View Full Version : Fa To Discuss Matter At Meeting Tomorrow
Jol's Yid Army
9th May 2006, 04:55 PM
I think we all know that the game will not be replayed and this is why. Tomorrow at the meeting David Dein will flop it out and each member will suck it for him. After that there will be a vote and everyone of them will vote a great big NO!!!!
Surely Dein being on the FA is a conflict of interests and he should be booted out.
Again, with the number of cock ups they've made recently with the whole England manager farce and pretty much everything else they do, i don't see any hope of them replaying the game. Sticking their neck out might put their lavish lifestyle in jeopardy.
Can't have that now can we?
shoot_ffs
9th May 2006, 06:27 PM
he won't be there by all accounts, just the 3 big wigs chatting about us. I wouldn't be surprised if there was only two of them soon lol.
allcock&bull
9th May 2006, 07:09 PM
I wish he could just forget it and take defeat gracefully and not pull us and our club through this embarrassing charade. Whatever the events, and the tests will show there was no foul play, we f***ed up big time. How any team does not have their own chefs amazes me.Scandals have been going on since the 70's christ we even had our own chef at Enfield ffs.We've got to drop this 2 bob image and start behaving and acting like a CL club. Players can go injured at anytime and in any amounts. We have a squad of 35 players all of which would die for a chance to play in a game so big. If we knew about this bug at 5.00AM we should of had everyone of them on alert.Just leave it be, there is no chance and rightly so of a replay so let us please start to regain our dignity
shoot_ffs
9th May 2006, 07:11 PM
i think we have acted with dignity, and it may appear that the FA have not. I can smell a pay off. Cha-ching!!!
I'd also like to add that other fans and club players saying how we are complaining is totally false. Saying well arsenal and newcastle have had players out, so do we, king, jenas, stalteri and mido before we start talking about food poisoning. We were entitled to ask about postponing the game, and it now looks like the FA have boobed by not treating it with due respect. Thankfully lol
reaper_1
9th May 2006, 07:27 PM
There is no way the fa will back down.It is more likely we will get fined for disrepute knowing the fa. But watch for next year nice big rule change regarding a similar situation. Bit late. It feels crap right now but how good will it feel if we replay west ham 2 days after their final and get into 4th place. There will be calls for another replay because it's not fair on arsenal. Lets face it west ham barely beat a team full of sick players . They will get their cummupence on saturday.
We should be proud of 5th place we would have been in september.
No matter what happens there is always going to be a question mark over our season . Lets not turn into chelsea and end up being hated because of what goes on off the pitch!!!
Chinaman
9th May 2006, 09:16 PM
They've stuck to their guns by insisting the result stands. What is there to discuss?
Spur
9th May 2006, 10:04 PM
To put it simply the fixture should not have taken place, the FA or David Dein didn't have the balls, the guts, the respect, etc etc to make the call. Thay all wear red down at Soho Square, and we all know that there is absolutely no chance of a replay.
Allwhite
9th May 2006, 10:19 PM
i dont think so either to be honest, but it makes me sick to hear that they will change the rules for next season in the eventuality that this could happen again. :mad:
OhToBeAgOoNer
9th May 2006, 10:24 PM
Guys i know im not welcome here espicially after sundays event but i wanted see what you guy thought about it all.Personally I think spurs have had a great season & are a much improved team with a bright future & althou sunday must of hurt like hell you've gotta put it behind you & move on.
Like allcock&bull said in his post whinging about it and asking for a replay is emmbarassing (kinda like when guys scored at highbury, i felt embarassed by our moaning bout it) & theres noway its gonna happen. Martin Jol could of not played the game & if he did that you might of got more sympathy from the FA & the replay. And none of this has anything to do with David Dein so i dunno why people are crying about him. so whats done is done, time to move on.
Spur
9th May 2006, 11:03 PM
The goal was fair, you players tried to con our man into kicking the ball out that is completely different, and everyone knows Dein picks the England squad and changes the rules to favour Arsenal.
PooleSpur
9th May 2006, 11:27 PM
Coo its just like the 606 again. Find a new home and the gooners hunt us out again. I'm trying to be pragmatic about the whole episode. Levy is protesting because its worth a lot of money so as the Chairman with responsibility to the shareholders he has no choice. He would be criticised if he didn't. MJ took the footballing view with a great deal of dignity and i think most of us respect him for that. We are all disappointed, but it was not about one game. If we hadn't blown some easy fixtures just after Christmas, we wouldn't be having this debate. We should have been out of sight by the final game. We had the opportunities and we fluffed them. Lets look forward to next season and continued progression. I for one am glad to see that the gooners feel that the North London Derby is back for real.
I do have concerns about David Dein's position in the FA. I am concerned about the sudden emergence of Wallcott and would be interested to know what really precipitated his sudden inclusion, which according to Sven began 6 to 8 weeks ago. Such a promotion is unprecedented surely. Having said that, I wish him the best of luck, he could be on a hiding to nothing or become the hero of the hour and perhaps his youth and inexperience WILL prevent him from being overcome by the occasion.
With regard to the Highbury goal, everyone knows that argument is smoke and mirrors. Play to the whistle, a lesson you learn at the age of five.
HeWhoDarez
10th May 2006, 12:54 AM
Not sure about rule changes guys..
"We simply do not understand why the FAPL failed to appraise itself of all of the facts before turning down our request that the fixture be postponed under rule E 13.4."
Anyone know exactly what this rule is?
I could only find E 13 :S
It could be that the FAPL is accountable for making a decision unjustly without appraising the facts "and in contravention of its own exhisting rules".
I still doubt they would consider a replay even with the pressure from the other chairmen, but I think they may consider some form of compensation if they determine to have not interpreted their own rules properly in this matter.
Must say it is a real shame that our national ambitions may be affected by sending another team full of clumsy foreigners into the CL next year instead of our hardcore English talent.
cheers for letting me rant :D
Welsh Spur
10th May 2006, 09:08 AM
a civil gooner?!?!?
yes, i hate to say it gooner, but i agree, its embarrassing and ive said from the start that we should just accept fifth and look ahead. but with it all being dragged through and after the way it has become apparent that tha FA are cowards and ****ed up on Sunday, they should have postponed. But it's all said and done, we're fifth, got screwed out of 4th, but hey, theres always next year right and hopefully a shed-load of compo! .....Arsenal still exist and now we can take our extremest revenge. I hope.
Chinaman
10th May 2006, 11:29 AM
Nothing will come of this. Just to hide behind a collective "decision".
JuicE
10th May 2006, 12:30 PM
Nothing will come of it. However, surely its better to stand up and say "we ain't happy" thats all there trying to do. There wouldn't be many teams that would take it and move on without so much as a whimper!
As for the gooner with the opinion, **** off! we don't need your opinon or we would ask for it so piss off back to your little rock.:mad:
Jol's Yid Army
10th May 2006, 01:54 PM
Well said JuicE
Chinaman
10th May 2006, 07:09 PM
The **** All Bastards have turned down Levy's request. Levy said the Board will decide the next step.
Welsh Spur
11th May 2006, 10:10 AM
We should have just kept quiet, smiled through clenched teeth, then waited and let the anger and frustration boil up until the next meeting against London Paris.....then destroyed them. After that I could think of no better thing than sayin a big "**** YOU" to the scummy french bastards.
JuicE
11th May 2006, 10:29 AM
reports suggest that spurs have made the request for a replay to support any liable case that may be thrown at the Marriott if food poisoning is found to be the culprit.
Welsh Spur
11th May 2006, 02:40 PM
Possibly, Levy's made it no secret that they pretty much expected the refusal. He's a clever guy....
DonJolSpurano
11th May 2006, 02:52 PM
reports suggest that spurs have made the request for a replay to support any liable case that may be thrown at the Marriott if food poisoning is found to be the culprit.
or against the FAPL for loss of potential earnings.
alan green said much the same last night when he heard about the reply, on radio 5 live.
levy isnt daft, he'll try and get something out of this and he'll make the FAPLs life a misery until he gets some kind of compensation for the club...trust me ;)
its chelsea all over again. we could open a can of worms over this. lets hope it precipitates an assessment of the rules and a review of the FA and FAPLs procedures and organisational structure.
i also think we the fans can help get the ball rolling and attempt, however much in vain it may be, to have david deins position investigated. levy is the second chairman in a week to do this. now the FAPL clubs fans, as one body, need to do the same.
Welsh Spur
11th May 2006, 03:13 PM
Can we maybe start an online petition and get it e-mailed to the FA?
DonJolSpurano
11th May 2006, 03:44 PM
Can we maybe start an online petition and get it e-mailed to the FA?
not just a petition. im thinking a more general campaign between fans of all PL clubs to have, firstly, Dein removed from his FAPL position and also, an indepth review into the whole sorry 'mob' (seems like a perfect word to use).
PooleSpur
11th May 2006, 08:50 PM
We all know football is about money and as sure as eggs is eggs in the next few years a club will take legal action against the PL, a ref or another player due an action which results in a loss of a significant amount of money...........funnily enough I would put money on it. If the "goal that never was" had resulted in the loss of £10m, would the injured parties have quietly accepted it? In these money driven times, it is completely unacceptable to have somebody like Dein in the position he holds. I don't care if its happened before, it wasn't right then either and the influence he is having is obvious
mikeythepikey
11th May 2006, 08:52 PM
Dave Richards
FA Premier League
Dear Mr Richards,
On Thursday, February 2 of this year the Arsenal Football Club hosted West Ham in a Premier League match. Our match with West Ham was effectively a cup final, as we were in a bitter fight for Champions League qualification and also celebrating the 2,000th match to be staged at Highbury.
It is a matter of public record that prior to the game we suffered a suspiciously large number of absences, including eight first team players absent due to injury, suspension and African based international competitions, forcing us to field the following team:
Jens Lehmann, Sol Campbell (Sebastian Larsson), Johan Djourou, Kerrea Gilbert (Mathieu Flamini), Philippe Senderos, Vassiriki Abou Diaby (Dennis Bergkamp), Fredrik Ljungberg, Robert Pires, Gilberto Silva, Thierry Henry, Robin van Persie.
Prior to the match, we contacted the FAPL to question:
- Potential discriminatory refereeing regarding the suspension of our only two Spanish regular first team players Jose Antonio Reyes and Cesc Fabregas and why the referees are clearly biased towards Tottenham;
- The timing of the African Nations Cup and Africa’s clear bias towards Tottenham; and
- A recent outbreak of ‘Left Back metatarsal-specific osteoporosis’ at Arsenal, and human evolutions clear bias towards Tottenham.
We believed that the FAPL were examining the situation in good faith and were seeking to obtain all relevant information before coming to a decision. The chief executive had given us every reason to believe the match could be postponed to allow our players some extra time to recover from a lack of Defenders, Spaniards, Africans and desire to just bloody get on with it and play the game.
Whilst waiting for the opinion I was contacted by the FAPL and told that we had to play the game that day or suffer the consequences. This, by implication, may have meant a significant loss of points, credibility, and the denial of the reality that we would have to actually fight to achieve participation in any European competition - a situation I could not sanction.
We played the game with players who were inexperienced but who were desperate not to let their fans and colleagues down. We also played with Sol Campbell. Again, it is a matter of public record that we lost the game 3-2, and incurred further injuries to our already depleted defence as Kerrea Gilbert suffered a back injury and Sol Campbell a lack of spine.
We feel let down by the FAPL's abdication of its responsibility to consider the request for a postponement fairly and after due consideration of all relevant factors. In being given no viable option to postpone the match, our players were denied the possible opportunity of strolling into the Champions League. Instead we were forced to grind out results and to place a mid-fielder in the unfamiliar role of Left Back which may or may not have inadvertently lead to our qualification for this year’s Champion’s League Final.
Clearly, our governing body put us in an impossible situation and gave a significant advantage to Tottenham in competing for that fourth position because they won matches when we lost and that just isn’t fair.
The Premier League was inconsistent in its approach in being prepared to acknowledge that we were beaten but not allowing the match to be replayed on a different day, until such time as we got the result we wanted.
We now have confirmation from a majority of Premier League clubs that they would support a replay and in similar circumstances would expect the game to have been postponed. This is a gesture made by fellow clubs which supports these clubs aims of ruining a professional league in any manner in which all of its member clubs are able to manipulate results in their favour in any way.
We therefore formally request that you order that the game be replayed.
Repeatedly, if necessary.
Yours sincerely,
Peter Hill-Wood
Chairman,
Arsenal FC
Welsh Spur
12th May 2006, 08:32 AM
I feel like I'm stuck in the same thread.....
Spur
12th May 2006, 07:09 PM
That kid is a ******. And a pikey. And I think a petition vs Dein is a good idea.
AndyHarker
12th May 2006, 07:29 PM
That kid is a ******. And a pikey. And I think a petition vs Dein is a good idea.
Dein's position on the FA is a complete conflict of intrest, it would not be permitted in politics or commerce, so why is it permitted in football???
Spur
12th May 2006, 09:06 PM
Because Dein lets it. He has made it so.
Dave
15th May 2006, 12:30 PM
Levy has one more option open to him: investigate the distinct possibility that the food poisoning was intentional. A few years ago, an Asian gambling gang tried to tamper with the floodlights at Charlton for some bizarre reason, so they are definitely willing to interfere with a game. There would have been millions of pounds bet within Southeast Asia on whether the scum qualified for the Champions League this year. All they needed was one dodgy contact in the kitchens. I hear one of the chefs there by the name of Stavros is a season ticket holder at Highbury. Could be Suspect number 1.
mjbmedia
15th May 2006, 06:48 PM
I hear one of the chefs there by the name of Stavros is a season ticket holder at Highbury. Could be Suspect number 1.
thing is he'd be let off on the grounds of diminished responsibilities.......................
well lets face it you gotta be mad to splash out on a season ticket at scumbury
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