Match Thread: Manchester City vs Tottenham Hotspur

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[\jackdaw]

Not an easy one this, Citeh's home record is very good.. unbeaten yet this season and ouraway form is pretty poor.

But in saying that our last two games have seen a real change in the team and games like this dont hold as much fear for me as a couple weeks ago.

Not sure of we will get a win but we wont lose .. 1-1 or 2-2

[Spur]

I think asking for two away victories on the bounce is asking for a little too much...!

Saying that though, the lads will be full of confidence and looking to capitalise on winning at the weekend.

Hard one to call, and I won't be having any money on it.

[peterc]

Not an easy one, but have gut feeling we will win this one 1-2, a last minute goal. COYS.

[mjbmedia]

I think asking for two away victories on the bounce is asking for a little too much...!


3 away wins on the trot would put us in Semis and have us beat Arsenal :D

nice early Xmas pressies

[Apples]

KEEP THE DEFENCE THE SAME AND WE WILL WIN!

Dawson has to be ****ed off now otherwise we'll keep shedding lots of goals! The bloke is clueless! Hopefully Ramos knows this!

[wayne wonder]

We've got a good record against city i think a 2-1 isn't beyond us

[spurs61]

I can't see us winning two back to back on the road, especially given Citeh's home record this season. TBH, I'm not overly fussed by this game, a win and progression to the next round would be nice but we need to focus on improving our league position by the begining of the New Year if we are to negate the shocking start to the season. An unbeaten Xmas campaign should see us up to 7 or 8 in the table by my calculation which would provide a good springboard for the rest of the season. Obviously Ramos would like to have a serious go at winning the UEFA and as Spurs we have to go in wholeheartedly for the FA Cup, so I wouldn't be devastated if we get knocked out tommorrow, it will relieve some pressure on our over streched squad.

Sorry for being defeatist, it's for the good of the team!:p

[mjbmedia]

think you need a new calculator then mate ;)

no way 7th or 8th even if we win all 4 xmas/new year matches , remember the other teams will be playing and getting points too .:)

[choda]

If we get to 7th by the new year we would have to win every game and hope a few teams have a horror time.

[spurs61]

If we get to 7th by the new year we would have to win every game and hope a few teams have a horror time.


Well? We've had a "horror time" (I like that phrase) so surely it's someone elses turn? There are always one or two teams who fall away over Xmas we just need to make sure we're chugging along in order to benefit from their fall. Sure it's slightly optimistic to win all of our games but it is the season of good cheer!

[jrio]

7 points adrift of Toon in 10th place and 12 of Pompey in 7th. So 3 wins and a draw, without any of the other teams playing, would only get us to 8th. Realistically 11th is the best we could hope for over the holiday period, especially looking at Toon's fixtures(Wigan and Derby, and City at home).

[berbzy 'G']

Very hard game to predict I think, although Man City have got 100% home record, I'm confident in all the team tomorow, just not Bent...

Hope TURKISH can predict that we are gonna lose, then Spurs will win :).. (like the Hatton and Mayweather prediction) ;)

[choda]

Well? We've had a "horror time" (I like that phrase) so surely it's someone elses turn? There are always one or two teams who fall away over Xmas we just need to make sure we're chugging along in order to benefit from their fall. Sure it's slightly optimistic to win all of our games but it is the season of good cheer!

If we concentrate on ourselves and keep performing I reckon we will ascend most of these sides by the end. I think 7th is a good possibility.

[Sparkystav]

Accordin to the City website Elano will definately be playing tomorrow night, not a good sign but i've got faith in the boys.

Stav

[irishspur]

ill stick with my lucky narrow win prediction for the third time running.:)

[Spur]

3 away wins on the trot would put us in Semis and have us beat Arsenal :D

nice early Xmas pressies

Can only dream!

One game at a time I think!

[wayne wonder]

anyone know if it's being streamed anywhere?? the pompey game was a shambles 35mins before i could even get onto it

[jrio]

19:45 PM ET Carling Cup: Manchester City vs. Tottenham Hotspur - GUANGDONG SPORTS Şop://broker.ŞopcaŞt.com:3912/6543

[MarlowSpurs]

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[SurreySpur]

Tottenham
01 Robinson
02 Chimbonda
04 Zokora
05 Kaboul
03 Lee
25 Lennon
08 Jenas
17 Boateng
15 Malbranque
09 Berbatov
18 Defoe
Substitutes
12 Cerny, 06 Tainio, 19 Taarabt, 22 Huddlestone, 24 O'Hara

Worrying that we have no third striker on the bench but i think this team has enough about it to win tonight.

[choda]

Taara could probably play up top as a loose cannon if necessary.

[choda]

Don't ask me for a prediction but I am looking forward to it. I feel we can win, but they are a very good side at home. 2-1 to spurs. Defoe and Lennon.

Lol, sometimes I hate one match predictions but I couldn't resist. By the way I hope we target Garrido, his positional play has been truly shocking.

[SCIFIN17YID]

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[MarlowSpurs]

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[SCIFIN17YID]

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[\jackdaw]

Get in there JD .. 1-0

[shakey18]

Geddin Jermain-Brilliant!

[MarlowSpurs]

****ing cmon

[SurreySpur]

Should have been 2 there!!

Steed should have taken that on himself

[\jackdaw]

Playing with a lot of confidence at the moment and Steed really should of got that pass off earlier to make it 2-0

[SurreySpur]

thats ****ing bullshit

Once again a shit ****ing ref decision goes against us

[\jackdaw]

WTF is that ref on ... disgraceful decision

[LifeTimeYido]

What a total ****

[MarlowSpurs]

what the **** just happened there

[\jackdaw]

Poor JD .. gets his chance to start.. makes a great contribution by scoring then has to be the one substituted .. will anything go right for him this season ...

[SurreySpur]

No need for the petulance from Defoe, yes he can be disapointed but gesticulating towards the manager isnt needed.

[shakey18]

A total ****in disgrace

[Spur]

I thought it was a red. Prick.

[mjbmedia]

WTF IS ROBBO DOING KICKING THE BALL OFF FOR THAT FOREIGN ****ING WRITHING ****, LET THE ****ING **** DIE , THEN CITY DIDNT LET US GET THE BALL BACK PROPERLY THE ****S, FCUKING KILL THE ****ING ****S I ****ING HATE THEM AND THEIR DRUG RIDDEN SHITTY ****ING FANS.

COME ON SPURS KILL THEM ON THE PTICH AND THEN KILL THEM OFF IT THE ****S:mad: :mad: :mad:

[shakey18]

What the **** was Steed doing?-That 1 was worse.

[MarlowSpurs]

Will we get a ref that knows what ****ing planet he's on let alone how to ref a football game!!!!!!

[LifeTimeYido]

As much as Zakora shouldnt have been sent off - surely steed should have walked ???

Shows he has got no clue

CUUUUNT!

[Ioang]

This time, I forgive Defoe's reaction. Shit decision, ruined the game, ruined Defoe's chance, hope it doesn't ruin OUR chance.

[MarlowSpurs]

WTF IS ROBBO DOING KICKING THE BALL OFF FOR THAT FOREIGN ****ING WRITHING ****, LET THE ****ING **** DIE , THEN CITY DIDNT LET US GET THE BALL BACK PROPERLY THE ****S, FCUKING KILL THE ****ING ****S I ****ING HATE THEM AND THEIR DRUG RIDDEN SHITTY ****ING FANS.

COME ON SPURS KILL THEM ON THE PTICH AND THEN KILL THEM OFF IT THE ****S:mad: :mad: :mad:

lmfao...............

[SurreySpur]

**** should have been two!! Good block tho

[shakey18]

Unlucky Berbs-C'Mon!

[Ioang]

Anyone reckon the FA will accept our appeal this time...?

[mjbmedia]

thing is Zoks out of the NLD unless we appeal, which we must cos he didnt touch Elano, who to be fair made nothing of it

[Spur]

I missed the Defoe thing, what exactly did he do?

And Steed should be gone as well. What are these lot playing at?

[SurreySpur]

What pisses me off is Steven Gerrard puts in tackles like Zokora's every ****ing game but when he does it its a show of commitment because he's a player with his heart on his sleeve, when Zokora does it its a dangerous tackle worthy of a red card!

Mark my words......Watch Liverpools next game and Gerrard will put in a two footed tackle and get away with it!!

[MarlowSpurs]

Anyone reckon the FA will accept our appeal this time...?


Not a ****ing chance

[shakey18]

Anyone reckon the FA will accept our appeal this time...?

No chance mate

[MarlowSpurs]

What pisses me off is Steven Gerrard puts in tackles like Zokora's every ****ing game but when he does it its a show of commitment because he's a player with his heart on his sleeve, when Zokora does it its a dangerous tackle worthy of a red card!

Mark my words......Watch Liverpools next game and Gerrard will put in a two footed tackle and get away with it!!

He's one of england's golden boys though..can't do a thing wrong.

[Ioang]

Love or hate him, he might have 1 game after his ban then he's ****ing off to africa, to play a in a competition that the ivory coast will surely go far in! Pah..

[mjbmedia]

He's one of england's golden boys though..can't do a thing wrong.
except leave his bitch alone in a big house to get burgled ;)

[shakey18]

Mark Lawrenson on Five Live"-It's a rank bad decision to send off Zokora."

[Spur]

What pisses me off is Steven Gerrard puts in tackles like Zokora's every ****ing game but when he does it its a show of commitment because he's a player with his heart on his sleeve, when Zokora does it its a dangerous tackle worthy of a red card!

Mark my words......Watch Liverpools next game and Gerrard will put in a two footed tackle and get away with it!!

I do see what your saying but I think that's a little different.

[shakey18]

Berbatov is ****in quality tonight.

[\jackdaw]

Mark Lawrenson on Five Live"-It's a rank bad decision to send off Zokora."

I know that ... you know that ... millions of Spurs fans around the world know that.. the only one that dosnt is that **** of a ref.

[SurreySpur]

I do see what your saying but I think that's a little different.

how so Spur?

[mjbmedia]

I do see what your saying but I think that's a little different.
why the **** is that different you ****ing prick?

[MarlowSpurs]

except leave his bitch alone in a big house to get burgled ;)

Didn't know that ,...........what a ****ing arse

[Spur]

I'm going to have to see the challenge again.

[Spur]

how so Spur?

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean in the challenge department, because in that sense your 100% right.

What I meant was the comparison of Zokora with Gerrard, and their heart and commitment. There just isn't one whatsoever.

[SurreySpur]

****ing hell the ref is giving us absolutley nothing......Well apart from a few cards.

[Spur]

why the **** is that different you ****ing prick?

Jog on.

Why not go and 'kill some Mancs' as you want the Yid's up north to do...!?!

[LifeTimeYido]

**** - you may wanna check the refs bank balance after this match - see if any deposits made from Man City inc !!!!

[SurreySpur]

And JJ looked onside!!

[shakey18]

We're being done over by the officials boys-that was level.

[london0998]

**** - you may wanna check the refs bank balance after this match - see if any deposits made from Man City inc !!!!

Just thinking the exact same thing. Jenas also clearly onside

[Spur]

That offside will need looking at again.

[MarlowSpurs]

I'm ****ing proud of our boys out there playing against 12 men

[shakey18]

Great work ethic, and teamwork, started brilliantly, then that **** Bennet spoilt the game.C'mon boys!!.

[mjbmedia]

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean in the challenge department, because in that sense your 100% right.

What I meant was the comparison of Zokora with Gerrard, and their heart and commitment. There just isn't one whatsoever.
ahhh in that case youre not a fecking prick ;) . . tho id question that when Gerrard has an England shirt on :p

[TURKISH]

Just about watchable on this link. Still worth it though, lads working hard and thats all you can ask for.

You lads are turning on each other over zokora's tackle! lol:p .

Not a red steed's was and now no zokora for 3 games!:mad:

Kaboul doing well! Keep it up sunshine!

[mjbmedia]

**** - you may wanna check the refs bank balance after this match - see if any deposits made from Man City inc !!!!
well funny but the Thai knobend who owns them has only been done for betting scandals what some 50 times :confused:

[TURKISH]

ahhh in that case youre not a fecking prick ;) . . tho id question that when Gerrard has an England shirt on :p

LOL leave spur alone can't you take it out on your misses?:p

But your spot on gerrard does them challenges week in week out and never gets ****ing booked!:mad:

[\jackdaw]

Its going to be hard now for the Spurs in the second half. Time to see how JR's new training regeime is coming on.

We lasted 25 mins of the first half with 10 men and had a couple good chances. If we can last then next 45 minutes I will be over the moon .. and tell the truth a little surprised.

City havnt lost at home yet this season and wont want to lose that record.

COYS

[Spur]

When we had 11 we were playing some great passing football. With 10 we're playing on the break and we are picking holes in their defence.

Can't say anything is bad right now, the boys are doing very well up there but holding on as they are, the way we are sitting back...i'm not sure we can do it for another 45, or 75 minutes...

[berbzy 'G']

This ref is compltetly against us the stupid ****!!!!... I'm suprised he allowed our goal ****ing idiot?

Hope Jermaine comes back on...

[SurreySpur]

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean in the challenge department, because in that sense your 100% right.

What I meant was the comparison of Zokora with Gerrard, and their heart and commitment. There just isn't one whatsoever.

I didnt mean they had the same level of commitment.

What i meant was Gerrard seems to get away with two footed lunges basically because he's Steven Gerrard and he desperatly wants to win, so an identical tackle by SG is overlooked because its merely his enthusiasm spilling over. whereas other players ie, zokora get sent off.

[mjbmedia]

Jog on.

Why not go and 'kill some Mancs' as you want the Yid's up north to do...!?!
no mate, its called passion (something you are so in awe of Gerrard for having but we're not allowed to???)
(and a certain amount of personal history regarding City fans)

id wager 60% of them up there now (certainly the nutty ones) are thinking along the same lines.

Zokora went in feet apart to the challenge, got the ball ages before he got near Elano,Elano didnt even move, if anyone was gonna get injured it would have been Zokora, the supporters overreacted and theyre just ****s anyway

[shakey18]

A city fan on the 606 message board has just posted "welcome to the steve bennet show".Even those ****ers can see what a **** he is.

[london0998]

Poor old Defoe. Just when he's thinking he'll get a chance to impress. Bangs in a goal after 5, then gets subbed

[SurreySpur]

Is anyone else feeling fairly confident?

I think Ramos will have a plan and we'll end up soaking up the pressure and hitting them on the break. A lot will depend on Berba being able to hold up the ball to relieve pressure on the back four.

[MarlowSpurs]

Can't say anything is bad right now, the boys are doing very well up there but holding on as they are, the way we are sitting back...i'm not sure we can do it for another 45, or 75 minutes...

Its certainly going to be a tough 45mins, how many yellows did we pick up the first half? The way the ref is I can see another red coming

[london0998]

Is anyone else feeling fairly confident?

I think Ramos will have a plan and we'll end up soaking up the pressure and hitting them on the break. A lot will depend on Berba being able to hold up the ball to relieve pressure on the back four.

I think we'll also see Marbranque holding the ball up. This along with a couple of quick runs from lennon could be key

[berbzy 'G']

we might need to get another goal... I can't see a clean sheet to be honest.:( hope i'm wrong...

[shakey18]

Is anyone else feeling fairly confident?

I think Ramos will have a plan and we'll end up soaking up the pressure and hitting them on the break. A lot will depend on Berba being able to hold up the ball to relieve pressure on the back four.

The way we played up until the sending off made me feel this game was ours for the taking.The boys seemed to have got some confidence from somewhere, and looked like the team who were challenging the top 4 this season.It's gonna be tough now but imagine what holding on would do for the confidence ahead of a visit to the filth.

[wayne wonder]

jj's gonna have to support berbs as much as possible

[mjbmedia]

need to get somone else up there with Berbs, id have left JD on and just put Jenas back to the RB position as City can now just leave 3 back and will pile pressure on us, and maybe then tainio for Boateng depending on how it went from there, anyway we will see.

[jrio]

Its certainly going to be a tough 45mins, how many yellows did we pick up the first half? The way the ref is I can see another red coming

3y and a red in the first half. I can't recall us ever recording figures like that in a first half

[Keanoldinho]

****n ell I missed the first 26 minutes but **** me the ref has been shit JJ was clearly onside and Berba was unlucky when his shot got blocked he's been cracker up top on his own. I missed the goal and the red card but this ****n ref is doing his best to be the center of attention. Glad we made it to half time fingers crossed we can win this one.

[Spur]

I didnt mean they had the same level of commitment.

What i meant was Gerrard seems to get away with two footed lunges basically because he's Steven Gerrard and he desperatly wants to win, so an identical tackle by SG is overlooked because its merely his enthusiasm spilling over. whereas other players ie, zokora get sent off.

Maybe. Think he gets away with the diving a little bit more though!

Talking of diving Jenas likes a little dive every now and then. Maybe it shows he has got a bit of intelligence because he picks when to do it rather than for doing it sake...

no mate, its called passion (something you are so in awe of Gerrard for having but we're not allowed to???)
(and a certain amount of personal history regarding City fans)

id wager 60% of them up there now (certainly the nutty ones) are thinking along the same lines.

Zokora went in feet apart to the challenge, got the ball ages before he got near Elano,Elano didnt even move, if anyone was gonna get injured it would have been Zokora, the supporters overreacted and theyre just ****s anyway

Who said we're not allowed to? Like I said I need to look at the Zokora challenge again, i'm watching on a dodgy feed but from the replay it looked like a red to me. Saying that Steed's was even worse so...

But back on subject, think Lennon and Berba will link up more than a few times this half, if we're going to score again i'm certain it will be through one of them creating for the other, or at least an steaming incoming Steed or Jenas.

[mjbmedia]

dont you love it when youre playing or watching footy and youve lost any respect for the ref and he tries to have a word and youre thinking ' yeh eff off you **** like you know what youre talking about ref, ta ta' :cool:

[shakey18]

Cheating little ****er Johnson

[shakey18]

Save Robbo!!

[LifeTimeYido]

What a ****in save Robbo !!!

[SurreySpur]

What a save from Robbo!!!

[MarlowSpurs]

**** what did I miss??

[Spur]

Think we will probably be seeing Robbo a bit busy this half as well!

If only we could score from set-pieces...where's Bale got to! What a time to have him injured!

[MarlowSpurs]

Come on boys 30mins to go

[berbzy 'G']

highlights on ITV 3 tonight...

[\jackdaw]

Chimbo needs to be careful, already booked and that was a deffo penalty.

[Spur]

Does anyone think we will do it?

[wayne wonder]

i cant take it im stressed :(

[\jackdaw]

I always think we will win ... till the final whistle goes.

The boys are putting City under pressure.. playing well with 10 men.

[Ioang]

Proud of the lad tonight. Especially Berbs and Robbo.

[SCIFIN17YID]

w000t O'Hara come's on !!!

[LifeTimeYido]

i cant take it im stressed :(

LOL - me too - real nervous atm !!

[Spur]

We are playing well. I'm impressed. Usually we buckle and give up. It's debatable right now who the better side actually is.

Lennon did well, not sure what's happening here then...

Berba is playing quality as well.

[MarlowSpurs]

My heart isn't going to take the final 20 mins..............................................

[berbzy 'G']

I'm hoping that we don't get tired after pushing all the way threw the second half then suddenly concede like we did against birmingham...

[\jackdaw]

15 mins to go and we are still holding on ..

and on another bright note Blackburn have equalized against the scum after being 2-0 down.

[MarlowSpurs]

Whatever happens I'm PROUD as **** of me boys out here tonight

[wayne wonder]

LOL - me too - real nervous atm !!

i cant breathe :eek:

[mjbmedia]

Berbs is a gent, yeh great, Richards is pissing him every time and Richards is very very easy to wind up yet Berbs not even trying, wind him up ,get free kicks from him kill the game

[Spur]

You right Marlow.

Can't fault the Spurs tonight. Top stuff. Every single one of them.

[mjbmedia]

Berbs aint doing well, hes only giving 80% the others are giving 120% lazy ****er

[MarlowSpurs]

**** My Heart

[LifeTimeYido]

Theres only one ROBBO !!! - great save again !!!

[shakey18]

Oh my ****in giddy aunt!

[SurreySpur]

That was ****ing close

[shakey18]

From the BBC site
It's exciting stuff at Eastlands. Martin Petrov crosses for Rolando Bianchi to get in a header which Spurs keeper Paul Robinson fumbles...but his blushes are saved as the ball is cleared off the line

Fumbles?-******

[berbzy 'G']

how painful

[MarlowSpurs]

what A ****ing Goal

[shakey18]

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
****in GET IN!!

[mjbmedia]

yesssss so thats on the pitch, now Eastlands aint as scary an area as Mossside so i still hope :mad:

[LifeTimeYido]

****in Get In There !!!!


Woooohoooo !!!!

[\jackdaw]

Get in there Steed.. ****ing brilliant...

[SurreySpur]

Yessssssssss Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[jrio]

Malbranque! O'hara again involved! TBH, we've had so many breaks and failed to test the keeper I felt it was never coming.

[mydadspants]

****ing get in there... Legendary performance from the boys.....COME ON YOU SPURS

[MarlowSpurs]

Take that Sven , home record beaten by the MIGHTY 10 MEN of SPURS

[larry]

just hope blackburn can do the business with arseanal

[Spur]

Don't see how you can say that MJB.

And that's two. Born from Dimi only giving 80%. Hope he can give 80% all the time...

O'Hara take a bow.

[SCIFIN17YID]

w000000000000000000000000000000000t !!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 men !!!!! and 2 - 0 get in there spurs !!! COYssssssssssss.

[SurreySpur]

Great Play by O'hara. Great awareness and a lovely ball.

[Keanoldinho]

un ****ling believable Jamie O'Hara with the wonder pass Malbranque witrh the ****ing finish my nerves are shot to bits

Juande ****ING Ramos!!!!!!!!!!! is the ****ing MAN!@!!!!!!!!!


****B ELL this is the best Tottenham team I've ever seen Ramos is a ****ing geniusn I love that BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ioang]

Berbatov has been regal tonight. Classy performance from all!

[LifeTimeYido]

just hope blackburn can do the business with arseanal

2-2 atm

Bburn just equalised

[\jackdaw]

He couldnt do it against Brazil in the quarter finals ...

He couldnt do it against Portugal in the quarter finals ...

Now he cant do it against the mighty Spurs in the quarter finals...

I dont think Sven likes quarter finals....

[SurreySpur]

I have to say that Teemu has been imense since he came on.

[berbzy 'G']

love It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[larry]

who wants another 1???

[MarlowSpurs]

Keanoldinho your right he is a ****ing genius.

[berbzy 'G']

now lets proper **** there home record up by not coneceding a goal....

[shakey18]

Well played Steed-brilliant-so proud of ALL of 'em.O'Hara looks a find too COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MarlowSpurs]

Berbs, that should have been three

[SCIFIN17YID]

un ****ling believable Jamie O'Hara with the wonder pass Malbranque witrh the ****ing finish my nerves are shot to bits

Juande ****ING Ramos!!!!!!!!!!! is the ****ing MAN!@!!!!!!!!!


****B ELL this is the best Tottenham team I've ever seen Ramos is a ****ing geniusn I love that BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well ****ing said mate !!!!

[SurreySpur]

Shit, i thought that was number 3.

[larry]

blackburn still holding scum 2-2

[mjbmedia]

Don't see how you can say that MJB.

And that's two. Born from Dimi only giving 80%. Hope he can give 80% all the time...

.
whoo hoo down to ten men you need ten men defending from the front back, Berbs has just stood there moaning when the balls gone awry, yes on the ball hes great when others have done the hard work to get it for him . Ok weve got away with it due to the others like i say giving that extra . perhaps im not easily impressed by lazy flash people ;)

[LifeTimeYido]

FUUUCK 4 mins !!! - where the **** has that come from ??!!

[shakey18]

I have to say that Teemu has been imense since he came on.

100% agree

[berbzy 'G']

Well played Steed-brilliant-so proud of ALL of 'em.O'Hara looks a find too COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HANDS OFF MILLWALL!!!

[Spur]

Top ****ing stuff.

I'm really impressed with the boys tonight. Top ****ing stuff.

[larry]

there it is well done boys!!!

[mjbmedia]

piece of piss this Ingese game of fottaball :p

[\jackdaw]

What a ****ing result, now way would I have thought we would of beaten them 2-0 away from home.

Robinson kept us in the game with 3 awesome saves, defence was immense, Defoe did what he does best by putting the ball in the net, Berbs was sublime with his touches and is looking as good as he was last year, O'Hara coming on and setting up another goal.

The whole team played out of their skins and as a team. I dont think there can be said too much about their fitness after this game everyone has given their all.

It's a good night to be a Spurs fan again tonight.

Now what can we do to get rid of this shite ref.

[Spur]

whoo hoo down to ten men you need ten men defending from the front back, Berbs has just stood there moaning when the balls gone awry, yes on the ball hes great when others have done the hard work to get it for him . Ok weve got away with it due to the others like i say giving that extra . perhaps im not easily impressed by lazy flash people ;)

Think your in the minority of one on this one MJB.

Everyone is raving about him on other boards as well.

One thread about him is called Berbs back - Spurs back. Maybe that sums it up actually.

[shakey18]

clean sheet, 2-0 win-****ing up citiys 100% record-PROUD AS ****-Now lets do the filth!
COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[LifeTimeYido]

MAG-THE-****-NIFICANT !!!

Awesome result !!

Ramos 2 - Sven 0 !!

COYS !!!!

[jrio]

whoo hoo down to ten men you need ten men defending from the front back, Berbs has just stood there moaning when the balls gone awry, yes on the ball hes great when others have done the hard work to get it for him . Ok weve got away with it due to the others like i say giving that extra . perhaps im not easily impressed by lazy flash people ;)

Fully agree with you on this and it was very noticeable in the second half. He also took too many touches on the ball too often when he had 4 or 5 defenders on him and had the chance to lay it off earlier. Against a side that was able to really up the pace of their game and attack us incessantly, we wouldn't have got away with it.

[MarlowSpurs]

Words cannot describe how ****ING PROUD I am of the boys tonight....

They look a completely different team, sod Mourinho RAMOS is the special one

[TURKISH]

****ing brilliant!

PASSION SHOWN BY ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KABOUL----------BRILLIANT! Deserve to have a good game!

O'hara fantastic!

The whole team shown what has been missing for the last year and a half!

JJ for man of the match!

But everyone was sensational!

ROBBO'S BACK!

COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

[wayne wonder]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

:d

[Ioang]

Havent seen Robinson that happy in a while either. 2 away games. 2 clean sheets. Brilliant.

[shakey18]

A quick shout for Kaboul too, what a recovery from the boy-Brilliant.

[MACCSPURS]

These kinda wins are really boosting the confidence and all those numpties who could not see the effect Ramos was having after just TWO games can eat my shorts. Just shows you how important fitness is at the highest level.

As much as I love the guy, no way would we have won that under Jol.

That O'Hara is looking a bit special.

[Spur]

Fully agree with you on this and it was very noticeable in the second half. He also took too many touches on the ball too often when he had 4 or 5 defenders on him and had the chance to lay it off earlier. Against a side that was able to really up the pace of their game and attack us incessantly, we wouldn't have got away with it.

Seriously?

He had no-one up with him to pass to! I'm shocked i'm thinking this performance was one of the better from him this season. If he lost the ball he'd fling his arms in the air the same way he did last week when he mis-controlled it!

[berbzy 'G']

I thought we were ****ed without Keane for the 3 match ban...

[mjbmedia]

Think your in the minority of one on this one MJB.

Everyone is raving about him on other boards as well.

One thread about him is called Berbs back - Spurs back. Maybe that sums it up actually.
maybe theyre are some ermmmm people i'll call them to keep it nice, that dont know what theyre talking about or are very easily pleased by the pretty pieces of football and dont notice the true workers

[matthius23]

Fan-bloody-tastic boys... listened to it on the radio and Mark Lawro admitted we outplayed City with our ten men.

What a great performance!!! Any highlights on TV tonite you know??

[SurreySpur]

Everyone of the lads deserves a lot of credit tonight. JJ and Boateng looked solid in CM although most of there work was done without the ball tonight, Teemu was excellent when he came on. Berba might not have covered as much ground as the others but his hold up play was vital in creating openings and easing the pressure on the back four.

I have to say its been a long time since ive been this proud of the lads.

[Spur]

maybe theyre are some ermmmm people i'll call them to keep it nice, that dont know what theyre talking about or are very easily pleased by the pretty pieces of football and dont notice the true workers

No that's not it.

I notice workers, Teemu was a worker tonight, Jenas was a worker tonight, Chimb and Kaboul were workers tonight, as was Berbatov up to pon his own holding the ball up, putting people through, rolling around on the floor when he had three players trying to knick the ball back off him.

I thought his performance tonight was not only pleasing in a football sense but a body language sense as well. He ran back and won the ball in his own half a few times, he shouted at others to get rid when he wasn't up top himself.

Thought he was very good.

[larry]

arsenaL DOWN to 10 men and looking at extra time!

[MarlowSpurs]

Fan-bloody-tastic boys... listened to it on the radio and Mark Lawro admitted we outplayed City with our ten men.

What a great performance!!! Any highlights on TV tonite you know??

ITV 1 at 11.05 I think

[wayne wonder]

**** singling out one player for praise all of them deserve the plaudits tonight fantastic team effort and spirit!1

ANYWAY COME ON BLACKBURN DO THE SCUM :mad:

[denis-cro]

ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED WITH SPURS´PERFORMANCE TONIGHT !!! credits to all players, especially O´Hara. This is SF story. I can´t belive that we have managed, with ten men, and with 3rd line-up beat the best team playing on home ground and ended up with clean sheet!!!! Absolutely brilliant stuff. Even Tainio looks like world-class player under Ramos !!! Tonight I´m ABSOLUTELY proud to be A Spurs fan. With Ćorluka playing for Citeh, and with expansion of Citeh fans here in Croatia, my Joy is even bigger !!!!! :D COYS !!!

[mjbmedia]

if anyones watching the arsenal game, Denilsons was a two footed challenge, notice the huge difference between that and Zokora

[jrio]

Seriously?

He had no-one up with him to pass to! I'm shocked i'm thinking this performance was one of the better from him this season. If he lost the ball he'd fling his arms in the air the same way he did last week when he mis-controlled it!
Seriously. Quite a few times he did have someone to pass to but elected to run across 4 or 5 defenders and lose possession. Did you notice that in the last 20 mins or so he continually made no effort to get back when he lost the ball?

[choda]

I think Berbs does look like he's getting back to form, but he was mixed today and a little lazy in holding it up. He worked harder at Fratton Park. Comments that spurs play when he does are misguided. The turn around has been a team effort of which he has less influential than many and hugely out classed this year generally by Keano.

[MarlowSpurs]

What are we going to be like when we have a fully fit squad???

[\jackdaw]

maybe theyre are some ermmmm people i'll call them to keep it nice, that dont know what theyre talking about or are very easily pleased by the pretty pieces of football and dont notice the true workers

Personally I think your wrong there matey, yes I will admit that at times he didnt challenge for the ball more when he could of, but when he had to do his job of holding up the ball to allow others to get up field or to waste time he did it well.

When he had the chance to try to make space for himself he did that well and left some of the City players in his wake.

Perhaps I was a little over the top earlier when I said he was back to his best but he had a very good game tonight doing what he had to.

[Ioang]

Bah, who gives a shit, Berbs - good or bad, doesn't matter, nice team* performance today, Robbo looked good, played as a team, clean sheet, semi-finals.

[mjbmedia]

i'm thinking this performance was one of the better from him this season.
yeh i agree with you totally there, but he still didnt work anywhere near as hard as the other 9 guys out there and he bloody well should off down to 10 men for that long , he should have been totally knackered

[mjbmedia]

is the draw tomorrow does anyone know?

[Keanoldinho]

I'm in total shock at a loss for words we've just been un****ing belieavable lately.

WTF has happenened to Kaboul the man has turned in to a defensive beast a total ****ing rock who doesn't put a foot wrong all game is it the same player from earlier on in thje season he's ****ing immense

BERBATOV WAS ****ING AMAZING let me type it again BERBATOV WAS ****ING AMAZING he must be shot to bits his hold up play off the ball movement and dribbling was amazing tonight. MJB he's not a robot the man did the work of 2 players tonight.

Malbranque is just deadly everytime he gets the ball he's liable to do something special and he took his goal like a true ****ing pro fessh on al cutting inside Dunne and flicking back round the keeper **** me I'm in heaven

O'Hara is a very special talent who's eye for a pass and range of passes are phenomenal also his commitment and fight are second to none

Boateng is everything we thought Zokora was when he first got here. The kid could well be our Essien. He does all the dirty work and gives JJ the freedom to get creative and go forward. The kid has great positional sense too he's dynamnite and will keep getting better.

Robbo is the best keeper in England right now he's been immense lately the 2 or 3 saves he made today were top draw absolute world class and win won the game because of his display. Credit were it's due he's lost us afew in the past but today he won it for us with quality saves at crucial times in the game.

JJ is ****ing quality you ******S:D :p

All in All with Ramos at the helm we're capable of beating anybody the man is a genius not just a tactical genius but a ****ing GENIUS bring on the scummy bastards we shalt not lose **** THE SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JuicE]

The Million Dollar qquestion is........Do we need Keano back or are we better without him? Huh! well? :rolleyes:

[choda]

That was a game Jol would never have won. We even have numerous references.

Now does anybody want to dispute the influence Ramos has had? He just had no luck against West Ham and Brum despite some lingering lapses. But we look to have cut those out and we are getting some more normal luck.

In fact we had awful luck tonight again but still won away to 100% City and kept another clean sheet!

[Spur]

Seriously. Quite a few times he did have someone to pass to but elected to run across 4 or 5 defenders and lose possession. Did you notice that in the last 20 mins or so he continually made no effort to get back when he lost the ball?

To be expected no?

You can't expect a player - even more so a striker playing up front on his own - to continually sprint after lost causes for 90 minutes surely...?

Especially to expect it from Berba. He's not a grit and steel player. Alan Smith would do it. But he's shit.

[Apples]

yeh i agree with you totally there, but he still didnt work anywhere near as hard as the other 9 guys out there and he bloody well should off down to 10 men for that long , he should have been totally knackered

Agree but thats not Berbatov's style and we know that. Sometimes when playin like that you need a player who can produce a special moment and if he's worked himself too hard he may not be in the position to do that! Looking forward to highlights now but what a win!

[irishspur]

berbs saves his energy for numerous moments of magic. what about that turn past dunne at the end where hart saved one on one!

[peterc]

Brilliant performance, my hat off to SENOR RAMOS, he is proving that he is the right man to take us further, I'm 100% certain now that he will take us to the glory days.

[choda]

The Million Dollar qquestion is........Do we need Keano back or are we better without him? Huh! well? :rolleyes:

Of course we are better with him, he has been terrific. He will help us to be even better, but we do have 4 top strikers.

Defoe looks like a top player again. ANOTHER ONE! It's time to go back to my list and tick some more boxes.

I told you lot this guy was unreal. I don't want anyone but Ramos.

[jrio]

To be expected no?

You can't expect a player - even more so a striker playing up front on his own - to continually sprint after lost causes for 90 minutes surely...?

Especially to expect it from Berba. He's not a grit and steel player. Alan Smith would do it. But he's shit.

No, but too often he lost it through being far too casual, sometimes twice within a few minutes. I can't see how the occasional sprint back would go amiss since, as you say, his game isn't based on running around and would still have the energy. I also felt we were far too wasteful with the breaks we had and didn't test the keeper, preferring to take another few touches or passes when the opportunity was there to force saves. The possession stats(65% with 10 men!)support this.

[Keanoldinho]

Berbatov did the work off 2 men tonight he was ****ing knackered. Everytime he got the ball he was holding it up like the world class player he is with Dunne and Richards all over him pushing and pulling him around. He was absolutely knackered. Nobody can run continuously for 90 minutes it's immpossible. When playing as a lone striker you have to play with your head more so than your heart or you'll fall over and die after about 65 - 70 minutes.

[choda]

Brilliant performance, my hat off to SENOR RAMOS, he is proving that he is the right man to take us further, I'm 100% certain now that he will take us to the glory days.

WHOOOHAH! Good man Peter!

[mjbmedia]

The Million Dollar qquestion is........Do we need Keano back or are we better without him? Huh! well? :rolleyes:
im thinking this is a serious question ,not just to wind one person up right??

Gotta be asked to be honest, three games out= our best three games of the season, is it coincidence? is it just Ramos taking effect? is it Keanes a crap captain?? btw who was captain without him i didnt even notice anyone whinging :p

id leave him on the bench and start with Berbs and Defoe on Saturday

[JuicE]

Brilliant performance, my hat off to SENOR RAMOS, he is proving that he is the right man to take us further, I'm 100% certain now that he will take us to the glory days.

Well Well, and that from you? Jol will be disappointed!

[larry]

shit scum gone 3-2 up

[wayne wonder]

Seriously what the ****s wrong with the scum do they never have bad luck ****ing tramos lol

[peterc]

WHOOOHAH! Good man Peter!

Well, it's the honest truth.

[JuicE]

im thinking this is a serious question ,not just to wind one person up right??

Gotta be asked to be honest, three games out= our best three games of the season, is it coincidence? is it just Ramos taking effect? is it Keanes a crap captain?? btw who was captain without him i didnt even notice anyone whinging :p

id leave him on the bench and start with Berbs and Defoe on Saturday

No wind ups! serious question as you say need asking.

[Sparkystav]

****ing Arsenal,

Though could be interesting semis Us vs the Scum, and maybe Everton vs Liverpool if they do chelsea?

What a performance tonight though, couldn't get a stream working and my nerves wouldnt let me listen to the second half.

Cant wait for the highlights later!

COYS!!!!!

Stav

[peterc]

Well Well, and that from you? Jol will be disappointed!

Thought you said that you would ignore my posts, must admit, I was happier that way.

[jrio]

Comparing Berb's performance tonight with the one against Bolton there is no comparison. Similar circumstances, although we were at home with the comfort of a 2 goal lead, yet then he was far more economical with the ball in that game. I also felt too often he was looking for a foul to be given tonight. Admittedly City were keen to bump and barge him, but throwing yourself down and looking plaintively at Bennett isn't going to win many concessions. (Arsenal just scored with 10 men - what's the chances of both NL sides winning in Lancashire with 10 men?).

[choda]

No, but too often he lost it through being far too casual, sometimes twice within a few minutes. I can't see how the occasional sprint back would go amiss since, as you say, his game isn't based on running around and would still have the energy. I also felt we were far too wasteful with the breaks we had and didn't test the keeper, preferring to take another few touches or passes when the opportunity was there to force saves. The possession stats(65% with 10 men!)support this.

I agree entirely. I thought he was a bit loose at times when he could have been more resolute to hold it up and allow us to support and gain territory.

[JuicE]

Thought you said that you would ignore my posts, must admit, I was happier that way.

I've discovered how amusing they are and when i need a real laugh i have a read. Any chance of you writing a novel or maybe your memoirs? Can't wait for the obituary!!!!! :)

[peterc]

I've discovered how amusing they are and when i need a real laugh i have a read. Any chance of you writing a novel or maybe your memoirs? Can't wait for the obituary!!!!! :)

hahaha. boring....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:ro lleyes:

[Keanoldinho]

The Million Dollar qquestion is........Do we need Keano back or are we better without him? Huh! well? :rolleyes:


Course we do imagine what we'll be playing like when Ramos can field our full strength team


Robbo
Chimbo Kaboul King Bale
Lenno JJ Boateng Malbranque
Keano Berby

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH I CAN'T ****ING WAIT

Ramos is a legend all ready top quality we need to put him on a lifetime contract till death do us part type shit he's that ****ing good loven it ****ing loven it:D

[mjbmedia]

watching the scum game, that Peter Brackley is the best commentator going

[mjbmedia]

Course we do imagine what we'll be playing like when Ramos can field our full strength team


Robbo
Chimbo Kaboul King Bale
Lenno JJ Boateng Malbranque
Keano Berby

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH I CAN'T ****ING WAIT

Ramos is a legend all ready top quality we need to put him on a lifetime contract till death do us part type shit he's that ****ing good loven it ****ing loven it:D
mate i love your posts :D

[Keanoldinho]

mate i love your posts :D



****N ELL I LOVE ALL YOU BASTARDS WE ARE TOTTENHAM WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM FROM THE LAAAAAAANNNNNEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

APPY ****ING DAYZ RAMOS IS BLOODY AMAZING I CAN'T ****ING WAIT FOR THE SCUM GAME WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THESE BASTARDS AT THEIR OWN SHITHOLE STADIUM

[Apples]

Course we do imagine what we'll be playing like when Ramos can field our full strength team


Robbo
Chimbo Kaboul King Bale
Lenno JJ Boateng Malbranque
Keano Berby

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH I CAN'T ****ING WAIT

Ramos is a legend all ready top quality we need to put him on a lifetime contract till death do us part type shit he's that ****ing good loven it ****ing loven it:D


Is Marbranque good enough now?
Also sometimes I worry that Keane drops off too much dont get me wrong Absolutely fantastic player and team player but when he plays do we rely on him too much coz he always wants to be the MAN to create something so we usually play through him too much?

[jrio]

Ramos is a legend all ready top quality we need to put him on a lifetime contract till death do us part type shit he's that ****ing good loven it ****ing loven it:D

Greatest achievement has been winning peterc's approval before Christmas.

Who'd have thunk that was possible? :eek:

Should make winning at Emirates on Saturday a piece of cake. :p

[Keanoldinho]

Is Marbranque good enough now?
Also sometimes I worry that Keane drops off too much dont get me wrong Absolutely fantastic player and team player but when he plays do we rely on him too much coz he always wants to be the MAN to create something so we usually play through him too much?


You're joking right Malbranque and Keano have been our best 2 players this season. Ramos has us playing as a unit and we will keep getting better and better. There is nothing to worry about no more as long as Ramos is here we will be challenging for honors every season. Top 4 beware we're coming for you bastards next season and we'll get top 7 this season too.

[choda]

im thinking this is a serious question ,not just to wind one person up right??

Gotta be asked to be honest, three games out= our best three games of the season, is it coincidence? is it just Ramos taking effect? is it Keanes a crap captain?? btw who was captain without him i didnt even notice anyone whinging :p

id leave him on the bench and start with Berbs and Defoe on Saturday

You talking about me? My opinion on Keane is well proven to be rational. I took a lot of stick on this forum even though I was right and have been proven so.

Just because the results have come it doesn't mean it was due to no Keane, it was despite it. Tonights was even despite not having 11 players.

I told you weeks ago the results would come because I could see the footwork and tactics improving hugely. It's the team and squad that has improved a great deal as a whole. Keane was our best player when we were shit and is the reason we still have a season. It would be madness not to play him and would hurt us over the long haul.

[mjbmedia]

**** the scum, jammy bastards, ,Samba scores V us in the last minute, hits post V Them in last minute :(

[suBerb]

Cheers, mates :D

I told you Spurs would be fools to miss the chance to appoint Ramos :D

Are there debates about Berbatov :D

[choda]

Is Marbranque good enough now?
Also sometimes I worry that Keane drops off too much dont get me wrong Absolutely fantastic player and team player but when he plays do we rely on him too much coz he always wants to be the MAN to create something so we usually play through him too much?

Absolutely, Mal is good enough now, he wasn't before.

And Keane doesn't drop off under Ramos unless Bent is going behind. You can't blame him for dropping off as that is what Jol asked him to do and we needed him to because it was about all we had going for us.

[choda]

Cheers, mates :D

I told you Spurs would be fools to miss the chance to appoint Ramos :D

Are there debates about Berbatov :D

Welcome back mate. :D

[suBerb]

Thanx, Choda!

I do hope Spurs will make a very strong team! Ramos is a class above Jol, to put it a bit mildly :D

[choda]

Course we do imagine what we'll be playing like when Ramos can field our full strength team


Robbo
Chimbo Kaboul King Bale
Lenno JJ Boateng Malbranque
Keano Berby

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH I CAN'T ****ING WAIT

Ramos is a legend all ready top quality we need to put him on a lifetime contract till death do us part type shit he's that ****ing good loven it ****ing loven it:D

That looks the best side currently for sure.

[Keanoldinho]

That looks the best side currently for sure.


I'm surprised you're agreeing with a caveman like me:D anyway I know I know what I'm talking about and that's all that matters;) :cool:

[choda]

I'm surprised you're agreeing with a caveman like me:D anyway I know I know what I'm talking about and that's all that matters

Yea you know you are talking about football, which is something I suppose. :p ;) :D

[Keanoldinho]

Yea you know you are talking about football, which is something I suppose. :p ;) :D


were's the good old middle finger smiley when you need him :D

[Ginola's Son]

Wow. That's three impressive wins on the trot. It puts paid to all my negativity. That I was right to express.

If Ramos pulls saturday off, I'm going gay and shagging him!!

[Sparkystav]

Does anyone know when the semi final draw is?

Stav

[spursmadnick06]

Does anyone know when the semi final draw is?

Stav


Live ok Sky straight after the Chelsea Liverpool game tommorow.

[SCIFIN17YID]

I think 10pm

[mjbmedia]

Wow. That's three impressive wins on the trot. It puts paid to all my negativity. That I was right to express.

If Ramos pulls saturday off, I'm going gay and shagging him!!
so just to check, if Ramos pulls Saturday off, you'll pull Ramos off?? :o

[MarlowSpurs]

so just to check, if Ramos pulls Saturday off, you'll pull Ramos off?? :o


LMFAO............Roll on saturday

[matthius23]

Having watched the highlights last night, I gotta say in hindsight, the thing that pissed me off most wasn't Zokoras ridiculous red card... it was the commentary teams lack of praise for the build up to our second goal! Berbs holds off 3 men just outside our box and plays a thru ball whilst falling over... O'Hara picks out Steeds run from all of 40 yards... Steed nutmegs Dunne and chips it with the outside of his right foot into the bottom corner. Brilliant.

Bravo lads... bravo. :D

[Apples]

Having watched the highlights last night, I gotta say in hindsight, the thing that pissed me off most wasn't Zokoras ridiculous red card... it was the commentary teams lack of praise for the build up to our second goal! Berbs holds off 3 men just outside our box and plays a thru ball whilst falling over... O'Hara picks out Steeds run from all of 40 yards... Steed nutmegs Dunne and chips it with the outside of his right foot into the bottom corner. Brilliant.

Bravo lads... bravo. :D

Yeah Berbatov was class for that goal well impressed! Great finish by Malbranque but do wonder where our left wingers left foot as times!!

[Ginola's Son]

so just to check, if Ramos pulls Saturday off, you'll pull Ramos off?? :o

Well, I said full sex. But if that's all I'm getting, I'm taking it.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Wow. That's three impressive wins on the trot. It puts paid to all my negativity. That I was right to express.

If Ramos pulls saturday off, I'm going gay and shagging him!!

Only cos your missus won't have anything to do with you for at least 48 hours if we win at the Emireshites. Personally, I'd say it's a fair trade, 48 hours of being ignored for a life time of great memories.

[MiloMinderbinder]

Comparing Berb's performance tonight with the one against Bolton there is no comparison. Similar circumstances, although we were at home with the comfort of a 2 goal lead, yet then he was far more economical with the ball in that game. I also felt too often he was looking for a foul to be given tonight.

Err slight differences in the circumstances in that we were at home vs Bolton and were two nil up when we went down to 10 men, I don;t think that's slight mate that's huge.

By charging around the pitch as the lone centre forward you are giving licence to at least two defenders to come forward with impunity. Berbas role after 20 mins last night was to give breathing space to the defence and midfield, which he achieved with something to spare. His job was not to track runners etc but make sure that City had something to worry about and we had a target to hit. A better perfomance away form home by a lone centre forward is hard to imagine.

[Ginola's Son]

Only cos your missus won't have anything to do with you for at least 48 hours if we win at the Emireshites. Personally, I'd say it's a fair trade, 48 hours of being ignored for a life time of great memories.

She's out of the picture anyway. She's going to the game and then on to a girls night out. She wants nowt to do with me on that day cos she knows what a foul embittered bastard I USUALLY am on it.

[jrio]

Err slight differences in the circumstances in that we were at home vs Bolton and were two nil up when we went down to 10 men, I don;t think that's slight mate that's huge.
It's not huge. You'd expect a far harder task against Allardyce's Bolton, a side that had often overwhelmed us, even in those circumstances, than Eriksson's City, a side that often struggles when it's behind and forced to attack.

By charging around the pitch as the lone centre forward you are giving licence to at least two defenders to come forward with impunity. Berbas role after 20 mins last night was to give breathing space to the defence and midfield, which he achieved with something to spare. His job was not to track runners etc but make sure that City had something to worry about and we had a target to hit. A better perfomance away form home by a lone centre forward is hard to imagine.
It's pretty easy to imagine. You're letting the result intoxicate your appraisal. I wasn't advocating "charging around the pitch", but there were instances when he'd lost the ball, and could have just made an effort to make the defender in possession hurry a bit more. There was a good example on the highlights yesterday. Having been dispossessed, Berb is about 10 yards from Richards, who is in the centre circle with the ball, yet he has no interest in putting any pressure on him and Richards has enough time to make a cup of tea before just moving the ball out to the right.

[choda]

I thought his hold up play and educated work rate was far better in Fratton Park than yesterday. I thought he was mixed yesterday, he had some quality moments but I thought he could have been more resolute in holding it up and linking things to make sure he was the springboard for us to push up and push city back in.

Instead he was lax at times when the the ball was played into him and lost possesion or didn't gain control. And he didn't have the same purpose off the ball as the others. That doesn't mean that he had to, as a lone striker, chase headlessly out the wings or even back past the half way line, but he could have put in a far better shift and pressed the defenders much more. I thought the performance was far more due a terrific effort behind him than anything Berba did. But at least he has stopped being a total prima donna.

[Keanoldinho]

I thought Berbatov was class yesterday. If you seen him after the game talking to Petrov he looked knackered like he had nothing left in the tank. Even the few times Richards won the ball off him you could see by how Berba was dribbling he was shot to bits and had very little energy left. This City team is far better than Bolton last year especially defensively with Corluka, Richards, and Dunne at the back.

Playing as a lone striker for 70+ minutes against the team with the best home record in the country this season I don't think there's much more you could ask of him he even played his part in the 2nd goal. Some peoples views on here makes you seem like you don't actually play football all you do is watch it.

[suBerb]

I didn't watch the game, so I cannot comment on Berba's performance. But someone posted at a Bulgarian forum the following quotes from comments of Man City fans. I think they speak volumes:


Quote:
I thought he was fantastic tonight, absolutely world class, he repeatedly made Dunney and Richards look like dummies.
Quote:
He was ****ing awesome tonight, he won the game for spurs, took the pressure of them all the time.
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best perfermance i have ever seen from an opposing player against city, world class!!!! he was the reason why they seemed to have so much more space than we did tonight, despite having ten men
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I actually wouldnt have minded him scoring at the end when he made us look like mugs again with his turn and shot. Fantastic performance, he took on about 6 players with 1 run in the first half. Always taking the pressure off them.

[choda]

I thought Berbatov was class yesterday. If you seen him after the game talking to Petrov he looked knackered like he had nothing left in the tank. Even the few times Richards won the ball off him you could see by how Berba was dribbling he was shot to bits and had very little energy left. This City team is far better than Bolton last year especially defensively with Corluka, Richards, and Dunne at the back.

Playing as a lone striker for 70+ minutes against the team with the best home record in the country this season I don't think there's much more you could ask of him he even played his part in the 2nd goal. Some peoples views on here makes you seem like you don't actually play football all you do is watch it.

You really need to grow up mate. When people disagree with you act like a neanderthal and often call people thick even though your not exactly a rocket scientist.

And I can assure you there are people on this website who if you went on the pitch with them would put you on your arse, go back and do it again. :p

Some people didn't think Berba was amazing or as good as Portsmouth, so what. The main thing is he is getting back to something like what he was last year.

[choda]

I didn't watch the game, so I cannot comment on Berba's performance. But someone posted at a Bulgarian forum the following quotes from comments of Man City fans. I think they speak volumes:


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I thought he was fantastic tonight, absolutely world class, he repeatedly made Dunney and Richards look like dummies.
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He was ****ing awesome tonight, he won the game for spurs, took the pressure of them all the time.
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best perfermance i have ever seen from an opposing player against city, world class!!!! he was the reason why they seemed to have so much more space than we did tonight, despite having ten men
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I actually wouldnt have minded him scoring at the end when he made us look like mugs again with his turn and shot. Fantastic performance, he took on about 6 players with 1 run in the first half. Always taking the pressure off them.

I can understand that viewpoint as he had some sublime touches and he's always liable to do something magic and open the opposition up. And he did that once or twice, but I just thought he could have been much better. In my opinion he has had way better games.

[MiloMinderbinder]

It's not huge. You'd expect a far harder task against Allardyce's Bolton, a side that had often overwhelmed us, even in those circumstances, than Eriksson's City, a side that often struggles when it's behind and forced to attack.


It's pretty easy to imagine. You're letting the result intoxicate your appraisal. I wasn't advocating "charging around the pitch", but there were instances when he'd lost the ball, and could have just made an effort to make the defender in possession hurry a bit more. There was a good example on the highlights yesterday. Having been dispossessed, Berb is about 10 yards from Richards, who is in the centre circle with the ball, yet he has no interest in putting any pressure on him and Richards has enough time to make a cup of tea before just moving the ball out to the right.

Nope, I wouldn't expect a harder task, 2 - 0 up meant Bolton had to come at us, which an Allardyce team is singuarly unable to do without resorting to meat and drink long ball. City may well have struggled to break us down, in no small part influenced by the fact that 3 defenders were occupied by Berbatov. That's not to say I thought he was better last night than he was against Bolton, by virtue of the fact that the Bolton performance was the best I have ever seen by a centre forward, that would be impossible. But, you can't expect him to chase down everything, there's such a thing as only fighting the battles you can win. At times when down to 10 men one of the best things you can do is give the oppo time on the ball, ILOGICAL I hear you cry, but no it's not, it slows the pace of the game down, thus giving defenders the chance to reposition, spot their men and mark up.

As for the result intoxicating me, nope, I am the most cyncial Spurs fan I know and look for grey clouds in sunny skies, last night was one of those rare moments when an Indian summer shone!

In Ramos I trust!

[choda]

Nope, I wouldn't expect a harder task, 2 - 0 up meant Bolton had to come at us, which an Allardyce team is singuarly unable to do without resorting to meat and drink long ball. City may well have struggled to break us down, in no small part influenced by the fact that 3 defenders were occupied by Berbatov. That's not to say I thought he was better last night than he was against Bolton, by virtue of the fact that the Bolton performance was the best I have ever seen by a centre forward, that would be impossible. But, you can't expect him to chase down everything, there's such a thing as only fighting the battles you can win. At times when down to 10 men one of the best things you can do is give the oppo time on the ball, ILOGICAL I hear you cry, but no it's not, it slows the pace of the game down, thus giving defenders the chance to reposition, spot their men and mark up.

As for the result intoxicating me, nope, I am the most cyncial Spurs fan I know and look for grey clouds in sunny skies, last night was one of those rare moments when an Indian summer shone!

In Ramos I trust!

It can be a tactic to let them have it until they cross half way, but aside from that I've seen him hold the ball up better, like last week. He just frustrated me at times.

[Ginola's Son]

Things are coming together nicely

But it still could have been acheived without some of the theatre. I won't forget it!