Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool

[Neil_Vaughan]

Talk about the game in here before, during and after.

[Mido11_pharaoh]

We must win this game to show the strenght of our team when we are home ... I expect we will win 2-1..... As we need thses 3 points to make a good jump in the league table .....

The squad should be :

Chimbonda ---- King ---- Dawson ------ Lee

------------------- Hudd -------------------
Lennon -------- Zokora/Ghaly - Malbranque -

----------- Berbatov/Mido ----- Defoe -----------

[Billywhizz]

Can't see anything else than a draw, hope i'm wrong.

[highlander]

i would usually say id take a draw from this game but we can win it and i think this is the type of game we should win if we are to keep up the pressure on Bolton & Pompey. i think its going to be an excellent open attacking match and im going for a 3-2 spurs win

[Spur]

We're at home, we can't lose more than once at home surely? Their away record isn't great against our home record which is. On paper Liverpool are stronger, on current form we are the better side. Could go either way.

I don't like Liverpool, but for the past two seasons I have said they should be second with the squad they have. If they shouldn't be 2nd then they should be very close to it. Definately a team playing below themselves.

[SurreySpur]

This is going to be a real test for our young team, I think we can match or better Liverpool in most postitons, my only concern is Huddlestone and Zokora up against Gerrard and Alonso. Im confident that Huddlestone can hold his own but i worry that Zokora will get ripped apart by Gerrard, this may be a good game to drop zokora in favour of one of our other centre mids.

[hastingsyid]

Whatever happens we just cannot lose this game,same passion shown when we played chelshit please lads.Looks like a draw all day long but i truly believe we can nick this one but only if the lads go all out and perform the way we know they can......COYS

[\jackdaw]

Hopefully MJ will have given them a good kick up tha ass after the Villa game, even though we won we were poor.

This isnt going to be easy but I think we will nick it by a goal.

[mjbmedia]

it will be one of those where who starts best will score first and end up losing the game

[olly27]

for me it will hinge on zokora..if he performes well I think we could win it...if its another lacklustre performance we will struggle to get anything from the game.

[olly27]

does anyone know if lennon is back for the game?

[choda]

We have to be up for this in the same way a just released ex-con is up for sex.

If we are then I can only see a good day. I think we will win. We've an awesome home record and they have a very poor away record.

I think they are suspect at the back and if we play well we will expose them.

[olly27]

the main site is stating that berba has been il and is a doubt..not looking good

[SurreySpur]

Is Mido fit? if not we could be in serious trouble up front, from having four class forwards to having just one. Would peckhart come into the reckoning?

[olly27]

mido will probably not be fit (groin strain)..so just defoe...not sure if martin will paly malbranque up front and bring murphy into midfield along with the hudd, zokora and ghaly.

[gazzaG8]

SSN just said our only injuries are Keano & JJ

[olly27]

read the main site..tainio and stalteri are definitely both out aswell

[jrio]

I think we will win. We've an awesome home record and they have a very poor away record.

I think they are suspect at the back and if we play well we will expose them.
The facts don't support your assertions but when did you ever let that stand in your way? They HAD a poor away record but have only one defeat and one goal conceded in their last 4 away games. In their last 8 games the only goal conceded was the one against Blackburn. It's Spurs who are suspect at the back with 26 goals against to Liverpool's 16(half of those against ManU, Arsenal and in their derby), only 4 clean sheets against their 10 and none in our last 10 games.

Their real weakness is in not converting the chances they create but with Kuyt starting instead of Crouch expect a marked improvement. As we haven't beaten Liverpool in our last 5 and Lennon may be missing expect a 1-1 draw.

[Mido11_pharaoh]

Is Mido fit? if not we could be in serious trouble up front, from having four class forwards to having just one. Would peckhart come into the reckoning?

I believe Mido will do his best in such difficult game....I trust my belifes

[choda]

The facts don't support your assertions but when did you ever let that stand in your way? They HAD a poor away record but have only one defeat and one goal conceded in their last 4 away games. In their last 8 games the only goal conceded was the one against Blackburn. It's Spurs who are suspect at the back with 26 goals against to Liverpool's 16(half of those against ManU, Arsenal and in their derby), only 4 clean sheets against their 10 and none in our last 10 games.

Their real weakness is in not converting the chances they create but with Kuyt starting instead of Crouch expect a marked improvement. As we haven't beaten Liverpool in our last 5 and Lennon may be missing expect a 1-1 draw.

Your obsessed with me mate. From these type of posts to your 'translating' my posts to your signature, which is a dig at me from three months ago when I suggested the very common 433 system when we had no wingers.

You've such a fixation with trying to make me look bad that it's actually a compliment.

Your right that I don't always pay strict attention to the facts. I also go my gut. I think we can win tomorrow. Believe it or not we have a good side and have a smashing home record. Liverpools keeper, Hypia, Agger, and Finnan this year don't impress me that much. I think they can be got at. I predict a score draw or a win for us.

And what's actually going on with you is that you have a deep pessimism and negativity and then you go and look for facts as to why you think spurs will struggle. Both in games and over the season. You do it ALL the time and your usually wrong. I don't get where your coming from at all. This is the most exciting time in spurs history for 15 years.

What the hell were you like when we really were a badly run club with a distinctly average team?

What I do with my predictions is try to be as objective as possible with predicting our games and our season. To do that I have to try to separate myself from my love of this great club.

You for some reason are just on a spurs put down bender and try to put down others who show enthusiasm for the club. And what is the definition of a supporter but a enthusiast for the game and your club, and a SUPPORTER.

Sometimes that is about being critical when appropriate.

But if all the players, manager, board and fans were as negative as you we wouldn't even be a professional club.

[shoot_ffs]

for me it will hinge on zokora..if he performes well I think we could win it...if its another lacklustre performance we will struggle to get anything from the game.

yeah i agree to some extent, he needs to be combative and eager today or the midfield will be swamped. the team selection will be crucial, if we have no lennon and only one striker we have no chance as far as i'm concerned. Even if we play 5 in the middle none of them can break up play very well so i see us retreating too far back and not being able to support the striker. i would expect us to create a few chances, but i don't see us competing for the 90 mins and we will lack any leadership in the middle. expect a lot of arm waving and bitching as things start to go wrong, rather than the spirited fighting display we need.

[nuttyhotspurs]

i have a feeling lennon will be in today. i think (don't ask me why) that he may have been available against villa but jol didnt want to risk him before this game.

its just a hunch but im praying its right

[shoot_ffs]

davenport comes in for king and mido partners defoe up front. berby on the bench. bellamy is going to destroy our centre backs. the team selection can't be helped due to injuries, but jol must have us play right for the team put out. a good solid defensive performance with us playing long and for set pieces is the way to go. i'd take a nil nil right now.

[MaccYid]

i agree, time for Mido to step it up!! No king will mean they will defo score, therefore we will need to score at least twice today

[Chewy]

I am extremely nervous right now.

[jrio]

Without King and Lennon, and Berb on the bench, the best we can hope for is a draw more likely a defeat if Liverpool take their chances.

[Chewy]

Oh my god. Apparently King could be out for a while! New CB in the sales please!

[nuttyhotspurs]

stop being so goddam negative ffs

[Chewy]

C'mon mido, step your game up for us!

[nuttyhotspurs]

lee looking dodgy early on (no surprise there!)

[MaccYid]

lee looking dodgy early on (no surprise there!)

the lad needs shooting

[Chewy]

Oh My God Mido!! That is exactly the type of chance that berbatov would stick away.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Oh My God Mido!! That is exactly the type of chance that berbatov would stick away.

that was very very poor. how ya like that one mido_pharoah mido_foerver whoever you are

[\jackdaw]

How on earth did he get it so far away from the goal !!

[nuttyhotspurs]

the lad needs shooting

good choice. death by firing squad

[nuttyhotspurs]

How on earth did he get it so far away from the goal !!

only he knows that but i have a feeling he will put one away today. liverpools defence can be dodgy at times

[MaccYid]

that was very very poor. how ya like that one mido_pharoah mido_foerver whoever you are

he has gone very quiet today, no doubt like his lover boy mido will be today

[\jackdaw]

We have made a couple openings and had a couple chances, lets hope we are not going to regret not scoring by full time.

[nuttyhotspurs]

what exactly does jol think lee is good at? defending? going forward? positioning? i think he scores low on all aspects of play

[jrio]

Your obsessed with me mate. From these type of posts to your 'translating' my posts to your signature, which is a dig at me from three months ago when I suggested the very common 433 system when we had no wingers.

You've such a fixation with trying to make me look bad that it's actually a compliment.
As usual you can't dispute the facts so you make it a personal issue.

Your right that I don't always pay strict attention to the facts. I also go my gut. I think we can win tomorrow. Believe it or not we have a good side and have a smashing home record. Liverpools keeper, Hypia, Agger, and Finnan this year don't impress me that much. I think they can be got at. I predict a score draw or a win for us.

What about Shania Twain? Does she impress you much? I predict you will have revised your prediction after seeing King, Lennon and Berb missing.

And what's actually going on with you is that you have a deep pessimism and negativity and then you go and look for facts as to why you think spurs will struggle. Both in games and over the season. You do it ALL the time and your usually wrong. I don't get where your coming from at all. This is the most exciting time in spurs history for 15 years.
No, I look at the facts and then reason we won't qualify for CL or beat Arsenal or whatever it is.

What the hell were you like when we really were a badly run club with a distinctly average team?
Funnily enough exactly the same.

What I do with my predictions is try to be as objective as possible with predicting our games and our season. To do that I have to try to separate myself from my love of this great club.

You for some reason are just on a spurs put down bender and try to put down others who show enthusiasm for the club. And what is the definition of a supporter but a enthusiast for the game and your club, and a SUPPORTER.

Sometimes that is about being critical when appropriate.

And I would say that is exactly what I do but I don't believe in predicting victories I don't believe in just because I'm a fan.

[MaccYid]

lets just concentrate on the game lads, we all want the same thing... a spurs win

[denis-cro]

Very bad performance from our lads...

[denis-cro]

C´mon Jol, react, Lee is having a nightmare FFS

[Chewy]

Bring back EKOTTO!! Lee could cost us this game!

[nuttyhotspurs]

Very bad performance from our lads...

we are only 30 mins in dude. what did you expect?

[Chewy]

C´mon Jol, react, Lee is having a nightmare FFS

Gardner would be mustard in LB, only option would be to pack out the mid-field by bringing on murphy and just have Chimbonda, Davenport and Dawson at the back and that could be a nightmare!

[Chewy]

we are only 30 mins in dude. what did you expect?

For us to play well? Is it too much to expect players to have a good game for 90mins?

[nuttyhotspurs]

god that linesman likes puttin his flag up. 2 extremely close decisions. i thought advantage was meant to go to the attacker? maybe he got a new flag for xmas

[nuttyhotspurs]

For us to play well? Is it too much to expect players to have a good game for 90mins?

not many teams ever have a good game for 90 mins. it was obvious they were gonna go at us right from the start. esp when they found out we would be missing king

[MaccYid]

not many teams ever have a good game for 90 mins. it was obvious they were gonna go at us right from the start. esp when they found out we would be missing king

very good point mate

[Chewy]

Everything is going their way.

[Chewy]

not many teams ever have a good game for 90 mins. it was obvious they were gonna go at us right from the start. esp when they found out we would be missing king

We're letting them come at us though. We need to close them down better and chase the ball.

[nuttyhotspurs]

lets hope its a game of 2 halves!! :D surely they cant keep this pace up for 90?

[nuttyhotspurs]

mido shud of put his head on that

[Chewy]

We're playing smart. We're not making many mistakes (besides Lee) and passing well. I think we can get something from the game.

[nuttyhotspurs]

****in zokora

[denis-cro]

this is gonna be very bad...

[Chewy]

I had to say it didn't I.

[nuttyhotspurs]

We're playing smart. We're not making many mistakes (besides Lee) and passing well. I think we can get something from the game.

famous last words mate

[MaccYid]

****en hell!!!!! what the **** is Zakora playing at!!!!

[denis-cro]

This is perfect match for MJ to show what manager he is. There is no problem (for any team ) to win a match with players like Lennon, Berbatov and King in the squad, but I like to se Jol manage a victory without WC players...I doubt that today we´ll take something from this match...

[Chewy]

We're playing smart. We're not making many mistakes (besides Lee) and passing well. I think we can get something from the game.

This is joke, right?!

Bear in mind that I said this before zokora ****ed up.

[nuttyhotspurs]

zokora seriously needs to take a look at his performances recently and get a grip of himself coz hes also becoming a liability. it shud be murphy in the middle with the hudd on recent performances

[SurreySpur]

My sopcast wont work......what did Zokora do?

[mjbmedia]

it will be one of those where who starts best will score first and end up losing the game
have faith fellow spurs

[nuttyhotspurs]

My sopcast wont work......what did Zokora do?

gave ball away with a piss poor pass near edge of the box and liverpool took advantage

[\jackdaw]

have faith fellow spurs

I always have faith till the final whistle ....

[\jackdaw]

gave ball away with a piss poor pass near edge of the box and liverpool took advantage

But Lee could of done more in the box to stop him shooting

[scottyp]

Any one managed to find a decent stream for this??

[nuttyhotspurs]

But Lee could of done more in the box to stop him shooting

that goes without saying though! the korean ****

COME ON LADS!!!! LETS HAVE A BETTER HALF!!!!
COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!

[nuttyhotspurs]

Any one managed to find a decent stream for this??

flfooty is spot on

[mjbmedia]

Any one managed to find a decent stream for this??
fl footy is blinding today

[\jackdaw]

flfooty is good but since I told the bank to shove its account up its ass I dont have any cards anymore so makes it a bit akward to use.. 8P

[MaccYid]

Time to go for it, i would bring on Berbatov and go 3 up front, (not putting mido at left midfield) 3 up top, ok it will open us up but **** it, i thought our slogan was audere est facere.... i would rather go down knowing we went for it!!! ohh i would take off Ghaly for berbatov

[MaccYid]

Is ghaly good enough for us?? not sure at the moment

[nuttyhotspurs]

Is ghaly good enough for us?? not sure at the moment

on todays performance ... yes hes good enough for us

get murphy and berby on jol for gods sake

[Chewy]

murphy on for zokora

[nuttyhotspurs]

good substitution mj

[MaccYid]

zakora has not been the same since he had his malaria, we always have our old players score against us, so here's hoping Murphy can do the same

[Chewy]

Berbatov coming on :)

[SurreySpur]

Here Comes Berby!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nuttyhotspurs]

and now an even better one

[nuttyhotspurs]

well done davers!

[denis-cro]

20 min gone in 2nd Half, no improvement:(

[SurreySpur]

65mins gone and we get our first corner of the game!!

[MaccYid]

come on, we can get an equaliser

[Chewy]

****ing hell look at the rain.

[Thfc4Life]

This performance is abysmal, sort it out lads!!

[\jackdaw]

Exactly what i was thinking its pissing down

[SurreySpur]

****....so close

[Chewy]

****kk Crossbar!

[nuttyhotspurs]

jammy ****in ****s

[Chewy]

C'mon Spurs!!!!!!!!!!

[SurreySpur]

C'mon lads.....we can get back into this.

[SurreySpur]

I cant believe this!!! we have to get something out of this.

[nuttyhotspurs]

berby what a class act

[Chewy]

Ghaly Is A Muppet

[\jackdaw]

Witht the pitch as wet as it is anything can happen in the next 15 minutes

[denis-cro]

Berbs is playing like 100% fit, WTF was he on the bench???:mad:

[Chewy]

Berbatov is a legend!!

[MaccYid]

Berbs is playing like 100% fit, WTF was he on the bench???:mad:

very good question

[nuttyhotspurs]

prob coz there was only 30mins left. he can go all out

[denis-cro]

ghaly should be transfer listed at once!!!

[nuttyhotspurs]

Ghaly For ****s Sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SurreySpur]

Ghaly is seriously starting to piss me off, he really lacks composure in front of goal. For **** Sake.

[nuttyhotspurs]

Ghaly is seriously starting to piss me off, he really lacks composure in front of goal. For **** Sake.

he lacks composure everywhere on the pitch

[MaccYid]

murphy playing well

[nuttyhotspurs]

so ****ing unlucky

[SurreySpur]

This is not good for the heart.

[Mido11_pharaoh]

How is my favourite Striker Mido playing ?......I think this match was so heavy pressur to take for him , wasn't it ?

[MaccYid]

jammy scouse bastards!!!

[\jackdaw]

How is my favourite Striker Mido playing ?......I think this match was so heavy pressur to take for him , wasn't it ?

Dont even ask .. he missed 2 sitters in the first half and then was sustituted

[MaccYid]

How is my favourite Striker Mido playing ?......I think this match was so heavy pressur to take for him , wasn't it ?

he was shit and a embarrassment to spurs and egypt

[Mido11_pharaoh]

We have a feast today here in Egypt ?....Only stupid people are being home at this moment here ?.....But I'm home to see spurs winning !!!!

[mjbmedia]

elbow the scouse ****s teeth in calum

[\jackdaw]

Our crosses into the box have been exceptionally woeful ..

[Mido11_pharaoh]

he was shit and a embarrassment to spurs and egypt

:D :D :D **** you Mido and **** your fans ....:mad: ..... Come on berbatov you are better I swear !

[MaccYid]

liverpool are ****en shit and the luckiest team in the EPL

[MaccYid]

:D :D :D **** you Mido and **** your fans ....:mad: ..... Come on berbatov you are better I swear !

what are you going on about??

[mjbmedia]

good game shame we didnt play like that the whole ****ing game MJ take note you negative **** fed up with not going for it from the off

[Mido11_pharaoh]

liverpool are ****en shit and the luckiest team in the EPL

:( :( :( :(

[denis-cro]

I´ll be very,very,very pissed off with MJ if he starts next game vs Pompey with Lee and Ghaly in starting XI...:mad:

Could someone tell me... was this ref also against Everton???:cool:

[nuttyhotspurs]

How is my favourite Striker Mido playing ?......I think this match was so heavy pressur to take for him , wasn't it ?

i think u are gay. **** off

[Mido11_pharaoh]

what are you going on about??

I just hate to see a player a reason for lossing a game ....that is all....I wanted to see Liverpool beaten

[highlander]

for **** sake this is ridiculous. thank God we are only days away from the transfer window

[Mido11_pharaoh]

i think u are gay. **** off

I'm a girl !

[Chewy]

I just hate to see a player a reason for lossing a game ....that is all....I wanted to see Liverpool beaten

Go away...please

[mjbmedia]

so we still cant beat one of the top teams (without Polls assistance)
we played well 2nd half, try being more adventurous from the start in future

happy new year

[nuttyhotspurs]

**** ghaly back to egypt he is absolute shit.

murphy must start against pompey. let zokora warm the bench until he sorts himself out

[nuttyhotspurs]

I'm a girl !

u r a girl. can u please still **** off

[shoot_ffs]

i have to say i thought lee had a poor game, but he had so much responsibility in the first half, i'm not surprised he's nervous. none of our midfield take responsibility for play making, and it's left to him and daws to find a miracle ball.
once bellamy went off we started to believe atleast. i can't argue with the result as we just aren't tough enough to beat organised teams, and we have some seriously lightweight players. i like ghaly but he struggled in front of goal today, but he's just one of those that doesn't score many. murphy did really well and atleast got stuck in, if we sell him we need two more tacklers in the middle. zokora and malbranque can get their p45's now as far as i'm concerned, they are truly hopeless. the result reflects our status in the league top 7 at best.

[nuttyhotspurs]

playing mido from the start was a poor decision. berby didnt look very ill to me.

he completley changed the game and in the end we were unlucky not to get a point. a game of 2 halves except we werent clinical enough.

we are desperately missing lennon

[denis-cro]

let zokora warm the bench until he sorts himself out

Well said. Zokora is very good player, even one of my favourites, but he is far away from what he used to be:(

[hastingsyid]

Absolutely ****ing speechless...and thats not like me

[Chewy]

A good CB and a GREAT LM in the sales please.

[hastingsyid]

Still ****ing speechless

[highlander]

Wes Brown, Louis Boa Morte & Teddy Sheringham/Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbank a.s.a.p.

[nuttyhotspurs]

A good CB and a GREAT LM in the sales please.

i thought davers and daws did alright today. shaky start but didnt do much wrong. a left midfielder is absolutely essential we MUST NOT miss out buying one again or it will cost us a european place

i read jol wants ashley young from watford in the mirror today. v gud young player but not the answer for our left side surely??

[nuttyhotspurs]

Wes Brown, Louis Boa Morte & Teddy Sheringham/Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbank a.s.a.p.

i wud be very happy wiv boa morte. he is exactly the TYPE of player we need on the left

[highlander]

i read jol wants ashley young from watford in the mirror today. v gud young player but not the answer for our left side surely??

he would be a great signing. would only serve to push and back up Lennon, which judging by Ghaly's last few games, is needed

[nuttyhotspurs]

Still ****ing speechless

did u get wet??

[nuttyhotspurs]

he would be a great signing. would only serve to push and back up Lennon, which judging by Ghaly's last few games, is needed


good point. it says we have offered 3m surely watford would want double that

[shakey18]

I think Zokora needs a season to fully settle in.I know it's as fraustrating as ****, but i think if we stick with him we will see just how good he is next year.I agree with those who have said he hasn't been the same since the malaria thing, but he IS class and will show it.As for the window, i hope we sign a CB a LB and lets hope the Ashley Young rumours are true.As for Berbatov, well total ****in class.We NEED him fit and he HAS to play.Just think how good he'll be after a season to get used to the EPL!.Keep the faith one and all!!. COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[highlander]

good point. it says we have offered 3m surely watford would want double that

im sure if we offered around £3million and gave them Routledge for the rest of the season the couldnt really complain

[nuttyhotspurs]

As for Berbatov, well total ****in class.We NEED him fit and he HAS to play.Just think how good he'll be after a season to get used to the EPL!.Keep the faith one and all!!. COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

well said. wen he came on today. his touch, skill and awareness even in that heavy rain was outstanding

defoe had a very frustrating afternoon

[nuttyhotspurs]

im sure if we offered around £3million and gave them Routledge for the rest of the season the couldnt really complain

isnt routledge on a season long loan? or is it till jan

[highlander]

isnt routledge on a season long loan? or is it till jan

i was under the impression it was until Jan but if the deal hinged on it we could recall him from Fulham without too many complaints

[nuttyhotspurs]

i was under the impression it was until Jan but if the deal hinged on it we could recall him from Fulham without too many complaints

its a season loan. just checked sky sports.com

how do loans work? can we just ask for him back? would we have to pay compensation?

[highlander]

i think we can ask for him back, and as he doesnt play particularly regularly Fulham probably wont moan

[jrio]

We could have called him back but Chris Coleman revealed earlier that he has permission to play him in the FA Cup, indicating he probably won't return unless we get a large number of injuries in January.

[Welsh Spur]

I read around the time of the deal that Routledge is not allowed to be recalled from loan until Jan. So the upcoming window would be our first chance to recall him, if we so wished.

[suBerb]

Without the likes of King, Lennon, Berbatov, Keane...it's difficult to win against Liverpool. Nontheless, we didn't deserve to lose.

[Welsh Spur]

Without the likes of King, Lennon, Berbatov, Keane...it's difficult to win against Liverpool. Nontheless, we didn't deserve to lose.

I'm waiting for MOTD to see these 'sitters' Ghaly missed. Same story at Anfield when Jenas missed a goal-on-a-plate! Apparently we also gave them a good going over in the last 30 min....shame we couldn't snatch the equaliser.

In the last few seasons we've shown we're not overly worse than the top 4 even matched or bettered them so why do we always seem to come off worse?

[jrio]

They weren't sitters but half chances that he blazed wide in difficult conditions, not really comparable to the one Jenas missed.

[suBerb]

I think that we are going to finish 6-8th in the league. My feeling is that this season our competions will be the UEFA and FA cups. We have reached the semies in the Carling cup but we haven't played good so far and personally I don't expect to reach the final. Besides, after each game for the Curl. cup we are shit in the league whereas after each game in Europe we are excellent and win.

[mjbmedia]

im sure if we offered around £3million and gave them Routledge for the rest of the season the couldnt really complain
are you serious???? hes worth closer to £8 and theyd be mugs to take any less

[Welsh Spur]

Are you talking about Ashley Young?

[suBerb]

Are you talking about Ashley Young?

Boa Morte, mate

[shoot_ffs]

is boa even fit and playing at the mo? we don't need another crock. i would think we could get young for 5m, but they sure won't sell him in the position they're in and no strikers. i think we'll finish in the euro spots for next year without any problem, newcastle might be our biggest problem as their players return. Can't see pompey hanging it up there, a result there monday should put paid to that, should be a good open game. the club seem very quiet about lennon's injury, maybe we'll recall routy after all. atleast jol said king will only miss the pompey game. the bad news is pompey rested kanu and he loves scoring against us. i can't wait for the transfers to start as we really do need to strenghten.

[mjbmedia]

i was talking about ashley young yes note not saying id pay £8m

[highlander]

i was talking about ashley young yes note not saying id pay £8m

he hasnt even completed a single season in the prem there is no way he's wprth anything near £8million, half that and maybe, but not 8

[mjbmedia]

i wouldnt sell him for less unless there was a 30%+ sell on fee , hes young (literally) and is gonna get better , stronger etc and grow in value and he plays in a crap team ,with good players around him hell be even better (as per under 21s) and hes already better than Downing

£8m no less , we was dead lucky with Lennon cos of Leeds predicament there wont be another bargain like him for years

HNY

[highlander]

everybody knows Watford are going to be relegated, clubs in that position cant really command top dollar for their players, i would imagine Young would want to move onto a bigger club (which we are) so they wont get more than £4million for him i shouldnt imagine

[mjbmedia]

well we will see , place your bets now :cool:

[JJ]

Ghaly was awful today. Mido wasn't really any better.

Didn't start playing until Berba was on, but even then they hadn't really done anything so to lose is a right ****.

[choda]

Very disappointing, but **** it. We had bad injuries, didn't see them in the build up. Arsenal are just as inconsistant.

I didn't see the game but will watch taped highlights in a while.

Bring on the window and some extra reinforcements. Hopefully at least one more out and out winger. This added to the continued improvement should see us still challenge for fourth.

[Gregzy]

Can't quite see how Mido was given the nod over Berbatov - he and Defoe must surely be the current ideal pairing. Ghaly was useless - I accept the conditions were atrocious, but the way he hit that first shot would have been unacceptable in a midweek clash in a local under-13's leauge.

Despite all the (totally valid) talk of another winger, we really need to get some quality cover at centre-back. Dawson is going to be one of Europe's best defenders one day but at the moment he isn't quite good enough to be the senior partner in the centre-back pairing. Sherrif Ledley needs a deputy!

[Welsh Spur]

Despite all the (totally valid) talk of another winger, we really need to get some quality cover at centre-back. Dawson is going to be one of Europe's best defenders one day but at the moment he isn't quite good enough to be the senior partner in the centre-back pairing. Sherrif Ledley needs a deputy!

Don't agree with this at all, so you're saying that Dawson has no more right to the CB spot alongside Ledders than Davenport?

[jrio]

Agreed, I've been mightily impressed with Dawson since his commanding debut at Anfield 2 years ago which meant that we could be largely spared the sight of waiting for a colossal Gardner error in future games. His distribution reminds me of Ruddock with those long diagonal balls to the wings. There was an instance yesterday in the first half when he and Davenport were keeping the ball, waiting for an opening and gradually being forced deeper, when he knocked it straight to the feet of Lee on the left. Of course, Lee was too ineffective to make anything of it and the ball came almost straight back, wasting some intelligent, measured distribution. Dawson could probably work on over-committing himself against strikers. It's a part of his game we all love to see when we're under pressure, Dawson blocking shots and straining to win every header, but he picks up too many easy bookings as he did against Darren Bent in the 4th minute against Charlton.