What do you hope will happen on the transfer front in the next week...

[choda]

Right well, I want realistic comments not Villa and Eto plus Henry, Terry and Essien or shit like that.

My hope is that we sign Veloso, Guarin, Del A Red or any other class defensive midfielder with physical presence.

And a top centre back for cover like Jarque and any one of 20 good centre halfs we have been linked to. I'd even like to sign Paul Scharner or somebody like that as a fourth one just as extra cover and in case we fail getting a third one. He's a solid prem performer.

I like Corluka and he seems to have all the ability, but he always impresses me going forward and on the ball. If we sign him I hope he is also good at defending as well as I do have some questions about that.

I'd like for us to buy two strikers as well, one like this Falcoa guy Juande has reportedly been tracking since his Sevilla days and is very like Robbie Keane and 22, 7 million and a target man/on the shoulder fox in the box to play with him and bang the goals in like Huntelaar.

As a bonus I'd absolutely love to get Arshavin and he can play wing or second striker, but I am wary of buying him and not buying a dm.

In short a team with King/Jarque etc. at cb, Veloso as the dm, Falcoa (I'm trusting reports on his huge ability)/Arshavin in the hole, Huntelaar up top to add the current side is my ideal (that is the current side I think Ramos should be picking as I didn't like the decisions he made in the first two games).

[berbzy 'G']

Right well, I want realistic comments not Villa and Eto plus Henry, Terry and Essien or shit like that.

My hope is that we sign Veloso, Guarin, Del A Red or any other class defensive midfielder with physical presence.

And a top centre back for cover like Jarque and any one of 20 good centre halfs we have been linked to. I'd even like to sign Paul Scharner or somebody like that as a fourth one just as extra cover and in case we fail getting a third one. He's a solid prem performer.

I like Corluka and he seems to have all the ability, but he always impresses me going forward and on the ball. If we sign him I hope he is also good at defending as well as I do have some questions about that.

I'd like for us to buy two strikers as well, one like this Falcoa guy Juande has reportedly been tracking since his Sevilla days and is very like Robbie Keane and 22, 7 million and a target man/on the shoulder fox in the box to play with him and bang the goals in like Huntelaar.

As a bonus I'd absolutely love to get Arshavin and he can play wing or second striker, but I am wary of buying him and not buying a dm.

In short a team with King/Jarque etc. at cb, Veloso as the dm, Falcoa (I'm trusting reports on his huge ability)/Arshavin in the hole, Huntelaar up top to add the current side is my ideal.

That is the side I think Ramos should be picking as I didn't like the decisions he made in the first two games.

thank **** someone has opened a thread with such brilliance :cool:

I completely agree with you on Corluka, He is good going forward, But we need a solid CB that can knock balls out of the box all day long! Cuellar would be absolutely perfect, But has only just gone to Aston Villa. So hopefuly we will purchase a Richard Dunne/Martin Laursen kind of defender...

[Lilywhite Lad]

Right well, I want realistic comments not Villa and Eto plus Henry, Terry and Essien or shit like that.

My hope is that we sign Veloso, Guarin, Del A Red or any other class defensive midfielder with physical presence.

And a top centre back for cover like Jarque and any one of 20 good centre halfs we have been linked to. I'd even like to sign Paul Scharner or somebody like that as a fourth one just as extra cover and in case we fail getting a third one. He's a solid prem performer.

I like Corluka and he seems to have all the ability, but he always impresses me going forward and on the ball. If we sign him I hope he is also good at defending as well as I do have some questions about that.

I'd like for us to buy two strikers as well, one like this Falcoa guy Juande has reportedly been tracking since his Sevilla days and is very like Robbie Keane and 22, 7 million and a target man/on the shoulder fox in the box to play with him and bang the goals in like Huntelaar.

As a bonus I'd absolutely love to get Arshavin and he can play wing or second striker, but I am wary of buying him and not buying a dm.In short a team with King/Jarque etc. at cb, Veloso as the dm, Falcoa (I'm trusting reports on his huge ability)/Arshavin in the hole, Huntelaar up top to add the current side is my ideal (that is the current side I think Ramos should be picking as I didn't like the decisions he made in the first two games).

Yeah, i think a DM needs to have priority right now. I like the sound of Falcao, and if he is like Robbie Keane, then we should snap him up, as he's younger and has a great goal-scoring ability by the sound of it. I'm sick of the Arshavin saga now, it feels like it has been going on for years, one day the deal is off, and the next day, it is apparently back on, so as much as i'd like Arshavin, we need to sort something out about this soon, or we risk getting so woundup in this, that we lose our focus of the tasks in hand. If we can't get a deal sorted for Arshavin though, then we need to focus on getting someone who could be possibly be a bit younger, yet have similar attributes to Arshavin, and have the ability to be a top goal-scorer.

[gomessi]

for me it depends on how ramos wants to play his strikers. If he wants a lone striker system using bent so far has proved a failure.

If we do get 2 stikers and play 442 then arshavin would have to play wide left. Using arshavin as a number 10 in the berbatov position is risky IMO because we need someone to put the ball in the net (arshavin hets 1 goal every 4 games).

The falcao guy looks very good. However expecting him to do a berbatov is asking a lot IMO. Play him with bent and you would get the best out of him.
Bent has no link up skills or vision so using him there will prove to be a complete failure, falcao has good vision and could be the suppl for bent in a 442.

The options I would look at for striker:

Falcao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKRbTCxdQJA (never seen this guy play but he is very highly rated)

Fabiano - 2nd top scorer in spain, is very good in the air and has good vision (not berbatov level but miles better than bent)

Kanoute- you lot are probably going to say he is rubbish. But if you followed kanoute in spain you would have realised he has improved under ramos massively. Closest thing to a berbatov replacement. His record of 43 goals in 94 games is very impressive.
In his first season 05-06 I though kanoute was just the same as he was at spurs. However over the last 2 seasons ramos has literally transformed kanoute into a goal scoring machine. 56 goals in 90 games. Only downside is he is 31 and levy wouldn't allow us to buy him back for a big fee.

ricardo oliviera - will be hard to buy because after joining zaragoza on loan was bought on a permanent deal from ac milan for £7m. An offer of 10-12m might tempt zaragoza. Same age as keane and scored 2 more goals than him. A number 9 could get us 15-20 goals.

diego milito- we seem to have lost interest in him. dissapoointed because I think he can play as a lone stiker. There is no striker in spain who is as good as he is in the air.

Huntelaar is just pure fantasy. he will be off to real madrid for £20m sooner or later. Real madrid like their dutch players van nistleroy, drenthe, sneijder,vdv,robben.

De la red is good call but real madrid wouldn't consider selling him unless we offered crazy money. He actually looked more impressive in a play making role for getafe then in a dm role. So he could be a risk if you think he is our midfield enforcer. He is miles better than jenas, JOH and hudd but I am not sure if he is the best partner for modric.

Modric needs a water carrier next to him. If I was ramos I would break the bank and get in lassana diarra. Quality player and the perfect partner for modric. If we cant afford that get in frings.

The veloso deal seems dead so I havent mentioned him (he would also cost a fortune).

[denis-cro]

At this point I just want that board sell ****ing Bulgarian ****, and that Ramos starts future games with 4-4-2 formation with all players playing at their nominal positions....I do not have any other wishes... :confused:
It would be nice to bring in some strikers of Villa/Huntelaar caliber as a replacements for Keane and "****", but we´ll probably end up with Kevin Doyle, Emil Heskey or similar players, cause there´s no time left to negotiate with big names...

[lol]

just 4 will be good enough

'Spurs sign ZSP star player'

'Corluka set to sign for spurs'

'Ramos: Berba will stay'

'Spurs agree to 25million deal for veloso'

[lol]

sry double post

[hastingsyid]

sry double post

lol............................................

[olly27]

Hunterlaar would be a sensation I think, would love him. Havnt seen this Farco. We should have gone in for Diara, exactly what we need...no messing about we know he cuts it in the Prem. I really would have gone full out to get him.

Watching the Pompey Manure game as I speak, or type should I say, and Pompey look huge all over the pitch. We have no steel at all, we are far to leight weight as a team...where's the muscle?

Still would like to see Corluka come.

If I had my way I would buy Micah Richards...but I know that aint realistic, as you would be looking at 20 mil plus and his wages are probably too high (not sure about that) We seriosuly need some presence, serious presence....we are just too dam easy to get the ball off and not hard enough to retrieve it. We are brittle all over midfield and defence.

This is what I would love;

Lescott....very good player right across the back, and seriosuly powerful with very good ability and the versatility which is invaluable.

Diarra....Would give is steel in the middle of the park, a real ball winner and would provide that protection to the back four we so desparetly need.

Hunterlaar....would be an unbelievable signing. Couldn't see him being anything other than a big hit.

Another striker like this Farco. Havnt see him play...but we will need another forward who isnt as costly.

You would be looking at around 45 - 50 mil for that lot - getting 25 mil plus for Berba**** - net spending around the 20 - 25 mil mark. In my eyes that would strengthen us considerably....unfortunately I can see only one of those signings happening (and it aint the first three!) - but you never know!

[gomessi]

Hunterlaar would be a sensation I think, would love him. Havnt seen this Farco. We should have gone in for Diara, exactly what we need...no messing about we know he cuts it in the Prem. I really would have gone full out to get him.

Watching the Pompey Manure game as I speak, or type should I say, and Pompey look huge all over the pitch. We have no steel at all, we are far to leight weight as a team...where's the muscle?

Still would like to see Corluka come.

If I had my way I would to buy Micah Richards...but I know that aint realistic, as you would be looking at 20 mil plus and his wages are probably too high (not sure about that) We seriosuly need some presence, serious presence....we are just too dam easy to get the ball off and not hard enough to retrieve it. We are brittle all over midfield and defence.

This is what I would love;

Lescott....very good player right across the back, and seriosuly powerful with very good ability and the versatility which is invaluable.

Diarra....Would give is steel in the middle of the park, a real ball winner and would provide that protection to the back four we so desparetly need.

Hunterlaar....would be an unbelievable signing. Couldn't see him being anything other than a big hit.

Another striker like this Farco. Havnt see him play...but we will need another forward who isnt as costly.

You would be looking at around 45 mil for that lot - getting 25 mil plus for Berba**** - net spending around the 20 mil mark. In my eyes that would strengthen us considerably....unfortunately I can see only one of those signings happening (and it aint the first three!) - but you never know!

would love those 3 + arshavin. however I'm not sure if those players would want to come to us. In the case of huntelaar he is good enough to play for real madrid and man u so would be very difficult to sign. Still we can dream. Hope levy doesnt mess things up

[olly27]

would love those 3 + arshavin. however I'm not sure if those players would want to come to us. In the case of huntelaar he is good enough to play for real madrid and man u so would be very difficult to sign. Still we can dream. Hope levy doesnt mess things up

Yeah I still want Arshavin, but there other priorities in my eyes.

[hastingsyid]

first thing to sort out is a dm,we are too lightweight in midfiled and as much as i love the hudd hes like a ****ing fanny when it comes to tackling and getting stuck in,**** berbatov off asap and go all out and sign a top top striker ****ing hell im not asking for a million a year to ****ing understand what we need

[SurreySpur]

Every sucessful team needs a player in the middle with a nasty streak. That has to be our priority along with another striker.

[Falkom]

Out - Berbatov, Prince-Boateng, Ekotto, Lee, Stalteri & Ghaly.
In - Arshavin, Pavlyuchenko, Corluka & Veloso

But I bet that in the end of the week we have to be satisfied with Emil Heskey... :-(

[hastingsyid]

if we ****ing sign heskey i will have all my yid tattoos covered over with pics of ricky h

[Falkom]

if we ****ing sign heskey i will have all my yid tattoos covered over with pics of ricky h

:D

If I had any tottoos I would do the same...

[olly27]

if we ****ing sign heskey i will have all my yid tattoos covered over with pics of ricky h

Could you imagine it...selling Berbatov and buying Heskey...we would be the biggest laughing stock in the league..

[hastingsyid]

**** sake perish the thought

[MarlowSpurs]

Could always sign dean ashton, that should keep hastings happy hahahaha

[hastingsyid]

pikey **** **** him

[berbzy 'G']

or Boa Morte

[gomessi]

ashtons would be a lot better than bent playing as a lone striker. (that doesn't say much though).

getting heskey though would make me suicidal. Just watched finishing the pompey vs man u game and jamie redkanpp keeps on saying we are a selling club.:mad: Keane and berba have behaved like ****s what are we supposed to do?

[olly27]

pikey **** **** him

Pretty much the way I see it to...lol.....

[wayne wonder]

ashtons would be a lot better than bent playing as a lone striker. (that doesn't say much though).

getting heskey though would make me suicidal. Just watched finishing the pompey vs man u game and jamie redkanpp keeps on saying we are a selling club.:mad: Keane and berba have behaved like ****s what are we supposed to do?

He's a prick but he's right!! it goes way back to the likes of waddle!!

We sold carrick, keane, berbs on his way

[Ioang]

Lassana Diarra for £13m, Not sure quite what's going on but Pompey seem totally strapped for cash and Harry sometimes loves a bargain a bit too much.

One of Huntelaar, Forlan, Militio. Probably Militio if i'm being honest.

Possibly Arshavin, bit bored of that one though tbh.

Corluka.

That would be an ideal last transfer week.

(leave us with something like this:)

-------------------GOMES-------------------
---------------------------------------------
CORLUKA------KING------WOODGATE-----BALE
---------------------------------------------
-------------------DIARRA=------------------
-----------------------------JENAS----------
--------------MODRIC-----------------------
---------------------------------------------
BENTLEY------------------------ARSHAVIN---
---------------------------------------------
--------------------MILITIO------------------

[choda]

for me it depends on how ramos wants to play his strikers. If he wants a lone striker system using bent so far has proved a failure.

If we do get 2 stikers and play 442 then arshavin would have to play wide left. Using arshavin as a number 10 in the berbatov position is risky IMO because we need someone to put the ball in the net (arshavin hets 1 goal every 4 games).

The falcao guy looks very good. However expecting him to do a berbatov is asking a lot IMO. Play him with bent and you would get the best out of him.
Bent has no link up skills or vision so using him there will prove to be a complete failure, falcao has good vision and could be the suppl for bent in a 442.

The options I would look at for striker:

Falcao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKRbTCxdQJA (never seen this guy play but he is very highly rated)

Fabiano - 2nd top scorer in spain, is very good in the air and has good vision (not berbatov level but miles better than bent)

Kanoute- you lot are probably going to say he is rubbish. But if you followed kanoute in spain you would have realised he has improved under ramos massively. Closest thing to a berbatov replacement. His record of 43 goals in 94 games is very impressive.
In his first season 05-06 I though kanoute was just the same as he was at spurs. However over the last 2 seasons ramos has literally transformed kanoute into a goal scoring machine. 56 goals in 90 games. Only downside is he is 31 and levy wouldn't allow us to buy him back for a big fee.

ricardo oliviera - will be hard to buy because after joining zaragoza on loan was bought on a permanent deal from ac milan for £7m. An offer of 10-12m might tempt zaragoza. Same age as keane and scored 2 more goals than him. A number 9 could get us 15-20 goals.

diego milito- we seem to have lost interest in him. dissapoointed because I think he can play as a lone stiker. There is no striker in spain who is as good as he is in the air.

Huntelaar is just pure fantasy. he will be off to real madrid for £20m sooner or later. Real madrid like their dutch players van nistleroy, drenthe, sneijder,vdv,robben.

De la red is good call but real madrid wouldn't consider selling him unless we offered crazy money. He actually looked more impressive in a play making role for getafe then in a dm role. So he could be a risk if you think he is our midfield enforcer. He is miles better than jenas, JOH and hudd but I am not sure if he is the best partner for modric.

Modric needs a water carrier next to him. If I was ramos I would break the bank and get in lassana diarra. Quality player and the perfect partner for modric. If we cant afford that get in frings.

The veloso deal seems dead so I havent mentioned him (he would also cost a fortune).

That's an excellent post mate. I have just one argument... when you said Arshavin scored 1 in 4 games. Yes, that is true but he has spent most of his career on the wing, so that is almost fully a winger stat. If he played in the hole that could well be significantly different.

I do see him as more of a creator than a scorer but that may not be a bad thing. There have been many brilliant players like that in the hole over the years and they brought everything together for the teams they played for. It's the effect on the team that is most important as opposed to out and out individual stats. And if we get him and another we have the option to play him on the wing where last year he was lethal for Zenit.

[Keanoldinho]

4 more players is what I'd like as I believe now Berba is definately off.

CB Corluka
DM De Jong
CF Arshavin
ST Zigic

I'd be happy with that but I doubt we'll even get 2 in tbh

[Woodgate39]

Get in to tha club a big strong striker who can hold da ball up but also stick em away like Beattie, Zigic or Heskey and an experienced DM who will add abit of muscle to da midfield like Yorke or Frings.

[Keanoldinho]

Get in to tha club a big strong striker who can hold da ball up but also stick em away like Beattie, Zigic or Heskey and an experienced DM who will add abit of muscle to da midfield like Yorke or Frings.


LMFAO :D no the **** you didn't

you don't mean who I think you mean do you?????


LLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL :D

[Woodgate39]

hes a class act, his passing is awesome... watched da arsenal vs sunlun game last day of tha season and he ran tha show, his passing n compusure was tha best on show n he won MOTM. and hes built like a brick shithouse.

[Keanoldinho]

hes a class act, his passing is awesome... watched da arsenal vs sunlun game last day of tha season and he ran tha show, his passing n compusure was tha best on show n he won MOTM. and hes built like a brick shithouse.


jog on mate you're taking the piss Dwight fecking Yorke is ancient. His legs are gone and he's done. ffs if we bought him as our DM I'd quit supporting Tottenham.

[olly27]

jog on mate you're taking the piss Dwight fecking Yorke is ancient. His legs are gone and he's done. ffs if we bought him as our DM I'd quit supporting Tottenham.

He's the one player I met. When I lived in New York I met him and his 5 brothers, who live in Queens, in a bar on the 3rd avenue. This was in June 1999, just after United won the trebble. He was actually pretty sound, bought me a beer like and his brothers were really sound...he then says to me could I recommend a good club..I said we were going to Webster hall which was round the corner and he actually came with us, him and his brothers...Ian, one of his brothers was a right laugh. ****ing brillant night, one of the girls I lived with went back to the Sheridan with him in Times Square...dirty slapper!!! Actually I had slept with her already...so Dwight got my sloppy seconds!!;)

Fisrt thing I said to him when I met him was...'hows Mark?!' as in Bosnich...after that hole sex scandal thing...he saw the funny side...

[jrio]

hes a class act, his passing is awesome... watched da arsenal vs sunlun game last day of tha season and he ran tha show, his passing n compusure was tha best on show n he won MOTM. and hes built like a brick shithouse.

Not too hard to understand why you were watching that game, is it? It's probably best if hastingsyid is the one who decides when the amusement has run its course and you get banned.

[choda]

He's the one player I met. When I lived in New York I met him and his 5 brothers, who live in Queens, in a bar on the 3rd avenue. This was in June 1999, just after United won the trebble. He was actually pretty sound, bought me a beer like and his brothers were really sound...he then says to me could I recommend a good club..I said we were going to Webster hall which was round the corner and he actually came with us, him and his brothers...Ian, one of his brothers was a right laugh. ****ing brillant night, one of the girls I lived with went back to the Sheridan with him in Times Square...dirty slapper!!! Actually I had slept with her already...so Dwight got my sloppy seconds!!;)

Fisrt thing I said to him when I met him was...'hows Mark?!' as in Bosnich...after that hole sex scandal thing...he saw the funny side...

LOL, that's the best thing I've heard all week.

[gomessi]

That's an excellent post mate. I have just one argument... when you said Arshavin scored 1 in 4 games. Yes, that is true but he has spent most of his career on the wing, so that is almost fully a winger stat. If he played in the hole that could well be significantly different.

I do see him as more of a creator than a scorer but that may not be a bad thing. There have been many brilliant players like that in the hole over the years and they brought everything together for the teams they played for. It's the effect on the team that is most important as opposed to out and out individual stats. And if we get him and another we have the option to play him on the wing where last year he was lethal for Zenit.

I agree with that 100%. Arshavin is a creator, one of the best in the world. Look at my previous posts I have never said arshavin is less than world class- he will be perfect for spurs.

My worry is if bent doesn't have the skill and technique to play the lone stiker role we need someone to play that role to get the best out of all our creative talents like bentley, modric, gio and arshavin.

At the sunderland game bentley put in at least 4 crosses that were crying out to be put into the net. Bent is more of a poacher but I found it worrying he wasnt near those bentley crosses.

What I am trying to say is we need to score goals, essentially it doesnt matter if we create 10 chances per game if they are not put into the net. Arshavin will create chance after chance for the team but who will put them into the net?

Hence why a player like huntelaar is worth a fortune, he puts the ball in the net and has decent vision and link up skills. Same goes for kanoute (he has been doing this for 2 years).

Ramos might be thinking of playing:

Lone striker
arshavin
gio modric dm bentley
bale cb wood hutton

as you can see that team gives arshavin a free role in which he can be devastating. However if arshavin slips balls into the path of our midfield players and striker they will need to finish those chances.

Look at last season:
Bentley 6 premier league goals

Gio 4 la liga goals

Modric played in a shit league hence he scored at a good ratio (1 every 4) - but modric was bought to dictate the tempo of a match so I think he will probably contribute 5-8 goals.

dm - 1 or 2 goals.

If arshavin comes in we will need someone upfront who puts the ball in the net and can play as a lone striker.

Huntelaar-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDWhf81iQfk
- look at the way he finishes off crosses. Can you imagine how many he would score from bale and bentley service, add that to arshavins passes he could potentially score 20-25 per season.

another good huntelaar goal compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIIGScglFCE

Kanoute: he is the nearest thing there is to berbatov. Not as good but would cost less than a third of the berbatov price. 56 goals in his last 90 games for seville is world class.

In his first season he scored 13 goals next season he scored 30 goals, last season he scored 26 goals. He holds the ball up brilliantly and brings others into play as well.

Watch this and tell me if you think kanoute can do a good job for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrYnaR_Er4Y
goal number 5 was against us - class player

ramos turned kanoute into a brilliant player, ask any spurs do you think kanoue could score 25 goals, most would say no. He has done this for the last 2 seasons.
Watch this and you will see he can FINISH chances he gets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNIJZPf4KkU

I would be happy to see our team look like this against chelsea.

Kanoute/Huntelaar
arshavin
gio modric diarra/frings/veloso bentley
bale corluka woodgate gunter

4-4-1-1 is perfect for arshavin IMO. The number 9 (kanoute/huntelaar will link up play and put the ball in the net).

[choda]

I agree with that 100%. Arshavin is a creator, one of the best in the world. Look at my previous posts I have never said arshavin is less than world class- he will be perfect for spurs.

My worry is if bent doesn't have the skill and technique to play the lone stiker role we need someone to play that role to get the best out of all our creative talents like bentley, modric, gio and arshavin.

At the sunderland game bentley put in at least 4 crosses that were crying out to be put into the net. Bent is more of a poacher but I found it worrying he wasnt near those bentley crosses.

What I am trying to say is we need to score goals, essentially it doesnt matter if we create 10 chances per game if they are not put into the net. Arshavin will create chance after chance for the team but who will put them into the net?

Hence why a player like huntelaar is worth a fortune, he puts the ball in the net and has decent vision and link up skills. Same goes for kanoute (he has been doing this for 2 years).

Ramos might be thinking of playing:

Lone striker
arshavin
gio modric dm bentley
bale cb wood hutton

as you can see that team gives arshavin a free role in which he can be devastating. However if arshavin slips balls into the path of our midfield players and striker they will need to finish those chances.

Look at last season:
Bentley 6 premier league goals

Gio 4 la liga goals

Modric played in a shit league hence he scored at a good ratio (1 every 4) - but modric was bought to dictate the tempo of a match so I think he will probably contribute 5-8 goals.

dm - 1 or 2 goals.

If arshavin comes in we will need someone upfront who puts the ball in the net and can play as a lone striker.

Huntelaar-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDWhf81iQfk
- look at the way he finishes off crosses. Can you imagine how many he would score from bale and bentley service, add that to arshavins passes he could potentially score 20-25 per season.

another good huntelaar goal compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIIGScglFCE

Kanoute: he is the nearest thing there is to berbatov. Not as good but would cost less than a third of the berbatov price. 56 goals in his last 90 games for seville is world class.

In his first season he scored 13 goals next season he scored 30 goals, last season he scored 26 goals. He holds the ball up brilliantly and brings others into play as well.

Watch this and tell me if you think kanoute can do a good job for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrYnaR_Er4Y
goal number 5 was against us - class player

ramos turned kanoute into a brilliant player, ask any spurs do you think kanoue could score 25 goals, most would say no. He has done this for the last 2 seasons.
Watch this and you will see he can FINISH chances he gets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNIJZPf4KkU

I would be happy to see our team look like this against chelsea.

Kanoute/Huntelaar
arshavin
gio modric diarra/frings/veloso bentley
bale corluka woodgate gunter

4-4-1-1 is perfect for arshavin IMO. The number 9 (kanoute/huntelaar will link up play and put the ball in the net).

What I would do is buy a cb, a dm, Arshavin and Huntelaar and play Gio and Smoothbum as wing forwards with Bentley in the middle with Modric and the dm. I feel we need to play that system with the players we have.

I honestly think we haven't helped Bent at all in the last two games. They have to understand what he does.

They played him the balls he thrives on in pre-season, got up around him and look what happened. You might say it was only pre-season but the point is he finished everything we gave him superbly and we brought him into the general play. And he was played in by Charlton and looked what happened. That was up on his own as well.

We have just been very poor in the last two games. I mean Bent is in a sticky situation, unlike Keane and Berba were starting last year, as they had a glittering history at spurs, and even they got dogs abuse at the start, but they just got no service for the first 4 games, what so ever. When they got it Keane started banging them in, and lazyboy didn't until December time, but that's another story.

You might say Bent could come short at least some of the time, I do, but even Keane and Berb couldn't do anything much even TOGETHER, in the first four games last year. They were so isolated and we got no good ball to them at all.

Now, I stated last year that I thought this was the case, it didn't look right and it doesn't look right at the moment either. There is a difference between bad service and support and playing badly. I'm not going to write off Bent I still think he can bang the goals in.

[Keanoldinho]

What I would do is buy a cb, a dm, Arshavin and Huntelaar and play Gio and Smoothbum as wing forwards with Bentley in the middle with Modric and the dm. I feel we need to play that system with the players we have.

I honestly think we haven't helped Bent at all in the last two games. They have to understand what he does.

They played him the balls he thrives on in pre-season, got up around him and look what happened. You might say it was only pre-season but the point is he finished everything we gave him superbly and we brought him into the general play. And he was played in by Charlton and looked what happened. That was up on his own as well.

We have just been very poor in the last two games. I mean Bent is in a sticky situation, unlike Keane and Berba were starting last year, as they had a glittering history at spurs, and even they got dogs abuse at the start, but they just got no service for the first 4 games, what so ever. When they got it Keane started banging them in, and lazyboy didn't until December time, but that's another story.

You might say Bent could come short at least some of the time, I do, but even Keane and Berb couldn't do anything much even TOGETHER, in the first four games last year. They were so isolated and we got no good ball to them at all.

Now, I stated last year that I thought this was the case, it didn't look right and it doesn't look right at the moment either. There is a difference between bad service and support and playing badly. I'm not going to write off Bent I still think he can bang the goals in.



Another point to consider about Bent while playing at Charlton is they were crap so teams generally felt they could push up against Charlton and attack which plays to Bents strengths as he'll then have space in behind to exploit on the break.

We on the other hand are viewed as a team that's dangerous on the attack but weak against counters or fast breaks so teams will play deep against us and hit us on the break which doesn't help Bent because if he has no space in behind to exploit he's pretty much useless.

We have no options but hopefully by 1st Sept. we'll have atleast 2 more upfront.

[choda]

Another point to consider about Bent while playing at Charlton is they were crap so teams generally felt they could push up against Charlton and attack which plays to Bents strengths as he'll then have space in behind to exploit on the break.

We on the other hand are viewed as a team that's dangerous on the attack but weak against counters or fast breaks so teams will play deep against us and hit us on the break which doesn't help Bent because if he has no space in behind to exploit he's pretty much useless.

We have no options but hopefully by 1st Sept. we'll have atleast 2 more upfront.

It's a point but I don't think it is a huge factor, unless he turns out to be a right flop. And even without getting a good run to get his confidence and performances going his goals to minutes in competition is still very respectable for us.

I think he has just been very isolated, there have been major changes in staff including Bent becoming first choice and the performances in the first two games have been woeful.

Going back to your point, which I don't dismiss by any means, he may have to adapt as well as the team adapt. One thing you often notice with pretty one dimensional players when they go to a bigger team is that they can't get away with doing one job anymore, they have to be a more developed and rounded player. Saha, Andy Cole and Adebayor are some of many examples of that.

Cole especially went thru a change at united to be able to take up good positions, take the ball feeded into feet and hold it up and bring other players in.

Defoe is someone I would put as someone who failed. But I don't think he had the football brain or the power to add more to his good finishing. Bent does have power and he's not as selfish.

We had it right in the pre-season and he was bringing much more to his game, we just have to get the gearstick to the premier league and he has to show a bit more courage to go outside his comfort zone and develop himself as a footballer. That's what I think anyway.

[choda]

Hunterlaar would be a sensation I think, would love him. Havnt seen this Farco. We should have gone in for Diara, exactly what we need...no messing about we know he cuts it in the Prem. I really would have gone full out to get him.

Watching the Pompey Manure game as I speak, or type should I say, and Pompey look huge all over the pitch. We have no steel at all, we are far to leight weight as a team...where's the muscle?

Still would like to see Corluka come.

If I had my way I would buy Micah Richards...but I know that aint realistic, as you would be looking at 20 mil plus and his wages are probably too high (not sure about that) We seriosuly need some presence, serious presence....we are just too dam easy to get the ball off and not hard enough to retrieve it. We are brittle all over midfield and defence.

This is what I would love;

Lescott....very good player right across the back, and seriosuly powerful with very good ability and the versatility which is invaluable.

Diarra....Would give is steel in the middle of the park, a real ball winner and would provide that protection to the back four we so desparetly need.

Hunterlaar....would be an unbelievable signing. Couldn't see him being anything other than a big hit.

Another striker like this Farco. Havnt see him play...but we will need another forward who isnt as costly.

You would be looking at around 45 - 50 mil for that lot - getting 25 mil plus for Berba**** - net spending around the 20 - 25 mil mark. In my eyes that would strengthen us considerably....unfortunately I can see only one of those signings happening (and it aint the first three!) - but you never know!

I think we did but they wouldn't sell to us and he was happy to go straight into the pompey team with a release clause without causing a big scene going directly to spurs. That's what I heard anyway.

What I would like to do is activate that release clause and offer him lots of money and sell Ramos and spurs to him.

[gomessi]

It's a point but I don't think it is a huge factor, unless he turns out to be a right flop. And even without getting a good run to get his confidence and performances going his goals to minutes in competition is still very respectable for us.

I think he has just been very isolated, there have been major changes in staff including Bent becoming first choice and the performances in the first two games have been woeful.


Going back to your point, which I don't dismiss by any means, he may have to adapt as well as the team adapt. One thing you often notice with pretty one dimensional players when they go to a bigger team is that they can't get away with doing one job anymore, they have to be a more developed and rounded player. Saha, Andy Cole and Adebayor are some of many examples of that.

Cole especially went thru a change at united to be able to take up good positions, take the ball feeded into feet and hold it up and bring other players in.

Defoe is someone I would put as someone who failed. But I don't think he had the football brain or the power to add more to his good finishing. Bent does have power and he's not as selfish.

We had it right in the pre-season and he was bringing much more to his game, we just have to get the gearstick to the premier league and he has to show a bit more courage to go outside his comfort zone and develop himself as a footballer. That's what I think anyway.

Everything you said makes perfect sense but it is a massive risk to rely on bent. If bent is going to be our focal point in attack (like drogba) then he has to be able to bring others into play. If he cant do this we are totally ****ed.

Bent not adapting will lead to fans getting on his back and before you know it he will be getting crucified in the press (as bad as schevchenko) then he will be a liabilty to the side.

Dont underestimate the difference between the playing style of charlton and spurs. Yes he has the pace to get in behind but that will almost be useless especially at home.

I trust ramos thought to get it right.

Seville fans were calling for kanoute to be sold after his first season (13 goals) next season he got 30.

Massive decision that ramos has to get right (if we are playing with a lone striker system).

[choda]

Everything you said makes perfect sense but it is a massive risk to rely on bent. If bent is going to be our focal point in attack (like drogba) then he has to be able to bring others into play. If he cant do this we are totally ****ed.

Bent not adapting will lead to fans getting on his back and before you know it he will be getting crucified in the press (as bad as schevchenko) then he will be a liabilty to the side.

Dont underestimate the difference between the playing style of charlton and spurs. Yes he has the pace to get in behind but that will almost be useless especially at home.

I trust ramos thought to get it right.

Seville fans were calling for kanoute to be sold after his first season (13 goals) next season he got 30.

Massive decision that ramos has to get right (if we are playing with a lone striker system).

I wouldn't bank on it being a certain success mate, but I'm just saying I wouldn't write him off. We certainly need more options either way.

[jrio]

If it's a choice between Forlan, Heskey and Kanoute, that would be about the only time Freddi would be a decent choice. :eek:

[gomessi]

If it's a choice between Forlan, Heskey and Kanoute, that would be about the only time Freddi would be a decent choice. :eek:

Kanoute in spain has really transformed himself as a player. I think he would be a success if he played for us.

Unfortunately you are basing your views on his time at west ham and spurs (where I admit he didn't set the place alight).

My first choice would be huntelaar though. (but he would be over £20m)

[choda]

Kanoute in spain has really transformed himself as a player. I think he would be a success if he played for us.

Unfortunately you are basing your views on his time at west ham and spurs (where I admit he didn't set the place alight).

My first choice would be huntelaar though. (but he would be over £20m)

The prem probably doesn't suit him as well as Spain mate. He's not up for a physical battle. I'd happily be wrong but I wouldn't risk it and he is getting on.

If he was dirt cheap then fair enough, good punt and gives more options, but otherwise I would look elsewhere.

[gomessi]

If it's a choice between Forlan, Heskey and Kanoute, that would be about the only time Freddi would be a decent choice. :eek:

Who would you like to sign as a replacement striker? Look forward to hearing a response which is not a fantasy signing.

[jrio]

Kanoute in spain has really transformed himself as a player. I think he would be a success if he played for us.

Unfortunately you are basing your views on his time at west ham and spurs (where I admit he didn't set the place alight).

My first choice would be huntelaar though. (but he would be over £20m)
Which was long enough. I'm also basing my views on strikers that flopped here - Forlan, Morientes, Kezman - but were successful, some wildly so, in Spain.

Huntelaar is a fantasy. Ajax won't sell and he wouldn't come here. I don't think there are any obvious options and can't suggest anyone that I think would be available and come here.

[inthewoods]

Kanoute has been brilliant in Spain but I dont think hes really cut out for the Prem, as his time here and at West Spam proved. I think he could still bag himself about 10 goals here but thats nowhere near enough. He did show glimpses of brilliance at his time at Spurs but unfortunately, glimpses isnt good enough!

Huntelaars record is very, very impressive and id love to see him come, but as jrio said I dont think that will happen. F**k it, lets just sign Heskey and get it over with.

[olly27]

I would rather have Yakubo than Heskey!...Yakuba aint bad but not good enough for us. He's bloody strong and finishes quite well, but not an option really.

[olly27]

I reallly would have gone for Santa Cruz....he would of been the obvious and realistic choice in my eyes.

[jrio]

Ince would be a complete mug to sell off all his best players, which is why he's indicated Cruz and Warnock won't be sold. I suppose Cruz wouldn't be impossible if we offered 20m, but that's far in excess of what he's worth. The chance of getting any able strikers from another Prem club is about zero. Anyone coming in from abroad is going to face a really steep learning curve.

[olly27]

Ince would be a complete mug to sell off all his best players, which is why he's indicated Cruz and Warnock won't be sold. I suppose Cruz wouldn't be impossible if we offered 20m, but that's far in excess of what he's worth. The chance of getting any able strikers from another Prem club is about zero. Anyone coming in from abroad is going to face a really steep learning curve.

Yep and why, like you say, there are no obvious choices. Could you see a south american or two coming in?

[jrio]

Looks like there is a strong possibility we have just tentatively agreed to sign Pavlyuchenko from Spartak Moscow for £15m:

Even Roman said yesterday that "Tottenham" no such thing. "Everything happened very quickly" - explains Pavlyuchenko,

With a new coach Roman has not yet had time to chat. "In Russia leaders arrive for talks English club - he says. - S Huande Ramos, I have not yet been met. It seems like he should call. But I know for sure that it is very interested in my services."

"I would prefer wording that Roman is very close to the transition in" Tottenham "- cautiously said Head of Public Relations" Spartacus "Edward Nisenboym. "No papers, we have not yet signed. At the moment, with the English club reached only a verbal agreement. "

[olly27]

Looks like there is a strong possibility we have just tentatively agreed to sign Pavlyuchenko from Spartak Moscow for £15m:

Even Roman said yesterday that "Tottenham" no such thing. "Everything happened very quickly" - explains Pavlyuchenko,

With a new coach Roman has not yet had time to chat. "In Russia leaders arrive for talks English club - he says. - S Huande Ramos, I have not yet been met. It seems like he should call. But I know for sure that it is very interested in my services."

"I would prefer wording that Roman is very close to the transition in" Tottenham "- cautiously said Head of Public Relations" Spartacus "Edward Nisenboym. "No papers, we have not yet signed. At the moment, with the English club reached only a verbal agreement. "

Beat you to it Jrio...:p see interesting article thread! I mean this in jest of course.

[jrio]

Paul Smith on SO is backing it up and also saying Arshavin appears to be close.

[olly27]

Paul Smith on SO is backing it up and also saying Arshavin appears to be close.

Yeah that would make sense. I see the two Russians arriving now with a CB and DM hopefully.

Berba will be sold - rotting in the reserves was always a load of crap. Take the 25 mil and lets get on with it.

[gomessi]

I'm worried about palyuchenkos finishing. How many chances did he miss at the euros getting arshavin thoough would be a massive coup.

Canr wait for the transfer window to close.

[sundancer]

Things are looking a bit better, wish we had some positive news on a d.m. though.

[Falkom]

I´m not so worried 75 goals 145 games.... But of course you never know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Pavlyuchenko

[Woodgate39]

nah he aint cumin guys, dis is just a smoke screen to cover our real target. this is da media makin stuff up gain. heskey is signing n dats from a very reliable source

[Mattyboii]

Oh Yeah I Forgot Jenas Told him Heskeys Signing

[MarlowSpurs]

Oh Yeah I Forgot Jenas Told him Heskeys Signing

lol it gets better and better, **** it I'm off outside for 5 mins and see if my mate ET has any inside knowledge of whats going on at spurs

[berbzy 'G']

If Neil is not online, Who changed my name to berps?

[Woodgate39]

i changed ur name mayte

[berbzy 'G']

i changed ur name mayte

whatever, change it to something else then you crazy ****!

[Lilywhite Lad]

If Neil is not online, Who changed my name to berps?

He was online, but for some reason, didn't get round to reading the havoc Woodgate39 has caused and banned him.

[berbzy 'G']

He was online, but for some reason, didn't get round to reading the havoc Woodgate39 has caused and banned him.

I was beggining to think that Woodgate39 was some sort of ghost

[Baleinho]

I was beggining to think that Woodgate39 was some sort of ghost

Naw mate, its gotta be Neil lol.

I still cant believe that **** stole my name..... [well... my future name anyway]

[berbzy 'G']

Naw mate, its gotta be Neil lol.

I still cant believe that **** stole my name..... [well... my future name anyway]

lol change your future name to something completely different now, dont bring back memories :confused:

[choda]

I can't believe you changed your name to berps, oh what a legend. Lol. :D :D

I nearly pissed myself when I saw it up there in lights.

[choda]

This place is proper buzzin today. I haven't seen it this vibrant in ages.

[jrio]

So the latest is that Corluka, as many sources had predicted, IS 100% definite to sign.

[peterc]

So the latest is that Corluka, as many sources had predicted, IS 100% definite to sign.

And according to officials from Spartak Pavlyuchenko deal has been agreed, personal terms and medical are next. Hopefully happier days are coming to the Lane.

[LifeTimeYido]

Here is some of the latest "ITK" info

http://scitk.blogspot.com/

we have reached agreement for three strikers, two DM, two CH, two being loan deals. All names mentioned are spot on. S Americas, agreed at 6m plus various add ons (contigencey). All solidified now. Once the prat has gone loads of concluded activities. Hunts in region of 18m euros (not in one lump).

[choda]

The Itks seem to be suggesting that we are going to be very happy campers before the window slams shut. My concern is centre back with only Corluka being seriously linked and I'm not too sure about him. However, Veleso is being given a big head's up as are the Arshavin, Pav and possibly Falcoa deals.

[jrio]

The Itks seem to be suggesting that we are going to be very happy campers before the window slams shut. My concern is centre back with only Corluka being seriously linked and I'm not too sure about him. However, Veleso is being given a big head's up as are the Arshavin, Pav and possibly Falcoa deals.

Be wary of the amount of bullshit that emanates from the club. We've had years of being linked to big name players in deals that never materialised. They're talking about signing 7 players in 5 days and that just sounds like nonsense.

[berbzy 'G']

Oh ****, I dont want Corluka, he likes to get forward too much, and we just need some asshole that will stay at CB and do their job right

[denis-cro]

Oh ****, I dont want Corluka, he likes to get forward too much, and we just need some asshole that will stay at CB and do their job right

Yes, he´s attacking minded player, because his nominal position is RB, so when playing RB he use to get forward a lot... similar type of player to Alan Hutton...
Recently, he plays often as a CB for national team due to absents of quality defenders... tbh he cope very good with the challenge, but in my opinion, we should get a proper CB, not a versatile defender....

[berbzy 'G']

Yes, he´s attacking minded player, because his nominal position is RB, so when playing RB he use to get forward a lot... similar type of player to Alan Hutton...
Recently, he plays often as a CB for national team due to absents of quality defenders... tbh he cope very good with the challenge, but in my opinion, we should get a proper CB, not a versatile defender....

Yeah, We need someone very solid and someone who can knock balls out of the box all day long.

[yid4life]

Yeah, We need someone very solid and someone who can knock balls out of the box all day long.

Talking of someone very solid, on the ITK feed, it says we've enquired about Alex from Chelski, anyone else heard this?

[berbzy 'G']

Talking of someone very solid, on the ITK feed, it says we've enquired about Alex from Chelski, anyone else heard this?

I havent heard it, But he will be a brilliant solution

[choda]

Be wary of the amount of bullshit that emanates from the club. We've had years of being linked to big name players in deals that never materialised. They're talking about signing 7 players in 5 days and that just sounds like nonsense.

They are trying to get 4 players for four positions is how I took it. And I am aware of what Itks are, you don't have to tell me, it is often bullcrap and often personal interpretations of events.

[gomessi]

I would be very happy to see alex come. Cant see chelsea selling him