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Neil_Vaughan
2nd April 2007, 01:38 AM
Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

Gino Ginelli
2nd April 2007, 10:28 AM
Need to learn to finish for this one lads.

Welsh Spur
2nd April 2007, 01:57 PM
I really have no idea on the outcome of the first, it will only serve to help me figure the result of the 2nd leg. I can't say I've been keeping tabs on Sevilla to have an idea of how it will go. But it's a big game, my stomach turns upside down when I think about it.

Happy with :
A Draw
Away Goal(s)

Won't be too disappointed with a narrow 1 goal defeat in which we score, as I do feel we should have enough quality to win at home.

Obviously overjoyed if we manage to come away with a victory.

The midfield really needs to perform if we're to win this QF. And the lads need to find their shooting boots too. And fast.

Ah, lets face it, nothing but a clear sight of the finish line will end any of our nerves at any point, not until the whistle blows for the last time. Let's just hope for the best.

SurreySpur
2nd April 2007, 02:05 PM
At least we're on ITV1 instead of channel 5. Although it looks like Matt Smith is presenting, shame coz i wanted to see how many times BMJ could call Gabby Yorath darling in the post match interview!!

Welsh Spur
2nd April 2007, 02:07 PM
At least we're on ITV1 instead of channel 5. Although it looks like Matt Smith is presenting, shame coz i wanted to see how many times BMJ could call Gabby Yorath darling in the post match interview!!

Is the game on Thursday on ITV1?

SurreySpur
2nd April 2007, 02:07 PM
Will Tainio be fit for the game? i think he could be a key player in this one, the spaniards keep the ball well and we could do with teemu in there along with zokora.

SurreySpur
2nd April 2007, 02:08 PM
Is the game on Thursday on ITV1?

Yeah, Thursday 7.30pm ITV1

Welsh Spur
2nd April 2007, 02:09 PM
Will Tainio be fit for the game? i think he could be a key player in this one, the spaniards keep the ball well and we could do with teemu in there along with zokora.

Zokora seems to be finally settling into the side. I knew he'd come good. He's looking more and more like the player I saw before he came here. It's baffling he's taken so long though, his style and engine make him well-suited to the English game. His first touch was awful when he started but I think he's realised he can't have that much time on the ball over here now.

It says that Tainio is out for 5 days on the injury thingy on 4thegame.com. It also says the same for King, who there is an article about on the bbc website claiming that he has said he will be fit for Chelsea away but Jol won't risk him.

SurreySpur
2nd April 2007, 02:15 PM
No point rushing king back, we're in sixth place and we've done that without him, we should just let him recover 100% and not risk a reaction. Lets just welcome him back for the Uefa Cup Final!! ;)

Spur
2nd April 2007, 02:30 PM
As much as I want to be, i'm not at all confident going into this one.

wayne wonder
2nd April 2007, 02:53 PM
I think we can get a good result out there deffo!!

We're gonna concede make no bone about that as stalteri's gonna hev to play :rolleyes: make shift back 4 of stalteri, chimbo, THE DAWS and Lee!!

Daws will have to carry them by himself..........AGAIN!!

COYS!!!!

SurreySpur
2nd April 2007, 02:56 PM
I think we can get a good result out there deffo!!

We're gonna concede make no bone about that as stalteri's gonna hev to play :rolleyes: make shift back 4 of stalteri, chimbo, THE DAWS and Lee!!

Daws will have to carry them by himself..........AGAIN!!

COYS!!!!


I forgot about Rocha being out. We'll concede but i think berby will score, i can actually see us sneaking a win over there!!

olly27
2nd April 2007, 03:53 PM
am going for a 1-1 - which I will be pleased with...berby to score :cool:

wayne wonder
2nd April 2007, 03:58 PM
I forgot about Rocha being out. We'll concede but i think berby will score, i can actually see us sneaking a win over there!!

Yep we're pretty stuffed!! But i reckon we'll win and berby scoring would be greeat cant wait till next season when he get more goals in the leaue too

Ginola's Son
2nd April 2007, 04:41 PM
People are forgetting Stalteri's heroics of a few weeks ago

jrio
2nd April 2007, 04:45 PM
Just noticed ITV 4 are showing Bayer/Osasuna, AZ/Bremen and Espanyol/Benfica between 6 and 11.45pm on Thursday.

Chewy
2nd April 2007, 04:47 PM
King is apparently fit for Saturday but we're not going to risk him, I think this could mean he'll be playing next week in the home leg.

With our make shift defence, our only option is to attack. We will concede so berbatov and keane better have their shooting boots on :)

Spur
2nd April 2007, 05:25 PM
I didn't like Chimbo at centre back, I'd rather play Zokora at the back with Huddlestone and Teemu centre midfield. Failing Teemu then Ghaly, or failing that then one of the youth team.

olly27
2nd April 2007, 06:07 PM
I read somewhere that it maybe the Wigan game on the 15th that King returns..

mjbmedia
2nd April 2007, 09:27 PM
dont think king should return unless he's 150% fit and the bones are totally healed . id rather write him off for the season and have him 190% next season cos you know he'll break down if we bring him back soon.

V seville i think we'll lose 3-1 away and win 4-1 at home aet.
hope chelsea get bad bad injuries in their champions league game

hastingsyid
2nd April 2007, 10:32 PM
draw away and do the tossers at home

Gino Ginelli
3rd April 2007, 09:31 AM
Agree about ledley, no way should he play this season, he needs a full summer's rest to completely heal.

I actually thought Chimbo was a bit of a hero at CB for us. Wouldn't have a problem with that. Not sure Zokora's concentration levels and discipline are high enough for CB.

Ginola's Son
3rd April 2007, 01:11 PM
I wish this game wasn't on thurs, I may have to sack off an easter drink up at work to watch the game.

MiloMinderbinder
3rd April 2007, 02:18 PM
Anyone know if we asked for the Chel$ki game to be moved back to the Sunday? I would love to have seen the vitriol eminating from the Bridge had the shoe been on the other foot, all you'd hear would be accusations of biased against them etc, we on the other hand just get on with it and mark it down to a symptom of relative success. £ and $ doesn't buy you class does it!;)

I am watching this game from behind the sofa, gauging how well we do based on the level and intensity of noise. If we can get out of there with a draw or a one goal defeat it would be a very good result to take back to the Lane, the chances of us winning in Seville are slim to anorexic. Not looking forward to Dani Alves against our left side, that may well be the key to the tie, perhaps play a more combative player than Steed in the away leg or play Lennon on the left in order to push Alves back (yeah right, he's a Brazilian fullback) ah now I'm debating with myself, surely a sign of anxiety:eek: .

SurreySpur
3rd April 2007, 02:33 PM
Am i the only one who is feeling fairly relaxed about this game?

MiloMinderbinder
3rd April 2007, 02:43 PM
Am i the only one who is feeling fairly relaxed about this game?

I should imagine so. I've got a henry in just for the game, will be washing it down with scotch and possibly a couple of valiums and I'll still be as tense as the rope around Saddams neck.

Course, it could just be that either a) you don't care enough, b) we care too much c) you soul has been sucked out by the evil beings that reside in Surrey and have been replaced with a heartless spirit akin to those who follow the hoards and minnions of Beelzebub aka Gooners.....I just don't know.....:p

SurreySpur
3rd April 2007, 02:51 PM
I should imagine so. I've got a henry in just for the game, will be washing it down with scotch and possibly a couple of valiums and I'll still be as tense as the rope around Saddams neck.

Course, it could just be that either a) you don't care enough, b) we care too much c) you soul has been sucked out by the evil beings that reside in Surrey and have been replaced with a heartless spirit akin to those who follow the hoards and minnions of Beelzebub aka Gooners.....I just don't know.....:p

I care about Spurs as much as anyone on this board but i just feel that we have enough about us to turn them over in both legs. Ive seen them quite a few times this season and i haven't really been all that impressed, La Liga has been weaker this season than in recent years. Sevilla have players that can hurt us but i think we have more than enough to beat them! My only worry is the referee being suckered into all the theatrics that we will see from the greasy mob.

Im just very confident about this one. The pace of European football seems to suit our young team and i think we'll continue our good form. We'll spank the spaniards at the Lane, no doubt about it.

MiloMinderbinder
3rd April 2007, 03:35 PM
I care about Spurs as much as anyone on this board but i just feel that we have enough about us to turn them over in both legs. Ive seen them quite a few times this season and i haven't really been all that impressed, La Liga has been weaker this season than in recent years. Sevilla have players that can hurt us but i think we have more than enough to beat them! My only worry is the referee being suckered into all the theatrics that we will see from the greasy mob.

Im just very confident about this one. The pace of European football seems to suit our young team and i think we'll continue our good form. We'll spank the spaniards at the Lane, no doubt about it.

I know, I was just being pithy as per usual, but you bit, so expect a barrage of mirth from all and sundry.

Sevilla have been top 3 all season, as you say La Liga hasn't been upto it's usual standards this season, mainly due to the defensive nature of many of the smaller teams and even some of the biggers teams (Depor and Los Ches I'm talking to you) hell even Real have been somewhat subdued. However, this would belie how good Sevilla are, they have attackers to scare most sides and in Poulsen one of the best holding players around and a couple of defenders who will stand up to be counted in Escude and Alfaro, they do have a weak link at goalie but as with 99% of keepers he'll have a blinder against us. On paper it's very close, with Sevilla perhaps having the advantage due to their experience in Europe recently. I fear Chevanton and Alves far more than I do Kanoute who I feel we can handle. Of course what many are forgetting is that we only have one centrehalf avalilable for the away leg, which could be very telling.

SurreySpur
3rd April 2007, 03:49 PM
If we give Chevanton, fabiano, alves or maresca too much space we could be severely punished, Zokora and Tainio(if fit) need to be really focused for the 90mis. Poulsen is a good player and i expect Lennon or steed to play inside for a large part of the game to keep him busy, a lot of their posession goes through him.
Id like to see Chimbonda playing at Centreback with (super paul) Stalteri in at right back.

Spur
3rd April 2007, 04:12 PM
Twould appear i'm am the only one who thought that Chimbonda went walkies a bit too much in his previous appearance at centre back...

SurreySpur
3rd April 2007, 04:15 PM
I just think he's the best option for this game, would you prefer to put Zokora in there?

highlander
3rd April 2007, 05:43 PM
i dont see the uncertainty over Chimbonda at centre back. he's strong, deceptively solid in the air and his pace makes up Dawsons lack there of. im fairly confident going into this game that we will get an acceptable result. i doubt we'll win but it wouldnt suprise me, our run in Europe and performances have been excellent and i think we can beat anyone anywhere

Spur
3rd April 2007, 06:55 PM
Yes Surrey I would. I know at least that Didier Zokora will spend the game at centre back, rather than pushing out wide at any given opportunity. He'll also run the ball out of the back alot, I would hope anyway, and I like that. It's something I think every team should have, a twenty yard run up pitch from your centre back immediately gives your team an attacking prerogative and puts the opposition on the back foot.

Just a edit to say seems as though Teemu may be back, but Huddlestone won't be making it- out with a knee injury...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/european_football/article1610081.ece

mjbmedia
3rd April 2007, 07:14 PM
He'll also run the ball out of the back alot, I would hope anyway, and I like that. It's something I think every team should have, a twenty yard run up pitch from your centre back immediately gives your team an attacking prerogative and puts the opposition on the back foot.


yeh i like that too, as long as theres cover there for it, ahh thats where JJ comes in :D
everyone one else in midfield but he and tainio would go forwards seeking the glory , god bless JJ!!!

Spur
3rd April 2007, 07:29 PM
yeh i like that too, as long as theres cover there for it, ahh thats where JJ comes in :D
everyone one else in midfield but he and tainio would go forwards seeking the glory , god bless JJ!!!

The sad thing is Jenas would probably stand there and watch as the opposition runs by him, or even he wins the ball and gives it straight back to them.

It's a vicious cycle.

berbzy 'G'
3rd April 2007, 08:24 PM
Don't worry boys, were electic in europe, I just wish west ham were in europe so we could have kocked them out...lol???

Sevilla:

1st leg: 0 1

2nd leg 1 0

:(

gazzaG8
3rd April 2007, 09:43 PM
hopefully we can nick it, but they're not 2nd in La liga for nothing i'm going for 0-0 then we'll do them at home

Gregzy
4th April 2007, 12:32 AM
Twould appear i'm am the only one who thought that Chimbonda went walkies a bit too much in his previous appearance at centre back...

Nope, you aren't alone in that...

I can't say I have a huge ammount of confidence in this match, but I do think we have the quality to come through the tie victorious. Problem is, as most people have outlined, we need to do our best to keep Seville's goal-scoring to a minimum with a make-shift defence. Spirit is going to play a big part in this, and I'm not just talking about KK's intake over ninety minutes...

Gino Ginelli
4th April 2007, 08:26 AM
I had a gander at Sevilla on Revisita La Liga this morning. The thing I noticed from the games I saw is that a lot of goals seem to be scored but that tends to be more because of the ineptitude of the defending rather than the dynamism of the attack. I dunno... the quality of football just seems a little... raggy. I think if we keep our discipline, and Tainio starts with Zokora in CM, I think we can contain them and allow our big 4 - Berba, Keano, Lennon and Steed - to unlock them.

As for Zokora, I think Chimbo is simply a better defender than him, more composed. Also, if Zokora was in defence, then Jenas would certainly play in CM, and I do not need lax passing and apathy in this game!

And for the record, I like CB's to stay there, not go flying up the pitch.

wayne wonder
4th April 2007, 09:08 AM
Im confident that we'll get a good result whether it be a win or draw!!

We're not stupid so a clean sheet is out of the window but we'll score i reckon 2 goals the very least.

**** em who are they??? if we get into them there's no stopping us im more worried about the chelshit game saturday haha.


Realistically we can do damage just hope we dont concede in the 1st 20mins because they'll attack us like ****s i reckon.

Spur
4th April 2007, 03:58 PM
Also, if Zokora was in defence, then Jenas would certainly play in CM, and I do not need lax passing and apathy in this game!

With Huddlestone now injured I have no option but to agree. At the end of the day it comes down to who you'd rather have on the field...Jenas or Stalteri...?

Stalteri for me, so Zokora and Teemu in the middle it is.

After all this ****ing Jenas off watch him score a hat-trick...Still, I won't complain, i'd love for him to make me look a fool. It's just never going to happen though...

\jackdaw
4th April 2007, 05:43 PM
Reguardless of who plays where this is going to be a very tough match. If we come out losing and score an away goal I will be happy and to be honest I cant see us beating them in Spain.

2-1 to Seville will be a good result for us as we will beat them at the lane no question.

If we get a draw or even *fingers crossed* a win I will be over the moon.

Chewy
4th April 2007, 06:01 PM
Would it be worth it to risk 3-5-2?

Chimbonda Dawson Lee
----------Zokora
Lennon Jenas Tainio Malbranque
----------Keane
----------Berbatov


3-5-2 on paper but really a 3-6-1...flood the mid-field and leave berbatov on his own. His best performance has come from when hes played on his own against bolton.

SurreySpur
4th April 2007, 06:05 PM
Would it be worth it to risk 3-5-2?

Chimbonda Dawson Lee
----------Zokora
Lennon Jenas Tainio Malbranque
----------Keane
----------Berbatov


I know what your getting at but it would be an awful big risk in such a huge game. I'd prefer to see a solid 4-4-2 with keano dropping deep to make a 5 in midfield when needed.

jrio
5th April 2007, 12:26 AM
Would it be worth it to risk 3-5-2?

Chimbonda Dawson Lee
----------Zokora
Lennon Jenas Tainio Malbranque
----------Keane
----------Berbatov


3-5-2 on paper but really a 3-6-1...flood the mid-field and leave berbatov on his own. His best performance has come from when hes played on his own against bolton.

Sheer lunacy and a fan's formation. Should be Zokora/Tainio in the centre with Lennon left and Jenas right. Also, you've hyphenated midfield for no obvious reason, although in retrospect perhaps due to the flooding.

Gregzy
5th April 2007, 12:48 AM
Sheer lunacy and a fan's formation

Yep, the 3-5-2 is, in principle at least a wonderful thing but you don't win anything with it. My Champ Manager results got much better when I realised that...

Gino Ginelli
5th April 2007, 09:52 AM
Aww crap, I've gotta go out for a work piss up tonight! We'd better get a bar showing the game, but where the hell am I gonna find a bar in Geordieland showing Spurs?! Especially when they've been knocked out and they get bitter about that sort of thing...

Spur
5th April 2007, 10:07 AM
I actually think we'll be seeing our 5 across the middle tonight. Think when we play Chelsea. It keeps the full backs back, and if they go forward there's holes in the defence immediately for Berbatov, Lennon or Keane to get into.

Playing Teemu and Zokora in the middle with A.N.Other, likely to be Jenas unfortunately, will give our full-back-come-centre-back added protection from the evil people that is the Spaniards.

I might have money on Jenas to score if it seems we will play 5 through the middle though, if he's good for anything it's during this flooded strategy that you should see it. Actually, **** that, it seems a whole waste of money.

For some reason i've woken up strangely optimistic. I feel that Spurs shall score dos golas, i'm not going to comment on the conceding part of the game though...

MaccYid
5th April 2007, 10:58 AM
I think it's crucial we get a goal, we will probably concede a goal at home to them, therefore we must nick one tonight.

I am going for a 1-1 or 2-1 to Seville (having said that i can feel a 2-0 Spurs win on the horizon...... just don't want to tempt fate, **** it, i have now)

Chewy
5th April 2007, 01:38 PM
Nerves have settled in now lol My money is on stalteri to become an even bigger legend and to score tonight.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 01:40 PM
Nerves have settled in now lol My money is on stalteri to become an even bigger legend and to score tonight.

You're a very brave man!! Ive got a sneaking feeling that we'll see Dawson or Chimbonda get on the end of a set-piece.

Chewy
5th April 2007, 01:45 PM
You're a very brave man!! Ive got a sneaking feeling that we'll see Dawson or Chimbonda get on the end of a set-piece.

Figure of speech - I didn't actually put a bet on :cool: I'm not a betting man lol

spurs61
5th April 2007, 02:13 PM
Ooooh nervous!!!! Anyone else not able to think about anything else other than the game? Lucky I'm on gardening leave for the next month, I couldn't do any work today!

I'm going for a one or two goal draw with Daws getting on the end of a corner (not sure which end though!;) )

COYS!!!

Gino Ginelli
5th April 2007, 03:32 PM
Actually I'm trying to work out how to;

a) persuade a load of geordies to find a bar with the Spurs game on, or
b) get out of this altogether to get home

Actually, after a couple of pints they may not notice either way

suBerb
5th April 2007, 03:50 PM
Ooooh nervous!!!! Anyone else not able to think about anything else other than the game?

:D :D :D Me mate

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 03:57 PM
Actually I'm trying to work out how to;

a) persuade a load of geordies to find a bar with the Spurs game on, or
b) get out of this altogether to get home

Actually, after a couple of pints they may not notice either way

Just say you had a dodgy bottle of newcastle brown ale last night and need to go to bed

Gino Ginelli
5th April 2007, 04:28 PM
All bottles of Newcy Brown are dodgy! :)

wayne wonder
5th April 2007, 04:38 PM
I've been confident all day and its scaring me now it's not good!!!

Anyway roll on tonight then roll on bank holiday drinkfest :cool:

highlander
5th April 2007, 05:27 PM
to me this seems like the best game to use Berbatov & Mido up front together, or certainly try it in this game. we could do with their collective strenght and ariel ability as this is the away leg of the tie. doubt it will happen but id like to see it tonight

Chewy
5th April 2007, 06:07 PM
to me this seems like the best game to use Berbatov & Mido up front together, or certainly try it in this game. we could do with their collective strenght and ariel ability as this is the away leg of the tie. doubt it will happen but id like to see it tonight

Wouldn't be worth the risk in such a big game. Why break up such a good partnership of Keane and Berbatov. Mido shouldn't even be on the bench (although i'd love him to come on and prove me wrong). :)

I would take a 2-1 defeat...a tight lose as long as we get an away goal.

Spur
5th April 2007, 06:22 PM
We are Tottenham Hotspur! We don't go in to lose! We must settle for nothing less than a four nil victory!

Spur
5th April 2007, 07:15 PM
Spurs: Robinson, Stalteri, Chimbonda, Dawson, YP Lee, Lennon, Zokora, Jenas, Tainio, Berbatov, Keane. Subs: Cerny, Defoe, Taarabt, Malbranque, Ghaly, Mido, Ifil.

And there is the victorious team. Expect 5 in the middle. I'm off to have a drink to calm the nerves.

COYS

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 07:29 PM
Does anyone know how many players we already have on a yellow card?

hodgy
5th April 2007, 07:46 PM
the wifes gone out. the football's on, the cider's chilled. come on you spurs.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 07:47 PM
Come On You Spurs!!!!!!!

I LOVE THESE EUROPEAN NIGHTS!!!!

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 07:47 PM
Chimbo and Berby have yellows.

hodgy
5th April 2007, 07:48 PM
keano. goalllllll

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 07:48 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

****ing Get In!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Keano Keano Keano

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 07:51 PM
**** me what a start .. COME ON YOU MIGHTY SPURS

jrio
5th April 2007, 07:56 PM
Very confident start. Berb looks on fire. One worry would be picking up bookings - Tainio looks as though he'll get one soon; another would be any time Stalteri gets involved.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:04 PM
Does anyone else think that this game will get really niggly later?

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:05 PM
That is not a ****ing penalty, thats as clear as ****ing day. Useless ****

hodgy
5th April 2007, 08:06 PM
the ref owes us. that was shocking :mad: :mad:

shakey18
5th April 2007, 08:07 PM
total ****in disgrace

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 08:08 PM
Hard call for the ref that .. if it was a pen for us we would of taken it.

They still dont look that dangerous at the moment but our passing is very sloppy.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:09 PM
The ball changed direction, surely thats the first thing the ref should look at!! Every ****ing decision is going sevilla's way

hodgy
5th April 2007, 08:10 PM
how can that be a hard call for the ref. which way did the ball go

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 08:12 PM
Easy to see that with all the replays but when it happens real time its not so easy.

Perhaps decisions like that should use replays with an independent monitor like the 4th official.

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 08:14 PM
Another thing I thought of.. the refs from Luxemburg if I remember right .. what first class matches do they have in Luxemburg !!

A higher quality ref should of been used.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:15 PM
Would it be worthwhile putting teemu in the middle and sticking jenas out wide coz he doing **** all!!

hodgy
5th April 2007, 08:21 PM
stick jenas out wide pref on the bench

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 08:23 PM
Wonder what the odds are for a red card before the end of this match.

hodgy
5th April 2007, 08:24 PM
am i watching a different game to the ref. why was that a free kck in the first place

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:25 PM
I couldn't tell you mate. The ref is awful

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 08:26 PM
He gave a free kick cuz the guy in white lost the ball ...

First bit of real dodgy defending by us ... lets hope its the last.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:34 PM
Spaniards fall over a lot, must be something in the water!! Im going to my local tapas bar tomorrow to see if the waiters fall over if breathed upon!!

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 08:35 PM
Why did Lee get the yellow for that.. never touched the player and took the ball .. this ref really is a joke

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 08:38 PM
2-1 down at half time .. not the end of the world. Apart from the goal the defence hasnt been too bad, its been a lot worse this season. Most of their chances have come from long shots which in a way can be scarey with Robbo's record with long shots.

In the second half would like to see Steed come on for Jenas at some stage, perhaps Taarabt on for Tanio and push Steed into the middle and play with 2 wingers, they dont seem to like people running at them.

Get Keano to run his bollocks off for 20 mins or so and bring on Defoe as a fresh pair of legs to get the winning goal.. 8)

shakey18
5th April 2007, 08:39 PM
Plus we're all having to put up with John Champion and David ****in Pleat!.I wish they would shut the **** up.The ref is having a ****in mare.

jrio
5th April 2007, 08:39 PM
The ref's unbelievably poor. Just whistles for every bit of contact and looks as though he learnt about refereeing through a book yesterday and is applying everything by the book. There's a real danger we could concede a few goals in the second half. Concentrating on snuffing out Alves has given us no left-side presence and Lennon is being easily blocked out. Berb is trying too many fancy flicks that the players around him either cannot read or control. Jenas appears to have disappeared. Tainio's booking was derisive and he could well end up being sent off. We need to get some control in midfield which we had until the penalty. This is where the lack of leadership really tells.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:56 PM
This ref is a ****. That was a corner!! this bloke is a joke.

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 08:56 PM
Jenas is offering nothing at all. Absolutley Nothing

hodgy
5th April 2007, 08:56 PM
why no corner. why a drop ball?????

jrio
5th April 2007, 08:58 PM
If you can't get simple, clear decisions right you shouldn't be in the job. For us, the problem is it turns the ref into a rabid "homer".

hodgy
5th April 2007, 09:00 PM
homer would do a better job

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 09:02 PM
Diving cheating greasy ******s

jrio
5th April 2007, 09:03 PM
Ridiculous. That we should concede possession because a player holds his head after a hand in the face. Ignore the bleatings of the players and the crowd booing - you get that anyway in tough games.

hodgy
5th April 2007, 09:06 PM
the penalty was for the second contact. what the ****.

jrio
5th April 2007, 09:13 PM
Simply the ref covering up his grotesque error.

wayne wonder
5th April 2007, 09:14 PM
Jenas is a **** and i cant even be arsed to mention his name after this post he doesn't exist to me!!

Even if the **** scores he's a ****ing ***** show a bit of fight for the cause u ******:mad: :mad:

wayne wonder
5th April 2007, 09:15 PM
Now both fullbacks are ****ed and jol stands there like a limp dick!!!

**** SAKE MAN

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 09:17 PM
Jenas is a **** and i cant even be arsed to mention his name after this post he doesn't exist to me!!

Even if the **** scores he's a ****ing ***** show a bit of fight for the cause u ******:mad: :mad:

Dont beat about the bush tell us what you really mean .. :p

wayne wonder
5th April 2007, 09:17 PM
Dont beat about the bush tell us what you really mean .. :p

Hahaha i really mean i love him and want his kids :rolleyes:

COYS!!

hodgy
5th April 2007, 09:21 PM
please tell me we have not got this ref in the 2nd leg.

wayne wonder
5th April 2007, 09:23 PM
please tell me we have not got this ref in the 2nd leg.

I hope not he's a ****ing **** who's bumming kanoute

shakey18
5th April 2007, 09:35 PM
Jenes can learn from Keano-working his ass off

shakey18
5th April 2007, 09:36 PM
What a shocking ****in dive!!!

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 09:37 PM
this is THE WORST REFEREE I HAVE EVER SEEN

shakey18
5th April 2007, 09:38 PM
Better team 2nd half-We can take these!! COYS!!!!!!!!!!1

wayne wonder
5th April 2007, 09:38 PM
What a shocking ****in dive!!!

Thats the worst dive i've seen EVER!!!:eek:

Im happy with that considering the rubbish ref

SurreySpur
5th April 2007, 09:39 PM
We're going to ****ing murder that shower of cheating greasy ****s at the Lane. That dive towards the end was shocking.

That game has left me feeling really furious.

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 09:39 PM
How he didnt get a card for that blatent dive I dont know

AssaTM
5th April 2007, 09:42 PM
2-1, not bad at all, i'd have probably taken that if it was the only thing on offer to me/us, King to be back for the 2nd leg, neither Berbatov or Chimbo are suspended, no fresh injury worries, and with the way we play at home and with the away goal I still highly fancy our chances and every Spurs fan should feel the same way, it's by no means over, and we still have a great chance, so cmon lads lets do them at the Lane, COYS!!!!

\jackdaw
5th April 2007, 09:42 PM
I cant see it being too much of a problem in the second leg, we played 99% of the match with 10 men and we didnt play well.

If the boys get their act together in the second leg its ours for the taking.

We do need a stronger referee who actually knows what he is doing instead of some second rate **** from Luxemburg who has to clear sheep off the field before they can start a match.

If I was MJ I wouls swallow the 20k fine and say what a **** the ref was.

shakey18
5th April 2007, 09:44 PM
You tell em Keano!!-The ref does NOT know the rules! Prick

hodgy
5th April 2007, 09:45 PM
am i upset. i don't really know. 2-1 away. not bad the ref was a ****ing muppet to say the least. a penalty that never was. there constant play acting summed up by the dive at the end was more than annoying. roll on next week when we can kick some ass.

wayne wonder
5th April 2007, 09:46 PM
im lost for words what a ****ing prat the ref is

Spur
5th April 2007, 09:48 PM
Referee had about as good a game as any of our players though.

I have to say I was nearly crying after half an hour. We was completely outplayed. Take away the fact they are second, and an incredibly good side - we were ****ing shit. I can't remember one run Lennon had. I don't remember seeing any Dimi-magic. Keane was our best, but I don't think he had a great game at all.

That's my comments on that match, I still feel sick talking about it. I can't believe he gave a penalty still...

AssaTM
5th April 2007, 10:59 PM
Damn some of you guys are taking it too badly, was I the only one that felt getting an away goal and only being one behind Sevilla at full time was a good, or more like, encouraging result? not necesarilly a good result but certainly not a bad one, it gives us a 100% chance to go through now so keep your chins up, all this complaining takes away the fact we have a great great chance of going through now

suBerb
6th April 2007, 06:35 AM
I think some mates here complain too much. The only reason we lost was the referee. Some weeks ago Sevilla beat Barca with 10 men (due to a red card). The second half we controlled the ball longer. The main problem was the lack of good passes to Berba. He was the only one who could pass through balls. The second half he was forced to drop deep to get the ball more often. This indicates once again we need two class midfielders in the summer. Tainio, Mal, and Jenas aren't good enough imho. Berba was so disappointed after the game yesterday that he rejected to give an interview for Bulgarian media. Hopefully, he will be on fire at WHL.

Before the game Berba's agent said Berba snubbed an offer from Sevilla in the summer of 2005.

peterc
6th April 2007, 09:25 AM
Referee had about as good a game as any of our players though.

I have to say I was nearly crying after half an hour. We was completely outplayed. Take away the fact they are second, and an incredibly good side - we were ****ing shit. I can't remember one run Lennon had. I don't remember seeing any Dimi-magic. Keane was our best, but I don't think he had a great game at all.

That's my comments on that match, I still feel sick talking about it. I can't believe he gave a penalty still...

Are you seriously a Spurs supporter or a very negative person?, how can you state that such comments?. Your comments anger me cos it's so called supporters like you who are never happy no matter what.

mjbmedia
6th April 2007, 09:49 AM
hes a wingebag dont worry. :p

we done good considering after 30 minutes we realised we darent make a proper tackle else seville would get a free kick . the first 30 we were going into the challenges but then the ref had a brainstorm like the typical French? **** he is? and stated giving fouls for winning the ball. unfortunately no one told Robbo!!

it was ok and we're still fit enough to turn over chelsea

Spur
6th April 2007, 10:21 AM
Are you seriously a Spurs supporter or a very negative person?, how can you state that such comments?. Your comments anger me cos it's so called supporters like you who are never happy no matter what.

You havin' a laugh?

I'm an easily pleased person but when I watch us get placed in another teams pocket with no escape it sort of makes me a little upset. I can't think of any other way to describe that game than completely outplayed.

No rose-tinted view over here Pete. Just realistic.

Ginola's Son
6th April 2007, 10:30 AM
I think 2-1 at their place is an incredibly good result. Especially when they had a 12th man, and were diving little pussies. The penalty was an atrocious decision, but sometimes these decisions go for you. Sometimes not, Robbo should have been applauded for a great take.

We have the away goal, and the impetus to cause an upset at the lane. They are the second best team in Spain, and in the second half, I felt we were the better side. We lived with a team that is certain to be playing champions league next season, and thats with a makeshift defence.

We did ourselves proud, stop the griping, if we were going to lose, that was the best possible score.

suBerb
6th April 2007, 10:41 AM
I can't think of any other way to describe that game than completely outplayed.



Mate I think you seriously distort the facts.

Before the undeserved penalty we made them looking crap, they didn't create anything dangerous.

In the second half, they diidn't outplay us, wasn't this pretty obvious? :rolleyes:

We played well and werent' completely outplayed. Spanish media praise us.

Spur
6th April 2007, 11:20 AM
I think we have the defence to thank for making us look anything other than poor.

I'm not denying it's not a decent score, we should have lost that game 3 or 4 nil, to get out with 2-1 is quality. But after the second minute we created little. Keane's chance. That's about it really no? Maybe a couple of other half chances but going forward we were worse than poor. We couldn't keep the ball, we couldn't pass the ball, we couldn't get hold of the ball, up until about the 85th minute when Sevilla retreated into their own half and handed us the attacking baton.

Don't get me wrong, i'm pleased with the result. At half time I would have bitten someone's hand off to get the hell out of their with 2-1, but the performance was woeful.

Like I said before, which apparently people are ignoring, take away the fact they are one of the top teams in the world right now, take away the fact we were playing Sevilla, the second top team in Spain, and probably the team with best form over the season, we played poor.

If we had played well someone here would be able to give me some examples of when our best players did anything creative. I bet your thinking of them now, and struggling to count to all the fingers on one hand.

suBerb
6th April 2007, 11:38 AM
Like I said before, which apparently people are ignoring, take away the fact they are one of the top teams in the world right now, take away the fact we were playing Sevilla, the second top team in Spain, and probably the team with best form over the season, we played poor.


It's pointless to take away from these facts, for how good you play depends on the opposition. We played well, Spanish fans and yournalists say it. They compare our performance to that of Real and Barca who were beaten at this stadium. We cannot smash them on their ground, stats show we've created as many chances as they have.

olly27
6th April 2007, 11:58 AM
we wern't that poor - the ref made it more difficult than ever...no way were we poor..the only period in which they dominated was after the penalty up until half time..we infact shaded the second half...albeit kanoute had two good chances...but keane also had a good chance as did malbranque..

olly27
6th April 2007, 12:02 PM
It's pointless to take away from these facts, for how good you play depends on the opposition. We played well, Spanish fans and yournalists say it. They compare our performance to that of Real and Barca who were beaten at this stadium. We cannot smash them on their ground, stats show we've created as many chances as they have.

Totally agree suberb - it totally depends on the quality of the opposition to assess your own performance...this was never gonna be a comfortable victory...we were playing against an excellent side with a make shift defence, considering these circumstances I think we did well and am happy with the result..

Ginola's Son
6th April 2007, 12:05 PM
but the performance was woeful.


No it wasn't. We did very well I thought.

Gino Ginelli
6th April 2007, 01:20 PM
As usual an English side comes unstuck against a bunch of cheating diving ballbags. THIS is the reason why the premiership is the best league in the world, because we play an honest hardworking game and the best team is the team who plays the best football and works the hardest, NOT the team with the best diving, gamesmanship mother ****er! (Although Ronaldo Robben and Pires have done their best to **** that theory)

That fantstic first minute goal is going to prove absolutely vital for us. Despite the result in Spain, we're in the driving seat I think, and the spaniards will be the most unhappy I think. They came at us, we defended well for the most part, and we we're the better team in the 2nd half.

We all know that was really 1-1, as that was NEVER EVER IN A MILLION AEONS A ****ING PENALTY YOU BLIND TOSSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So chin up lads, this is still ours to win. COYS!



Oh, and Jenas is shit :)

Spur
6th April 2007, 02:24 PM
Everyone makes good points, and the ref did make it tricky for us.

I still think we were the second best side on the night, like I said, which again went unnoticed by one or two, take away the fact we were playing Sevilla, and it was a poor performance. Put in the fact it was Sevilla and maybe it was acceptable, ok, am I content with the performance? No, however with the result I am. I still think with the way we played - not them - we deserved to come away with a loss.

Only the defence comes out with any real credit, Keane aside. suBerb, you say Berbatov was so upset / angry he didn't give an interview, and I can see why he was upset because he never got the rub of the green at all, as did none of our players what with the quality, or lack of, of refereeing being a major contributing factor in our display, and certainly in the result.

Maybe i'm being too harsh, but I still didn't see our normal lads out there. Hopefully the loss will cause all of them, including our club captain, to give 110% against Chelsea, and we can use any momentum we build up during our 3-0 win against the West Londoners against Sevilla back at the Lane. I wish I was going to this one now, but it is not to be.

Yesterday's game against Sevilla was our biggest match for nearly a decade. The one on Thrusday will be twice as big, and twice as important.

It could be a good week. COYS.

yvivaespania
6th April 2007, 02:31 PM
don't be a **** you ****in ****.

SurreySpur
6th April 2007, 04:04 PM
**** off you dirty little tosser

Thfc4Life
6th April 2007, 05:44 PM
don't be a **** you ****in ****.

Do one, ****face!

ilovekeano
6th April 2007, 06:22 PM
Good english there espania!!

I think we played better in the second half, we had a lull in the first half due to that WANK decision!! Sodden ref gave just about EVERYTHING to the bloody spanish AND to top it off denied us a CORNER due to a moaning player who I would like to ****!! or mayve get a **** to **** him, the **** being defoe

singapore spur
11th April 2007, 06:11 AM
didnt see the game as i was in thailand , bit pissed after lunch , so ven though i shouldnt comment i just want to say one thing...........










......jumpingjerhozafats i would have taken the result pre-festivities

GOONHATER
12th April 2007, 10:18 PM
don't be a **** you ****in ****.
GO BACK TO THE GOONS SITE YOU SMALL MINDED PRICK!