Jermain Defoe

[Welsh Spur]

With all the speculation surrounding him, and the constant rumours, it's hard to keep up with the fans' opinion. So I'm posting this poll to find out the truth...

...Defoe. Should he stay or should he go?

Feel free to include your opinions on the matter :D

[spurs61]

There is no option for "not overly fussed" obviously providing he is replaced.

Having said that I'm not sure it's possible to replace him, where else can we find a short-arsed, lazy git with a serious attitude problem and a god complex.

[Welsh Spur]

Fair ehough, my bad, should have included 'Don't Know' as an option, but i'm sure people can come to a yes or no answer?

[Spur]

There is no option for "not overly fussed" obviously providing he is replaced.

Having said that I'm not sure it's possible to replace him, where else can we find a short-arsed, lazy git with a serious attitude problem and a god complex.


I agree. But still want him to stay.

[Danishspurs]

I want him to stay because i know he will score plenty of goals if he gets a chance at spurs... Plus he will score goal if he join a top 6 club and that will hurt us in our hunt for the 4. spot...

[pigeonspurs]

he has shown signs of genius while he has been with us and martin jol has been quoted of saying "he can score in every match this season" i think he is class and people should give him more of a chance. i actually think we play better football with him and robbie up front

[Keanoldinho]

There is no option for "not overly fussed" obviously providing he is replaced.

Having said that I'm not sure it's possible to replace him, where else can we find a short-arsed, lazy git with a serious attitude problem and a god complex.


Well that made me laugh, but I to voted for him to stay. I think him and Cole could be class together if Cole ever signs, but I wouldn't be to disappointed if he left and we replaced him with someone like say Cisse.

[shoot_ffs]

need to keep defoe, sure he will stay. i don't think he's lazy at all and i think most of the top clubs in europe would look at him if he was available. I'm going to shoot cisse so there is no chance of him coming to spurs!!

[Welsh Spur]

he has shown signs of genius while he has been with us and martin jol has been quoted of saying "he can score in every match this season" i think he is class and people should give him more of a chance. i actually think we play better football with him and robbie up front

Yes. I agree. They were destructive against Charlton particularly this season, and read each other so well.

[Keanoldinho]

need to keep defoe, sure he will stay. i don't think he's lazy at all and i think most of the top clubs in europe would look at him if he was available. I'm going to shoot cisse so there is no chance of him coming to spurs!!


You're haven a laugh mate. Most of the top clubs in Europe have probably never heard of him. Name any top club who has a striker that's 5'7''?

[highlander]

he should definately stay, he wont play every game but who could we get that is as good or better than that wont mind sitting on the bench some of the time.

[Welsh Spur]

I don't think not playing will be an issue next season what with 4 competitions....

[Welsh Spur]

You're haven a laugh mate. Most of the top clubs in Europe have probably never heard of him. Name any top club who has a striker that's 5'7''?

Tottenham Hotspur! :D

[spurs61]

Tottenham Hotspur! :D

I think it should have been TOP club not TOT club ;) .

I'm not entirely sure what JD'd height has got to do with this. Does his lack of height preclude him from doing any hard work or passing the ball to his team mates when inside the last third of the pitch?

[Welsh Spur]

It's rather odd, last season nobody could handle Defoe, maybe premiership defences have figured him out.

[AndyHarker]

We need to keep Defoe, he is quality, english and we could not replace him with the same quality for the price we could expect to ge for him! He knows the prem and he knows the way we play! He has to stay!

[spurs61]

It's rather odd, last season nobody could handle Defoe, maybe premiership defences have figured him out.

He didn't look the same player after the first two months of the season. Defoe came out of the blocks on fire this season and picked up where he left off from the previous season. I'm can't put my finger on it but it appeared to me that he spent the rest of the season "going through the motions".

I don't think Jermain is the sort of player who is "figured out" by defences, he's too clever and his improvisation is second to none but there is certainly something wrong with him. It may be that he has had the world cup on his mind but I don't think that explains his abject performances this season. It is a mystery and I suspect one which will remain until Defoe elects to leave the club.

[Keanoldinho]

I think it should have been TOP club not TOT club ;) .

I'm not entirely sure what JD'd height has got to do with this. Does his lack of height preclude him from doing any hard work or passing the ball to his team mates when inside the last third of the pitch?


Him being so short means he can never be a complete forward and will always be a one dimensional player. In saying that though he can be amazingly good at poaching goals when he decides to focus on that which he is good at instead of trying to become something he's not.

[shoot_ffs]

well owen is only 5'8" and it hasn't stopped him. Defoe is not one dimensional, he just doesn't have height. He finishes well, two good feet, pacey, skillful and clever with regards to his occupying defenders, which is probably his best asset. I think he's been easier to mark this year as the team has been unbalanced and until lennon's upsurge, had few forward outlets to deal with.

[monachello1392]

i want him to stay but if hes not getting any football he probaly go if he does all ican say is good luck he been great for us

[Chinaman]

Strikers are a confidence breed. Everyone catches fire sometime and are in the doldrums at others. That's why we need 4 of them next year.

[Keanoldinho]

well owen is only 5'8" and it hasn't stopped him. Defoe is not one dimensional, he just doesn't have height. He finishes well, two good feet, pacey, skillful and clever with regards to his occupying defenders, which is probably his best asset. I think he's been easier to mark this year as the team has been unbalanced and until lennon's upsurge, had few forward outlets to deal with.


He's good with the ball on the ground, and has nothing to offer in the air. When he focuses on poaching goals he can be lethal, but when he doesn't he may as well stay home. Owen is ok, but I don't rate him as highly as most he was a flop at Real.

[Chinaman]

I think it is beyond doubt that a great majority of Spurs fans want him to stay. It is only a question of whether he wants to stay.

[mjbmedia]

keonoldinho you clearly havent got a clue what you are talking about on this and most other threads that you appear on.
Owen a flop at Real??? they didnt pick him cos their ex president insisted on playing the old glacticos , not cos he didnt score . He scored a great many goals in relation to the minutes he spent on the pitch.

As for your thoughts on Defoe, well clearly you dont like him, hence your name on here, but attitude wise he was no worse than Keane was last season , he had **** Rasiak picked infront of him simply cos hes a lanky git , would you really want him to sit there all humble and take it, he totally belives in himself thats why hes got that sort of attitude , he passes regularly, watch all this seasons goals to see how many he has set up again in relation to how many minutes he spent on the pitch , then come back to us when you know what youre on about.

[AndyHarker]

i can see this ending up in fisty-cuffs!

[GOONHATER]

Jd Has Got To Stay, If We Are Going To Take On Europe Next Season! We Need All Our Strikers And They Have To Know That They Are All First Choice, But For Different Games. Also We Picked Up A Rake Of Injurys Towards The Latter Stages Of The Prem And We Paid For It,let Us Not Make The Same Mistake Again!! Coz Hopefuly We Will Be In 4 Long Competions And We Need A Big Healthy Squad, And Not Selling To Our Rivals So He Can Hurt Us.

[shoot_ffs]

i like that we all have diff opinions, i still can't get over him liking cisse, but i can't dissuade him lol. However i will carry out my threat on cisse if there's any more talk of him coming to us. I just can't let it happen.

[AndyHarker]

must admit i hate the thought of Cisse joining, he's not been too bad for the pool but i just took an instant dislike to him ! Don't know why cus he has scored quite afew this season . I just don't like him!

[TomMcLaren]

I'm going "not overly fussed" as well! :)

[Spur]

To see if Owen was a flop we should look at his goalscoring record, if memory serves correct I remember it as pretty good. I for one would welcome a swap Defoe for Owen. Owen is a great player, simple as.

As for Defoe, he can be great, he isn't always great, and when he isn't he is not a good player, as seen with the last few months I think...

[laspur]

I wouldn't be bothered if we got 10+mil. for Defoe. On the other hand if he is to stay, will Defoe give us another season of frusration in front of goal. I say let's get the money, and sign Gudjohnson.

[AndyHarker]

Godjohnson could be on his way to united, with horse face going the other way! It is only a rumour, and i can't really see Ferguson or Jose wanting to help each other, but stranger things have happened at sea (and in football)

[laspur]

Heard the same rumour, cant see Fergie letting horsie go to Chelsea.

[Chinaman]

Godjohnson could be on his way to united, with horse face going the other way! It is only a rumour, and i can't really see Ferguson or Jose wanting to help each other, but stranger things have happened at sea (and in football)

You really deify Godjohnson eh?;)

[laspur]

Gudjohnson, would compliment keano,Berbatov and cole nicely in my opinion. Gudjohnson plays lovely thru balls and can bag many goals as well. Plus if needed, he can play midfield. I think he is quality and should be cosidered.

[Keanoldinho]

keonoldinho you clearly havent got a clue what you are talking about on this and most other threads that you appear on.
Owen a flop at Real??? they didnt pick him cos their ex president insisted on playing the old glacticos , not cos he didnt score . He scored a great many goals in relation to the minutes he spent on the pitch.

As for your thoughts on Defoe, well clearly you dont like him, hence your name on here, but attitude wise he was no worse than Keane was last season , he had **** Rasiak picked infront of him simply cos hes a lanky git , would you really want him to sit there all humble and take it, he totally belives in himself thats why hes got that sort of attitude , he passes regularly, watch all this seasons goals to see how many he has set up again in relation to how many minutes he spent on the pitch , then come back to us when you know what youre on about.


Well my bad I didn't know you were romantically involved with Defoe and Owen, but you need to pipe it down a bit there young fella.

Owen is a very good player, but not great and has never scored 20+ league goals in a season. At Real Madrid he made 30 odd appearances and scored 13 goals which is not good enough when you've got Zidane, Beckham, and Figo given you through balls all game.

As for my thoughts on Defoe, well young one I liked the kid alot when he first came even though he's a gooner at heart infact I liked him more than Keano, because he was a young and talented Englishman. This season it's been very clear he's not devoted to the club and is just picking up a paycheck hence his sub standard performances especially when coming of the bench he's been dreadful. He spent the same ammount of minutes as Keano on the pitch maybe even afew more but you already knew that.

Now youngster go pick up all your toys and put them back in your pram before your mum comes home and gives you a good shoen;)

[Keanoldinho]

must admit i hate the thought of Cisse joining, he's not been too bad for the pool but i just took an instant dislike to him ! Don't know why cus he has scored quite afew this season . I just don't like him!

Him being French means most of us yids feel obligated to hate him. I mean England and France were fighting for centuries before ze germans came along and Spurs is English while the scum are French. I just think Cisse could be class, because in his last 2 seasons at Auxerre before moving to scouse land and breaking his leg he was banging them in for fun.

[mjbmedia]

lmao as you keep calling me young one (im 38) you must be pretty old so maybe your eyesight and memories are fading ;-) in that case i'll forgive you for your misguided views ;-)

[shoot_ffs]

there's only one way to settle it FIGHT!! Sorry too much harry hill. I think it's interesting with this defoe thing, i've never heard the pundits on MOTD put defoe down, and they usually bitch about anyone who isn't performing. The fact that kuyt is alledgedly begging to newcastle shows we have our strikers sorted, and also that he's a money grabber rather than a career man. Who in their right mind would go to newcastle when half of europe have been chasing you. What's dutch for dimwit? I'm glad really as i think he's poor value at anything over 8m, and he'll probably go nearly double that.

[Welsh Spur]

I wouldn't be bothered if we got 10+mil. for Defoe. On the other hand if he is to stay, will Defoe give us another season of frusration in front of goal. I say let's get the money, and sign Gudjohnson.

Completely and utterly disagree, Defoe is better than Gudjohnsen, and he will get a better chance next year what with 4 comps to play in.

[Welsh Spur]

Well my bad I didn't know you were romantically involved with Defoe and Owen, but you need to pipe it down a bit there young fella.

Owen is a very good player, but not great and has never scored 20+ league goals in a season. At Real Madrid he made 30 odd appearances and scored 13 goals which is not good enough when you've got Zidane, Beckham, and Figo given you through balls all game.

As for my thoughts on Defoe, well young one I liked the kid alot when he first came even though he's a gooner at heart infact I liked him more than Keano, because he was a young and talented Englishman. This season it's been very clear he's not devoted to the club and is just picking up a paycheck hence his sub standard performances especially when coming of the bench he's been dreadful. He spent the same ammount of minutes as Keano on the pitch maybe even afew more but you already knew that.

Now youngster go pick up all your toys and put them back in your pram before your mum comes home and gives you a good shoen;)

Owen's Real Madrid record:

Starts 16
Goals 11
Sub appearances 11

I think that's a brilliant return for a player who's confidence must have been shot to pieces as he tried his best, did nothing wrong, and became the victim of footballing politics. Also I think it's worth noting that he was sold for Double what RM paid, even if it was to Newcastle.

P.S Defoe is great, we need to keep him!

[shoot_ffs]

also owen was returning from injury many times for real, as he usually does.

[Chinaman]

The England squad could get pretty thin if the injury-returnees are not in shape in time or break down. Arsely Cole, Owen and Rooney. ****ball is totally off pace.

[Welsh Spur]

Campbell won't be first choice, and apparently the squad are all looking 'sharp'.

[shoot_ffs]

enjoyed watching walcott and lennon beat john terry on the SSN clip, robbo saved walcott's shot tho lol. terry was pissing himself at how quick walcott was tho.

[Keanoldinho]

Owen's Real Madrid record:

Starts 16
Goals 11
Sub appearances 11

I think that's a brilliant return for a player who's confidence must have been shot to pieces as he tried his best, did nothing wrong, and became the victim of footballing politics. Also I think it's worth noting that he was sold for Double what RM paid, even if it was to Newcastle.

P.S Defoe is great, we need to keep him!


Statistics bottom of the page;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Owen#Statistics

[Keanoldinho]

lmao as you keep calling me young one (im 38) you must be pretty old so maybe your eyesight and memories are fading ;-) in that case i'll forgive you for your misguided views ;-)

Well act like it then instead of actn like your 3 and throwning a hissy fit because I said Owen is overrated and Defoe was shite last season

[laspur]

Completely and utterly disagree, Defoe is better than Gudjohnsen, and he will get a better chance next year what with 4 comps to play in.
Welsh Spur I hope you are right, because Defoe wins the underachiever award in my eyes. If we dont sell Defoe, he better deliver the goods. Nothing would be worse than another shitty season and his value dropping.

[Spur]

Owen is a great player. Defoe is Defoe.

[Keanoldinho]

Owen is a great player. Defoe is Defoe.


I'll agree with you Owen is a top quality player, but he never should of left Liverpool

[mjbmedia]

Well act like it then instead of actn like your 3 and throwning a hissy fit because I said Owen is overrated and Defoe was shite last season
lol i didnt throw a fit, i just told the truth from my opinion , opinions can differ, live with it.
Youre the one who got personal so what does that tell everyone ?

[JJ]

You're haven a laugh mate. Most of the top clubs in Europe have probably never heard of him. Name any top club who has a striker that's 5'7''?

Barce have Eto'o, Real have Robinho, Inter have Martins, Juve have Del Piero. They're all relatively small by todays standards, yet are all highly sought after. I don't see where height ever became an issue.

It's not as if Romario, Stoichkov and players like that were ever powerhouses.

[JuicE]

Sorry to go against the majority but i reckon we should cash in on him while we can. Let him go and enjoy his football somewhere he really wants to play.

[Welsh Spur]

I believe he wants to play here. He hasn't handed in a transfer request or publicly stated that he wants to play elsewhere. We have to keep him, I will be gutted to see him go. I really think that if Defoe never joined this club we wouldn't have made as much progress as we have, in his first season he was uncontrollable, slammin them in for fun, and this season his presence has not only brought some (i know its a small tally) important goals and look what the competition did to Keane.....

[shoot_ffs]

that's a good point about pressuring the other strikers, which is a compliment to the strikers aswell as the coach. look at liverpools strikers bitching and ruud spitting his dummy out because now he has some competition. I think there was a lot of progress in the players mentality last year, king stopped looking worried, and keane and defoe wanted to play for the team. There was a lot of talking or signing with the bench during games to change tactics, and the players seem to enjoy being empowered if that's the right word. I expect to see more progress as jol stamps his mark on the team this year.

[mjbmedia]

good points in the last two posts, agreed

[highlander]

if he wanted to go then he would have said something by now. remember when West Spam went down and he handed in his transfer request the next day. that hasnt happened or anything of the sort so i think he'll stay.

[Chinaman]

And if this thing about Liverpool's interest in Kuyt is true, they may be off his trail also.

[Chinaman]

Actually with all the speculation about Defoe going; should it happen, perhaps the ideal thing is to swap him direct for Robben.

[Keanoldinho]

lol i didnt throw a fit, i just told the truth from my opinion , opinions can differ, live with it.
Youre the one who got personal so what does that tell everyone ?


take your own advice ya ******;)

[mjbmedia]

yeh resort to insults, just shows youre losing the argument , im above that

[Keanoldinho]

yeh resort to insults, just shows youre losing the argument , im above that

I'm not arguing just stating my opinion and I'll never lose that :p

[spurs61]

Can you ladies carry out your lovers tiff on another link please, it was amusing at first but a bit tedious now, sorry for sticking my oar in.;)

[mjbmedia]

I'm not arguing just stating my opinion and I'll never lose that :p
that goes for your virginity too then :D

right thats it no more.

[Keanoldinho]

that goes for your virginity too then :D

right thats it no more.


I thought you were above insults, I guess you're just confussed

[mjbmedia]

no couldnt resist it to be honest mate, anyway enough, its been fun , well ,sort of , truce.

[shoot_ffs]

no save it for a day when there's no spurs news. there might come a day when we're not linked with someone. I'm taking it that the cole deal is gonna happen, seeing as neither club has denied it.

[JuicE]

I thought you were above insults, I guess you're just confussed

Would you two please swap email address's and maybe meet up for a beer? :eek:

[Welsh Spur]

I found it very entertaining, like when the scum infiltrated our board!

[mjbmedia]

I found it very entertaining, like when the scum infiltrated our board!
oiiiii dont compare us to that shite

we was both posting with smiles on our faces anyway :)

[Chinaman]

With faked animosity very much like professional wrestling?

[Welsh Spur]

Well I think it's clear what Spurs fans want. I hope you're reading JD....