Match Thread: Everton vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[peterc]

We have shown great improvement, unlucky against Manure, as long as we take those chances, we stand a good chance of winning this one, 1-3 to the mighty yids. COYS.

[Spur]

Can't see us winning for some reason.

Probably the gulf in quality of the midfields.

[Ioang]

Same story as last year I think - luck win for them at WHL, lucky win for us at Goodison.

[neilmcnab]

very tough game both teams got points to prove, a draw wud be great result for us,
but we can win as everton have gone off the boil of late, if we can cope with their attack, then we can beat them on the break, AS every spurs fan knows,WHEN WE TAKE OUR CHANCES, it puts teams on back foot,

we always create 3/5 clear chances , can we be clinical..

c o y s

[wayne wonder]

Im going for a 2-1 win lescott for them and keano and jenas for us

[mjbmedia]

Everton, up to 4th place, gone off the boil??

who knows how we'll play or how we'll defend

[olly27]

I think we will win this 1-2. Berby to score two. I am optimistic as Yobo and Yakuba are missing.

[Gino Ginelli]

Difficult game as always, but they looked inert against Chelsea last week, while we've looked accomplished and dangerous against Arsenal and Man Utd. I see a good win for us here.

[Chewy]

I'd go with

Chimbonda King Huddlestone Gunter (or gilberto?)
Lennon Tainio Jenas Malbranque
Berbatov Keane

[SurreySpur]

I can see us getting a win, Lennon, Keane and Berby to score in a 3-1 win

[peterc]

I'd go with

Chimbonda King Huddlestone Gunter (or gilberto?)
Lennon Tainio Jenas Malbranque
Berbatov Keane

We so good now that we don't need a keeper.:D ;)

[Chewy]

We so good now that we don't need a keeper.:D ;)

Oops cheers for that mate :)

Cerny in goal! ;)

[peterc]

Oops cheers for that mate :)

Cerny in goal! ;)

No problem mate.;)

[corkspur]

cant see us winning this one,hope im proved wrong. 2-2 for me.

[TURKISH]

I can see us winning, we have been playing well of late and everton are due a lose.

2.1 To spurs and berba and keane to score. Cahill for everton.

[deadleyledley]

come on spyrs. this is a very important game for us.
create the chances and take em whhile you get them.
a loss here and we are definately going to qualify in europe via the league.

however i think ramos will come up with a master plan

[Chewy]

Now i'd go for

Chimbonda King Woodgate Gunter in defence :)

[berbzy 'G']

It should be a close one... But I think we'll just snatch it, or most likely get a draw...

Cerny :confused:

Chimbonda King Woodgate Lee (or Gilberto if signed)

Lennon Jenas Malbranque Taarabt

Berbatov Keane

[TURKISH]

My team as follows:

Cerny

chimbo woodgate King O'hara

Lennon Teemu Jenas Steed

Berba Keano

[berbzy 'G']

My team as follows:

Cerny

chimbo woodgate King O'hara

Lennon Teemu Jenas Steed

Berba Keano

lol... I like the way nobodys picking Robinson in goal, But we look set to sign another goal keeper in the summer...

[TURKISH]

lol... I like the way nobodys picking Robinson in goal, But we look set to sign another goal keeper in the summer...

Cerny deserves one more chance, then play robbo for then onwards.

Robbo will play well when he has a good back 4 infront of him. His mate woody will be playing, we have one game a week king and dawson who can play well with either one of them. We need left back sorted so hopefully this gilberto bloke will sign.

[singapore spur]

i always worry when we come up against workman like teams , and i would put everton in that bracket , and one of the most succesful at it this season .
we fare better against teams that let us play a bit and struggle when we are snuffed out and not given time , so as said its going to be a game of few chances but berby is due a goal or two

reckon 1-1 ,

[Spur]

Cerny deserves one more chance, then play robbo for then onwards.

Robbo will play well when he has a good back 4 infront of him. His mate woody will be playing, we have one game a week king and dawson who can play well with either one of them. We need left back sorted so hopefully this gilberto bloke will sign.

Cerny deserves to be number 1 until he ****s up as consistently as Robbo did or Robbo shows form in training.

Funnily enough there were some training pictures the other day and one of them had Robbo surprisingly dropping a ball!

[Keanoldinho]

Cerny

Hutton Woodgate King Gilberto

Lennon Tainio Jenas Malbranque

Berbatov Keane

that line up makes me smile especially the experienced back 4:D

[Gino Ginelli]

Cerny

Hutton Woodgate King Gilberto

Lennon Tainio Jenas Malbranque

Berbatov Keane

that line up makes me smile especially the experienced back 4:D

Am I wrong in thinking that Gilberto won't join us until the summer, and that we're just agreeing the contract?

[Keanoldinho]

Am I wrong in thinking that Gilberto won't join us until the summer, and that we're just agreeing the contract?


depends what report you believe I don't think it would make much sense not getting him until the summer he's 31 already and we need him now

[RuFuS]

lol... I like the way nobodys picking Robinson in goal, But we look set to sign another goal keeper in the summer...

Well that's that theory F*cked.

Robbo

Gunter Woody Hudds O Hara

Lennon Tainio Jenas Malbranque

Berbatov Keane

[LifeTimeYido]

I reckon 2-1 Spurs win - we have been playing better away from home recently and i reckon the Toffees wont know what hit em !!!!

[Baleinho]

Im not really brimming with confidence. There defence is rock hard and they dont half pack a punch in attack. With woody out injured dawsons gonna have to step up again. King was only rested against utd if i recall? Anyway, i think there gonna get one or two past us, AJ has a good record against us.

Honestly, i think we might scrape a 2-1 or maybe a 3-2 with us playing counter attacking football again.

My lineup.

Cerny


Gilberto Dawson King Hutton


Malbranque Jenas THE HUDD Lennon


Berby Keane

Thats wat it probably will be i recon. Maybe with the acception of Hutton- as if he doesnt sign today he cant be registered in time for the game i dont think? Plus he wont have a had time to adjust to our play and tactics etc so Ramos might leave him out

WHO KNOWS EH BOYS?

CMON YIDS!

[olly27]

Ok there missing:

Yakuba,Yobbo and Pienar...African Nations

Hibbert and Cahil both suspended.

Osman is a doubt and they are assessing him tomorrow but they have Baines back in the squad.

I reckon we have great chance given these problems for Moyes.

[Baleinho]

ahh yes the glorious African Cup of Nations...

thank **** Yakubu isnt around... he has super human strength.

that Pinaar looks set to be a good player an all, they got him on loan from Dortmund.

Im abit at ease now, i think we can do a 2-1 or even a 2-0

[Spur]

Ok there missing:

Yakuba,Yobbo and Pienar...African Nations

Hibbert and Cahil both suspended.

Osman is a doubt and they are assessing him tomorrow but they have Baines back in the squad.

I reckon we have great chance given these problems for Moyes.

Oh that's changed alot actually.

Cahill missing is a big blow.

Their recent form has been alright, only losing to Chelsea twice and a shock loss to Oldham as well.

Saw them against Wigan, I mean to put it bluntly they are games we need to win, and can win, but will we win them all? I'm going for score draw.

[denis-cro]

News about King ?? He´s not included in Spurs team for tommorow game vs Everton, but also not been mentioned as injured or suspended ??? :(

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1558/kingii4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Gino Ginelli]

He'll be getting rested for the weekend.

[Spur]

King wasn't mentioned at missing out on the OS and you shouldn't read anything into him missing from the BBC site just yet.

But I agree with Gino.

[neilmcnab]

a game we cant afford to lose, a draw will be good for us,
WE CAN WIN DEFINETLY, BUT I WONT TAKE NOTHIN FROM EVERTON, AT THEIR PLACE,
down to creating and taking those chances, and keeping arteta quiet, think we can turn their defence, and get behind them, we could score a few,
BUT MAIN THING NOT TO LOSE, AND KEEP GRINDING DOWN THE GAP TO THE TEAMS ABOVE US

[peterc]

We need votes for the game to be screened on www.liveonlinefooty.com, please vote so that we will be able to watch on our pc's/laptops.

[wayne wonder]

We need votes for the game to be screened on www.liveonlinefooty.com, please vote so that we will be able to watch on our pc's/laptops.

just have mate :cool:

[peterc]

just have mate :cool:

Cheers mate.;)

[Keanoldinho]

Ok there missing:

Yakuba,Yobbo and Pienar...African Nations

Hibbert and Cahil both suspended.

Osman is a doubt and they are assessing him tomorrow but they have Baines back in the squad.

I reckon we have great chance given these problems for Moyes.


If they've got all them problems we better beat them. 3-1 Spurs

[\jackdaw]

We usually do well at Everton and the team seems a lot more confident as well at the moment.

Whether Woody plays or not could be a deciding factor as I am sure he will help shore up the defence a lot but is he 100% fit?

Anyway going for a 2-1 to the mighty Spurs

[choda]

We win, better side.

Megastars up top, meep beep will rape another full back. Especially one that's a cb come left back.

[SCIFIN17YID]

Guys what is the game showing on I want to watch it thanks let me know a.s.a.p.

[berbzy 'G']

Guys what is the game showing on I want to watch it thanks let me know a.s.a.p.

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed30.1/Everton_Tottenham.html

[jrio]

Debut for Woody, start for Gunter on the left and Rocha on bench. No sign of Tainio, presumably rotation/fitness issues.

Tottenham: Cerny, Chimbonda, Huddlestone, Woodgate, Gunter, Lennon, Jenas, O'Hara, Malbranque, Berbatov, Keane

Subs: Robinson, Lee, Boateng, Defoe, Rocha

[irishspur]

heres the team

cerny subs robbo
chimbo lee
WOODGATE rocha
hudds boateng(so much for him talking to villa!)
gunter defoe
lennon
jj
o'hara
steed
berbs
keano COYS!!!

[choda]

heres the team

cerny subs robbo
chimbo lee
WOODGATE rocha
hudds boateng(so much for him talking to villa!)
gunter defoe
lennon
jj
o'hara
steed
berbs
keano COYS!!!

Sorry mate, I haven't a clue what team that is.

[SCIFIN17YID]

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed30.1/Everton_Tottenham.html

Not working anyone got any working links ?

[irishspur]

Sorry mate, I haven't a clue what team that is.

oops that went a bit wrong, subs are on the right.

[SCIFIN17YID]

Anyone got working links for the stream ?

[-R7-]

Well , I know this should be a win for us but knowing spurs i think it will be a draw 2-2 for me!

[Spur]

Anyone got working links for the stream ?

:(

No.

[SCIFIN17YID]

Heres another link, its not working for me but it is another link, I caint be ****ed with silly streams that do not work, I am going back on xbox live :)

tvants://www.p2psports.cn/tvants/?k=ad0e8565cb543671fa1d70e7eb82cc97

[berbzy 'G']

Heres another link, its not working for me but it is another link, I caint be ****ed with silly streams that do not work, I am going back on xbox live :)

tvants://www.p2psports.cn/tvants/?k=ad0e8565cb543671fa1d70e7eb82cc97


Sounds a it game anyway mate :(

[nuttyhotspurs]

anyone managed to get the game on footyonline???? **** me ronaldo is on fire tonite. awesome freekick

[-R7-]

anyone managed to get the game on footyonline???? **** me ronaldo is on fire tonite. awesome freekick

Isn't he always!!!:(

[Spur]

I've given up. I can't even find a ****ing radio link for ****s sake what a pisstake.

[SurreySpur]

Here's a link to bbcLondon 94.9, just click 'listen to tottenham commentary'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2005/10/12/live_commentaries_feature.shtml

[mjbmedia]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/live/spurs.ram

its not great but its sound

[nuttyhotspurs]

or play this link in realplayer. works for every game

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/live/spurs.ram

[nuttyhotspurs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/live/spurs.ram

its not great but its sound

great minds think alike

[berbzy 'G']

or play this link in realplayer. works for every game

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/live/spurs.ram

CHEERS GEEZER :D

[denis-cro]

It looks like we´re playing very poor....:o

[-R7-]

or play this link in realplayer. works for every game

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/live/spurs.ram

ive downloaded everything and it has a black screen sayin preparing channel live-footy org plz help

[berbzy 'G']

ive downloaded everything and it has a black screen sayin preparing channel live-footy org plz help

Its ****ed for all of us :(

[peterc]

Been listening to London Radio and Sky Sports one, apparently we are not playing that well, Everton had a penalty call turned down, Huddlestone tripping up Andy Johnson. Woodgate seems to be paying quite well. Half time, don't think we have had a decent shot at goal yet.

[choda]

Some debutant with an obscure name just scored on the radio and I was shitting it as I thought it might be an Evertonian. He plays for Barnet, phew.

[peterc]

Arteta seems to be giving Gunter a hard time, no action from the forwards.:(

[jrio]

Seems Berb, Lennon and Keane are not in the game at all.

[peterc]

Near miss, Robbie Keano, first decent shot of the game.

[neilmcnab]

hmmm, wonder if jenas is bossing that midfield as usual,??

how many are still confident in his talents?

highlights on football first at 10.15 skysports1/2

[peterc]

Seems Berb, Lennon and Keane are not in the game at all.

You spoke too soon there mate, say something else about our forwards, u never know we might score.:p

[peterc]

hmmm, wonder if jenas is bossing that midfield as usual,??

how many are still confident in his talents?

highlights on football first at 10.15 skysports1/2

FFS, let him be and keep your negative comments for after the game. It's not just Jenas who plays for Spurs.

[berbzy 'G']

We're getting forward alot better...

[Spur]

"O'Hara only one who's having a go for Spurs"

[nuttyhotspurs]

FFS, let him be and keep your negative comments for after the game. It's not just Jenas who plays for Spurs.

i agree, all i can say is BORING!

[peterc]

i agree, all i can say is BORING!

I mean, the guy has shown some improvement this season and some just want to continue having a dig at him, it's easier to criticise soemone, sitting on one's armchair than actually playing.:rolleyes:

[Spur]

Can I just get some confirmation - no subs been made yet have there...?

[jrio]

One corner in the game after 55 minutes tells its own story. Since we have 2 players in the defence making their full debuts it's no surprise that Ramos would probably be very happy with a point.

[peterc]

Can I just get some confirmation - no subs been made yet have there...?

Don't think so, Johnson just had a good shot saved by Cerny.

[Spur]

Gunter off for Boateng.

Ramos is so unpredictable.

[jrio]

Can I just get some confirmation - no subs been made yet have there...?
No. Amazingly Van Der Meyde is on the bench for Everton. :eek:

EDIT: Tottenham substitution: Chris Gunter replaced by Kevin-Prince Boateng (tactical).

[peterc]

Gunter off for Boateng.

Ramos is so unpredictable.

Must have missed that one, commentator said that Arteta was giving Gunter a hard time.

[jrio]

Came up on the BBC site a minute after my post. Maybe MON's watching....

[peterc]

A bit of a scramble in our box, now cleared. :p

[Spur]

No. Amazingly Van Der Meyde is on the bench for Everton. :eek:

EDIT: Tottenham substitution: Chris Gunter replaced by Kevin-Prince Boateng (tactical).

When was his last appearance?

Hasn't played this season.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Can I just get some confirmation - no subs been made yet have there...?

our bench is..... meh

BALE GET FITTTTTTTTTTT

[berbzy 'G']

Woodgate's playing very well :)

[Spur]

Woodgate's playing very well :)

Hopefully he scores.

And then someone else scores to make it two.

I'd be very happy.

[jrio]

When was his last appearance?

Hasn't played this season.
Must be well over a year ago. Rumour was that there is a drink problem involved. I thought they'd cancelled his contract.

[peterc]

Woodgate's playing very well :)

No mistakes so far.

[jrio]

F****. Last second penalty to West Ham and they win 1 nil against Liverpool.

[peterc]

Spammers just scored 1-0, penalty Noble and they win.:mad:

[choda]

Liverpool have a really poor team for the money they spent.

[peterc]

F****. Last second penalty to West Ham and they win 1 nil against Liverpool.

I'll sue u for copyrights.:p

[nuttyhotspurs]

Liverpool have a really poor team for the money they spent.

an overrated manager aswell

[peterc]

Liverpool have a really poor team for the money they spent.

Results seem to be confirming it.

[choda]

If we win this how far behind Liverpool would we be? Just a thought.

[peterc]

Commentator says Woodgate and Lescott best players on the pitch.

[jrio]

10 points with a game more played, Liverpool down to 7th.

Wham are 4 points behind them.

[peterc]

If we win this how far behind Liverpool would we be? Just a thought.

10 points behind.

[nuttyhotspurs]

spurs finishing strong. commentator is comical tonite

[Chewy]

Referee is a joke!!

[peterc]

Shit Berba was close, game over. Better one point then nothing.

[Spur]

Commentator going nuts.

Can't help but laugh.

[berbzy 'G']

Both sides were pretty much even... By the sound of it though, Some of those Everton players are dirty ****ers who seem to have got away with everything... Unfair :mad:

[nuttyhotspurs]

Shit Berba was close, game over. Better one point then nothing.


if we had played this everton team at home i would have been disappointed but a point away from home, with a untried back 4 aint bad at all

YIDSSSSSSSSSSS

[choda]

'THE REFEREES A MUPPET'

Lol.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Commentator going nuts.

Can't help but laugh.

pissed maself wen he called the ref a muppet

[denis-cro]

Better one point then nothing.

I´m pleased with a draw at Goodison.

[TURKISH]

Im very happy tough place to come and get a result. Woodgate fom what im told motm for us! Get in there!

[peterc]

I´m pleased with a draw at Goodison.


Shame the bloody spammers got their lucky penalty at the last second of the game.

[choda]

It's an acceptable result and it sounded like if anyone was going to win it would have been us.

The commentator was also coming in his pants over Lennon's speed merchantry. He must love it when meeb meep step on the gas, I do too to be honest.

Which reminds me, did you fellas see how Evra, a very quick player himself, could not cope at all with Lennon's pace? I thought that was incredible.

[jrio]

7 Liverpool 23 20 40
8 Blackburn 24 1 38
9 Portsmouth 24 9 37
10 West Ham 23 8 36
11 Tottenham 24 4 28

Look at that gap to Wham in 10th. I can see Pompey and Rovers faltering enough for us to gain ground, but that's probably it. At best 9th.

[denis-cro]

... I can see Pompey and Rovers faltering enough for us to gain ground, but that's probably it. At best 9th.

Bringing CC trophy to WHL, a semi-final or better in UEFA cup, and above 10th place in EPL would be a brilliant ending of the season which started sooooooo embarrassingly...

[peterc]

7 Liverpool 23 20 40
8 Blackburn 24 1 38
9 Portsmouth 24 9 37
10 West Ham 23 8 36
11 Tottenham 24 4 28

Look at that gap to Wham in 10th. I can see Pompey and Rovers faltering enough for us to gain ground, but that's probably it. At best 9th.

Too early to call, with fourteen games left, we still might squeeze to maybe sixth.

[choda]

7 Liverpool 23 20 40
8 Blackburn 24 1 38
9 Portsmouth 24 9 37
10 West Ham 23 8 36
11 Tottenham 24 4 28

Look at that gap to Wham in 10th. I can see Pompey and Rovers faltering enough for us to gain ground, but that's probably it. At best 9th.

I wouldn't go that far. It will be hard but we can still make Uefa, especially if the FA cup final has two teams already qualifying. It would lift a great weight if we can win the game on Feb 24 though. Huge game for this club, biggest for decades.

[wayne wonder]

i'll take a clean sheet tonight happy with that!! now the next thing s if woody makes the next game


The future looks so bright :cool:

[Spur]

'THE REFEREES A MUPPET'

Lol.

The best one was at the end when he called him a buffoon.

[neilmcnab]

its a site that encourages opinion mate,wats up wid that, im not dogging him,just questioning his ability against world class oponents like carsley, and fill neville, and also leyton baines in midfield,
infact everton are missing 6 or 7 1st teamer,

stop crying and look at the facts,

[jrio]

In comparison to last season when we shot up to 5th - we have 4 points less than at the same stage last season, when we then lost to ManU(who we play on Saturday) and Sheff Utd. We then won 5 in a row. This season the gap to 6th is 13 points. 5 straight wins won't make that up, unless 4 of the teams above us agree to forgoe any points for 5 games. And we're likely to be without King this time.

[peterc]

its a site that encourages opinion mate,wats up wid that, im not dogging him,just questioning his ability against world class oponents like carsley, and fill neville, and also leyton baines in midfield,
infact everton are missing 6 or 7 1st teamer,

stop crying and look at the facts,

Its a site for opinions but not for un-necessary negative comments. If you call Carsley, Neville and Baines world class players, what can I say except, I don't think so. As regards to players missing, we had four of our regular players missing too, but that is no excuse. There is no need for anyone to cry except maybe yourself for not making much sense.

[peterc]

In comparison to last season when we shot up to 5th - we have 4 points less than at the same stage last season, when we then lost to ManU(who we play on Saturday) and Sheff Utd. We then won 5 in a row. This season the gap to 6th is 13 points. 5 straight wins won't make that up, unless 4 of the teams above us agree to forgoe any points for 5 games. And we're likely to be without King this time.

It is achievable, never say die.

[Keanoldinho]

Just watched the game there was a 2 hour delay over here so I avoided the internet so I didn't know the score and it was a truely shite game imvho. The one bright spot was Woodgate who was ****n quality who ever said he was rubbish need to get their heads checked. Worst game Malbranque ever had in a Spurs shirt his passing was crap especially in the final third piss poor. Berby was shit kept falling on his ****ing hole the tosser, Keano was marked out the game by Lescott, Chimbo is a lazy **** too bring in Hutton asap. Lennon was our only player who looked remotely dangerous in their half but he never had any support or movement or ****ing anything. Awful game to watch I just wasted 90 minutes of my life watching shite and swearing at the tv ffs.

[olly27]

Just watched football first. I have to say we look tired and two big games in the last week showed. Woodgate had a good debut and we looked solid at the back for a change. Its ironic that we have been scoring goals for fun coupled with brillant attacking football for most of the season and conceding left, right and center...yet tonight we looked good at the back, thanks to Woody I might add, and totally devoid of any invention upfront. The squad will have a full week off after the United game (bar the England game) which will be welcomed.

Scrappy game with very few half chances nevermind clear cut ones. All the same Everton are a strong side and given the events of the last week its a point gained rather than two points dropped.

[singapore spur]

everyone has some shite games during a season , so just look at the positives , clean sheet , woodgate playing well , and a point away from home against the 4th place team ( weakened or not ) , would have taken that before the game

[Keanoldinho]

I get pissed off everytime we don't win regardless of who we're playing or how well we play. We're Tottenham we're supposed to beat everyone 5 nil.:D

[singapore spur]

I get pissed off everytime we don't win regardless of who we're playing or how well we play. We're Tottenham we're supposed to beat everyone 5 nil.:D

true , but someone forgot to tell the other clubs that

[neilmcnab]

hav u watchd the game yet pterc,
am i wrong to say he didnt dominate am i wrong to say it was carsley he was up against,
we played poor but this lad is our most experienced midfielder and is a ENGLAND international, surely you expect to see atleast a pass or two from an international midfielder, compared to carsley,
ITS NOT THAT IM ASKING TO MUCH ITS THAT YOU ACCEPT TOO LITTLE,

WE ONLY MANAGED TO PLAY FOR LAST 10 MINS, and we could have snatchd it,

but mate centre midfield is your teams heart and i do expect to see somthing from that pos.

[Keanoldinho]

hav u watchd the game yet pterc,
am i wrong to say he didnt dominate am i wrong to say it was carsley he was up against,
we played poor but this lad is our most experienced midfielder and is a ENGLAND international, surely you expect to see atleast a pass or two from an international midfielder, compared to carsley,
ITS NOT THAT IM ASKING TO MUCH ITS THAT YOU ACCEPT TOO LITTLE,

WE ONLY MANAGED TO PLAY FOR LAST 10 MINS, and we could have snatchd it,

but mate centre midfield is your teams heart and i do expect to see somthing from that pos.


I watched the whole 90+ minutes and JJ was solid today he got about the pitch made some good tackles and distributed the ball fairly well. The players who I was most disappointed in were Berby who was being marked by Jagielka and did **** all but fall on his arse everytime he got the ball 20-30mil from whoever doesn't seem to bad at the minute and Malbranque who couldn't pass to save his life tonite he was truely awful all game. Keano had a bad game but he was being man marked by Lescott so Berby had to have a big game and he blew it. Lennon was our only attacking outlet worth a **** but he had no support from anyone even chimbo who played like he knew he was on his way out the club. I thought JJ, O'Hara, and Boateng when he came on were all solid and got stuck in but Lennon was our only attacking outlet worth a **** Mal, Keano, and Berby were dire. You seem to have a vendetta against JJ and your continued negative posts are annoying and predictable.

[choda]

In all fairness, why pick on JJ?

I only saw MOTD and it seemed a shit game. Woody looked superb and Cerny continues to do well.

It wasn't up to JJ that we didn't win, was it? It was the team performance as far as I saw. And Cerny was instrumental in getting a clean sheet.

I think we are playing a lot of games at present and I think we dip physically at times because our squad is stretched.

[Keanoldinho]

In all fairness, why pick on JJ?

I only saw MOTD and it seemed a shit game. Woody looked superb and Cerny continues to do well.

It wasn't up to JJ that we didn't win, was it? It was the team performance as far as I saw. And Cerny was instrumental in getting a clean sheet.

I think we are playing a lot of games at present and I think we dip physically at times because our squad is stretched.



If I had to blame someone it would be Berbatov. We kept getting him the ball in good positions and he mostly fell on his hole after holding on to the ball to long or couldn't get away from ****ing Jagielka to get a shot off. He should of won us the game in injury time but he fluffed it.

[choda]

If I had to blame someone it would be Berbatov. We kept getting him the ball in good positions and he mostly fell on his hole after holding on to the ball to long or couldn't get away from ****ing Jagielka to get a shot off. He should of won us the game in injury time but he fluffed it.

Because he knows he won't move and the window is over?

If you ask me this guys character is highly questionable. I think he has been a disgrace for most of this year and has a lot to do to win me around again. I'm not saying he can't do it though.

[choda]

If I had to blame someone it would be Berbatov. We kept getting him the ball in good positions and he mostly fell on his hole after holding on to the ball to long or couldn't get away from ****ing Jagielka to get a shot off. He should of won us the game in injury time but he fluffed it.

Berba got man of the match from the ex-pros in the fantasy league. I'm not complaining because he is in my team. Lol.

But surely it was Woody, Cerny or an Everton defender that deserved that accolade.

[Keanoldinho]

Berba got man of the match from the ex-pros in the fantasy league. I'm not complaining because he is in my team. Lol.

But surely it was Woody, Cerny or an Everton defender that deserved that accolade.

Woodgate and Lescott were the best 2 players on the pitch. Woodgate was probably the better of the 2 because he made some important interceptions and tackles. Lescott was marking Keano pretty much out the game Keano had one chance but hit it straight to the keeper pretty tamely. That's why Berby should of taken the piss with Jagielka marking him who lets face it aint that good a defender.

[mjbmedia]

the fantasy league bonus points are crap, Fabreglas didnt get any bonus yet scored and assisted, Berbs gets three for what exactly??? Still you dont have to have a brain to be a footballer so to be an ex footballer you need even less of one.

[peterc]

hav u watchd the game yet pterc,
am i wrong to say he didnt dominate am i wrong to say it was carsley he was up against,
we played poor but this lad is our most experienced midfielder and is a ENGLAND international, surely you expect to see atleast a pass or two from an international midfielder, compared to carsley,
ITS NOT THAT IM ASKING TO MUCH ITS THAT YOU ACCEPT TOO LITTLE,

WE ONLY MANAGED TO PLAY FOR LAST 10 MINS, and we could have snatchd it,

but mate centre midfield is your teams heart and i do expect to see somthing from that pos.

Yes I have watched the game, and it seems you might have seen the wrong game. JJ did not have one of his best games, however, he was definitely not the worse player on the pitch. He still got stuck in with his tackles. Can't blame him for not getting the whole three points, anyway, one point away to Everton seems to be a good result for us.

[neilmcnab]

so unless he has the worst gema he,s the best?
look any team is governed by the central midfield, how can u say anything about the forwards if they dont get any passes from the midfield, same as wide players they depend on the midfield to supply the balls to work with,
for those who say i pick on jenas, open ur eyes,
he is the catalyst, the hub, CENTRAL MIDFIELD, HASNT ANYBODY PLAYED FOOTBALL,
HE HAS A AMAZING AMOUNT OF LACK LUSTRE GAMES, or is that an exaggeration?
THE WORD CONSISTANCY COMES TO MIND,and jenas is consistantly ordinary, yeah he runs, SO DOES ASSAFA POWELL,
BUT FOOTBALLERS ARE ASKED TO PASS AND CONTROL THE BALL, arnt they,
what makes me laugh is many of u guys see this overrated guy being a top midfield er, PLEASE....

OK NOW IVE PREDICTED HE PLAYS BELOW PAR IN THE LAST 2 GAMES AND AM SURE HE WILL CONTINUE THIS CONSISTANT LACK OF QUALITY ON SAT,

when do u guys predict he will have a good game, a game when he actually plays a thru ball or two, he actually plays a one two, meaning ful one two, and goes forward,

you guys are content with a player running up and down the pitch, making lunging tackles, witch ultimetly gives other team a free kick . many in dangerous positions,

oh and read the papers and web sites for player performances, most gave jenas 4/5 or a generos 6, thats consistant, the mark of atrully great player,international class. ehh,
in my opinon....

[peterc]

so unless he has the worst gema he,s the best?
look any team is governed by the central midfield, how can u say anything about the forwards if they dont get any passes from the midfield, same as wide players they depend on the midfield to supply the balls to work with,
for those who say i pick on jenas, open ur eyes,
he is the catalyst, the hub, CENTRAL MIDFIELD, HASNT ANYBODY PLAYED FOOTBALL,
HE HAS A AMAZING AMOUNT OF LACK LUSTRE GAMES, or is that an exaggeration?

Who says that he is the best anyway, you seem to be going completely off track there.Central midfielder has an important role to play and so do the wingers who play an important part in set pieces, saying that this would apply to all players on the pitch. The team plays as a team and not individually. You seem to hate JJ, that is your problem, but when he performs like he did against Arsenal, how can you state that he is not performing?. He was also voted MOTM for that game and not Fabregas whom you think is the one and only.
THE WORD CONSISTANCY COMES TO MIND,and jenas is consistantly ordinary, yeah he runs, SO DOES ASSAFA POWELL,
BUT FOOTBALLERS ARE ASKED TO PASS AND CONTROL THE BALL, arnt they,
what makes me laugh is many of u guys see this overrated guy being a top midfield er, PLEASE....

OK NOW IVE PREDICTED HE PLAYS BELOW PAR IN THE LAST 2 GAMES AND AM SURE HE WILL CONTINUE THIS CONSISTANT LACK OF QUALITY ON SAT,
Here again you slag him off, before kicking the ball against Manure, you just enjoy slagging him off for no reasion and that is negative opinions trhat we don't really want to read or hear about on a forum.
when do u guys predict he will have a good game, a game when he actually plays a thru ball or two, he actually plays a one two, meaning ful one two, and goes forward,
Gave you an example against the scum.
you guys are content with a player running up and down the pitch, making lunging tackles, witch ultimetly gives other team a free kick . many in dangerous positions,
He also helps out the defence and has avoided us conceding goals, just leave the guy play his football, and I suggest you change your way of stating such negative opinions without giving the right facts.
oh and read the papers and web sites for player performances, most gave jenas 4/5 or a generos 6, thats consistant, the mark of atrully great player,international class. ehh,
in my opinon....

Well, if you read/ listen to the Sun and other media bollocks, what can I say, be gullible and negative.:rolleyes:

[olly27]

Neil Mcnab seriously it was not Jenas's fault! Thats spectacularly unfair to blame him for a team performance which was quite frankly woeful right across the park (bar the back). As I said previously the whole team looked tired. He's had two excellent games in a big week for the club despite missing a few chances at Old Trafford. Get off the guys back.

[olly27]

so unless he has the worst gema he,s the best?
look any team is governed by the central midfield, how can u say anything about the forwards if they dont get any passes from the midfield, same as wide players they depend on the midfield to supply the balls to work with,
for those who say i pick on jenas, open ur eyes,
he is the catalyst, the hub, CENTRAL MIDFIELD, HASNT ANYBODY PLAYED FOOTBALL,
HE HAS A AMAZING AMOUNT OF LACK LUSTRE GAMES, or is that an exaggeration?
THE WORD CONSISTANCY COMES TO MIND,and jenas is consistantly ordinary, yeah he runs, SO DOES ASSAFA POWELL,
BUT FOOTBALLERS ARE ASKED TO PASS AND CONTROL THE BALL, arnt they,
what makes me laugh is many of u guys see this overrated guy being a top midfield er, PLEASE....

OK NOW IVE PREDICTED HE PLAYS BELOW PAR IN THE LAST 2 GAMES AND AM SURE HE WILL CONTINUE THIS CONSISTANT LACK OF QUALITY ON SAT,

when do u guys predict he will have a good game, a game when he actually plays a thru ball or two, he actually plays a one two, meaning ful one two, and goes forward,

you guys are content with a player running up and down the pitch, making lunging tackles, witch ultimetly gives other team a free kick . many in dangerous positions,

oh and read the papers and web sites for player performances, most gave jenas 4/5 or a generos 6, thats consistant, the mark of atrully great player,international class. ehh,
in my opinon....

I seriously wonder what you expect...for him to turn into gerrard over night!...he's had two great games in the last week and whole team was below par last night not just Jenas. He's the most improved player under Ramos and it will take time to see the improvement on a more regular basis...hopefully it happens.

[MiloMinderbinder]

A clean sheet and a point at Goodison, albeit against a depleted Everton side, is not to be sniffed at, many a side will go up there, play better than we did and lose.

However, as I can't see us getting anything out of Man U (someone anyone please boot Ronaldo ****ing hard in the opening 30 seconds) perhaps we ought to have been a bit more ambitous.

[Keanoldinho]

so unless he has the worst gema he,s the best?
look any team is governed by the central midfield, how can u say anything about the forwards if they dont get any passes from the midfield, same as wide players they depend on the midfield to supply the balls to work with,
for those who say i pick on jenas, open ur eyes,he is the catalyst, the hub, CENTRAL MIDFIELD, HASNT ANYBODY PLAYED FOOTBALL,
HE HAS A AMAZING AMOUNT OF LACK LUSTRE GAMES, or is that an exaggeration?
THE WORD CONSISTANCY COMES TO MIND,and jenas is consistantly ordinary, yeah he runs, SO DOES ASSAFA POWELL,
BUT FOOTBALLERS ARE ASKED TO PASS AND CONTROL THE BALL, arnt they,
what makes me laugh is many of u guys see this overrated guy being a top midfield er, PLEASE....

OK NOW IVE PREDICTED HE PLAYS BELOW PAR IN THE LAST 2 GAMES AND AM SURE HE WILL CONTINUE THIS CONSISTANT LACK OF QUALITY ON SAT,

when do u guys predict he will have a good game, a game when he actually plays a thru ball or two, he actually plays a one two, meaning ful one two, and goes forward,

you guys are content with a player running up and down the pitch, making lunging tackles, witch ultimetly gives other team a free kick . many in dangerous positions,

oh and read the papers and web sites for player performances, most gave jenas 4/5 or a generos 6, thats consistant, the mark of atrully great player,international class. ehh,
in my opinon....


The forwards and widemen did get the ball in good positions quite alot yesterday especially Berby who did **** all with the service he got he either held onto the ball to long then fell over or held onto the ball to long then hit a shot that got blocked. Malbranque was crap too everytime he got the ball in the final third he passed it straight to a Everton defender. Keano was marked out the game but still had one good opportunity that he hit tamely straight to the keeper. Lennon played well and caused them some problems but everything he created came to nothing because Berby, Keano, and Malbranque were shite. So how about you open your eyes and learn how to spell you ****ing idiot.

[neilmcnab]

hey look man i dont call ny1 names i just have my own opinon, ok so u mr yankee brainbox keep your insults to urself,ok
i dont have to agree with you, i have a mind of my own and am not a loser like many on here,
you cant fault me cos i dont agree with you, you think jenas is great, i think he is poor, not shit poor.
you think keano is world class,
i certainly dont, he is a good forward, but not world class,

also i am not blameing jenas, i am questioning his ability and consistancy, compared to other so called less capable midfielders,

[berbzy 'G']

hey look man i dont call ny1 names i just have my own opinon, ok so u mr yankee brainbox keep your insults to urself,ok
i dont have to agree with you, i have a mind of my own and am not a loser like many on here,
you cant fault me cos i dont agree with you, you think jenas is great, i think he is poor, not shit poor.
you think keano is world class,
i certainly dont, he is a good forward, but not world class,

also i am not blameing jenas, i am questioning his ability and consistancy, compared to other so called less capable midfielders,


You think your getting called names m8... Just take a look at the shit I'm gettin on the Man Utd vs Spurs thread lolz

[neilmcnab]

read the sun peterc,

cor no wonder they call spurs fans fickle...

ur argument is he runs from box to box wow.

it is a requirement of midfield players to run from box to box, what does he do with the football,

its the round thing that footballers manipulate during the match, trying to put the said object into oponents goal, that thing with the net covering it.

[choda]

the fantasy league bonus points are crap, Fabreglas didnt get any bonus yet scored and assisted, Berbs gets three for what exactly??? Still you dont have to have a brain to be a footballer so to be an ex footballer you need even less of one.

How true. How many good pundits are there? I can name about 4 personally and that is out of about 100 or more of the ones going about.

[neilmcnab]

i hear you bout the name calling and disrespect,

i dont take it from NOBODY.

I DONT INSULT NOBODY SO I DONT EXPECT TO BE INSULTED,

COS I DONT AGREE WITH THEIR OPINION.

MAYBE THEY WERNT LOVED AS A CHILD. NEVER MIND

[Keanoldinho]

hey look man i dont call ny1 names i just have my own opinon, ok so u mr yankee brainbox keep your insults to urself,ok
i dont have to agree with you, i have a mind of my own and am not a loser like many on here, you cant fault me cos i dont agree with you, you think jenas is great, i think he is poor, not shit poor.
you think keano is world class,
i certainly dont, he is a good forward, but not world class,

also i am not blameing jenas, i am questioning his ability and consistancy, compared to other so called less capable midfielders,



**** off you're just a sappy **** who talks aload of shite on a regular basis and if you don't like being insulted go on over to coys and stay away from forums like this one dip shit;)

[choda]

hey look man i dont call ny1 names i just have my own opinon, ok so u mr yankee brainbox keep your insults to urself,ok
i dont have to agree with you, i have a mind of my own and am not a loser like many on here,
you cant fault me cos i dont agree with you, you think jenas is great, i think he is poor, not shit poor.
you think keano is world class,
i certainly dont, he is a good forward, but not world class,

also i am not blameing jenas, i am questioning his ability and consistancy, compared to other so called less capable midfielders,

Yes, but if you are offering an opinion that people think is going way too far and are being a bit hardheaded about it, then more than likely people are going to react to it.

Although I agree that Jenas is not amazing (even after the large and very welcome recent improvement), I think on this occasion it looks like you are scapegoating him for a bad game all round (except for the defences).

If he was world class then no doubt it would have begged the question, 'well why didn't he take it by the scruff', but he isn't mate, is he?

But he is a good player these days and can be very good. Just don't expect him to turn losses into draws or draws into wins, not yet at least. He's not Gerrard and he certainly isn't Fabregas. The singular criticism you have dished out for this game seems very unfair, even if he had a poor game.

A few weeks ago the bee in your bonnet was Robbie Keane. This is a guy with 19 goals and 12 or more assists and it's not even Febuary! And for much of the season he got poor service!

So then you decide you will say Keano not a 'big game player.' Which was rubbish to begin with as he most certainly always was and has proven it again in recent weeks.

He has scored two at Anfield, one at Old Trafford, four in recent memory against Arsenal, set up Jenas twice in the semi, set up the winner against Chelsea last season after putting Boularouz on his arse and this is in a team that has been notorious for struggling against the top four.

This is not to mention his international record and the way he rose to occasion at the world cup after spending most of the season on the bench at Leeds (behind Alan Smith for reasons only known to Dave O'Leary).

Not a big game player, paah!

[olly27]

Yes, but if you are offering an opinion that people think is going way to far and being a bit hardheaded about it, then more than likely people are going to react to it.

Although I agree that Jenas is not amazing (even after the large and very welcome recent improvement), I think on this occasion it looks like you are scapegoating him for a bad game all round (except for the defences).

If he was world class then no doubt it would have begged the question, 'well why didn't he take it by the scruff', but he isn't mate, is he?

But he is a good player these days and can be very good. Just don't expect him to turn him to turn losses into draws or draws into wins, not yet at least. He's not Gerrard and he certainly isn't Fabregas. The singular criticism you have dished out for this game seems very unfair, even if he had a poor game.

A few weeks ago the bee in your bonnet was Robbie Keane. This is a guy with 19 goals and 12 or more assists and it's not even Febuary! And for much of the season he got poor service!

So then you decide you will say Keano not a 'big game player.' Which was rubbish to begin with as he most certainly always was and has proven it again in recent weeks.

He has scored two at Anfield, one at Old Trafford, four in recent memory against Arsenal, set up Jenas twice in the semi, set up the winner against Chelsea last season after putting Boularouz on his arse and this is in a team that has been notorious for struggling against the top four.

This is not to mention his international record and the way he rose to occasion at the world cup after spending most of the season on the bench at Leeds (behind Alan Smith for reasons only known to Dave O'Leary).

Not a big game player, paah!


Good post mate...exactly my sentiments.

[peterc]

read the sun peterc,

Sorry mate I don't read beanos

cor no wonder they call spurs fans fickle...
Don't think I can be called a fickle fan, cos I'm one of the few who has always stuck to my opinions.
ur argument is he runs from box to box wow.
What do u expect him to do except cover the whole pitch, defend when necessary, the guy has no wings, would be a bit difficult for him to glide all over the place.

it is a requirement of midfield players to run from box to box, what does he do with the football,

its the round thing that footballers manipulate during the match, trying to put the said object into oponents goal, that thing with the net covering it.

Well at least Fabio Capello thinks differently to you, he has been called up for the next England game. Suppose you are going to say that Capello does not know what he is doing.

[Gino Ginelli]

**** off you're just a sappy **** who talks aload of shite on a regular basis and if you don't like being insulted go on over to coys and stay away from forums like this one dip shit;)

I don't know why, but his just made me laugh my bollocks off :D

Talk about offering your considered opinion. Don't hold back next time, please ;)

[RuFuS]

Just take a look at the shit I'm gettin on the Man Utd vs Spurs thread.


All of it warrented :eek: