Sundrland want Spurs four

[gazzaG8]

Breaking news on SSN Sunderland have apparently inquired about Chimbonda, Steeeeed, Kaboul & TT

[jrio]

All except Kaboul were said to be flying back from Spain because of offers from clubs. I'd envisaged that potentially Villa could be bidding for the other 3. Sunderland for all 4 seems crazy(Kaboul?), especially as Jones is going to be missing for at least 5 months. Choda, what do you make of this?

[choda]

The Irish consortium have the financial muscle to spend big. And to say they have faith in Keane is an understatement. They backed him from the word go and now that he has done a pretty superb job they are quite likely to front up massive money this summer, should he want it.

By my reckoning the 4 names mentioned would cost around 18 million pounds and it would be a profit of 3-6 million for us, 18 million coming in and good players for Sunderland. It is a very real possibility I would say and it is being widely reported all over the place.

I hope Tainio isn't leaving but 3 million or so represents great business on a player nearly 30 we got for free and gets so many injuries.

I tally it up as Tainio 3 million, Kaboul 6 million, Chimbo 5 million and Mal 4 million.

I'm not over the moon about Kaboul going either as I think he has big potential. And Mal is a quality little player to have on the bench, but it's not a huge loss if he intends to bring in another top winger and keep lennon.

All in all it is acceptable in both directions as far as I am concerned. As for Jones, yes that is a factor but I honestly think they will give Keane 40 million to spend because he is proving himself to be an excellent manager and there is little chance of them going down if he gets the players he needs. He stayed up last year with a very ordinary squad aside from a few players and one or two good kids.

If he gets 18-20 million to get hardballed by Levy and get his players then I think another striker and another defender will come in after that too.

[gazzaG8]

I'd have to agree, Kaboul has great potential & it would be a shame to see him go along with TT & Steeeeed.
All four could be good additions at Sunderland imo.

[jrio]

Sun says 14m which is the bargain price that makes sense(mine was 13m). I don't see that Kaboul would be the CB they need. The others have experience and pedigree. Kenwynne Jones seems to be out for 2 months, not till January as was reported, but that is still a big blow.

I just think Keane has over-spent on a number of below average players, some of which soon left, Greg Halford for one. Gordon and Chopra were massive over-spends, Jones a shrewd buy and Reid not unreasonable.

[gazzaG8]

What was it? £5 million for Chopra & £2 million for Jones?

[choda]

Sun says 14m which is the bargain price that makes sense(mine was 13m). I don't see that Kaboul would be the CB they need. The others have experience and pedigree. Kenwynne Jones seems to be out for 2 months, not till January as was reported, but that is still a big blow.

I just think Keane has over-spent on a number of below average players, some of which soon left, Greg Halford for one. Gordon and Chopra were massive over-spends, Jones a shrewd buy and Reid not unreasonable.

Well taking McShane out, putting in Evans and Bardsly was massive. And the other massives were Jones and Reid. That is quite simply what kept them up. After that the other lads came into some form too, Murphy, Yorke and Richiardson.

His spending was questionable on a few counts but you can't argue with the job he has done. The bad mistakes he sorted pretty quickly in fairness to him.

Reid was a really huge coup. He put him in the middle and having struggled to keep the ball all season suddenly they could hold onto it and they had a class act passer and visionary to make things happen. I'm a big fan of Jones too, he causes all sorts of problems and is great for the team, wins so many headers and is very quick.

But Reid meant they could actually get a foothold in games and get some territory. Before that they were trying to play but it was painful watching them give the ball away so often and putting themselves under so much pressure.

[choda]

Sun says 14m which is the bargain price that makes sense(mine was 13m). I don't see that Kaboul would be the CB they need. The others have experience and pedigree. Kenwynne Jones seems to be out for 2 months, not till January as was reported, but that is still a big blow.

I just think Keane has over-spent on a number of below average players, some of which soon left, Greg Halford for one. Gordon and Chopra were massive over-spends, Jones a shrewd buy and Reid not unreasonable.

Since when do you get a bargain from levy's spurs though, unless the contract is nearly up?

[choda]

£23 million is being quoted in the Irish Independant as an agreed fee for the four players. Looks like Levy might be at it again. :cool:

[jrio]

Since when do you get a bargain from levy's spurs though, unless the contract is nearly up?
Murphy? Ghaly seems likely, and could be a heavy loss. Money will easily be lost on Kaboul and 1-2m on Chimbo.

@gazzaG8: 6m for Jones. Very good deal, Chopra being a very bad deal at 5m(should have been about half).

[berbzy 'G']

I think we shud sell only Kaboul, Malbranque and Chimbonda... But keep Tainio, Tainio does a much better job at CDM than Zokora or Hudd

[jrio]

£23 million is being quoted in the Irish Independant as an agreed fee for the four players. Looks like Levy might be at it again. :cool:
Listen, if that happens, I will fly to Ireland and not only suck your cock, but also that of the Irish Indie's sports editor. Subsequently, I will have "I'm a Keano bum-boy tattooed on both cheeks of my arse.

You've got to feel I'm pretty confident that won't happen. :cool:

[gazzaG8]

Murphy? Ghaly seems likely, and could be a heavy loss. Money will easily be lost on Kaboul and 1-2m on Chimbo.

@gazzaG8: 6m for Jones. Very good deal, Chopra being a very bad deal at 5m(should have been about half).

I didn't think Jones was that much, but yeah, good deal.
Agree on the Chopra deal, Cardiff must have saw them coming

[choda]

Murphy? Ghaly seems likely, and could be a heavy loss. Money will easily be lost on Kaboul and 1-2m on Chimbo.

@gazzaG8: 6m for Jones. Very good deal, Chopra being a very bad deal at 5m(should have been about half).

But they aren't really bargains as such. That is the most you could get for them. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he turns a profit in that four man deal.

[choda]

Listen, if that happens, I will fly to Ireland and not only suck your cock, but also that of the Irish Indie's sports editor. Subsequently, I will have "I'm a Keano bum-boy tattooed on both cheeks of my arse.

You've got to feel I'm pretty confident that won't happen. :cool:

Jesus, I hope you're right. :eek: :eek: :eek:

[berbzy 'G']

Listen, if that happens, I will fly to Ireland and not only suck your cock, but also that of the Irish Indie's sports editor. Subsequently, I will have "I'm a Keano bum-boy tattooed on both cheeks of my arse.

You've got to feel I'm pretty confident that won't happen. :cool:

You wouldnt complain if it did would you jrio? :eek: :rolleyes:

[choda]

It's now in the daily mail and the times. Stay away from my cock Jrio! :eek: :p

[berbzy 'G']

i dont think he'd be able to resisit

[jrio]

But they aren't really bargains as such. That is the most you could get for them. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he turns a profit in that four man deal.

You'd have to think Keane would be the PL's village idiot if he did allow Levy to turn a profit from those players. Keane's been rash on many occasions in paying for players in the last year, but I think here he smells a bargain. The original rumour was 3 players flying back for an 8m deal. Add in Kaboul for about 5/6m and that does make 13/14m. They could even take the title of Spurs' Old Boys away from Pompey.

[jrio]

It's now in the daily mail and the times. Stay away from my cock Jrio! :eek: :p
I'm not too worried. It's the IRISH Times and the Daily Mail. When has the Mail got a football story right - they're all written by "Sportsmail". As someone said on SC, he was always a banker for that job with a name like that.

[wayne wonder]

Its reported at 23mil but if that was ever the price i'd piss myself laughing and actually i wouldn't want jrio sucking choda's cock thats just plain wrong :eek: so lets hope its 22mil

[olly27]

It will be nothing like 23 million!! When I heard about the news this morning, without hearing the figures mentioned, I quickly did a few sums and came up with 15 million, so 13/14 million sounds a lot more realistic to me.

I would say

Chimbonda - 3/4 mil
Malbranque - 3/4mil
Kaboul - 5/6mil
Tainio - 2 mil

In those regions anyway, 23 million has to be totally inaccurate!

[MiloMinderbinder]

Listen, if that happens, I will fly to Ireland and not only suck your cock, but also that of the Irish Indie's sports editor. Subsequently, I will have "I'm a Keano bum-boy tattooed on both cheeks of my arse.

You've got to feel I'm pretty confident that won't happen. :cool:

....or hoping that it will ;)

[olly27]

....or hoping that it will ;)

End of the day money talks, it always does!!! lol :)

[SurreySpur]

If we get anything upwards of 18million i think its a good deal all round.....

Spurs get good money for 'fringe' players that can be spent on quality players.

Sunderland get four very solid players that will vastly improve the quality of their first team.

[Milney yid]

I still think Steed and Tainio could have a part to play next season, if only around the Christmas period when the squad needs rotating. Chimbo can **** off as far as I'm concerned, thinks he's about 10 times better than he actually is. I actually feel Kaboul has the potential to become a good player, but he won't be good enough to start for us next season, and Sunderland could potentially be a good move for him. Whatever happens, Ramos will have his reasons behind every transfer he carries out, and for that reason I am not worried at all about this transfer window.

[olly27]

I still think Steed and Tainio could have a part to play next season, if only around the Christmas period when the squad needs rotating. Chimbo can **** off as far as I'm concerned, thinks he's about 10 times better than he actually is. I actually feel Kaboul has the potential to become a good player, but he won't be good enough to start for us next season, and Sunderland could potentially be a good move for him. Whatever happens, Ramos will have his reasons behind every transfer he carries out, and for that reason I am not worried at all about this transfer window.

Sensible post and I agree. Still think Ramos is looking to improve the quality in terms of the depth of the squad. I think our squad will look pretty different come the end of August.

[jrio]

SC reporting Chimbo's gone. Don't know where but could be Sunderland or Villa. Also BEN on FTL says:

robbo not gone because they still hope still to use him in bentley deal

the 4 are definitely home as said yesterday e hope to have each one out by end of weekend. add boateng and gardner to players who we hope to ship of by monday as well

diego milto and capel and bentley and Pavlyuchenko all realistic chances of getting them by the next few weeks

told bent unless keane stays which seems very unlikely will now 100% stay

[jrio]

Mal's also gone according to a poster on Coys. My guess on that is Villa.

[choda]

Surrey your private messages are full you SLLAAG. :D

[choda]

If we get anything upwards of 18million i think its a good deal all round.....

Spurs get good money for 'fringe' players that can be spent on quality players.

Sunderland get four very solid players that will vastly improve the quality of their first team.

Anything upwards of 15 million is actually a profit for fringe players and helps the bank balance. Anything equal or better than that is good business in my opinion.

[SurreySpur]

Surrey your private messages are full you SLLAAG. :D

Not anymore!

[choda]

I'm not too worried. It's the IRISH Times and the Daily Mail. When has the Mail got a football story right - they're all written by "Sportsmail". As someone said on SC, he was always a banker for that job with a name like that.

The IRISH times is as high brow as it gets mate. I think all the papers are full of shit, but I can assure you the IRISH times is not any less factual than any of the other broadsheets in Ireland or Britain. :p

[jrio]

Anything upwards of 15 million is actually a profit for fringe players and helps the bank balance. Anything equal or better than that is good business in my opinion.

Anything upwards of 15m and Keane's ability goes further towards the danger signs on the doubt-ometer. He won't get Kaboul or Mal.

I did notice his calm demeanour when responding to the loss of Jones for months yesterday, and couldn't help thinking Fergie would have been spitting blood in similar circumstances. There's a lot to admire in Keane as a manager, but I find his purchases incredibly inconsistent, and veering towards paying at least 50% over the top for average players.

[jrio]

The IRISH times is as high brow as it gets mate. I think all the papers are full of shit, but I can assure you the IRISH times is not any less factual than any of the other broadsheets in Ireland or Britain. :p

I'm not doubting the gravitas of The Irish Times, which is probably a better read than Murdoch's Times, but how accurate are they likely to be on football transfers in the PL, even if there is a huge Irish connection?

[choda]

I'm not doubting the gravitas of The Irish Times, which is probably a better read than Murdoch's Times, but how accurate are they likely to be on football transfers in the PL, even if there is a huge Irish connection?

Don't underestimate the interest in the pl over here mate, it's insane. We have full time journos over in Britain who do nothing else. From my experience they are equally inaccurate, lol.

But sometimes the smoke does reach the point where you can't ignore it. I would be looking for 15-18 million or if the papers are right then Levy has pulled something off again (I can hear the Joe Lewis jokes already, lol).

[jrio]

Don't underestimate the interest in the pl over here mate, it's insane. We have full time journos over in Britain who do nothing else. From my experience they are equally inaccurate, lol.

But sometimes the smoke does reach the point where you can't ignore it. I would be looking for 15-18 million or if the papers are right then Levy has pulled something off again (I can hear the Joe Lewis jokes already, lol).

No, I wouldn't under-estimate the interest, even if 90% is ManU and Liverpool, just the accuracy. Don't you think 23m for the 4 from Keane makes you doubt either Keane's judgment or the journalist? I'd accept:

Kaboul 5m; Chimbo 3m; TT; 1.5m; Steed; 4m - 13.5m

The one I wouldn't sell is TT and Steed I wouldn't be in much of a hurry. The most I'd expect:

Kaboul 6m; Chimbo 4m; TT 2m; Steed 6m - 18m

For 23m I'd expect EVERY poster on this board to suck Keane's cock.