Defoe swap for Kewell!

[Thfc4Life]

Apparantly Liverpool are offering Kewell in exchange for Defoe and some money. Personally speaking I would hate it if Defoe was allowed to leave but with the constant rumours it is looking ever more likely that he will go.
I rate Kewell and think he would be the ideal player to solve the left wing position however, he is somewhat injury prone if he could only somehow steer clear of injuries he would be a fantastic signing.

[TomMcLaren]

god I hope not! I'd rather take the cash and buy someone less injury prone!

[whistler9027]

he is too injury prone..a good player but not worth the gamble...we are on the up and don't need to gamble on someone like kewell...

[Welsh Spur]

Let's just sweeten Defoe's impending departure by cashing in....£12million sounds better than Kewell and im guessin 5M.....

[shoot_ffs]

they're only rumours man. we have a player who doesn't play every week, and lots of other teams want him. that tells you something. My guess is if we sold him for another biggy, there will be a time when we say we could do with another tricky defoe type. It's so apparent the rags don't want us to do well, the old rebrov quotes and questionable east europe tags abound in the berbatov story. Talk about wishing him well. Things are changing guys, they don't like us improving. Kewell has bad injury record which i wouldn't expect to change. If he's so good why are they willing to offload him. We can do better than him. We knew our targets from way back, just like with berby. We shouldn't even need to sell anyone to buy big again. We had a good year, signed two major deals, flogged 4 players in january and have plenty of fodder to sell.

[Welsh Spur]

Yes, agreed. Let's stand up to the "big boys".

[shoot_ffs]

just found this stat on the sky review:

Jermain Defoe was less successful numerically (than mido) but he was denied by opposition goalkeepers 34 times, more than any other player in The Premiership.

So he was there abouts, i thought he played well this year. Tis only my opinion tho.

[reaper_1]

If defoe is worth 15mill .then that is a scary thought that we could have 3 strikers worth over 10 million but only two will play.But all he has done is score in bursts... I'm unsure but if they are going to sell him they should wait til after the WC incase he goes and is worth more.
If we keep Defoe as 'third string' then sure barnie and such will become disillusioned and want a move.
Also if we keep him I would love to see MJ play all three in some home matches and really go for it!!

[Welsh Spur]

My philosophy is that really, Defoe, Keane, Mido and Berbatov can all definately play important roles next season. All four. We have four competitions to play in next year and a big squad of quality players can only enhance our chances of winning/doing well in as many of them as possible.

[shoot_ffs]

yer considering the other areas of the squad that need sorting i'd be surprised if we bought another striker.

[reaper_1]

Do we really want Kewell !! It's took him 2/3 years to give Liverpool a decent season . Plus he has habit of choking in big games...

[Welsh Spur]

No, we do not.

Kewell: No good for Liverpool, no good for us

[Chinaman]

We need a proper left-sided wide player, whoever that may be.

[SurreySpur]

Defoe for 12million seems reasonable, we should take the money and go after Duff.

[shoot_ffs]

think we'll go for another pup, especially as we thought about arfa. wilhemsson might be cheap and he said we tried to get him in january. Sneider would be my fave, everything has gone quiet on that one.

[Chinaman]

I'm tempted to make a swap for Kewell plus 6 million. We can use the money to buy one more left winger in either Wilhemsen or Sneider.

[highlander]

no Kewell is far too much of a risk. id take duff & ben arfa any day of the week

[Chinaman]

Duff is just as brittle-footed as Kewell and is equally risky.

[shoot_ffs]

lets see how downing does in the world cup. with a new manager and need to rebuild, boro might let us nick him. Would have to pay well over the odds tho.

[highlander]

i dont really like the idea of buying Downing. although he is young and british he will be expensive and hasnt been consistently good enough for spurs. he's missed most of the season and in the UEFA final he was made to look very average by the Seville right-back. i know he's a good player but ive never been a huge fan and in my opinion he's not impressed me enough although he does have potential. i want to see more from him at the WC

[Chinaman]

Seems the Dutch have always produced top wingers. From the 70s right to now.

[shoot_ffs]

will be interesting to see who comes up with the best winger as i think us, the scum and man utd will want a left winger. We'll get a good look at wilhemsson in our group in the world cup. Still think sneider is the class act but he's had injury problems aswell.

[Keanoldinho]

I would tell the scousers we want Riise plus 10mil for Defoe or just 15mil cash or you can feck off as he's under contract until '09

[sundancer]

:cool: We should not and don't need to sell Defoe he will come good and I wan't it to be with us. And as for signing Kewell or Duff for years we have had too many players who have had injurys every other game, we seem to be getting away from that posistion buying them two players is too much of a risk.

[laspur]

Defoe says he is happy at WHL but I really think he wants to leave since he isn't guaranteed a starting spot, especially now with Berbatov aboard. Kewell on his day is excellent remember the goal against us at Liverpool. He can be good but too inconsistant. If Kewell played like his days at Leeds this swap would be great, however kewell isn't the same player so Riise should be the player we should swap for, if not no deal in my opinion.

[Keanoldinho]

No striker is guaranteed a starting spot in a "big team" so if he wants a guaranteed starting spot he should go back to wet spam. Infact wet spam got Ashton, Harewood, and Zamora so even there he wouldn't be a starter week in week out.

[laspur]

I agree no one is guaranteed a starting spot, however if Liverpool want Defoe that badly we should not settle on Kewell.

[Keanoldinho]

I agree no one is guaranteed a starting spot, however if Liverpool want Defoe that badly we should not settle on Kewell.

I agree 100%, I think Kewell is losing a bit of his pace and the injuries are a big worry to. I might get slated for this but Cisse scored 19 goals for them this season including 7 in his last 10 games me thinks he's starting to settle into the EPL a could be the man next season.

[laspur]

Cisse,Mido,Berbatov,Keane I could live with this. Keanoldinho it's a gamble, i've seen Cisse blow many goals this year but he could be settling like you said. His pace is freightening for any defender and there have been some impressive goals from him this year. Can I see him in a Spurs shirt? I just don't know if I welcome it.

[Keanoldinho]

If we had bought him straight off Auxerre most people would've been really excited about it. Fact is he scored a hell of alot more goals than Defoe this season and as long as he doesn't get to dying his fecking hair yellow again I wouldn't mind him.

[laspur]

My only problem with Cisse is, he dives quite a bit. Most players do these days but he is up there for this years Oscar. Okay maybe i'm being a little harsh but Jol may be able to bring out the best in him. At the end of the day I would welcome Cisse.

[Keanoldinho]

The guy has more potential than Defoe imo and with the right coach could well become a world class player. He's fast as hell already so just imagine Moniz our skills coach teaching him afew new fake out moves so he could start really taking the piss. It probably won't happen but if it did I would be one of the few yids to welcome the move.

[Houdini logic]

I'd prefer Defoe to Cisse, but would take Cisse if they offered a decent sum for Defoe

[mjbmedia]

what gets me with defoes situation is that earlier in the season ,post match interview MJ had his arm round Defoes shoulders after hed scored two crackers for us and said if he keeps scoring for me he will stay in the team. well he didnt score the next match, tho set one up and played well, and straight away Keane comes back in to partner Mido.

Sorry MJ but you gotta be a bit more honest than that or say that he needs to score EVERY game, else of course hes gonna get pissed off. so would i!!

yet Keane has a few blank games but still stays in ??

[Welsh Spur]

It's about performance, and Defoe hasn't looked arsed for much of this season and Keane has been in undroppable form, bleeding Spurs blood.

[singapore spur]

dont rate kewell , injury prone yup , and always seems to pick up these injuries in games where its going against his team , we need players that arent going to hide when we are up against it .
also despite not giving a toss about leeds , i thought the whole moneygrabbing scenario when he moved to liverpool was awful .

[shoot_ffs]

i wouldn't give you a pound for cisse, he's atrocious. Chris armstrong all over again. His scoring record for liverpool is poor considering he's been fit most of the year, and they're a top 3 side. I think berby's signing shows we want someone who can get involved in build up play aswell, and he ain't that. Lua lua for me if you want a quick man.

[DonJolSpurano]

take this with a pinch of salt...sod it, a bucket!...but apparently defoe was seen in liverpool on wednesday night.

this is the same source that told me about fowler going back in early december and i laughed that one of as well :cool:

my heart doesnt want to believe and my head says..."wasnt he in portugal with the england squad"...but deep down something tells me we wont be seeing defoe in the lilywhite shirt next term.

in fact, its wasny 'something' but actually sven g.e that told me when he was only named as a stand-by. thanks sven.

[DonJolSpurano]

i wouldn't give you a pound for cisse, he's atrocious. Chris armstrong all over again. His scoring record for liverpool is poor

its better than defoes

[SurreySpur]

Looks like Newcastle are in for defoe as well as the scousers. There will be a lot of offers coming in over the next month, ManYoo will be one of them for sure.

[Welsh Spur]

Over £10 mill and I'm happy. I don't want him to go a rival team, but I don't think we'll be able to get away with that...

[mjbmedia]

long as we dont give him away, he i quality and will be for years to come so get the money (do we have to give WHAM a %?) ,at least £15M or leave him here til Jan, get him playing and then see if he still wants to leave and what we can get for him then.

personally i still dont think hes been treated well, when we played MIDO all the time yet didnt try too hard to keep him , yet Defoe and Keane can and do play well together but we let Defoe rot even tho when he did come on he set up chances by chasing totally lost causes and winning them

[Keanoldinho]

i wouldn't give you a pound for cisse, he's atrocious. Chris armstrong all over again. His scoring record for liverpool is poor considering he's been fit most of the year, and they're a top 3 side. I think berby's signing shows we want someone who can get involved in build up play aswell, and he ain't that. Lua lua for me if you want a quick man.


Cisse didn't start in alot of games and was played out of position for most of the season, but still managed to bag 19 goals while Defoe didn't even get 10 and sulked like the little gooner that he is. I say get rid of the gooner and don't buy SWP because he's a goon to, trade Cisse for Defoe then get Cole in on a free so we got Keano/Berbatov/Cisse/Cole. After that buy Chimbonda for 4mil and Bridge for 3 mil and we'd be left with nearly 20 mil to buy a quality LW.

[shoot_ffs]

it's funny how opinions differ eh. i really think cisse is skank, and my two scouse buds can't stand him. If he was a better team player i could understand it. I would take carlton cole over him, that's how bad i think he is.

[Keanoldinho]

it's funny how opinions differ eh. i really think cisse is skank, and my two scouse buds can't stand him. If he was a better team player i could understand it. I would take carlton cole over him, that's how bad i think he is.

answer these 2 questions for me and I'll agree with you if your answers make sense.


How did he score 19 goals if he's shite?

How did he score 7 goals in the last 10 games if he's shite?

[shoot_ffs]

he is shite full stop, his control is atrocious and he's terribly self centered. Most of his shots go out for a throw in. he got his goals because he plays in one of the best teams in europe. Any striker would score some goals, and i agree his pace gives him an extra dimension, but there are too many missing for me. If liverpool are willing to sell their top scoring striker, at a considerable loss, that tells you something. I would rather pay 20m for bent or anelka than 4m for cisse. Just how i feel about the guy.

[Chinaman]

Cisse isn't shit. But we won't be after him as we have a top class big guy now. And it looks as if we'll have a second class big man in Carlton Cole.

[sundancer]

:cool: If Defoe is no good how come so many teams are being linked with him ( Man-u, L/pool,Newcastle to name just three ), he has not had his best season but he is class, we must keep him because most of the alternatives ( Cisse,Cole ) are not as good.

[Chinaman]

You're right. Nobody wants to dump him. It's rather a question of whether he's willing to stay.

[mjbmedia]

well we've got his contract so he has to stay unless we let him go. give it 6 months and he'll be happy again with us, or soaring with the scousers.

[Chinaman]

Hope that happens.

[Keanoldinho]

he is shite full stop, his control is atrocious and he's terribly self centered. Most of his shots go out for a throw in. he got his goals because he plays in one of the best teams in europe. Any striker would score some goals, and i agree his pace gives him an extra dimension, but there are too many missing for me. If liverpool are willing to sell their top scoring striker, at a considerable loss, that tells you something. I would rather pay 20m for bent or anelka than 4m for cisse. Just how i feel about the guy.

So basically what your saying is if Anthony Gardner played up front for Liverpool he would've scored 19 goals this season and finished the season off with 7 in 10, because he's fast as hell.

You might not like the guys personality, but you can't deny that he has a shat load of potential. I like Defoe and always have but a straight swap for Cisse if Jermaine wants to leave would not be bad business imo.

Keano/Berbatov/Cisse/Cole looks class to me

[Keanoldinho]

:cool: If Defoe is no good how come so many teams are being linked with him ( Man-u, L/pool,Newcastle to name just three ), he has not had his best season but he is class, we must keep him because most of the alternatives ( Cisse,Cole ) are not as good.

I never said he was no good all I said was a straight swap for Cisse wouldn't be bad businees. They're both very young and have a shat load of potential, and him being linked with all these clubs could easily be media bollocks.

[laspur]

With the lineup of strikers we have already, Defoe will not get sufficient playing time which will lead to more moaning. If we hold onto Defoe and doesn't deliver the goods this season his value will drop from 10mil. plus to a few mil. do we want to gamble on this. I think the right thing to do is get maximum value now while we can.

[mjbmedia]

on the other hand , keane could get a long term injury , pre season, then we'd need defoe badly, he plays gets 22+ goals ,resigns a 3 year deal and we're all happy as a Lehman

[shoot_ffs]

i can't believe people think defoe has been moaning, i haven't seen it. keane threw a wobbler last year and everyone thinks he's the perfect pro now, even if he fights in training. If that had been defoe it would have been because of a questionable temperament, which by the way cisse has in spades. He's been trying to flog himself to all and sundry since january.

[Chinaman]

Even if he has not been heard moaning, the total lack of spirit when he came on as sub in the last 2 months tell that he's not happy.

[laspur]

i can't believe people think defoe has been moaning, i haven't seen it. keane threw a wobbler last year and everyone thinks he's the perfect pro now, even if he fights in training. If that had been defoe it would have been because of a questionable temperament, which by the way cisse has in spades. He's been trying to flog himself to all and sundry since january.
There is no mistaking keane's dedication to the team, the guy bleeds lilywhite and blue. I don't see the same from Defoe especially when he comes on as a sub. If you haven't noticed, I say open your eyes.

[highlander]

well Defoe hasnt been moaning as such but when he stormed down the tunnel and out of the ground this season when he was warming up but found out he wasnt going to come on, that sends a very moany messege. i dont think he should sell him though as he'll have a good season next year.

[mjbmedia]

no players bleeds for the club, theyd all leave end of next season if we have a crap one and they get a great offer from a champions league club. The only people who bleed for the club are the fans, we're in it for life, the rest will all come and go.

[laspur]

So keane doesn't give a 100% you are right he gives a 120%.

[mjbmedia]

he doesnt seem to chase supposed lost causes the same as defoe and lennon do, and still come out on top a fair percentage of the time and he (or anyone else) doesnt make the obvious runs to the near post when someone is struggling to get a ball into the middle from the flanks.
end of the day why shouldnt defoe be pissed off being left out when he has played well earlier in the season . Maybe if he had played more we'd have wond more and got 4th place, maybe he has a point and is right, we will never know but you cant really assume hes not right as we finished 5th and blew 4th place , and defoe didnt play many of the games we blew it in.

[Chinaman]

I think Keane chases more lost causes than Defoe.

[Keanoldinho]

I think the main reason alot of people love Defoe no matter what he does is simply because he's our only 1st team English striker.

[Chinaman]

I think we've always loved our goal poachers: Greaves,Lineker,Allen; and now of course Defoe.

[laspur]

I cant accept we blew 4th because Defoe wasn't in these games. The 5 blown games were lack of concentration not being able to close out games defensively.

[Keanoldinho]

on the other hand , keane could get a long term injury , pre season, then we'd need defoe badly, he plays gets 22+ goals ,resigns a 3 year deal and we're all happy as a Lehman


I'd really love to see that, but he's never done that before unlike Cisse.

[Keanoldinho]

I think we've always loved our goal poachers: Greaves,Lineker,Allen; and now of course Defoe.


Them first 3 are legends and Defoe isn't

[mjbmedia]

Them first 3 are legends and Defoe isn't
thats cos he's still playing, were the others legends at defoes age?? i think not

put yourself in Defoes shoes, hes played well early season but is on the bench, fair enough he knows he may have to be for the squad.
Keane and Mido are on form and we are winning. Then mido gets injured so Rasiak comes in infront of Defoe !!! Rasiak picked before Defoe???? yes yeh yeh we know little and large is MJ's prefferred option but Rasiak infront of Defoe!!!!! jeez that would piss anyone off, it pissed me off .

[GOONHATER]

Cisse Won't Be Coming To Whl, Dosent Anyone Remember The Fiasco When Benitez Said Jd Was Not Happy And Wanted To Go To Anfield And We Were Interested In Cisse Going To The Lane ,which Then Prevoked An Angry Statement From Levy On The Thfc Web Page.

[DarlinginJapan]

GOONHATER, love that avatar... though looks more like three yards on there!

[GOONHATER]

It Dont Matter If It Was 1,2,3 Or 4 It Was Still The Winneeeeeeeeeeer!

[AndyHarker]

I really don't think Defoe will leave, you need four top strikers at a club and we have that now! Why would we sell Defoe (proven in the Prem and in a spurs shirt) and buy someone else??? We don't need the money and we are not going to get any better for that money without the lure of the CL! With us hopefully fighting on four different fronts long into next season we need the strenght in depth!

[highlander]

hopefully even though im not too bothered about the F.A & Carling Cup but we certainly need to go a bit further than we did last season

[singapore spur]

hopefully even though im not too bothered about the F.A & Carling Cup but we certainly need to go a bit further than we did last season


im pretty certain we wont do worse

[Welsh Spur]

I looking for 5th or higher next season, last 4 of FA and as far as possible in Europe. Carling cup not really a priority, could be used to help settle in some players. But the other 3 comps I want to do as well as possible, so we should keep Defoe for certain, Keane and Berbatov, in all honesty I hope Mido stays but dont look likely. I think with those 4 strikers we'd be set for next season. Mido really has a truck-load of unfulfilled potential. I really think we should stick by him and we'll reap the benefits.