Lack of 'Official' Carrick Denial

[DonJolSpurano]

usually in the past two years, when strong press spec has linked a key player with a move away frm spurs (king, defoe, keane), the official website has released a statement denying the story and insisting the player is not for sale.

however, apart frm MJs comments over the weekend on radio, tv and in his sunday times column, there has been no official club comment.

i'd like to take MJ for his word and id feel let down, as im sure he would too, if carrick was to join ManUre despite his insistence that he's not being sold but i fear it will happen.

[Welsh Spur]

He's been as honest as possible, he's said he wants him to stay which is fine, but if Carrick wants to leave, which could be the case, we'll be forced to sell, but you can be sure Mr. Levy will only sell for a price that suits the club. We don't want to sell him and we don' have to, but there's no point keeping a player who wants to leave, and we'll get £15M+, being as the bastards are robbing our (arguably) best player. I think Carrick either is undecided or has said he's off, so that's why there's been no announcement.

[DonJolSpurano]

indeed. if he wasnt interested there would have been something by now. the fact that he's been stalling over a contract annoys me slightly as well.

if the club offer him a contract on par with king and keano then he surely has no complaints. but if he rejects such a deal, then the greedy little bugger can sod off to manchester.

[shoot_ffs]

may also explain why we were linked with van der vaart earlier. i still think we would get good money for him next year if he progresses next season. Atleast with man utd they can't wait 2 years for a new centre mid. I'm surprised they haven't gone for kevin nolan actually.

[spurs61]

I'm slightly puzzled by this rumour. As I understand it, Man U had Diarra as their first choice but were quoted £24 mil by Lyon, they have also looked at Javier Maschereno of Santos but were also quoted around £20 mil. What I don't get is why we would even consider selling Carrick for less than £20 mil, SWP cost £21 mil and Carrick has proven himself to be a top player in the Premiership and Man U can be considered to be amongst our main rivals next season. I'd be insisting on £20-25 mil or hold onto him until the end of the season, by which point we may have qualified for Champions League and Carrick will still have one year left on his contract. There is no need to sell him now as the entire midfield is geared up to support Carrick and we have sold Mendes who would have been a direct replacement. All this paper talk of replacing Carrick with Zorka is ridiculous, are the articles written by jounos who have never seen either player, Zorka's game is totally differnet to carrick's and lacks any subtley or panache. That said I do think he's a good player and I'd welcome him as a partner for Carrick but not a replacement.

[Welsh Spur]

Zokora Zokora Zokora

[Chaydle]

I think it would't be bad buisiness, I think he wants to go as he hasn't signed a new contract, if we keep him another year then he will only have 1 year left on his contract and his value will depreciate greatly. If we get £15mill then that is a £12.5mill profit in 2 years!
Carrick is a fantastic passer but hasn't got the steel and character we need in the centre of the park when our backs are up against the wall. Zokora and Jenas/Murphy would be a better combo IMO.

[highlander]

indeed the denial from the top should have come by now and the fact it hasnt is worrying. Whats also worrying me about it is the timing. now he's away with Englands he's concentrating entirely on his international career and with top players like Rooney, Neville etc from Man U he may see a move up there as a help to his England career. if he does go Zokora could come in as a proper holding player giving Jenas more freedom but we would lack the passing excellence of Carrick. is the hudd ready to step in, i dunno, what about Wesley Sneider he majorly dominates the play for the dutch. i think we should do whatever it takes to get Carrick to stay, be it making him the highest paid player or what im not sure but as Jol said he is the cornerstone of the team.

[Chinaman]

We'll be attacking at a much faster pace and with real venom if zokora were to replace Carrick.

[spurs61]

We'll be attacking at a much faster pace and with real venom if zokora were to replace Carrick.

But Zokora is a totally different player, I'd agree if we need to replace Jenas but we need someone more like Sneijder who dictates the play from deep and has "the big picture" in his head. Zokora would equally be a superb replaement for Edgar. I'd certainly be thinking about giving Huddlestone an opportunity next season but he needs a more experienced head to learn from.

The latest rumour has us looking at Malbranque but he has less bottle than Carrick. I would agree that we need to learn to attack with more urgency and Zokora would certainly add that to the spine of the team. I wonder if Benoit Pedretti is available from Marseille?

[Welsh Spur]

After his performance the other day I reckon (it'll never happen) Marquez from Barcelona could so an amazing job in the holding role.

[Chinaman]

Zokora was the instigator for a large number of attacks after winning tackles or taking up loose balls.

[highlander]

After his performance the other day I reckon (it'll never happen) Marquez from Barcelona could so an amazing job in the holding role.
granted Marquez did play well the other day but it was against Iran, whos main attacking threat was a 37 year old. Marquez would be average in the prem. he's not great in spain and is very slow, he'd leave us too exposed and his lack of pace would be worrying

[Welsh Spur]

Yeah Henry had him shitting himself in the CL final. My Bad!

[spurs61]

After his performance the other day I reckon (it'll never happen) Marquez from Barcelona could so an amazing job in the holding role.


Lol, I can really see that

Us - "Rapael, how would you like to swap the best team in the world, the best player in the world, the worlds greatest stadium and the opportunity to play Champions League football every year for the chance to wear the world famous Lilywhite shirt?"

Marques - "Real Madrid?"

Us - "No, Spurs"

Marques - "**** off"

[Welsh Spur]

In the current situation of the two clubs, impartially I'd choose spurs over madrid mate. Also, that why I put (it'll never happen).

[spurs61]

In the current situation of the two clubs, impartially I'd choose spurs over madrid mate. Also, that why I put (it'll never happen).

Would you? Actually I was talking about Marques leaving Barca for Spurs but frankly I'd still chose Madrid over Spurs! £100,000 a week to party and put in mediorce performances surrounded by a collection the worlds most talented, laziest players ever seen, sounds like heaven to me. No wonder Beckham does n't want to come back.

[Welsh Spur]

I have two Spurs tattoos on my back, I'm not allowed to play for anyone else :D Could you imagine a topless celebration? The fans would hurl anything they could find if you had the badge of another club!

[spurs61]

I have two Spurs tattoos on my back, I'm not allowed to play for anyone else :D Could you imagine a topless celebration? The fans would hurl anything they could find if you had the badge of another club!

Actually, that's a ****ing great idea! Hold down all the players whilst they're branded with the Cockrel, that'll put a stop to players leaving for pastures a new. How would Carrick explain a giant tatoo across his forehead reading "Property of Tottenham Hotspur FC" to any Manc he might come across?

[MarlowSpurs]

Actually, that's a ****ing great idea! Hold down all the players whilst they're branded with the Cockrel, that'll put a stop to players leaving for pastures a new. How would Carrick explain a giant tatoo across his forehead reading "Property of Tottenham Hotspur FC" to any Manc he might come across?

Easy most Manc's can't read

[Spur]

Lack of information can be explained either way; Carrick is talking to Man U, we are talking to Man U, we are talking to our Carrick replacement, we are talking to Carrick, and any number of everything else.

I'd like to know when Levy is back from Miami to sort out this mess, quite frankly, if he doesn't leave then he is signing a new deal, personally I'd like to know one way or the other right now.

[Billywhizz]

I'd be gutted if Carrick left but i do think it's almost a done deal. Before we bought him he nearly went to Portsmouth and decided against that once he learned of our intrest or he was holding out for the scum. I just feel he's out to feather his own nest and if thats the case take the £15m for him. We then could sign at least 2-3 class midfielders and kick on from there.

Huddlestone can play the role Carrick plays. I think maybe MJ is considering this.

[laspur]

granted Marquez did play well the other day but it was against Iran, whos main attacking threat was a 37 year old. Marquez would be average in the prem. he's not great in spain and is very slow, he'd leave us too exposed and his lack of pace would be worrying
Seems like every Barca game i've seen, Marquez has stood out. He can ping the ball ala Carrick and isn't afraid to get physical. Where he lacks in speed, he makes up by his reading of the game. still think he's on his way to Madrid. Let's sign Zokora and give Hudds a shot.

[Welsh Spur]

Seems like every Barca game i've seen, Marquez has stood out. He can ping the ball ala Carrick and isn't afraid to get physical. Where he lacks in speed, he makes up by his reading of the game. still think he's on his way to Madrid. Let's sign Zokora and give Hudds a shot.

I don't know how Barcelona could sell such a player to their rivals, seems a little stupid to me, also, I don't think Huddlestone is quite ready to fill Carrick's boots, and if he's going I wish he'd just come out and tell us, it really isn't fair on the fans how all of this comes about, if he keeps quiet all summer then goes then he's a bastard. I hate Man United.

[Spur]

Whilst I feel I need to know immediatly perhaps it is better that he is quiet. If he says one way or the other it could lead to us getting less money. If he goes he's a ****. And all the praise over the last 2 years would be thrown out the window with him.

[whistler9027]

Carricks wage demands for any new or improved contract look unlikely to be met by the club...it looks likely he wants a move ..lack of announcement is purely due to timing and the important personalities involved being scattered at the moment..

[Welsh Spur]

I've just read that Jol has been talking to Carrick in Germany, and the club are prepared to make him a top-earner along side King and Keane. If true this is agood sign of intent and MJ is obviously keen on making sure Carrick known he is valued here. I didn't wanna call him a ****, but yeah, I can't say I wont agree if he goes to man U, i remember coming home as a child to see sheringham on tv with a man u badge behind him, as he'd left us. I cried (i was 10) And I've hated those bastards ever since.

[Chinaman]

Seems like every Barca game i've seen, Marquez has stood out. He can ping the ball ala Carrick and isn't afraid to get physical. Where he lacks in speed, he makes up by his reading of the game. still think he's on his way to Madrid. Let's sign Zokora and give Hudds a shot.


Back you all the way in pressing for Zokora.

[Welsh Spur]

yes. Zokora Zokora Zokora

[Spur]

But surely the majority are firmly behind Carrick staying...? Perhaps we should have a vote.

Seeing as i'm very lazy I vote that someone other than me should organise the vote in another thread.

[laspur]

Fergie will get Carrick, we all know it. 15mil. will be met which isn't bad business. We will find another player of his quality trust in Jol everyone. Only difference is the new replacement will be fearless in a tackle.

[Chinaman]

Fergie will get Carrick, we all know it. 15mil. will be met which isn't bad business. We will find another player of his quality trust in Jol everyone. Only difference is the new replacement will be fearless in a tackle.

And a lot quicker.

[Spur]

And will score more than 2 a season.

And be a free-kick specialist.

[England's No.1]

Only difference is the new replacement will be fearless in a tackle.

And a lot quicker.

And will score more than 2 a season.

And be a free-kick specialist.

lol

And who would you suggest we can get for £15 million who has ALL those qualites?

[Spur]

I'm sure theres someone, besides Comolli is the one who gets paid to find the players so we'll let him figure it out.

[Chinaman]

For 15 million, we may not get all those qualities, but definitely we'll get more than what Carrick has.

[Danishspurs]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5082224.stm

ould this mean that united has given up on their interest in Carrick??

[Shuggie13]

Now 15 mil has been quoted it seems a lot more tempting to let him go. I'd prefer him to stay but in the grand scheme of things I'd prefer Defoe to stay over Carrick. For 15mil we can get, as everyone has mentioned, a better replacement plus have change over. That will still leave us around 20 mil from the sponsership.

I can see us selling Carrick and buying two more quality players, plus a few of the 'for the future' players.

[Spur]

I think they could be getting Petit as cover for the new midfielder they get in.

I agree, now that 15mil has been quoted I think I may be starting to change my mind - i'm sure we could find a replacement for him for that much and have change left over...

[Danishspurs]

Don't think you should be so sure that we can find a replacement for carrick, just because we get 15mil for him... At least right now we can't attract the best players around, and I don't think there are many players around playing that holding role as well as carrick...
Can only mention the likes of Pirlo, Xavi, makele and viera that are better at that position.. And we can't get those players..

We don't need the money to atract the big players, the problem is that we are not playing in the CL, and that we aren't a big enough club yet...

[Chinaman]

And Jol may decide to play a formation that does not require a holding MF; and it will be more exciting to watch.
If this new LB is all what he is said to be, both our offensive and defensive capabilities will be enhanced.

[Billywhizz]

It appears ManUre are getting tired of Spurs stance over Carrick and i think they are switching there attention to Armando Petit of Portugal. there has been no news since they have made an approved offer for Carrick and i hope MJ and the board are staying solid on this saying he's not for sale.

[DonJolSpurano]

but MJ likes playing with a deep midfielder. he'll shape the rest of the midfield and attack around that one player.

[JJ]

If 15 mil is enough to buy a better replacement for Carrick, don't you think Utd would be doing that....

You shouldn't be acting as if he is easily replacable, because he isn't. He plays with both feet, he's got fantastic close control, and his vision is superb. He's still fine tuning his game, towards the end of the season he was both better defensively and running with the ball. Granted he didn't score many, but did Essien score any more? No, scoring goals isn't his job, he controls the play and orchestrates from centre mid.

[laspur]

Spurs will get their offer turned down by Carrick. Don't you see Carrick wants to leave Tottenham. We will be fine without him. JJ I know how good he is, Carrick wants united end of story.

[nuttyhotspurs]

if carrick does want to leave then i am really disappointed with him. spurs are the only team who believed in his ability and saved him from obscurity in the championship. if hes rejected £40,000+ a week which is what ive heard, then i agree with what someone else said on here . he can f"£$ off to man u

[Chinaman]

I believe we can be better without him if we get Zokora.

[JJ]

Spurs will get their offer turned down by Carrick. Don't you see Carrick wants to leave Tottenham. We will be fine without him. JJ I know how good he is, Carrick wants united end of story.

I can't honestly believe that he will go.

I could be wrong though....

[highlander]

I believe we can be better without him if we get Zokora.
thats quite an interesting point as although we would lose carricks vision, in zokora we would gain a real holding player which would allow us to play with 2 proper wingers and free up Jenas to be more attacking. could work out but if carrick goes we must sign zokora

[Chinaman]

thats quite an interesting point as although we would lose carricks vision, in zokora we would gain a real holding player which would allow us to play with 2 proper wingers and free up Jenas to be more attacking. could work out but if carrick goes we must sign zokora

Great minds think alike.;)