mourinho quits

[singapore spur]

according to bbc news , the chelsea boss has quit

mmmmm im sure he wants to stay in england , loves london , where could he go ?????????

[proto]

its just to weird to get my thinking tackle around this quickly

[WelshSpur82]

Any odds on him taking over at the lane ????

[TURKISH]

If this is true get him down here now!

Chelsea are stupid he is a class manager and they mess him about.......

[canadaspur]

its just to weird to get my thinking tackle around this quickly

weird scenes inside the goldmine

[Jol's Yid Army]

If this is true as much as I love BMJ I wouldnt complain if Jose replaced him at WHL.

Who the hell are chelshit gonna get to manage them now?

Dont hate me guys but I went on Chelshit's website and its confirmed by them that he has left.

[TURKISH]

If this is true as much as I love BMJ I wouldnt complain if Jose replaced him at WHL.

Who the hell are chelshit gonna get to manage them now?

Dont hate me guys but I went on Chelshit's website and its confirmed by them that he has left.

Ramos or jurgen will take over i think.

I would love jose to manage us but i can't see it happening. Im still in shock as they have got united at the weekend so lets see how the week plays out.

[Keanoldinho]

lmfao the wheels are starting to fall off a chelski

next up the dumb russian will **** off and they'll be proper ****ed

[choda]

Looks like we may have our man!

He's a class manager, particularly in the first 2 or 3 years it would seem. I think he has his limits after that because his philosophy isn't the best, but he is tactically VERY sound.

He would be perfect for us right now, and the way he talks of the potential at spurs and that we were title challengers this year he may view us as a perfect new club for him. He wouldn't have to up root again and he has the makings of a great team without the pressure of limitless money.

I would be sure that Mourinho would put us back on the map. Get him in now. He's just the man we need.

And hopefully he'd behave decently with us. I was actually begining to warm to him a bit anyway because he has been behaving better of late.

[choda]

lmfao the wheels are starting to fall off a chelski

next up the dumb russian will **** off and they'll be proper ****ed

I doubt it, they will bring in Lippi now who is better than Mourinho.

[Keanoldinho]

I doubt it, they will bring in Lippi now who is better than Mourinho.


Lippi aint better than Mourinho and I very much doubt Mourinho is going to become our new manager. It would be great in my book but he's probably going to Spain or Italy, I think he's had enough of England.

What's his philosophy? Why isn't it the best?

[choda]

Lippi aint better than Mourinho and I very much doubt Mourinho is going to become our new manager. It would be great in my book but he's probably going to Spain or Italy, I think he's had enough of England.

What's his philosophy? Why isn't it the best?

Mourinho is not in Lippi's class. And it is because of his philsophy, it is limited. He is like Cappello in that he can come in and make an big impact, but it dwindles over time becuase it is based on work rate and organisation rather than quality play that endures. Coaches like Wenger, Lippi and Sir Alex endure becuase the players and fans love the football and it is expansive and always seeks to improve and seek better glory.

Mourinho and Cappello in recent years have been very much outclassed when it came to the classy european fixtures. Although they are very sound tactically and have leadership, I would have them below the best coaches that play expansive winning football.

They are probably best suited to an underdog who may get a bit of luck and go all the way. And they can grind out a league campaign with ethic and good players. It may not be great to watch either.

But I'd absolutely love to get Mourinho in to Spurs. He's what we need over the next few years. Who knows what he could do here. He's as good as anyone for the first period.

And I may be wrong about him saying he is more of an impact manager than of the best ever, I don't know. We haven't seen him stay a long at one club, but that's how it would look to me.

[choda]

according to bbc news , the chelsea boss has quit

mmmmm im sure he wants to stay in england , loves london , where could he go ?????????

By the looks of it I'm pretty sure he was sacked rather than that he quit.

[Keanoldinho]

By the looks of it I'm pretty sure he was sacked rather than that he quit.


Nah I think he quit to tell you the truth. I reckon he got tired of the russian thinking he new how to be a manager said ****em and walked.

[Keanoldinho]

Mourinho is not in Lippi's class. And it is because of his philsophy, it is limited. He is like Cappello in that he can come in and make an big impact, but it dwindles over time becuase it is based on work rate and organisation rather than quality play that endures. Coaches like Wenger, Lippi and Sir Alex endure becuase the players and fans love the football and it is expansive and always seeks to improve and seek better glory.

Mourinho and Cappello in recent years have been very much outclassed when it came to the classy european fixtures. Although they are very sound tactically and have leadership, I would have them below the best coaches that play expansive winning football.

They are probably best suited to an underdog who may get a bit of luck and go all the way. And they can grind out a league campaign with ethic and good players. It may not be great to watch either.

But I'd absolutely love to get Mourinho in to Spurs. He's what we need over the next few years. Who knows what he could do here. He's as good as anyone for the first period.

And I may be wrong about him saying he is more of an impact manager than of the best ever, I don't know. We haven't seen him stay a long at one club, but that's how it would look to me.


Mourinho is definately more than an impact manager that doesn't even make sense. Lippi won the world cup with Italy yeah but Italy played shite in afew of them games especially against the US when the ref gave them the game.

When Mourinho is Lippis age he'll have won alot more trophies shit Lippi only won the champions league once and never won the Uefa Cup. Lippis has won 13 pieces of silverware in his career were as a much younger Mourinho has won 12 so far.

[choda]

Mourinho is definately more than an impact manager that doesn't even make sense. Lippi won the world cup with Italy yeah but Italy played shite in afew of them games especially against the US when the ref gave them the game.

You're amazingly stubborn. And just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.

Plus I didn't say he was only an impact manager what I said was that he is maybe more so that than one of the best ever.

Lippi has an amazing record, especially at Juve where he stayed for a long time. And his teams have always been good to watch and dangerous in europe, much like the other Italian Ancelotti.

Do you really want to go down the road of how many times Chelsea and Porto played shite and won?

[Keanoldinho]

You're amazingly stubborn. And just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.

Plus I didn't say he was only an impact manager what I said was that he is maybe more so that than one of the best ever.

Lippi has an amazing record, especially at Juve where he stayed for a long time. And his teams have always been good to watch and dangerous in europe, much like the other Italian Ancelotti.

Do you really want to go down the road of how many times Chelsea and Porto played shite and won?


stubborn, that's rich coming from you

Mourinho is definately one of the best ever he's only been managing for 7 years and already won so much. Lippi has been managing since '89 and only won stuff with a rich Juve team.

[choda]

stubborn, that's rich coming from you

Mourinho is definately one of the best ever he's only been managing for 7 years and already won so much. Lippi has been managing since '89 and only won stuff with a rich Juve team.

What are these points mate? He's won the world cup with Italy, the cl and countless league titles. And I would give him far more credit because he did it at the one club rather than going one place for 2 years and then another. In other words he doesn't get sacked.

Mourinho won a uefa cup and cl with Porto, which was great, and two prems with the richest club of all time. And he couldn't land the cl with chelsea.

This makes him one of the best ever. Hardly. He still has a lot to prove.

He may well do it, but it looks to me like he has his limitations.

But I think he's a super manager Keano, so there isn't major disagreement here. He would be fantasic for spurs. He would probably turn us into title contenders, and probably quicker than Ramos would.

[singapore spur]

you cant knock his record , with a club without funds i.e porto and a club with huge cash i.e chelsea , but have to say the style of football hasnt really appealed to me that much.
maybe circumstances dictated that at porto ( tbh didnt see them play much ) but at chelsea with the squad and money available would have expected a more expansive , exciting team rather than what i saw as a super efficient team grinding out ugly wins .
but hey-ho you cant have everything i spose .
we do need some good organistion , some clearer tactical nous and allied to the flair some of our squad possess it could well be a match made in heaven .

as regards quit or sacked , two massive egos clashed once to often , call it a mutual agreement to part company i reckon .

[Shuggie13]

I'd be very suprised if Levy at least doesn't make an approach. The Jol debate goes on and on, I love the guy, not sure he can takes us further and would be very happy with Mourhinio.

[SurreySpur]

you cant knock his record , with a club without funds i.e porto and a club with huge cash i.e chelsea , but have to say the style of football hasnt really appealed to me that much.
maybe circumstances dictated that at porto ( tbh didnt see them play much ) but at chelsea with the squad and money available would have expected a more expansive , exciting team rather than what i saw as a super efficient team grinding out ugly wins .
but hey-ho you cant have everything i spose .
we do need some good organistion , some clearer tactical nous and allied to the flair some of our squad possess it could well be a match made in heaven .

as regards quit or sacked , two massive egos clashed once to often , call it a mutual agreement to part company i reckon .

Spot on SS.

[choda]

you cant knock his record , with a club without funds i.e porto and a club with huge cash i.e chelsea , but have to say the style of football hasnt really appealed to me that much.
maybe circumstances dictated that at porto ( tbh didnt see them play much ) but at chelsea with the squad and money available would have expected a more expansive , exciting team rather than what i saw as a super efficient team grinding out ugly wins .
but hey-ho you cant have everything i spose .
we do need some good organistion , some clearer tactical nous and allied to the flair some of our squad possess it could well be a match made in heaven .

as regards quit or sacked , two massive egos clashed once to often , call it a mutual agreement to part company i reckon .

I think you can have it all. Look at the clubs that have trophies and class football.

But Mourinho is a class act and what ever our opinion on his style and his possible limitations, he is very tactically sound. There won't be any unfathomable decisions, favouratism (as Ferrera found out), fear, or tactical debacles with him.

If he has limitations they are on a very different level to Jols. He is actually probably the best person suited to putting spurs on the map over the next 2 or 3 years. Go and get this guy Levy, what ever it costs, because he is worth millions!

[singapore spur]

i would prefer to have jol at the head of a winning succesful spurs team though.

[JuicE]

But will he last by not playing the SPurs way? Pretty dull football has eminated from stamford bridge.

Anyhow, he might be a decent manager but what a prize ******! Still better than bloody GG though.

[singapore spur]

latest news is avram grant got the managers role at chelski

[peterc]

If this is true get him down here now!

Chelsea are stupid he is a class manager and they mess him about.......
Similar situation at the Lane, however, Jol has got more bottle to stick it out

[JuicE]

Similar situation at the Lane, however, Jol has got more bottle to stick it out

Will you please give up on this JOl stuff FFS! That's all you ever comment on is MJ! :eek:

[Baleinho]

even though i really wouldnt like to see jol leave the club- jose looks the suited choice.

But what happens if he doesnt get his way 24/7? He is a fantastic manager but i cant see him being loyal if shit hits the fan abit...

We can speculate all day whether he was pushed out of chelski but deep down; we wont know the truth unless its from the man himself.

Things need to change at WHL- after the poor run of results and the constant pressure after the ramos shite, now is the time for change.. before its too late and we end up finishing 8th or lower....

[peterc]

Will you please give up on this JOl stuff FFS! That's all you ever comment on is MJ! :eek:

Why should I give up with Jol?, I am confident that he will turn things around again and prove many of his critics wrong.

[singapore spur]

Similar situation at the Lane, however, Jol has got more bottle to stick it out


similar situation , i would agree ,but i would have thought that mourinho has shown more bottle by quitting , telling abramhovich to stick his job and his interfering lackeys .
im surprised , and to be honest a little disappointed in the man ,that jol hasnt done the same , maybe he is just waiting for the pay out that would come automatically with a sacking

[mjbmedia]

Keanoldhinos right, the wheels are creaking , lets hope theyre at the top of a very steep hill with a sheer 500 ft drop at the bottom of it and all their skank fans strapped into the cart with 600lb of explosives underneath them :D

30000 neathanderals wont be missed.

[peterc]

similar situation , i would agree ,but i would have thought that mourinho has shown more bottle by quitting , telling abramhovich to stick his job and his interfering lackeys .
im surprised , and to be honest a little disappointed in the man ,that jol hasnt done the same , maybe he is just waiting for the pay out that would come automatically with a sacking

Loyalty is the answer, Jol is loyal to THFC, whilst Mourinho was more of a show man, two completely different characters,

[singapore spur]

Loyalty is the answer, Jol is loyal to THFC, whilst Mourinho was more of a show man, two completely different characters,

what makes you say that ? his soundbites in his interviews ?, he comes across well , makes the right noises when talking about his love of the club , but call me a silly old cynic but have heard that from practically every manager , at every club , many before they jump ship to something bigger or better or more financially lucrative ( same with players )

im not saying that jol isnt ,as you say loyal to spurs , i love the blokes style , humour, general demeanour and would wish him all the success at spurs or elsewhere if he goes , but fro someone that strikes me as a proud man as well i think its odd that he hasnt walked . especially if he is forced to play players he doesnt want , sign players he hasnt agreed on , and then the board go behind his back . enough is enough

[choda]

what makes you say that ? his soundbites in his interviews ?, he comes across well , makes the right noises when talking about his love of the club , but call me a silly old cynic but have heard that from practically every manager , at every club , many before they jump ship to something bigger or better or more financially lucrative ( same with players )

im not saying that jol isnt ,as you say loyal to spurs , i love the blokes style , humour, general demeanour and would wish him all the success at spurs or elsewhere if he goes , but fro someone that strikes me as a proud man as well i think its odd that he hasnt walked . especially if he is forced to play players he doesnt want , sign players he hasnt agreed on , and then the board go behind his back . enough is enough

He's a spurs fan and is desperate to do well here, so I think that's the reason, as well as 5 million big ones!

I like Jol too and I wish he was the best man for the job, but sadly I don't think he is.

[cal]

Martin jol strikes me as an honourable man and as such would want to see out any contract he signed with spurs,maybe that is why he wants to stay,you're right insofar as he gives the press what they want to hear but i think he is much more than that and i for one want him to succeed at WHL

[wayne wonder]

Jose wont be coming to the lane anytime soon i'm afraid simply because it'll be the SAME situation that he had at chelshit he'd have here because Damian "Arsescum" Commoli buys the players and you think he'd want to get in that situation again??

Look for Capello to be installed as Chelsea boss very soon or Lippi to be honest!

[singapore spur]

Jose wont be coming to the lane anytime soon i'm afraid simply because it'll be the SAME situation that he had at chelshit he'd have here because Damian "Arsescum" Commoli buys the players and you think he'd want to get in that situation again??

Look for Capello to be installed as Chelsea boss very soon or Lippi to be honest!


as i said earlier avrim grant been made boss at chelski , i was under the impression was a full time appointment , though only sketchy details so maybe just a stop gap

[bocayid]

Directors of football..nice job if you can get it...you skulk behind the scenes,with your own little agenda,suckng up or sucking off the chairman..if the players you bring in are crap..its the managers fault,if they do well you take credit from the chairman...if we want the buck to stop with the manager then the manager should be responsble for all thngs concerning football,at least the first team...I'd love to be a director of footy ..be just like playing Championship mangager on the pc....Mourinho knows that.Jol knows that....its just not as damaging at chelski as long as they have Romans Billions....

also its nice to see those far right bones heads that still follow chelsea having a Jewish chairman and possibly a Jewish manager,at least in the short term...make ur hissing noises now u thick ****s...

[olly27]

As someone has already stated the structure of this football club will not appeal to Mourinho. We are not sure of the exact controls regarding the management and Comoli. For me a manager should have complete say on all footballing matters...and clubs that endorse this, invariably, are more successfull (at least in England).

However he would be a prefect selection at the moment. Would not fear making big decisions and his tactical acumen is at a very high standard. As much as I would love Jol I would be extremely excited if Mourinho came to the club...its a big if though!

[MiloMinderbinder]

Playing Devil's Advocate for a while; Would we really want Mourinho? He is not exactly renowned for his extravagent football is he?! Would the Spurs fans accept substance over style on the pitch?

I think it's quite realistic that we could get Mourinho, a) he's got a young family who are settled in London b) he would love to stick two fingers up at Abramovich by going "down the road" c) he seems so have a decent regard for Spurs. Now there are reasons he wouldn't come as well a) he couldn't attract the type of players to Spurs that he could get to come to Chel$ki e.g. would we be able to get Malouda b) he clearly likes MJ as a bloke (or maybe because MJ gifted him some victories in the past)so would he want to take his job? c) Would he want to work in the current structure?

Oh and Boca, love your point about the Jewish influence at Chel$ki, most of the board is also Jewish, eat that you NF scum at the Bridge! Hey in point of fact let's sell a "Mourinho in anti-Semetic quit shocker" to the NOTW.

[singapore spur]

Playing Devil's Advocate for a while; Would we really want Mourinho? He is not exactly renowned for his extravagent football is he?! Would the Spurs fans accept substance over style on the pitch?

I think it's quite realistic that we could get Mourinho, a) he's got a young family who are settled in London b) he would love to stick two fingers up at Abramovich by going "down the road" c) he seems so have a decent regard for Spurs. Now there are reasons he wouldn't come as well a) he couldn't attract the type of players to Spurs that he could get to come to Chel$ki e.g. would we be able to get Malouda b) he clearly likes MJ as a bloke (or maybe because MJ gifted him some victories in the past)so would he want to take his job? c) Would he want to work in the current structure?

Oh and Boca, love your point about the Jewish influence at Chel$ki, most of the board is also Jewish, eat that you NF scum at the Bridge! Hey in point of fact let's sell a "Mourinho in anti-Semetic quit shocker" to the NOTW.


judging by a lot of comments since this site started , i think most spurs fans would take substance over style for a season or two , i would , if only to get this ridiculous monkey off our backs of being constant underachievers with a soft belly .

as regards attracting players , wouldnt he be an attraction for top players himself so i dont know if that would be an issue .
b) i dont know if that is an issue for professionals and doubt a grudge would be held by jol .
c) could well be an issue , but if levy sides with comolli over a prooven successful premiership manager , then he is a tit and should be taken out of the picture as well

[choda]

Do we really think some guy from France with extensive networking contacts buys our players?

What gives him the authority to be the veto on spending millions on footballers?

It doesn't make much sense for that to be true. Yet some of you persist with the idea that it is a fact that the director is buying the players and handing them to our poor manager.

Is Jol that weak? He does not appear to me to be a man that would accept a farcical job. Not to mention his quotes that are being totally ignored by people who are taking pure idle speculation as gospel instead of everything the club and Jol himself say on the matter.

And of course there is the issue of how careful we are with money. I'd be truly bedazzled if we were that inefficient with millions of pounds given the way we hardball everything.

That isn't to say they aren't arguing over something or other. And it isn't to say there aren't some high profile clubs that have directors that go over the head of the manager. I just don't think it happens here and I'm amazed that some treat it like it's an accepted fact.

[wayne wonder]

Totally off the sunbject i was watching revista la liga the other night and that Guillem Balague said the reason juande ramos will and has been overlooked for barca and madrid jobs is because they see him as a fantastic coach(number2) and only a decent manager which i find interesting.

Apparently he was a coach at barca before didn't even know that at all then they had an interview with Ramos who basically laid it on the line and said he follows english footie and will manage here

[SurreySpur]

Did anyone else hear that Prime-minister Gordon Brown issued a statement praising Mourinho.....how ridiculous is that?

[MiloMinderbinder]

Do we really think some guy from France with extensive networking contacts buys our players?

What gives him the authority to be the veto on spending millions on footballers?

It doesn't make much sense for that to be true. Yet some of you persist with the idea that it is a fact that the director is buying the players and handing them to our poor manager.

Is Jol that weak? He does not appear to me to be a man that would accept a farcical job. Not to mention his quotes that are being totally ignored by people who are taking pure idle speculation as gospel instead of everything the club and Jol himself say on the matter.

And of course there is the issue of how careful we are with money. I'd be truly bedazzled if we were that inefficient with millions of pounds given the way we hardball everything.

That isn't to say they aren't arguing over something or other. And it isn't to say there aren't some high profile clubs that have directors that go over the head of the manager. I just don't think it happens here and I'm amazed that some treat it like it's an accepted fact.

I think it's pretty clear what happens vis a vie buying players; Jol tells Commoli what he needs/wants (refer to Maslow's hierachy for the differences between wants and needs) and Commoli goes out to try to sign the appropriate player(s). Commoli is separately charged by Levy with identifying and bringing in talented youngsters, e.g. KPB. People will use Bent as proof that Jol had a signing foisted on him, maybe but there is good reason, Berba will be off unless we are succesful this season (a trophy or CL) and thus we have a replacement (?) already at the club.

[MiloMinderbinder]

[QUOTE=singapore spur;60871]judging by a lot of comments since this site started , i think most spurs fans would take substance over style for a season or two , i would , if only to get this ridiculous monkey off our backs of being constant underachievers with a soft belly .

/QUOTE]

Ah but would Moanrinho (hypothetically speaking) be urged to stick to the Spurs principles of playing football, which could hamstring his ability to grind out results using his usual turgid style.

Oh and you've got a monkey on your back can I suggest taking it to Hong Kong where you can feast on it's steaming brains.....mmmmm brains.

[Jol's Yid Army]

Just seen on Sky Sports website that its been reported that Jose Mourinho is gonna work for the Portuguese FA in some capacity!!!!!

[SCIFIN17YID]

This explains it funny,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GMu1K1926c&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpseudscorner%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F 2007%2F09%2Fjose%2Dmourinho%2Dat%2Dpseuds%2Dpscene s%2Ehtml

[choda]

I think it's pretty clear what happens vis a vie buying players; Jol tells Commoli what he needs/wants (refer to Maslow's hierachy for the differences between wants and needs) and Commoli goes out to try to sign the appropriate player(s). Commoli is separately charged by Levy with identifying and bringing in talented youngsters, e.g. KPB. People will use Bent as proof that Jol had a signing foisted on him, maybe but there is good reason, Berba will be off unless we are succesful this season (a trophy or CL) and thus we have a replacement (?) already at the club.

How is it clear? Are you on the board or close friends with somebody that is?

MJ said about Bent, 'I was looking at people who can stretch defences and wanted a player to do that.' That doesn't sound like Bent was hoisted on him, does it?

Here's another one: 'Every player that comes in is one that I want.'

And then you've the quotes on his great satisfaction at signing all the guys that are often refered to as Commoli signings.

I'm not saying I know either way, but based on what we know it would look like it is Jol who has the final say.

It wouldn't surprse me if there were loopholes for cheap young players, but anything else would both surprise and disappoint me a lot. We will never win anything if we have a system that bad. And it is also would be a HUGE inditement of the board.

[jrio]

I wouldn't expect Jol to say anything else. By the same token, does anyone think that Sheva was a Mourinho signing? There have been too many peripheral players signed for them all to be Jol signings. Was Murphy a player that Jol particularly wanted? It's safe to say the major signings only come in with Jol's agreement, but I could well imagine that Levy backs Comolli's judgement when it's a question of signing "players for the future".

[SurreySpur]

Ive just read that Mourinho is expecting a £25million severence/compensation package that will include a confidentiality clause.

Id love to get sacked and be paid £25million. Football really is a crazy world....

[RuFuS]

Playing Devil's Advocate for a while; Would we really want Mourinho? He is not exactly renowned for his extravagent football is he?! Would the Spurs fans accept substance over style on the pitch?

Playing with style and getting beat, still means that we're getting beat :(
More to the point when was the last time we played with style and got beat ? :confused:
The scum played crap footy for decades and won things. Not our style i hear the screaming spurs cry. They did have bags of style a couple of seasons ago. They oused style :( Teams like that come round every generation or so. I didn't see the double side but my father in law did and even he says that the scum team played every bit as good as the glory spurs side and he's dyed in the wool spurs.

Me i like Jol in fact i like him a lot but like the very nice italian man that chelscum had before mourinio, he may have had his time.

If we get the chance to have mourinio and it's a big F*ckin IF.
I say Yes

[Welsh Spur]

Dont know if anyones already mentioned this but how about....

Mourinho to Portugal
Scolari to Spurs

[mjbmedia]

Mourihno will end up at Barca. rijkaards on the downward spiral out of there fast.

[SurreySpur]

Mourinho will be portugal manger within a few weeks. No question

[singapore spur]

Mourihno will end up at Barca. rijkaards on the downward spiral out of there fast.


i would think that is the most likely result .

i think it would be a loss to english football , wether u think he is a bellend or a top fella , he made the off the pitch game more interesting , and wasnt afraid to speak his mind

[choda]

I wouldn't expect Jol to say anything else. By the same token, does anyone think that Sheva was a Mourinho signing? There have been too many peripheral players signed for them all to be Jol signings. Was Murphy a player that Jol particularly wanted? It's safe to say the major signings only come in with Jol's agreement, but I could well imagine that Levy backs Comolli's judgement when it's a question of signing "players for the future".

Well, yea that does look believable and I wouldn't call that a kitchen with too many cooks, but a kitchen with chefs that each play a part in creating a good five course meal.

That's a proven system on the continent and particularly in Holland. We've also built a top class squad here ourselves.

Mind you that isn't to say that Commoli is happy with Jol's tactics and team selections. He may well have expected Boeteng and Taarby to go right into the team and perhaps that is causing the arguements. But that's not really his place, even if Jol is doing a botched job.

[SurreySpur]

Ive got a stream of United v Chelsea and what i find amusing is despite all the 'avram grant is our long-term manager quotes', Roman Abramovich is sitting next to his special guest, non other than Marco Van Basten.

[Shuggie13]

Avram Grant looked the most stressed man on earth. I'm assuming that is just his demenour. Nice to see Sheva played his socks off to prove a point!