pound for pound

[neilmcnab]

who is gona be more effective 4 us mido or carlton cole... weight up all the attributes price... what each player brings with him...pace ... heading ability... shooting ability...temperment...conditioning...

[DonJolSpurano]

who is gona be more effective 4 us mido or carlton cole... weight up all the attributes price... what each player brings with him...pace ... heading ability... shooting ability...temperment...conditioning...

difficult answer to give. i like CC, he's always impressed me for england and chelsea, but not for villa nd charlton. if martin can get him firing, he could be a big asset. he's strong, good in the air and on the floor and is quite mobile for a big lad...more so than crouch. would be a good second choice tall man and is young and british so would fit in well.

mido comes at too high a price and has questions over his mentality, although has proven he can be a great asset to us and is just as good, or maybe better than, CC.

[Welsh Spur]

He's ten times better than Cole, and I hope we here out of nowhere that Mido has signed a Spurs deal, and that Defoe is staying also. (which now looks more likely as Kuyt is in love with Toon)

[Welsh Spur]

He's ten times better than Cole, and I hope we hear out of nowhere that Mido has signed a Spurs deal, and that Defoe is staying also. (which now looks more likely as Kuyt is in love with Toon)

[shoot_ffs]

difficult to say yes. I can't see mido wanting to sit on the bench, his attitude appears to be his biggest downfall. I think cole would be a safe gamble at 1-2m as he has good attributes, and will benefit from our striker coaching which seems to be showing dividends, keane and defoe improving last year in both attitude and team play.

[Welsh Spur]

If next year, our front line is made up of Defoe, Keane, Berbatov and Mido, I will be very happy, more so than if we sign Cole.

[Houdini logic]

if CC cost 1 million and Mido cost 5 million, i know who i'd have.

[WelshSpur82]

i would prefer if we went for neither, we need better than that to push on in my opinion,

[SurreySpur]

Id go for carlton cole, he's going to want to prove a point, Mido lost interest and was very dissapointing after the African cup of nations. What have we got to lose in signing cole for £2million? Could be the signing of the season, lets just make sure if he does sign we support him and keep his confidence up, he's still only a young kid that seems to have talent but has always lacked a manager to show faith in him. Martin Jol could get the best out of him.

After all, the kid deserves a break as he had to play under David O'leary, poor sod!!

[dommo]

1-2 mill is ok and he's only going to be 4th choice. Surely Mido would be signed by now if MJ was going to sign him. Cole has a point to prove and is still young. Don't see why it would be a bad thing.

[Aussiespur]

CC has shown glimpses of quality but not enough to get me excited about signing him. Mido for all his attitude & weight problems is quality & has obvious potential to be world class ....

[marcusto]

I would rather Carlton Cole.... it is very unlikely Mido will sit on the bench.... and when you got Keane, Berbatov and Defoe....... + Roma will hold out for at least 5mil anyways and CC @1mil.

Better still Chelsea are open to offers for Gudjohnsen... now thats a player Spurs should buy!

[Aussiespur]

I would rather Carlton Cole.... it is very unlikely Mido will sit on the bench.... and when you got Keane, Berbatov and Defoe....... + Roma will hold out for at least 5mil anyways and CC @1mil.

Better still Chelsea are open to offers for Gudjohnsen... now thats a player Spurs should buy!

What happened to all the talk that we had agreed a price (of 4 million) as part of the loan deal ?

[Danishspurs]

Mido is a better footballer then CC, but his mentality is a big problem and I can't see him be sitting on the bench for most of the next season...

[marcusto]

Roma kept bumping the price up, their was talk of them wanting 6mil....

[Welsh Spur]

I would rather Carlton Cole.... it is very unlikely Mido will sit on the bench.... and when you got Keane, Berbatov and Defoe....... + Roma will hold out for at least 5mil anyways and CC @1mil.

Better still Chelsea are open to offers for Gudjohnsen... now thats a player Spurs should buy!

Why do people keep talking about forwards on the bench?

Everyone will play a part next season, we have 4 competitions!

[Chinaman]

The price for CC is now said to be 2 million. Even then it is a fair price.

[fluke]

We can talk all we want about ability, do we forget that Mido is a loose cannon. I think he's a good player, finds the net, does lot's of unselfish things off the ball but he's a nutter therefore somewhat of a liability.
Be interesting to know what really happened towards the end of last season with him. Something smelled a bit fishy to me.

[Welsh Spur]

When representing Tottenham, Mido has shown a good attitude and a desire to play, as well as proving his ability. The only time I've witnessed his 'lunacy' was during ANC. He has done nothing to make me think he does not merit a contract at the club.

[laspur]

If Mido gets fit, then he has world class potential. His attitude is questionable but so is Defoe's in that case. We should sell Defoe buy Gudjohnson and give Mido a second chance, remember he knocked in 10+ for us earlier in the season.

[marcusto]

Why do people keep talking about forwards on the bench?

Everyone will play a part next season, we have 4 competitions!

I would of thought he would want a pivitol part in the team....

For a strike partnership to work surely they gotta have 10-12 games together to understand how each player plays... so at the start of season I would expect too see Berbatov and Keane up front... Then like Keane last season when u get a chance to play u take it and Defoe had to deal with it.... and I can't see Mido waiting on the bench for his chance to play... espically if Berbatov and Keane strike up a good partnership.....

Also Martin Jol does perfer the big man little man partnership

[highlander]

lets not kid ourself, CC is nothing to Mido, remember Mido's only 23 himself and can really change a game. when he plays he plays with passion. in the 1st half of the season before Keano hit top form Mido was the man and saved us on a number of occassions. we will be in 4 competitions next season so all 4 strikers will play a lot and now we have Berbatov we can allow Mido some real recovery time as i think we rushed him back from the African Cup Of Nations. yes he will cost about £5million but we've just signed 2 huge sponsorship deals so now is the time to splash the cash. he definately shoudl be signed. Carlton Cole has shown potential and will have something to prove but he's like so many others that have promised a lot and delivered very little. why risk it when for £3-4million more we can get someone as quality as Mido. yes £3-4million is a lot of money but signing Mido also adds to the continuity in the squad which is a huge factor in a successful club which is what we want to be.

[Welsh Spur]

Highlander, bang on there mate.

[highlander]

Highlander, bang on there mate.
thank you!

[marcusto]

I understand we need strength and depth but what I am saying would Mido stay if he was gonna play only about 15 games... when if he went to another club he play 30+ games including european games... also lets not forget their are some big european clubs interested in him....

Sorry don't get me wrong Mido is a great player... but what trying to say is would he be willing to be sub if.. lets say Keane and Berbatov strike up a good partnership... I would highly doubt Jol to drop either for a UEFA cup game if they are scoring loads of goals... mayb rest em for the carling cup

Also lets not forget Defoe or Barnard

look at last season Keane and Mido were on fire, Defoe couldn't get a look in..

[Keanoldinho]

Mido is a idiot look at his career stats

http://www.footballdatabase.com/site/players/index.php?dumpPlayer=738

last season a side he has never played more than 24 games in a season and that only happened once. If we gave him a 3-4 year contract we would be feckn retarted going by his track record and the fact that he's already shown glimpses of his true self an arrogant rich kid ******.

Cole on the other hand deserves his chance to shine and has already got a good playing relationship with Defoe when they played for the Under 21 team together. Defoe and Cole could well be a very good partnership as their playing styles imo would compliment each other perfectly.

[highlander]

Mido is a idiot look at his career stats

http://www.footballdatabase.com/site/players/index.php?dumpPlayer=738

last season a side he has never played more than 24 games in a season and that only happened once. If we gave him a 3-4 year contract we would be feckn retarted going by his track record and the fact that he's already shown glimpses of his true self an arrogant rich kid ******.

Cole on the other hand deserves his chance to shine and has already got a good playing relationship with Defoe when they played for the Under 21 team together. Defoe and Cole could well be a very good partnership as their playing styles imo would compliment each other perfectly.
i have to disagree with what you said about Mido. if we signed him he would be a great player as soon as he re-establishes a partnership with Defoe. he's shown that when he's is a striking partnership he is great i.e. his record at Ajax with Ibrahimovic. and remember he's not supposed to be the goalscoring striker but more of a knock on man who isnt supposed to be that prolific and for that sort of player he has a great record.

[Keanoldinho]

I'm not going to lie and say Mido couldn't become a very good player, but he's been given more chances than any one player deserves and feckd them all up. Has he ever played a full season for any team?

Fact is Jol aint going to sign him and I wouldn't either, because he's an absolute plank and doesn't deserve to be a pro footballer. Cole deserves his chance and I hope we give it to him, besides last time we spent 1 mil on a player 1 season later he was priceless.

[WelshSpur82]

How about Cardiff citys Cameron Jerome, Young English scored loads of goals in a pretty average team in the championship, Maybe ok for fourth choice ??
What you guys think?

[neilmcnab]

4 me carlton cole is ideal 4 us he has everything mido has and more.. he has pace and doesnt tire like mido... cos he hasnt got weight problem... he has good work rate... god in air... on the ground...powerful... and has potential to be englaand international... like som1 said he needs a manager to show some faith in him... wen he came tho at chelsea ... he had gudjonson infront.. and others who were internationals... but chelsea stil gave him a glimse.. of prem football ... from that he played for u21s...actually he has neva had a proper chance with a manager... always make weight.. or stop gap... but the boy is total quality... we cant judge him on villa games... no player looked good 4 villa...look at his game always on end of things and he can learn a lot off the others we have...

[Chinaman]

Right now not so obsessed with who'll be striker #4. I think we better concentrate more on a really good leftie. Rosicky is gone, so who'll be it?

[shoot_ffs]

ryan babel please, just put a video of his in the streams section. tasty but he'll cost.

[Spur]

I'd pay upto £2.5mil for Mido, and £1.5mil for CC.

Mido is not all that, neither is CC.

[sundancer]

I've had my doubts all season about M.J. eagerness to sign Mido on a contract, because we would have signed him by now surely?. If we get Cole for 2 million it may turn out to be a good signing, even if we sign Mido I don't see him accepting being on the bench very often.

[Chinaman]

ryan babel please, just put a video of his in the streams section. tasty but he'll cost.


Babel looks good and strong. Don't mind him; but only after a natural leftie is signed.

[Welsh Spur]

I'd pay upto £2.5mil for Mido, and £1.5mil for CC.

Mido is not all that, neither is CC.

I'd pay £4M for Mido, he's definately worth it.

I'd pay The Media £2M to stop linking us with CC.

[DarlinginJapan]

I'd pay £4M for Mido, he's definately worth it.

I'd pay The Media £2M to stop linking us with CC.

I'll promise never to mention Cole for a tenner!

[shoot_ffs]

shame as SSN are saying it's almost done for 2m. and wet brom have turned down 3.5m bid for davies. I think they paid 3m so they hardly gonna sell him for that.

[highlander]

apparently the Carlton Cole deal will be done this week, £2million, 4-year £18,000 a week deal

[shoot_ffs]

nice work if you can get it. Wonder if barnard will be sold then. Can't see him wanting to play reserves all his life. Same with Hammy. Suspect we'll sell one and loan another, might leave our ressies a bit light tho.

[Chinaman]

Of the two, I'd like to keep Hammy. Looked really good in pre-season and while on loan to Derby before his injury.

[Spur]

How about Cardiff citys Cameron Jerome, Young English scored loads of goals in a pretty average team in the championship, Maybe ok for fourth choice ??
What you guys think?

You not remember Bobby Zamora...?

And yes I know he is scoring, but he is not good enough, was not good enough and will never be good enough.

[Welsh Spur]

No way.....we can't sign any bluebirds.....SCUM!