Jol To Leave This Week?

[TURKISH]

Just thinking if spurs were going to sack jol this season wouldn't it be best suited now? Forget results ect ajax manager has confirmed he is in talks with chelsea, so that leads leads ajax to get there main target .....jol.

And that could all be done this week. Now im not jol's biggest fan of late but if we can't get the man we want then i want jol to stay as i do feel it would be risky.

I can't see us getting the manager we want now, but if we can i hope its jose.

[peterc]

Just thinking if spurs were going to sack jol this season wouldn't it be best suited now? Forget results ect ajax manager has confirmed he is in talks with chelsea, so that leads leads ajax to get there main target .....jol.

And that could all be done this week. Now im not jol's biggest fan of late but if we can't get the man we want then i want jol to stay as i do feel it would be risky.

I can't see us getting the manager we want now, but if we can i hope its jose.

Mate, sorry to tell you this, but it ain't going to happen, it's a wasted thread.

[TURKISH]

Mate, sorry to tell you this, but it ain't going to happen, it's a wasted thread.

Im not saying i want it to happen im just saying with whats going on behind close doors, the results and the ajax job which looks to be vancant this week, could leave the board with an opportunity to get rid.

I only want rid of jol if we can get jose.

Not a wasted thread peter mate jol has been shocking this season and not to mention last season.

[peterc]

Im not saying i want it to happen im just saying with whats going on behind close doors, the results and the ajax job which looks to be vancant this week, could leave the board with an opportunity to get rid.

I only want rid of jol if we can get jose.


Do you seriously think that Jose will come to Spurs when the board are renowned to butt into the manager's plans. I doubt it,

Not a wasted thread peter mate jol has been shocking this season and not to mention last season.


Just rememeber where we finished in the premiership and good runs in the cups and Europe, all in two seasons as manager and that was not good enough, we have not had so much success in the last ten years, but still not good enough, you guys just make me laugh.:D

[TURKISH]

Just rememeber where we finished in the premiership and good runs in the cups and Europe, all in two seasons as manager and that was not good enough, we have not had so much success in the last ten years, but still not good enough, you guys just make me laugh.:D

Results don't lie. Last season the way we went out of the cups was disgusting. We conceded the most goals last season apart from the bottom 3 and if it wasn't for our strikers than we would of not of finished 5th.

We spend money like the top 3 but yet we play like the bottom 3. I respect your opinion peter and only time will tell.

[peterc]

Results don't lie. Last season the way we went out of the cups was disgusting. We conceded the most goals last season apart from the bottom 3 and if it wasn't for our strikers than we would of not of finished 5th.

We spend money like the top 3 but yet we play like the bottom 3. I respect your opinion peter and only time will tell.

Time will tell and I think that quite a few of you might be surprised with the outcome.

[Defoe8]

A weakness he has is not learning from his mistakes and unwillingness to take calculated risks.

[mjbmedia]

how you say that Defoe??

V Fulham away he made a defensive subs to hold onto lead, it didnt work. V Liverpool he made a more positve sub, no defensive substitution , if you like he learned and changed, it still didnt work but we were not being overrun at the end , just bollox that Torres scored.
People say he could have broken game up with two more subs towards the end, yes in hindsight but at the time the biys on the field were doing very well thankyou so who would he have taken off and for whom?? The front two were working well, the only one he could have subbed really was Mal , cos Zok and JJ were breaking things up well and leave the defence alone at the end, yet Mal for who?? Hudd would have taken 10 minutes to even get into the game, Defoe would have unbalanced a nice looking outfit.

[proto]

i have to say even though i fairly recently succumbed to the Jol must go(if theres a genuine step up replacement only) crowd - in the last couple of matches some of his mismanagement, as i saw it, has been redeemed.

as mjb said, away from home he didn't completely go negative with a 1 goal lead. maybe he can learn

he played KPB finally and all those with "PLAY KPB" placards i hope would have quickly hidden them, because like Jol said, he didn't look at all ready for the prem (and i don't buy the jackass argument he was played out of position.. he didn't stay out wide at all match, rather he stayed pretty central)

i'm certainly not re convinced by Jol, now we have his masochistic faith in robbo, some of our squad shortcoming must be at least partially his responsibility and we should remember that the hint of bite we are now showing is easier to find when backs are against the wall. i just think our problems run deeper than an allegedly inept manager. somethings not right with the DoF role and successful input, theres training issues for sure and Jol is in no position anymore to rock that boat thanks to.... (and) the board have behaved disgracefully at times (they're not wrong to be looking for better managers, its wrong to not constantly assess were improvements can be made, but do so without publicly undermining what they currently have). in a way Jol is the common factor in our problems on the face of it, but its easy to forget when we all believe we know tactics better than him, that maybe whats really wrong here is our expectations are built on speculation. case in point, mr huddlestone, who has shown brilliance at times, but is somehow a key member of the squad when he wouldn't make the subs bench of a top4 club TBH. somehow we should be showing top4 consistancy when we have a squad built on potential with only... what... 4? finished article players? i could write a list but i won't, but if i did i could list the positives and negatives of every player in the squad and almost everyone of them would honestly have as much negative as positive or more.

bottom line, coulds don't = shoulds. the best managers can have shit periods, results don't tell the whole story and football "is a funny old game". We could have a better manager than Jol and as a fan i demand we have the best we can get... but with everything in consideration, the turnaround people want to see could easily happen without major changes, and it could easily happen with massive manager and squad and board changes, but might not. the only thing you can be sure of is that you can't be sure of anything (as much YOU think you KNOW). with the glorious power of hindsight BMJ has fumbled the ball as much as robbo tactically, selection-wise etc, i'm not disputing that. but i'm not gonna kid myself, Jol being replaced this week, robbo being dropped, or even something i personally believe would be great, kaboul becoming a DM or buying steven gerrard - none of these things are necessarily going to make things better, they only could. change needs to happen, we're only out of the bottom 3 on score difference, but don't anyone kid themselves sacking the manager will cure the rash, it'll just scratch it, because the rash is caused by a combination of things, some aren't even in our hands.

[shakey18]

i have to say even though i fairly recently succumbed to the Jol must go(if theres a genuine step up replacement only) crowd - in the last couple of matches some of his mismanagement, as i saw it, has been redeemed.

as mjb said, away from home he didn't completely go negative with a 1 goal lead. maybe he can learn

he played KPB finally and all those with "PLAY KPB" placards i hope would have quickly hidden them, because like Jol said, he didn't look at all ready for the prem (and i don't buy the jackass argument he was played out of position.. he didn't stay out wide at all match, rather he stayed pretty central)

i'm certainly not re convinced by Jol, now we have his masochistic faith in robbo, some of our squad shortcoming must be at least partially his responsibility and we should remember that the hint of bite we are now showing is easier to find when backs are against the wall. i just think our problems run deeper than an allegedly inept manager. somethings not right with the DoF role and successful input, theres training issues for sure and Jol is in no position anymore to rock that boat thanks to.... (and) the board have behaved disgracefully at times (they're not wrong to be looking for better managers, its wrong to not constantly assess were improvements can be made, but do so without publicly undermining what they currently have). in a way Jol is the common factor in our problems on the face of it, but its easy to forget when we all believe we know tactics better than him, that maybe whats really wrong here is our expectations are built on speculation. case in point, mr huddlestone, who has shown brilliance at times, but is somehow a key member of the squad when he wouldn't make the subs bench of a top4 club TBH. somehow we should be showing top4 consistancy when we have a squad built on potential with only... what... 4? finished article players? i could write a list but i won't, but if i did i could list the positives and negatives of every player in the squad and almost everyone of them would honestly have as much negative as positive or more.

bottom line, coulds don't = shoulds. the best managers can have shit periods, results don't tell the whole story and football "is a funny old game". We could have a better manager than Jol and as a fan i demand we have the best we can get... but with everything in consideration, the turnaround people want to see could easily happen without major changes, and it could easily happen with massive manager and squad and board changes, but might not. the only thing you can be sure of is that you can't be sure of anything (as much YOU think you KNOW). with the glorious power of hindsight BMJ has fumbled the ball as much as robbo tactically, selection-wise etc, i'm not disputing that. but i'm not gonna kid myself, Jol being replaced this week, robbo being dropped, or even something i personally believe would be great, kaboul becoming a DM or buying steven gerrard - none of these things are necessarily going to make things better, they only could. change needs to happen, we're only out of the bottom 3 on score difference, but don't anyone kid themselves sacking the manager will cure the rash, it'll just scratch it, because the rash is caused by a combination of things, some aren't even in our hands.

Good post mate:cool: