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Neil_Vaughan
29th October 2007, 12:21 PM
Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

shakey18
29th October 2007, 12:29 PM
Alnwick, Tarby, and KPB to play please.

Ginola's Son
29th October 2007, 01:06 PM
Winning is good for morale, but a defeat would allow us to concentrate on our ****ing dreadful position

wayne wonder
29th October 2007, 01:21 PM
I'm going for a 2-1 defeat keeping in with our current form we'll score 1st like we have in about 7 games this season then fail to defend silly set pieces!!:rolleyes:

Keanoldinho
29th October 2007, 03:15 PM
Ramos first official game in charge so we're bound to win 10-0 at least appy dayz mon

berbzy 'G'
29th October 2007, 03:24 PM
Teams always win under new managers on there first game...

Spurs 5 0 Blackpool...

Cerny

Chimbonda Dawson Kaboul Lee

Lennon KPB Huddlestne Taarabt

Defoe Keane

spursmadnick06
29th October 2007, 03:40 PM
Ironically Jol's first game in charge was against lower league oposition in the League Cup.

Ginola's Son
29th October 2007, 03:58 PM
Teams always win under new managers on there first game...

Gross didn't, George didn't, Jol didn't, Hoddle didn't.

jrio
29th October 2007, 04:17 PM
Gross didn't, George didn't, Jol didn't, Hoddle didn't.
Bill Nick did! 10-4 v Everton. :D

MiloMinderbinder
29th October 2007, 04:18 PM
Ironically Jol's first game in charge was against lower league oposition in the League Cup.

Was Jol's first game not the 4-3 lose to the Gooners, which basically scared him away from playing such open football ever again.

Ginola's Son
29th October 2007, 04:25 PM
Don't remember a 4-3 loss. Remember a 5-4 loss.

spurs61
29th October 2007, 06:07 PM
Don't remember a 4-3 loss. Remember a 5-4 loss.

:( :mad: :o :eek:

MiloMinderbinder
29th October 2007, 06:14 PM
Don't remember a 4-3 loss. Remember a 5-4 loss.

Ah yes of course. You know what happended? I spent 90% of the 2nd half with my head in my hands reciting over and over again "it's all a dream, it's all a dream", thus missed one or two goals.

spursmadnick06
29th October 2007, 10:15 PM
Was Jol's first game not the 4-3 lose to the Gooners, which basically scared him away from playing such open football ever again.

Yeah i think you're right, the League Cup match was his first win then ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_cup/3988365.stm

Spur
30th October 2007, 02:07 PM
Win.

Can't be anything less.

peterc
30th October 2007, 02:59 PM
Win.

Can't be anything less.

The lazy c*nts might be too tired to play well after the hard training they have experienced these last few days.

wayne wonder
30th October 2007, 03:13 PM
Ah yes of course. You know what happended? I spent 90% of the 2nd half with my head in my hands reciting over and over again "it's all a dream, it's all a dream", thus missed one or two goals.

That game was the worst ever for me along with the man city 4-3 in the cup a few years back

TURKISH
30th October 2007, 03:33 PM
That game was the worst ever for me along with the man city 4-3 in the cup a few years back

Don't you remember the rules wayne, were not allowed to talk about the city game on this forum or you get banned! :p

I think the big guns have to play as we need a morale boost. Ramos will keep it simple and won't complicate the players with stupid tactics.

TEAM SHEET:
CERNY
LEE
CHIMBONDA
DAWSON
KABOUL...........................WHO ELSE?
GHALY
TAINIO
HUDD
TAARBY
DEFOE
BENT
SUBS: ANLWICK,STALTERI,ZOKORA,LENNON, BERBY

A clean sheet is a must and for the match not to go extra time!

jrio
30th October 2007, 04:05 PM
TEAM SHEET:
CERNY
LEE
CHIMBONDA
DAWSON
KABOUL...........................WHO ELSE?
GHALY
TAINIO
HUDD
TAARBY
DEFOE
BENT
SUBS: ANLWICK,STALTERI,ZOKORA,LENNON, BERBY

A clean sheet is a must and for the match not to go extra time!
Ghaly's in Egypt. For his first game I don't think we'll see any experimenting. Might well be the same line-up as Sunday.

Spur
30th October 2007, 04:57 PM
Routledge will start, I am sure of that.

jrio
30th October 2007, 05:11 PM
Routledge will start, I am sure of that.

Why so sure?

Spur
30th October 2007, 05:14 PM
Why so sure?

He is one of our only two or three wingers.

I've counted Adel as a winger mainly because he can run and dribble.

Otherwise I would have agreed we may have seen Ghaly back, but if he's in Egypt then it's obviously a no-go. Why is he in Egypt?

MiloMinderbinder
30th October 2007, 05:18 PM
KPB to get a run out I reckon, probably as a sub.

Apparently the Tangerines are struggling to get some of their main players fit for the game, that's OK we've struggled to get the entire playing staff fit all season.

wayne wonder
30th October 2007, 05:34 PM
Don't you remember the rules wayne, were not allowed to talk about the city game on this forum or you get banned! :p

I think the big guns have to play as we need a morale boost. Ramos will keep it simple and won't complicate the players with stupid tactics.

TEAM SHEET:
CERNY
LEE
CHIMBONDA
DAWSON
KABOUL...........................WHO ELSE?
GHALY
TAINIO
HUDD
TAARBY
DEFOE
BENT
SUBS: ANLWICK,STALTERI,ZOKORA,LENNON, BERBY

A clean sheet is a must and for the match not to go extra time!


I know but i still have nightmare's and it doesn't help when you have a man city fan constantly mentioning it :(

jrio
30th October 2007, 05:40 PM
He is one of our only two or three wingers.

I've counted Adel as a winger mainly because he can run and dribble.

Otherwise I would have agreed we may have seen Ghaly back, but if he's in Egypt then it's obviously a no-go. Why is he in Egypt?

He wasn't in a position to be played by Jol and the club agreed he could return there.

If Routledge's looked lively in training it's a possibility. The last thing Ramos wants to risk is his first game to a side from an "inferior division" beating Spurs at home.

spursmadnick06
30th October 2007, 05:49 PM
Routledge will start, I am sure of that.

Good, so you're saying me might start seeing some balance across our midfield for once!

berbzy 'G'
30th October 2007, 05:52 PM
Routledge... He's an ok sort of player, But Nobody seems to want to buy him of us, They always want him on loan!!

Spur
30th October 2007, 05:57 PM
He wasn't in a position to be played by Jol and the club agreed he could return there.

If Routledge's looked lively in training it's a possibility. The last thing Ramos wants to risk is his first game to a side from an "inferior division" beating Spurs at home.

Well talking of risk, this is a quote found by someone on coys:

“We didn’t have another choice than to take big risks, and maybe the excessive level of our ambition led us to the defeat, but when you lose because you take risks, and because you try to win, it isn’t bad. We did all we could”

You've probably just seen it as you've only just posted in the thread, but for the benefit of others...!

jrio
30th October 2007, 06:02 PM
You've probably just seen it as you've only just posted in the thread, but for the benefit of others...!

A risk he took last year having been in charge for over a year, finishing 5th and winning the UEFA Cup. Don't expect him to be taking off a player without adding a sub tomorrow, either. :p

MiloMinderbinder
30th October 2007, 06:09 PM
Don't expect him to be taking off a player without adding a sub tomorrow, either. :p

:D Could I request that we play for the 2nd half without a keeper, if that doesn't wake the defence and midfield up nothing will.

jrio
30th October 2007, 06:19 PM
:D Could I request that we play for the 2nd half without a keeper, if that doesn't wake the defence and midfield up nothing will.

We have been doing that from the start of games. Then he got injured and Cerny came in. ;)

MiloMinderbinder
30th October 2007, 06:21 PM
We have been doing that from the start of games. Then he got injured and Cerny came in. ;)

It's actually a very useful training excercise, it teaches players how to protect areas of the pitch.

I am available for tactical advice Sr. Ramos, but I won't waste my time with GayGay.

jrio
30th October 2007, 06:32 PM
It's actually a very useful training excercise, it teaches players how to protect areas of the pitch.

I understand from sources that Spur's team often practice in this manner. Then all that hard work is wasted when the clumsy oaf streaks out of his goal and bundles a striker to the ground. :D

And he thinks they call him David James because ....oh, you fill in the rest. :p

Spur
30th October 2007, 06:38 PM
I understand from sources that Spur's team often practice in this manner. Then all that hard work is wasted when the clumsy oaf streaks out of his goal and bundles a striker to the ground. :D

And he thinks they call him David James because ....oh, you fill in the rest. :p

David James?

As much as I called myself Paul Robinson-esque a couple years back they now have great fun in calling me Robbo themselves.

I throw the gloves at them when they do it and tell them to go in goal.

They soon shut up.

jrio
30th October 2007, 07:18 PM
David James?

As much as I called myself Paul Robinson-esque a couple years back they now have great fun in calling me Robbo themselves.

I throw the gloves at them when they do it and tell them to go in goal.

They soon shut up.

Because you immediately run back and pick them up saying: "Thought so, you bunch of ******s! Now get on with it!"?

Got David James from choda. :o

choda
30th October 2007, 08:06 PM
When Spur sees me bringing David James into my fantasy team he may inquire about double standards.

As for GayGay, that's quite a tag, and strangely I find it more insulting than Uncle ****er, which is my unaffectionado for him. I'm going to have to stop saying it though, now that Jol has left the scene.

I think I will lay off for a while and see if Ramos can do amazing things with him.

Well, one can hope. :o

choda
30th October 2007, 08:07 PM
Because you immediately run back and pick them up saying: "Thought so, you bunch of ******s! Now get on with it!"?

Got David James from choda. :o

Don't mind him, he does love David James.

olly27
31st October 2007, 12:39 PM
I dont expect major changes at all tonight. All about getting the result. keane to score twice tonight in 3-0 win, berbatov to knab the other.

SurreySpur
31st October 2007, 05:40 PM
Has anyone have any links for live streaming of tonights game? Ive checked all the usual places but havn't found anything yet.

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 06:20 PM
it's all about the "MAGIC JUANDE" :p

COME ON YOU SPURS 4-0

jrio
31st October 2007, 06:23 PM
Spurs squad(from COYS source)

Huddlestone not in it
Routledge, jenas and boateng are
Possibly Routledge on the right as lennon has been asked if he could play left mid

coys
31st October 2007, 06:29 PM
Is the match being streamed on the interweb anywhere? cause it aint on tv

mjbmedia
31st October 2007, 07:11 PM
cant vouch for it but im trying it later

http://www.centraldesktop.com/vpar6/watchcarlingcupfootballlive/TottenhamVBlackpool

copy paste it uses sopcast

coys
31st October 2007, 07:23 PM
cheers mate thanks for that

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 08:15 PM
Why has the game not started yet anyone know?

SurreySpur
31st October 2007, 08:17 PM
Why has the game not started yet anyone know?

LOL

Your kidding right Keano?

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 08:19 PM
LOL

Your kidding right Keano?


:o No

there's no live coverage on the official site and I can't find a stream:(

Welsh Spur
31st October 2007, 08:20 PM
Why has the game not started yet anyone know?


You did remember to put your clock back over the weekend didn't you? :p

choda
31st October 2007, 08:21 PM
You've got your hours wrong Keano, it's not on for 40 minutes.

nuttyhotspurs
31st October 2007, 08:21 PM
sopcast seems to be down tonite. been told the game is on a program called afreeca but heard nothing but horror stories about it so never bothered installing and setting it up before

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 08:21 PM
You did remember to put your clock back over the weekend didn't you? :p


:o lmao that could be the problem:D

hastingsyid
31st October 2007, 08:22 PM
spurs 1 blackpool 3


ffs im going mad

SurreySpur
31st October 2007, 08:23 PM
sopcast seems to be down tonite. been told the game is on a program called afreeca but heard nothing but horror stories about it so never bothered installing and setting it up before

That Afreeka isn't worth bothering with at all. Absolutley shite program!

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 08:26 PM
That Afreeka isn't worth bothering with at all. Absolutley shite program!


It used to work good 2 seasons ago but know it's shite

Welsh Spur
31st October 2007, 08:27 PM
The midfield is Malbranque, Zok, Jenas and Lennon. Same old, same old then......

choda
31st October 2007, 08:28 PM
spurs 1 blackpool 3


ffs im going mad

Is that a prediction? :p

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 08:30 PM
I just figured out why I thought the game shoulda started already because the clocks don't go back over here in yankee land until tonite or tomorrow nite

shakey18
31st October 2007, 08:34 PM
Robbo in, JJ in for Hudds-KPB on the bench

SurreySpur
31st October 2007, 08:52 PM
HAHAHAHA

Leicester are one up at chelsea.

coys
31st October 2007, 08:58 PM
shit the scum r one up against sheff utd

SurreySpur
31st October 2007, 08:59 PM
Has anyone got a stream yet? The link posted earlier doesn't seem to be doing much at the moment.

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:02 PM
Ramos aint into all that razzmatazz he just strolled out no intro or nothing

coys
31st October 2007, 09:03 PM
aparrently sopcast is down you can listen to it on bbc radio london you can find it here www.bbc.co.uk/radio (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio)

JM_
31st October 2007, 09:04 PM
Anyone know about any radio link that works outside the UK?

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:06 PM
Ok, not a great start it sounds, but what's new right?

Robbo already faultered, commentator was lost for words. Which is quite bad for a commentator especially on radio.

I've every faith for a 3-0 or 4-0 win. Yes, I am going to go all out and say WE WILL KEEP A CLEAN SHEET.

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:07 PM
Chels 1-1.

coys
31st October 2007, 09:08 PM
the bbc radio link works im in ireland just open the live real player and select local radio its on london 94.9

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:09 PM
Anyone know about any radio link that works outside the UK?


yeah I'm in america and the bbc london link works for me to

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:10 PM
Keane chance. 5 yards, only just wide, sounded like Lennon and Berba created it, corner given.

Corner wasted.

JM_
31st October 2007, 09:10 PM
the bbc radio link works im in ireland just open the live real player and select local radio its on london 94.9

Thanks! Seems to work.

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:10 PM
sounds like Keano just missed a sitter

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:13 PM
Should of been 1-0 Blackpool as well.

Laughable defending again. Kaboul by the sounds of it.

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:14 PM
we sound shit

coys
31st October 2007, 09:14 PM
bbc radio london do live commentary on most of our games so you can hear commentary on most games

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:16 PM
Kaboul is a ****ing nightmare where the hell is dervitte?? :mad:

nuttyhotspurs
31st October 2007, 09:17 PM
sounds like a god awful start. cant wait til gardner and king are fit again so we can **** daws and kaboul off

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:18 PM
Keane 1-0.

nuttyhotspurs
31st October 2007, 09:18 PM
thank **** for keano

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:18 PM
bbc radio london do live commentary on most of our games so you can hear commentary on most games


yeah I've been using it for most of this season since the streams pretty much dried

mydadspants
31st October 2007, 09:18 PM
Get in...1-0 Keano, theres only one Keano

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:18 PM
Route 1 against lower league opposition, who would of thunk it.

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:19 PM
Keano with the goal Robbo with the assist

is Robbo leading in assists this season or what?

nuttyhotspurs
31st October 2007, 09:20 PM
Route 1 against lower league opposition, who would of thunk it.

ill take route 1 at the minute! its been a dead end road for most of the season:p

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:21 PM
Thank **** for spurs tv :)

SurreySpur
31st October 2007, 09:22 PM
Thank **** for spurs tv :)

are they showing the game or is it just commentary?

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:23 PM
Juande isn't happy.

Lennon sounds like he's doing alright.

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:23 PM
Just audio mate i got excited for a min as it looked like they were gonna show it

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:25 PM
Im loving the fact Magic Juande's getting pissed off!!

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:25 PM
Juande isn't happy.

Lennon sounds like he's doing alright.


on the radio it sounds like he's spent most of the time at the edge of his technical area pissed off barking orders, it's a great change from Jol just sitting there with his arms crossed looking sad

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:28 PM
I can see our defence being totally different by the end of January

jrio
31st October 2007, 09:30 PM
on the radio it sounds like he's spent most of the time at the edge of his technical area pissed off barking orders,

Any of the players looking back at him puzzled and saying: "Que?"? :D

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:31 PM
I can see our defence being totally different by the end of January

Would love to see Dervite given an opportunity. Can't be any worse than what we currently have. Think he's getting back to full fitness right now as well.

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:33 PM
Would love to see Dervite given an opportunity. Can't be any worse than what we currently have. Think he's getting back to full fitness right now as well.


Dervite and Mills couldn't be any worse than Daws and Kaboul at the minute are League 1 standard

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:35 PM
Any of the players looking back at him puzzled and saying: "Que?"? :D

hahaha alright fat boy?! ****ing hell we need u in defence i tell ya

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:36 PM
Dervite and Mills couldn't be any worse than Daws and Kaboul at the minute are League 1 standard

Tell me bout it mate Kaboul really isn't a defender ramos is shacking his head

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:37 PM
Dervite and Mills couldn't be any worse than Daws and Kaboul at the minute are League 1 standard

Was it Southend he played against, i'll go with against Southend in the FA Cup rather than League Cup last season...

Well whoever it was, I remember watching him, Ifil played to, Barcham as well, Dervite was so calm, big presence at the back and worked well with Dawson.

Commentators keep saying about Juande behing unhappy! A big kick up the arse is coming to those players in about 5 minutes!

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:39 PM
Was it Southend he played against, i'll go with against Southend in the FA Cup rather than League Cup last season...

Well whoever it was, I remember watching him, Ifil played to, Barcham as well, Dervite was so calm, big presence at the back and worked well with Dawson.

Commentators keep saying about Juande behing unhappy! A big kick up the arse is coming to those players in about 5 minutes!

they better get used to double training sessions at this rate

jrio
31st October 2007, 09:41 PM
Was it Southend he played against, i'll go with against Southend in the FA Cup rather than League Cup last season...

Well whoever it was, I remember watching him, Ifil played to, Barcham as well, Dervite was so calm, big presence at the back and worked well with Dawson.

Commentators keep saying about Juande behing unhappy! A big kick up the arse is coming to those players in about 5 minutes!

LC as I was there and Ifil was shocking. Dervitte did look particularly calm in possession.

How about this:

30.54: Zokora 30-yarder into top tier of Park Lane.

Is that written into his contract, because it seems to happen in most games?

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:44 PM
LC as I was there and Ifil was shocking. Dervitte did look particularly calm in possession.

How about this:

30.54: Zokora 30-yarder into top tier of Park Lane.

Is that written into his contract, because it seems to happen in most games?

I stand corrected.

Did you hear the commentators taking the piss? Comical. I don't know which is the funnier though, Zokora's attacking or Zokora's defending...

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 09:46 PM
Now they're taking the piss but zokora is that bad

mydadspants
31st October 2007, 09:47 PM
Defence sound shocking, and what about Robbo haplessly lunging a punch at a corner. Same old.

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:48 PM
Kaboul , Ekotto, and Zokora are shit I'm beginning to think Comolli is a pretty shit scout. Who's telling him these players are good. Comolli must still work for Wenger he's been sent here to sabotage us and fill the team up with shite french speaking players

jrio
31st October 2007, 09:51 PM
Having seen him a few times, and judging by comments from those at the game, Kaboul is much more a midfielder than a defender. Scoring all those goals was probably an indication of that.

Keanoldinho
31st October 2007, 09:53 PM
get zokora off and boateng on

Spur
31st October 2007, 09:54 PM
Having seen him a few times, and judging by comments from those at the game, Kaboul is much more a midfielder than a defender. Scoring all those goals was probably an indication of that.

Think he is just very similar to Hudd, only difference being that Kaboul will run with the ball.

In fact, I think he could be a cross between Hudd and Zokora.

Spur
31st October 2007, 10:05 PM
Blackpool hit cross bar.

I'm in stitches.

Spur
31st October 2007, 10:10 PM
Shock Horror

"Zokora running down blind alley"

jrio
31st October 2007, 10:14 PM
Any sign of Jenas? We're somehow managing to look like the underdogs.

jrio
31st October 2007, 10:16 PM
****ing hell.

55.29: SUB - SPURS. Tainio for Kaboul.

Zokora into centre? Can't be Chimbo.

Shows what I know and then we score. Anyone able to explain that?

Spur
31st October 2007, 10:17 PM
I've just missed two minutes of radio, we've just scored, can someone quickly explain the run-up to it though!

SurreySpur
31st October 2007, 10:20 PM
Corner mis-judged by keeper and chimbonda thumped the header home.

Chelsea 2-3 Leicester!!

AssaTM
31st October 2007, 10:21 PM
Well they were saying on SSN that Tainio passed it to malbranque, or berba, from right back I believe, and Berba hit a 20 yard pass straight to Keane who layed it off for Lennon and then it was cleared for a corner I believe, dont quote me 100% on that as I forgot some of it, but I know they mentioned Berba hit a really nice pass to Keane :p

And then yeh from the corner Chimbo beats the man on the post and into the net

spursmadnick06
31st October 2007, 10:24 PM
****ing hell.

55.29: SUB - SPURS. Tainio for Kaboul.

Zokora into centre? Can't be Chimbo.

Shows what I know and then we score. Anyone able to explain that?


Ramos taking off Kaboul who was playing awful is already a good sign, maybe he will be the man who knows when to make changes!

JuicE
31st October 2007, 10:24 PM
Let's not forget! This is Blackpool we're playing. We should have 5 by now.

choda
31st October 2007, 10:26 PM
Well they were saying on SSN that Tainio passed it to malbranque, or berba, from right back I believe, and Berba hit a 20 yard pass straight to Keane who layed it off for Lennon and then it was cleared for a corner I believe, dont quote me 100% on that as I forgot some of it, but I know they mentioned Berba hit a really nice pass to Keane :p

And then yeh from the corner Chimbo beats the man on the post and into the net

You still have that Peter Beardsley habit. :p

jrio
31st October 2007, 10:26 PM
Let's not forget! This is Blackpool we're playing. We should have 5 by now.
Judging by the performance we could be losing 2-1. :(

AssaTM
31st October 2007, 10:28 PM
You still have that Peter Beardsley habit. :p

I only did it once! haha, but yeh, I lost it, then it sneaked up on me again :( haha

And on SSN they're saying it's the first time this season they've seen Berba get out of second gear, which is always good to hear/see

JuicE
31st October 2007, 10:29 PM
Judging by the performance we could be losing 2-1. :(

Not Good then?

choda
31st October 2007, 10:29 PM
Ramos taking off Kaboul who was playing awful is already a good sign, maybe he will be the man who knows when to make changes!

Yes, he's renowned for being good at it.

choda
31st October 2007, 10:33 PM
****ing pikeys.

Spur
31st October 2007, 10:47 PM
So 2-0, doesn't sound too good, but maybe what we needed.

We got the win and it wasn't pretty, so Juande will know first hand what he is dealing with. Let's hope he can sort us out.

choda
31st October 2007, 10:48 PM
Chav pikeys win thanks to the Ukranian. Maybe he will suit real football at the bridge and it's not all down to him losing his legs.

wayne wonder
31st October 2007, 10:54 PM
Kaboul deserved to come off but thwn again so did Zokora and did JJ play cuz i heard his name mentioned and that was that!!

I hope the players understand spanish because he's gonna rip them a new one haha:mad:

Spur
31st October 2007, 10:54 PM
CLEAN SHEET!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get in! About 4 in 50 now!

choda
31st October 2007, 11:05 PM
CLEAN SHEET!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get in! About 4 in 50 now!

Yes, and by the sounds of it because he saw a problem and was decisive. How refreshing.

jrio
31st October 2007, 11:16 PM
Yes, and by the sounds of it because he saw a problem and was decisive. How refreshing.

Everyone and his dog seemed to see it. Radical solution that I didn't quite anticipate. The guy clearly doesn't lack cojones. Tonight's performance was potentially disastrous for him. The team almost seemed to be willing themselves to lose. :confused:

choda
31st October 2007, 11:26 PM
Everyone and his dog seemed to see it. Radical solution that I didn't quite anticipate. The guy clearly doesn't lack cojones. Tonight's performance was potentially disastrous for him. The team almost seemed to be willing themselves to lose. :confused:

Apparently Kaboul was truly awful, but Jol would have left him on.

mjbmedia
31st October 2007, 11:40 PM
Apparently Kaboul was truly awful, but Jol would have left him on.
yeh but it was against Blackpool, in the Premier would we have got away with chimbo moving in and JJ/Zokora going right back ?

choda
1st November 2007, 12:01 AM
yeh but it was against Blackpool, in the Premier would we have got away with chimbo moving in and JJ/Zokora going right back ?

Well, it was obviously the best shot he had tonight. Let's wait and see what happens as regards loads of things. There will be many things different and many things made possible that weren't possible before. Look at Wenger, he plays players all over and they nearly always slot in and do great.

olly27
1st November 2007, 12:06 AM
Am actually looking forward to the international break..plenty of double training sessions coming for these boys!...they need em.

jrio
1st November 2007, 12:07 AM
yeh but it was against Blackpool, in the Premier would we have got away with chimbo moving in and JJ/Zokora going right back ?
We'd have probably been losing well before then. And we did get away with Chimbo/Zoko in the centre when Davenport was sent off away to Villa last season.

I support Ramos because everything I know about and have seen of him convince me that he is the real deal, to use a cliche. I'm one of the bigger critics of Levy and DC, especially the former, but I don't see how keeping Jol in charge is going to address the immediate problems we have. Ideally DC would have been sacked and Levy forced to endure a public arse-kicking from all Spurs fans. That isn't feasible. Jol brought a lot to this club, qualities that money can't buy but, despite the board's incompetence, he should still be able to deliver a lot more than our present position for the remuneration he was getting.

I'd be far more in agreement with you if we'd sacked Jol merely to replace him with Mark Hughes or Harry Redknapp. Very capable managers but not the "upgrade" we were seeking.

olly27
1st November 2007, 12:09 AM
Apparently Kaboul was truly awful, but Jol would have left him on.

Yep exactly. Allbeit it was against Blackpool but already seeing signs of someone who is proactive than simply reactive. Identifying potential problems and doing something about before they materialise...

olly27
1st November 2007, 12:19 AM
We'd have probably been losing well before then. And we did get away with Chimbo/Zoko in the centre when Davenport was sent off away to Villa last season.

I support Ramos because everything I know about and have seen of him convince me that he is the real deal, to use a cliche. I'm one of the bigger critics of Levy and DC, especially the former, but I don't see how keeping Jol in charge is going to address the immediate problems we have. Ideally DC would have been sacked and Levy forced to endure a public arse-kicking from all Spurs fans. That isn't feasible. Jol brought a lot to this club, qualities that money can't buy but, despite the board's incompetence, he should still be able to deliver a lot more than our present position for the remuneration he was getting.

I'd be far more in agreement with you if we'd sacked Jol merely to replace him with Mark Hughes or Harry Redknapp. Very capable managers but not the "upgrade" we were seeking.


Of course I agreed with the decision and agree with your point regarding Jol and how he should of done better with the squad at his disposal notwithstanding the boards incompetence. Comolli still concerns me. Was Darren Bent his buy? I ask this because why would the board sanction 16.5 million for Bent if he was a firm Jol choice and then a few months later (in August) be talking to Ramos.

Also heard on your on sky sports tonight, Geoff shreeves saying something to the effect that Levy had responded to the media with regards to not attending the unveilling of Ramos...levy claiming that Ramos was a Comillo appointment...WTH..surely Geoff Shreeves was misinformed?

Spur
1st November 2007, 12:54 AM
Of course I agreed with the decision and agree with your point regarding Jol and how he should of done better with the squad at his disposal notwithstanding the boards incompetence. Comolli still concerns me. Was Darren Bent his buy? I ask this because why would the board sanction 16.5 million for Bent if he was a firm Jol choice and then a few months later (in August) be talking to Ramos.

Also heard on your on sky sports tonight, Geoff shreeves saying something to the effect that Levy had responded to the media with regards to not attending the unveilling of Ramos...levy claiming that Ramos was a Comillo appointment...WTH..surely Geoff Shreeves was misinformed?

Of course Ramos is a Comolli appointment.

Santini was a Levy appointment - a big name for the fans (should of been a World Cup winner remember).

Martin Jol on the other hand was a Frank Arnesen appointment. FA wanted Jol as the main man straight away. As it was FA used his position to undermine Santini and so Jol took the job on. As it goes Comolli also used his position to undermine the manager - this time Jol - to get the appointment he wanted in charge.

Only this time the man DC wanted was both his choice and a big name. Best of both worlds.

In theory replacing Jol should have been done much sooner than it was, the instability right now was caused because of Comolli (where people get Kemsley from is beyond me) wanting his own choice in the driving seat. Whether it fails or succeeds now is down to DC. However, this is as major coup for Comolli as it effectively makes him the main power broker at the Club, the same in what Frank was at the time a couple years back.

The thing is people will say so why not get rid of Comolli...that would have an even bigger negative effect in the sense that we would go after another DoF who would then want to bring in his own manager to work with. The manager (or Head Coach as it is) works for the DoF, not the other way around.

denis-cro
1st November 2007, 01:46 AM
Quarter final draw take place on saturday, and the last 8 are all "big ones"... Apart from us, there are Chelski, City, Arse, Pikeys, Everton, Rovers and Reds... so it will be very nasty... All credits to Ramos, but It will get some time until his work would get noticed on the pitch, cause the players are ****ing awful at the moment... so I hope we draw Pikeys, or Rovers at the Lane for quarters ... this will be very promising in my opinion ... avoiding Arse or Abramovich at this stage would be nice ..:o

mjbmedia
1st November 2007, 09:10 AM
Am actually looking forward to the international break..plenty of double training sessions coming for these boys!...they need em.
well, yeh but we have international players so theyll be away on international duty so unfortunately negating your point

Gino Ginelli
1st November 2007, 11:46 AM
You know, when Robbie scored, I thought; "aye aye, 1:2 defeat here we come"

So was there any noticeable differences in yesterday's performances yet, or are they all shagged from having to actually run in training this week?

Spur
1st November 2007, 12:16 PM
You know, when Robbie scored, I thought; "aye aye, 1:2 defeat here we come"

So was there any noticeable differences in yesterday's performances yet, or are they all shagged from having to actually run in training this week?

CM's had another bad day apparently, as did the CB's. But he's only had two days training with team.

SurreySpur
1st November 2007, 12:32 PM
CM's had another bad day apparently, as did the CB's. But he's only had two days training with team.

Dawson looked steadier when Kaboul went off and Chimbonda moved into the middle with him. Tainio looked solid at right back.

JJ was largley annonymous.

Berba and Lennon looked more interested and seemed to step up a gear(reverse to 1st!!).

At least we got the Ramos reign of to a winning start albeit unconvincingly, hopefully another few days on the training pitch will pay off against boro.

olly27
1st November 2007, 12:51 PM
Of course Ramos is a Comolli appointment.

Santini was a Levy appointment - a big name for the fans (should of been a World Cup winner remember).

Martin Jol on the other hand was a Frank Arnesen appointment. FA wanted Jol as the main man straight away. As it was FA used his position to undermine Santini and so Jol took the job on. As it goes Comolli also used his position to undermine the manager - this time Jol - to get the appointment he wanted in charge.

Only this time the man DC wanted was both his choice and a big name. Best of both worlds.

In theory replacing Jol should have been done much sooner than it was, the instability right now was caused because of Comolli (where people get Kemsley from is beyond me) wanting his own choice in the driving seat. Whether it fails or succeeds now is down to DC. However, this is as major coup for Comolli as it effectively makes him the main power broker at the Club, the same in what Frank was at the time a couple years back.

The thing is people will say so why not get rid of Comolli...that would have an even bigger negative effect in the sense that we would go after another DoF who would then want to bring in his own manager to work with. The manager (or Head Coach as it is) works for the DoF, not the other way around.

Yeah I here what your saying. But you dont see this setup with the likes of Man U. In my opinion would be better off without a DOF full stop. I can see the advantages of such a set-up if the pair work in complete harmony, however any strain on such a relationship would surely be doing more harm than good. Just because Ramos was a Comolli appointment doesn't mean that things will rum smoothly. For me there is just something snide about Comolli, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were probelms further down the road...I hope not.

olly27
1st November 2007, 12:54 PM
well, yeh but we have international players so theyll be away on international duty so unfortunately negating your point

Yes...but players such as Zokora, Jenas (now way he'll be in squad!) Kaboul, malbranque etc etc...get these players training harder!

olly27
1st November 2007, 04:18 PM
Ok just booked tickets for the Man City home game...hope we have improved by then..am coming from Belfast..we better not get a pasting that day..i'll be raging!...barely too young to remeber the last time I was at the lane...is the upper east stand, section B, alright???..anyone..

Spur
1st November 2007, 04:56 PM
Ok just booked tickets for the Man City home game...hope we have improved by then..am coming from Belfast..we better not get a pasting that day..i'll be raging!...barely too young to remeber the last time I was at the lane...is the upper east stand, section B, alright???..anyone..

Upper East is where I almost always sit. Out of interest how much were the tickets?

You won't get a bad view in the East unless you've got a restricted view, behind one of the poles!

When I went the other day I got my tickets on a moody, paid £30 for 3, and they were right at the back of the East, but they were still a quality view. Plus WHL always looks top grade. I thought that when I was at Wembley, nice stadium n'all but not a patch on WHL! Too much of a Hollywood Bowl, you know? WHL is a special place. Especially under lights.

olly27
1st November 2007, 05:11 PM
Upper East is where I almost always sit. Out of interest how much were the tickets?

You won't get a bad view in the East unless you've got a restricted view, behind one of the poles!

When I went the other day I got my tickets on a moody, paid £30 for 3, and they were right at the back of the East, but they were still a quality view. Plus WHL always looks top grade. I thought that when I was at Wembley, nice stadium n'all but not a patch on WHL! Too much of a Hollywood Bowl, you know? WHL is a special place. Especially under lights.

£48 per ticket...sitting row 18...seat 34 in section B...says its not restricted..but then says something about the playing area can be restricted..but not either goalmouth..the restricted prices are £42 which can obstruct one goalmouth...so not sure!

choda
1st November 2007, 05:16 PM
Upper East is where I almost always sit. Out of interest how much were the tickets?

You won't get a bad view in the East unless you've got a restricted view, behind one of the poles!

When I went the other day I got my tickets on a moody, paid £30 for 3, and they were right at the back of the East, but they were still a quality view. Plus WHL always looks top grade. I thought that when I was at Wembley, nice stadium n'all but not a patch on WHL! Too much of a Hollywood Bowl, you know? WHL is a special place. Especially under lights.

I'll never forget the time about 10 years ago I came out the top of the stairs at the lane for a home match against Manu. It was spectacular, it just opened out in front of me in an instant panoramic intensity. It was awesome, a giant sea of spurs fans and the atmosphere was hopping. It was electric. Only WHL could have been that good that day with a team with Vegas and Edinboroughs. We deserve some real teams again. Hopefully that's on the way because we have the foundations to be a truly envied spectular club.

By the way what an enigma Iverson was. He was talented strong forward. He played great that day. He was strong, held it up like a champ and his touch was assured. He really impressed me in the flesh, but all he ever achieved was scoring at Rosenborg. :confused: