View Full Version : Match Thread: Cardiff City vs Tottenham Hotspur
Neil_Vaughan
3rd January 2007, 06:08 PM
Talk about the game in here before, during and after.
Spur
3rd January 2007, 06:59 PM
Completely shitting it.
I still think of disasters against Leicester and Grimsby when we play lower league opposition, as well as the close run things against Southend and Port Vale from this season.
Not a game i'm looking forward to. Just like every away game actually.
Chewy
3rd January 2007, 07:22 PM
To be honest I don't care. Obviously I'd love a win but we're having a great run in carling cup and in europe. If we get put out by cardiff, I'll just take it as less games to play, therefore better chance of finishing top 6.
highlander
3rd January 2007, 07:48 PM
i think Defoe & Berbatov will rip then apart. i dlike to see some of the kids given a run out; Ifil, Lee (Charlie), Ziegler, O'Hara and Dervitte mainly, possibly Taraabt
Welsh Spur
3rd January 2007, 10:18 PM
To be honest I don't care. Obviously I'd love a win but we're having a great run in carling cup and in europe. If we get put out by cardiff, I'll just take it as less games to play, therefore better chance of finishing top 6.
Good point there mate, but on the other hand I'm also a born and bred Swansea jack and the only team I hate more than the filth is Cardiff ****ing City.
3-1 to us, I'm saying 1 for them due to our shocking inability to keep a clean sheet.
Spur
3rd January 2007, 10:53 PM
C'mon guys, wouldn't everyone like to play the first FA Cup final back at Wembley?
Welsh Spur
4th January 2007, 12:22 PM
If we win it yeah!
Otherwise we'd forever be a piece of trivia....
...."Who lost the first FA Cup final at the New Wembley?"
spurs61
4th January 2007, 12:43 PM
C'mon guys, wouldn't everyone like to play the first FA Cup final back at Wembley?
I do! Very worried by this game though. Any suggestion of playing "kiddies" against Cardiff must be banished, Cardiff is a very intimidating place to play and we need experience to see us through.
JJ
4th January 2007, 12:52 PM
I do! Very worried by this game though. Any suggestion of playing "kiddies" against Cardiff must be banished, Cardiff is a very intimidating place to play and we need experience to see us through.
Jol doesn't strike me as the kind of boss who would ever put out a team of kids. He'll just use more of the players who don't get many games (Mido, Murphy, Stalteri etc).
spurs61
4th January 2007, 12:56 PM
Jol doesn't strike me as the kind of boss who would ever put out a team of kids. He'll just use more of the players who don't get many games (Mido, Murphy, Stalteri etc).
Yeah, I wouldn't do that either. Our away from is shocking, this is a chance for the players to improve their confidence away from home. After our uninspired Christmas campaign we can't afford another stupid slip up to lesser opposition. I might play Mido and one or two other "bench" players but essentially I'd play a full strength side.
Spur
4th January 2007, 01:06 PM
Jol doesn't strike me as the kind of boss who would ever put out a team of kids. He'll just use more of the players who don't get many games (Mido, Murphy, Stalteri etc).
There were a few rumblings about Mido being involved in a bid for Gamst, this is a good game to take account of the players who aren't playing as they would be more likely to be used in any deal.
JJ
4th January 2007, 01:39 PM
There were a few rumblings about Mido being involved in a bid for Gamst, this is a good game to take account of the players who aren't playing as they would be more likely to be used in any deal.
I would take that.
Not sure how the Blackburn faithful would take signing a player who turned them down 6 months ago though.
MaccYid
4th January 2007, 01:58 PM
Had high hopes for Mido when he re-signed but he just hasnt cut the mustard, wouldn't be too sorry to see him as part of swap deal involving someone. However if we can get a replacement then he has to stay till the end of the season
MiloMinderbinder
4th January 2007, 02:06 PM
I might play Mido and one or two other "bench" players but essentially I'd play a full strength side.
so speakth the man who didn't have to watch Mido's worse than abject perfomance against Liverpool. I would advocate playing Zokora though, just so that everyone can be beyond doubt that he's toss when he's shown up by that world beater Koumas.
Spur
4th January 2007, 03:14 PM
so speakth the man who didn't have to watch Mido's worse than abject perfomance against Liverpool. I would advocate playing Zokora though, just so that everyone can be beyond doubt that he's toss when he's shown up by that world beater Koumas.
I missed everything to do with the Liverpool game - I still haven't even seen the goal - was it really that bad? I didn't want to read the thread about it as it would have got me depressed, on a scale of 1-10 how bad was it, 10 being the worse.
That goes for the team as a whole as well as Mido.
Welsh Spur
4th January 2007, 03:29 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't do that either. Our away from is shocking, this is a chance for the players to improve their confidence away from home. After our uninspired Christmas campaign we can't afford another stupid slip up to lesser opposition. I might play Mido and one or two other "bench" players but essentially I'd play a full strength side.
Yes, definately. There are teams you can afford to play a below strength team against (MK Dons, Port Vale) and teams you can't. (Southend, Cardiff)
I don't like the idea of giving such teams any extra reason to beat us as lower teams are already well up for a PL scalp anyway.
Welsh Spur
4th January 2007, 03:31 PM
There were a few rumblings about Mido being involved in a bid for Gamst, this is a good game to take account of the players who aren't playing as they would be more likely to be used in any deal.
I'd take that too. 5M and Mido and I'd snatch their ****ing hand off.
Oh, and we weren't terrible against Liverpool, to be honest I'd give the team a realistic 7 out of ten and Mido a poor 4. I'm glad he isn't having a strop about his situation - the simple response would be-
"Score some ****ing goals then son!"
MiloMinderbinder
4th January 2007, 03:42 PM
I missed everything to do with the Liverpool game - I still haven't even seen the goal - was it really that bad? I didn't want to read the thread about it as it would have got me depressed, on a scale of 1-10 how bad was it, 10 being the worse.
That goes for the team as a whole as well as Mido.
Well the weather was a bit like spending three hours in a dinghy in the Atlantic, I sit in the East Stand under a big fat roof and still got soaked. As for the footy we weren;t that bad I'd see we deserved a point so more or less the whole tema get 6/10 Mido get 1/10 (1 for playing through an "injury") and Zokora gets a minus 5 and I hope he is never seen in the shirt again for the most abject, insipid, gutless, cowardly performance I have ever has the misfortune to see, and only part of that was his "after you Claude" for the goal.
JJ
4th January 2007, 03:44 PM
I'd take that too. 5M and Mido and I'd snatch their ****ing hand off.
Oh, and we weren't terrible against Liverpool, to be honest I'd give the team a realistic 7 out of ten and Mido a poor 4. I'm glad he isn't having a strop about his situation - the simple response would be-
"Score some ****ing goals then son!"
Yeah, we weren't terrible at all.
Their goal was awful, we had more chances on goal than they did but didn't take them. That's just how it goes sometimes.
Welsh Spur
4th January 2007, 03:54 PM
Yeah, we weren't terrible at all.
Their goal was awful, we had more chances on goal than they did but didn't take them. That's just how it goes sometimes.
That's how it goes most of the time for us. It's agonising. It's always if's and buts but if all the chances that should have been taken over the last season and a half were actually taken (and I don't mean half chances I mean chances that we've vented anger about them being missed) then goddamn! Where would we be? It's one of the major problems in this team - taking chances.
Still though I'm calm due to the fact that the cups have taken their toll on us, as I knew they would. This club has not done so well in cup competitions fo a good while - let's hope I'm not jinxing us for Cardiff!!!
JJ
4th January 2007, 04:16 PM
That's how it goes most of the time for us. It's agonising. It's always if's and buts but if all the chances that should have been taken over the last season and a half were actually taken (and I don't mean half chances I mean chances that we've vented anger about them being missed) then goddamn! Where would we be? It's one of the major problems in this team - taking chances.
Still though I'm calm due to the fact that the cups have taken their toll on us, as I knew they would. This club has not done so well in cup competitions fo a good while - let's hope I'm not jinxing us for Cardiff!!!
Yeah, it does get painful alot of the time.
I would be more worried if we weren't creating chances at all though.
RuFuS
4th January 2007, 05:28 PM
C'mon guys, wouldn't everyone like to play the first FA Cup final back at Wembley?
We can't wait till 2010 :rolleyes:
hastingsyid
4th January 2007, 08:00 PM
We can't wait till 2010 :rolleyes:
Will it be ready by then:eek:
Gregzy
4th January 2007, 09:49 PM
Will it be ready by then:eek:
Yep, just in time for the Rolling Stones' "Steel Wheelchairs" tour (in association with Viagra, Saga and Kangapants).
Seriously, I am really worried about Sunday's game - I can't get images of Leicester out of my head. We can afford quite literally NO messing around on this one....
Mido11_pharaoh
4th January 2007, 10:26 PM
Had high hopes for Mido when he re-signed but he just hasnt cut the mustard, wouldn't be too sorry to see him as part of swap deal involving someone. However if we can get a replacement then he has to stay till the end of the season
Mido just needs to begain firing goals .....especially useful goals .....as he needs to have some games in the league to play in order to have a mini mum of trust provided by Jol ....... But he must get rid of his bad luck firstly .... Don't know if he should start the next game vs Gardiff that depends on his injury ...... but I believe it would be good to see Berbatov playing with Mido..... Good luck guys
jrio
4th January 2007, 11:46 PM
I would take that.
Not sure how the Blackburn faithful would take signing a player who turned them down 6 months ago though.
Seems like you've forgotten us signing Murphy. A lot of groaning but no real hatred.
jrio
5th January 2007, 12:07 AM
so speakth the man who didn't have to watch Mido's worse than abject perfomance against Liverpool.
Except, from the Spurs website, Jol told him he HAD to play with injections as Berb had been so ill, and was only rated as 80-90% fit. Fans are so easy to back Ghaly being willing to carry on after being kicked in the head and losing teeth; is Mido's situation potentially very different?
KK, to you every new signing has about several games to prove themselves otherwise they should be discarded. I've little doubt that you'd be the first to slag off Mido if he'd "let down the club" by refusing to play. I was sitting in the Paxton Upper against West Ham when the guy next to me, after 40 minutes, said: "Mido's been completely shit". I mentally sympathised because he had been completely shit and then he scored what was the winning goal. In the second half he gave a much improved display. Don't be so quick to condemn players like Mido who is committed to the club and hasn't been fit, through no fault of his own, this season. Don't fall into the trap of backing players because they'd run through a brick wall, take a kick in the head or any other kind of macho bollocks. I can find you 11 players who would do exactly that and you and I would be watching complete shit.
To me, Blanchflower's edict on the merits of winning and losing epitomises the core value of the club. I'd rather lose in style than see Spurs dive, kick and cheat their way to success.
JJ
5th January 2007, 11:38 AM
Seems like you've forgotten us signing Murphy. A lot of groaning but no real hatred.
Yeah, but Murphy chose Liverpool, and there was a good few years before he went to Charlton and then to us.
This is 6 months later.
MiloMinderbinder
5th January 2007, 12:05 PM
Except, from the Spurs website, Jol told him he HAD to play with injections as Berb had been so ill, and was only rated as 80-90% fit. Fans are so easy to back Ghaly being willing to carry on after being kicked in the head and losing teeth; is Mido's situation potentially very different?
KK, to you every new signing has about several games to prove themselves otherwise they should be discarded. I've little doubt that you'd be the first to slag off Mido if he'd "let down the club" by refusing to play. I was sitting in the Paxton Upper against West Ham when the guy next to me, after 40 minutes, said: "Mido's been completely shit". I mentally sympathised because he had been completely shit and then he scored what was the winning goal. In the second half he gave a much improved display. Don't be so quick to condemn players like Mido who is committed to the club and hasn't been fit, through no fault of his own, this season. Don't fall into the trap of backing players because they'd run through a brick wall, take a kick in the head or any other kind of macho bollocks. I can find you 11 players who would do exactly that and you and I would be watching complete shit.
To me, Blanchflower's edict on the merits of winning and losing epitomises the core value of the club. I'd rather lose in style than see Spurs dive, kick and cheat their way to success.
oh were to begin. I qualified my comment re Mido by stating that he was alledged to be injured, although I would also comment do you believe everything that Tony BLiar and his cronies tell you? As for your assertion that Mido hasn't been fit, I think he has he's just been 4th choice behind better players. I haven't said he's shit I think he's pretty good when he wants to be, but it's clear he needs to put weight back on as he can't play his natrual game at present.
And I do give new signing time, except when I can see quite clearly that they are not up to the job (Rasiak, Murphy, Zokora to name a few). If you don't think that 100% commitment from players, regardless of skills levels are essential then I am afraid I can't change your mind for you, but I have two words - Ruel Fox.
MaccYid
5th January 2007, 12:12 PM
oh were to begin. If you don't think that 100% commitment from players, regardless of skills levels are essential then I am afraid I can't change your mind for you, but I have two words - Ruel Fox.
Do you think Ruel still has a pair of boots... if so stick him on the left...
only joking, before someone jumps down my throat!!
JJ
5th January 2007, 12:12 PM
Do you think Ruel still has a pair of boots... if so stick him on the left...
only joking, before someone jumps down my throat!!
Ruel of the roost!
MiloMinderbinder
5th January 2007, 12:17 PM
Ruel of the roost!
He had a trick that even David Blaine can't top - every game he disappeared up his own arse.
Welsh Spur
5th January 2007, 12:24 PM
Yeah, but Murphy chose Liverpool, and there was a good few years before he went to Charlton and then to us.
This is 6 months later.
Murphy turned us down to go to Charlton. And then came here. I remember it well because I was surprised, he proper slated us when explaining why he went to Charlton.
"I've gone to the better club" and all that. I'm sure you did mate. That explains your mysterious U-turn then doesn't it?
JJ
5th January 2007, 12:46 PM
Murphy turned us down to go to Charlton. And then came here. I remember it well because I was surprised, he proper slated us when explaining why he went to Charlton.
"I've gone to the better club" and all that. I'm sure you did mate. That explains your mysterious U-turn then doesn't it?
Haha oh shit, i missed that.
Well, would Blackburn even want Mido now anyway? McCarthy has worked out relatively well for them.
Spur
5th January 2007, 01:08 PM
Haha oh shit, i missed that.
Well, would Blackburn even want Mido now anyway? McCarthy has worked out relatively well for them.
But Jason Roberts hasn't, so really they have Benni and Nonda...and Fanny Jeffers of course.
Welsh Spur
5th January 2007, 01:19 PM
Jeffers, haha! What a shithouse.
jrio
5th January 2007, 02:08 PM
Yeah, but Murphy chose Liverpool, and there was a good few years before he went to Charlton and then to us.
This is 6 months later.
No, I was referring to him joining Charlton in preference to Spurs because he wanted to play for an English manager which was 18 months before he came to us.
Just read further down and see that you've seen another reference to it.
Spur
5th January 2007, 03:58 PM
No, I was referring to him joining Charlton in preference to Spurs because he wanted to play for an English manager which was 18 months before he came to us.
Just read further down and see that you've seen another reference to it.
My old man was very against Murphy joining because of him rejecting us twice. For me I wasn't that bothered. I saw it as a waste of money but we paid no more than 1.5mil for him, i'm positive we can get at least that on selling him on. Maybe they offered himto us for so little we saw it as a great investment.
SurreySpur
5th January 2007, 03:59 PM
Robbie Keane and Aaron Lennon are in the squad for Sundays game. Ghaly is doubtful and mido is out with a groin strain.
Suddenly i feel much more positive about the game!!
Thfc4Life
5th January 2007, 04:01 PM
Robbie Keane and Aaron Lennon are in the squad for Sundays game. Ghaly is doubtful and mido is out with a groin strain.
Suddenly i feel much more positive about the game!!
Best news i have heard all week :D
Spur
5th January 2007, 04:04 PM
Best news i have heard all week :D
Mido being out or Keane being in?
It's about time Lennon got back. I fear this is his last season for us so he needs to play every game to give us some good memories.
Ledder's is out though. That's not good. I hate not seeing him playing.
Welsh Spur
5th January 2007, 04:09 PM
I don't mind, our reliance on him at the back is already suspect so we need to start thinking alternatively.
I don't think Lennon will leave just yet, he's under a long long contract anyway so whoever wants him -
I hope that club has a lot of ****ing money. Coz if they want him, they're gonna need it.
Thfc4Life
5th January 2007, 04:14 PM
Mido being out or Keane being in?
It's about time Lennon got back. I fear this is his last season for us so he needs to play every game to give us some good memories.
Ledder's is out though. That's not good. I hate not seeing him playing.
Actually neither :p
Lennon coming back is the best news, closely followed by Keane being back ;)
hastingsyid
5th January 2007, 04:47 PM
Hopefully with lennon returning it will lift the boys,lets go out there and destroy them cardiff ******s...COYS
Welsh Spur
5th January 2007, 04:59 PM
Hopefully with lennon returning it will lift the boys,lets go out there and destroy them cardiff ******s...COYS
I'll definately second that! ****ing Cardiff scum.....
COYS!!!!! UP the Jacks!!!
hastingsyid
5th January 2007, 08:24 PM
I'll definately second that! ****ing Cardiff scum.....
COYS!!!!! UP the Jacks!!!
Welshie how far you from cardiff fella
Welsh Spur
6th January 2007, 01:32 AM
45min to an hour in the car, about 50 miles.
RuFuS
6th January 2007, 05:38 AM
Robbie Keane and Aaron Lennon are in the squad for Sundays game. Suddenly i feel much more positive about the game!!
Me too. We've missed Robbie
hastingsyid
6th January 2007, 02:30 PM
45min to an hour in the car, about 50 miles.
Ok fella coz me and the boys are driving up early morning as all the trains from london are ****ed(thanx police ******s)theres only one train going straight to cardiff about 8.30am the rest are going to swindon then you have to get a bus to cardiff,ill probably be in a boozer called "the monk"unless ob place us elsewhere,anyway hastingsyid will let you boys know if we had any fun...................COYS;) ;)
Spur
6th January 2007, 02:54 PM
I wish I was going. I like it when we visit 'lower' teams. I'm at Charlton every year!
And on a completely related topic, when do we find out if we can take fans to Rotterdam?
hastingsyid
6th January 2007, 04:33 PM
I wish I was going. I like it when we visit 'lower' teams. I'm at Charlton every year!
And on a completely related topic, when do we find out if we can take fans to Rotterdam?
Should know this month around the 20th i believe
mjbmedia
6th January 2007, 07:31 PM
we'd better win so i can wear me colours to work in Cardiff every day next week to shut the dumb neathanderals up
gazzaG8
6th January 2007, 09:29 PM
Most of my mates support Cardiff, so i really couldn't handle losing to them.
I think we'll get a draw then beat them at home
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 12:13 PM
We need to and will win today. How much of our glorious history is based around cup wins?
I can see a 2-0 win today for us.
MJ has said before how much the FA Cup is part of the mighty Spurs history and will do all he can to win it.
Always the optomist me .. :)
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 03:02 PM
I think we'll beat Cardiff today, they're just a team of journeymen and players that couldnt make it in the prem. They will have passion and we'll have to earn the right to play but as soon as we do we'll put a few past them. Spurs to win 4-1 with Berby, Defoe and Steed all getting on the scoresheet.
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 03:20 PM
Spurs: Robinson, Chimbonda, YP Lee, Dawson, Davenport, Murphy, Huddlestone, Tainio, Malbranque, Berbatov, Defoe. Subs: Cerny, Keane, Lennon, Gardner, Zokora.
highlander
7th January 2007, 03:22 PM
MJ would hate to lose this game after last seasons early cup exits so i cant see complacency being an issue. we will field our strongest team and should win comfortably. hopefully we'll see the return of Lennon and Keane
Spur
7th January 2007, 03:24 PM
Good to see Zokora's been dropped.
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 03:31 PM
Good to see Zokora's been dropped.
Yeah i have to agree, hopefully Tainio will get his foot in and let the Hudd do the business.
jrio
7th January 2007, 03:35 PM
Midfield: Malbranque on the right, Murphy left Tainio centre? Cardiff have drawn their last 4 league games failing to score twice. I think 3-1 is a realistic score, possibly after falling behind.
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 04:15 PM
What the **** was Lee doing?? That was a serious let off!
jrio
7th January 2007, 04:18 PM
More diabolical play from Lee, just to prove he's not only a dead end in attacking.
denis-cro
7th January 2007, 04:19 PM
Oh, FFS Lee is ****ing idiot!!!!
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 04:20 PM
We really need to sort out that left side asap.
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 04:23 PM
We were playing well and now we have got sloppy and Cardiff have gained confidence from it. Tainio and Murphy need to show some composure.
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 04:28 PM
Passing from midfield is awful, Huds is not having his best game, Mel very sloppy and Tanio and Murphy .. are they playing?
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 04:32 PM
C'mon spurs get your foot on the ball for **** sake
denis-cro
7th January 2007, 04:35 PM
Tainio??? Is he playing???
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 04:40 PM
Lee is having another nightmare. Surely we can find a decent left back from somewhere. Drury at Norwich is a good player.
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 04:43 PM
Glenn Hoddle is in the Sky Sports Studio as a Pundit, Lets get him a shirt printed up and stick him in the middle with the Hudd!!!
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 04:49 PM
To me Lee looks as though he has lost all confidence, everytime he gets the ball he seems to want to play an easy ball or just knock it out.
denis-cro
7th January 2007, 04:50 PM
There is no progress in our away games :( ...even if we play championship team
nuttyhotspurs
7th January 2007, 04:52 PM
our left side looks worse than ever. lee awful in defense today and is there any point in him going forward. he cant cross with his left or right foot. murphy is wandering all over the pitch and doing nothing, leaving the left side of midfield bare and getting in everyones way. tainio is having another mare and the hudd looks poor again today. we have absolutely no composure on the ball in midfield and our passing has been woeful so far
get it ****in sorted 2nd half
Spur
7th January 2007, 04:55 PM
There seems to be no communication all oover the pitch, obviously more evident at the back, we've ****ed up a good 3 or 4 times.
The midfield is nothing. Huddlestone seems to be the only person able to stand up and play the ball, at one time he was our farthest player left on the pitch, Murphy went walkies and Teemu and Steed don't seem to know what they are playing.
I know I said earlier that Zokora should have been dropped, but now i'm thinking get him and Lennon on for Teemu and Danny.
Defoe and Berba aren't getting the ball enough to do anything with it, but they are still showing signs of their already wonderful partnership.
All in all we just need people to start playing, how we aren't losing I will never know.
laspur
7th January 2007, 04:56 PM
Too much foolin' around with with back line and robbo, unnescessary extra passes gettin us in trouble, just get the ball out the box. We looked rattled the last 15 min. this is looking all too familiar, get a ****in goal guys.
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 04:59 PM
I know I said earlier that Zokora should have been dropped, but now i'm thinking get him and Lennon on for Teemu and Danny.
Yeah i was just thinking the same thing, the midfield lacks any sort of edge, bringing Lennon on will give Cardiff something to think about, at the moment its just too easy for them.
jrio
7th January 2007, 05:01 PM
I can't see anyone playing in midfield on the left. I'd put Lennon on for Tainio at half-time and move Mal to the left. Later on, Zokora for Murphy looks a good bet.
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 05:02 PM
Take off Murphy
Bring on Lennon
Stick Steed on the left
Wait till 65th min or so then bring on Keane for Tanio
Game over and a win for the mighty Spurs ....
Spur
7th January 2007, 05:02 PM
And can somebody ring up and order a Korean so Lee has to make a delivery?
I'd rather he walk off the pitch, or Gardner came on left back for that matter :eek:
nuttyhotspurs
7th January 2007, 05:02 PM
yea i think zokora needs to come on. hes been poor recently but my god tainio........why the **** does jol rate him so highly
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 05:07 PM
FFS Defoe, that should have been 1-0
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 05:13 PM
Murphy and Tainio have started the second half worse than they finished the first!! I wouldn't have thought that was possible!!
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 05:13 PM
**** me Tanio touched the ball ...
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 05:29 PM
Hopefully with Lennon on and Steed out to the right it will give us that edge we need ..
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 05:37 PM
This is shit.
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 05:48 PM
3 mins to go and MJ at last takes off Lee
nuttyhotspurs
7th January 2007, 05:52 PM
thats the worst game ive seen on tv all season
\jackdaw
7th January 2007, 05:53 PM
Pretty Shit game but I'm sure the conditions didnt help.
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 05:53 PM
Why leave it so long to make ****ing changes? Why did Teemu stay on for the whole game, he was poor as usual, surely we could have forced the game by bringing on the more dynamic Zokora? Did we trouble their goalkeeper at all apart from Berby's snap shot?
That really was a crap game of football, when are we going to start performing in away games?
laspur
7th January 2007, 06:02 PM
What can ya say, it was one painful game to watch. We should count our blessings we didn't lose, cause it was sure looking that way. Oh well add another game to our lenghty fixture list.
Spur
7th January 2007, 06:04 PM
Conditions should be beside the point, we are Premiership, we are one of the favourites for europe, we should have absolutely spanked them.
All my life i've wished for lower league opposition in cup competitions. No longer shall I do so. Its so embarrassing when we don't win. At least going out to Wigan or Bolton you can use the excuse, 'well they are in the Premiership', with Cardiff, Port Vale, Southend, Leiceister, MK Dons, and Grimsby my heart is always pounding waiting for us to **** up.
When you think we have played lower league opposition 6 times over the past 2 seasons, we have lost 2, effectively drawn 3 (2 going to ET) and won just 1 whilst scoring (in 90 minutes) just 7 and conceding 5 I think. Thats shocking. That's really, really shocking.
Still, lets look on the bright side, we still done better than Charlton :D
nuttyhotspurs
7th January 2007, 06:06 PM
it was one painful game to watch
extremely painful
nuttyhotspurs
7th January 2007, 06:07 PM
Still, lets look on the bright side, we still done better than Charlton :D
you class that as a bright side? charlton are a championship side come may
Spur
7th January 2007, 06:08 PM
extremely painful
So painful I fell asleep.
highlander
7th January 2007, 06:09 PM
its not what we want, the fixtures will build up now. it was a poor result and a poor performance, i thought it was a boring game as well
shoot_ffs
7th January 2007, 06:10 PM
my god we were bloody clueless. jol really does need to shake this team up. there are no leaders, possible down to jol's inefective tactics, and we can't keep playing this awful midfield together. cardiff played all the quality football, they weren't even that physical, but they ran their guts out and used their wide players well. tainio and hudds can't play together and again i think steed is more of a hinderance than an asset. i hoped he'd start zokora so we had some pace in the middle. we were so narrow in the first half it was funny. hopefully the beeb will show the replay.
JM_
7th January 2007, 06:10 PM
Ok let's take the positive things:
1. we didn't loose
2. we kept a clean sheet
3. Huddlestone managed the midfield quite good, if you take into account that we only fielded 1 midfielder (I didn't see anyone else there...) :rolleyes:
4. we get a new chance to put things right in the replay!
But it was a poor performance overall, especially the midfield went AWOL.
I would say Davenport was the only one who played on par.
Just hope Jenas will be fit for the game next week against the barcodes!
COYS
SurreySpur
7th January 2007, 06:13 PM
Why do we still have to field players like Lee in the first team. He's an absolute liability I tried not to jump on the bandwagon when it came to Lee because i thought he had something to offer the side but he really is toss, everytime the ball went near him i feared we would end up in trouble. Lets go buy gareth Barry, i dont care how much it costs, lets just get it sorted because its becoming a joke.
jrio
7th January 2007, 06:33 PM
Poor conditions will always reduce the ability of the better quality side to dominate. It still doesn't excuse the pitiful level of our football. Substitutions were way too late and there was little fluency in the midfield. I thought Davenport again showed enough quality to question the reports about him being allowed to leave the club. Lee is way out of his depth and if Ekotto can't be relied upon more, than it raises serious questions about our ability to find the right players, because in the last 2 years there have been at least 5 players in that position. I have great anxiety that excessive games in domestic cup competitions will severely hinder progress in the UEFA Cup and lead to us collapsing in April.
wayne wonder
7th January 2007, 06:37 PM
Nobody come out that game with any credit it's like they were playing in slow motion proper shit i swear to god!!
Indianspur
7th January 2007, 06:46 PM
Think theres our case to buy a couple of wingers now and a left back as we have no creativity away.i thought are players need pratice crossing also as we barely got a ball on a tottenham head.i thought steed played quite well and wat a bicycle kick.He kept working which was important.davenport looked better also.
I think keane should have come on earlier but for taino then we may have looked more dangerous.
wayne wonder
7th January 2007, 07:05 PM
To be honest we're punching above our weight and some of these players aren't fit to wear the shirt
nuttyhotspurs
7th January 2007, 07:13 PM
we kept a clean sheetCOYS
****in hell because the performance was so lacklustre i actually forgot we didnt let a goal in! now lets keep a clean sheet in the league away. then at least we half way to winning a goddam game
highlander
7th January 2007, 07:15 PM
whats also worrying is that MJ seemed happy with the draw. how is a 0-0 against a club in the 2nd tier of English football a good result
wayne wonder
7th January 2007, 07:19 PM
whats also worrying is that MJ seemed happy with the draw. how is a 0-0 against a club in the 2nd tier of English football a good result
exactly.......granted we have no divine right to win a match but bloody hell lads show us some passion and actually pass a ball to a team mate i mean **** sake your on 40+ a week and u cant trap, pass a ball ****ing me
peterc
7th January 2007, 07:30 PM
We were like eleven amateur players, an embarassment and I hope that one day all clubs start to duct players wages for such poor performances. Defoe and Murphy should have been replaced after twenty minutes. Maybe MJ should start to substitute below par players much earlier in the game. More games to play, more injuries and most probably more excuses. When are we going to f...... learn.
jrio
7th January 2007, 07:32 PM
whats also worrying is that MJ seemed happy with the draw. how is a 0-0 against a club in the 2nd tier of English football a good result
Still, we did the same in '81 against QPR in better conditions when we won it. Chopra should have scored in the first half, and City and Boro fared no better against lower sides, clubs we were level with only a month ago. The upcoming fixture congestion should speed up any potential players leaving and coming.
wayne wonder
7th January 2007, 07:38 PM
Lee, Gardner, Stalteri, Murphy and Tainio are not up to scratch and also mido should go too and bring in some quality.
Why didn't we get boa morte?? didn't we offer 5mil at the start of he season and they said no?? i reckon every fu ker hates us and wont sell to us
mjbmedia
7th January 2007, 08:46 PM
more extreme negative football via Mr Jol
Berbs looked like he couldnt give a ****, whats the matter Dimi dont they have rain and wind in German football, try taking your noncy gloves off and playing like a man you ****ing tart , that goes for Chimbo and Aaron too ****ing poofters.
im soo glad i didnt waste my money and go, even tho just down the road, i knew it would be dire and negative.
Mal and Berbs should have gone off for Lennon and Keane after 55 , lets be honest the whole fecking team should have gone off, thats two piss poor negative performances in a row, MJ likes saying he knows about Spurs' history, is he sure????
highlander
7th January 2007, 09:00 PM
also this persistance with playing 4 central midfielder is getting too much. its not just because we didnt get a leftie in the summer, its been this way for this season and last, thats 3 transfer windows to sign someone with a left foot (and a back up winger) and it hasnt happened. the cup is the perfect chance to try out a couple of kids or fringe players e.g. Ziegler. i cannot see why he hasnt been given a chance this season, its ridiculous.
JJ
7th January 2007, 09:11 PM
Poor performance, but let's be real, it was always going to be an absolute scrap away against Cardiff.
Get them back to the lane and give them a humping.
Spur
7th January 2007, 09:11 PM
also this persistance with playing 4 central midfielder is getting too much. its not just because we didnt get a leftie in the summer, its been this way for this season and last, thats 3 transfer windows to sign someone with a left foot (and a back up winger) and it hasnt happened. the cup is the perfect chance to try out a couple of kids or fringe players e.g. Ziegler. i cannot see why he hasnt been given a chance this season, its ridiculous.
He obviously thinks Reto ain't good enough. And I actually do believe we have genuinely missed out on targets we've tried to get before, a prime example being Boa Morte, and us having a deadline day bid rejected only for us not to bid this time around...we have moved on, we are going for someone (some people) better.
When you think of the amount of players, or managers, who have said we are after their left wingers, this is starting back when Nedved said, now Ashley Young, Stewart Downing, we may well have been interested in Petrov, the list is long. But for one reason or another it doesn't happen, i'm not trying to make excuses by the way just trying to say that they haven't been sitting aorund doing **** all all this time.
Spur
7th January 2007, 09:13 PM
Have to say as well, from what I could tell on TV it was very noisy, it must play a part.
mjbmedia
7th January 2007, 09:22 PM
Have to say as well, from what I could tell on TV it was very noisy, it must play a part.
yeh it clearly scared them shitless
denis-cro
7th January 2007, 09:59 PM
How it is possible that someone is happy with a draw playing championship side...:(
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/jolhappy070107.html
jrio
7th January 2007, 11:35 PM
Because we could have been beaten. That's what cup competitions are all about, and particularly what the FA Cup used to be all about.
Gregzy
8th January 2007, 12:27 AM
Poor performance, but let's be real, it was always going to be an absolute scrap away against Cardiff.
Get them back to the lane and give them a humping.
Exactly. From the minute the draw was made, I was happy to take a replay. Granted, we had chances that should have been taken, but I really can't see that much cause for complaint - at the end of the day, there was a huge banana skin in front of us and we negoitiated it well enough.
An extra game isn't what anyone would want now, but an extra game we've got so let's just make sure we send the little upstarts back to Wales with their collective tail between their collective legs.
SCIFIN17YID
8th January 2007, 03:13 AM
From what I saw we did not deserve to win, neither did they, it was fa cup game and both teams was playing for the win, did you see how many cardiff fans there was compared to us, which is typically out numbered, I am glad on the result and happy for a replay, why ? answer we get them at the lane, and destroy them, if you saw the manager's comments before them game, he was so happy, full of confidence in his team, after the game he is then stuttering and finding it hard to say stuff like white hart lane and tottenham, lol dudes dont sweet it, we got a win surely i say 2 - 0 to us at white hart lane in this replay and i am deffinatly going there. p.s I hate gardner get rid of him and stalteri. !
Chaydle
8th January 2007, 08:35 AM
I don't know what all the fuss is about, it wasn't a bad result, we played better against Leicester last year and lost, Cardiff are a better team than Leicester with passionate anti-english fans.
I was never on the edge of my seat, we didn't create much but never looked like conceding. You have to account for the conditions, the match was primed for an upset so i am pleased to get the opportunity to take them back to the Lane.
hastingsyid
8th January 2007, 10:07 AM
Must say yes it was a bad performance but yet again the fans were fantastic,horrible ****ing weather but it was a typical cup game.These games are special and roll on the replay at the lane.
Welsh Spur
8th January 2007, 12:35 PM
Poor all round- a good cup tie but both sides did nothing really, no-one could control possession but weather was complete bollocks.
It is a good result - they are a team we could be facing in the league next year, and with our away form a defeat could have easily happened, it was definately on the cards.
Tainio was a bit better but still nowhere near good form, Lee showed why we bought Ekotto, and King's absence does leave us suspect.
RuFuS
8th January 2007, 06:54 PM
I don't know what all the fuss is about,I was never on the edge of my seat.
I was.....then laid out on the floor and well and truly snoozing before half time.:o
mjbmedia
8th January 2007, 07:54 PM
some clearly dont seem to want this team to go far then if youre happy with that shite display (and i know thats not the case) . Fair dos if it was one and only, but it was one of many, way too many. same crap different opposition and we're supposed to be happy .
Meanwhile the scum thrash Liverpool 3-1 at Anfield
thank god the UEFA cup is so weak , it makes us look good
Spur
8th January 2007, 07:57 PM
I know this is well off topic, and in fact has little to do with our Club as a whole, but does anyone else find it odd that John Terry has admitted his charge? After so long, and even just the other day releasing yet another hypocritical statement, of saying he didn't do anything... Strikes me as being rather odd.
SurreySpur
8th January 2007, 08:02 PM
Yeah, its rather strange that a charge of improper conduct has taken so long to get sorted. Something is not quite right there!!
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