Match Thread: Ars*nal vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[irishspur]

a draw would do nicely then finish the job at WHL. im goin 1-1

[Ginola's Son]

2-1 loss is best for us.

Let them think they don't have to bother with the 2nd leg...and we have an away goal....

Do it exactly how we did it in 2002...if we win this leg...we'll surely come a cropper in the 2nd leg.

Losing this match COULD be for the greater good.

[N17-YID]

C'mon you Spurs ... if we play like we did last time possesion wise but with a bit more of a cutting edge, we will win. Im goin for 2-1 spurs =]

COYS !!!

[Ginola's Son]

Even though only one team has ever won there? Get real. We won't win the match.

[spurs61]

2-1 loss is best for us.

Losing this match COULD be for the greater good.

Yeah I know, my wedding is the day of the final!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :( :o

[TURKISH]

Yeah I know, my wedding is the day of the final!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :( :o

Oh no the ultimate question cup final or wedding day? At least if we win you will have a wedding to remember!:confused:

[RuFuS]

Even though only one team has ever won there? Get real. We won't win the match.




DEFEATIST :eek:

[wayne wonder]

Yeah I know, my wedding is the day of the final!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :( :o

Oh mate imagine if we get to the final what you gonna do??

[gazzaG8]

1-1 I'd be happy with that

[peterc]

I predict 1-2 to the mighty Spurs.

[Indianspur]

I can see the gooners playing some more of the experienced players on the sly as its us they are playing. im sure it wont be the same team as they beat blackburn with in extra time,.
anyhows id take a draw for now at the very least and still be smiling.

[Keanoldinho]

bad feeling about this game hope I'm wrong

[berbzy 'G']

3 - 1 Spurs... You see if it's not ;)

[Ginola's Son]

I will definitely see that its not

[singapore spur]

dont want to sound defeatist but with the defence still shakey draw best we can hope for

[Ginola's Son]

Yeah. Them kids will be chomping at the bit when they see Kaboul and Robbo stroll out.

[mjbmedia]

Yeah. Them kids will be chomping at the bit when they see Kaboul and Robbo stroll out.
noooooo theyre not their type :p

I reckon there will be two draws in both legs, so away goals will count in the end.

[TURKISH]

I hope we score and i think the best we can hope for is a score draw.

If we win than in the next match all there big guns will be out!:confused:

[neilmcnab]

i think a lot of guys aint looking at the facts, cos weve been so poor defensively,

we do create many chances, its for us to put them in the goal. on sat against reading we missed 4 sitters,

that is equal to 4 goals, if jj and keano sharpen up and concentrate fully, and berba,

[Ginola's Son]

Ok, so you concede we'll concede....we'll need to score 4 away goals to stand a chance

[wayne wonder]

we'll probably lose because they're the luckiest team in the world!! we'll boss the game as usual and then find some way to miss a hatful of chances

But we'll take the 2nd leg and go through

[Ginola's Son]

I'm having deja vu

Are you cutting and pasting your posts from a year ago?

[wayne wonder]

I'm having deja vu

Are you cutting and pasting your posts from a year ago?

pretty much but its all true we're a team full of bottlers simple as :-( makes me ill sometimes still love them though

[Ginola's Son]

What have we done to deserve that 'sinking feeling' all over again just a year later...

With the 2nd leg at Spurs...I'm allowing a slight opening for a win...ever so slight mind you

[wayne wonder]

What have we done to deserve that 'sinking feeling' all over again just a year later...

With the 2nd leg at Spurs...I'm allowing a slight opening for a win...ever so slight mind you

Well if you expect the worst (and we usually do get the worst) anything else is a bonus!!

I actually think we'll go through in the end but it'll be the usual rollercoaster ride and until we sort out set pieces we're stuffed!! i think we'll get a draw at the hemeroides stadium

[Spur]

Yeah. Them kids will be chomping at the bit when they see Kaboul and Robbo stroll out.

They are not kids.

And what happened to if you're good enough you're old enough.

[Ginola's Son]

Ok...they won't all be kids.

But there will be some out there.

[TURKISH]

They are not kids.

And what happened to if you're good enough you're old enough.

There so called kids are there ****ing first team squad members! Unless there playing 16 years olds than in my book they are not kids!

Even last year they wasn't kids.

[Spur]

There so called kids are there ****ing first team squad members! Unless there playing 16 years olds than in my book they are not kids!

Even last year they wasn't kids.

It's media bullshit.

Don't believe the hype.

[wayne wonder]

everyone bar denilson and toure are internationals and definately not kids

[neilmcnab]

thay are very young some anyway, we also have a young side,

the difference is most of arse players have a lot more box,s ticked,

box,s that previosly our players werent even required to have in their lockers,

lol,NOW i think these necesities will be required on potential players cv,s

proof...hardly any of our supporters are ever confident on big games,verses mid-table games, even lower league teams,because we all know there are too many players being carried, or just waiting to make a mistake,

dont get me wrong every team has off days, but our players take it in turn...witch means to me, its down to their methods , methods and habits developed in training sessions, and not rectified, so the habits and lack of technical ability is tolerated and spreads..

WE CAN BEAT ARSE, EVEN WITH MISTAKES, WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR CHANCES AND DEFEND WELL AND KEEP, THE BALL WITH PERPOSE

[gazzaG8]

Up until this morning i thought we'd play Defoe but now it's obviously going to be Berba & Keane.
Has Zokora Gone to the African Cup of nations yet?

[Spur]

Up until this morning i thought we'd play Defoe but now it's obviously going to be Berba & Keane.
Has Zokora Gone to the African Cup of nations yet?

Yes he has.

[RuFuS]

I dont care who they put on the pitch. They are only human (debateable i know). They are not not Superhuman nor invincible and we're goning to wipe that smug look off their slimy faces.

They'll retort that it's only a mickey mouse cup.... blah blah bullshit and some on here will be joining in with them.


YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ! ;)

[wayne wonder]

I dont care who they put on the pitch. They are only human (debateable i know). They are not not Superhuman nor invincible and we're goning to wipe that smug look off their slimy faces.

They'll retort that it's only a mickey mouse cup.... blah blah bullshit and some on here will be joining in with them.


YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ! ;)

ooooooooooohhh who is it?

[berbzy 'G']

ooooooooooohhh who is it?

........... lol :D

[RuFuS]

ooooooooooohhh who is it?

Quitters, who spread doubt before a ball kicked. Re read back thru a few threads and the same names come to the fore before every 'Big' game.
It's all doom and gloom and the only satisfaction they get is from telling you " i told you so ".

As i recall most thought we were unlucky not to get a point at least at scumsville. Robbie hit the bar & missed a pen before they got their winner and that was 3 weeks ago. Yeh it's gonna be tough but i don't want to be given a trophy. We've got to earn it. We've got to believe.

[Ginola's Son]

They'll retort that it's only a mickey mouse cup.... blah blah bullshit and some on here will be joining in with them.


YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !

Probably me.

It's all the 'beat your chest' bollocks that comes along. When KO comes along I'll be behind the boys 100%, but until then, I'll spout as much perceived negativity as I like. We've seen our team choke so much in the big games, that its hard to imagine anything else. Not being positive doesn't take away our credentials as a fan, its just years of hurt and toil showing itself. If we get through to the final I will cry tears of joy.

[jrio]

Looks like we're playing against:

Fabianski, J Hoyte, Senderos, Djourou, Traore, Diaby, Denilson, Diarra, Walcott, Eduardo, Bendtner. Note none of them are first choice when all their players are fit.
EDIT: Gilberto in for Diarra.

I imagine our only change is Boateng for Zokora, unless Rocha comes in for King.

[Defoe8]

Keane just misses too many chances in a game, it'll take him 7/8 shots just to score 1 goal in a match.

We don't have a prolific goalscorer apart from Berba, no steel at all in the midfield (we've also got 2 carry the useless Jenas), Dawson is in awful form and Robbo needs to be playing in a lower division.

All in all we're ****ed, knowing our luck we'll play very well but conceed 2 goals in the last 5 mins.

[Gino Ginelli]

I'll challenge that, by pointing out that Keane is much more prolific in the league than Berba, both this and last season. Also (I know I'm being pedantic) but if Robbie needs that many then some games he must get 14 shots in on goal, which the post match stats would never back up.

But in principle, I agree that all our players, especially the strikers, have a lack of clinicality in front of goal. And you'd expect a higher ratio from your top strikers.

[singapore spur]

I'll challenge that, by pointing out that Keane is much more prolific in the league than Berba, both this and last season. Also (I know I'm being pedantic) but if Robbie needs that many then some games he must get 14 shots in on goal, which the post match stats would never back up.

But in principle, I agree that all our players, especially the strikers, have a lack of clinicality in front of goal. And you'd expect a higher ratio from your top strikers.


i dont know about that either , would be interesting to see a comparison with some of the other top strikers around

[neilmcnab]

diarra aint playing for them, he be left out cos he wana move clubs,

on keano....i dont think he got the 2 misses against the arse out of his head,think he took it real hard, cos he should of won us the game and psychologically trip the arse up

instead it psychologically tripped keano up as he missed a sitter in the next game and subsequently handed over penalty taking to berba.

he,ll see this as a chance to put things rite i hope, and if he flops again, i think it will effect his game badly.

[Ginola's Son]

God almighty!! This team is even more inexperianced than last years!!

[TURKISH]

Im sure we can give them problems tonight but my only worry is players can't be bothered because they think they will be sold.

[Ginola's Son]

Surely we can put a few past this keeper?

[wayne wonder]

i'm going for a spurs 2-1 victory :D

[Milney yid]

Much as I would love to go into this match feeling confident, I never can against Arsenal, because there have been so many times when I've felt optimistic about beating them and then been let down. If we could only sort out our defence, I reckon it would be a victory in the bag.

[RuFuS]

I'll spout as much perceived negativity as I like. Not being positive doesn't take away our credentials as a fan.

Being over-positive is as bad as being over-negative. I tend to go the the sarcasm route. :rolleyes: It covers most things. ;)

God almighty!! This team is even more inexperianced than last years!!
Our or theirs ? :rolleyes:

Surely we can put a few past this keeper?

Bet they're thinking exactly the same thing :rolleyes:

[Ginola's Son]

I'm quite capable of playing the sarcasm game.

Their team is very inexperianced...but yeah...Robbo is easy pickings.

[\jackdaw]

The arse team is far from inexperienced. Everyone in the team has played either in the Premier League, Champions League or some sort of International level.

[jrio]

In the Prem, "some sort of international level" covers about every player in the squads of the top 4. It's a second-string side and beating it will confer little credit on us, but losing further emphasises the massive gulf between the 2 clubs.

[N17-YID]

3-1 win, berbs 2 keano 1. Keano scores first, scum eaqualizes, berbs scores twice after half time =]

COYS !!!:D

[wayne wonder]

Im well up for the game tonight boys got a good feeling we can get a good result and take them back to the lane and finish them off once and for all!!

Robinson to have a blinder :eek: :eek: shocked yes so am i

[shakey18]

Im well up for the game tonight boys got a good feeling we can get a good result and take them back to the lane and finish them off once and for all!!

Robinson to have a blinder :eek: :eek: shocked yes so am i

No he wont-he's on the bench!

Cerny, Chimb, Lee Daws King
Steed Lennon JJ O hara
Keane Berby


Subs

Robbo, Stalts, Boetang, Defoe Taarabt

[jrio]

No he wont-he's on the bench!

Cerny, Chimb, Lee Daws King
Steed Lennon JJ O hara
Keane Berby


Subs

Robbo, Stalts, Boetang, Defoe Taarabt

You're kidding!

[wayne wonder]

No he wont-he's on the bench!

Cerny, Chimb, Lee Daws King
Steed Lennon JJ O hara
Keane Berby


Subs

Robbo, Stalts, Boetang, Defoe Taarabt

like i said he'll play a blinder he wont concede :p

[jrio]

Paul Robinson dropped for Carling Cup semi-final - Times online.

Oh no, you're not! Can hardly say he doesn't deserve it. He's leaving at the end of the season, along with Gardner et al.

[jrio]

like i said he'll play a blinder he wont concede :p
I wish I could be sure of that. :eek: It's still a year too late. :mad:

Good to see O'Hara start.

[wayne wonder]

yep he's deffo not playing what a shocker i bet he's majoly pissed

[jrio]

Hardly a fraction of the pissed we are after a horrendous catalogue of errors, which he's seemingly got away with by cosying up to Jol. Isn't this the first time he's been on the bench for a competitive game when's he's been fit and expected to start? Ah no, Blackburn at home when Cerny misjudged a shot across him.

[Ginola's Son]

Cerny is hardly Dino Zoff! I ould have actually preferred Robbo's experiance tonight....ah well. We've never really seen Cerny have a run of games.

I will give Tottenham all my faith tonight...as always. Just play with pride and commitment...that's all I ask.

[jrio]

Zoff's getting on a bit and not started for a while. :D

He's so slow he makes Wonder look like the Flash! :p

[denis-cro]

I will give Tottenham all my faith tonight...as always. Just play with pride and commitment...that's all I ask.

Ditto




COYS

[Spur]

O'Hara ran the league game against these lot, so hopefully he can do it again.

Good to see him start indeed!

I don't know what to expect going into this game...I think I have no expectation. That is probably a good thing.

[berbzy 'G']

Did anybody just listen to what Redknap was saying about us and berbatov derserving to play for top clubs, and is wasting his career at Spurs...

I thought this **** played for us at one stage :mad: :mad:

[jrio]

TVU 64844 - very good feed.

[jrio]

Merson and Redknapp(he barely played for us) droning on about Walcott. No doubt if he was our player they'd be saying how he could play for a top 4 side!

[Spur]

Merson and Redknapp(he barely played for us) droning on about Walcott. No doubt if he was our player they'd be saying how he could play for a top 4 side!

Droning is the right word definately.

The kid is 18, they say, can't expect anything from him. So there are no other 18 year olds in the Premiership or scoring Maradona esque goals for Barcelona? Theo cost 15mil for God's sake, someone has made a terrible **** up so far.

[jrio]

FFS. Big miss from Mal.

[Keanoldinho]

how the **** did Malbranque miss that sitter ffs

[\jackdaw]

Now the **** did Steed miss that... should of been 1-0 ... then the header .. dam

[shakey18]

****in Get In Jj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thfc4Life]

O'Hara is just giving the ball away non stop, now I can see why he never got given a chance before :(

Get in Jenas :D

[\jackdaw]

Get in there JJ ... great ball from Berby to Keano ....

[Keanoldinho]

Jenas Is ****ing Quality U ******s!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MarlowSpurs]

****in get in there you beauty

[matthius23]

:D :D he's done bugger all all game... i dont care now :D

[Thfc4Life]

We need to be keeping possession better in midfield, I would like to see Boateng come on at half time in place of O'Hara... this will also help us in defensive set piece situations.

[jrio]

Thought he was in danger of being off. There were signs it should have been coming. We've been here many times before. Need to make sure no silly free-kicks conceded.

[shakey18]

Jenas Is ****ing Quality U ******s!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HA! HA! Brilliant!

[jrio]

Look at Arsene's face! Hope it lasts.

[shakey18]

Its been a good second part of the half for us-Keep it up boys!

[Keanoldinho]

We're Playing Well But It Should Be About 3-0 Already Hopefully These Chances Don't Come Back And Bite Us In The Ass Like They Usually Do Against These ****s

[jrio]

Berb on fire, King imperial and Chimbo seemingly putting in a "please don't sell me" performance. A long way to go, and it is against an Arse second-string, but the signs are very encouraging.

[denis-cro]

Its been a good second part of the half for us-Keep it up boys!

Yes it is, but still dissapointed with missed chanches...:( You can´t afford that vs Arse-anal... COYS !!!!!

[\jackdaw]

Berby and Steed playing well and are the main Spurs players. Did well to hold the arse off for the first 20 mins then work themselves back into the game.

Can see much the same the second half with the arse pushing forward for the first 20 mins.

Just need to keep going as they are and its ours.. no silly defensive mistakes.

Lee looks our weak spot more then anyone .. nothing new there then .. but no one to come on for him.

[Keanoldinho]

Thought he was in danger of being off. There were signs it should have been coming. We've been here many times before. Need to make sure no silly free-kicks conceded.


Like the one were Berby shoulder charged Sendros in the back that was quality stuff but dangerous and the one were Malbranque chopped Walcott down on the right. I thought Dawson got very lucky with his late tackle on Bendtner I've seen red cards given for stuff like that this season.

[RuFuS]

That goal was an equaliser ;)
Now it's going to be like the Alamo in the second half :eek:

Every confidence :confused:

[wayne wonder]

Even the arsecum fans know dawson distributions shite they keep expecting the big hoof upfield!! Cerny has to stop kicking it and mix it up and build up from the back and also O'Hara needs to come off i think the occasions got him a little drunk lol


We gotta go and score more otherwise it's gonna be a long 45mins :(

[jrio]

Like the one were Berby shoulder charged Sendros in the back that was quality stuff but dangerous and the one were Malbranque chopped Walcott down on the right. I thought Dawson got very lucky with his late tackle on Bendtner I've seen red cards given for stuff like that this season.
Those were on my mind. V surprised at no booking for Dawson as Dean currently averages about 5 cards a game.

[Spur]

Either there's a backlash or we run riot.

Which is it to be?

[berbzy 'G']

We've been here before...

Eduardos soming up, bollocs!!!!!!!

[shakey18]

Here We Go Lads!! COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Keanoldinho]

The only real worry for me is Eduardo coming on in the 2nd half he's quality and at some point Wenger will probably bring him on for Van Pervie as he's not looked very match fit out there first half. As long as we can shut that **** down when he comes on we can win this. We need another away goal or 2 and if we keep creating chances like the first half we'll get it.

[shakey18]

Lennon STILL can't cross a ****in bridge.

[jrio]

Sagna and Eduardo on, the latter being a real worry.

[\jackdaw]

With Edoardo and Sagnar on going to be hard in this half.

but

COYS !!!

[MarlowSpurs]

Lets destroy these ****ers

[jrio]

Either there's a backlash or we run riot.

Which is it to be?
Early signs point to the latter being more likely.

[MarlowSpurs]

If we win this, I'm going to have a ****ing field day at work tomorrow as a lot of them are geordies or scum fans. Newcastle are managerless and we beat Wenger's boy scout group.
Trouble is its still a big IF
COYS

[SurreySpur]

Another chance from keano, god i hope these missed chances dont come back to haunt us!

[Keanoldinho]

**** me Keano should of went across goal with that shot

[jrio]

If we win this, I'm going to have a ****ing field day at work tomorrow as a lot of them are geordies or scum fans. Newcastle are managerless and we beat Wenger's boy scout group.
Trouble is its still a big IF
COYS

Wait until the last 10 mins if we're 2 ahead before you think that.

[jrio]

We just look in control. Everything's working. Another goal would cement that.

[\jackdaw]

20 mins to go ..

COYS

[jrio]

Possibly the worst free-kick you'll see this year...

[shakey18]

We need another.....

[Keanoldinho]

that was never a fecking free kick 50-50 ball

[shakey18]

Well played Steed.

[SurreySpur]

This is going to be a long last 15mins lads

[Keanoldinho]

these ****s are starting to up the tempo we need another badly

[shakey18]

Spawny Lucky ****in Scum ****s

[\jackdaw]

Prince for Steed... mm.. would of kept Steed on been one of our best players.

Last 15 mins going to be tough .. the arse havnt had a keed spell in the second half yet and its bound to come.

[SurreySpur]

****ing ****s

[Keanoldinho]

Boateng on for Malbranque so O'Hara will probably go LM

[MarlowSpurs]

****ing ****y bollocks, Wengers cock warmer scored

[denis-cro]

Embarassing... so many chances missed... same old story... ****ing angry

[\jackdaw]

**** me and my big mouth ... would of taken 1-1 at start of match and will be happy still with that.

[SurreySpur]

Jammy ****ing rent boys

[Keanoldinho]

luckiest goal you'll ever see ffs now watch them score another the bastards

[shakey18]

and those ****s only start singing now.C'mon Jermain!!.Shit hair cut though!

[MarlowSpurs]

Defoe you ****ing stupid ****

[MarlowSpurs]

How many chances are we going to miss?

[\jackdaw]

**** sake we cant keep missing these chances

[Keanoldinho]

yea sure Defoe is the best finisher in our team ffs

[SurreySpur]

Absolutley ****ing awful miss

Do us a favour and **** off to villa or somewhere JD!!!

[shakey18]

How many chances are we going to miss?

Same old mate.It's really starting to **** me off.

[MarlowSpurs]

**** me is that Defoes haircut or a scar?

[MarlowSpurs]

King has been ****ing awesome tonight

[Keanoldinho]

****n classic O'Hara broke Walcotts ankles lmao

[shakey18]

One thing i will say is that we look SO much better with Leds in the team.

[MarlowSpurs]

****n classic O'Hara broke Walcotts ankles lmao

And the ref stopped the game thinking it was a head injury

[shakey18]

We were the better team, created chances, Leds was sensational, and their goal was as spawny a piece of action as i've ever seen.We HAVE to put those ****in chances away though.

[\jackdaw]

A game we should of won with the chances we had. All to play for at the Lane.

King was awesome in defence and even Lee in the second half played well. They were lucky to get their goal but tat seems to be the story of the season for us.

We cant go on wasting chances like this week in week out but it will all come good in the end.

I can see us getting to the final but winning it is another thing altogther.

[MarlowSpurs]

One thing i will say is that we look SO much better with Leds in the team.

He's looked strong as **** tonight with some of his challenges.
Overall I'm proud as **** of our boys tonight, we carry playing like this (plus putting our chances away) and we should bitch slap these Wenger cock suckers back to Emirshites when we meet for the second game

[Keanoldinho]

****n bullshit Defoe is a **** and looks like a ****n idiot with that hair cut we couldn't even beat the arsnil 2nd string team well pissed off. Que all the little young boys to come on and defend the sappy **** and his gay hair cut.

[LifeTimeYido]

A good result - we never got beat by the gooners.

Ledders was amazing !!!

The most annoying thing was they should have been put to the sword tonite - they were never really in it, and they knew it - we had plenty of chances to fcuk em over.

We SHOULD destroy them at the lane though - AND ON MY BIRTHDAY AS WELL !!!!



COYS !!!

[jrio]

Hmm, same score as last season in this comp, but their goal had a large element of fortune to say the least. With the chances we had we should have expected to score a couple. King looked imperious but Berb seemed to set himself on cruise control in the second half. Cerny did nothing wrong and looked a lot more reliable than Robbo, who I can't see coming back on Saturday. Let's face it, in the second half Arse had one solid chance and fluked it.

[berbzy 'G']

Thought it was to good to be true

[wayne wonder]

How the hell did we not win??? ffs :mad:

King ooozed clas the mans amazing really is!! I thought the whole team put a shift in and worked hard but we gotta take the chances im confident we'll win the 2nd leg.

Berbs is a lazy ****er he kept giving the ball away bit too much and i thought steed was our best player bar king and lee had walcott in his pocket until that flukey ****ing goal


Roll on chelshit saturday

[jrio]

Que all the little young boys to come on and defend the sappy **** and his gay hair cut.
That is a gay haircut.

[\jackdaw]

Hmm, same score as last season in this comp,


umm.. wasnt last season 2-2 at the lane and 3-1 at the emershites?

[wayne wonder]

scum fans are so shit its unreal :mad:

[MarlowSpurs]

That is a gay haircut.

I thought it was a scar

[wayne wonder]

on another note whats going on with jj's hair????? greasy **** very gay

[Spur]

Hmm, same score as last season in this comp, but their goal had a large element of fortune to say the least. With the chances we had we should have expected to score a couple. King looked imperious but Berb seemed to set himself on cruise control in the second half. Cerny did nothing wrong and looked a lot more reliable than Robbo, who I can't see coming back on Saturday. Let's face it, in the second half Arse had one solid chance and fluked it.

2-2 at home, 3-1 away.

This time it's us going into the second leg in arguably the stronger position.

[shakey18]

I thought it was a scar

I think he tried to get Dannielle Lloyd to copy the haircut in your avatar!.

[denis-cro]

So, we draw at the Imigrants stadium, but I´m ****ing dissapointed. Same story as for Premier League match ... missed so many chances .... unbelivable... I´m ****ing angry... I do not blame players for missing chances, cause It´s immposible so many times ... there must be something else...You can´t miss so many chances...You just can´t ... ****ing Arsenal, I hate them so much, I can´t describe it ... They are the luckiest club on the Planet... As for the Spurs players... I must say that I´m very , very immpresed with Chimbonda´s and King´s performance tonight... Czerny also... and on the other side...I´M BEGGING MR. RAMOS THAT HE DROP LEE FROM OUR STARTING 11... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ... I don´t care who is gonna play as LB, O´Hara, Rocha, Tainio, even Berbatov, I DO NOT CARE ... just exclude that useless Korean from squad...

Pitty that we didn´t won... I think It´s just immposible to beat Arse-anal... I think we´ll not play Finals, cause I don´t know how we are going to score a goal more than them... :( ...

OH...****ing dissapointed......:mad:

[jrio]

umm.. wasnt last season 2-2 at the lane and 3-1 at the emershites?

No, it was 1-1 after 90 mins at the Emershites.

[wayne wonder]

can i say the ref had great game:cool:

[jrio]

2-2 at home, 3-1 away.

This time it's us going into the second leg in arguably the stronger position.
Dear, oh dear, #1 spur, somehow I expected better of you. It seems my sarcasm is utterly wasted. After normal time the score was the same. You're really not worth a ban, are you? ;)

[RuFuS]

Well impressed with everyone.A team performance. Anyone who does not think that Ramos is taking us in the right direction, wants their lumps felt.

Yeh they got lucky with their goal but you do use your luck up in Cup competitions.

[shakey18]

Will they stop talking about Berbatov ****in moving.****in Sky ****s

[\jackdaw]

No, it was 1-1 after 90 mins at the Emershites.

Ahh yes forgot it went into extra time ... senility and all that at my age ...

[RuFuS]

can i say the ref had great game:cool:

He did very well but got conned by waltot holding his head when in fact he'd hurt his ankle. Perhaps that's where his brains are ? :)

[peterc]

Good game, at least we seemed much better in defence, shame about those chances missed, we could have won this one today.

[wayne wonder]

He did very well but got conned by waltot holding his head when in fact he'd hurt his ankle. Perhaps that's where his brains are ? :)

lol he's a jammy little ****

[berbzy 'G']

I noticed when a scum defender passed the ball onto the scum player on the wing where Y.P. Lee, Y.P.Lee didn't have the pace to catch upto the ball and King had to move into Lee's wing cos Lee was to slow...

Anyone else notice?

[jrio]

Well impressed with everyone.A team performance. Anyone who does not think that Ramos is taking us in the right direction want their lumps felt.

[Hmm, I do want my lumps felt(thinks hard)]

Ramos is taking us in completely the wrong direction![that should do it]

[peterc]

I noticed when a scum defender passed the ball onto the scum player on the wing where Y.P. Lee, Y.P.Lee didn't have the pace to catch upto the ball and King had to move into Lee's wing cos Lee was to slow...

Anyone else notice?

Thats why the defence looked much more solid than of recent, King makes all the difference.

[nuttyhotspurs]

we should have cruised that game. cant believe we didnt hammer their reserve side. yea there goal was lucky but that goal shouldnt have made a difference. should have scored 3 or 4 before it. to me because of how much we dominated it feels like a loss. same old story against the "big" four......

[Ginola's Son]

No, it's not the 'same old story'. Tonight we played with commitment. We really wanted it. We played really really well, I didn't think we'd get a win, or even a draw, so a draw exceeds my expectations...man, if we play like that down the lane...we just HAVE to play that way at the lane

Ledley immense

O'hara.....wow, where's this kid been hiding.

[berbzy 'G']

Is it Arsenal getting lucky or us being unlucky?

[peterc]

Is it Arsenal getting lucky or us being unlucky?

I'd say both berbs.

[nuttyhotspurs]

No, it's not the 'same old story'. Tonight we played with commitment. We really wanted it. We played really really well, I didn't think we'd get a win, or even a draw, so a draw exceeds my expectations...man, if we play like that down the lane...we just HAVE to play that way at the lane

Ledley immense

O'hara.....wow, where's this kid been hiding.


i aint saying we didnt play well, we did but whats the point if we don't win??? i for one expected a win tonight against a pretty much 2nd string 11. i aint sayin they aint experienced now they are, but its nowhere near a full strength arsenal. its just so ****in frustrating. it happens every ****in time. "sighs"

we will be playing a 2nd string chelsea on sat. and before ppl jump on my back yes i know it still has class players but its the best chance we've had to beat chelsea for years. if we dont get a win there i will be very dissapointed again

[mjbmedia]

same old ,same old. the fact we only got one away goal will haunt us in extra time at WHL when it finishes 2-2 and scum go thru on away goals

PS i think that rule is utter bollox heres why

We get 1 1/2 hours to score away goals, Arsenal get two hours including extra time (which is required before away goals come into it) to score away goals. Now i know if it was the other way round i might not be moaning but either way thats well wrong and is a ridiculous ruling.

So if after 90 mins at WHL its 0-0 we should have won on away goals after 90 mins at each ground , but o no it will go to extra time,if its 1-1 all is level but Arsenal will then get an extra 30 minutes to score an away goal . by the same token if its 2-2 after 90 then we should be out of it, not have an extra 30 minutes to win it .

[Ginola's Son]

It's very rare that anyone ever wins at the Emirates, we did our best and I am more than satisfied. We looked like a football team again

[nuttyhotspurs]

It's very rare that anyone ever wins at the Emirates, we did our best and I am more than satisfied. We looked like a football team again

its rare because....... its rare that teams come up against their 2nd string. yea toon lost but lets face it, they are shite! and they are above us in the league!!!.........yea now im getting frustrated again.

we had a VERY good chance to hammer these tonight in front of their numpty fans and blew it

[jrio]

PS i think that rule is utter bollox heres why

We get 1 1/2 hours to score away goals, Arsenal get two hours including extra time (which is required before away goals come into it) to score away goals. Now i know if it was the other way round i might not be moaning but either way thats well wrong and is a ridiculous ruling.

So if after 90 mins at WHL its 0-0 we should have won on away goals after 90 mins at each ground , but o no it will go to extra time,if its 1-1 all is level but Arsenal will then get an extra 30 minutes to score an away goal . by the same token if its 2-2 after 90 then we should be out of it, not have an extra 30 minutes to win it .
Being away first is meant to be an advantage. That's what you hope for in Europe where away goals count double in normal time. It should be noted that last season we went into ET winning, yet lost the game 3-1. Your objection makes no sense as it implies you wanted the home tie first. I bet you didn't.

[McSpurs]

No complaints here, we've played em twice away now under Juande and should have won both games. When I think back to the league game at WHL this season it can only mean we're goin in the right direction. COYS

[Spur]

Dear, oh dear, #1 spur, somehow I expected better of you. It seems my sarcasm is utterly wasted. After normal time the score was the same. You're really not worth a ban, are you? ;)

Whoopsie :o

I actually had the convo with my old man before the game though when he asked me who scored our goal last year!

[Spur]

No complaints here, we've played em twice away now under Juande and should have won both games. When I think back to the league game at WHL this season it can only mean we're goin in the right direction. COYS

That is very well said.

[Keanoldinho]

I'm pissed too we shoulda been 3-0 up at half time but missed chance after fecking chance and then Defoe gets gifted the winning goal and fluffs it too well pissed off with our same old shit finishing. I can see a 2-2 draw at WHL and us crashing out like a bunch of fecking pansies.

And why the **** are we spending all this time chasing a fecking RB(Hutton) when we clearly need a quality LB, CB and LW. ffs same old shite same old Spurs.

[Ginola's Son]

its rare that teams come up against their 2nd string

They've been playing their 2nd string for about the last decade. Chelsea full strength struggled to put them away last year.

[jrio]

They've been playing their 2nd string for about the last decade. Chelsea full strength struggled to put them away last year.

Wenger started the trend of putting out second-strings in domestic cup competitions. Amongst others last season, they coasted to a 2 nil away win against a full Everton side.

[nuttyhotspurs]

They've been playing their 2nd string for about the last decade. Chelsea full strength struggled to put them away last year.

are you talking about the final??? lol that team was nothing like the team spurs played tonight. unless you think fabregas et al are 2nd string

u can keep sayin it aint 2nd string , they got loads of experience, they play a lot blah ****in blah ****in blah. the facts are its a ****in 2nd string team and we could not put them away with a full a team at ALMOST full strength (bale missing)

burnley nearly got a ****in result against em on sat for ****s sake.

[nuttyhotspurs]

No complaints here, we've played em twice away now under Juande and should have won both games. When I think back to the league game at WHL this season it can only mean we're goin in the right direction. COYS

we've been going in that direction for 3 season. going ahead against them in games then bottling it or not killing them off, we must be going the scenic route..........i honestly wish i was as easily pleased as you. maybe i should lighten up a but. just sick of disappointment, being the better team AGAIN but them going home with a smug look on their faces

[mjbmedia]

Being away first is meant to be an advantage. That's what you hope for in Europe where away goals count double in normal time. It should be noted that last season we went into ET winning, yet lost the game 3-1. Your objection makes no sense as it implies you wanted the home tie first. I bet you didn't.
no my objection is to the rules, full stop . no matter who's advantage they may be to , its clearly not equal for both teams, if one team has an extra 30 minutes in which to score away goals, which surely it should be!

[nuttyhotspurs]

I'm pissed too we shoulda been 3-0 up at half time but missed chance after fecking chance and then Defoe gets gifted the winning goal and fluffs it too well pissed off with our same old shit finishing. I can see a 2-2 draw at WHL and us crashing out like a bunch of fecking pansies.

glad its not just me pulling my hair out

[Ginola's Son]

u can keep sayin it aint 2nd string , they got loads of experience, they play a lot blah ****in blah ****in blah. the facts are its a ****in 2nd string team

If you're good enough, you're old enough. And I'd like to see you call Gilberto a reserve to his face. He might just pull out his world cup winners medal. Oh...and did I see the best striker at the club starting the game? I beleive I did

[jrio]

are you talking about the final??? lol that team was nothing like the team spurs played tonight. unless you think fabregas et al are 2nd string

u can keep sayin it aint 2nd string , they got loads of experience, they play a lot blah ****in blah ****in blah. the facts are its a ****in 2nd string team and we could not put them away with a full a team at ALMOST full strength (bale missing)

burnley nearly got a ****in result against em on sat for ****s sake.

Manuel Almunia
Justin Hoyte
Kolo Touré (c)
Philippe Senderos
Armand Traoré
Theo Walcott
Cesc Fàbregas
Denílson
Abou Diaby(transferred to Boro)
Júlio Baptista(sent back to Madrid)

You might care to think about that comment again, bearing in mind Almunia was the second choice keeper last season(players in bold were recognised first choice).

Burnley was on Sunday and they lost 2 nil. Not that close.

[nuttyhotspurs]

If you're good enough, you're old enough. And I'd like to see you call Gilberto a reserve to his face. He might just pull out his world cup winners medal. Oh...and did I see the best striker at the club starting the game? I beleive I did

gilberto is now 2nd string for arsenal.world cup medal or not. u got me with van persie tho didn't even notice him playing tonite he was that shit

[nuttyhotspurs]

Manuel Almunia
Justin Hoyte
Kolo Touré (c)
Philippe Senderos
Armand Traoré
Theo Walcott
Cesc Fàbregas
Denílson
Abou Diaby(transferred to Boro)
Júlio Baptista(sent back to Madrid)

You might care to think about that comment again, bearing in mind Almunia was the second choice keeper last season(players in bold were recognised first choice).

Burnley was on Sunday and they lost 2 nil. Not that close.

what exactly are you trying to prove with that?????? that team is stronger than the starting 11 tonite

[nuttyhotspurs]

i dont even know what ppl are arguing about now. we should have won tonight simple as lol

[jrio]

no my objection is to the rules, full stop . no matter who's advantage they may be to , its clearly not equal for both teams, if one team has an extra 30 minutes in which to score away goals, which surely it should be!

Same in Europe, mjb. You finish equal after 90 mins from each of 2 legs and the away team in the 2nd leg has an extra 30 to get an away goal. What the hell are you asking for?

[denis-cro]

Well, after cooling down from first reaction after final whistle has gone, and after rewinding the match in my head, I must say that ( excluding first 15-20 minutes of tonight´s game ) Dawson looked very solid tonight... :) What do you think ?? Is he gonna be very good defender like last season playing alongside King ??

[nuttyhotspurs]

Same in Europe, mjb. You finish equal after 90 mins from each of 2 legs and the away team in the 2nd leg has an extra 30 to get an away goal. What the hell are you asking for?

i think he means that why after 2 score draws should a team that may have scored more away goals in normal time (over the 2 legs) have to play extra time

[jrio]

what exactly are you trying to prove with that?????? that team is stronger than the starting 11 tonite

There's an error in that side - I managed to rub out Alialidere and then show Diaby as sent to Boro(as the former was).

That was last season's second string, minus Toure and Fabregas. So Arsenal have a stronger side and squad than last season? The principle is the same. They played the same standard of side.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Well, after cooling down from first reaction after final whistle has gone, and after rewinding the match in my head, I must say that ( excluding first 15-20 minutes of tonight´s game ) Dawson looked very solid tonight... :) What do you think ?? Is he gonna be very good defender like last season playing alongside King ??


god i hope so, coz hes looked like a league 2 defender for the most part this season. i hope we've seen the last of that

[jrio]

i think he means that why after 2 score draws should a team that may have scored more away goals in normal time (over the 2 legs) have to play extra time
Since we're playing in England, the obvious alternative would be immediate penalties and no ET. Last year's defeat would have been shorter, and a sort of moral victory. Is that what you want, mjb? I think he wants a huge cake only he's allowed to eat. ;)

[berbzy 'G']

Dawson looked comfortable palying along side King...

[nuttyhotspurs]

Since we're playing in England, the obvious alternative would be immediate penalties and no ET. Last year's defeat would have been shorter, and a sort of moral victory. Is that what you want, mjb? I think he wants a huge cake only he's allowed to eat. ;)

i think no ET or penalties just use the away goal rule immediately after the 90. meaning if we get a 0-0 after 90 in the 2nd leg (it aint gonna happen!!) we should go thru

tbh ive never even thought about it until mjb brought it up

[jrio]

Dawson looked very solid tonight... :) What do you think ?? Is he gonna be very good defender like last season playing alongside King ??
From early on, when in doubt he booted it out. None of the defenders looked vulnerable, albeit against a near reserve side, and King, one slip apart, looked majestic. Despite his stellar skills, I can be sanguine about Berb leaving. King leaving would really tear me in two.

[jrio]

i think no ET or penalties just use the away goal rule immediately after the 90. meaning if we get a 0-0 after 90 in the 2nd leg (it aint gonna happen!!) we should go thru

tbh ive never even thought about it until mjb brought it up
You'd still need pens if both sides were equal after both ties on home and away goals.

mjb has that kind of effect. He's livened up more than a few graveyards in his time. :p

[berbzy 'G']

Capello was watching tonight... I wonder what he thought of King? the blokes is officially world class... He makes John Terry look Titus Bramble... :o :o :o :o

[nuttyhotspurs]

Capello was watching tonight... I wonder what he thought of King? the blokes is officially world class... He makes John Terry look Titus Bramble... :o :o :o :o

he shud of had a shot wen he coasted thru at the start! he was immense tonight. he makes kaboul look like gary doherty....no wait he already did

[Ginola's Son]

Just please stay fit

Paul 'the ****' Merson thinks he wont play again till the 2nd leg

[berbzy 'G']

he shud of had a shot wen he coasted thru at the start! he was immense tonight. he makes kaboul look like gary doherty....no wait he already did

Yeah, That would have been brilliant when King got forward... Could you imagine that, The Tottenham captain scoring against North London rivals...

But Defoe missing that penalty against West Ham, and the open goal against the scum will haunt me...

[nuttyhotspurs]

Just please stay fit

Paul 'the ****' Merson thinks he wont play again till the 2nd leg

that wouldnt surprise me, they seem to be wrapping him in cotton wool. cant really blame em

[nuttyhotspurs]

Yeah, That would have been brilliant when King got forward... Could you imagine that, The Tottenham captain scoring against North London rivals...

But Defoe missing that penalty against West Ham, and the open goal against the scum will haunt me...


i have a few more! torres at anfield last min, bouazza at fulham last minute, chopra at sunderland last minute, that goon for birmingham last minute! i aint gona go on!!:)

[Baleinho]

I have sort of mixed emotions.

We played fantastic- granted it was against the so called '2nd string' scum squad.

Im more than happy that we didnt get humilliated... Would you guys take a 1-1 at the emershits with them playing 'kids'? or take a 2-1 defeat against their normal team? Quite frankly.. twice in a month we SHOULD have won against Arsenal- and for that im happy...

Besides if we won 2nite i could see us cocking it all up at WHL.. and THAT would be embarrasing. So now its a level playing field again its back to square one.

I was pleased with steed- even though he cocked a couple of sitters up; mind less said about defoe miss the better!

Also; did u notice how shit their fans were? i was in the pub and i could hear the yids over them scum 90% of the time ;D

COYS

**** THE GOONERS

ps. final score for 2nd leg; 2-1 yids ;)

[Baleinho]

i have a few more! torres at anfield last min, bouazza at fulham last minute, chopra at sunderland last minute, that goon for birmingham last minute! i aint gona go on!!:)

Jenas last season against liverpool and Kuyt scoring 36 seconds later was the worst one imo.. i put a hole in my gfs bedroom wall cause of that. rofl

[nuttyhotspurs]

does the ruuner up in the carling cup get an automatic euro place? obviously if the team that won it were to qualify for europe by other means

[Ginola's Son]

Gawd. I'm know I'm one to talk....but I usually leave negativity to the shit performances. Not the good ones

[berbzy 'G']

Our defenders looked very good tonight (execpt for Lee)... Judging on the way our defence has been since King has returned... Do you's think we can hold on to the end of the season, or should we still buy out now aswell?

[nuttyhotspurs]

Gawd. I'm know I'm one to talk....but I usually leave negativity to the shit performances. Not the good ones

it was good but still frustrating performance. like i said before some ppl are a lot easily pleased than me. maybe i expect too much :)

[Baleinho]

Your right...

Yeh we should of won; but think of it positively.. there is no way we are out of it... By all means we can take um at our ground; its all to play for boys and girls

COYS!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

[nuttyhotspurs]

Our defenders looked very good tonight (execpt for Lee)... Judging on the way our defence has been since King has returned... Do you's think we can hold on to the end of the season, or should we still buy out now aswell?

im one of the worst critics of lee (he isnt good enough) but he was alright tonite, didnt do a lot wrong. unlucky with the goal

we definitely need a new centre half and **** off rocha etc. theres been talk off shipping off chimbo, hope that aint true. we need a new left back aswell to be honest. a solid defensive lb. i cant see bale making it as a defender but what do i know, aint seen a lot of him in action! hes always bloody crocked!

[Baleinho]

bale is phenominal.. trouble is i think he lacks the tackle (excuse the pun)

ive never been a real big fan of lee, he does the job.. nothing outstanding or noticable.. just gets on with his job i suppose.

Would like to have seen urby here; but hes an easily influenced **** so **** him.

As far as chimbo goes- i DO like him and rate him as a footballer, but you can tell he is money driven.. if a club offered him a bigger salary than spurs.. no matter where- he would take it. I just dont like his lack of loyalty.

Also; unfortunately i havent seen much of rocha; i dont think any of us have... hes not bad; not top draw but more of a fringe backup player.

[jrio]

im one of the worst critics of lee (he isnt good enough) but he was alright tonite, didnt do a lot wrong. unlucky with the goal

we definitely need a new centre half and **** off rocha etc. theres been talk off shipping off chimbo, hope that aint true. we need a new left back aswell to be honest. a solid defensive lb. i cant see bale making it as a defender but what do i know, aint seen a lot of him in action! hes always bloody crocked!

You'll need to make a temporary change to your signature team as it doesn't look as though Bale will play this season.

[jrio]

As far as chimbo goes- i DO like him and rate him as a footballer, but you can tell he is money driven.. if a club offered him a bigger salary than spurs.. no matter where- he would take it. I just dont like his lack of loyalty.


Bet ya liked it when he left Wigan for us so easily though, eh? ;)

[Baleinho]

Bet ya liked it when he left Wigan for us so easily though, eh? ;)

*no comment*

heheh..

well i guess you've got me there.

[Spur]

Since we're playing in England, the obvious alternative would be immediate penalties and no ET. Last year's defeat would have been shorter, and a sort of moral victory. Is that what you want, mjb? I think he wants a huge cake only he's allowed to eat. ;)

Personally what i'd like to see is football.

If it's a draw and away goals are equal then i'd like to see football. Pure football. If it takes three weeks then so be it. But I want to see the ball hit the back of the net, maybe golden goal style, maybe not, maybe 'halves' of 15 minutes, but as many 'halves' as it takes. I'm no longer calling them 'halves', they can be called periods. No i'm not American.

It's something i've never seen happen, and i'd like to see it.

No pens, maybe no away goals, although that would discourage those away from home, just football.

[nuttyhotspurs]

You'll need to make a temporary change to your signature team as it doesn't look as though Bale will play this season.


my signature team is just wishful thinking mate!

[jrio]

Personally what i'd like to see is football.

If it's a draw and away goals are equal then i'd like to see football. Pure football. If it takes three weeks then so be it. But I want to see the ball hit the back of the net, maybe golden goal style, maybe not, maybe 'halves' of 15 minutes, but as many 'halves' as it takes. I'm no longer calling them 'halves', they can be called periods. No i'm not American.

It's something i've never seen happen, and i'd like to see it.

No pens, maybe no away goals, although that would discourage those away from home, just football.
That used to happen. Arsenal and Liverpool had 3 replays in the 1980 FA semi before there was a result. You might be surprised to learn that the one thing no one was calling for was more football. :eek:

I predict you will be ending up in America. ;)

[TURKISH]

Im a happy bunny after tonight and hopefully we can stuff them at the lane.

Back in 99 i was at selhurst when iversen lobbed sullivan and we went to the final and what a feeling that was fans running on the pitch ect. Could see the same again.

[peterc]

Im a happy bunny after tonight and hopefully we can stuff them at the lane.

Back in 99 i was at selhurst when iversen lobbed sullivan and we went to the final and what a feeling that was fans running on the pitch ect. Could see the same again.

Fingers crossed, it could easily happen.

[neilmcnab]

we were immense , played a good game defensively, you could see by kings interview he was upset about their goal, it was his only lapse,

for me lee done well, he has been our only left sided player all season, and for a few seasons now, so he under pressure, and he has done well,
how many other prem teams boast 1 left back. who aint left footed

o,hara did really well, as 1st haft he made a few big mistakes, so credit to the youngman.

lennon done ok, but needs to be more selfish and intent on scoring, he had a few chances where he made wrong passes.

BERBA was ,well he owned the pitch ...arse had no answer to him ,his control was sublime, made us play and controlled the pace of the game, for periods

in contrast keano was on the edge of the game and has been for last 2/3 games,i think the pen miss hit his confidence, and subsiquently he hasnt had a decent effort on goal, he had a few opertunities and was short of pace for 1, even tho he had yds on last defender, the other he mised target from 12yrds,

jd should of scored , clear sitter,as were malbranch chance.

mal did recover and play ok. jj did ok, as did chimbonda, he was really good covering well,

daws, his distribution is woefull and he always pass back to keeper who give posesion back to other team, needs to compose himself, stop rushing the pass, and stop diving in from behind, instead he should take up good position and have good body shape.

I COULDNT ASK FOR MORE, WE PLAYED AND THE GAME IN BALANCE, MAYBE SUITS US AS IF WE WERE IN LEAD IT MIGHT BRING IN COMPLACENCY....

C O Y SPURS

[mjbmedia]

Same in Europe, mjb. You finish equal after 90 mins from each of 2 legs and the away team in the 2nd leg has an extra 30 to get an away goal. What the hell are you asking for?
no, its not the same as in Europe. In Europe away goals count after 90 minutes ,so each team has 90 minutes to score their away goals , then theres extra time if the away goals are the same. ie first leg 1-1 2nd leg 0-0 all over after 90 minutes first leg away team go thru on away goal both team having had 90 minutes to score there away goals.

Whereas in carling cup irrespective of the away goals sitauation after 90 minutes theres extra time and THEN away goals come into reckoning. ie could be 1-1 then 0-0 and still be extra time . in extra time it could end 2-2 so the 2nd leg away team go thru having had an extra 30 minutes to score their away goals, after 90 the first leg away team would have gone thru under the Euro rules.

Comprendez??

[JuicE]

WOW! That sounds fair! :rolleyes:

And very well explained i might add......i think!

[JuicE]

Im a happy bunny after tonight and hopefully we can stuff them at the lane.

Back in 99 i was at selhurst when iversen lobbed sullivan and we went to the final and what a feeling that was fans running on the pitch ect. Could see the same again.

I was at the final in 99....Boring as **** game that it was. I do recall thinking to myself, **** this shithole needs knocking down! :D

[MiloMinderbinder]

are you talking about the final??? lol that team was nothing like the team spurs played tonight. unless you think fabregas et al are 2nd string

u can keep sayin it aint 2nd string , they got loads of experience, they play a lot blah ****in blah ****in blah. the facts are its a ****in 2nd string team and we could not put them away with a full a team at ALMOST full strength (bale missing)

burnley nearly got a ****in result against em on sat for ****s sake.

First off great game, trully the first NLD I recall enjoying watching for years, unlucky but then that's what happens if you rely on the Andy Cole of his generation to knock in an easy chance (that's why you can go JD!). Secondly this 2nd string/kids thing is realy pissing me off, can we just confirm IT'S MEDIA GENEREATED BULLSHIT LAPPED UP BY MORONS! let's look at the Scum players on the pitch last night;

Fabianski - full international, Hoyte - u21, Senderos - full international, Djourou - full international, Traore - u21 (gonna be a star), Walcott - full international, Denilson - u21 (gonna be a star), Gilberto Silva - full international, Diaby - full international, Van Persie - full international, Bendtner - full international, Eduardo - full international, Sagna - full international.

Need I say more? Or does anyone want to denegrate themselves by buying into the the tabloids arse licking?

[Baleinho]

First off great game, trully the first NLD I recall enjoying watching for years, unlucky but then that's what happens if you rely on the Andy Cole of his generation to knock in an easy chance (that's why you can go JD!). Secondly this 2nd string/kids thing is realy pissing me off, can we just confirm IT'S MEDIA GENEREATED BULLSHIT LAPPED UP BY MORONS! let's look at the Scum players on the pitch last night;

Fabianski - full international, Hoyte - u21, Senderos - full international, Djourou - full international, Traore - u21 (gonna be a star), Walcott - full international, Denilson - u21 (gonna be a star), Gilberto Silva - full international, Diaby - full international, Van Persie - full international, Bendtner - full international, Eduardo - full international, Sagna - full international.

Need I say more? Or does anyone want to denegrate themselves by buying into the the tabloids arse licking?

I agree with you there- but the thing is in comparison to the scums 'main team' its medeocre at best (besites fabianski, van persie and eduardo)

[MiloMinderbinder]

I agree with you there- but the thing is in comparison to the scums 'main team' its medeocre at best (besites fabianski, van persie and eduardo)

Mah, whilst it's not as strong as the Scum's 1st team it is FAR from mediocre, that is a phrase to be applied to West Ham's 1st team. This Scum side would and will turn over many sides, 10 full internationals just shows what a load of happy horseshit the media talk, the worst part is people believe it.

BTW; Although Robbie was not on fire tonight we would not have played as well without him, his harrying of the backline was top class, the guy must have a bicycle pump for lungs, JJ as well great commitment to the cause. As for Ledley, jesus wept the man is trully the best defender in the country bar none IMO three steps up from Terry and two up from JarJar, is there anything he can't do (apart from stay fit)?

[Spur]

First off great game, trully the first NLD I recall enjoying watching for years, unlucky but then that's what happens if you rely on the Andy Cole of his generation to knock in an easy chance (that's why you can go JD!). Secondly this 2nd string/kids thing is realy pissing me off, can we just confirm IT'S MEDIA GENEREATED BULLSHIT LAPPED UP BY MORONS! let's look at the Scum players on the pitch last night;

Fabianski - full international, Hoyte - u21, Senderos - full international, Djourou - full international, Traore - u21 (gonna be a star), Walcott - full international, Denilson - u21 (gonna be a star), Gilberto Silva - full international, Diaby - full international, Van Persie - full international, Bendtner - full international, Eduardo - full international, Sagna - full international.

Need I say more? Or does anyone want to denegrate themselves by buying into the the tabloids arse licking?

Only one of those players in the squad played in the last reserve game, and according to the official site only 4 have featured at all this season for the ressies. That was two players on the bench that didn't get on, one that got on for 30 seconds and Armand Traore.

Also it was pointed out to me last night that Arsenal's wage budget goes to 90mil, whilst ours is at 45mil, so you'd expect them to have two teams capable of beating us anyway!

[Ginola's Son]

Its just so good to see some praise for Spurs in the papers today.

[Welsh Spur]

no, its not the same as in Europe. In Europe away goals count after 90 minutes ,so each team has 90 minutes to score their away goals , then theres extra time if the away goals are the same. ie first leg 1-1 2nd leg 0-0 all over after 90 minutes first leg away team go thru on away goal both team having had 90 minutes to score there away goals.

Whereas in carling cup irrespective of the away goals sitauation after 90 minutes theres extra time and THEN away goals come into reckoning. ie could be 1-1 then 0-0 and still be extra time . in extra time it could end 2-2 so the 2nd leg away team go thru having had an extra 30 minutes to score their away goals, after 90 the first leg away team would have gone thru under the Euro rules.

Comprendez??

I have never realised this myself. How come no-one who matters has? How can it be fair that one of the teams gets an extra 30 min to score their away goals???

[wayne wonder]

Realistically the tie should be over but hey ho the scum are a lucky bunch!!

And al this we should have beat their kids stuff is doing my nut in end of the day you can only play and beat whats in front of you( in our case draw)

Last season they ripped everton a full strength everton a new one and took a more than full strength chelshit side to the wire so give the lads credit + how many games have arsenal lost at home since they've been at the hemerides stadium??

[wayne wonder]

I have never realised this myself. How come no-one who matters has? How can it be fair that one of the teams gets an extra 30 min to score their away goals???

it's the rules my friend!!! shit but its the rules

[Ginola's Son]

How can you be 'more' than full strength?

[wayne wonder]

How can you be 'more' than full strength?

extra strength;)

[Ginola's Son]

People forget that Adebayor, Toure and Eboue played last year.

[Defoe8]

Arsenal didn't play bad, we made them play bad.

We closed down their players quickly, chased down every ball and wern't afraid to get stuck in and thus we didn't allow them to play their usual passing game.

Yes we sould have won, but i'm delighted with a draw away from home, considering how bad our defence has been this season.

Malbranque and Lennon were excellent on the wings, Berba held the ball up well upfront and Cerny was solid. Special praise has to be given to Ledders, my god have we missed him, he was a brick wall at the back yesterday and led the team like a general, hell he even made Dawson look good.

Bring on the 2nd leg!!

Oh and don't forget when we did play Arsenal's full team this season at The New Library, we played them off the pitch and if Keaneo hadn't missed the penalty we'd have won or at least got a draw!! That was without Ledley King as well!!

[Ginola's Son]

True...but its a loss in the record books. out of the 21 non-wins...we have outplayed them a number of times but just can't get a win!

[nuttyhotspurs]

First off great game, trully the first NLD I recall enjoying watching for years, unlucky but then that's what happens if you rely on the Andy Cole of his generation to knock in an easy chance (that's why you can go JD!). Secondly this 2nd string/kids thing is realy pissing me off, can we just confirm IT'S MEDIA GENEREATED BULLSHIT LAPPED UP BY MORONS! let's look at the Scum players on the pitch last night;

Need I say more? Or does anyone want to denegrate themselves by buying into the the tabloids arse licking?

it aint media generated bullshit, you cant get away from the fact that it was a very understrength arsenal side u21,world cup winners,internationals or not, second string, reserve team, fringe team whatever the **** you want to call it, it was not EVEN CLOSE to a full strength team. we played a pretty much full strength team and even though we should have beat them we didn't . thats all i was saying. i aint a moron mate :)

spoke to a few arse fans today at work and they cant believe we didnt beat them and all were happy they are still in the tie

[Ginola's Son]

Its not their full side, but they are nearly as good as their full side! Can't you bloody well understand that!

[jrio]

no, its not the same as in Europe. In Europe away goals count after 90 minutes ,so each team has 90 minutes to score their away goals , then theres extra time if the away goals are the same. ie first leg 1-1 2nd leg 0-0 all over after 90 minutes first leg away team go thru on away goal both team having had 90 minutes to score there away goals.

Whereas in carling cup irrespective of the away goals sitauation after 90 minutes theres extra time and THEN away goals come into reckoning. ie could be 1-1 then 0-0 and still be extra time . in extra time it could end 2-2 so the 2nd leg away team go thru having had an extra 30 minutes to score their away goals, after 90 the first leg away team would have gone thru under the Euro rules.

Comprendez??
But if they're completely level in Europe - if both legs ended one each - the away team in the second leg then has an extra 30 minutes to get an away goal. What you're asking for is away goals to count after FT when the clubs are all playing in the same country. The away goals after ET is just a way to avoid the lottery of penalties.

[jrio]

Fabianski - full international, Hoyte - u21, Senderos - full international, Djourou - full international, Traore - u21 (gonna be a star), Walcott - full international, Denilson - u21 (gonna be a star), Gilberto Silva - full international, Diaby - full international, Van Persie - full international, Bendtner - full international, Eduardo - full international, Sagna - full international.

Describing Walcott as "full international" just because he came on as sub for 20 mins in a friendly is rather misleading. You're rating him on the same level as Senderos and Djourou(first choice CBs for Switzerland), VP(regular starter for Holland) and Gilberto, who's won the WC.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Describing Walcott as "full international" just because he came on as sub for 20 mins in a friendly is rather misleading. You're rating him on the same level as Senderos and Djourou(first choice CBs for Switzerland), VP(regular starter for Holland) and Gilberto, who's won the WC.

Shit, I hoped no one would pick up on that. Trust you to pick holes! :D

Even given the fact that Walnut is not an international regular, the fact remains that 90% of those Scum players would make 90% of EPL first teams and thus leaves the notion that they are "reserves" and "2nd string" rather redundant, indeed 2nd string implies 2nd rate which they are patently not.

It's just the media doing what they always do and jumping on their own bandwagon, I reckon if one publishes a story stating "Jol is a martian intent on wiping out the human race" then the rest of them will publish or espouse similar stories on the basis they don't want to be last to "break the story to our readers/viewers".

In point of fact, in O'Hara we had a player (who dominated the midfield) with less experience than any of the Goons, something the media will be most reluctant to point out.

[neilmcnab]

thats the same group of players who walked blackburn at their place in previous round, may i point out a full strenth blackburn who every1 knows aint no push overs,

credit due we pressured arse and didnbt allow them to play,

the pace took toll on ven persie, and arse players regularly ran into each other,

theo twisted his ankle , trying to read young ohara,

think arse takin spurs for granted,

this is tottenham with segnor ramos at the helm.

[RuFuS]

I noticed when a scum defender passed the ball onto the scum player on the wing where Y.P. Lee, Y.P.Lee didn't have the pace to catch upto the ball and King had to move into Lee's wing cos Lee was to slow...
Anyone else notice?

Picky, picky. Perhaps it was a good ball to the scum player. Perhaps our midfielder in front of Lee didn't do his job and exposed him and Ledders then did his job by covering Lee.
Defending as a unit is what it's about. Something we aint done for a while.
Go watch some Bobby Moore vids. Pace aint everything

Our defenders looked very good tonight (execpt for Lee)
2nd dig at Lee

OK then Ramos .Who would you have played in his place ?
The criteria is as follows
1: Has to be a current Spurs Player.
2: Has to be a current FIT Spurs Player.
3: Has to be a current FIT, NOT SUSPENDED Spurs Player.
4: Has to be a current FIT, NOT SUSPENDED,CUP TIED, or with their national team @ ACN, Spurs Player.
Personally i blame Lee for the goal :rolleyes: I mean if he had not made the tackle that hit waltot and went and left Cerny stranded. Waltot would have blazed it over the bar for certain.

[Ginola's Son]

LOL...First time I've ever agreed with you..

[RuFuS]

Gawd. I'm know I'm one to talk....but I usually leave negativity to the shit performances. Not the good ones


Go on try......you know you want to :D :rolleyes: :p

you may have posted to soon ;)

[RuFuS]

does the ruuner up in the carling cup get an automatic euro place? obviously if the team that won it were to qualify for europe by other means

No. That euro place go's to a league placing.

[Ginola's Son]

They should take away the FA cup runner up spot then

[RuFuS]

They should take away the FA cup runner up spot then

No that was a Cup winners cup spot that turned into a Uefa spot when the CWC was IMO wrongly abolished.

[RuFuS]

Yeh we should of won; but think of it positively.. there is no way we are out of it... By all means we can take um at our ground; its all to play for boys and girls
COYS!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Realistically the tie should be over but hey ho the scum are a lucky bunch!!
And al this we should have beat their kids stuff is doing my nut in end of the day you can only play and beat whats in front of you( in our case draw)

It's all a cunning plan by Ramos.
We win 1-0 at their place and wenger would play his 'A' team at WHL for the second leg, 1-1 and he'll stick with the 'B's'
Playing your 'b' team away at Blackburn or at the saftey of home to your bitterist rival's is one thing.

Playing @ WHL is going to be a completely different occasion.

We are apparently the second loudest behind Sunderland.The guy who measured the noise at football grounds had better come back with his meter because we're gonna break it and those pesky kids.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Its not their full side, but they are nearly as good as their full side! Can't you bloody well understand that!

nearly as good????? lmfao they aint even close