has made some horribly shocking errors, essentially an error is an error and I've seen Dawson make as many and B. I've seen Titus have some very good games and even in a game that he eventually f*cked up in have some very good defending in between the ricks.

Basically I wouldn't touch either of them with yours but the way I look at it at least Titus is strong and quick.

To give you an example their is absolutely no question that the worst defender in the league is Paul McShane. Not the name on everyone's lips like poor old Titus because he doesn't have holy show moments that often but every week he is getting done for lack of brains, pace, height and zero ability on the ball.

lol choda i cant believe your comparing bramble to dawson, I do actually find your posts an intresting read with most of your points correct, but this one was funny.

[choda]

lol choda i cant believe your comparing bramble to dawson, I do actually find your posts an intresting read with most of your points correct, but this one was funny.

Well it shows you how much I rate him at this stage. I'd rather play one of the reserves and give them a chance. They can't be any worse.

He's also a hoofer which will never help your case at Tottenham. At least Bramble doesn't think he is f*cking Beckenbaur with the ball at his feet when he's actually got the technique and vision of STUART NETHERCOTT!

[Chewy]

Draw :(

I'd go with

Gomes
Gunter/Corluka
King/Corluka
Woodgate
Bale

Bentley
Jenas
O'Hara
Lennon

Pavy
Bent

subs: cesar, dawson, zokora, campbell, dos santos, huddlestone, gilberto

[berbzy 'G']

Well it shows you how much I rate him at this stage. I'd rather play one of the reserves and give them a chance. They can't be any worse.

He's also a hoofer which will never help your case at Tottenham. At least Bramble doesn't think he is f*cking Beckenbaur with the ball at his feet when he's actually got the technique and vision of STUART NETHERCOTT!

Well atleast I know you dislike Dawson and Defoe now anyway, any others? Mine is Pennant, the bloke needs a slap!

[choda]

Well atleast I know you dislike Dawson and Defoe now anyway, any others? Mine is Pennant, the bloke needs a slap!

I don't dislike Defoe I just think he is overated by many. Pennant oh yea, he's useless. Well in terms of top four anyway, another waste of Pool money courtesy of the Spanish waitor.

[SCIFIN17YID]

What is this game showing on guys ?

Stream
Tv

???

[Baleinho]

Me thinks the confidence will be slightly higher because of the win mid-week. 3-0 Spurs.

Either way, its MUST win. Cannot have Gooners top and us bottom. I have too many Gooner mates who wont shut the **** up all week about it.

[gomessi]

Me thinks the confidence will be slightly higher because of the win mid-week. 3-0 Spurs.

Either way, its MUST win. Cannot have Gooners top and us bottom. I have too many Gooner mates who wont shut the **** up all week about it.

sickening isnt it. I have so many texts about how we have ****ed up the start of our season AGAIN.

[yid1962]

wierd!!!!!, i'm *&%$ing myself over todays game.....
we need a result period.
anyone who thinks wigan will rollover are deluded!!!, a real tough game imho & we'll just about sneak it.
2-1 win.

[TURKISH]

Im going to the wigan game and im not optimistic about getting a result but i just hoping that because he haven't won in ages we are due a win!

Hopefully jesus himself will guide us to a victory!

[JuicE]

Come on guys let's try and be positive shall we? It's always gonna be a hard game, there ain't no easy games in the EPL, but we are the Spurs.
Disapointed to see so many going for a Wigan win on the poll. :(

[Rojoknapp]

If wigan win don't expect to hear from me again because i am seriously considering becoming a city fan at this point.

[berbzy 'G']

If wigan win don't expect to hear from me again because i am seriously considering becoming a city fan at this point.

trator!!!!;)

[SCIFIN17YID]

What is this game showing on guys ?

Stream
Tv

???

*Bump* ^^ I would like to watch us play.

[MarlowSpurs]

*Bump* ^^ I would like to watch us play.

haven't found anywhere yet but keep an eye on this

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/

links are to follow apparently

[Shuggie13]

If wigan win don't expect to hear from me again because i am seriously considering becoming a city fan at this point.

Glory hunter. :)

[nuttyhotspurs]

lol choda i cant believe your comparing bramble to dawson, I do actually find your posts an intresting read with most of your points correct, but this one was funny.

im with choda on this. dawson is playing that badly at the minute that i would take any other cb from the prem in his place. hes just a ****in joke and looks completely clueless. its embarrassing to watch.

bramble scores more og's but yes he does have power and pace. the only reason dawson doesn't score og's is because hes no idea where either of the goals are. plus hes a skinny weakling

[nuttyhotspurs]

haven't found anywhere yet but keep an eye on this

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/

links are to follow apparently

can only see tvants links appearing today. there are a few pay per view sites that aren't showing it today so not gona be easy.

[Chewy]

Team is

Gomes

Zokora
Corluka
Woodgate
Ekotto

Bentley
Jenas
O'Hara
Bale

Bent
Pavy

I'm not pleased with the defence but i'm loving the mid-field.

subs: Cesar, Huddlestone, Gilberto, Lennon, campbell, dos santos, gunter

[denis-cro]

WTF is Ramos donig with this team ???????? Bale is 25 times better at full back than he is as LM... Assouu-Ekotto is shit !!!!!!!

[Chewy]

I'd prefer gilberto at LB and gunter at RB. What was the point in buying gilberto?

[berbzy 'G']

Dawson must be bad if Ramos is moving Corluka into CB position... Bale in LM is a good choice in my opinion, He can burst and get forward alot in LB position, so f*ck knows what he can do in LM

[Spur]

WTF is Ramos donig with this team ???????? Bale is 25 times better at full back than he is as LM... Assouu-Ekotto is shit !!!!!!!

That's absolute rubbish.

[jrio]

Dawson must be bad if Ramos is moving Corluka into CB position... Bale in LM is a good choice in my opinion, He can burst and get forward alot in LB position, so f*ck knows what he can do in LM
Dawson's not even on the bench.

[Chewy]

Corluka is a great CB and played there for city quite a few times so i'm hardly suprised.

[Chewy]

Anybody got a decent stream going?

[Indianspur]

Id change gunter for zokora, bale at lb and in comes gio in his more natural position LW.

[Spur]

Id change gunter for zokora, bale at lb and in comes gio in his more natural position LW.

Gio has never played LW...

Well I'm not sure for Meheko but club football he's never played LW.

And Bale is a winger, I have decided.

[SCIFIN17YID]

Where are you guys streaming from ? I am here


http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun21.9/Tottenham_Wigan.html


And I dont see Tottenham vs Wigan, some one provide working stream links please.

[MarlowSpurs]

everyone is showing the utd vs chelski match, ****s the lot of em

[Indianspur]

Gio has never played LW...

Well I'm not sure for Meheko but club football he's never played LW.

And Bale is a winger, I have decided.

wel he's always played on the left of a 3 man atttack and dont consider him a 2nd striker as been poor so far there.
he's been impressive on either wing though

[spursmadnick06]

I think we might find the second half somewhere once the Manc Chelski games finishes, just have to be patient.

[denis-cro]

absolutely terrible game from spurs 1st half... ****ing bullshit !!!!!!!!!

[spursmadnick06]

absolutely terrible game from spurs 1st half... ****ing bullshit !!!!!!!!!


Not looking good is it? if we don't win this I can't see us getting a result at Porstmouth next week either.

[nuttyhotspurs]

looooookin gooood:o

[wayne wonder]

Why cant we played a settled side? FFS u sure Ranieri's not manager :mad:

[spursmadnick06]

Whatever Jols faults the players clearly loved playing for him, this is not the case now.

[denis-cro]

Not looking good is it? if we don't win this I can't see us getting a result at Porstmouth next week either.

we were terrible 1st half... even Bramble looks WC defender playing vs our attack... only one shoot at goal and it happened after Wigan´s defence made a mistake...so, midfield once again didn´ t create anything...ANYTHING !!!!!

[Spur]

I was happy with the starting 11.

[nuttyhotspurs]

ramos really doesn't have a clue what formation/starting 11 to use does he? very worrying

[Indianspur]

Seems to me Gomes has been brilliant and without him we could have been in trouble!
Need more attacking from the wings so bring on GIO! (bet we bring lennon on the left instead!)

[nuttyhotspurs]

Seems to me Gomes has been brilliant and without him we could have been in trouble!
Need more attacking from the wings so bring on GIO! (bet we bring lennon on the left instead!)


i say gio on the right, lennon on the left, pav at cb, then try bent as a sweeper

[wayne wonder]

FFS hull are 2 nil up how many points they ahead of us??

[Milney yid]

No streams yet anyone?

[wayne wonder]

No streams yet anyone?

I wouldn't even bother mate!! it'll ruin your weekend:(

[nuttyhotspurs]

i got one but its on pay per view. not worth watching

[choda]

Any streams anywhere lads?

[choda]

i got one but its on pay per view. not worth watching

Which site mate?

[Spur]

Any streams anywhere lads?

If you could be bothered to read the thread (or post before) you'll see that nuttyhotspurs has one on a pay-per-view stream but it's not worth watching.

And that also, no-one has any others.

Lazy ****.

[nuttyhotspurs]

FFS hull are 2 nil up how many points they ahead of us??


a lot :confused:

[nuttyhotspurs]

crowd really gettin behind the team 2nd half. shame the football isnt as passionate

[denis-cro]

We´re ****ing TERRIBLE !!!! Absolutely clueless ... Continuosly kicking long balls... O´Hara and Ekotto are useless today...

[denis-cro]

It was a clear penalty on Lennon ... referee you stupid prick !!!!!!!!

[Milney yid]

denis where are you watching all this?

[choda]

If you could be bothered to read the thread (or post before) you'll see that nuttyhotspurs has one on a pay-per-view stream but it's not worth watching.

And that also, no-one has any others.

Lazy ****.

I saw the rest of it you egg, I just wanted to make the question again. And I don't mind paying.

[nuttyhotspurs]

choda i sent you a pm. definite penalty then on lennon. awful decision by the ref!!!

[spursmadnick06]

got a working stream, keeps stalling though ...

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun21.9/Tottenham_Wigan2.html

[choda]

choda i sent you a pm. definite penalty then on lennon. awful decision by the ref!!!

Yea, cheers mate. I'm just going to listen to the radio I think. They are saying Lennon is changing the game. Need that goal.

[Spur]

I saw the rest of it you egg, I just wanted to make the question again. And I don't mind paying.

Don't use my word.

[denis-cro]

denis where are you watching all this?

spursmadnick06 has given the link above

[nuttyhotspurs]

Yea, cheers mate. I'm just going to listen to the radio I think. They are saying Lennon is changing the game. Need that goal.

yea lennon has been electric since he came on. won us a pen (prick ref!) and also the left back has a yellow already

[LifeTimeYido]

Sky Sports have just quoted TITUS BRAMBLE - is one of the best plyers on the park or Wigan - FFS - trust us to make a donkey like that look good.

[wayne wonder]

Pompey have have had their arses handed to them 5-1

[choda]

Don't use my word.

As Jack Charlton says, 'I do what I like!'. And people are always using my words, get over it.

[WelshSpur82]

Bale Off???? Why?

[Spur]

As Jack Charlton says, 'I do what I like!'. And people are always using my words, get over it.

http://chupchap.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/middle-finger.jpg

[MarlowSpurs]

****s sake city can put 5 pass pompy, we can't even get pass Titus Bramble. what a depressing day

[MarlowSpurs]

sorry make that 6

[denis-cro]

Absolutely devastated with our performance today.... we´re in BIIIIIIIIG trouble this season.... Ramos should have his pay cut.... massively

[wayne wonder]

5MINS LEFT COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN :mad:

[jrio]

****s sake city can put 5 pass pompy, we can't even get pass Titus Bramble. what a depressing day
Now 6. Even their bit-part players(Evans and Gelson) are scoring. And they've kept a clean sheet.

[MarlowSpurs]

2 points from a possibly 15, **** we are in deep shit

[MarlowSpurs]

Now 6. Even their bit-part players(Evans and Gelson) are scoring. And they've kept a clean sheet.

Depressing isn't it, and I can't see it getting any better

[Spur]

Terrible. Just terrible.

I'm going for a drink.

[MarlowSpurs]

I'm off to have a look at the championship to see who we are going to play next season.

[LifeTimeYido]

Look on the bright side - a clean sheet and we have doubled our points tally :p :o - - so far.

[denis-cro]

Assou-Ekotto MUSTN´T start any of the remaining Spurs game....

[wayne wonder]

Its not looking good is it lads where do we go from here??? :confused:

[MarlowSpurs]

Look on the bright side - a clean sheet and we have doubled our points tally :p :o - - so far.

and they have the honour of being the most useless team of c**ts in the league

[WelshSpur82]

I tell you where we will go, out of the cup on wednesday most prob! Whoever loses that game wednesday us or Newcastle will literally have nothing left to play for this season!

[Aussieyid]

Its not looking good is it lads where do we go from here??? :confused:

we can only get better mate.

Another disappointing result. Real bad start to this season.

[jrio]

I also wouldn't rate our chances of qualifying for the UEFA Cup league stages as too high.

[SurreySpur]

I honestly cant believe how badly we're playing, its a complete shambles.

Im still confident that it will get better but just how much better im not sure. Why didnt we just pay Zenit what they wanted for arshavin? For the sake of a few million quid.

[choda]

Its not looking good is it lads where do we go from here??? :confused:

We take a clean sheet and a point and build on it. What Juande says is true. It may take a long time to get this show on the road. As much as 10-15 games unfortunately, but there has been so much upheavel and losing Berba and Keane is a huge adjustment.

Juande has the record, I'm sure he will build a side here. I just hope he stays and isn't sacked.

[nuttyhotspurs]

a clean sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[LifeTimeYido]

I tell you where we will go, out of the cup on wednesday most prob! Whoever loses that game wednesday us or Newcastle will literally have nothing left to play for this season!

Im going to that game - my 1st game for two years - its an omen i tells ya !! :p

COYS !!

[denis-cro]

Everything is going against us at the moment... Don´t want to minimize players´and stuff´s responsibilities, but referees are making some shocking decisions against us... (Disallowed regular goal vs Wisla, clear penalty on Lennon not given) ...we´re the most terrible and the most unlucky team at the same time on this moment... ****ing devastated...

[LifeTimeYido]

We take a clean sheet and a point and build on it. What Juande says is true. It may take a long time to get this show on the road. As much as 10-15 games unfortunately, but there has been so much upheavel and losing Berba and Keane is a huge adjustment.

Juande has the record, I'm sure he will build a side here. I just hope he stays and isn't sacked.


More chance of him leaving cos the family not being able to settle here.

[wayne wonder]

we can only get better mate.

Another disappointing result. Real bad start to this season.

Yep we have to win weds or its gonna be a long long winter!! we just dont look like scoring these days, keep changing the team its shocking!!

im so down :(

[choda]

I honestly cant believe how badly we're playing, its a complete shambles.

Im still confident that it will get better but just how much better im not sure. Why didnt we just pay Zenit what they wanted for arshavin? For the sake of a few million quid.

They say it was Zenit's insistence on getting it in one lump and we always pay in four installments over a few years that was the sticking point.

[choda]

More chance of him leaving cos the family not being able to settle here.

That's what I meant that he doesn't walk or get the sack.

[denis-cro]

I also wouldn't rate our chances of qualifying for the UEFA Cup league stages as too high.

Correct... I dont have faith in Spurs anymore... :(

[MarlowSpurs]

More chance of him leaving cos the family not being able to settle here.

and knowing our luck get Dennis Wise in to replace him:( :( :(

[wayne wonder]

We take a clean sheet and a point and build on it. What Juande says is true. It may take a long time to get this show on the road. As much as 10-15 games unfortunately, but there has been so much upheavel and losing Berba and Keane is a huge adjustment.

Juande has the record, I'm sure he will build a side here. I just hope he stays and isn't sacked.

believe me i'd take anything other than another defeat!! Weds night is very important for us right now we need to win and then take it into the pompey game sunday

[nuttyhotspurs]

look on the bright side. our SHIT defence kept zaki and heskey quiet. they never looked like scoring. our first clean sheet in the league since???? god knows how long ago. they are rarer than a spurs win i tell thee

[nuttyhotspurs]

Correct... I dont have faith in Spurs anymore... :(

u predicted spurs to lose mate so u must be slightly happy with a point?

[SurreySpur]

Its just so infuriating knowing that we've spent so much money and have gone into such rapid decline. Losing Keane and Berba was always going to affect us but i at least thought we would utilise Bents pace in behind and use two free runners from midfield (ie Gio, Lennon, Modric, JJ all capable of doing it) but instead we seem absolutley ****ing clueless in all areas. This is turning from dissapointing start to nightmare very, very quickly.

[nuttyhotspurs]

This is turning from dissapointing start to nightmare very, very quickly.

its always been a nightmare bein a spurs fan. ramos needs to stop ****in swapping and changing players for EVERY game its getting ridiculous. players don't know whether they are coming or going.

[Aussieyid]

Yep we have to win weds or its gonna be a long long winter!! we just dont look like scoring these days, keep changing the team its shocking!!

im so down :(

What's really dissapointing for me mate was how easily the wigan defence ( one of the weakest defences in the PL IMO) dealt most of our attacks.

[Shelfside]

We got a point at home to Wigan and kept a clean sheet.The season starts here!.Or maybe not.I don't hold out much hope in the battle of the laughing stocks on Wednesday and Redknapp will bollock his players to within an inch of their lives.Pompey will go hell for leather to beat us next week.
I can't believe some of you are falling for that "it will take us 10-15 games to gel properly" shite.ALL premier league teams are expected to hit the ground running these days,regardless of whom the club has bought and sold.Is Ramos saying that the team needs 10-15 games to gel to protect his players from the burden of expectation,or because it will take him 10-15 games to work out his best starting 11 and tactics?.
Whether anyone likes it or not,Tottenham,within it's board and it's supporters,is not a club known for it's patience.And at 10-15 games in,that patience may be at breaking point.

[choda]

Its just so infuriating knowing that we've spent so much money and have gone into such rapid decline. Losing Keane and Berba was always going to affect us but i at least thought we would utilise Bents pace in behind and use two free runners from midfield (ie Gio, Lennon, Modric, JJ all capable of doing it) but instead we seem absolutley ****ing clueless in all areas. This is turning from dissapointing start to nightmare very, very quickly.

I think if we panic that's when it will really go tits up, like a leeds situation. Well, no never quite on that level because they ran the club so badly financially. But I think we just need to work on the training ground doing the right things. I'm as shocked as you are this has happened, but that's because it's not a truthful position with the players we have and the manager we have.

So I can't see it not turning around if Ramos stays and continues to work hard with these players. It is very disappointing though and it leaves us chasing things AGAIN. :mad:

Another transition year most probably, lovely. But I will state that if we stick with Ramos I believe the rewards will come. How long that will take is anyone's guess.

[apr82]

ferguson couldn't even do anything with this team!!!!!spurs are truly in shit street!

[wayne wonder]

What's really dissapointing for me mate was how easily the wigan defence ( one of the weakest defences in the PL IMO) dealt most of our attacks.

Yep if we cant get past bramble, boyce et al at home then we have problems

[nuttyhotspurs]

What's really dissapointing for me mate was how easily the wigan defence ( one of the weakest defences in the PL IMO) dealt most of our attacks.

one of the weakest defences? they have only let in 4 goals in 5 games. whats that? the 4th best so far this season?? they havent got any superstars but they look a solid unit. something we don't

[choda]

We got a point at home to Wigan and kept a clean sheet.The season starts here!.Or maybe not.I don't hold out much hope in the battle of the laughing stocks on Wednesday and Redknapp will bollock his players to within an inch of their lives.Pompey will go hell for leather to beat us next week.
I can't believe some of you are falling for that "it will take us 10-15 games to gel properly" shite.ALL premier league teams are expected to hit the ground running these days,regardless of whom the club has bought and sold.Is Ramos saying that the team needs 10-15 games to gel to protect his players from the burden of expectation,or because it will take him 10-15 games to work out his best starting 11 and tactics?.
Whether anyone likes it or not,Tottenham,within it's board and it's supporters,is not a club known for it's patience.And at 10-15 games in,that patience may be at breaking point.

Whether people expect it or not is kind of irrelevant. Sometimes it doesn't happen, especially when a team loses players like Keane and Berbatov. I may seem like an eternal optimist but I'm not, I just believe in Ramos and what he has shown in the past and also in his start at the club.

I was an eternal pessimist last year at this stage because I had very little faith in how Jol was doing things and I couldn't see it being good long term.
That's not how I see it now, but I recognise how low on confidence, cohesion and spirit we are at the moment. It is very worrying.

[rootman69]

I'm more than prepared to give Spurs and Ramos time. The last thing we need to do, is hound out a perfectly good manager at this time.

What are we looking to end up like the barcodes or what??

Start panicing come March if we still ain't improved.

On a lighter note i had a operation today and it seems to have numbed the pain of Spurs shitty.shitty performance. Well something had to!!

[wayne wonder]

I believe we#ll turn it around and if we can pick up scrappy wins all the way thru then so be it the performances come 2nd right about now.

I have faith we#ll turn it round and everyone will be loving ramos if he's given that chance:D

[choda]

ferguson couldn't even do anything with this team!!!!!spurs are truly in shit street!

That's the kind of thinking that does sink big clubs. If we succumb to that then we are truly up sh*ts creek without a paddle.

The players are there, the squad is close to excellent actually, that is why it is so shocking. But there are reasons as stated (so many squad changes, losing Keane and Berba, upheavel, gelling etc.), and this group will grow and grow as a team and in confidence if they are given time with Ramos.

He is no mug, he knows how to build a side and he has brought in his players. He needs one or two more as we all agree but he doesn't need one or two more to start moving us up the table fast. That will happen whenever he gets this team going. I just hope it is sooner rather than later. This really is unfathomable.

[berbzy 'G']

I'm more than prepared to give Spurs and Ramos time. The last thing we need to do, is hound out a perfectly good manager at this time.

What are we looking to end up like the barcodes or what??

Start panicing come March if we still ain't improved.

On a lighter note i had a operation today and it seems to have numbed the pain of Spurs shitty.shitty performance. Well something had to!!

I'd start panicing by christmas if we are still shit.

There is no life in the squad, The players wont even attempt to do anything no more, There is no main man on the pitch that is the cell of the midfield or striker force, There is no player that can cause us that spark that we need to get going on the break, we look like deadwood.

[choda]

I'm more than prepared to give Spurs and Ramos time. The last thing we need to do, is hound out a perfectly good manager at this time.

What are we looking to end up like the barcodes or what??

Start panicing come March if we still ain't improved.

On a lighter note i had a operation today and it seems to have numbed the pain of Spurs shitty.shitty performance. Well something had to!!

That's it... if he walks, is hounded out or sacked then we will be no better than the barcodes. That is how you give yourself no chance and will always remain a joke.

This club has a great past and tradition and if we succumb to utter knee jerking of any sort then we will just be a joke for the foreseeable future.

[Indianspur]

Well time to make some changes and let bent rest, and play the best team!

Ramos will need time, but ledley is ****ed and its time to put corluka as permanent CB as we got a clean sheet at least!
Thing that F*cks me off is that we still dont pick the same players in certain positions and instead chopping and changing. A world class would not do that unless enforced! Surely its time he got his first win!

ill be happy to give him 3 games for the 3 points as its not about 5th place , its seems were in a relegation battle until January until we can get 3 players in!

[apr82]

:confused: That's the kind of thinking that does sink big clubs. If we succumb to that then we are truly up sh*ts creek without a paddle.

The players are there, the squad is close to excellent actually, that is why it is so shocking. But there are reasons as stated (so many squad changes, losing Keane and Berba, upheavel, gelling etc.), and this group will grow and grow as a team and in confidence if they are given time with Ramos.

He is no mug, he knows how to build a side and he has brought in his players. He needs one or two more as we all agree but he doesn't need one or two more to start moving us up the table fast. That will happen whenever he gets this team going. I just hope it is sooner rather than later. This really is unfathomable.

who said spurs were a big club /they used to be a big club!youre obviously looking at a different squad to me.this lot are pub league standard!!

[berbzy 'G']

Well time to make some changes and let bent rest, and play the best team!

Ramos will need time, but ledley is ****ed and its time to put corluka as permanent CB as we got a clean sheet at least!
Thing that F*cks me off is that we still dont pick the same players in certain positions and instead chopping and changing. A world class would not do that unless enforced! Surely its time he got his first win!

ill be happy to give him 3 games for the 3 points as its not about 5th place , its seems were in a relegation battle until January until we can get 3 players in!

Why does everyone say the same thing that Ramos needs time, I'm not having a dig, But Ramos has had all summer to get the sales and player incomes done n dusted for the start of the season, Infact, he still hasnt streghtened our weakest areas... Ramos is to blame for this appauling start just as much as those useless c*nts wearing the Spurs shirt.

[apr82]

Why does everyone say the same thing that Ramos needs time, I'm not having a dig, But Ramos has had all summer to get the sales and player incomes done n dusted for the start of the season, Infact, he still hasnt streghtened our weakest areas... Ramos is to blame for this appauling start just as much as those useless c*nts wearing the Spurs shirt.

you forgot levy and comolli!

[denis-cro]

I´m so dissapointed at this time, that I would be pleased with 17th place at the end of the season. Next two games we´re playing are against totaly ****ed Newcastle who are at same situation that we are and properly humiliated Pompey so I dont expect any favors from those two teams...

[ronseyward]

Won 3 times since the Carling Cup - that's a statistic that shows we don't know what we are doing !

This was so poor - no graft no effort - no passion - this is not Tottenham

To Dare is to do - when was the last time this team did that?

How the hell do we turn it round - it's not Ramos - it's the Club there is something wrong - something doesn't ring true

[Indianspur]

Theres players who have been at the club for 2 weeks really. untill all players have had 10 games together then we can start giving them shit!!

On a brighter note our first clean sheet of the season!!

[SunDog]

Havent seen the game yet, will watch MOTD later cause I'm sadistic like that.

What I will say about our position, it reflects our play and is currently a true indication. However that is a positive, if we had played well, our new players had looked like they had always worn lily white and we were playing fast free flowing football and were still bottom THEN I would be worried.

The fact we aren't playing well and are bottom shows we are where we should be, and that hopefully as we do get better then we will move up to a more prominent position. I truely beleive it will start to get better, and when it does it will stay better. We arent going to have a wonderful season, but we should eventually have a solid one, and hopefully one which can be built on.

Just had a gulp of drink btw and my glass is still half full :p :D

[berbzy 'G']

Our problem is we got very over confident at the beggining of the season to gatecrash the top 4... thats whats f*cked us up.

[peterc]

[QUOTE=denis-cro;104094]WTF is Ramos donig with this team ????????[QUOTE] Bale is 25 times better at full back than he is as LM... Assouu-Ekotto is shit !!!!!!![/

I was at the game today and I can assure you it was the complete opposite, Bale had a mare of a game whilst Ekotto plsyed well.

[denis-cro]

I was at the game today and I can assure you it was the complete opposite, Bale had a mare of a game whilst Ekotto plsyed well.

As I have wrote... Bale is much better if plays as full back instead as left midfielder ( Playing Bale as LM is total waste of his talent )... I believe that we would have been more dangerous if Bale played as FB and someone else ( Lennon, GDS ) as LM....

[peterc]

Positive points on today's performance was the defence looked much better but unfortunately we lack the finishing touch,, midfield wasn't that brilliant however, we have seen worse performances this season in that department, it is now getting to the very worrying stage, two points out of five games and mostly against mediocre teams is appalling.

[peterc]

As I have wrote... Bale is much better if plays as full back instead as left midfielder ( Playing Bale as LM is total waste of his talent )... I believe that we would have been more dangerous if Bale played as FB and someone else ( Lennon, GDS ) as LM....

Sorry mate, did not read it properly, still annoyed with most of our display Today.

[gavster]

I agree. Ramos has had all summer to get the players to play as a team. We are completely in trouble,im so gutted and annoyed that we're not doing anything,its just upsetting to see our team perform well under par.2 points in 5 games is S**T.Everyone keeps saying its early days,no F*****G way,its now we start performing or the seasons over before we start and the Championship League is our next Trophy we'll be getting(next season)!Dont get me wrong Spurs are in my blood,but I am just so upset to see us doing so C**P,if in next few games we get no result maybe its time to start calling on Levy and Ramos to get out,maybe we need help just like Manchester City did and now look at them!!So? Levy and Ramos,tell us what you plan to do now!

[peterc]

I agree. Ramos has had all summer to get the players to play as a team. We are completely in trouble,im so gutted and annoyed that we're not doing anything,its just upsetting to see our team perform well under par.1 point in 5 games is S**T.Everyone keeps saying its early days,no F*****G way,its now we start performing or the seasons over before we start and the Championship League is our next Trophy we'll be getting(next season)!Dont get me wrong Spurs are in my blood,but I am just so upset to see us doing so C**P,if in next few games we get no result maybe its time to start calling on Levy and Ramos to get out,maybe we need help just like Manchester City did and now look at them!!So? Levy and Ramos,tell us what you plan to do now!

It's actually two points mate ;), but I agree it is annoying and embarrassing to see us play way under par and we all know that we do have a good group of players who are definitely capable of performing much, much better.

[Mattyboii]

I agree. Ramos has had all summer to get the players to play as a team. We are completely in trouble,im so gutted and annoyed that we're not doing anything,its just upsetting to see our team perform well under par.2 points in 5 games is S**T.Everyone keeps saying its early days,no F*****G way,its now we start performing or the seasons over before we start and the Championship League is our next Trophy we'll be getting(next season)!Dont get me wrong Spurs are in my blood,but I am just so upset to see us doing so C**P,if in next few games we get no result maybe its time to start calling on Levy and Ramos to get out,maybe we need help just like Manchester City did and now look at them!!So? Levy and Ramos,tell us what you plan to do now!
Tbh you cant say hes had all summer, as the last day transfers like berba
plus they are just pre season friendlies and they are a different level
the only thing that pisses me off is that we beat celtic 2 nil and mash As Roma who in my mind are a brilliant team, so why the **** cant we beat wigan, sunderland and all that teams, are they just being understimated this season or are we asking too much? give em time i agree and it isnt ramos' fault, its only partial, we all know he can play better teams, but he must know what hes doing. ah i dont know what im sayin

[TURKISH]

Just got back from the game and it was dull as hell apart from parklane and the shelf singing we are tottenham super tottenham for like 20minutes nonestop!

Bale was poor for once.

Corluka and woody look good at the back. Gomes was great. Benoit was ok and zokora was great untill he overlapped bentley and didn't know what to do.

Bentley was shite crossing awful and allmost seems he is trying to hard. Jenas was poor but wasn't our worst performer imo. Jamie is great in a tackle but apart from that he offers very little, passing was awful today and so was his movement.

Pav looks shit and couldn't win a header all day! Needs time but i would start campbell with bent.

My only swipe at ramos is why bring on hudd when we need a goal? He nearly cost us a goal when he let sharner run past him and than decided to mark woody instead of picking up scharner when he was running into the box when wigan player was about to cross.

[Indianspur]

He needs to play a balanced team and not a team full of superstars!!
Lets try not to think about King anymore as he's just a liability and we have to surely find a full time replacement and let him recover for a whole season or retire!

my team for next game going on current form also!

gomes

gunter corluka woodgate Bale

Lennon ohara jenas dos santos

Bent Campbell


i would bring on Bentley, and modric 2nd half. these boys just need some games from the bench to learn a little as they are still young with a lot of pressure from their values!
Look a Nani and anderson they cost roughly the same amount but still dont get full games regularly.. i know Bentleys more proven but just in poor form so deserves dropping as lennons better at the moment!

[berbzy 'G']

Some people might say they can't wait till January to use the £30 + million from the Berbatov sale on a new player/s...

All that will happen in January when we sign a player is that it will unsettle the squad again, I mean we've got some players at this crucial stage now in the season that have only been here 2 weeks. I'm very nervous.

[Rojoknapp]

Jenas was poor

he really wasn't. He is so much better than people give him credit for. I sit next to a JJ hater and at the start of the game he said he would hit me every time JJ made a mistake or did something bad. He hit me 3 times, and he is a harsh critic. JJ was our best player today, or maybe Woody, but JJ played well.

[Indianspur]

I player of Arshavins quality or a velosa will probably need little time to settle. really have to splash the cash this time. a 10 milllion centreback may help also!

Buying these players maybe difficult in Jan if were in the bottom half though!

[berbzy 'G']

I player of Arshavins quality or a velosa will probably need little time to settle. really have to splash the cash this time. a 10 milllion centreback may help also!

Buying these players maybe difficult in Jan if were in the bottom half though!

We have too many defenders, thats why I was uncomfortable about the Corluka buy... I said all along that we need a CB that is very solid and stable...

[Rojoknapp]

We have too many defenders, thats why I was uncomfortable about the Corluka buy... I said all along that we need a CB that is very solid and stable...

I had high hopes for corluka but until about 70 mins he looked far from very solid and stable :confused: he only improved slightly as the game went on, he wasn't great.... Indianspur, which 10million cb do you want? I don't know how many of that quality are available to us right now....

[berbzy 'G']

I had high hopes for corluka but until about 70 mins he looked far from very solid and stable :confused: he only improved slightly as the game went on, he wasn't great.... Indianspur, which 10million cb do you want? I don't know how many of that quality are available to us right now....

Dont get me wrong, Corluka is a good player, But he likes to get forward too much, we need Martin Laursen/Jolean Lescott

[Indianspur]

Well i was thinking collucini would have been great with woodgate..laursen was so close to signing for us at one time also god his goals and defending would have improved us a lot!
Even nyron nosworthy is looking solid at the moment and your probably right, theres not many good cbs available that would come to spurs!

I think if corluka strugles after a few games there then let gunter have a go!!
He plays there for Wales and does a good job! In reality we will not replace King until he retires and the next best thing maybe to buy a classy DM so we concede less.

[berbzy 'G']

Well i was thinking collucini would have been great with woodgate..laursen was so close to signing for us at one time also god his goals and defending would have improved us a lot!
Even nyron nosworthy is looking solid at the moment and your probably right, theres not many good cbs available that would come to spurs!

I think if corluka strugles after a few games there then let gunter have a go!!
He plays there for Wales and does a good job! In reality we will not replace King until he retires and the next best thing maybe to buy a classy DM so we concede less.

No way, did you see the way he turned his back allowing Di Michele to score the weekend, that kind of put me off him. by the way, Does anybody know what happened to the Argentinian LB Sorin, I ent heard his name mentioned for years now?

[Baleinho]

No way, did you see the way he turned his back allowing Di Michele to score the weekend, that kind of put me off him. by the way, Does anybody know what happened to the Argentinian LB Sorin, I ent heard his name mentioned for years now?

Ironically I think he plays for HSV. He was there at the beginning of last season, so Im not 100% sure

[TURKISH]

he really wasn't. He is so much better than people give him credit for. I sit next to a JJ hater and at the start of the game he said he would hit me every time JJ made a mistake or did something bad. He hit me 3 times, and he is a harsh critic. JJ was our best player today, or maybe Woody, but JJ played well.

Mmmmmm yer il give you that actually im not a jj hater actually i rate him! LOL. We should stick togeather mate!

[wayne wonder]

Ironically I think he plays for HSV. He was there at the beginning of last season, so Im not 100% sure

He's on a free transfer at the min i think:confused:

Surely we could pick up Stephen Appiah and i'd take a fat ronaldo over any striker we have at the min!!

[Spur]

Spurs Od Player Grades:

Spurs v Wigan
Date: 21.09.08
Score: 0-0
Full Match Report

Player Grades
(Marks out of 10)

Gomes 6
Zokora 6
Corluka 7
Woodgate 6
Ekotto 5
Bentley 4
Jenas 4
O'Hara 6
Bale 6
Pavlyuchenko 5
Bent 5


Substitutes:-

Sanchez -
Gunter -
Gilberto -
Huddlestone 5
Lennon 7
Giovani -
Campbell 7

[choda]

He's on a free transfer at the min i think:confused:

Surely we could pick up Stephen Appiah and i'd take a fat ronaldo over any striker we have at the min!!

Yup, why don't we sign them. Ronaldo will want big wages but he will score goals, he always does. Just be sure to mention that there are many good prossies in London and he will probably come here instead of city.

Appiah is a strong midfielder, the kind we need.

[berbzy 'G']

Yup, why don't we sign them. Ronaldo will want big wages but he will score goals, he always does. Just be sure to mention there are many good prossies in London and he will probably come here instead of city.

Appiah is a strong midfielder, the kind we need.

We need Diarra :cool:

[SunDog]

We need Diarra :cool:

Wasnt that what caused us to lose to spamers and finish 5th :p

[berbzy 'G']

Wasnt that what caused us to lose to spamers and finish 5th :p

I remember that day we had the shits well :(

[choda]

We need Diarra :cool:

We do but it wouldn't stop me going all out to get Appiah too. And a large point being that he is available right now. With Diarra you will have to wait until January at the earliest.

[Rojoknapp]

is appiah the answer to all our problems at the moment?/ surely he can't be hugely fit??

[jrio]

is appiah the answer to all our problems at the moment?/ surely he can't be hugely fit??
He's had long-term knee injuries. As we let Tainio go because of similar issues, it's unlikely we'd be looking to bring in a player with the same uncertainties.