Food poisoning saga - your view

[Neil_Vaughan]

post your thoughts in here whether it be you feel we should go for compensation, a replay etc...

[fluke]

I think we'd be flogging a dead horse.

[Jol's Yid Army]

I detect foul play and i think spurs should sue the Hotel for loss of potential earnings. I hope they catch the gooner who poisioned our players.

Also can someone tell me why West Ham hates us so much?

[SurreySpur]

Ive never really understood the west ham hatred thing either. Dont get me wrong i don't like them but they seem to F-ing hate us!! Is it a jelousy thing?

[Welsh Spur]

I think we should just accept we finished fifth and take our revenge next year when Henry's gone!

[shoot_ffs]

if it turns out that the poisoning incident was exactly that, then the FA and Spurs should assess the game on it's merits. Surely with the technology available, systems like those used by opta and prozone could be used to thoroughly assess the players stats for the game, and be measured against other performances this year. I mean as far as running times, distances etc which as we could see was obviously affected. I would expect this to show a significant drop in performance say 30-40%. Also, interestingly it may have had a psychological effect on the spurs players who weren't ill, showing a drop in their performance levels, and a raise in performance from the west ham players as it was clearly an advantage. How much below par were we?

If spurs can prove that we were unable to compete then it could be a case for the game to be replayed. Perhaps only if Barca beat arsenal in the CL final.

[Houdini logic]

I say we frame Wenger for personally doing it, then plant some dodgy images on his laptop (although i doubt we'd need to)

[MarlowSpurs]

I say we frame Wenger for personally doing it, then plant some dodgy images on his laptop (although i doubt we'd need to)
The thought of Wenger being locked up and forced to pick up the soap on a rope in the showers has made my day.

[spurs61]

The thought of Wenger being locked up and forced to pick up the soap on a rope in the showers has made my day.

This is Wenger's idea of a good Saturday night, why would you want to give him pleasure?

[highlander]

i doubt anything will come of this as David Dein will make sure anything gets stopped. id love a replay and if foul play is detected then thats definately what we should go for but its looking bleak.

[Spur]

You just know it was Dein who said play the game. If ever there was a conflict of interests, this is it. But no-one seems to do anything about it...

[Bingey]

Sad and distraught as I am, I can not see the point of replaying the match against WHU. The FA and Premiership should have dealt with the situation yesterday, before the game took place. I very much doubt that Man Utd, Liverpoiol or that French crowd would have been treated as we were. In the cold light of day I fear that we are going nowhere with an appeal or a police investigation. Our goose is cooked....not because of yesterday.....but because of 3 or 4 games where we 'threw away' points (WHU at WHL!). There were also games where we managed to 'sreal' points when we were 'fortunate' to do so. It appears that, as in the past, good and back luck come around.....except not at WHL.....
I regret having to look forward to UEFA Cup and another season of playing in the Premiership BUT we are looking better than ever before (well, since 1975 maybe!) COYS!:p

[Chinaman]

I also see no possibility of replaying since it would be unfair to West Ham who had nothing to do with the poisoning. If food poisoning could really be proved, then we should seek redress in compensation from the hotel and the FA. That would perhaps increase our transfer funds by another 5 million.

[JuicE]

I also see no possibility of replaying since it would be unfair to West Ham who had nothing to do with the poisoning. If food poisoning could really be proved, then we should seek redress in compensation from the hotel and the FA. That would perhaps increase our transfer funds by another 5 million.

F**K West ham, they hate us for some reason so why should we give a shit (excuse the pun). Replay won't happen though with the FA wearing red!

Theo walcott WTF?

[TruthHurts]

I have a few questions.

1) Do the first team players not eat with the rest of the squad? I'm just wondering how it was only important first team players that were affected.

2) If we assume that there was no malice involved here at all then is it the same as, for example, 10 players coming down with a bad cold? would you then insist on replaying the match?
3) Were there 11 fit players who could compete or was your entire team out?

4) Is it fair to expect West Ham to re-play a match just before the FA cup final?

My final comment is just that it's a long season and throughout players get injured or ill. If Spurs really were that much better then this game should never even have mattered. You guys should just get over this food poisoning nonsense and just accept that its been a good season for your team. Your best finish in years, only 2 points behind Arsenal and the UEFA cup to come.

[Welsh Spur]

May I ask who you support? Also, I like your uber-considerate user name. Tasteful. As a Spurs supporter I would like to say that the food-poisoning "saga" is of no relevance to me and that we lost on the day we really needed to win, but I am happy with the season's accomplishments. Oh, and it doesn't matter if we got a replay or not, West Ham will lose the FA Cup final anyway.

[spurs61]

I have a few questions.

1) Do the first team players not eat with the rest of the squad? I'm just wondering how it was only important first team players that were affected.

2) If we assume that there was no malice involved here at all then is it the same as, for example, 10 players coming down with a bad cold? would you then insist on replaying the match?
3) Were there 11 fit players who could compete or was your entire team out?

4) Is it fair to expect West Ham to re-play a match just before the FA cup final?

My final comment is just that it's a long season and throughout players get injured or ill. If Spurs really were that much better then this game should never even have mattered. You guys should just get over this food poisoning nonsense and just accept that its been a good season for your team. Your best finish in years, only 2 points behind Arsenal and the UEFA cup to come.

In response to your fair questions

1. The entire squad eats both dinner and a pre-game lunch together, this includes anyone who has travelled with the squad but have nt been selected for the bench, we tend to take a squad of 18-20 players on away days.

2. Do you mean a la Middlesborough? It appears to me that professional footballers are allowed to be injured but are not permitted to be ill. I suffer from Salmonella and spent 6 weeks in bed last year, I couldn't do a thing and even making a cup of tea and bowl of soup required a 30 minute rest afterwards, hell could n't even play on PS2! But apparently footballers are paid so much money that they are imune to such afflictions, I wonder what the FA/Premier League would have done if all the Spurs players were "signed off" by a doctor?

3. No, of the squad of 18 who travelled at least 10 were seriously ill.

4. No absolutley not, totally injust. However I was unaware that there is a written law that the FA Cup Final MUST be the last domestic game of the season......If the Goons can replay a cup tie due to a very minor complaint from their vile manager then please explain why a league match cannot be replayed?

I agree with your final comment but having spent the majority of the season in the driving seat, to lose our position in the manner which we have is very painful. In addition, the attitudue of the press and various sporting "personalities" has been universally unsympathetic and outright hostile. Are we supposed to believe that had the same thing happened to Arsenal on Sunday or Liverpool next week, there would not have been some form of compromise to allow a fair contest, after all it is my understanding that the definition of sport is "Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively", NOTE, note "uncompetitively, with one arm tied behind back".

[Welsh Spur]

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, eh?

[shoot_ffs]

as i said before, if spurs were forced to play when they were unfit to compete, which prozone would surely prove or disprove, then the FA can just say to west ham replay it. I think in the event that something happened to fix the game then they would have to. Fifa might be a problem, but they are already arguing about a sevilla v barca replay which will be after the cut off for final games, due to both teams being in euro finals. It shouldn't make any difference to west ham, in fact they should be glad to replay it. If an english team has been nobbled before a game, then they should happily replay it in the interests of fair play and not allowing crooks to get away with things like this. I don't see why it couldn't be played on the same night as barca v arsenal, or the night after if the outcome is what's important. Any legal challenge might not be worth it if arsenal win the CL, as it would only be worth 500k for the league position. I totally understand west ham not wanting to play before the fa cup final that's not an issue. Then again if it goes to extra time and pens, any game in the following days would be tough for them to play. Having said that, if the FA say play, you have to or take the consequences, as we found it.
I think if the players have been poisoned, and the prozone stats say we couldn't compete, then we might have a case with the FA. Fifa i'm sure could allow us another week to play the game. On the ther hand, anyone who was planning to nobble a team like this, would surely have used something that was impossible to trace, if there is such a thing. Gonna be an interesting week, especially with the news from italy.

[spurs61]

Just been sent this by someone ITK;

Sepp Blatter's comments on the situation;

he said there was no valid reason for the Premier League to turn down the request for a postponement as long as the game was played before 15 May, he even insinuated that has Spurs come straight to UEFA they would have agreed to the request.

C'mon Sepp, the scum may have Dein on the Premier League panel but we've got Blatter the Batter

[Welsh Spur]

Now they tell us....

I dont want to use an excuse for not finishing 4th, but it seems increasingly likely there may be a strong case here....if we cant get a replay then some lovely cash would be great to finance Martin's summer plans!

[spurs61]

Definatley, I'm not even asking for a replay. What I'd really like is another £10mil and a bye in the UEFA cup to the point when all the Champions League sides join in.

[mjbmedia]

WTF is french cock sucker Henry saying we should lump it for, he says get over it its just like the scum earlier in the season having 9 players out injured, noone said reply their games!!!!!

ehh yes you arrogant frog queer its a bit different having players out injured on long term injuries that you know about for a while before your match, to having ten guys go down with serious food poisoning hours before a crunch match.

someone break his leg ffs or better still his neck , come on Puyol hit the bumbandit hard

[Welsh Spur]

AGGRESSIVE! but i like it, Henry is an amazing player but he also has the customary french arrogance unfortunately. What a ****.

[marcusto]

This does make Spurs look very bitter and a bunch of bad losers.... Not that I agree with that... but what doesn't look good is the fact David Dien sitting on the FA and it was they that said the game would not be moved to a later date... Wonder what would happen if Arsenal 1st team had food poisining??? Also the whole Asian betting ring... with alot of money riding on Arsenal finishing 4th....

Is it a conspiricy or just plain bad luck?

[Chinaman]

Of course a conspiracy. In fact a double conspiracy as the poisoning seems to be linked to betting and that gave Dein the chance for the second plot to deny us our legitimate postponement.

[Cockymick]

At least Spain has the right idea. In January the Cup tie between Atletico Madrid and Real Zaragoza had to be postponed after 14 Atletico players went down with food poisoning.

The players were left vomiting and suffering from stomach pains plus diarrhoea after dinner at a training camp.

[JuicE]

I'm getting really pissed off with everyone comparing our food poisoning to having players out injured. Gooners claiming that this is the same and that they should replay the games that they lost when their players were injured is like comparing apples with mercedes!:rolleyes: (Exactly)
****ing arseholes are stupid! what would Wenger be saying if tables were turned? Or Mourinho, Fergie, Allardyce?????????
You wouldn't hear the last of it.
OK! were looking a bit stupid asking for a replay but no other options were given to us. Others may be making fun of us and good luck to them. We would do the same and so would they if they were 5th and not 4th due to very dodgy circumstances!

Sick of this shit - find me a gooner!!!!!!!!:mad:

[shoot_ffs]

yer we haven't complained about our injuries 4 of which would have been first team players. It is the reason why we were short, and regardless of whether you have 7 fit players or not, there's no saying they would all be in different positions. I must say having read levy's letter, i think the FA are in deep doodoo over this. If they haven't treated us fairly they is gonna get sued big time. Well done levy for sticking to your guns. Will be interesting to see if uefa force sevilla and barca to replay their postponed game before the 15th, as barca are refusing to play it with the final a few days later. Not sure what it maens for the spanish league positions, but if that takes place after the CL final, so should the west ham game.

[mjbmedia]

lets wreck Ashburton Grove next season, welcome to your new home you scum ,hopefully youre a bit further away from The Lane now so we dont have to make sure the winds blowing in the right direction so we cant smell your French bullshit

[Welsh Spur]

There seems to be a cover-up somewhere and whilst a replay was never going to happen just getting to the truth, so we can all put the matter to bed, is essential. As a spectator it never looked like Spurs would bottle it, everytime anyone's come close we've held our own under pressure this season. And on the last day, they get poisoned and lose, out-of-character.

[Welsh Spur]

Why dont they understand a few injuries is not the same as a deliberate bout of food poisoning? And it's them prolonging this, I don't want to talk bout it anymore!