This Season In Perspective

[Keanoldinho]

We don't have a hope in hell of a top 4 finish this season so we can forget about that. Afew reason are


1. Our real club captain has knackered knees

2. JJ is now our captain and he's shite

3. Daws is a starter at cb and he's shite

4. We're a soft touch with no fight in midfield. Players like Malbranque and Tainio were always up for a scrap but players like Jenas and Hudd aren't.

5. Our squad depth is deceptively shite

6. We sold Keano and Berbatov is as good as gone so that's 45+ goals that Bent and Giovani would be lucky to score half of.

Also 5th place will be a struggle in my eyes because Villa look bloody good and unlike us they didn't sell their captain to the scousers on the contrary they told them to **** off. They also have a very balanced team with pace, skill, bottle, spirit and fight.

I'm also starting to wonder about Levys true ambition all we hear about is the money we spend but in actuality we haven't even broke the 10 mil net spend mark this transfer window. We also still need a CB, DM and LW which has been the case for well over a year and now we have the joy of adding a 45+ goals a season strike partnership to that.

I'll finish up by saying I believe Ramos to be the right man for the job and I hope he is given the opportunity to honour his 5 year contract and sign another one because the only way to achieve any sort of success in this league on the long term is through stability. I'd also like to say top 6 is as good as it's going to get this season unless Levy really pulls the checkbook out and signs some real quality in the next 2 weeks to fill in our many glaring weaknesses.

We've got some very skillful players in our squad mainly the new guys but without players like Barry, Senna or Cambiasso to do the dirty work and shut up shop they'll get kicked all over the park and bullied out the game. JJ as our captain is the biggest shock I've had in ages it speaks volumes about the mentality of our squad he's an absolute ponce and our national team is ****ed too.

Anyway COYS I look forward to another season of the lowest of lows and the highest of highs there's nothing like supporting Tottenham.:)

[apr82]

agree with most of your post but fear there wont be many highs.it may be a case of deja vu early oct 4pts from 6 or 7 games.levy pained expression on his face.

[TURKISH]

God you might as well just commit suicide as well.:eek:

[apr82]

won t be me but it might be levy

[gazzaG8]

I know the cliche you are only as good as your last game & if thats the case, we're shocking to say the least.
But aren't you umping the gun Billy old boy?

[Shelfside]

We don't have a hope in hell of a top 4 finish this season so we can forget about that. Afew reason are


1. Our real club captain has knackered knees

2. JJ is now our captain and he's shite

3. Daws is a starter at cb and he's shite

4. We're a soft touch with no fight in midfield. Players like Malbranque and Tainio were always up for a scrap but players like Jenas and Hudd aren't.

5. Our squad depth is deceptively shite

6. We sold Keano and Berbatov is as good as gone so that's 45+ goals that Bent and Giovani would be lucky to score half of.

Also 5th place will be a struggle in my eyes because Villa look bloody good and unlike us they didn't sell their captain to the scousers on the contrary they told them to **** off. They also have a very balanced team with pace, skill, bottle, spirit and fight.

I'm also starting to wonder about Levys true ambition all we hear about is the money we spend but in actuality we haven't even broke the 10 mil net spend mark this transfer window. We also still need a CB, DM and LW which has been the case for well over a year and now we have the joy of adding a 45+ goals a season strike partnership to that.

I'll finish up by saying I believe Ramos to be the right man for the job and I hope he is given the opportunity to honour his 5 year contract and sign another one because the only way to achieve any sort of success in this league on the long term is through stability. I'd also like to say top 6 is as good as it's going to get this season unless Levy really pulls the checkbook out and signs some real quality in the next 2 weeks to fill in our many glaring weaknesses.

We've got some very skillful players in our squad mainly the new guys but without players like Barry, Senna or Cambiasso to do the dirty work and shut up shop they'll get kicked all over the park and bullied out the game. JJ as our captain is the biggest shock I've had in ages it speaks volumes about the mentality of our squad he's an absolute ponce and our national team is ****ed too.

Anyway COYS I look forward to another season of the lowest of lows and the highest of highs there's nothing like supporting Tottenham.:)

100% agreed.As Choda and myself said in another thread,we never replaced Edgar Davids.That guy wanted to win.He gave the other players that kick up the arse they need and he wouldn't accept any slackening of standards.That is why he was at the top of his profession.He had achieved so much in the game,but he still had that hunger and this is the crucial thing.
How our midfield needs a leader like him.

[Keanoldinho]

God you might as well just commit suicide as well.:eek:



So what do you think? Top 4?

It's not about commiting suicide. It's just a realistic point of view regarding this season. We have alot of new key players and we're trying to adopt a new style of play and add to that we do have some serious shite still in our starting 11 in key positions. Daws was at fault for all 3 of their goals the 2 that counted and the 1 that didn't he shite on par with Gardner. Wheater is a beast and everything Daws is supposed to be plus he's younger. Add to that we've got the worst captain I've ever seen at the club in my almost 20 years of supporting us and Berby with one foot out the door.

Euro qualification is not going to be a stroll in the park and top 4 is way outta reach we not good enough or deep enough.

[Indianspur]

I think Ramos may change things round if things dont work and that is the difference between him and Jol.Jol just kept playing the same crap team and did not change tactics last season when we were in the relegation places.

WHen hutton comes back i think we need to get zok into midfield as he is the neearest thing to tough tackling we are gonna get. Of course it would be great to sign a DM but it may not happen with 2 weeks to get a striker being our priority.

I;d sacrifice lennon and play gio left wing and bent as lone striker.
Next game we know modric and jenas will not be dropped so zokora inbetween would compliment them,

[berbzy 'G']

I disagree, Just because we lost the first game of the season doesnt mean we are will not get a top 4 finish...

[TURKISH]

So what do you think? Top 4?

It's not about commiting suicide. It's just a realistic point of view regarding this season. We have alot of new key players and we're trying to adopt a new style of play and add to that we do have some serious shite still in our starting 11 in key positions. Daws was at fault for all 3 of their goals the 2 that counted and the 1 that didn't he shite on par with Gardner. Wheater is a beast and everything Daws is supposed to be plus he's younger. Add to that we've got the worst captain I've ever seen at the club in my almost 20 years of supporting us and Berby with one foot out the door.

Euro qualification is not going to be a stroll in the park and top 4 is way outta reach we not good enough or deep enough.

I said the same when jol had two bad starts lets see where we are in 10 games time, i just feel people are going over board i would be more worried if we had a perfect team out there and still lost.

[Keanoldinho]

I know the cliche you are only as good as your last game & if thats the case, we're shocking to say the least.
But aren't you umping the gun Billy old boy?



Not really mate just lowering my expectations because frankly we're not good enough to break top 4 this season and MON is building a very good team over at Villa that's balanced and gets stuck in.

I had high expectations but a starting defence of

Zokora Dawson Woodgate Ekotto

have shot it to shit

[Keanoldinho]

I disagree, Just because we lost the first game of the season doesnt mean we are will not get a top 4 finish...



berbs you're deluded at the best of times but mate who are we going to knock out the top 4?

Pool and the scum have a better starting 11 and a deeper squad and Villa have a very good starting 11 too so even 5th place will be a big ask.

[gazzaG8]

But with the first choice back 4 fit (Hutton, Ledley,Woodgate,Bale) & a DM we'd be fine. We've got the creativity in the forward line to score goals with or without Berbatov imo.

I know we won't get much joy with Ledley, but another first choice CB

[Indianspur]

i agree with hutton and bale in the defence we will be a different team..lets just hope he plans to play him as LB.
We know spurs will always have some queer results and then we will hammer someone the following week.
As long as we win next week i still believe we can finish top 5.

[TURKISH]

But with the first choice back 4 fit (Hutton, Ledley,Woodgate,Bale) & a DM we'd be fine. We've got the creativity in the forward line to score goals with or without Berbatov imo.

Agree i think if we get a win against sunderland we will go on a run. I think we are a confidence team which is can be a good thing or can be bad. We will still be bringing players in and hopefully we can kick on against sunderland.

[Keanoldinho]

But with the first choice back 4 fit (Hutton, Ledley,Woodgate,Bale) & a DM we'd be fine. We've got the creativity in the forward line to score goals with or without Berbatov imo.



I agree with that first part but Ledleys knee is knackered and Hutton, Woody and Bale are injury prone add to that we don't have a DM and our back ups are all shit

[berbzy 'G']

berbs you're deluded at the best but mate who are we going to knock out the top 4?

Pool and the scum have a better starting 11 and a deeper squad and Villa have a very good starting 11 too so even 5th place will be a big ask.

I aint given up Hope, But I jus hope we get rid of Berba**** hes a bad influence to the team as Shearer said on motd... Arsenal wont get in the top 4 this season

[TURKISH]

Why did we get rid of tainio i would of played him!

[denis-cro]

Had so much hope before yesterday´s game, but TBH, theres nothing changed ... we were again shit defensively, and committing same mistakes... So, there´s no more hope for me, because nothing has changed... I even lost my faith in Ramos...he had so much time to prepare the squad for Boro game, and they were all over us . ****ing Boro !!!! So, my expectations for the season are 14th place in the Premiership, and a good run out in the cups...

[jrio]

Also 5th place will be a struggle in my eyes because Villa look bloody good and unlike us they didn't sell their captain to the scousers on the contrary they told them to **** off. They also have a very balanced team with pace, skill, bottle, spirit and fight.

No they didn't. They were willing to sell him for 18m but Liverpool were unwilling to pay it.

[choda]

In my opinion there are legitimate concerns but there is also a hell of a lot of knee jerking pesimism going on here too. Let Ramos get on with it. I bet he is a patient bastard at getting who he wants and at what price.

And the left wing is fine as far as I am concerned with Santos, Bale, Gilberto and Bentley all able to play there effectively.

And I would say of equal concern was the team he picked and how they didn't turn up. It's not just a lack of personnel in some areas, you also have to get the team very purposeful about organisation and work rate. I can name plenty of successful prem teams that don't have the most physical or imposing players but they make up for it with desire and use their skill when they have the ball.

This is the job ahead of Ramos and I still believe he is a great manager and will do great things here. I would not write us off yet this year either, after one game it is stupid to do that without giving the new manager in his first full season a decent amount of time. He's a very shrewd man and has a fantastic record.

[MarlowSpurs]

****ing ell we are only a point behind Man U

[TURKISH]

In my opinion there are legitimate concerns but there is also a hell of a lot of knee jerking pesimism going on here too. Let Ramos get on with it. I bet he is a patient bastard at getting who he wants and at what price.

And the left wing is fine as far as I am concerned with Santos, Bale, Gilberto and Bentley all able to play there effectively.

And I would say of equal concern was the team he picked and how they didn't turn up. It's not just a lack of personnel in some areas, you also have to get the team very purposeful about organisation and work rate. I can name plenty of successful prem teams that don't have the most physical or imposing players but they make up for it with desire and use their skill when they have the ball.

This is the job ahead of Ramos and I still believe he is a great manager and will do great things here. I would not write us off yet this year either, after one game it is stupid to do that without giving the new manager in his first full season a decent amount of time. He's a very shrewd man and has a fantastic record.


Agree one game doesn't mean we can't have a good season.

[Keanoldinho]

Agree one game doesn't mean we can't have a good season.


It depends what you define as a good season. We don't have a hope in hell of a top 4 finish so we can close the book on that unless we're planning on buying 4 more players who're top quality in our weakest positions.

[TURKISH]

It depends what you define as a good season. We don't have a hope in hell of a top 4 finish so we can close the book on that unless we're planning on buying 4 more players who're top quality in our weakest positions.

A good cup run for me and top 6.

[Keanoldinho]

No they didn't. They were willing to sell him for 18m but Liverpool were unwilling to pay it.



MON just about blew a gasket when Rafa started talking up a Barry move. The only reason he put a price on him was Barry asked for the transfer and publically disrespected MON and Villa.

[choda]

It depends what you define as a good season. We don't have a hope in hell of a top 4 finish so we can close the book on that unless we're planning on buying 4 more players who're top quality in our weakest positions.

At the end of last season I said if we buy five top players at keeper, centre back, defensive mid, attacking mid and left wing we will at least challenge the top four. Three of those have been bought and if the other two are purchased I will stand by what I said. Otherwise I will have to revise what I think we can do this year.

[Keanoldinho]

A good cup run for me and top 6.


I'd be happy with that too but I'm just sick of watching Daws and JJ playing key roles in our team and performing shite in the process. JJ as captain is a fecking joke and a very bad one at that.

[berbzy 'G']

I see the disadvantages off not finishing forth, But the advantages like our midfield which looks stronger than I've seen for years will be brilliant if Ramos can bring in the right strikers...

[Keanoldinho]

At the end of last season I said if we buy five top players at keeper, centre back, defensive mid, attacking mid and left wing we will at least challenge the top four. Three of those have been bought and if the other two are purchased I will stand by what I said. Otherwise I will have to revise what I think we can do this year.



but did you expect to lose our 45+ goals a season strike partnership?

I sure as feck didn't and with Berby starting on the bench to me that's a clear indicator he's off this week. He's our best player head and shoulders above the rest and irreplacable.

[Keanoldinho]

I see the disadvantages off not finishing forth, But the advantages like our midfield which looks stronger than I've seen for years will be brilliant if Ramos can bring in the right strikers...



berps our midfield is still a soft touch ok it can pass better this season but there's still no steel and now JJ is our ****ing captain we're ****ed until that changes plain and simple he's shit and not the foil we need for Modric

[berbzy 'G']

berps our midfield is still a soft touch ok it can pass better this season but there's still no steel and now JJ is our ****ing captain we're ****ed until that changes plain and simple he's shit and not the foil we need for Modric

So we basically need a new CM?

[choda]

but did you expect to lose our 45+ goals a season strike partnership?

I sure as feck didn't and with Berby starting on the bench to me that's a clear indicator he's off this week. He's our best player head and shoulders above the rest and irreplacable.

He's not gone yet. Just wait and see what happens. I still like the look of us going forward. And I don't think he is head and shoulders above Modric, Dos Santos, Woodgate and King (if we get him fit again). I think you are getting ahead of yourself there and you had a completely different opinion two months ago about him and also about JJ.

I've always said the same things about those players and have not changed it much at all.

[Keanoldinho]

So we basically need a new CM?



aswell as a new brain for you

[choda]

I'd nearly buy Kenyqne Jones. He's unplayable with his pace, height and strength and setups up so many goals. We have plenty of guile I would like to buy a few power players.

[Keanoldinho]

He's not gone yet. Just wait and see what happens. I still like the look of us going forward. And I don't think he is head and shoulders above Modric, Dos Santos, Woodgate and King (if we get him fit again). I think you are getting ahead of yourself there and you had a completely different opinion two months ago about him and also about JJ.

I've always said the same things about those players and have not changed it much at all.



What possible reason could there of been for not starting our best player other than him being off?

He is alot further along than Modric and Giovani because he's a more complete player and proven in this league. I'll give you Woody but King is knackered.

I did defend JJ for awhile but him being appointed captain is bloody awful he should be a squad player not our bloody captain that's the worst decsion Ramos has made since he got here.

[berbzy 'G']

aswell as a new brain for you

what makes you say that?

[Keanoldinho]

I'd nearly buy Kenyqne Jones. He's unplayable with his pace, height and strength and setups up so many goals. We have plenty of guile I would like to buy a few power players.



good shout but Keane paid big money for Jones and he wouldn't come cheap. I do like him though and think he could become a very good player. I like the kid Agbonlahor too he's very explosive and powerful too. How Heskey got a call up before him I'll never know.

[Keanoldinho]

what makes you say that?



statements like this from you


"We just need 2 strikers and we should be crusing"

[choda]

What possible reason could there of been for not starting our best player other than him being off?

He is alot further along than Modric and Giovani because he's a more complete player and proven in this league. I'll give you Woody but King is knackered.

I did defend JJ for awhile but him being appointed captain is bloody awful he should be a squad player not our bloody captain that's the worst decsion Ramos has made since he got here.

He didn't actually start against Boro last year either. Ramos believes pace is the way to expose the Boro defence, apparently, and would have Berba ready on the bench.

It could be that he is off, but it could be exactly what he said as that is exactly what he did last year too.

I think Modric and Santos are behind him development obviously, he is at his peak, but they will be flying it soon, I am sure of that. They can be better than Berba, they can be some of the best players in the world. So can Berba but I don't think he has the desire frankly.

I think Hutton and Bale are going to be fantastic players as well.

[berbzy 'G']

statements like this from you


"We just need 2 strikers and we should be crusing"

Well dont you think we need strikers after losing Keane and Berbatov?

[Keanoldinho]

He didn't actually start against Boro last year either. Ramos believes pace is the way to expose the Boro defence, apparently, and would have Berba ready on the bench.

It could be that he is off, but it could be exactly what he said as that is exactly what he did last year too.

I think Modric and Santos are behind him development obviously, he is at his peak, but they will be flying it soon, I am sure of that. They can be better than Berba, they can be some of the best players in the world. So can Berba but I don't think he has the desire frankly.



I would've thought the best way to exploit boros defence with pace would've been Giovani and Lennon playing off Berbatov with him holding the ball up and drawing there defenders out thus creating space behind them for the 2 quick skill dribblers to exploit. I don't know but if we lose Berby and Keano which is looking very likely this season could be a write off or at very best top 6 but that will be a battle.

[peterc]

I would've thought the best way to exploit boros defence with pace would've been Giovani and Lennon playing off Berbatov with him holding the ball up and drawing there defenders out thus creating space behind them for the 2 quick skill dribblers to exploit. I don't know but if we lose Berby and Keano which is looking very likely this season could be a write off or at very best top 6 but that will be a battle.

You seem to be questioning Ramos's tactics Choda, thought you believed him to be one of the best managers in the world.

[Keanoldinho]

Well dont you think we need strikers after losing Keane and Berbatov?


yes but until our 2 major weaknesses in the spine of the team are fixed we'll not be cruising.

[Keanoldinho]

You seem to be questioning Ramos's tactics Choda, thought you believed him to be one of the best managers in the world.


I'm Mr. Bollox to you mate, choda is the Irishman who likes talking about bum:D

haha but I do rate Ramos among the best in the world in his profession but that doesn't mean I can't talk about the decsions he makes. Why what's your problem or are you just here to make more smart arse remarks and continually say "I honestly don't know".

[peterc]

I'm Mr. Bollox to you mate, choda is the Irishman who likes talking about bum:D

haha but I do rate Ramos among the best in the world in his profession but that doesn't mean I can't talk about the decsions he makes. Why what's your problem or are you just here to make more smart arse remarks and continually say "I honestly don't know".

I'm wearing my wrong specs and I thought it was Choda's post, my apologies, just wanted to wind him up a bit:p . As regards to Ramos, I will wait until Christmas to see how far Ramos will take us this sesson and then I will give my opinion, too early for anyone to know.

[jrio]

I'm wearing my wrong specs and I thought it was Choda's post, my apologies, just wanted to wind him up a bit:p . As regards to Ramos, I will wait until Christmas to see how far Ramos will take us this sesson and then I will give my opinion, too early for anyone to know.
Which Christmas? :D

Reminds me of Chairman Mao who, when asked in the 60s if he considered the French Revolution to have been a success, replied: "It is too early to say".

[gomessi]

yes but until our 2 major weaknesses in the spine of the team are fixed we'll not be cruising.

So I take it you dont think we are going to get arshavin, veloso a cb and berbs replacement.

Your views could be spot on if we dont get the above. However if we get these players in I'm sure you will be thinking top 4 is nailed on (was this not your opinion before the season started).

Still time left in the transfer window - we at spurs are known to buy late in the transfer window.

[Keanoldinho]

So I take it you dont think we are going to get arshavin, veloso a cb and berbs replacement.

Your views could be spot on if we dont get the above. However if we get these players in I'm sure you will be thinking top 4 is nailed on (was this not your opinion before the season started).

Still time left in the transfer window - we at spurs are known to buy late in the transfer window.


Top 4 is never nailed on for outsiders like us regardless of who we buy but I've already stated in this thread if we buy 4 more top quality player to fill our weakest positions we could challenge for a CL spot.

Right now I don't think we will and top 6 is the best we can hope for. At the minute I think Villa have a better starting line-up than us atleast the spine of their team has steel and fight in it.

GK Freidel and Gomes - They're both quality

RB Young and Hutton - They're both good Hutton probably alittle better

LB Shorey and Bale - Bale is better but Shorey is a good player

CB Laursen and Woody - both quality

CB Cuellar/Davies and King/Dawson - Daws is shit and Ledley is knackered were as Davies is a good prospect and Cuellar is quality

CM Barry and Jenas - Barry is twice the player of JJ

CM Reo-Coker and Modric - Modric is better but Reo-Coker can tackle is always up for a scrap and gets stuck in plus he's still pretty young and better than JJ at holding because he's not a soft touch.


Going by that I'd say Villa have a very solid spine and no real weaknesses were as we have 2 very big ones.

[berbzy 'G']

Top 4 is never nailed on for outsiders like us regardless of who we buy but I've already stated in this thread if we buy 4 more top quality player to fill our weakest positions we could challenge for a CL spot.

Right now I don't think we will and top 6 is the best we can hope for. At the minute I think Villa have a better starting line-up than us atleast the spine of their team has steel and fight in it.

GK Freidel and Gomes - They're both quality

RB Young and Hutton - They're both good Hutton probably alittle better

LB Shorey and Bale - Bale is better but Shorey is a good player

CB Laursen and Woody - both quality

CB Cuellar/Davies and King/Dawson - Daws is shit and Ledley is knackered were as Davies is a good prospect and Cuellar is quality

CM Barry and Jenas - Barry is twice the player of JJ

CM Reo-Coker and Modric - Modric is better but Reo-Coker can tackle is always up for a scrap and gets stuck in plus he's still pretty young and better than JJ at holding because he's not a soft touch.


Going by that I'd say Villa have a very solid spine and no real weaknesses were as we have 2 very big ones.

I agree that Barry is better than JJ and Cuellar is proberbly better than King IMO... But I noticed you did not compare the strike force, as we have **** all strikers tbh, Ramos is starting to annoy me

[Defoe8]

I predicted a 6th place finish, so not bothered about breaking the top 4 this season.

We've always lacked a decent DM player, but maybe there just aren't any available that are better than the ones we have and the top ones like Senna probs laughed in our faces and told us never in a million years. Same with the centre back situation :(

We've been forced to make Jenas captain as there is no one else that's been at the club as long as him in our starting XI.

[fluke]

Which Christmas? :D

Reminds me of Chairman Mao who, when asked in the 60s if he considered the French Revolution to have been a success, replied: "It is too early to say".

Hate to be a dick but it was Zhou Enlai. Think he's playing for Everton now.:)

[MiloMinderbinder]

Why did we get rid of tainio i would of played him!

It's another one of the Forumer Formerly Known as KingKeane's "I told you so" moments. You just don't get rid of players like TT and Malbranque, they fight, bleed and dies for the cause. Unlike some supposedly more talented players I could mention.

[MiloMinderbinder]

I'd nearly buy Kenyqne Jones. He's unplayable with his pace, height and strength and setups up so many goals. We have plenty of guile I would like to buy a few power players.

Yeah, well I'd nearly buy Adriano, then I'd change my mind, deposit most of the money in my own bank account, make a small donation to charity before ****ing off to Vanu'atu.

"Nearly buy", what the **** does that mean?!

[wayne wonder]

Knowing spurs we'll go out buy 2 strikers and no defensive mid or defender or a ****ing proper left winger thats we've needed for like 5years!!

Seriously makes u wonder if they know what they're doing because the midfield is powder puff at the mo and away from home i can see us beat again and again:(

[peterc]

Which Christmas? :D

Reminds me of Chairman Mao who, when asked in the 60s if he considered the French Revolution to have been a success, replied: "It is too early to say".

Obviously, intelligent people think alike.:p

[choda]

I predicted a 6th place finish, so not bothered about breaking the top 4 this season.

We've always lacked a decent DM player, but maybe there just aren't any available that are better than the ones we have and the top ones like Senna probs laughed in our faces and told us never in a million years. Same with the centre back situation :(

We've been forced to make Jenas captain as there is no one else that's been at the club as long as him in our starting XI.

FREDDY GUARIN, Columbian playing for St. Etienne (Zokora's old club), ball winner, strong, athletic, likes a tackle, very comfortable on the ball, good passer. Zokora was highly rated in France and especially at that club where he played. I'd offer him back in some kind of deal taking Guarin the other way. Let's buy him before Lyon do as then his price will double overnight and he will be much harder to get.

[wayne wonder]

Everyone wants a DM and CB but you know we're not gonna get neither it seems every ****er at white hart lane bar the fans can see it we'll end up with 2 strikers and that will be it because we dont do things by half.

Stephen Appiah is available on a free we could easily snap him up but we'll probably watch him go to wet spam or pompey or summat like that.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Stephen Appiah is available on a free we could easily snap him up but we'll probably watch him go to wet spam or pompey or summat like that.

Not been fit for a good couple of season, a massive risk for whoever takes a punt on him.

[Keanoldinho]

We need to take a punt on someone because right now JJ and Daws are liable to **** our whole season up because they're both weak and shit.

Is it any coincedence they're both on the OS today talking about looking forward to the next game and not dwelling on their shite performances against boro.

This could be a very long season if them 2 play week in week out which I suspect they will. I can see us getting a CB but I'm not to confident about a DM.

[choda]

Yeah, well I'd nearly buy Adriano, then I'd change my mind, deposit most of the money in my own bank account, make a small donation to charity before ****ing off to Vanu'atu.

"Nearly buy", what the **** does that mean?!

'Nearly buy' means I am dubious about spending what would certainly be big money, but I do believe he has enormous potential.

[MiloMinderbinder]

'Nearly buy' means I am dubious about spending what would certainly be big money, but I do believe he has enormous potential.

I'm nearly going to call you an arsehole :p

Jones is good not great, a handful but then so is Heskey.

[choda]

I'm nearly going to call you an arsehole :p

Jones is good not great, a handful but then so is Heskey.

I'm nearly going to smack you plumb on your big nose. :p Is that racist? Lol.

I never said he was great, you monkey, I said he was good and could be great as on his day he is unstoppable. :p And before you say Heskey has those days too, he has one or two a year, but Jones had about 10 last year.

And I did say 'nearly', I didn't say I would definitely ***** up the cash. He is someone I would take a good look at though along with Santa Cruz, Ashton, Milito and Huntelaar.

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I'm nearly going to smack you plumb on your big nose. :p Is that racist? Lol.

I never said he was great, you monkey, I said he was good and could be great as on his day he is unstoppable. :p And before you say Heskey has those days too, he has one or two a year, but Jones had about 10 last year.

And I did say 'nearly', I didn't say I would definitely ***** up the cash. He is someone I would take a good look at though along with Santa Cruz, Ashton, Milito and Huntelaar.

It's not racist, but it could be offensive. There's a real lack of understanding re the difference between racism and predjudice. e.g. I can't be racist towards you as the Irish aren't a race but a (drunk) nationality. :cool:

If we had a left winger who coud cross the ball I'd agree. You need to wingers to service (stop tittering at the back) a striker like Jones.

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It's not racist, but it could be offensive. There's a real lack of understanding re the difference between racism and predjudice. e.g. I can't be racist towards you as the Irish aren't a race but a (drunk) nationality. :cool:

If we had a left winger who coud cross the ball I'd agree. You need to wingers to service (stop tittering at the back) a striker like Jones.

Lol, well that is true on all three counts.

Perhaps a little harsh on Jones though. I think he has a lot to his game and could even become another Drogba. Big ask but I see that kind of potential in him.

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Not my finest comment there I have to say, I apologise if it was offensive. :o