Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Sunderland

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[LifeTimeYido]

Got to win this - surely no **** ups here !!! ???

2-0 Spurs win.

[RuFuS]

A must win relegation battle in August !!!!!!!!!!:eek:

[yid4life]

After last saturdays performance, I'm gonna go for a draw:(

[coys]

i just honestly dont know anymore:( possibly 6-6 or then again 0-0 hopefully a favourable outome though, maybe???

[Lilywhite Lad]

I'd say a win, but then that probably won't happen if we don't field a strong enough team, with decent tactics. I can't really say a defeat though, because there is no way we can lose at home to Sunderland, in front of a sell-out crowd, right?:o I have predicted a draw on the IKTS game, but i insured that, because this really is the game that has me stumped, although a draw could be most likely. I honestly can't say i 100% know for sure what the outcome will be, so until 30mins before the game kicks-off, and the teams are confirmed, then i can't vote

[Ioang]

He's bred a lot of players with a lot of passion... we've kinda sold every one showing an ounce. Gonna be a tough one, hopefully talent will shine through.

[SunDog]

As long as we wake up and realise the friendlies are over and that the pedestrian pace of pre-season games wont cut it. Start playing with a bit of pace and the passion the home crowd deserves, then I can see a good 3-0 no matter who starts (within reason).

Play like we did against M'brough and it will be another struggled out draw or even another snatch and grab by Sunderland...as is becoming far too common recently, the result will depend on which of our players got out of bed in the right frame of mind :o

[MarlowSpurs]

I'm going for a 3-1 win

[denis-cro]

Not sure about this game...:(

[Chewy]

I reckon a 3-1 win as well. Malbranque to score theirs of course.

I'd like to see

Gomes
Gunter King Woodgate Gilberto
Bentley Modric O'Hara Bale
Dos Santos
Bent

subs: cesar, dawson, zokora, huddlestone, jenas, lennon, pekhart

I think thats a pretty well balanced team. I'd rather have gunter playing at rb over zokora.

Dos santos to play in the hole behind bent. **** berbatov he shouldn't be in the squad - its time to get used to life without him.

[Keanoldinho]

My optimism is shot to shit after a defence of

Zokora Daws Woody Ekotto in the first game

Sunderland will be up for it and have fight I'm not confident


I'd like us to line up like this

---------Gomes
Gunter Hudd Woody Bale
---------O'Hara
------Jenas Modric
Bentley----------Giovani
--------Berbatov

[irishspur]

If we have king and bale fit we'll be fine. Without them... I just dont know. We should line up like this.

gomes
gunter
woody
king(or hudd)
bale(or gilberto)
bentley
jj
modric
dos santos
bent
berba

I think we will sneak this one by a single goal:rolleyes:

[choda]

Well I am going to assume three things that I really shouldn't in factoring my prediction, but I am going to do it in hope:

They are that one, Dawson, Zokora and Ekotto will not play in defence (King or Hudd and Gunter and Bale will play) and we will have some sort of new spine to our cm (O'Hara in some sort of way or anything that can work better), two, the guys will be ready for the pace of the prem this week and three that the coaching staff will have ripped into them for not having enough fight, work rate and purpose.

So assuming this happens I predict a win, 2-0. Otherwise, I will put my jumper in my mouth and hope for the best.

[ReginaSpursFan]

I'm hoping we pull this one off as we are at the lane.

But Tottenham the second (Sunderland) could pull this one off.

I'll go with 2-1 to Spurs.

[gomessi]

3-0. I'm confident about getting the victory. we cant be as defensivly poor again I hope.

[mjbmedia]

depends who picks the team

If its Poyet then we will win :p

Try playing players in their natural positions and try moving off the ball and passing it rather than hoofing it and we may have a chance

[olly27]

If King plays I am optimitic, of course I am. If he doesnt put the Hudd in along side woodgate. Gunter to start at RB, Gilberto at LB. Play Ohara in with Modric...and Bentley has to play on the right (this is crucial for me) and Bale on the left with GDS behind Bent.

JJ will start though in place of Ohara.

2-1 to Spurs. Bentley and Bent, Diouf for them.

[Ioang]

Bale had a hell of a game for the U21 last night, now this either means

A) He'll make the difference on saturday

or B) he'll need more 'rest'. Hopefully the former.

[Mattyboii]

Im Just Hoping that the match was a kick in the teeth for them
make them learn their lesson so it kicks them into hyperdrive for the whole season

[bocayid]

I am pretty sure we will concede at least one....so we have to get a couple..

They will fancy their chances and Kean will have them fired up especially the old boys.

The opening tempo is crucial...we must come out firing and together up for a battle....hence the leadership issues,in games like this we need someone to inspire and motivate on the pitch.

[SurreySpur]

I am pretty sure we will concede at least one....so we have to get a couple..

They will fancy their chances and Kean will have them fired up especially the old boys.

The opening tempo is crucial...we must come out firing and together up for a battle....hence the leadership issues,in games like this we need someone to inspire and motivate on the pitch.

Yeah i couldnt agree more Boca, if Sunderland get a foothold in the game they will be hard to break down, we need to get the ball down and control the game from the first whistle, JJ and Woody are going to be key on Saturday, both men need to stand up and be counted and use their experience.

Does anyone know if Ledders is fit to start?

[olly27]

I am pretty sure we will concede at least one....so we have to get a couple..

They will fancy their chances and Kean will have them fired up especially the old boys.

The opening tempo is crucial...we must come out firing and together up for a battle....hence the leadership issues,in games like this we need someone to inspire and motivate on the pitch.


Extremely important - we do this and we win.

[mjbmedia]

if we lose this one, theres no Derby at home to help us out the quagmire this season, and we'll be bottom three by end of next weekend when the first proper table comes out and theyll be more changes in the offing.
Something smells rotten at WHL, has done for a while now ...................... the board dont want long term growth, just a profit to be made when selling.

[Keanoldinho]

if we lose this one, theres no Derby at home to help us out the quagmire this season, and we'll be bottom three by end of next weekend when the first proper table comes out and theyll be more changes in the offing.
Something smells rotten at WHL, has done for a while now ...................... the board dont want long term growth, just a profit to be made when selling.


Agreed it's starting to look that way especially when you look at the whole Keano and Arshavin sagas. Most of the fans would've took Arshavin over Keano anyday of the week me included most likely Juande too. All we had to do was give them the Keano money and bang we've got ourselves a world class footballing magician capable of ripping defences wide open but no the big brass are some penny pinching ****ers. It's looking increasingly like they're angling to sell and are trying to maxumis(spl:o ) their profits. We've spent jack shit this window when you look at the net comings and goings and our squad is starting to look very thin especially when you take into account players Juande has frozen out because they're just not good enough.

[Spaniard]

It will be a hard game to win. I watched last week Sunderland v Liverpool and Roy Keane has done an amazing job with them. If it weren't for Torres, it was a sure draw. Sunderland outplayed Liverpool for most parts of the game, and Murphy had a great chance when he was cleared in the box with a good cross to head only to head it weak.

I say 1-1, Dawson costing us some points and Bentley scoring.

[spursmadnick06]

We're a different kettle of fish at home, 3-1 with JJ to score and shut everyone up for at least a day.

[Keanoldinho]

It will be a hard game to win. I watched last week Sunderland v Liverpool and Roy Keane has done an amazing job with them. If it weren't for Torres, it was a sure draw. Sunderland outplayed Liverpool for most parts of the game, and Murphy had a great chance when he was cleared in the box with a good cross to head only to head it weak.

I say 1-1, Dawson costing us some points and Bentley scoring.


He certainly knows what he's doing I can't see them in the relegation battle this season I'd say they'll finish comfortably in the midtable somewhere between 8th-12th. Adding Cisse and Healy up front along with Diouf will give them some dangerous options up front.

[olly27]

Sunderland are on the up and are bringing in some decent players and have a good, hungry and motivated manager in Roy Keane. Having said all that if we cant beat them at home, forget ambitions of breaking the top 4...actaully I would say forget top 6.

[Shelfside]

As it has been said already,Sunderland are not going to be relegation fodder this year.They look like a side who,if they can't outplay you to win,then they will outfight you to win,and that could prove to be the difference on saturday.But,I will still predict a 1-1 draw.
Remember lads DO NOT place any bets on Spurs anymore.It will double the agony when you see your £500 accumulator gone to bollocks.

[apr82]

this could be even worse than last weekend.hopefully though ramos will select something resembling a football team. predict draw at best.

[gomessi]

Agreed it's starting to look that way especially when you look at the whole Keano and Arshavin sagas. Most of the fans would've took Arshavin over Keano anyday of the week me included most likely Juande too. All we had to do was give them the Keano money and bang we've got ourselves a world class footballing magician capable of ripping defences wide open but no the big brass are some penny pinching ****ers. It's looking increasingly like they're angling to sell and are trying to maxumis(spl:o ) their profits. We've spent jack shit this window when you look at the net comings and goings and our squad is starting to look very thin especially when you take into account players Juande has frozen out because they're just not good enough.

Completly agree with that. Levy is costing the club and taking the piss to be honest. Levy doesnt seem to want to pay£19.7m. A joke.

We have spent £5m this window :mad:

If this deal doesn''t go through it will show clearly levy wont spend so much most probably because he is 27 and wont be worth £10 when his contract is expiring.

[denis-cro]

Apparently Djibril Cisse signed a season long loan deal with Sunderland... more trouble for our defense... :(

[gomessi]

cant wait for the game to come around. hopefully a convincing performance will ease a bit of the stress.

Something to get you lot more optimistic. Our record at home against sunderland in the premier league era is played 7 won 7:D

[Lilywhite Lad]

Apparently Djibril Cisse signed a season long loan deal with Sunderland... more trouble for our defense... :(

I also see they've signed David Healy permanently. I'm not looking forward to Saturday now :( .

[Chewy]

I also see they've signed David Healy permanently. I'm not looking forward to Saturday now :( .

why? healy is shit.

[berbzy 'G']

We will be lucky to get a draw tbh, and thats what I think the result will be, already predicted the right result against Borough :cool:

[jrio]

I also see they've signed David Healy permanently. I'm not looking forward to Saturday now :( .

Yes, I'm shitting myself. Healy, with his devastating record of 0.26 goals per game in the top 2 divisions, allied to Cisse, the French forward who's modeled some of the most devastating haircuts in Premiership history. You've got to hand it to Keano, ex-Spurs players aside, he really does specialise in mediocre signings.

[jrio]

We will be lucky to get a draw tbh, and thats what I think the result will be, already predicted the right result against Borough :cool:

The oracle has spoken. Are you Lawro in disguise? Oh no, you can't be as he's predicted a 2-1 win.

Frankly, I'll be surprised if Spurs actually turn up. Their knees will be all trembly and not because they're going to Wembley. Sunderland also boast the legendary talents of Andy Reid, the Irish Brazilian(he's into waxing), Craig 'Flash' Gordon, Diouf the Spitting Cobra, and that bloke wot used to play occasionally for United and whose cousin was on last year's Big Brother. I don't think Ramos knows what he's in for.

[irishspur]

why? healy is shit.

Hes the top scorer in euro qualifiers of all time and all this for Northern Ireland including a hat-trick against the European Champions Spain. Dont sneeze at him:)

[mjbmedia]

no worries, dawson's man marking Healy :(

[olly27]

why? healy is shit.

Healy shit? Your having a laugh. He might not have done the business in the domestic leagues but his international record is fantastic. I would never write him off.

[olly27]

Yes, I'm shitting myself. Healy, with his devastating record of 0.26 goals per game in the top 2 divisions, allied to Cisse, the French forward who's modeled some of the most devastating haircuts in Premiership history. You've got to hand it to Keano, ex-Spurs players aside, he really does specialise in mediocre signings.

Cisse is a decent signing for a club like Sunderland, Healy may have a pretty woeful record in the league but his international record (at the highest level) speaks for itself. Finding the right club and a manager who could bring out his international form and you could see a transformed player.

Keane's signings have been sound not mediocre. Its all relative, and for a club who have just came up again it represents good business in the main.

[Ginola's Son]

Erghh, Cisse!

Sunderland look good!

I'm scared.

[Baleinho]

Keep the faith.

2-1 Spurs.

[hodgy]

ok, well i'm going for us to win 4-1. after having a rocket up the arse last week the boys will go out and play with pride and passion, all guns blazing. looking forward to motd, bent will get 2. a bale free kick and modric, have faith in the boys

[Mattyboii]

ok, well i'm going for us to win 4-1. after having a rocket up the arse last week the boys will go out and play with pride and passion, all guns blazing. looking forward to motd, bent will get 2. a bale free kick and modric, have faith in the boys

Hodgy that explanation.....
youve convinced me
3-1 or 4-1 Becauuuuse.....
of what he said :)

[Lilywhite Lad]

Yes, I'm shitting myself. Healy, with his devastating record of 0.26 goals per game in the top 2 divisions, allied to Cisse, the French forward who's modeled some of the most devastating haircuts in Premiership history. You've got to hand it to Keano, ex-Spurs players aside, he really does specialise in mediocre signings.

Well tbh, i don't think anyone was shitting themselves at the prospect of Mido and Wheater before the Boro game, and yet look what they did. I didn't say, 'oh shit, David Healy is going to muller us now', but what i meant was that now Keane has signed another attacking player, who has got a fairly good record actually, he is building a good force that could cause us problems on Saturday, and with the team he's already got, you can't underestimate what they can do.

[olly27]

Getting really nervous now. We have to win this to set the tone as we have Chavski next. I really think we will be fired up for this, we better be, and I am revising my 2-1 to a 3-1. We will get the third goal around the 90 min mark just so we can all sweat until that happens.

Bent, GDS and Bentley all to score, Diouf scoring for the mackems.

Bentley to score with a free kick.

[inthewoods]

Although it will be no walk in the park, I think we'll scrape this one 2-0. Goals will come in second half courtesy of Jenas and Bent.

ALthough its only the second game of the season, this is a MUST win to build the confidence for the game against Chelski. Come On You Spurs! No more let downs please!!

[Keanoldinho]

Can't wait for the game it's coming on FSC live so I'll beable to watch it on the big flat screen and not some shitty little stream. It's followed by the scum and fulham game so I'll be cheering on fulham right after we hopefully beat the mackems.

2nd game of the season and it's already a must win because chavski away will be a point at the very best. The line up will tell us alot and hopefully King, Bale and Berbatov will start.

[olly27]

Can't wait for the game it's coming on FSC live so I'll beable to watch it on the big flat screen and not some shitty little stream. It's followed by the scum and fulham game so I'll be cheering on fulham right after we hopefully beat the mackems.

2nd game of the season and it's already a must win because chavski away will be a point at the very best. The line up will tell us alot and hopefully King, Bale and Berbatov will start.

Mate if they do...i am confident.

[olly27]

Will somebody be able to post a stream up here?

[jrio]

Well tbh, i don't think anyone was shitting themselves at the prospect of Mido and Wheater before the Boro game, and yet look what they did. I didn't say, 'oh shit, David Healy is going to muller us now', but what i meant was that now Keane has signed another attacking player, who has got a fairly good record actually, he is building a good force that could cause us problems on Saturday, and with the team he's already got, you can't underestimate what they can do.

But Healy hasn't got a good record in scoring in the Championship or the Prem. They've increased their chances of scoring, but against Liverpool that was as near zero as it gets. Diouf would be a much bigger danger and Mal can't be discounted.

@olly27

Last season's certainly weren't sound. He signed Chopra for 5m and has since signed another 3 strikers. Halford(2.5m) came and is now on his second loan, soon to be followed out by Etuhu(1.5m), whilst Stokes(2m) and McShane(2.5m) don't look likely to be around too much longer.

[LifeTimeYido]

Will somebody be able to post a stream up here?

I usually get mine from here

http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports

Just log onto the site and look for the spurs match and pick a stream from the list.

[Keanoldinho]

But Healy hasn't got a good record in scoring in the Championship or the Prem. They've increased their chances of scoring, but against Liverpool that was as near zero as it gets. Diouf would be a much bigger danger and Mal can't be discounted.

@olly27

Last season's certainly weren't sound. He signed Chopra for 5m and has since signed another 3 strikers. Halford(2.5m) came and is now on his second loan, soon to be followed out by Etuhu(1.5m), whilst Stokes(2m) and McShane(2.5m) don't look likely to be around too much longer.


Last season they were newly promoted and part of the relegation battle so he signed players that would help them survive in the prem.

This season they're building and looking to ensure a mid-table finish. He's slowly raising the profile of the club. You can't deny Keane has done a great job thus far and Cisse might of had a bad time at pool breaking his leg and what not but you can't turn a blind eye to him because he's got the pace power and skill to burn you if not shown respect. Healy is like an upgrade on Chopra he might not have a great domestic record but his international record shows he has a good nose for goal and could come on and nick you a late winner from time to time.

[corkspur]

make no mistake,this is going to be a tough battler of a game with their new signings up front.still think we will shade it.2-1 spurs.

[jrio]

Last season they were newly promoted and part of the relegation battle so he signed players that would help them survive in the prem.

This season they're building and looking to ensure a mid-table finish. He's slowly raising the profile of the club. You can't deny Keane has done a great job thus far and Cisse might of had a bad time at pool breaking his leg and what not but you can't turn a blind eye to him because he's got the pace power and skill to burn you if not shown respect. Healy is like an upgrade on Chopra he might not have a great domestic record but his international record shows he has a good nose for goal and could come on and nick you a late winner from time to time.

Yeah, but he signed them at about double what they were worth. He's done a good job, not a great one.

[Mattyboii]

anyone know if match is on tv
are most the matches on setanta or sky this year?
if setanta, myt have to get it this year

Anyone Know That Gardener Has Moved permanently Now

[olly27]

But Healy hasn't got a good record in scoring in the Championship or the Prem. They've increased their chances of scoring, but against Liverpool that was as near zero as it gets. Diouf would be a much bigger danger and Mal can't be discounted.

@olly27

Last season's certainly weren't sound. He signed Chopra for 5m and has since signed another 3 strikers. Halford(2.5m) came and is now on his second loan, soon to be followed out by Etuhu(1.5m), whilst Stokes(2m) and McShane(2.5m) don't look likely to be around too much longer.

I was simply stating that his moves this summer seem to be good ones, of course that can only be judged come the end of the season, so we will see. I agree about last season however. A team up for a second season will be able to attract certain players who may not have came in a first season.

[choda]

Yeah, but he signed them at about double what they were worth. He's done a good job, not a great one.

Well you don't understand the market, you almost always say the same thing about most signings and your predictions are almost always too low. Think about it, get with the times.

Secondly, you are critical of spurs and sunderland in how they sign players, two of the most progressive teams in the league, simply because you don't get what they are trying to do, and have achieved a lot in doing so by the way.

[olly27]

I usually get mine from here

http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports

Just log onto the site and look for the spurs match and pick a stream from the list.


Cheers mate...i'l have a look tomorrow..

[choda]

I was simply stating that his moves this summer seem to be good ones, of course that can only be judged come the end of the season, so we will see. I agree about last season however. A team up for a second season will be able to attract certain players who may not have came in a first season.

He did have some questionable transfers last season but he had so much trouble getting players to the club at the time (sunderland rep from last prem etc.), as you say it's all relative. End of the day his transfers in January are what saved the club. He brought in some better defenders and Andy Reid and it was crucial for them. They stopped leaking goals and they started to hold onto the ball and create far more chances. Keane did a remarkable job really to get them that high up.

[olly27]

He did have some questionable transfers last season but he had so much trouble getting players to the club at the time (sunderland rep from last prem etc.), as you say it's all relative. End of the day his transfers in January are what saved the club. He brought in some better defenders and Andy Reid and it was crucial for them. They stopped leaking goals and they started to hold onto the ball and create far more chances. Keane did a remarkable job really to get them that high up.

I agree with that....and I think he's made some sound buys this time around...havn't heard anyone touting them for a relegation battle this season...says it all for me. I think they will finish between 10-13...which is pretty good progress.

[Keanoldinho]

Yeah, but he signed them at about double what they were worth. He's done a good job, not a great one.


Considering were they were at when he first took over and were they're at now he's done a fecking great job. You can be a mug if you want you usually are. For someone who tries to act well educated you're a thick ****.

[jrio]

Well you don't understand the market, you almost always say the same thing about most signings and your predictions are almost always too low. Think about it, get with the times.

Secondly, you are critical of spurs and sunderland in how they sign players, two of the most progressive teams in the league, simple because you don't get what they are trying to do, and have achieved a lot in doing so by the way.
Whatever are you on about? If you're referring to Keano(and when aren't you), Liverpool paid well over the going rate. Even fans who didn't want him to go thought it too high a price to reject.

Secondly, you're thinking of someone else as I've never been critical of either Spurs or Sunderland in how they sign players. Keane at Sunderland has simply bought too many Championship level players and paid far too highly for them. The fact he had to buy so extensively in January shows how weak his summer purchases were. Pretty rich stuff from the guy who told us, despite being warned to the contrary, that Boateng was the commanding CM that would transform the midfield. :rolleyes:

[jrio]

Considering were they were at when he first took over and were they're at now he's done a fecking great job. You can be a mug if you want you usually are. For someone who tries to act well educated you're a thick ****.

We weren't discussing how he did since he took over, we were discussing how he did with the funds he had last season after promotion. If you had 2 brain cells to rub together instead of 2 hairy bag bollocks in your lame brain skull, you might have been able to attempt a semi-intelligible response. As it is, we can expect nothing more than your usual juvenile abuse making my point better than I could do myself. You're such a half-wit you can only harbour ambitions to be a complete dimwit.

[Keanoldinho]

We weren't discussing how he did since he took over, we were discussing how he did with the funds he had last season after promotion. If you had 2 brain cells to rub together instead of 2 hairy bag bollocks in your lame brain skull, you might have been able to attempt a semi-intelligible response. As it is, we can expect nothing more than your usual juvenile abuse making my point better than I could do myself. You're such a half-wit you can only harbour ambitions to be a complete dimwit.


No we were discussing how well Keano has done at Sunderland and he's done a great job there. Won promotion with style, survived the relegation battle and looks to be building a mid-table team. So far he's done a great job what the future holds for him we'll just have to wait and see.

You say he's paid over the odds for alot of players but he's accomplishing his goals with all these players playing a part some bigger than others. That being said I'm sure he'd disagree with your dimwitted observations.

[jrio]

No we were discussing how well Keano has done at Sunderland and he's done a great job there. Won promotion with style, survived the relegation battle and looks to be building a mid-table team. So far he's done a great job what the future holds for him we'll just have to wait and see.

You say he's paid over the odds for alot of players but he's accomplishing his goals with all these players playing a part some bigger than others. That being said I'm sure he'd disagree with your dimwitted observations.
Getting promotion hasn't normally been a problem for them. McCarthy did it with a record points total, and then they got a record low points total when relegated the following season. The test for Keane was always going to be how he did in competing in the PL. He's paid inflated fees for too many players not able to compete at this level. This is the team that got hammered 7-1 by those notorious 1 nil merchants Everton. He's spent a vast amount of money for a below average return. He accomplished his goal, he just didn't do it very efficiently.

[gomessi]

Getting promotion hasn't normally been a problem for them. McCarthy did it with a record points total, and then they got a record low points total when relegated the following season. The test for Keane was always going to be how he did in competing in the PL. He's paid inflated fees for too many players not able to compete at this level. This is the team that got hammered 7-1 by those notorious 1 nil merchants Everton. He's spent a vast amount of money for a below average return. He accomplished his goal, he just didn't do it very efficiently.

I agree with what you have said there. Keane has achieved what he has set out to do. However keane has admitted himself he has made mistakes in the transfer window (the point jrio was making). I think he paid over the odds for a lot of players. That doesn't mean he hasn't done a good job overall.

Sunderland manager Roy Keane has vowed not to repeat last summer's mistakes in the transfer market.

Following promotion to the Premier League, Keane spent heavily in an attempt to assemble a squad capable of avoiding relegation.

Though the Black Cats are on course for survival, several of the Irishman's signings, such as Greg Halford and Russell Anderson, have had no impact at the Stadium of Light.

Keane has acknowledged the errors he made 12 months ago, but is confident he is now in a better position when he looks for new signings at the end of the season.

"I made mistakes last summer," said Keane. "We did a lot of deals before getting back to pre-season [training].

"I won't be making that mistake again. I won't be making 30 or 40 phone calls every day like I did last summer.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11695_3434661,00.html

[Lilywhite Lad]

Right taking everything into account, i've finally made a prediction to tomorrow's game. I know it'll be a stern test, but at the end of the day, our lads have got a point to prove on the first home match of the season, and for that, i see us triumphing 2-1 winners against the mackems.

[gazzaG8]

The optimism has been drained out of me (As it did last season) but i think we'll pull it off...2-1 Spurs

[Indianspur]

i'd hate to admit it but i'd rather have a draw now than play like last seasons start and slowly build into the top half.1-1 will do for me just to get the ball rolling, until hutton and king get back in,

[Keanoldinho]

Getting promotion hasn't normally been a problem for them. McCarthy did it with a record points total, and then they got a record low points total when relegated the following season. The test for Keane was always going to be how he did in competing in the PL. He's paid inflated fees for too many players not able to compete at this level. This is the team that got hammered 7-1 by those notorious 1 nil merchants Everton. He's spent a vast amount of money for a below average return. He accomplished his goal, he just didn't do it very efficiently.



Yeah but he didn't take over with them bottom of the league playing like pish and not being able to buy a win. Keane has made mistakes yeah all managers do but that's expected because he's a young manager and his options last season were slim in the transfer market. From were he started to were he's at right now I feel he's done a great job especially if he achieves a comfortable mid-table finish this season. His next challenge will be challenging for Europe and that will be a big step for him to make and it'll go along way in telling if he can cut it at the top of his management profession.

[choda]

Yeah but he didn't take over with them bottom of the league playing like pish and not being able to buy a win. Keane has made mistakes yeah all managers do but that's expected because he's a young manager and his options last season were slim in the transfer market. From were he started to were he's at right now I feel he's done a great job especially if he achieves a comfortable mid-table finish this season. His next challenge will be challenging for Europe and that will be a big step for him to make and it'll go along way in telling if he can cut it at the top of his management profession.

Excellent post, very correct and fair, and I'm betting he is going to keep improving them based on what he has done so far and the type of person he is. I mean who else that achieved as much as he did as a player would make 40 calls a day as a manager for players? His determination and desire to succeed were incredible as a player and are the same as a manager. And he's a very intelligent person, add that with his experience and his determination and you have a bit of a force of nature to be honest.

Quinny says it has to be seen to be believed what kind of operator he is; the utterly perfect planning that includes every last thing that can make that tiny difference, knowledge of all aspects of the game, the appetite for the job, his work ethic, the way he can tell players something in one sentence that takes most coaches 20 minutes and so on.

He's always been one of my biggest heros. To say he is 'a man who gets things done' is a bit of an understatement. I always thought he'd be a phenomonal manager and I haven't seen much to disuade me from that view so far.

I just hope we can beat them tomorrow because we really 'should' at this point in time and we really need to get a win under our belts early and get this season underway.

[bocayid]

The thing with the Keanos of this world and even the like of old 'arry' redknapp is that they take the cast offs from other clubs..the oldies and the not quite good enoughs and make them believe they are the most important players in the world...that they are not just bit players or that they are only there till something better comes along....in return more often than not those players will walk through walls for em....

no egos to massage and real team ethic...hungry players with a point to prove ...keano was a leader and he inspires....

[Benjo]

can somebody tell me wen start the game pleas?

thnx.

[MarlowSpurs]

3pm kick off
links here for the stream
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/

[yid4life]

Of course I would like to see us win today, but I just hope we dont start with Zoroka at right back and BAE at left back. I would be overjoyed if Jenas didnt start but hes vice-captain and once again under another manager hes untouchable:mad:

I hope Ledley palys today but its probably wishful thinking

[yid4life]

Shit Berba's not even in the squad, the retards from SSN are actually right, ramos says he isnt focused enough. Looks like this is the end for Berba at spurs come on levy get at least 30m

At least Ledley King is playing, anyone know the actual team today?

[Chewy]

I'm pleased hes not in the squad. Hes leaving so lets get the players that want to be at this club gelling together! I wonder if pekhart will get some minutes today.

[jrio]

King and Bale in for Daws and Gio. Chimbonda injured and doesn't play. Cisse and Healy on bench for Sunderland as expected.

Team: Gomes, Zokora, Assou-Ekotto, King, Woodgate, Lennon, Bentley, Jenas, Modric, Bale, Bent.

Subs: Cesar, Huddlestone, Gilberto, Gunter, Giovani, Dawson, O'Hara.

[yid4life]

King and Bale in for Daws and Gio. Chimbonda injured and doesn't play. Cisse and Healy on bench for Sunderland as expected.

Team: Gomes, Zokora, Assou-Ekotto, King, Woodgate, Lennon, Bentley, Jenas, Modric, Bale, Bent.

Subs: Cesar, Huddlestone, Gilberto, Gunter, Giovani, Dawson, O'Hara.

Oh FFS, BAE / Zoroka at full backs & Bentley in centre mid plus Jenas is playing:mad:

[Chewy]

****. Zokora and Assou-Ekotto starting again!

How do you see that one line up?

Gomes
Zokora King Woodgate Ekotto
Bentley Jenas Modric Bale
Lennon
Bent


Or will bentley be again played out of position...

[denis-cro]

Gio is on the bench ??? Why ?? Is he injured or he wants to leave like that Bulgarian **** ??!!!

[jrio]

Gio is on the bench ??? Why ?? Is he injured or he wants to leave like that Bulgarian **** ??!!!
Played for Mexico against Honduras in midweek so has done a lot of travelling.

[olly27]

****. Zokora and Assou-Ekotto starting again!

How do you see that one line up?

Gomes
Zokora King Woodgate Ekotto
Bentley Jenas Modric Bale
Lennon
Bent


Or will bentley be again played out of position...

Thats the way I would see it...

[choda]

Well Ledley and Woody is an infinitely stronger centre back. However, the full backs are a big worry, as is central midfield where we may get our arses handed to us again. You can bet Sunderland will work their socks off, are we going to match them for work rate and aggression and let our extra quality show? That is the big question and applies especially to the middle of the park.

[denis-cro]

Played for Mexico against Honduras in midweek so has done a lot of travelling.

Fair enough !!!

[yid4life]

****. Zokora and Assou-Ekotto starting again!

How do you see that one line up?

Gomes
Zokora King Woodgate Ekotto
Bentley Jenas Modric Bale
Lennon
Bent


Or will bentley be again played out of position...

Yep, spend 15m on a player and play him out of position so we can play Lennon, typical tottenham:(

If we lose today I'm sorry but I will start to question what the **** is Ramos doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAE is not prem class, zoroka is not a RB and we have gunter who looked good in pre-season. Bentley is a RM period, lennon is no more than an impact player and shouldnt start.

I look at todays team and theres no muscle / strength in the midfield, we a have a small team and two god awful full backs playing. Why doesnt he play huddlestone, o'hara or even zoroka in midfield?????????

[olly27]

I am officially shitting myself....

[Chewy]

anybody got a decent stream going?

[jrio]

http://www.justin.tv/fox_2

Just started.

Not working very well, switched to sopcast 6029.

[MarlowSpurs]

anybody got a decent stream going?

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat23.8/Tottenham_Sunderland.html

Uses sopcast but once the stream is running click the box that looks like two squares overlapping each other and it will run in windows media player

[MarlowSpurs]

I am officially shitting myself....

Thats two of us then

[Chewy]

Bentley playing on the left... great...

[LifeTimeYido]

Ive got a near faultless stream here

http://www.mogulus.com/grid/PlayerV2.swf?channel=mlisbb

[Spur]

Not got great hopes for today.

[olly27]

Brillant pic on this

http://www.mogulus.com/mlisbb

[olly27]

Not looking great to be honest so far...

[Spur]

I know I bang on about the midfield, but I find it somewhat worrying that they can be split open for fun.

[MarlowSpurs]

Not got great hopes for today.

I know how you feel

[olly27]

Really good corner from Bentley..any touch and it was in..

[MarlowSpurs]

I know I bang on about the midfield, but I find it somewhat worrying that they can be split open for fun.

A bit like a Terry's Orange

[olly27]

Lennon has been our most dangerous player!

[Spur]

We should sign that Andy Reid.

Turned JJ like a door handle.

[SCIFIN17YID]

Anyone got a good quality stream link, and in english ?

[MarlowSpurs]

Not a single goal in the prem at the mo.

[MarlowSpurs]

I tell a lie Stoke have gone 1-0 up against villa

[denis-cro]

What a shit performance by Spurs... there´s no way we´re gonna win this with one upfront !!!!

[Spur]

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat23.8/Tottenham_Sunderland.html

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[MarlowSpurs]

I was just sitting here wondering where the goals are going to come from, answers on a postcard to the usual address

[olly27]

We should this one...but I shouldn't say that.

[SCIFIN17YID]

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat23.8/Tottenham_Sunderland.html

7

Thank you very much.

[olly27]

Sunderland should have scored....

[Spur]

I was just sitting here wondering where the goals are going to come from, answers on a postcard to the usual address

Jenas.

Midfield dynamo.

[Chewy]

He should play lennon in the hole and move bentley to the right where we could use his delivery.

[MarlowSpurs]

Jenas.

Midfield dynamo.

Cheers, I've just spat my coffee out reading that:D

[MarlowSpurs]

Jenas you dirty bugger;)

[Chewy]

This is awful....

[olly27]

This is doing my head in......we look nervous.

[MarlowSpurs]

This is doing my head in......we look nervous.

We look like we are never going to score

[Spur]

We're playing like the away team.

[Chewy]

****ing shit tottenham!

Dos Santos on for ekotto please. Put bale at LB... lennon on the left wing... bentley o nthe right and dos santos up with bent.

[olly27]

This is doing my head in.......we dont look that dangerous to be honest.

[mjbmedia]

whats the point of having pre season if you forget how to play once the season starts?
anyway synchronised swimming suddenly appears thrillingly entertaining after watching us for the last two matches (so far)

We miss berbs and he should be playing if we want three points or are we really doing everything we possibly can to hand top four to Liverpool and Man U .

Get GDS on, Ekotto off, Bale dropping back, Lennie on the left interchanging with Bentley.

[olly27]

Get GDS on, take off Jenas and Benny and bring on the THUDD..

[denis-cro]

We should bring 2 strikers and 1 CB ASAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ramos , please stop with this 4-5-1 system cause it´s awful !!!!!!

[nuttyhotspurs]

modric and jeans havin another mare. modric deffo struggly with the physical side. hes been brushed off the ball a few times already and both have the touch of a rapist. reid looks like hes the 16m midfielder on show today

we have two of the best crossers of the ball in the prem in bale and bentley but have no one to get on the end of them. thats tottenham all over!!!!

[Mattyboii]

Sopcast is doing my head in
Downloaded it coz i dnt have on laptop
It still says i dont have sopcast software
And So I Cant watch it :@
probz a good idea aswell
a sign :)

[Keanoldinho]

whats the point of having pre season if you forget how to play once the season starts?
anyway synchronised swimming suddenly appears thrillingly entertaining after watching us for the last two matches (so far)

We miss berbs and he should be playing if we want three points or are we really doing everything we possibly can to hand top four to Liverpool and Man U .

Get GDS on, Ekotto off, Bale dropping back, Lennie on the left interchanging with Bentley.



definately agree with this.

Bent needs to get a rocket up his arse. He runs in straight lines and never tries to pull the CB out of position. He's looking very one dimensional after such a amazing pre-season.

[mjbmedia]

starting to make me think about the end of last season , many said it was Ramos getting ready for this season ,yeh it was, we were ****ing shit then too

[Keanoldinho]

starting to make me think about the end of last season , many said it was Ramos getting ready for this season ,yeh it was, we were ****ing shit then too


The whole Keano and Berbatov sagas have ****ed us royally

[nuttyhotspurs]

it was always gona be hard.we are trying a new system , we have lost 2 of the best strikers in the league. its tough playin with 1 up top. especially when he aint a physical player

[nuttyhotspurs]

pekhart obviously not deemed good enough or ready for the prem then? absolutely ridiculous that we havent got another out and out striker on the bench. it would only happen to us

[LifeTimeYido]

Well that was a piss poor 1st 1/2.

[wayne wonder]

Modric is playing so deep he'll be out the ground on the car park!

Get him forward and jenas DM and take BAE off bale left back lenny over to the left!!!

[nuttyhotspurs]

how the **** bale miss that. jesus christ

[Spur]

how the **** bale miss that. jesus christ

Missed that what happened?

Ed: Just seen.


OMG.

[wayne wonder]

woeful!! looks like another mid table finish if we don get anyone in

[MarlowSpurs]

woeful!! looks like another mid table finish if we don get anyone in

If we are lucky

[olly27]

We are not going to win this..

[MarlowSpurs]

Good save by Gomes

[olly27]

oh shit FFS

[denis-cro]

This is embarrassing!!!

[SCIFIN17YID]

stupid spurs ! usual crap, we need to get rid of jenas and get a real replacement for him.

[nuttyhotspurs]

lucky bounce but crackin strike. i cannot believe hes taken lennon off. yet another jol-esque substitution

[olly27]

i AM SICK OF THIS

[LifeTimeYido]

we Are ****s

[denis-cro]

Ramos you stupid **** !!!

[Chewy]

**** sake...

[MarlowSpurs]

**** it here we go again

[wayne wonder]

Selll your 2 main strikers and this is what happens ffs bunch of ****s

4th spot yeah right if it carries on levy will get rid of all of them

[Yiddo4Life]

sigh........

[nuttyhotspurs]

whats a clean sheet again?

[LifeTimeYido]

Jenus the **** stopped - claiming hand ball, what a prick !!

[nuttyhotspurs]

Selll your 2 main strikers and this is what happens ffs bunch of ****s

4th spot yeah right if it carries on levy will get rid of all of them

its lookin like 4th from the bottom

[MarlowSpurs]

whats a clean sheet again?

something every team who plays against us can expect

[nuttyhotspurs]

bale misses another sitter . ****s sake!

[MarlowSpurs]

30mins to grab a goal, christ we need 30 games to score

[Chewy]

come on you spurs for **** sake!

[denis-cro]

Same old story... every ****ing season !!!! what is the problem with this club ???

[wayne wonder]

its lookin like 4th from the bottom

LOL!

no wonder every other team laughs at us we think we're the big I AM and we're **** all

[wayne wonder]

just ****ed my whole weekend again!!

[MarlowSpurs]

Same old story... every ****ing season !!!! what is the problem with this club ???

Selling two strikers who get 40+ goals between them a season don't help

[nuttyhotspurs]

Same old story... every ****ing season !!!! what is the problem with this club ???


we are shite?

[denis-cro]

Cisse is coming... now we´re ****ed !!

[MarlowSpurs]

just ****ed my whole weekend again!!

should be used to it by now, I am

[MarlowSpurs]

Cisse is coming... now we´re ****ed !!

you watch him get a second in the 88th minute

[nuttyhotspurs]

bring on the chelski!!!!! lol :confused:

[olly27]

The whole summer we wait for the big season...and we get beat Middlesbrough and Sunderland most likely...its a joke,.

[LifeTimeYido]

Chelscumski will rape us senseless next weekend

[olly27]

When are we going to buy some players who arnt made of glass..

[wayne wonder]

should be used to it by now, I am

I am but u live in hope one day spurs will have a trouble free season is that too much to ask for?

[MarlowSpurs]

I am but u live in hope one day spurs will have a trouble free season is that too much to ask for?

Thats a big ask:p

[nuttyhotspurs]

I am but u live in hope one day spurs will have a trouble free season is that too much to ask for?

yes far too much to ask for mate!!!!

[MarlowSpurs]

hahaha liverpool are losing

[nuttyhotspurs]

about ****in time. it was coming. but thought it was gonna be one of those days again. fair play to the lads , at least they are trying now.

[MarlowSpurs]

bring on the chelski!!!!! lol :confused:

they are going to rip us multiple arseholes

[denis-cro]

cmon !!!!!!!!!!! Cmon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chewy]

Come On!!!!!

[jrio]

Kinda knew it would be Jenas to save his place.

Meanwhile Mido's put Boro 1 up. :eek:

[Yiddo4Life]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

[olly27]

Jenas....about time.

[MarlowSpurs]

Jenas.

Midfield dynamo.

you were correct dear fellow

[nuttyhotspurs]

hahaha liverpool are losing

MIDOOO!!!!!!!

[LifeTimeYido]

'Kin get in there !!

[nuttyhotspurs]

steed ya prick. is that bale gone for 6 months again?

[MarlowSpurs]

MIDOOO!!!!!!!

another spurs reject

[MarlowSpurs]

**** not bale again

[MarlowSpurs]

Bentley not scared to have a go is he

[LifeTimeYido]

Modric finally playing where he should be now - c'mon.

[nuttyhotspurs]

:( how many chances do we need for a goal. 12 corners????? we cud be 5 or 6-1 up now

[MarlowSpurs]

:( how many chances do we need for a goal. 12 corners????? we cud be 5 or 6-1 up now

I'm going for 12 games

[SCIFIN17YID]

pfft, my bad.

[nuttyhotspurs]

cisse!!!!! who would have thought that!! big shock

[olly27]

I am sick...cisse

[MarlowSpurs]

we scored i heard them !!!

I ****ing knew it

[Keanoldinho]

ffs we miss a hatful then they score

[Chewy]

champions league we're having a laugh

[LifeTimeYido]

jesus ****ing ****ing ****-facing Christ

[olly27]

Well thats it for about a month now......c ya later guys...Chelsea away next, the villa at home, no points after 4 games.

[SCIFIN17YID]

I ****ing knew it

I heard, a goal, then some seconds later, they started chanting that cisse guy :/

[nuttyhotspurs]

ffs we miss a hatful then they score

thats spurs all over mate

[corkspur]

this is a shocker!!! pathetic,useless ****s!!write off this season guys if we cant beat this shower at home!

[nuttyhotspurs]

how can stoke be beating villa. lol

[LifeTimeYido]

Berbatov must be pissing himself.

[denis-cro]

Same old story... nothing has changed... NOTHING !!! I must say that at this point we are worst than we were when Jol was sacked... this is disgraceful ... We will dangerously battle for not to relegate this season... I dont blame so much the players, because this tactic is absolutely shit !!! Pathetic....

[MarlowSpurs]

Berbatov must be pissing himself.

or just glad he's leaving

[SunDog]

Its nothing 80 mill cant fix :confused:

[SCIFIN17YID]

Call this stupid, but a friend of mine who works in William hill said that ramos will get sacked in 10 games, is a good bet and the pricing is good, what do you guys think of this. ?

[MarlowSpurs]

Call this stupid, but a friend of mine who works in William hill said that ramos will get sacked in 10 games, is a good bet and the pricing is good, what do you guys think of this. ?

Put a £10 on it

[Spur]

Call this stupid, but a friend of mine who works in William hill said that ramos will get sacked in 10 games, is a good bet and the pricing is good, what do you guys think of this. ?

I think your friend is a cashier so knows, quite simply, SFA.

[nuttyhotspurs]

what a surprise pool and villa both equalising near the near the end. that the difference, they are good and we are not

[MarlowSpurs]

and then get Christian Gross to replace him

[SCIFIN17YID]

I think your friend is a cashier so knows, quite simply, SFA.

SFA <--- ?

[Chewy]

what a pile of ****ing wank. 0 points in our first 4 games it looks....

[LifeTimeYido]

SFA <--- ?


Sweet **** All

[mjbmedia]

Juande i'll fly away........ good **** off then

your dumb ****er decision last week to have Berbs on the bench was stupid, to then repeat that error and not even have our best player on the bench is complete ****ing bollox you ****, i dont care if hes leaving, hes still by a country mile our best player and as we're paying his wages we may as well ****ing use him.
The starting 11 last week was bollox as was the set up ,this week wasnt any better and GDS is wasted on the right when he does come on, he HAS to play in the hole with a free rien.
Its so ****ing obvious, the end of last season wasnt you getting ready for this, that was ALL you could manage, luckily for you Chelsea ****ed up in the CC final with their equally pathetic line up.
WHen you got to this club you done some weird tactics and subs and they worked, now you just do dumb boring basic shit , if thats all youre gonna do, **** off now.

[Keanoldinho]

we are shit

[denis-cro]

This is ****ing embarrassing !!!!!!! I hope that Ramos hears the crowd reaction to his stupid, useless tactic !!!!!!

[LifeTimeYido]

We are shocking - a laughing stock.

Ramos has ****ed it with his tactics again.

[Chewy]

deja vu from last season anybody? im so sick of these ****ing great pre seasons with all the hype of us being even a top 5 team...then this SHIT...

****ing sort it ramos

[nuttyhotspurs]

pool gone and done it again. played shit and got the 3 points

[Keanoldinho]

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[corkspur]

4 points behind ****ing hull!!! sick of this load of shit! we have a bunch of non caring ****s wearing the shirt!ah well only chelsea away next!

[peterc]

Well done Mr Ramos, 4th position and Champions league, dream on, we continue this way, we will be fighting relegation. No excuses, Sunderland have quite a few new players too, we are shit.:o :o :mad: :mad:

[nuttyhotspurs]

ramos better come out and explain his tactics and the shit decisions he has made. hes one of the highest paid managers in the league so LEARN SOME ****IN ENGLISH YOU THICK ****!

[spursmadnick06]

We look as bad if not worse than the beginning of last season.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Rock Bottom Lmao

[Sumsio]

****s! Is All That Has Be Said Cheers For Not Buying A World Class Striker Ramos You Clueless Prick...thanks for ruining our season already

[inthewoods]

Darren Bent did nothing. Nadda. Zip. Zilch. Absolutely non-existent. Might as well have been sitting here with me drinking cups of tea. I know you are all going to say that the midfield werent supplying him with any decent balls, but he was just giving them nothing to pass to. Couldnt win a header. Sleeping everytime a corner came in. We're suppose to rely on this guy getting us goals ON HIS OWN?! ****ing completely useless.

I dont know what else to say. That was pure horse shit.

[peterc]

Thought that Ramos was brought in to TAKE US A STEP FORWARD AND NOT FOUR BACKWARDS. Christmas might be coming early.

[Keanoldinho]

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[denis-cro]

What is the most arrogant thing in this situation is that almost all members of this forum were sure that today´s Spurs line up-tactic wont be successful to overcome Sunderland... We were so poor today that even Andy "200 kilos" Reid looks like WC midfielder.... I´m absolutely furious at the moment... ****ing hell...

[Keanoldinho]

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[corkspur]

gettin a bit boring billyandthebollox!!!

[jrio]

Stop spamming the thread you prick. :mad:

If you've got nothing constructive to contribute, then just **** off you lame-brained bollox ****.

[nuttyhotspurs]

the poll was WAYYY out again. got it right this week. im sure ill get it right next week aswell

[Keanoldinho]

Stop spamming the thread you prick. :mad:

If you've got nothing constructive to contribute, then just **** off you lame-brained bollox ****.



'haha **** you

[McSpurs]

Well lads, that was ****in tosh. Why was our best player not even on the bench? I've got a bad feelin about this season. Sort it out Ramos!:mad:

[peterc]

gettin a bit boring billyandthebollox!!!


I know what you are saying mate but one cannot argue with him cos he 100% correct.

[nuttyhotspurs]

you lame-brained bollox ****.

lol that made me smile for the first time today!!

[inthewoods]

**** me....there isnt a high hope in hell we're gonna beat Chelsea next week. Or manage a draw for that matter. What the hell is happening? Our season is crumbling in front of our very eyes and its only two matches into the season. Jesus Christ, we didnt even look like scoring until they did. I feel so damn sick its painful.

[jrio]

'haha **** you

That's your limit. Now just **** off, arsewipe.

[jrio]

I know what you are saying mate but one cannot argue with him cos he 100% correct.
Don't encourage him. He can put it in one line, instead of 2 posts each a page long.

[Keanoldinho]

Don't encourage him. He can put it in one line, instead of 2 posts each a page long.

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that ones for you ya soft old bitch

[peterc]

Don't encourage him. He can put it in one line, instead of 2 posts each a page long.


I think that you might have mate.

[Keanoldinho]

I think that you might have mate.


he's abit intellectually limited so he might not catch on to that. He reminds me of our midfield weak, soft and shit

[Neil_Vaughan]

Calm it down a bit lads, we're all a bit frustrated