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SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 11:00 AM
Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

btw where are you watching it ? as I want to watch it today.

spursmadnick06
7th October 2007, 01:10 PM
Here i guess, although it's been pretty hit and miss for me in the past..

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun7.10/Liverpool_Tottenham.html

peterc
7th October 2007, 01:27 PM
I predict Liverpool 1-2 Tottenham Hotspur. COYS

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 01:31 PM
I predict Liverpool 1-1 Tottenham Hotspur. COYS

SurreySpur
7th October 2007, 01:33 PM
Im not feeling confident about this one at all, i'm going for a 3-1 defeat.

I hope im wrong.

Spur
7th October 2007, 01:36 PM
Four nil Liverpool's way.

Welsh Spur
7th October 2007, 01:41 PM
Four nil Liverpool's way.

I hope you are very very wrong, and get slapped around proper for making such a stupid prediction. :p 4-0 ****ing nil, why would you predict that? You'll feel rotten if that's the result. Esp bein as you could have made some money off of it.

Jol's Yid Army
7th October 2007, 01:45 PM
Four nil Liverpool's way.

Ditto, gonna be hammered today

SurreySpur
7th October 2007, 01:49 PM
Its my sister in Laws birthday and were goin out for a drink, its the only time that ive ever been pleased that im missing the game. Ive a few Liverpool supporting mates so i expect they'll kindly keep me informed of the score!!

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 02:12 PM
Here i guess, although it's been pretty hit and miss for me in the past..

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun7.10/Liverpool_Tottenham.html

after this what one do you click on below is it livefooty 1?

Spur
7th October 2007, 02:19 PM
I hope you are very very wrong, and get slapped around proper for making such a stupid prediction. :p 4-0 ****ing nil, why would you predict that? You'll feel rotten if that's the result. Esp bein as you could have made some money off of it.

I hope i'm very wrong as well, although now i've predicted it I may stick a couple of quid on it because you've said that!

We're going to get demolished all over the pitch today.

SurreySpur can I come with you please?

spursmadnick06
7th October 2007, 02:30 PM
after this what one do you click on below is it livefooty 1?

No, it's live footy 9.

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 02:31 PM
We'll play really well create some good chances then Riise will hit a 30 yarder past a hapless Robbo then Kuyt will score too

jrio
7th October 2007, 02:33 PM
Tottenham: Robinson, Chimbonda, Dawson, Kaboul, Lee, Tainio, Jenas, Zokora, Bale, Keane, Berbatov

Subs: Cerny, Malbranque, Defoe, Huddlestone, Gardner

Lennon obviously not fit. Interesting that Defoe is preferred to Bent on the bench. Tainio obviously in for his defensive qualities ahead of Mal.

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 02:36 PM
No, it's live footy 9.

thanks m8 much appreciated...

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 02:36 PM
why we wasted 16mill on him is beyond me he cant even get on the bench now :confused:

spursmadnick06
7th October 2007, 02:38 PM
No, it's live footy 9.

No problem mate, whats your stream like btw? mines really poor atm.

mjbmedia
7th October 2007, 02:41 PM
says on the always reliable :p Tottanham site that Adel is in and not Tainio , yet mentions Tainio being recalled, nice to be able to rely on the club to get it right :rolleyes:

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 02:49 PM
No problem mate, whats your stream like btw? mines really poor atm.

dunno yet m8... mines just got a blank screen... I'll proberbly find out at kick off when we get hammered...

SurreySpur
7th October 2007, 02:50 PM
Oh bollox, thats the front two that i really didnt want Liverpool to start with, torres and Voronin are going to cause us loads of trouble. Im off to the Pub, see you lot later.

denis-cro
7th October 2007, 02:54 PM
Again Tainio as a winger ???? FFS :mad:

Spur
7th October 2007, 02:56 PM
That site is not working for me yet.

Anyone?

shakey18
7th October 2007, 03:02 PM
That site is not working for me yet.

Anyone?

You've got to download the vlc player-the instuctions are at the top of the screen.Not that is great when you do mind....

jrio
7th October 2007, 03:03 PM
Bad weather in Asia affecting all the streams apparently.

shakey18
7th October 2007, 03:14 PM
here we go........ Nice 1 robbo

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:14 PM
here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

corkspur
7th October 2007, 03:14 PM
another robbo **** up!!! Why is he playing?

jrio
7th October 2007, 03:15 PM
What did he do? See it was Voronin after 12 mins.

denis-cro
7th October 2007, 03:16 PM
another robbo **** up!!! Why is he playing?

Because Jol is stupid fat bastard !!!!! SACK HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

corkspur
7th October 2007, 03:17 PM
failed to hold on to a gerrard free-kick and passed it out to voronin.sickening.

shakey18
7th October 2007, 03:17 PM
What did he do? See it was Voronin after 12 mins.

Gerrard free-kick, robbo failed to hold voronin scores.According to tony gale "he's gotta do better than that"

Indianspur
7th October 2007, 03:18 PM
OMG, what is wrong, y does it always have be set pieces

shakey18
7th October 2007, 03:18 PM
I wasn't going to drink but.....**** it

McSpurs
7th October 2007, 03:18 PM
Robbo must have something on Jol. Poor Cerny must think he'll never get a chance. :(

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 03:20 PM
He's ****ing shit **** him off and put him in the reserves until he sorts his arse out the ****:mad:

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:20 PM
we are ****ing useless!!!

Keanoldinho
7th October 2007, 03:20 PM
the beginning of a very long shit day

corkspur
7th October 2007, 03:21 PM
i reckon we are going to struggle to have 20 points by x-mas.

Keanoldinho
7th October 2007, 03:23 PM
I reckon we'll be joint bottom of the league with Derby after todays game lmfao

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 03:23 PM
Why does he not drop players that are clearly out of form?? well he'll lose his job if he carry's on

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 03:23 PM
http://www.asiaplatetv.com/group_8.htm

not working for me :'(

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 03:25 PM
http://www.asiaplatetv.com/group_8.htm

not working for me :'(

seriously dont watch it mate its not worth it

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:29 PM
all i can here is liverpool players names on bbc london...

matthius23
7th October 2007, 03:30 PM
Another Robbos balls up yes, BUT, another free-kick that's gone straight thru the wall and resulted in a goal. The walls gotta do its job just as much as Robbo has. :mad: :mad: :mad:

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:31 PM
why don't we just let them keep ****ing scoring for ****s sake...

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 03:31 PM
TV ants link still buffering for me on blank screen

tvants://list.tvants.com/tvants/?k=d856b5c0f886b73f13d6892ce8465669

it might help some one get it, let me know if it works for you.

denis-cro
7th October 2007, 03:32 PM
Why does he not drop players that are clearly out of form?? well he'll lose his job if he carry's on

I hope today is his last game as a manager....

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:33 PM
wasting our chances again!!!!

shakey18
7th October 2007, 03:33 PM
I hope today is his last game as a manager....

Well with the intenational break coming up it could well be...

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 03:36 PM
omg sounds like they are going to rape us from the radio, come on dm9 or bale get it in there FFS.

choda
7th October 2007, 03:37 PM
The team is looking far more coherent. The units and players are closer together, which gives us hope. Of course all of this was completely undermined when Boobo made a balls of it again.

Jenas is having a good game!

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:38 PM
I'd love it if we won 3 1...

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 03:39 PM
The team is looking far more coherent. The units and players are closer together, which gives us hope. Of course all of this was completely undermined when Boobo made a balls of it again.

Jenas is having a good game!

Basically we've come for the draw and once again robbo ****s :mad:

AssaTM
7th October 2007, 03:41 PM
We really havent come for the draw it's just the balls going to Tainio more than Bale, which just aint gonna work

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:42 PM
Our supporters are strong today

jrio
7th October 2007, 03:46 PM
Well, who saw that coming?

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 03:47 PM
Yes, We've Got To Keep It That Way Now Or Extend It!!!!

AssaTM
7th October 2007, 03:47 PM
KEAAAAAAAANE!, you always got a chance if it's 1-0, remember that lads, no doom and gloom thanks :D

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 03:47 PM
w0000t Robbie Keanooooooooooooo w0000000t, looks like my prediction is doing good, but not the result I want I want the win !

corkspur
7th October 2007, 03:47 PM
well done keano,great time to score

shakey18
7th October 2007, 03:48 PM
Get In! Keano!!

spursmadnick06
7th October 2007, 03:49 PM
Get in!! shame i couldn't see it! has anyone got a decent stream yet??

choda
7th October 2007, 03:50 PM
Well, who saw that coming?

I did actually. :p

I've been impressed with how we are playing. Much better.

Spur
7th October 2007, 03:51 PM
My mate just said we're playing appalling. Doesn't surprise me.

choda
7th October 2007, 03:53 PM
My mate just said we're playing appalling. Doesn't surprise me.

We're not actually. It's okay, much more coherent.

jrio
7th October 2007, 03:56 PM
Our first goal against Liverpool in five games and only the second non-penalty goal they've conceded all season. In Babel, Kuyt and Bennayoun I think they've a lot more dangerous options then we have.

Spur
7th October 2007, 04:00 PM
We're not actually. It's okay, much more coherent.

More coherent than what exactly...

nuttyhotspurs
7th October 2007, 04:02 PM
service to the forwards has been poor but credit to the lads for knockin one in before halftime.

surely we wud be better off playin jenas out wide right and someone else in centre instead of tainio

choda
7th October 2007, 04:05 PM
More coherent than what exactly...

Previous performances. You're not even watching it so don't be giving me jip. ;)

The defence is not too deep and the units are closer together, it's just better.

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:05 PM
That's ****ing unbelieveable.

shakey18
7th October 2007, 04:06 PM
WTF!!!!! Gedin Keano!!!

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:06 PM
w0000t Robbie Keanooooooooooooo w0000000t, w000t THERE IS ONLY 1 KEANO !!!!! w000t come on do a hat trick !!!!

choda
7th October 2007, 04:06 PM
That's ****ing unbelieveable.

......... What is?

Spur
7th October 2007, 04:06 PM
That's ****ing unbelieveable.

What happened?

SSN is on in the other room I hear them say 'Spurs 2-1 down' and then they started laughing!?!?!

choda
7th October 2007, 04:06 PM
Shit it's on and we scored!

****ing unreal.

Now, don't sit back!!!!!!!!

It's been good so far because we have been squeezed up.

corkspur
7th October 2007, 04:07 PM
get in there!!!!! theres only one keano!!!!

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:11 PM
Kaboul sounds like he is doing awesome with dawson.

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:11 PM
That's the sort of thing only Liverpool do - score either side of ht when they're one down. Long way to go. I'm sure Robbo will find some inventive ways to get Liverpool back in the game.

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:14 PM
ahhh FFS JENAS !!! dont shoot if you caint score pass the darn thing !

corkspur
7th October 2007, 04:17 PM
we are going to see some "balls to the wall" defending now i reckon

shakey18
7th October 2007, 04:18 PM
we are going to see some "balls to the wall" defending now i reckon

...whch worries me shitless!

matthius23
7th October 2007, 04:19 PM
Sounds like Berbs has perked up a little this half?

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:22 PM
Babel on for Arbeloa so expect the pressure to be ramped up.

matthius23
7th October 2007, 04:23 PM
And it also sounds like Tainio is a bloody liability... get Malbranque on!

choda
7th October 2007, 04:23 PM
Still doing well, keeping territory and possession.

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:28 PM
Kuyt on for Pennant. Proof that Gerrard is far from fit - Jenas won a challenge against him.

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:30 PM
Is anyone here actually streaming it right now, I am listening to the radio.

shakey18
7th October 2007, 04:30 PM
Is anyone here actually streaming it right now, I am listening to the radio.

Not a thing mate-SSN for me

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:31 PM
Malbranque is comming on now.

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:35 PM
Mal on for Tainio. Doesn't Jol know we never lose if Tainio stays on for 90 mins? :(

Oh Robbo drops a shot from Finnan. What a ****ing clown.

Neil_Vaughan
7th October 2007, 04:36 PM
Apparently Robbo nearly messed up again!

Spur
7th October 2007, 04:37 PM
This keeper of ours is a joke. If he starts next match I will not be happy at all.

shakey18
7th October 2007, 04:38 PM
This keeper of ours is a joke. If he starts next match I will not be happy at all.

...but we all know he will though

Neil_Vaughan
7th October 2007, 04:39 PM
12 minutes left, we've got to hold on - this season it's mostly in the last few minutes we conceed, just like at fulham.

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:40 PM
Been very lucky that most of Liverpool's shots have been wildly off-target. Kudos to Jenas for that latter one, running back 50 yards to pressure Torres.

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:40 PM
Come on spurs 8 and a half minutes !

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:43 PM
Seems as though we've had some good possession and not been under as much pressure as you'd expect from a Liverpool side losing at home in the second half.

corkspur
7th October 2007, 04:44 PM
that **** tony gale is going to jinx us! he said we are about to celebrate a great win! GIT!!!

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:44 PM
Another long range shot from Liverpool but wide again.

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:45 PM
****ing heck BALE rocks !

corkspur
7th October 2007, 04:46 PM
nails almost gone,hair almost pulled out,bricking it!

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:47 PM
Does anyone know if highlights are on tonight of this game ?? I need to watch this, omfg what a bullshit REF NO ****ING FOUL from bale.

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:49 PM
Injury time 3 mins.

Neil_Vaughan
7th October 2007, 04:49 PM
3 minutes added time!!!

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:50 PM
pffft bollocks RADIO goes off bollocks.

jrio
7th October 2007, 04:50 PM
There you go - Torres 2-2. Nailed on.

shakey18
7th October 2007, 04:51 PM
****s Sake

Neil_Vaughan
7th October 2007, 04:51 PM
Just like I said, we always conceed in the last minutes

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:51 PM
what ****ing bullshit shit ass defence !

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 04:52 PM
What did you expect really

corkspur
7th October 2007, 04:52 PM
shit!!!! Torres you bastard!! Im gutted! but we would all have taken a draw before kick off.

AssaTM
7th October 2007, 04:52 PM
It's ALWAYS us SO late on, we've defended so well, then we let them score THAT late on? WHY? WHY!? we've kept Liverpool at bay brillaintly, then they do that, so unlucky

MACCSPURS
7th October 2007, 04:52 PM
call it luck or call it whatever you want....

We just cannot seem to get anything. I really think a 2-1 win away to Liverpool really would have been something but 2-2 now seems like a defeat. Kinda understand how Villa felt after 4-4.

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:52 PM
What did you expect really

A win simple.

MACCSPURS
7th October 2007, 04:53 PM
Result: 2-2

gutted!

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 04:54 PM
Is there any highlights on tonight ? is so channel please thanks, well dissapointed FFS.

denis-cro
7th October 2007, 04:55 PM
Jol is an utter idiot...stupid ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were in the injury time and he had two more substitutes available and he didnīt use any just to buy some time. Stupid **** !!!!!

shakey18
7th October 2007, 04:55 PM
Gutted.Why does this always happen to us?.

choda
7th October 2007, 04:55 PM
Very good performance, but once again undermined by a shocking display of goalkeeping.

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 04:55 PM
A win simple.

what did you get........exactly

AssaTM
7th October 2007, 04:56 PM
Apparently the ref and linesman had a TERRIBLE game, says it all for us really though, we defended REALLY well for all that time, then we let Torres in with an easy header then, so disappointing, but our luck must turn at some point surely, cuz that we NEVER in a million years deserved to draw, NEVER EVER

mjbmedia
7th October 2007, 04:59 PM
scouse ****ing ****s, they only sing when theyre killing , not winning , murdering ****ers.

****ing ******s trash the dump of a shithole city cant make it look any worse than it ****ing does already.

**** OFF LIVERPOOL

corkspur
7th October 2007, 04:59 PM
never a dull moment with those boys from the lane is there?why didnt he use 2 subs to waste a bit of time?

nuttyhotspurs
7th October 2007, 05:00 PM
Very good performance, but once again undermined by a shocking display of goalkeeping.

and the defence switchin off YET AGAIN at the end. no team can afford to do that against a team like liverpool. it was such a shame tho bcoz its the best display from the back 4 since the middle of last season.

sadly i knew it was gona come as soon as i saw 3mins injury time. its just spurs all over.

cant fault the lads commitment in this game. top notch but it still feels like another defeat

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:00 PM
never a dull moment with those boys from the lane is there?why didnt he use 2 subs to waste a bit of time?

our manager's not smart enough to think of such a plan

proto
7th October 2007, 05:01 PM
thieving scousers nicked 2 of our points :mad:

MACCSPURS
7th October 2007, 05:01 PM
Jol is an utter idiot...stupid ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were in the injury time and he had two more substitutes available and he didnīt use any just to buy some time. Stupid **** !!!!!

Such a stupid thing to say, normally when he makes substitutions people are calling him the same for for making the changes.

Let's be honest, did anyone think we would get a draw today let alone be 35 secs away from winning? Personally I thought we were going to get tonked so I am pleased in one respect but when it is that close to a win it is gutting.

SCIFIN17YID
7th October 2007, 05:01 PM
what did you get........exactly

wtf are you talking about, Im sure we all wanted to win, we had that game under raps, but then let them scored in the last minutes :/

Thfc4Life
7th October 2007, 05:01 PM
Jol is an utter idiot...stupid ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were in the injury time and he had two more substitutes available and he didnīt use any just to buy some time. Stupid **** !!!!!

Thats a good point, the top managers all do subs in the last few mins when they are 1 up but I cant recall Jol ever doing that...

corkspur
7th October 2007, 05:03 PM
St James park next up,and Owen is already back in goalscoring form.Dont fancy us to get a win there,maybe a draw.

nuttyhotspurs
7th October 2007, 05:05 PM
Thats a good point, the top managers all do subs in the last few mins when they are 1 up but I cant recall Jol ever doing that...

agreed jol never does it but the only fault from jol today is picking robbo again. the lads did everything right apart from the defence switchin off at the end which cost us a win

shakey18
7th October 2007, 05:06 PM
I think we need to drop Robbo for the next game.If we do i'd be more confident against the barcodes if we did.

Spur
7th October 2007, 05:07 PM
Typical Spurs.

We should be used to it by now.

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:07 PM
There's no way he'd drop calamity robbo and its costing us big style but the defence aren't helping him either

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:08 PM
Typical Spurs.

We should be used to it by now.

i am mate thats why it doesn't hurt as much because its happened so many times im used to it

choda
7th October 2007, 05:08 PM
scouse ****ing ****s, they only sing when theyre killing , not winning , murdering ****ers.

****ing ******s trash the dump of a shithole city cant make it look any worse than it ****ing does already.

**** OFF LIVERPOOL

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?

jrio
7th October 2007, 05:09 PM
I think we need to drop Robbo for the next game.If we do i'd be more confident against the barcodes if we did.

He's not got any better by continuing to play and seems to have become progressively worse. Winning the game would have taken us up to 12th. As it is we'll probably stay 18th.

nuttyhotspurs
7th October 2007, 05:10 PM
St James park next up,and Owen is already back in goalscoring form.Dont fancy us to get a win there,maybe a draw.

on what basis? that newcastle are better than liverpool? on that performance today we would of easily got 3 points from the "mighty" toon

nuttyhotspurs
7th October 2007, 05:11 PM
Typical Spurs.

We should be used to it by now.

ill never get used to it. it hurts more each time

choda
7th October 2007, 05:12 PM
There's no way he'd drop calamity robbo and its costing us big style but the defence aren't helping him either

True, but the place to start is with your keeper. With a keeper playing like he is and being so shakey it undermines your defence so much. They will be feeling shakey themselves by extension and they will not be sure of what to do when the ball comes in because they don't know what the hell Boobo is likely to do.

I think you'll agree the place to start is to get somebody decent in goal and build some solidity from there.

nuttyhotspurs
7th October 2007, 05:15 PM
What are you trying to accomplish with this post?

letting off steam i imagine

berbzy 'G'
7th October 2007, 05:16 PM
Sack Jol
Sack Robinson

... and yes, I mean Sack Robinson, whats the point of selling him, No **** in their right mind would buy him useless prick...

3 minutes of added time, How stupid of us, why try to keep scoring in injury time away from home when your 2 1 up... All the players had to do was pass it around untill we got those precious 3 points... Good ol' Tottenham

We need the manager from the crufts show, atleast he can hold on to a lead...

As soon as Martin Jol loves Robinson so much, He'll take the useless **** with him when he goes to Ajax...

choda
7th October 2007, 05:17 PM
He's not got any better by continuing to play and seems to have become progressively worse. Winning the game would have taken us up to 12th. As it is we'll probably stay 18th.

I know, it would have been a huge boost on many counts. The positive is that he might actually drop Robbo, because he has literally ripped the three points away from Jol's grasp again today.

A win today and more Robbo is worse long-term than Jol finally having enough and making the necessary changes.

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:18 PM
True, but the place to start is with your keeper. With a keeper playing like he is and being so shakey it undermines your defence so much. They will be feeling shakey themselves by extension and they will not be sure of what to do when the ball comes in because they don't know what the hell Boobo is likely to do.

I think you'll agree the place to start is to get somebody decent in goal and build some solidity from there.

Totally your defence has got to have faith in their keeper like liverpool do in reina and celsea with cech! But i gotta say the wall's been shit too BUT robbo commands the wall and he should know that you never palm the ball forward u always palm i to the side.

I expect him to be in the side against newcastle and i really want tainio to be in the middle if he persists in playing him because he's not quick or mobile enough to get up and down that right wing it would have been bette rputting Jenas there.

Jol's Yid Army
7th October 2007, 05:19 PM
Jol is an utter idiot...stupid ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were in the injury time and he had two more substitutes available and he didnīt use any just to buy some time. Stupid **** !!!!!

LOL! very funny denis-cro. Well I've gotta laugh or I'm gonna cry

I take it your not a Jol fan then, lol.

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:19 PM
Sack Jol
Sack Robinson

... and yes, I mean Sack Robinson, whats the point of selling him, No **** in their right mind would buy him useless prick...

3 minutes of added time, How stupid of us, why try to keep scoring in injury time away from home when your 2 1 up... All the players had to do was pass it around untill we got those precious 3 points... Good ol' Tottenham

We need the manager from the crufts show, atleast he can hold on to a lead...As soon as Martin Jol loves Robinson so much, He'll take the useless **** with him when he goes to Ajax...


hahahahahhaa thats proper cheered me up that!!!

Spur
7th October 2007, 05:19 PM
I'm still in shock.

How can they do this to me every week?

I'm so glad I didn't go today, I was thinking about it. It would have hurt more than being there last year for the 3-0 tonking.

nuttyhotspurs
7th October 2007, 05:19 PM
who else was shouting at the tv when robbo gets the ball back with a few mins left and instead of taking his time letting the team settle he just goes and boots the ball straight up the pitch back to reina!! what the ****in hell was the point in that. his head has well and truely gone, hes lost it. DROP HIM NOW!

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:21 PM
I know, it would have been a huge boost on many counts. The positive is that he might actually drop Robbo, because he has literally ripped the three points away from Jol's grasp again today.

A win today and more Robbo is worse long-term than Jol finally having enough and making the necessary changes.

Jol aint got the arsehole to drop robbo, jenas, berbs etc he likes to pick on the others!!

I'd have more respect for jol if he dropped him even if it was for 1 game

choda
7th October 2007, 05:23 PM
Totally your defence has got to have faith in their keeper like liverpool do in reina and celsea with cech! But i gotta say the wall's been shit too BUT robbo commands the wall and he should know that you never palm the ball forward u always palm i to the side.

I expect him to be in the side against newcastle and i really want tainio to be in the middle if he persists in playing him because he's not quick or mobile enough to get up and down that right wing it would have been bette rputting Jenas there.

I agree entirely.

And I think the biggest issue is the set pieces and corners. Robbo doesn't come for anything and it's probably because his technique is so poor when he does. This is a major issue for us as again the defence doesn't get confidence from a dominant keeper that will usually come and collect.

jrio
7th October 2007, 05:23 PM
A win today and more Robbo is worse long-term than Jol finally having enough and making the necessary changes.
Jol's backed him too consistently to change course now, especially as he relies on the support of the fans and the players. Internationals next, and if Robbo doesn't goof badly in them, and McLaren sounds as though he'll be picking him, that will be Jol's reasoning for continuing to pick him.:(

jrio
7th October 2007, 05:26 PM
I'm so glad I didn't go today, I was thinking about it. It would have hurt more than being there last year for the 3-0 tonking.
It's the hope that kills you. Still, an injury-time Liverpool winner would have been even worse, and we did do the same to Villa on Monday.

Looks like we're getting out of the bottom 3 - Pompey 2 up!

choda
7th October 2007, 05:26 PM
Jol aint got the arsehole to drop robbo, jenas, berbs etc he likes to pick on the others!!

I'd have more respect for jol if he dropped him even if it was for 1 game

Yes, probably hopeful thinking, but you never know.

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:28 PM
I agree entirely.

And I think the biggest issue is the set pieces and corners. Robbo doesn't come for anything and it's probably because his technique is so poor when he does. This is a major issue for us as again the defence doesn't get confidence from a dominant keeper that will usually come and collect.

I cant believe what's happening to the man to be honest he's bringing the whole team down with high profile mistakes but yet he still gets played for club and country so its sending out the signals that its ok to **** up for england and spurs because i'll play anyway.

But if James, Green, Carson **** up they'd get dropped and slagged off proper i seriously think robbo's got pics of jol and mcclaren in a comprimising position :rolleyes:

shakey18
7th October 2007, 05:29 PM
McLaren sounds as though he'll be picking him, that will be Jol's reasoning for continuing to pick him.:(

Totally agree mate.I wish McLaren would drop him, then Jol might.

wayne wonder
7th October 2007, 05:30 PM
Least we're not in the bottom 3!!:D

TURKISH
7th October 2007, 05:32 PM
I can't believe what happened, i felt we derserved the win after we scored and played well in all areas. I turned to the bloke next to me and said if we are gonna concede it will be in the 90th minute and i was right :( .

Second half was great and everyone played well but every week im upset, im getting fed up of this bullshit everyday, nothing seems to be going right.:(

MarlowSpurs
7th October 2007, 05:35 PM
Well what a shit week eh, first we go 1-4 down against Villa only to draw 4-4 (it felt like a loss), draw 1-1 with some 2 bit team in uefa (i know we won on agg but it would have been nice to have won) and now today let down by some pie eating fat **** my hands are made of teflon englands no 1 my arse keeper. So we are still 3rd from bottom, 7 points from a possibly 27 and this is progress? We are a club in crisis plan and simple.

MarlowSpurs
7th October 2007, 05:36 PM
Least we're not in the bottom 3!!:D

Only by goal difference if my maths are correct. **** I'm depressed again

jrio
7th October 2007, 06:13 PM
Keane again showing his irritation at being asked about "doing it for the manager" in the post-match interview. Problem is, they're going to keep asking because it's been made clear that the board want to replace him.

Spur
7th October 2007, 06:57 PM
Totally agree mate.I wish McLaren would drop him, then Jol might.

Still wouldn't do anything. Jenas has been out of the last two England squads entirely but still gets picked for us :(

SurreySpur
7th October 2007, 07:06 PM
Right im back from the pub, ive read the BBC reprt but did anyone on here see the game? what were jols substitutions like etc?

peterc
7th October 2007, 07:08 PM
So for those of you who thought that Jol lost his support from the dressing room, think again, cos it seems you sure have got it wrong, anymore excuses to blame Jol today?:cool: .

Spur
7th October 2007, 07:15 PM
So for those of you who thought that Jol lost his support from the dressing room, think again, cos it seems you sure have got it wrong, anymore excuses to blame Jol today?:cool: .

Why would someone be wrong if they said that?

peterc
7th October 2007, 07:18 PM
Why would someone be wrong if they said that?

Obviously you did not see the match Spur, had you seen the game like I did, you would have come back with such a negative comment. Sports 4 live screened just incase you were going to ask.

Spur
7th October 2007, 07:27 PM
Obviously you did not see the match Spur, had you seen the game like I did, you would have come back with such a negative comment. Sports 4 live screened just incase you were going to ask.

Well I wasn't and that doesn't make sense.

The players play for themselves, Keane said it himself that they are not playing for Jol.

As for all those who come out in support of Jol, the latest was Jermain Defoe, who clearly loves him as he's signed so many contracts lately...

Stop being so naive again.

TURKISH
7th October 2007, 08:05 PM
Well I wasn't and that doesn't make sense.

The players play for themselves, Keane said it himself that they are not playing for Jol.
As for all those who come out in support of Jol, the latest was Jermain Defoe, who clearly loves him as he's signed so many contracts lately...

Stop being so naive again.

When did keane say that? I must say second half we played very well, but all the players were committed, i think robbo, chimbonda and tainio were the only ones who had a bad game.

Jenas and zokora we surprisingly good, bale and keano were outstanding. Lee played well i must add.

It seems like daws is the only one defending!

peterc
7th October 2007, 08:09 PM
[QUOTE=Spur;63069]Well I wasn't and that doesn't make sense
So you can comment without seeing the game, that really makes sense.:rolleyes:

The players play for themselves, Keane said it himself that they are not playing for Jol.


Don't twist words around, Keano said that on the pitch its up to the players to perform, might put some sense into some of you who thought differently.

As for all those who come out in support of Jol, the latest was Jermain Defoe, who clearly loves him as he's signed so many contracts lately...
The super striker who expects to start in all games and cannot even deliver against semi professionals and part-timers. Spur, thought you could do better.
Stop being so naive again.

Wonder who is being stubborn and naive?. Recent premiership results are starting to prove a few of you wrong again, similar scenario to last season.

Keep on hoping, Jol ain't going nowhere. End of.

TURKISH
7th October 2007, 08:17 PM
So for those of you who thought that Jol lost his support from the dressing room, think again, cos it seems you sure have got it wrong, anymore excuses to blame Jol today?:cool: .

I watched the game and i must admit the players gave there all during the game. Alot of players impressed me including jj, zokora, lee, daws, bale and KEANO.

I think jol and the boys were unlucky today and robbo looks like hes hit rock bottom. :(

peterc
7th October 2007, 08:21 PM
I watched the game and i must admit the players gave there all during the game. Alot of players impressed me including jj, zokora, lee, daws, bale and KEANO.



They all showed their determination and respect to Jol and the supporters with such a display.

I think jol and the boys were unlucky today and robbo looks like hes hit rock bottom. :(

I agree there mate, we were unlucky not to take all points, Robbo did make a few good saves, so I wouldn't say his confidence has hit rock bottom.

TURKISH
7th October 2007, 08:23 PM
I agree there mate, we were unlucky not to take all points, Robbo did make a few good saves, so I wouldn't say his confidence has hit rock bottom.

Yer he did make good saves but my point is the mistake will still be eating away at robbo. Robbo is making a mistake a game and there leading into goals.

Spur
7th October 2007, 08:33 PM
So you can comment without seeing the game, that really makes sense.:rolleyes:
When did I comment? Please tell me where and what I said...the only thing i've done is asked questions!!! Questions are not comments are they? ****in' dumb-ass mate I cannot believe you sometimes.

Don't twist words around, Keano said that on the pitch its up to the players to perform, might put some sense into some of you who thought differently.
But the real truth emerged as Keane candidly admitted: "Thinking about the manager? We were thinking about ourselves. We were struggling at one stage and as players we have pride".

His words not mine. Jog right on.

The super striker who expects to start in all games and cannot even deliver against semi professionals and part-timers. Spur, thought you could do better.
Did I say it were right or wrong? All I did was prove that because players come out in support publicly of Jol it means **** all. Again, stop being so naive.

Wonder who is being stubborn and naive?. Recent premiership results are starting to prove a few of you wrong again, similar scenario to last season.
Recent Premiership results? What like being 4-1 down at home to a lacklustre side? Lets widen it to drawing with the plumbers shall we. Let's look at our recent PL results then.

W = Win - D = Draw - L = Loss - Most recent first
DDDLDLWLL for a grand total of 7 points. ****ing brilliant.

It's not even about results anyway it's about the performances.

The lack of fight and guts, passion and balls. The fact our passing is terrible and defending is atrocious. That we concede any set-piece in our own half. That our strikers can't finish their dinner and the keeper can't hold onto anything but his fork! Jesus Christ.

Your unreal you really are.

TURKISH
7th October 2007, 08:41 PM
When did I comment? Please tell me where and what I said...the only thing i've done is asked questions!!! Questions are not comments are they? ****in' dumb-ass mate I cannot believe you sometimes.


But the real truth emerged as Keane candidly admitted: "Thinking about the manager? We were thinking about ourselves. We were struggling at one stage and as players we have pride".
His words not mine. Jog right on.


Did I say it were right or wrong? All I did was prove that because players come out in support publicly of Jol it means **** all. Again, stop being so naive.


Recent Premiership results? What like being 4-1 down at home to a lacklustre side? Lets widen it to drawing with the plumbers shall we. Let's look at our recent PL results then.

W = Win - D = Draw - L = Loss - Most recent first
DDDLDLWLL for a grand total of 7 points. ****ing brilliant.

It's not even about results anyway it's about the performances.

The lack of fight and guts, passion and balls. The fact our passing is terrible and defending is atrocious. That we concede any set-piece in our own half. That our strikers can't finish their dinner and the keeper can't hold onto anything but his fork! Jesus Christ.Your unreal you really are.

I think keano means spur that the players are letting themselves down, jol, willl be telling them the same. I don't think this is all about jol i think the players are to blame also. Just of that qoute i don't think you can say the players play for themsleves as keano is as passionate as anyone ans plays for everyone teammates, gaffer, himself and the fans. I think that qoute is trying to take the pressure of jol. (my view :confused: lol)

I agree with with your point at the end, but i must say in peter defence the boys showed passion, guts and balls today.

peterc
7th October 2007, 09:18 PM
I think keano means spur that the players are letting themselves down, jol, willl be telling them the same. I don't think this is all about jol i think the players are to blame also. Just of that qoute i don't think you can say the players play for themsleves as keano is as passionate as anyone ans plays for everyone teammates, gaffer, himself and the fans. I think that qoute is trying to take the pressure of jol. (my view :confused: lol)

I agree with with your point at the end, but i must say in peter defence the boys showed passion, guts and balls today.

I didn't bother answering his post becasue it is made up of false claims and he seems to think all is gloom, but to get a draw from a top four premiership team at, their ground is not good enough for Spur, whom seems to want immediate glory. Wonder who is naive??????.

peterc
7th October 2007, 09:21 PM
By the way Spur did not conveniently add on that towards the end of the interview in Cyprus, Keano also stated that he was sick of these rubbish rumours about Jol.

Spur
7th October 2007, 09:48 PM
By the way Spur did not conveniently add on that towards the end of the interview in Cyprus, Keano also stated that he was sick of these rubbish rumours about Jol.

That wasn't a quote from the Cyprus game, it was a quote from the Villa game.

I couldn't leave it out if it was never in.

I'm sure the whole squad is sick of them. I'm certainly sick of them. The whole fanbase is sick of them. I don't see what point your trying to make.

Spur
7th October 2007, 09:51 PM
I think keano means spur that the players are letting themselves down, jol, willl be telling them the same. I don't think this is all about jol i think the players are to blame also. Just of that qoute i don't think you can say the players play for themsleves as keano is as passionate as anyone ans plays for everyone teammates, gaffer, himself and the fans. I think that qoute is trying to take the pressure of jol. (my view :confused: lol)

I agree with with your point at the end, but i must say in peter defence the boys showed passion, guts and balls today.

One swallow does not make a summer.

No doubt we'll be back to our normal play for our next trip up north.

peterc
7th October 2007, 09:55 PM
One swallow does not make a summer.

No doubt we'll be back to our normal play for our next trip up north.

Go and watch the game and then speak.

Spur
7th October 2007, 09:58 PM
I didn't bother answering his post becasue it is made up of false claims and he seems to think all is gloom, but to get a draw from a top four premiership team at, their ground is not good enough for Spur, whom seems to want immediate glory. Wonder who is naive??????.

False claims? Prove them false..........

A draw against a top 4 side is great for us relegation candidates. I'll say it again, Jol himself said to be the best you have to beat the best. Let's carry on drawing then eh?

jrio, what's our record against the top 4 now? 1 win in how many? wasn't the last count 25?

Immediate glory? How much money have you given the Club over the years Pete? I've given shitloads - less than others here though - and I don't feel i'm getting a decent return for what i've put in. In turn the board don't feel Jol is giving a decent return for what they have put in - and they've put ALOT in. Let's ask KingKeane and Spurs61 if they feel they are getting value for money?

We spend like a top three club but play like we are bottom three - a quote by someone today I thought was very accurate.

Besides, we do actually need immediate glory, otherwise all the glory will be taken up by all the other teams with blank cheques - tell me i'm wrong.

You didn't bother answering my post because you've nothing but crap to answer it with.

peterc
7th October 2007, 09:59 PM
That wasn't a quote from the Cyprus game, it was a quote from the Villa game.

Well , I don't remember Keano saying such things, but also if he did, you seem to have completely mis understood what he meant.

I couldn't leave it out if it was never in.

Knowing the way you put your opinions forward, it would only be obvious to leave certain quotes out.

I'm sure the whole squad is sick of them. I'm certainly sick of them. The whole fanbase is sick of them. I don't see what point your trying to make.

Basically, that you seem to love the gloom and negative reactions that has any effect on Jol or the players.

peterc
7th October 2007, 10:14 PM
False claims? Prove them false..........

A draw against a top 4 side is great for us relegation candidates. I'll say it again, Jol himself said to be the best you have to beat the best. Let's carry on drawing then eh?

Drawing against the best at their home is a different achievement than beating them at home.

jrio, what's our record against the top 4 now? 1 win in how many? wasn't the last count 25?

Thought you wil be able to answer that without anyone's help. Shows your lack of knowledge there Spur.

Immediate glory? How much money have you given the Club over the years Pete? I've given shitloads - less than others here though - and I don't feel i'm getting a decent return for what i've put in. In turn the board don't feel Jol is giving a decent return for what they have put in - and they've put ALOT in. Let's ask KingKeane and Spurs61 if they feel they are getting value for money?

You seem to like to bring in others to defend you Spur, that is a sign of weakness. Jol said he needed four years to bring Spurs to a top four team. He still has another year to go.

We spend like a three club but play like we are bottom three - a quote by someone today I thought was very accurate.


HOWEVER, WE DON'T GET HAMMERED BY LIVERPOOL AWAY AS QUITE A FEW OF YOU PREDICTED.

Besides, we do actually need immediate glory, otherwise all the glory will be taken up by all the other teams with blank cheques - tell me i'm wrong.

We all want glory, but remember Rome was not built in one day, and we have seen improvements in the last two seasons, go on deny that one as well.

You didn't bother answering my post because you've nothing but crap to answer it with.

Sounds very similar to your crap posts and I am sick of your gloom and negative opinions.

jrio
7th October 2007, 10:49 PM
Immediate glory? How much money have you given the Club over the years Pete? I've given shitloads - less than others here though - and I don't feel i'm getting a decent return for what i've put in. In turn the board don't feel Jol is giving a decent return for what they have put in - and they've put ALOT in. Let's ask KingKeane and Spurs61 if they feel they are getting value for money?


Well, they've put **** all in. You can't argue against that. All buys are generated by the club's profits and debt levered against club assets and turnover. If you can prove otherwise I'm a Dutchman - Jan Van Rio.

Mistakenly It's thought that a willingness to spend money on players is a factor of the board or owner spending money. There is no Abramovich, Thai Sinatra, Randy Villa or otherwise spending money on players here. Levy's largely generated money from shrewd buying and selling(like Carrick) and sucking money from fans(z grade UEFA games prices as if we were playing ManU and slick merchandising). The club accounts will show you this. Fans will sell their grandma, mom and the family silver for success. If they sell that and there isn't success then they feel cheated. Ever felt you've been cheated?

Spur
7th October 2007, 11:06 PM
Well, they've put **** all in. You can't argue against that. All buys are generated by the club's profits and debt levered against club assets and turnover. If you can prove otherwise I'm a Dutchman - Jan Van Rio.

Mistakenly It's thought that a willingness to spend money on players is a factor of the board or owner spending money. There is no Abramovich, Thai Sinatra, Randy Villa or otherwise spending money on players here. Levy's largely generated money from shrewd buying and selling(like Carrick) and sucking money from fans(z grade UEFA games prices as if we were playing ManU and slick merchandising). The club accounts will show you this. Fans will sell their grandma, mom and the family silver for success. If they sell that and there isn't success then they feel cheated. Ever felt you've been cheated?

No, your completely right. The point I was putting across was that Jol has had mucho money to spend and we aren't getting any reward from it.

At the end of the day it's mine and your money that goes into Robbo's pocket (I was going to say hand but he'd probably drop it) as well as other Club's coffers.

Spur
7th October 2007, 11:08 PM
I can't answer you Pete.

Your a clown.

TURKISH
7th October 2007, 11:32 PM
False claims? Prove them false..........

A draw against a top 4 side is great for us relegation candidates. I'll say it again, Jol himself said to be the best you have to beat the best. Let's carry on drawing then eh?

jrio, what's our record against the top 4 now? 1 win in how many? wasn't the last count 25?

Immediate glory? How much money have you given the Club over the years Pete? I've given shitloads - less than others here though - and I don't feel i'm getting a decent return for what i've put in. In turn the board don't feel Jol is giving a decent return for what they have put in - and they've put ALOT in. Let's ask KingKeane and Spurs61 if they feel they are getting value for money?

We spend like a top three club but play like we are bottom three - a quote by someone today I thought was very accurate.

Besides, we do actually need immediate glory, otherwise all the glory will be taken up by all the other teams with blank cheques - tell me i'm wrong.

You didn't bother answering my post because you've nothing but crap to answer it with.


I made that quote spur :p . And yer i think it's a fair comment.

TURKISH
7th October 2007, 11:34 PM
Well, they've put **** all in. You can't argue against that. All buys are generated by the club's profits and debt levered against club assets and turnover. If you can prove otherwise I'm a Dutchman - Jan Van Rio.

Mistakenly It's thought that a willingness to spend money on players is a factor of the board or owner spending money. There is no Abramovich, Thai Sinatra, Randy Villa or otherwise spending money on players here. Levy's largely generated money from shrewd buying and selling(like Carrick) and sucking money from fans(z grade UEFA games prices as if we were playing ManU and slick merchandising). The club accounts will show you this. Fans will sell their grandma, mom and the family silver for success. If they sell that and there isn't success then they feel cheated. Ever felt you've been cheated?


Spot on we spend what we generate and that's why its important to spend it well.

TURKISH
8th October 2007, 02:38 AM
Im surprised no one has mentioned this but near the end of the game whilst we were leading 2.1 it must of been 87 minute and reina came out of his goal and tackled bale from behind and they both went down but the ref gave pool and free kick when he looked like he played advangtage for spurs. When reina fouled bale chimbo had the ball and was about to dribble to a empty net with maybe two pool defenders and berbs and keano for support but that **** halsey blew his whistle.

When clearly it was our free kick :mad:

choda
8th October 2007, 02:51 AM
Spot on we spend what we generate and that's why its important to spend it well.

I think we have spent it pretty well, so then it comes back to one person again, doesn't it?

I'm loving having a champagne squad like this. What I'm not loving is how it is being mismanaged.

One point though. Something I've been complaining about for ages was good today, the units were close together and guess what happened? Yes, we looked far better able to defend and keep the ball when we had it. And we were rewarded by this with 2 goals and the best we've defended for a while.

Note I said the best we've defend in a while, not that we defended well because we still had Boobo in goal and still had some basic organisational errors in there.

But anyway that was a really huge point as we didn't wilt in general play and got back in the game and didn't retreat and give up the possession. We were much better as a team.

People often say that the players don't try enough, but I tend to take the opinion that the have to be setup correctly so it is clear whether that are trying or whether it's just too hard for them.

I mean if you are covering gaps all day and regularly can't find a teamate within 20 yards when you have the ball it's going to be a long day. Add bad results to that and there isn't much confidence either.

It's mostly in the details as far as I'm concerned. The manager can pump his fist etc. but if you aren't well setup then that becomes empty over a season.

Another side effect of this better coherency was that our central midfield was much better able to function and I thought Jenas and Zokora, Jenas particulary, had a good game. Jenas looked to have solidity and urgency both on and off the ball for once in his life. Perhaps that came from being in a correctly coherent unit.

So in conclusion can Jol still turn it around? Well, I think he possibly can if he continues to slowly correct some of the errors like he did last season. But scraping a rolls royce squad back into europe is not a great achievement. It passed last year, but that was acceptable for one season. We can't accept another slew of shoddy performances and tactics for the whole season and slowly getting it somewhat right and hoping the likes of Keane will carry us again. Particularly when he's spent another 40 million this summer.

As I said at the start of the year anything less than creating a geniune top five is failure for Jol (meaning we are a serious side that has royal battles and some wins against the other top sides and notches up 70 odd points). So if he can turn it around and achieve that then I will take my hat off to him and he deserves another crack at it. But even if he managed that, next year what's the money he'd start with Boobo, Jenas, two cms out wide, playing with gaps between the units and blaming his strikers again (even though they are getting bugger all service) after we have 4 points from 8 games. :confused:

TURKISH
8th October 2007, 03:26 AM
I think we have spent it pretty well, so then it comes back to one person again, doesn't it?

I'm loving having a champagne squad like this. What I'm not loving is how it is being mismanaged.

One point though. Something I've been complaining about for ages was good today, the units were close together and guess what happened? Yes, we looked far better able to defend and keep the ball when we had it. And we were rewarded by this with 2 goals and the best we've defended for a while.

Note I said the best we've defend in a while, not that we defended well because we still had Boobo in goal and still had some basic organisational errors in there.

But anyway that was a really huge point as we didn't wilt in general play and got back in the game and didn't retreat and give up the possession. We were much better as a team.

People often say that the players don't try enough, but I tend to take the opinion that the have to be setup correctly so it is clear whether that are trying or whether it's just too hard for them.

I mean if you are covering gaps all day and regularly can't find a teamate within 20 yards when you have the ball it's going to be a long day. Add bad results to that and there isn't much confidence either.

It's mostly in the details as far as I'm concerned. The manager can pump his fist etc. but if you aren't well setup that becomes empty over a season.

Another side effect of this better coherency was that our central midfield was much better able to function and I thought Jenas and Zokora, Jenas particulary, had a good game. Jenas looked to have solidity and urgency both on and off the ball for once in his life. Perhaps that came from being in a correctly coherent unit.

So in conclusion can Jol still turn it around? Well, I think he possibly can if he continues to slowly correct some of the errors like he did last season. But scraping a rolls royce squad back into europe is not a great achievement. It passed last year, but that was acceptable for one season. We can't accept another slew of shoddy performances and tactics for the whole season and slowly getting it somewhat right and hoping the likes of Keane will carry us again. Particularly when he's spent another 40 million this summer.

As I said at the start of the year anything less than creating a geniune top five is failure for Jol (meaning we are a serious side that has royal battles and some wins against the other top sides and notches up 70 odd points). So if he can turn it around and achieve that then I will take my hat off to him and he deserves another crack at it. But even if he managed that, next year what's the money he'd start with Boobo, Jenas, two cms out wide, playing with gaps between the units and blaming his strikers again (even though they are getting bugger all service) after we have 4 points from 8 games. :confused:

I good post which i was nodding all the way through, i felt jj and zokora today played well togeather, zokora was winning everything apart from headers but made up for it with the second ball. JJ worked his socks of especially when he got a corner for us out of nothing :D .

I was happy today but your right choda next year even if we have jol in charge nothing will change we will still play with cm out wide and still concede stupid goals.

I hope jj and zokora will bring this performance to st james park.

Choda at the start of the season you said you felt bent was better than keano do you think that now? Because as you we have seen he has been top draw. (didn't bring that up to have a pop) I feel keane is one of our untouchables now. Two great finishes today and he seems to finish every chance his getting now days.:D

choda
8th October 2007, 04:46 AM
I good post which i was nodding all the way through, i felt jj and zokora today played well togeather, zokora was winning everything apart from headers but made up for it with the second ball. JJ worked his socks of especially when he got a corner for us out of nothing :D .

I was happy today but your right choda next year even if we have jol in charge nothing will change we will still play with cm out wide and still concede stupid goals.

I hope jj and zokora will bring this performance to st james park.

Choda at the start of the season you said you felt bent was better than keano do you think that now? Because as you we have seen he has been top draw. (didn't bring that up to have a pop) I feel keane is one of our untouchables now. Two great finishes today and he seems to finish every chance his getting now days.:D

Oh no, I would have never said that mate. I said he was better than Defoe. I said he could be as good as Keane in his own way, possibly, because he's got such power, pace and movement. But Keane is a smashing player, I've always said that. And the way he responds to challenge is to just get better and better.

I think Keane is one of the most underated players in the world and has been for some time (he's actually he's very highly rated in europe). He links the play very well, drops off, goes behind, always finds the pockets of space, anticipates, has a magic touch and is a class finisher as proven by his record for spurs and for Ireland where he's always gotten a fair crack.

I think movement up top is very important, but a lot of people don't notice it and Keane's as good as anybody you will see for movement. He's incredibly clever and has a bit of pace to use his quick brain.

I've always said he's on a different level to Defoe and the way he is responding to Bent coming in, by getting even better, I think Bent will have to become world class to replace him. And to be honest I can't see that happening any time soon.

If Keane isn't world class then he can't be far away. People may think that is overstating it saying he's gotten even better this year, but I don't think it is at all. The team has been in horrible form and the service has been poor, but Keane has had some good form within that. He's the only forward who looks sharp for us and is really involved in getting the team playing as well. I've been very impressed with his overall play. He's top of the strikers in the fantasy premier league for God's sake and we are 17th in the league.

peterc
8th October 2007, 08:17 AM
I can't answer you Pete.

Your a clown.

I'd rather be a clown and cheer people than be all gloom and give constant negative opinions.:p

Spur
8th October 2007, 08:31 AM
I'd rather be a clown and cheer people than be all gloom and give constant negative opinions.:p

Your a clown that just pisses people off.

peterc
8th October 2007, 12:25 PM
Your a clown that just pisses people off.


Spur this forum is supposed to be for mature adults, wonder how you managed to sneak through the net. Neil can I suggest we start a kiddies forum mainly for Spur so he won't feel left out.:D

SurreySpur
8th October 2007, 01:20 PM
Im sure we wont be the only ones to be robbed by scousers this season!!

Gino Ginelli
8th October 2007, 03:39 PM
I simply couldn't be arsed to keep awake to watch the Football First extended highlights, so had to make do with the MOTD 2 ones. Which is essentially just all the chances Liverpool had along with our goals as a side note, seeing as BBC Football is just a big Scouse frat party these days.

But even so I got the impression that we played pretty well, and the general consensus was that it was our best performance of the season so far next to the Man Utd game. It shows that the Villa comeback was a turning point for us, and we're showing our quality against the top 4 (bar Gooners). The next 6 games are usually all winnable(sic) as well, which is possible I believe, with Jenas (just) holding his own against Stevie G, Keane coming alive at last, and Bale being totally money.

A few points I'll make from what I saw.

1) Both goals came from the route 1 (Robbo express). Big punt up pitch, big man flicks it on, little man slams it in. This is a tactic(?) we've implemented many a time in the past, most notably the Mido/Keane combo against Fulham last year. But surely this isn't the most cunning our attacking tactics can stretch to is it? Great to watch but leaves me strangely cold at the lack of inventiveness.

2) So now we have genuine width on the left in Bale. But now we play a DM on the RW? Huh? Are we only allowed one winger at a time, no kind of balance? Surely Lennon/Taraabt/Routledge could have done something rather than Tainio who probably (and I'm guessing cos I didn't see enough) went central and deep for most of the game. Funny that him being a CENTRAL DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER N'ALL!!

3) The Torres goal. Now don't get me wrong, he's an outstanding player, and tore us a new one on a number of occasions. But I imagine it'd be easier to win a header against him if Dawson and Chimbonda didn't jump into each other like that. Someone didn't shout, or both did. Basically a lack of communication and discipline at the back. Everyone bangs on about Chimbo's ability in the air, but he's actually fairly ineffective. Dawson would have probably won that header with Torres if he'd been free to. But hey, hindsight and all that...

4) Robbo. He's having a stinker this year isn't he? Christ on a bike, any more goofs like this and he'll crumble. If he's to be dropped it has to be on the understanding it's for him to get his head right. Confidence/Focus/Concentration are vital to a goalie, and even more than a CF, if they're hot they're hot. But a bad streak can send you spiralling. I think we should stick with him, let him know he's still our No 1. and he'll get it back. Please don't let him turn into a David James; great shot stopper but reactions/decisions of a Bat with earplugs.

Anyway, bitter to have 2 points nicked off us at the end, but the Liverpool are a bit like Manure in that respect. Suprised Jol didn't use those 2 subs at all. Throw a defender on and maybe a midfielder and it might have wasted time, or solidified us. Hell if we'd suddenly gone offensive it would have stretched them right out for a couple of minutes. But a point at a ground where we normally get stuffed is positive to me, and I think we've finally got a firm grip on a rung of the league ladder before we drop off the bottom altogether. Give it another game for them steady themselves, get confidence and the old rythmn back and we'll start the gradual climb back up.

5th place is out of sight now, Man City are gonna get that I reckon. But this is a good time to regain ourselves as we can put a great cup run together somewhere now. May be our only way into UEFA, and keeping Berba/Bale.

RuFuS
8th October 2007, 04:41 PM
Rules for Spurs playing Liverpool @ anfield
1 They will always score
2 They will always score in the last minite
3 That's the amount of goals Spurs need to be sure of winning.

Would i have taken a draw before the game ? You bet i would because we were never going to score 3. Still gutted though :(

Spur
8th October 2007, 07:56 PM
Rules for Spurs playing Liverpool @ anfield
1 They will always score
2 They will always score in the last minite
3 That's the amount of goals Spurs need to be sure of winning.

Would i have taken a draw before the game ? You bet i would because we were never going to score 3. Still gutted though :(

Why not? Only team to score three at the Bridge under Mourinho!

TURKISH
8th October 2007, 08:05 PM
[QUOTE=Spur;63181]Why not? Only team to score three at the Bridge under Mourinho![/QUOTE

Yer and still **** it up!:mad:

irishspur
8th October 2007, 10:40 PM
I predict Liverpool 1-2 Tottenham Hotspur. COYS

Almost right mate.:(

peterc
8th October 2007, 10:53 PM
Almost right mate.:(

So close and yet so far. We need to hold possession towards the end.

irishspur
8th October 2007, 10:54 PM
Jol is an utter idiot...stupid ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were in the injury time and he had two more substitutes available and he didnīt use any just to buy some time. Stupid **** !!!!!

Jesus youre gettin on my nerves. Did he do ur girlfriend of sumfin?????????:rolleyes:

irishspur
8th October 2007, 10:55 PM
So close and yet so far. We need to hold possession towards the end.

We also need 2 drop robbo, he has become indefencible.

singapore spur
9th October 2007, 03:51 AM
in the cold light of day a draw at anfield was very good , though it was bitterly disappointing to loose a goal in injury time .
those that have criticised jol's decision not to make some subs to waste time may have a point, though i thought we were looking comfortable and can see the logic in not upsetting the side when we were obviously going to be put under pressure in the final 10 mins or so , if he had changed it and we had let in a goal the howls of protest and ridicule would be a lot worse .
it did bemuse me that rather than trying to keep possesion robbo hoofed the ball at the earliest opportunity thereby giving the ball straight back to pool , another sign of bad decision making but anyone that comes on here and starts calling robbo and jol c##ts and to feck off really should take a deep breath and remember that they are spurs and even though its not working they are giving their all and not hiding .
i think the game prooved that bale's future is as an attacking left mid/wing and looks so much more at ease with a defensive left behind him , and again as so many have said tanio is not able to play on either flank .

for what its worth my marks

robbo ..... 5/10 , needs to step down for a bit

chimba ....4/10 , poor game , guess the legal stuff affecting him?? , if we had adequate replacement then drop him for game or two
dawson 7/10 solid game
kaboul 7/10 solid game
lee 7/10 solid game , as a the defence limited liverpool chances quite well

tanio ....4/10 squad layer at best and played out of position , endeavour but no end result
jenas .....7/10 solid
zak.....7/10 solid
bale ....8/10 only inspiration from midfield , looked dangerous , midfield as a whole i thought stifled liverpool rather than dominated but with that line up only to be expected

berby .....7/10 looked brighter than he has , some great touches worked well with keane
keane .....9/10 well taken goals , looked sharp

the difference with this game over previous , we looked tighter as a unit , all worked hard and most importantly we took our chances in a game of few opportunities at either end .

mjbmedia
9th October 2007, 08:07 AM
So close and yet so far. We need to hold possession towards the end.
Or take yellow cards to stop them anyway, anyhow, but not too near the box!!

irishspur
9th October 2007, 11:51 AM
Gardner was the only defender on the bench jol was right not 2 bring him on cuz hes a liability.