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Hayes Massive
15th May 2006, 08:45 PM
With the 2 new sponsors & a minimum of £54 million coming into the club over the next 4 years,perhaps we should be looking to improve the capacity at the Lane as well as improving the squad.Its all very well having mega bucks to spend on new players but the long term Champions League aspirations will not be met with a ground only holding 36000,approximately 32000 for C L games.
A decision has to be taken by the board now whilst the finances allow to either improve W H L or build a new stadium,wembley is a no go,& the Olympic stadium is not being built for football & will have a bloody great athletics track around it.
A 50000 seater stadium is absolutely essential as a minimum.
Having watched the beloved ones at WHL for 40 years I would like us to improve the existing,perfectly feasible as the present plans show,however if its a new stadium thats still ok,but doing nothing is not in my view an option.

PooleSpur
15th May 2006, 09:12 PM
The quick answer is that you are probably spot on. Whilst I'm sure we all want to see player improvement, the policy of buying young talent at reasonable prices is likely to continue, but pound to a pinch of poo some of this money will go into ground redevelopment of some description. It has to, and I do agree with your final line. Particularly when you walk into Worcester Avenue and realise that it is still the same ground you visited 40 years ago (in places)

Spur
15th May 2006, 10:01 PM
If we could expand WHL i'm sure we would. Time and time again they have let us know they can't. I want WHL to be the home of Spurs forever. I'd rather have an expanded WHL at 50 or 55 thousand than a new stadium at 60 or 65, just because a new stadium is a lot more expensive and WHL is WHL.

reaper_1
15th May 2006, 10:16 PM
I don't think expanding whl is the problem. I remember a row between levy and a transport minister ( can't remember which one.) Basically spurs want to expand but only if the government improve the transport system to the stadium.

shoot_ffs
15th May 2006, 10:47 PM
I think a piece of wembley is the best bet. without uncle joe or a sheik coming into the club we aren't going to have the money to build new. look at what happened to arsenal, the costs were ridiculous. With the wembley project in financial problems, we could put in a down payment, and rent the seats we fill above our ground capacity,with a piece going to wembley. As long as we are making profit, it's got to be better than turning away 20000 spurs fans for every home game.

If we only take WHL up to it's max which i think was quoted 44k, it's still going to be a pain in the arse travelling. I think our money could be better spent exploring new age revenues, such as net streams, where masses can pay to watch the games, and the need for a big ground capacity will be diminished. I'm not saying that revenue and game experience should be treated as one scenario, they are both important to those that want to go to the games, but i don't think it's worth stumping a few 100m on a new stadium to make money.

Danishspurs
16th May 2006, 09:55 AM
Ive heard roumors that the east stand is going to be expanded with 10 000... I've heard it from a danish fan who was told by a guide when he was on a tour at WHL... But we would probably have heard something about it if it was going to happen this summer...

Welsh Spur
16th May 2006, 11:57 AM
If progression continues I would say stadium expansion would come inevitably, as it would represent progression.

highlander
16th May 2006, 01:22 PM
the stadium cant be expanded, something to do witht the local infrastucture or some bo****ks like that. levy tried to get the new olympic stadium but its going to be kept as an athletics track. he also tried to sort out a deal to groundshare the new Wembley but the F.A dont want to so at the moment its not looking good for a larger capacity but im sure super-chairman Mr. Levy will sort something out

shoot_ffs
16th May 2006, 01:58 PM
maybe he has done a deal with the FA over this poisoning thing. seems everything is being kept nice and quiet until after the scum game, and then the cards will be laid on the table. If the FA have dumped on us, and they can't have known what happened, then maybe they'll give us a nod for wembley. It seems daft to have a sodding great footy stadium up the road but nobody use it. In the interests of fairness, a large percentage of the money raised that is above our own gate capacity, could be used towards redeveloping tottenham and surrounding areas. If we pay it back over 25 years or whatever. There has to be a compromise there. If we fill say 76,000 every week at wembley, 40k above our capacity, then say 75% of that extra revenue goes into rebuilding the area. It's a shit load of money x19 home games plus european and cup games also. Whether the wembley folk would veto it being used that regular remains to be seen. I just think it's a waisted resource for us and the community. We're all paying for it through taxes anyway so let spurs generate some income for redeveloping the area.

Chinaman
16th May 2006, 03:00 PM
I don't mind moving. But due to nostalgic feelings, perhaps a small local approach road could be renamed Whit Hart Lane. We can make this a condition for re-locating adn I'm sure any local council would agree with the associated economic benefits of a 60000 crowd brings every other week.

reaper_1
16th May 2006, 07:16 PM
White hart lane is white hart lane!!
I wouldn't mind if the move was relatively local. But it has to a sensible name like new whl NOT sponsored like the mansion complex or something equally as stupid ( like emirates stadium - what happens when the sponsorship runs out will the be called the stadium formally known as the emirates stadium?)
I hate the thought of the olympic stadium - any of the stadia in italy with running tracks have no atmosphere. It's hard for fans to be the 12th man if they are at least 60/70 yards away from the touch line!

highlander
16th May 2006, 07:21 PM
italian football is ruined anyway, hardly anyone attends matches anymore, mass corruption, most of the clubs are in debt and the president or former president (as it is now) owns one of the top clubs

fluke
16th May 2006, 07:23 PM
I don't mind moving. But due to nostalgic feelings, perhaps a small local approach road could be renamed Whit Hart Lane. We can make this a condition for re-locating adn I'm sure any local council would agree with the associated economic benefits of a 60000 crowd brings every other week.

couldn't agree more. i think we have struggled with our location for many years and i think it is a joke that the local authorites have done nothing to help to make WHL more accesible for fans. It's time to look at other alternatives.

sundancer
16th May 2006, 08:25 PM
:cool: Not sure Wembley would be a good idea if we got 55,000 it will leave 25;000 empty seats which won't help create a good atmosphere, but we do need to do somthing I have been going to the Lane for over forty years and it is my second home, however if we had to leave so be it as long as it helps to compete on a equal footing with the so called big clubs.

shoot_ffs
16th May 2006, 09:12 PM
we're almost selling out our ground capacity with season tickets when you consider the waiting list, not counting how many would like to go but can't be arsed with the poor travelling facilities. Also with a big london stadium you could expect a load of away fans for the derby's. Wembley in itself is a spectacle and there won't be anything to beat it for atmosphere in this country. It's a footy stadium and it's local. We should pull all the stops out.

highlander
16th May 2006, 09:36 PM
yeah true, season tickets sales will be around 40,000 should we get a bigger stadium. then theres the spurs fans without season tickets, then the away fans. we wouldnt fill it every week but we would fill it a lot of the time, most of the weekend games anyway.

Chinaman
16th May 2006, 10:42 PM
Then there'll be the occasion ones like me from abroad.

singapore spur
17th May 2006, 06:10 AM
agreed thay cant develop ( or no point maybe ) while the traffic and rail infrastructure so crap