Match Thread: Ars*nal vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[berbzy 'G']

This is gonna be one of those games were we will hit the post 7 times throughout the match, Then they'll score on the 89th minute or something...

A draw will be a good result if we can atleast get something out of it, But I want revenge against those tossa's...

[corkspur]

yeah,would settle for a draw here.if zokora is available i would give us a good chance.

[choda]

Well I think we have as good a chance as we've ever had since Wenger has been there by virtue that we are far better tactically and coaching wise. And if we do play well and take the lead then we won't stop playing and get hockeyed second half.

[Keanoldinho]

Big ****n game. The biggest NLD for a long time Ramos first and I'm sure he'll want to win big time. Ramos wins this and he's a Spurs legend already. The scummy bastards will probably field their full strength team here's a player by player break down from my perspective

Robbo/Alumini - Robbo shits all over him in my book when Robbo is on form like the last few games he's one of the best around.

Chimbo/Sagna - They're ****n identical in their playing styles not much in it there.

Lee/Glichy - Glichy is probably a bit better than Lee going forward as he has a good left peg and is fast as **** he's probably got Lee.

Kaboul/Gallas - Depends what Kaboul we see because the one from the last few games has been incredible but even so Gallas is fecking class and always shows up.

Zokora/Toure - At CB Toure hands down but Zoko has been playing very well there hopefully he'll be available because of the appeal process.

Lennon/Rosicky - Lennon is a better winger and will hopefully keep Glichy pinned back most of the game but Rosicky is very skilful to. I'd pick Lennon though everytime for RW

Malbranque/Hleb - Malbranque has been lethal for us lately but Hleb is a dangerman too and there's not much in it between these 2 on present form.

Boateng/Fabregas - If Boateng is given a man-marking job on Fab I think Boa would thrive and shut the little diving prima donna down. Boa is strong reads the game well and tackles powerfully and clean. This match up could decide the game but Fab will start hitting the dirt as soon as he sees Boa so the ref will most likely play a big part in this particular battle if he lets protects Fab or treats him like a regular player.

Jenas/Flamini - JJ at present would shit all over Flamini I'm confident JJ and Boa can win the midfield battle.

Berbatov/Adebayor - Both great target men but I think Berbs is a more complete player and his finishing is better but Adebayor is not one to underestimate he's got a very good alround game.

Keano/Van Pervie - both quality but Keano is a special type of player and with the goon rusty coming back from injuries I would take Keano everyday of the week.


It's a big game but the way Ramos has us playing right now I think we can nick it 2-1 and this will be a historical day for us as Ramos wins his first ever NLD. But as long as we at least get a draw and manure win then we will knock the goons out of top spot and I'll be chuffed to bits. Can't wait for the game I see no reason why we can't win it or at least get a draw we're playing class at the minute.

I think wingers on each team will be crucial who ever collectively has a bigger game between Lennon/Malbranque and Hleb/Rosicky then there team will probably win the game. I can't wait this game is hugh and to knock the scum out of 1st place would be a great Xmas present.

[mjbmedia]

**** it im up for this big time, watch out neighbours put your ear muffs on , hide the cat, my birds got a hard hat on and we're ready

[TURKISH]

As long as its a tight game and we do oursleves proud then i will just take that!

I just hope we don't get embarrassed! We haven't fully turned that corner yet and this will be our biggest test yet.

Even if we don't get nothing from this game we will still have 2 home games over christmas which could be 6points in the bag!:cool:

[Keanoldinho]

As long as its a tight game and we do oursleves proud then i will just take that!

I just hope we don't get embarrassed! We haven't fully turned that corner yet and this will be our biggest test yet.

Even if we don't get nothing from this game we will still have 2 home games over christmas which could be 6points in the bag!:cool:



**** that shit I want at least a point or I'll be pissed the **** off. I don't care how we do it we can put a sniper in the crowd and pick the bastards off 1 by 1 for all I care. Forget how we play in this one forget everything we need a ****ing result nothing else matters.

[choda]

**** it im up for this big time, watch out neighbours put your ear muffs on , hide the cat, my birds got a hard on and we're ready

Read the above again very carefully. Order a bird from Thailand did we? :p ;) :D

Hide the cat? I don't even want to know what that's about. :D

[\jackdaw]

Would love to say yes this is 3 points for us but with all our defence problems ie injuries and suspensions I think we will struggle. We have a more realistic chance beating them away from home in the cup but cant see us getting a result here.

I would settle for a draw but can see us losing 2-0

[jrio]

Edit: Xxxxxxxx

[mjbmedia]

WARNING WARNING WARNING to Senor Ramos

if you thought it got lairy and loud in some Spanish games, WELCOME TO REAL FOOTBALL , NLD , atmosphere to die for, real hatred of the opposition fans and players and staff and ground and every ****ing thing about the skank shits (Ginolas Son excused from this) .

Enjoy Juande. :cool:

[choda]

They didn't last time, they won't this time.

This is the league thread buddy.

[RuFuS]

Chef : Piece of Cake
Basil Fawlty : Have you seen that piece of cake ?

[peterc]

Bring it on, I'm going for 0-1 win to the mighty Spurs.

[jrio]

This is the league thread buddy.

You were a bit too quick there, buddy. I edited it within 3 minutes. Shame you couldn't do that so quickly when actually addressing points and constructing a balanced response. :D

[olly27]

I think we can get a draw at the Immigrants Stadium...going for 1-1.

[irishspur]

1-0 to spurs. kpb can shut fabregas out and make him look and feel v. small. Losing zokora is a huge blow, will daws be back or what?

[berbzy 'G']

i'm shitting this game... :(

[Spur]

Dragon on COYS left this message:

dawson aint fit for sat, he aint far off but wont make sat, rochas fit we shall see, may leave back 4 as it finished up at city

Personally, if Dawson is so much as 90% fit he will make sure he plays. He is that type of person. Unless we chuck Rocha in then I expect to see Kaboul and Chimbo.

[RuFuS]

I think their fans are a bit worried and if we can go 1 up they will get on their backs. They dont lose to us ,they dont lose at home. The pressure on them if we get ahead will be unbearable.

In RAMOS i trust.

[mjbmedia]

i think this is JJ's game , its his time , i feel really good about this game, last time i felt that good about an NLD was the 91 semi!!!! and i expect the same result :cool:

[Milney yid]

I hope we don't go 1-0 up. Seriously, I've lost count of the number of times over the years we've taken the lead, gone ecstatic, then sat back and either lost or drawn. I don't think this will happen under Ramos, as we look far stronger and dominant in games than we have been for ages. Hoping for a Spurs win of course, but I'm never optimistic going into the game that we havn't won since the 90s.

[Ioang]

I think their fans are a bit worried and if we can go 1 up they will get on their backs. They dont lose to us ,they dont lose at home. The pressure on them if we get ahead will be unbearable.

In RAMOS i trust.

They aren't like us though, they thrive on that pressure, they're just winners. We need to take a leaf out of their book - this might work in the carling cup but not the league against the 'adult' team. We just need to stay competetive and win over the 90 minutes.

[Ioang]

I hope we don't go 1-0 up. Seriously, I've lost count of the number of times over the years we've taken the lead, gone ecstatic, then sat back and either lost or drawn. I don't think this will happen under Ramos, as we look far stronger and dominant in games than we have been for ages. Hoping for a Spurs win of course, but I'm never optimistic going into the game that we havn't won since the 90s.

I agree. It's almost as if going up puts pressure on US - see exhibit A, Chelsea at home in the league last season, going 1-0 down to Makalele.

[Keanoldinho]

I hope we don't go 1-0 up. Seriously, I've lost count of the number of times over the years we've taken the lead, gone ecstatic, then sat back and either lost or drawn. I don't think this will happen under Ramos, as we look far stronger and dominant in games than we have been for ages. Hoping for a Spurs win of course, but I'm never optimistic going into the game that we havn't won since the 90s.


Well I hope we do shit I hope we go 1-0 up then 2-0 up then 3-0 up and keep our third consecutive cleen sheet on the road. Ramos is here these bastards better be ready for us because he'll have us going straight for the ****s throats from open to close playing the beatiful game the way it was meant to be played. I'm well up for it I haven't been this confident about a derby game since Gazza and Lineker were here and Venables was the manager.

[ronseyward]

I really hate this game - it turns you in and out wth so many mixed emotions praying we are going to turn them over for once then being let down again time and time again - I think this is the turning point in our season get a result here and we will make the others look at us as anything other than also rans - thiis is the season for magic we have to believe - believe - I also think he should go for the throat and play all four strikers if fit -

Robinson

Chimbonda - Kaboul - Staltieri - Lee

Lennon Jenas - Malbranque

Defoe Keane Bent Berbatov

Anyway here's hoping and Merry Christmas to all you guys from Sunny Cyprus - Ron

[jrio]

I think their fans are a bit worried and if we can go 1 up they will get on their backs. They dont lose to us ,they dont lose at home. The pressure on them if we get ahead will be unbearable.

In RAMOS i trust.

I really can't imagine their fans are at all worried. They've gone behind to us multiple times over the past decade, never lost and often won 3-1. Going one down is a fairly common experience for them at the Emirates and then they usually win in the last 10 minutes. Nil-nil is a possibility but if we concede in the first 20 minutes we could get a pasting.

[Apples]

yeah same.

[Sparkystav]

Robinson

Chimbonda - Kaboul - Staltieri - Lee

Lennon Jenas - Malbranque

Defoe Keane Bent Berbatov


Isn't that 12 men?

could be a problem with that side lol

[shakey18]

I love what the Prince said in the Daily Mail.
"I don't like Arsenal, although I admire the way they play. The fans really hate each other and it is a big thing for me to beat them because I want to see our supporters smiling."
Love it!.

[TURKISH]

I love what the Prince said in the Daily Mail.
"I don't like Arsenal, although I admire the way they play. The fans really hate each other and it is a big thing for me to beat them because I want to see our supporters smiling."
Love it!.


What prince said that? I thought they were villa fans?

[shakey18]

What prince said that? I thought they were villa fans?

Thats the sort of thing Carlton Banks would say!

[TURKISH]

Thats the sort of thing Carlton Banks would say!

IM AN IDIOT!:o

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Oh well that cheered me up!

I got to remember we have royalty in our team with king and kpb!:confused:

[shakey18]

IM AN IDIOT!:o

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Oh well that cheered me up!

I got to remember we have royalty in our team with king and kpb!:confused:

Saturday should be interesting then, because the other side have plenty of queens!.:p

[irishspur]

I really hate this game - it turns you in and out wth so many mixed emotions praying we are going to turn them over for once then being let down again time and time again - I think this is the turning point in our season get a result here and we will make the others look at us as anything other than also rans - thiis is the season for magic we have to believe - believe - I also think he should go for the throat and play all four strikers if fit -

Robinson

Chimbonda - Kaboul - Staltieri - Lee

Lennon Jenas - Malbranque

Defoe Keane Bent Berbatov

Anyway here's hoping and Merry Christmas to all you guys from Sunny Cyprus - Ron

wats 4-3-4?:p

[shakey18]

I don't care if we win with an own goal, a dodgy ref decision (we're due one), a goal deflected off the ref, a goal from Lee Young-Pyo, or a goal via Ramos' ass.AS LONG AS WE WIN!!!!!.Come ****IN' on!!!!!!!!!......and yes i've been drinking!!!

[gazzaG8]

Well we're due a ****ing win against the scum! But i'd sooner win the cup ties than tomorrows game

[jrio]

Saturday should be interesting then, because the other side have plenty of queens!.:p

They've got plenty of knaves, not queens, Eboue being prominent amongst them. As a combined diver, referee-berater, thuggish fouler and injury-feigner, who has ever come closer? Even Savage seems to lag far behind, and after the hatred I felt during his conduct in the 1999 LC Final I find that astonishing.

[berbzy 'G']

I love what the Prince said in the Daily Mail.
"I don't like Arsenal, although I admire the way they play. The fans really hate each other and it is a big thing for me to beat them because I want to see our supporters smiling."
Love it!.

I swear they're Villa fans thoe :confused: ... I know the Queen's a huge Arsenal fan (silly cow) :(

[berbzy 'G']

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premier-league/article3276281.ece

What do you all think... good decision... But I think he'll be nervous starting his first game for Spurs at a massive match like this, not sure wether he'll handle it to well... Hope O'hara proves me wrong :o

[shakey18]

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premier-league/article3276281.ece

What do you all think... good decision... But I think he'll be nervous starting his first game for Spurs at a massive match like this, not sure wether he'll handle it to well... Hope O'hara proves me wrong :o

What about JJ? If he is fit, JJ will start.If O'Hara has to start, his previous with the scum will give him extra incentive.I don't give a **** who plays well, as long as we win.

[Welsh Spur]

We are crippled with injuries and are away to the league leaders. I'll take a good performance and 100% effort. If we win it'll be a bonus. Let's just say I'm not expecting too much. But I do expect us to dispose of them in the CC.

[jrio]

Tottenham: Robinson, Tainio, Chimbonda, Kaboul, Lee, Lennon, O'Hara, Boateng, Malbranque, Berbatov, Keane

Subs: Cerny, Defoe, Taarabt, Huddlestone, Archibald-Henville

[Ioang]

Where's Jenas? He's been great recently!!

[denis-cro]

Scum with full strength squad, and Spurs with 2nd ( or even 3rd ) line up... :(

[denis-cro]

Where's Jenas? He's been great recently!! Injured !!!

[Keanoldinho]

Tottenham: Robinson, Tainio, Chimbonda, Kaboul, Lee, Lennon, O'Hara, Boateng, Malbranque, Berbatov, Keane

Subs: Cerny, Defoe, Taarabt, Huddlestone, Archibald-Henville


****n ell our defence looks a mess ahh well here's hoping we do these ****s



COYS

[SurreySpur]

Im not looking forward to this at all. I dont fancy Kaboul or Chimbonda against Adebayor with fabregas, Hleb and Rosicky running off him. I hope KPB can keep his head because he's going to be doing a lot of chasing and pressing this afternoon and he's clearly quite an excitable character. There will be a sending off today, i have no doubt about it.

[\jackdaw]

Not the best line up for the Spurs to say the least .. could be a bit of a bloodbath :(

[Spur]

Jamie O'****in Hara - Time to shine son!

COYS

[denis-cro]

Jamie O'****in Hara - Time to shine son!


Adel Taarabt... Spurs´JOKER from the bench !!! ;)

[SurreySpur]

Oh ****ing hell

Rob Styles is the ref! He ****ing hates us!!

[\jackdaw]

Oh ****ing hell

Rob Styles is the ref! He ****ing hates us!!

Oh feck.. how long till the first Spurs player gets sent off

[jrio]

Hmm, no probs with the livefooty feed. That's a first for me this season.

O'Hara began his career at Arsenal? How so?

[SurreySpur]

I've just heard Dawson is out with a ****ing migraine!! Is this true?

[\jackdaw]

O'Hara began his career at Arsenal? How so?

Began as a schoolboy at the arse and cmae to us at about 15/16 or so.

[MACCSPURS]

I've just heard Dawson is out with a ****ing migraine!! Is this true?

Yes, it's the same reason why he did not play against City during the week.

[MACCSPURS]

Have to say I like what I have seen of Boateng in the last couple of games and today. Loving his attitude and how he gets stuck in.

[SurreySpur]

So far so good for the lads, we look strong and compact. We need more from Berba and Keano tho

[MarlowSpurs]

I've just heard Dawson is out with a ****ing migraine!! Is this true?

More like period pain the ****in ponce

[SurreySpur]

Lennon has to try and vary his game a little if he's going to get any joy down the right. Clichy has him completely sussed so far.

[\jackdaw]

Solid first half display by the boys..

Jamie O'Hara what a blinder he has had so far

[SurreySpur]

Good first half boys!!

HAHAHA Jamie O'Hara and KPB are bossing it !!

[Keanoldinho]

very impressed with O'Hara and Boateng but that tackle Flamini did on Kaboul woulda been a red card if we did it these refs are bastards.

[denis-cro]

Well, I´m very proud of the boys !!!! COYS!!!!!!!! But we must be aware of Arse**l´s last ten minutes of the game, cause they usually won their games in that period of the match !!!

[irishspur]

dont forget robbo ultra-solid and finding berbs every single time. o'hara shud ave taken that free-kick. so far so good.

[Spur]

Hmm, no probs with the livefooty feed. That's a first for me this season.

O'Hara began his career at Arsenal? How so?

He began his career there, I think he's a lifelong Spurs fan though...?

Anyway, he got chucked out because he's English, and now he's bossing a game at their home ground. Only he's playing for the opposition.

Think he's having a good game, started out being out of position a couple times - at one point he chased the ball and was furthest man forward. But he's grown into the game, putting his foot on the ball, picking out passes both short and long, tackling and tracking back - he's going the whole nine yards. Let's hope he can carry it on for another 45!

I thought to myself (but daren't say it out loud) after about half hour that we looked like the home side. We had the ball, we were knocking it around, we just weren't creating clear cut chances.

[LifeTimeYido]

A damn fine 1st 1/2 for the boys

We look pretty good out there - taking it to the scum is working.

[Spur]

Lennon has to try and vary his game a little if he's going to get any joy down the right. Clichy has him completely sussed so far.

Yea Lennon needs to get out of his pocket.

[jrio]

A very disciplined and solid display from the boys, if lacking a bit of an edge up front. Berb has had an awful lot of ball from dropping off but been too slow to release or find anyone. Lennon has been almost completely owned by Clichy. O'Hara's looked like a player with a point to prove and is not overawed in the slightest. I have the feeling if Arsenal are going to score it will be breaking from one of our attacks in the latter stages. I actually told a friend I thought it could be nil nil, largely basing this on our solidity in the last 2 games, and thinking Ramos would have learnt a lot from Sevilla's 3 nil defeat there.

[denis-cro]

very impressed with O'Hara and Boateng but that tackle Flamini did on Kaboul woulda been a red card if we did it these refs are bastards.

That foul should be at lest a yellow !!!! :mad:

[irishspur]

tainio is havin a great game at right back he looks a natural.

[berbzy 'G']

Tainio and O'hara are playing well... Berbatov keeps falling over all the time like he's pissed... None of the players are getting the ball to Keane enough...

[\jackdaw]

So far I cant really pick out any one of the Spurs players to say they are having a bad game.

Clichy v Lennon could turn out to be a nice match up.. Lennon seems to be doing the same everytime with him but has got past him a couple times and Clichy is a quality left back. All it takes is for Lennon to get past like he did in the first half and get another good cross in.

[shakey18]

****in knew it

[\jackdaw]

****ing ****s

[SurreySpur]

Shit, Arsenal look like a different team second half!!

Bollocks!

[shakey18]

Andy Gray is a ****in ****.I surprised he can speak, what with his tongue being up Wengers arse

[berbzy 'G']

We've got nothing to play for... We cant even get near there penalty area, let alone score... Shamble....`

[matthius23]

Please get involved Berbatov :(

[Keanoldinho]

we need Taara and Defoe out there asap

[matthius23]

Please get involved Berbatov :(

THANK YOU :D

[Sparkystav]

get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Keanoldinho]

FFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!

Keano so close FFFFFFUUCCKKKKKKK

[shakey18]

Please get involved Berbatov :(

He has now!!! GET IN!!!

[\jackdaw]

****ing clas finish.. get in there Berby ya god

[SurreySpur]

Get In Berba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Keanoldinho]

Bbbbbbbbbeeeeeeerrrrrrbbbbbbyyyyyyyyy

[LifeTimeYido]

Get ****ing in there...............

aww - now ive woken the kids up

COYS !!!!!

[Sparkystav]

Penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Sparkystav]

****ing ****!

[shakey18]

****s sake Robbie

[\jackdaw]

PENALTY !!

Keano .... **** he missed

[Keanoldinho]

i'm ****n shattered Keano ffs man

[Sparkystav]

Another ****

[shakey18]

and those ****s have scored

[\jackdaw]

Dont beleive it...

[LEEBOYSPUR]

Bendtner...****er

[Keanoldinho]

**** sake I seen it coming a mile away when Keano missed the pen

[MACCSPURS]

sack Ramos!

(btw, this was a joke, just wanted to say it first before someone else did (who really meant it :)))

[jrio]

Feared the worst when Pleat insisted: "He doesn't miss. Keane doesn't miss." On the back of him hitting the bar with that chance, I was far from assured.

[jrio]

Taara for Lee. Great move. Lee's again been exposed at the highest level in forward positions for having no left foot,

[Sparkystav]

The ref was looking at the floor! the **** that was another penalty

[MACCSPURS]

The ref was looking at the floor! the **** that was another penalty

You'll never get a penalty for that kinda tackle and Andy Gray got it right when he said if that was outside of the box it would have been a free kick.

[Defoe8]

Typical Spurs capitulate when the pressure is on, and suprise suprise we conceede from a set piece.

I never wanted Keano to play, he's been out for 3 matches and we've won all 3 without him, the team had gelled.

We're never going to beat them, they're just too damn good.

[Sparkystav]

Well i thought we played really well,

just a set piece again.

[\jackdaw]

A game of what could of been .. Keano hitting crossbar and missing the penalty.

All in all a solid display by the team and they did a lot better then I thought they would when I saw the teamsheet. A lot of non first team players out there today and they gave it their all.

Only critism is of Berby, seemed to give up on a lot of balls today but then he did do his job and get the ball in the back of the net.

O'Hara what a blinding debut.. faded towards the end when he dropped back to left back but all in all if he keeps that sort of performance up he is going to be a great player for us.

Chimbo and Kaboul were great at the back except for the second goal and looked good togeather.

Things are looking up, we lost today but the future does look a lot brighter.

[MACCSPURS]

On a serious note, as much as I always want Tottenham to win with Arsenals current form this was always going to be a hard result. I was expecting us to lose but I wanted to see how we performed.

Simple fact is, regardless of Andy Gray keep saying that Arsenal were poor today, I actually think a lot of that was to do with us. Under Ramos, even with the injuries there are so many positives.

If we had scored the penatly, probably would have changed the game and we would have won but it is what it is and we lost. However, there is no way under Jol we would have played the way we did today. We don't even have a proper back four and today we defended like a team.

The Ramos impact is clear for all those who know anything about football to see.

Look on the bright side guys, I wanted Arsenal in the Carling cup semi because I think we can do them and with a couple of players back and the away leg first up I think this could be us in the final.

[denis-cro]

Dont beleive it...

:( .... THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE !!!! i STILL CAN NOT BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY ...:(

[shakey18]

Typical Spurs capitulate when the pressure is on, and suprise suprise we conceede from a set piece.

I never wanted Keano to play, he's been out for 3 matches and we've won all 3 without him, the team had gelled.

We're never going to beat them, they're just too damn good.

Total bollocks mate.Capitulate? what game were you watching?.A side missing a good few first teamers made a much lauded Arse-nal side look nothing like the sub-humans they've been portrayed as.

[matthius23]

We're never going to beat them, they're just too damn good.

Drivel mate... they were second best for long periods.

[Sparkystav]

Yeah, i noticed that about Berba as well gave up far too easily.

Would have loved a draw today, but hopefully some games we can win coming up and if we play like that we should be hopeful.

Stav

[LifeTimeYido]

We played well i thought - with the players we had

Did anyone notice how far Almunia was off his line when he saved the pen from keane ?? - at least 4 yards.

Another day that would have been a win for Spurs - The Carling Cup is a winner for us if we continue to play like that - Full of spirit, fight and a will to win.

Honestly - who thought we never had a chance against a full strength Arse ??

We can still be proud of our lads.

[MACCSPURS]

Only critism is of Berby, seemed to give up on a lot of balls today but then he did do his job and get the ball in the back of the net.

I know what you mean but it has been said to death and that is just the way he plays. All I know is he is playing a whole lot better under Ramos than he did under Jol.

Also, only he could have scored the goal he did today.

As for Keane, he hit the bar and had a penalty saved. It happens, but on another day he could have scored twice.

[MACCSPURS]

Typical Spurs capitulate when the pressure is on, and suprise suprise we conceede from a set piece.

I never wanted Keano to play, he's been out for 3 matches and we've won all 3 without him, the team had gelled.

We're never going to beat them, they're just too damn good.

Are you Arsenal in disguise? :mad:

[jrio]

Typical Spurs capitulate when the pressure is on, and suprise suprise we conceede from a set piece.

I never wanted Keano to play, he's been out for 3 matches and we've won all 3 without him, the team had gelled.

We're never going to beat them, they're just too damn good.
We didn't capitulate. In no sense did Arsenal overwhelm us. The missed penalty was the obvious turning point. The subsequent winner was because Bendtner had just come on and no one had pointed out he needed to be picked up.

Very disappointing for Ramos who did everything right. Compared to our last 2 matches against them, when they completely outclassed us, embarrassingly so last season, this was a revelation. Special mentions to O'Hara, who looked like he'd been starting games all season(apart from that blip in losing possession near the end), and Tainio, who was aggessive, alert and determined.

[LifeTimeYido]

Typical Spurs capitulate when the pressure is on, and suprise suprise we conceede from a set piece.

I never wanted Keano to play, he's been out for 3 matches and we've won all 3 without him, the team had gelled.

We're never going to beat them, they're just too damn good.


I must have been watching a different game to you .....

We did well - We did what teams have failed to do at the emerates - stop arsenal playing for long periods and made them look ordinary.

[\jackdaw]

[QUOTE=MACCSPURS;71010]I know what you mean but it has been said to death and that is just the way he plays. [QUOTE]

Aye I agree there but he just seemed to do it a lot more today. Also people used to say the same thing about Hoddle.

[neilmcnab]

totally agree, why change the team, keane didnt even touch the ball 1st half, and just about touched the ball 3times in 74mins, cost us big time,

and to those who think this guy is world class, there is the proof, world class players influence games.

keane is a good player, but not in the top bracket of strikers in england,
much less the world, it showed today .. he rants far too much, and never touched the ball in the 1st half,

what a chance we had to win or get somthing outa the game.

he looked powder puff againt arse defenders, as he has no pace.

credit due for the back heel for our goal,

but before that he missed another sitter,

i no som of you guys will say it wasnt a sitter, but i think ull find to most top strikers they wud of easily put that in.

[shakey18]

Adebayor man of the match?! Wank.

[Apples]

Are you Arsenal in disguise? :mad:

@Defoe8

Wondered the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!

And do u not like Defoe?

[MACCSPURS]

One last thing, I don't mind losing when I see us work hard. What really pisses me off is when you see the team no even do the basics and try.

Again, Ramos has sorted that out and we really look like a team. I'm not that disappointed because Arsenal have been in form so them winning along with the problems we have had this season it could have been expected.

I'm more impressed with the results at Portsmouth and Man City especially considering we played away from home on both games and with 10 men for 70 minutes!!!!!

[LifeTimeYido]

Yeh - i agree as well - Keane shouldnt have started - 3 games out and the team has played well in those games - should have been a bench warmer.

[berbzy 'G']

Whenever we get a chance to score the winner in a match... It just never happens... It's just not meant too... I so badly wanted Spurs to atleast score an equaliser just to shut those fat red ****s up, waving there scarfs in the air, wiggling there hips like a bunch of ****ing bent queers...

That just sums up how luck has been on those ****s side all the way threw the season...

If there is a God... he certainly hates Tottenham...

[Spur]

First set-piece conceded with Ramos in charge IIRC.

Should've had a second pen. Keane and Berbatov both had mares today, neither got involved. Keane did three things all match, set-up Berbatov with the back heel, hit the bar and miss the pen, other than that he was invisible. Berbatov lost the ball so much i'm wondering who he's playing for. Did well to score from where he was though, but that was all he did.

Our first half was unreal, we were the better side and for that alone we deserved a point. Their first goal no-one tracked Fabregas(?) run, I think O'Hara was in the middle with Kaboul there too, and neither picked him up the outcome of which equalled Goal. The second, well we all saw it, Hudd ran into the other bloke, a prime example of why you need players inside the box picking up a zone rather than everyone on a man.

Lennon never got out of Clichy's pocket, he's so far deep inside it he's gonna take all week to get out.

O'Hara did well, Huddlestone came on and looked alot more mobile. Defoe came on and had no effect, personally I wanted him to start ahead of Robbie. Boateng had a good first half. Chim and Kaboul done their job, Lee had a bad match but on the other flank Teemu did well. Only one point against him was when he jumped into the tackle - oh and getting booked for what he got booked for and Styles didn't give Toure a booking for diving through the air in his own box...!?!? Go figure.

We had nothing up front, we got lost when near their box, we need players with flair, who will run with the ball and move without it, that's the way Ramos wants us playing, but with the current bunch many are being found out trying to play it.

I wasn't expecting a win today, but what can you say? At least we show more heart and effort than in previous attempts in previous years. We meet again another two times this season, let's hope the outcomes are different.

Only Ramos' second loss since he started, and we carry on performing.

[denis-cro]

How the **** is possible that our two best penalty takers misses one at crucial point of the game ??? Defoe vs West Ham, and Keano today ??? Still not belive what happened today :(

[Keanoldinho]

ffs we were so close that pen changed the game ffs Berba never looked up for it after that but on the bright side O'Hara continued his outstanding form and Taara came on and beat more men in 10 minutes than Lennon did in 90 that kid deserves a start.

[jrio]

Aye I agree there but he just seemed to do it a lot more today. Also people used to say the same thing about Hoddle.

He just gave up after we went 2-1 down. I can see his point - blinding finish to equalise and won the penalty that should have guaranteed at least a point - and we still lose. But Hoddle never did that. Hoddle was criticised for not running round like a headless chicken but what he did was let the ball do the work, and he was always in the game until the last minute.

[MACCSPURS]

totally agree, why change the team, keane didnt even touch the ball 1st half, and just about touched the ball 3times in 74mins, cost us big time,

and to those who think this guy is world class, there is the proof, world class players influence games.

keane is a good player, but not in the top bracket of strikers in england,
much less the world, it showed today .. he rants far too much, and never touched the ball in the 1st half,

what a chance we had to win or get somthing outa the game.

he looked powder puff againt arse defenders, as he has no pace.

credit due for the back heel for our goal,

but before that he missed another sitter,

i no som of you guys will say it wasnt a sitter, but i think ull find to most top strikers they wud of easily put that in.

Keane scores goals time and time and time again and has won matches for us single handedly.

He did not miss the penalty, it was saved.

...and this is enough for you to start saying he is not that good.

Have you even seen Spurs play? I'm just curious...

[shakey18]

I think the fact we are all gutted we didn't get something from the game, after putting out an injury ravished team says it all.

[Keanoldinho]

First set-piece conceded with Ramos in charge IIRC.

Should've had a second pen. Keane and Berbatov both had mares today, neither got involved. Keane did three things all match, set-up Berbatov with the back heel, hit the bar and miss the pen, other than that he was invisible. Berbatov lost the ball so much i'm wondering who he's playing for. Did well to score from where he was though, but that was all he did.

Our first half was unreal, we were the better side and for that alone we deserved a point. Their first goal no-one tracked Fabregas(?) run, I think O'Hara was in the middle with Kaboul there too, and neither picked him up the outcome of which equalled Goal. The second, well we all saw it, Hudd ran into the other bloke, a prime example of why you need players inside the box picking up a zone rather than everyone on a man.

Lennon never got out of Clichy's pocket, he's so far deep inside it he's gonna take all week to get out.

O'Hara did well, Huddlestone came on and looked alot more mobile. Defoe came on and had no effect, personally I wanted him to start ahead of Robbie. Boateng had a good first half. Chim and Kaboul done their job, Lee had a bad match but on the other flank Teemu did well. Only one point against him was when he jumped into the tackle - oh and getting booked for what he got booked for and Styles didn't give Toure a booking for diving through the air in his own box...!?!? Go figure.

We had nothing up front, we got lost when near their box, we need players with flair, who will run with the ball and move without it, that's the way Ramos wants us playing, but with the current bunch many are being found out trying to play it.

I wasn't expecting a win today, but what can you say? At least we show more heart and effort than in previous attempts in previous years. We meet again another two times this season, let's hope the outcomes are different.

Only Ramos' second loss since he started, and we carry on performing.


You forgot Bianchi for City but still impressive only the 2nd in 12 games

[Spur]

Simple fact is, regardless of Andy Gray keep saying that Arsenal were poor today, I actually think a lot of that was to do with us. Under Ramos, even with the injuries there are so many positives.

It wasn't us playing well in the first half you know...it was Arsenal playing poor :mad:

The bloke is a knob end of. He's such a ****, his tongue was up their for the whole game.

We played well today and bossed the game for long periods, we came in the half with 60% possession, do any teams do that against Arsenal? Let alone at Ashburton!

[MACCSPURS]

I think everyone should be a whole lot more positive. Stop moaning about things that can simply happen in football. The penalties for Keane and Defoe were not missed, they were SAVED! That is not the strikers fault!

Also, we have improved and getting better and better!

Before Ramos, we did have a ton of stuff to moan about but now we are improving there is little point moaning about still things.

You'll enjoy your football and lot more if you look on the bright side because right now the positives far outweigh the negatives.

[Spur]

You forgot Bianchi for City but still impressive only the 2nd in 12 games

Of course, both subs as well...

Was Bianchi's his first touch as well?

[shakey18]

ffs we were so close that pen changed the game ffs Berba never looked up for it after that but on the bright side O'Hara continued his outstanding form and Taara came on and beat more men in 10 minutes than Lennon did in 90 that kid deserves a start.

Agree mate.Taara should start the next game ahead of Lennon.

[jrio]

First set-piece conceded with Ramos in charge IIRC.
Second. EDIT: Keano just got it right when he said City.

Lennon never got out of Clichy's pocket, he's so far deep inside it he's gonna take all week to get out.
I think he's taking him home. :o
Excellent summary of the game. I thought it was a very marked contrast to our games against them last season. I can see no way that we will beaten in the CC. :o

[Apples]

Keano did have a bad game I agree! Thought Berbs was class and even with Keanes record Berbs should be our penalty taker from now on! Bad penalty from Robbie and awful chance missed when hit the bar!

Taraabt looks once again a class act even made Fabregas look stupid!

O'hara nice talent!

STOP RAVING ON ABOUT ARSENAL ALL THOSE WANKING PUNDITS DID THE SAME BEFORE THE GAME! LOOK AT THERE SIDE IT AINT THAT ****ING GOOD!

Least I know for certain that we're going Wembley ****ing shame I wont be able to be there!

[jrio]

He did not miss the penalty, it was saved.


Relied on his pause to make Almunia commit himself. He didn't and made the save look fairly easy.

[Spur]

I watched the game with my brother and a friend, my brother said at the time of the sub "Oh it's only Bendtner, shocking player" to which I replied "famous last words".

I then said to my friend "your not supposed to sub players when defending corners are you?"

:o :o :o :o

[berbzy 'G']

What on Earth do we need to do to overcome this ****ing horrible feeling everytime we lose against them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MACCSPURS]

Relied on his pause to make Almunia commit himself. He didn't and made the save look fairly easy.

It doesn't matter if he put a party hat on and did a jig before stepping up to take the shot. When it is on target and the keeper saves it, it's just that.....a SAVE!

I've seen Keano take enough penalties and it is impossible to score every single time. That's football for you.

[Apples]

It doesn't matter if he put a party hat on and did a jig before stepping up to take the shot. When it is on target and the keeper saves it, it's just that.....a SAVE!

I've seen Keano take enough penalties and it is impossible to score every single time. That's football for you.

An EASY one though! BAD PENALTY

[jrio]

i no som of you guys will say it wasnt a sitter, but i think ull find to most top strikers they wud of easily put that in.

Not a sitter(it was in the air) but he's in space and has to hit the target. That's been my main complaint about Keane - against the best sides his finishing lacks that ruthless edge that delivers the points.

[Keanoldinho]

Relied on his pause to make Almunia commit himself. He didn't and made the save look fairly easy.



I ****ing hate low penos it was just like Defoes vs the spammers. I don't know for the life of me why he didn't put it in the ****ing top corner like he did against lemon afew seasons ago ffs I'm gutted that woulda changed the game we coulda shored up the back and won if he had of put that in.:(

[MACCSPURS]

An EASY one though! BAD PENALTY

Any penalty that is not scored is a bad one. If Keano had put it in the top corner and it was saved it's still a save.

I've seen penalties taken that were piss poor and scored.

Get over it, Keano has scored so many times you can't slam him for one miss.

What's wrong with you people. Be realistic!!

[jrio]

We played well today and bossed the game for long periods, we came in the half with 60% possession, do any teams do that against Arsenal? Let alone at Ashburton!

60%? Highly impressive. Especially considering our boys had played with 10 for most of the game during the week, and their's hadn't played at all

[jrio]

I watched the game with my brother and a friend, my brother said at the time of the sub "Oh it's only Bendtner, shocking player" to which I replied "famous last words".

I then said to my friend "your not supposed to sub players when defending corners are you?"

But they weren't defending, were they? It often pays to sub on a striker when you've got a corner, especially if you've only been playing with one main striker, since there's a great chance he won't be picked up.

Your brother does sound very ignorant on Bendtner. Brum were keen to sign him after his loan and he looked excellent against BB during the week.

[neilmcnab]

thats y spurs are viewd as fickle mate keane never missed the penalty indeed, and i bet ive been to mor games than u ever will, he missed the pen and he missed a sitter moments before he aint aggressive enuf mate,
i never said he was rubbish, just not clinical, he is our striker, and didnt look ay all dangerous

yeah he.ll score againt mediocre teams, but when the oponents are good he barely makes a mark

keane has started all our games up til his suspension, and we were in 17/18th position, doesnt breath fear into you does it,
open your eyes and see the light

he needs to be more agressive and play off last defender shoulder,

[jrio]

It doesn't matter if he put a party hat on and did a jig before stepping up to take the shot. When it is on target and the keeper saves it, it's just that.....a SAVE!

It just isn't enough to hit the target. Anyone can do that without any pace to beat the keeper. Enough England players have done the same in our shoot-outs. It was a very high pressure situation and Keane was unable to cope with it. After his earlier miss, I wasn't filled with confidence. Given
our history against Wenger's Arse, it looked a likely one to miss.

[neilmcnab]

with berba and keane up top we have no pace no aggression,

defoe dont offer alot more, i do think senor ramos will see this as ultimetly our weakness,

he used to have kanoute, who many on here dont rate, but pound for pound, he eclipses our strikers hands down, always scores and has a presence

composed and aggressive. always looking to score,

[Keanoldinho]

Any penalty that is not scored is a bad one. If Keano had put it in the top corner and it was saved it's still a save.

I've seen penalties taken that were piss poor and scored.

Get over it, Keano has scored so many times you can't slam him for one miss.

What's wrong with you people. Be realistic!!



If you hit a peno with power in the top corner it's impossible to save like the one he scored 2 seasons ago in the last minute against lemon no keeper in the world can save those type of penos you just gotta make sure you keep it under the crossbar.

[jrio]

Any penalty that is not scored is a bad one. If Keano had put it in the top corner and it was saved it's still a save.

I've seen penalties taken that were piss poor and scored.

Get over it, Keano has scored so many times you can't slam him for one miss.

What's wrong with you people. Be realistic!!
It's a crushing disappointment. After playing so confidently, going behind, getting a spectacular equaliser, and then being on the verge of taking the lead, and stuffing it to the Arse.....

Berb seemed to feel as we did.

[Spur]

But they weren't defending, were they? It often pays to sub on a striker when you've got a corner, especially if you've only been playing with one main striker, since there's a great chance he won't be picked up.

Your brother does sound very ignorant on Bendtner. Brum were keen to sign him after his loan and he looked excellent against BB during the week.

We made a change at the same time.

[Keanoldinho]

It's a crushing disappointment. After playing so confidently, going behind, getting a spectacular equaliser, and then being on the verge of taking the lead, and stuffing it to the Arse.....

Berb seemed to feel as we did.


After the peno miss he seemed gutted too. We deserved more Lennon was a big dissappointment he got 1 good cross in at the beginning then faded fast

[Keanoldinho]

Of course, both subs as well...

Was Bianchi's his first touch as well?



I don't think so he'd been on for about 15 minutes and Kaboul was marking him on the corner but Bianchi got the better of him and it was a perfect corner by Petrov.

[berbzy 'G']

We might aswell consider oursleves out of the Carling cup now... Spurs just can't beat Arsenal and never will untill we sign players that know how to defend...

Lets hope we sign atleast 2 defenders in January before going to the Emirates...

[jrio]

We made a change at the same time.
You're right. I thought it was just after. Still, Defoe for Keane wouldn't have affected the marking.

[denis-cro]

I don't think so he'd been on for about 15 minutes and Kaboul was marking him on the corner but Bianchi got the better of him and it was a perfect corner by Petrov.
Bianchi´ s goal was Bent´s error...

[neilmcnab]

as a team we played really well, we were to powder puff upfront, and they are our 2 most experienced players

THE PERFORMANCE THO WAS SATISFYING,

we have the manager with the right tactics now its time to get the right combination of players to compliment the coaches visions,

senor ramos wud of learned a lot, and he likes pace so we can expect to see some crucial changes in the new year, either jan or close season,

think were in for a few surprises,
as senor ramos is not a loser, and loves agressive fast play/players

[Keanoldinho]

as a team we played really well, we were to powder puff upfront, and they are our 2 most experienced players

THE PERFORMANCE THO WAS SATISFYING,

we have the manager with the right tactics now its time to get the right combination of players to compliment the coaches visions,

senor ramos wud of learned a lot, and he likes pace so we can expect to see some crucial changes in the new year, either jan or close season,

think were in for a few surprises,
as senor ramos is not a loser, and loves agressive fast play/players


what exactly does that mean?

[jrio]

I don't think so he'd been on for about 15 minutes and Kaboul was marking him on the corner but Bianchi got the better of him and it was a perfect corner by Petrov.
Think Spur is right, Keano. Goal scored in 61 mins by Bianchi. He certainly didn't come on at ht and I seem to remember the commentator saying it was his first touch(and I think his first goal for City).

[Keanoldinho]

Think Spur is right, Keano. Goal scored in 61 mins by Bianchi. He certainly didn't come on at ht and I seem to remember the commentator saying it was his first touch(and I think his first goal for City).


He might be right I was wrong about Kaboul too it was Bent marking him as denis pointed out

[matthius23]

We might aswell consider oursleves out of the Carling cup now... Spurs just can't beat Arsenal and never will untill we sign players that know how to defend...


Gimme a frickin break will ya?!?! Are you serious??

[neilmcnab]

End Of The Day Well Proud Of Our Players Today....

Even Tho The Result Cud Have Been More To Our Favor..thats The Way We Shud Be Playing,

Also I Think Carling Cup Is Gona Be A Real Chance For Us, As Senor Ramos Has Instilled A Winning Mentality...

Its Up To The Players To Carry It Thru, Instead Of Always Having Excuses,

Beleive Me Ramos Wont Have It, He A Top Top Manager And A Top Top Coach, Com On U Spurs,

[berbzy 'G']

Gimme a frickin break will ya?!?! Are you serious??

Yeah!!!!

Our defenders only seem to defend well when it suits them... Bendtners goal for example, I didn't even see any of players jump for it as it came inn... We even had Huddlestone who's a midfielder covering Bendtner before he scored, Shouldn't a defender be marking him instead for ****s sake?

Our defence is so poor, that even the midfielders are having to come in and help...

[jrio]

Gimme a frickin break will ya?!?! Are you serious??
He is, but he's 15 and has the analytical abilities to match. :o

[berbzy 'G']

He is, but he's 15 and has the analytical abilities to match. :o


ok, i'm 16, But how on Earth did you know that?????? :confused:

[Spur]

ok, i'm 16, But how on Earth did you know that?????? :confused:

You've just opened yourself up!

Where's the covering eyes smiley!?

[berbzy 'G']

You've just opened yourself up!

Where's the covering eyes smiley!?

We'll I'm not really fussed about it anyway tbh?

[Spur]

We'll I'm not really fussed about it anyway tbh?

Is that a question at me???

Or is that your love for the ??? button again???

[berbzy 'G']

Is that a question at me???

Or is that your love for the ??? button again???


It was Rhetorical :)

[SurreySpur]

On a serious note, as much as I always want Tottenham to win with Arsenals current form this was always going to be a hard result. I was expecting us to lose but I wanted to see how we performed.

Simple fact is, regardless of Andy Gray keep saying that Arsenal were poor today, I actually think a lot of that was to do with us. Under Ramos, even with the injuries there are so many positives.

If we had scored the penatly, probably would have changed the game and we would have won but it is what it is and we lost. However, there is no way under Jol we would have played the way we did today. We don't even have a proper back four and today we defended like a team.

The Ramos impact is clear for all those who know anything about football to see.

Look on the bright side guys, I wanted Arsenal in the Carling cup semi because I think we can do them and with a couple of players back and the away leg first up I think this could be us in the final.

Well Said MACC

[jrio]

ok, i'm 16, But how on Earth did you know that?????? :confused:
You really do have the memory of a goldfish. You posted it in a reply several months ago, probably when I was calling you a moron. :confused:

[berbzy 'G']

You really do have the memory of a goldfish. You posted it in a reply several months ago, probably when I was calling you a moron. :confused:

oh well then I must of done... Well it's abit stupid to argue over

[neilmcnab]

Imean our strikers ere a bit lite weight today no aggression and between the 2 no pace, well not enuf to beat any of arse back line,

anytime adebayor stretched his legs he was away, or cesc or hleb, for that matter, and their not blessd with great pace but they attack the space.

we did outplay them for periods of the game, but looked inept in their last 3rd, composed but werent getting past their defence,

our forwards need to be more aggressive, in final 3rd, to unease them,

[RuFuS]

We might aswell consider oursleves out of the Carling cup now... Spurs just can't beat Arsenal and never will ..



GET A BACKBONE BERBS

[peterc]

I thought that we were unlucky not to win today, it sure was not keano's day today, the only player I thought was below par was Steed Malbranque, however, looks encouraging and I would like to see what damage we can do with our full squad available.

[gazzaG8]

We should have won today, we played exceptionaly well for the side we put out. I saw the team & thought the worst, but apart from poor marking at a set piece & a lapse in concentration we matched them all over the field.
Apart from the fact it was the scum i'm not pissed off with that performance.

[denis-cro]

Ramos and co. should now forget this NLD match and try to concentrate for our next two home matches vs Foolham ( wednesday) , and Royals ( saturday ) which are vital for us considering being very near relegation zone... just hope this disappointing result ( not performance ) vs scum don´t affect us vs Foolham... :( COYS !!!

[shakey18]

I like the fact that we look so much more organised in the last 3 games.It's noticable that when we lose the ball, we have the 2 banks of 4 protecting Robbos goal.The goals from distance we were conceeding should be greatly reduced with such organisation.

[gazzaG8]

I still think we'll beat them in the CC

[Milney yid]

Do you ever get the feeling 'why do I bother?' Why put myself through all that drama again, when it's so obvious that in the end we'll lose. I can't help thinking sometimes we are the most unlucky team in the world. 9 times out of 10 Keane would have scored that pen, yet because it's against Arsenal, the team we havn't beaten since 1999, he misses. I've lost count of the number of times we should have stuffed the ****s, yet end up losing or drawing. I'm sure it will be the same in the Carling Cup, we get ourselves hyped up for it, play well yet end up heartbroken again. I couldn't fault our performance today, overall it was fantastic. Yet you get the feeling that it's gonna be a long time until we finally beat Arsenal again.

[shakey18]

Do you ever get the feeling 'why do I bother?' Why put myself through all that drama again, when it's so obvious that in the end we'll lose. I can't help thinking sometimes we are the most unlucky team in the world. 9 times out of 10 Keane would have scored that pen, yet because it's against Arsenal, the team we havn't beaten since 1999, he misses. I've lost count of the number of times we should have stuffed the ****s, yet end up losing or drawing. I'm sure it will be the same in the Carling Cup, we get ourselves hyped up for it, play well yet end up heartbroken again. I couldn't fault our performance today, overall it was fantastic. Yet you get the feeling that it's gonna be a long time until we finally beat Arsenal again.

The thing is mate i don't.We put out a team devoid of up to 6 first team regulars, the majority of which were in defence.We also were without our best attacking midfielder in JJ, who has improved greatly under Ramos.We were going to the Emer-shits with all that, and STILL should have got something from a team who had a first choice squad to choose from.My confidence in our team has risen greatly in the last few games.We will win the semi, and reach Wembley.Keep the faith, because this manager we have is WORLD CLASS and WILL make a difference.

[Milney yid]

The thing is mate i don't.We put out a team devoid of up to 6 first team regulars, the majority of which were in defence.We also were without our best attacking midfielder in JJ, who has improved greatly under Ramos.We were going to the Emer-shits with all that, and STILL should have got something from a team who had a first choice squad to choose from.My confidence in our team has risen greatly in the last few games.We will win the semi, and reach Wembley.Keep the faith, because this manager we have is WORLD CLASS and WILL make a difference.

I take your points mate, and agree that we are DEFINATELY improving greatly under Ramos, yet sometimes it just seems like this club has absolutely no luck whatsoever. We always seem to play so well against Arsenal, and deserve at least a point, yet it appears to me we really lack a killer touch, and that when the big chances come, e.g. the Keane crossbar and penalty, we are almost too scared to take them. Against a team outside the top 4 Keano would have buried them every time, but sometimes it appears to me the big occasion is too much for us, and the record of not beating a top 4 team away for something like 57 matches says it all. I just hope Ramos can improve this, and fast.

[shakey18]

I take your points mate, and agree that we are DEFINATELY improving greatly under Ramos, yet sometimes it just seems like this club has absolutely no luck whatsoever. We always seem to play so well against Arsenal, and deserve at least a point, yet it appears to me we really lack a killer touch, and that when the big chances come, e.g. the Keane crossbar and penalty, we are almost too scared to take them. Against a team outside the top 4 Keano would have buried them every time, but sometimes it appears to me the big occasion is too much for us, and the record of not beating a top 4 team away for something like 57 matches says it all. I just hope Ramos can improve this, and fast.

I think our performances against the top 4 will improve.Let's be honest, we all went into todays game expecting nothing.A full strength team, along with a few signings will make us a ****in top team.The futures bright, the future is Ramos.(yes i'm drinking!!).

[berbzy 'G']

Do you ever get the feeling 'why do I bother?' Why put myself through all that drama again, when it's so obvious that in the end we'll lose. I can't help thinking sometimes we are the most unlucky team in the world. 9 times out of 10 Keane would have scored that pen, yet because it's against Arsenal, the team we havn't beaten since 1999, he misses. I've lost count of the number of times we should have stuffed the ****s, yet end up losing or drawing. I'm sure it will be the same in the Carling Cup, we get ourselves hyped up for it, play well yet end up heartbroken again. I couldn't fault our performance today, overall it was fantastic. Yet you get the feeling that it's gonna be a long time until we finally beat Arsenal again.

Well said mate... thats proberbly what will happen in the carling cup...

[shakey18]

Well said mate... thats proberbly what will happen in the carling cup...

Like **** it will

[berbzy 'G']

Does anyone know when tickets go on sale for the second leg against the scum?

[jrio]

I think our performances against the top 4 will improve.Let's be honest, we all went into todays game expecting nothing.A full strength team, along with a few signings will make us a ****in top team.The futures bright, the future is Ramos.(yes i'm drinking!!).

Yet you are right. The future is most definitely Ramos, and it will be very bright. Once he has assembled his own team, we will all be shitting ourselves about how we can hang on to him when Madrid et al come calling.

Otherwise, I suggest we give GS a call and commit mass suicide. I understand drowning can be very relaxing once you bypass the initial choking sensation and surrender yourself to death.

[shakey18]

Yet you are right. The future is most definitely Ramos, and it will be very bright. Once he has assembled his own team, we will all be shitting ourselves about how we can hang on to him when Madrid et al come calling.

Otherwise, I suggest we give GS a call and commit mass suicide. I understand drowning can be very relaxing once you bypass the initial choking sensation and surrender yourself to death.

What a great sentence, very descriptive.Sounds like the closing line to a My Chemical Romance track!.

[TURKISH]

Im in total shock that the team we had out today performed like that! Jol would never dream of playing o'hara but look how good the lad done!

Passion was shown by all and if anything im proud and feel the furture looks good under Ramos and Poyet!

One more thing when defoe missed a penalty against weat ham he got abused on here, people saying keane wouldn't of missed it ect ect. So why no keane bashing today?

No daws
No jj
No king
No bale

And gave them a better game with a under strength team! LOL :cool:

[berbzy 'G']

Im in total shock that the team we had out today performed like that! Jol would never dream of playing o'hara but look how good the lad done!

Passion was shown by all and if anything im proud and feel the furture looks good under Ramos and Poyet!

One more thing when defoe missed a penalty against weat ham he got abused on here, people saying keane wouldn't of missed it ect ect. So why no keane bashing today?

No daws
No jj
No king
No bale

And gave them a better game with a under strength team! LOL :cool:


lol... Now that you said that, I can remember back against the West Ham everyone was slagging of Defoe for missing that penalty, then you said if that was Keane who missed the penalty then you'd all be saying he was unlucky... :rolleyes:

[TURKISH]

lol... Now that you said that, I can remember back against the West Ham everyone was slagging of Defoe for missing that penalty, then you said if that was Keane who missed the penalty then you'd all be saying he was unlucky... :rolleyes:

And no one believes me when i say this sort of stuff happens!

When keane misses a penalty its "ahh unlucky" But when its defoe "hes ****ing shit, keano would of scored"!

Shame i see this all the time but know one ever see's it.:(

[shakey18]

And no one believes me when i say this sort of stuff happens!

When keane misses a penalty its "ahh unlucky" But when its defoe "hes ****ing shit, keano would of scored"!

Shame i see this all the time but know one ever see's it.:(

The worst thing is i just KNEW both were gonna be missed....

[berbzy 'G']

And no one believes me when i say this sort of stuff happens!

When keane misses a penalty its "ahh unlucky" But when its defoe "hes ****ing shit, keano would of scored"!

Shame i see this all the time but know one ever see's it.:(

I did :)

Untill today!!! :@

[TURKISH]

The worst thing is i just KNEW both were gonna be missed....

I have no problem with players missing penaltys but i hate double standards, why should keane be treated different?

[shakey18]

I have no problem with players missing penaltys but i hate double standards, why should keane be treated different?

Agreed.I think at the time Defoe missed his, Keano was on fire.Not a decent excuse though...

[berbzy 'G']

Agreed.I think at the time Defoe missed his, Keano was on fire.Not a decent excuse though...

This was Keane's first match return since 3 games... Berbatov should of taken cause he already had a shot at goal, and has played fully in recent games too...

[shakey18]

This was Keane's first match return since 3 games... Berbatov should of taken cause he already had a shot at goal, and has played fully in recent games too...

Well if Keane is the designated penalty taker, is doesn't matter if he was out for 3 games, or 33.At the end of the day anyone can miss a pen, so lets move on because we have alot to look forward to under Ramos.

[wayne wonder]

Keano's our pen taker and he didn't score end of to be honest he shouldn't have been on the pitch its not fair he just walks back into the side no wonder defoe doesn't wanna sign and who can blame the kid.

On the actual pen i can remember the last time keano put the pen so low usually he hits them pretty high:confused:

[berbzy 'G']

Keano's our pen taker and he didn't score end of to be honest he shouldn't have been on the pitch its not fair he just walks back into the side no wonder defoe doesn't wanna sign and who can blame the kid.

On the actual pen i can remember the last time keano put the pen so low usually he hits them pretty high:confused:

If it weren't for the fans I think Defoe would of been gone ages ago...

[jrio]

What a great sentence, very descriptive.Sounds like the closing line to a My Chemical Romance track!.
Right, that's 2 of us signed up, GS is a certainty so 3. :D

[Keanoldinho]

Im in total shock that the team we had out today performed like that! Jol would never dream of playing o'hara but look how good the lad done!

Passion was shown by all and if anything im proud and feel the furture looks good under Ramos and Poyet!

One more thing when defoe missed a penalty against weat ham he got abused on here, people saying keane wouldn't of missed it ect ect. So why no keane bashing today?

No daws
No jj
No king
No bale

And gave them a better game with a under strength team! LOL :cool:


When Defoe missed his peno I said it was a shit peno and he should've went to the top corner with power and with Keano today I said the samething because I ****ing hate low hit penos. The peno Keane hit 2 seasons back against the scum in the last minute was perfect all penalties should be hit like that.

[shakey18]

Right, that's 2 of us signed up, GS is a certainty so 3. :D

Let's spread the word!!:)

[berbzy 'G']

Let's spread the word!!:)

huh? what word?

[RuFuS]

I couldn't fault our performance today, overall it was fantastic. Yet you get the feeling that it's gonna be a long time until we finally beat Arsenal again.

Well said mate... thats proberbly what will happen in the carling cup...

Does anyone know when tickets go on sale for the second leg against the scum?

Sorry Milney for including your quote but it gives a point of reference.

Berbs why do you care when the tickets go sale ?
We can't beat them.
We're never going to beat them so like in your other posts,
why bother turning up ?
In any case it's a mid week game and way past your bed time.

Stop being so F*CKIN negative. We have home advatage in the second leg. We spanked scum2 as i recall by five goals in a semi 2nd leg a few years ago and we hadn't beaten them for years. We can do it again.

[JuicE]

Well i saw the game on TV and thought that we played superbly considering that fact we have a new manager, an injury plagued team, a makeshift defence and it was an away game after all.
The only disappointment apart from the obvious loss and missed penalty...was Berby falling over too much and his negative body language. This guy has sublime skill but lacks motivation sometimes and he showed he can turn it on when he wants but too often he fell when he could have stayed on his feet and the knock in the face was bloody pathetic really.
Anyway, all in all a ****ing great display and a very unlucky result which just seems to be the same old story really doesn't it?
I really think we can salvage the season and most importantly build for next season.

Even Robbo played well!!!!!

I was disappointed to see Taraabt at the end hugging and laughing with the Scum players though. Turned my stomach a bit!

[singapore spur]

we lost for one reason only , DAVID FECKING PLEAT , i dont know if you guys had the same commentary team that i had , but when we got the penalty PLEAT was going on about how keane never misses , i was pulling my hair out screaming at the telly to shut the feck up but he just kept going on and on .
afterwards "woops" he said " maybe i should retire " , too fecking right mate , tossering old kerbcrawling feckwit , and all game he kept banging on about what a lovely stadium it was , great team etc etc arse are , shut the feck up .

anyway against the odds , good performance , cheered me up when i thought we were going to get stuffed , let down by an out of sorts keano , but i wont hold it against him .
the difference i saw in the sides was that arse always seemd to have a man free to pass to , that comes with them having a more fluid , comfortable on the ball , and confident team .
there are early signs of this with spurs under ramos , and we are definately going in the right direction .

viva ramos , and coys

[berbzy 'G']

Sorry Milney for including your quote but it gives a point of reference.

Berbs why do you care when the tickets go sale ?
We can't beat them.
We're never going to beat them so like in your other posts,
why bother turning up ?In any case it's a mid week game and way past your bed time.

Stop being so F*CKIN negative. We have home advatage in the second leg. We spanked scum2 as i recall by five goals in a semi 2nd leg a few years ago and we hadn't beaten them for years. We can do it again.

Who wouldn't want tickets to see Spurs v Arsenal... :eek:

[JuicE]

we lost for one reason only , DAVID FECKING PLEAT , i dont know if you guys had the same commentary team that i had , but when we got the penalty PLEAT was going on about how keane never misses , i was pulling my hair out screaming at the telly to shut the feck up but he just kept going on and on .
afterwards "woops" he said " maybe i should retire " , too fecking right mate , tossering old kerbcrawling feckwit , and all game he kept banging on about what a lovely stadium it was , great team etc etc arse are , shut the feck up .

anyway against the odds , good performance , cheered me up when i thought we were going to get stuffed , let down by an out of sorts keano , but i wont hold it against him .
the difference i saw in the sides was that arse always seemd to have a man free to pass to , that comes with them having a more fluid , comfortable on the ball , and confident team .
there are early signs of this with spurs under ramos , and we are definately going in the right direction .

viva ramos , and coys

I will certainly echo those exact sentiments. I too had to put up with that cretin and when he said "Keane NEVER misses" i thought.....you ****** stfu!

I also had to laugh when he gave a long explanation of why Tanio was substituted and he was still ****ing playing. What a retard he is. The co-commentator really must have felt like correcting him half the time.

How any player could respect him when he was managing is beyond me!

[MarlowSpurs]

Who wouldn't want tickets to see Spurs v Arsenal... :eek:

Liverpool fans???