New National Manager

[SurreySpur]

With The FA saying that they hope to reveal the new England manager by the end of the week, Who do you WANT to be appointed and Who do u THINK will be named the new boss?
A lot of other nations have gone with Past players and Icons. Germany have Jurgen and the Dutch have gone with Marco Van Basten, even the irish have gone down the same road and appointed Steve Staunton, none have previous managerial experience. Do you need an experienced tactician or just someone that can get the players fired up? After all, most of the national teams play with the same formations as the top teams in their respective leagues so the majority of the players already know the sytems and what to do in nearly every eventuality. Is there a Man that could fulfill this role and spark the nations enthusiasm in the same way the El tel did?

[Speedy]

i would like Martin O Neill, but i think they have their hearts set on an english manager. Mclaren isnt up to it yet, but then none of them are in as much as they havnt won any trophies or challenged for any titles. i would have thought to manage one of the larger football nations you would have to have been a winning manager. the league cup isnt enough, i think we will get Big Phil Scolari

[Spur]

Steve Mac will get it, he should do because it's what he's been groomed for all these years by Sven. But there is no Englishman who should. It should be Big Phil Scolari, or if not him then Martin O'Neill is the next best.

[Norn Iron Spur]

Agree Martin ONeill would do a great job for England, but I cant see it, expect Steve Mac will get it.

[SurreySpur]

Martin O'neill has the Charisma to do the job brilliantly. Mclaren maybe the second most miserable man on the face of the planet, Arsene Wenger is obviously way out in front.

[Yiddo]

I think we have learnt our lesson about pat players and icons as England managers , I'm thinking of Keegan and Hoddle in particular.

[JJ]

We don't need a tactician for the National job. We need someone who will motivate the players so i would go for an ex-England player. Who though is a tough one...

[Welsh Spur]

Big Phil Scolari

[Spur]

Maybe we shold have one of each, asin O'Neill for the tactics, Pearce for the Churchill like speeches at half-time when we are one down?

[TomMcLaren]

One thing I hate about this whole debate is the amount of people saying "man on the street wants an English manager". Actually, there have been several opinion polls that show that MOTS wants the best man for the job, irrespective of nationality. IMO there is no English manager with the national and international track-record of delivering sucess.

Sam has done a great job with Bolton on limited funds, but he suffers the same problem as Harry Redknapp - if he can't bring in some over the hill foreign star and get him playing again, how will he cope? Then again there is always Beckham...

Steve M has also done ok at another small club, although with a lot more money spent. I just don't see him as "the gaffer" - how would he cope with the egos in the dressing room? And what has he won (yet)?

My first choice would be Big Phil - he has the experience (what a CV!) and the charisma to run the national team, and he looks as cuddly as MJ! Except with a porn star 'tash - how can he not get the job?

If not Big Phil, second choice has to be Martin O'Neil. He's coped at the top level with Celtic and, er, Leicester, and has the strength of personality to say "up yours" to the egos / British media when required. It's a shame Hidinck missed out, he would have been great, as would Fergie. Never mind eh?!


Unfortunately, doesn't look like either of my choices will get it.

[fluke]

It seems simple to me. You get the person who is going to give you the best chance of winning. The FA are a joke, it's a travesty that thay did not get Gus Hiddink. they should have given him whatever he wanted.
I like O'Neal but is having been the manager of Leicester and managing in the scottish prem really the qualifications we need. I think selection of any of the English managers would actually be a setback for our international team.

[Welsh Spur]

I think McLaren would be the WORST choice, he's involved with the team already there's nothin new he can bring...

...also is there an english boss used to managing the likes of terry, lampard, gerrard, rooney owen & co?

Plus, which Spurs players would you take to Germany this summer? (English obviously) :D

[SurreySpur]

Strength of character and the ability to give the press a run for their money are ALMOST as important as an impressive footballing CV. I'm sure Robbo/Carrick/Jenas and King(if fit) will go to germany. Im still unsure if Sven wants Defoe, he hasn't seemed to have made his mind up. He seems more keen to give any striker a starting birth ahead of him. Personally i'd like Lennon to be left out of the squad. WHEN we are in the Champ League next season he can be our little secret!!, especially in the tight away games when we want to play on the break. If he goes to the World Cup he'll be more well known and that 'suprise' factor may be lost, anyway his time will come without doubt.

[highlander]

it seems that the F.A have got this shortlist of theres down to 3, those being Big Phil Scolari, Sam Allardyce & Macca. all 3 bring a lot to the table and ill have a go at seeing what and why they should be appointed;

1. Scolari; Negative; cant yet speak english. Positives; won the WC, got to the final of the EC, born winner, has the bollocks to make the big changes, wont take any shit from players with big ego's, would be able to handle the pressure.

2. Allardyce; Negative; never won anything except promotion. Positives; worked miracles at Bolton with nothing, great track record for attracting and handling big players, can handle players with big ego's and attitudes i.e. El Hadj Diouf, interviewed best, wants it reaaly badly, can handle the pressure, good motivator, english

3. McLaren; Negative; only just starting to prove himself at club level on his own, Positives; been steady at boro, won a trophy at club level, hugely successful at man u as he did a lot of the coaching on his own, gives the continuity england have lacked, experienced with the players, worked with the whole squad, basically the england manager already, has a lot more charisma than we think.

now the overview is done my verdict is, their all great candidates and the team are in safe hands but you just cant deny big phil's WC winners medal, he's my choice then Allardyce then Macca. its not that i dont like Macca and thre idea of continuity its just the others have so much more than him.

[JuicE]

The whole thing highlights what a bunch of Dickheads we have at the FA. Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. This is a farce!
O'neil may be a decent manager but he's Irish. Nothing against that except i'm not convinced that he will have the same passion to see England succeed. Others have even commented that an Irishman would never do the job! Much like Fergie doin it!

[Gregzy]

Simple fact of the matter is this: there isn't an Englishman fit for the position. Big Sam hasn't got the experience of top-drawer players, Curbishley doesn't have the European experience and McClaren is too involved with the current set-up.

Sven was a bad choice for manager not because he is Swedish, but because his motivation is not football, but money. Assure him of his paycheck and he'll do what he has to do in the least strenuous way he can. THe opposite is true of Big Phil - this man lives and breathes football, knows the game inside out and has a need to win so great that his kids probably refuse to have a kickabout with him...

The Fa can either appease the short-sighted patriots and appoint someone by virtue of thei being the best of a mediocre bunch or actually appoint someone who will come to the job EXPECTING to win the next European Championship.

C'mon, admit it..Big Phil is the only choice for England

[MACCSPURS]

I'll take anyone who is English over any foreign based manager and I don't care what the hell he has won.

In fact, it should be a ruling that the manager of any national side should also be of that country.

Fact of the matter remains this is country v country and you should wear your heart on your sleeve and only will the passion then rub off on the team.

If Sven is supposed to be so great, why have we failed both times when it really mattered like against Brazil 1-0 up, they have 10 men, we lose 2-1.

Euro 2004, that competition was there for the taking and once Rooney had gone Sven was all out of ideas.

How many of us here could pick a winning England team? How many of us think Beckham and Owen should have been dropped? In fact, the last best English performance was when King was in the middle with Lampard and there was no Gerrard and Beckham playing.

It's not like we don't have the players and they don't know what to do, I think it is a motivational problem that we have but there is not one English player who will speak out because they all want to play.

I would go for Stuart Pearce because he will make that team want to play and all this experience talk is a load of crap.

If you are going to use experience as an arguement, then Lennon should not be going to the World Cup but I think more people would like to see him go than SWP simply because he is doing it week in, week out and players like that excite everyone and this is what the World cup is all about.

[DarlinginJapan]

[QUOTE=MACCSPURS]I'll take anyone who is English over any foreign based manager and I don't care what the hell he has won.

Fact of the matter remains this is country v country and you should wear your heart on your sleeve and only will the passion then rub off on the team.

I would go for Stuart Pearce because he will make that team want to play and all this experience talk is a load of crap. QUOTE]


So, bring back Kevin Keegan! That worked a treat!

[MACCSPURS]

I'm talking about the current candidates and we all know who they are.

Sorry, but I am not baby sitting you through my posts if you can't read between the lines.

[TomMcLaren]

*sarcasm alert*

[Norn Iron Spur]

dear dear dear, Im glad we dont have this problem in Northern Ireland, we usually end up taking anyone who is vaguely interested in the job :D

[JuicE]

dear dear dear, Im glad we dont have this problem in Northern Ireland, we usually end up taking anyone who is vaguely interested in the job :D

Yes but there is a good reason for that! ;)

[Norn Iron Spur]

Yes but there is a good reason for that! ;)

:D ha ha I know.

[Houdini logic]

Scolari has been offered the job, I would prefer a British manager, but I don't see who would do a great job except O'Neill.
Mclaren has that creepy smile which I hate and says; "I'm so proud of my boys" far too often.
Big Sam has the technological expertise, but someone has to inform him that there will be outrage if England start humping balls up to Davies..
Curbishly needs a new job quickly, he's been at charlton far too long.

[SurreySpur]

Scolari will do a great job as England Manager and is the best man for the job. I was never in the 'England need a English manager' camp, however do find it slightly sad that the best man wasn't an englishman. The top five teams in the prem are all managed by non-englishmen, The highest place team with an english manager is Newcastle with Glenn Roeder which is a worry.

[Allwhite]

I would've thought he was the best man for the job - untill someone said he cant even speak English!!! If this is the case then I cant believe we would appoint him!!! :confused:

[Houdini logic]

He can't speak English?
Hmm, this might be a slight problem then.

[TomMcLaren]

I think he speaks pigeon english, probably a bit worse than Sven did when he started. He'll have loads of time between games to take lessons, and living in a country is the best way to learn.

The guy is a born winner, a real achiever, and I am extreemly happy if these reports prove to be true!

[JuicE]

And by the sound of it he's Tom's mate!

[Allwhite]

:D If I was an England player I would rather have Big Sam than Scolari shouting the odds. Just dont like the idea of having him as manager.

[Houdini logic]

Sure he's proven, but is proven to us?
Yes, yes I guess he is.

I'm going to shut up now.

[JuicE]

At the end of the day - (yeah it gets dark!) we don't have a serious English contender. End of story! unless you get Mike Bassett!!!

[TomMcLaren]

And by the sound of it he's Tom's mate!

:p thanks! :p

[Allwhite]

I suppose he must have the credentials, i mean how hard is it to win the world cup with Brazil? (yes, im being sarcastic) :D

[Welsh Spur]

I think the only other manager better would have been Hiddink, and they ****ed that up, I dont understand why you would choose to manage Russia?

[Allwhite]

Muchos Rubles anyone? :D

[Spur]

I think it's great.

We will win everything with Big Phil - that's all that matters.

[Allwhite]

Just heard that apparently he said that portugal lost the euros cos they didnt dive and waste time!! Is that the sort of mentality we want?? Cant see Terry et al going for those sort of 'tactics'

[spurs61]

He's the antitheis of the archtypal English manager. Acheivements by an English manager in the past 40 years? **** all expect glorious defeat! Absolutley the right choice, just a shame he can't take over now before Sven ****s it all up.

[Spur]

Just heard that apparently he said that portugal lost the euros cos they didnt dive and waste time!! Is that the sort of mentality we want?? Cant see Terry et al going for those sort of 'tactics'


Yea neither can I, he doesn't stand for those sort at Chelsea...!?!?:rolleyes:

[Welsh Spur]

If i was on the same team as Drogba and Robben I'd give em both a backhander....

[Spur]

I wouldn't even have to be on the same team as them, i'd still give them a backhander.

[Welsh Spur]

its a pity coz when u get sent off for something u didnt actually do (re. Reina on Robben) You might as well have knocked the ****ers teeth out anyway!

[Allwhite]

Yea neither can I, he doesn't stand for those sort at Chelsea...!?!?:rolleyes:

Point taken, but im sure they arent TOLD to dive, they are bought up that way. (cole being the exception) If they want to dive for the clubs, then shame on them, but I dont want to see our National team lowering themselves in that way.
Sir Alf will be turning in his grave!!

[Keanoldinho]

Scolari is a class act and way better than anyone else in the running for the position. He's not afraid to shake it up either so the days of Beckham and his buddies being shoe ins are over now you'll have to earn your place in the National team

[highlander]

we all want scolari, at the very start of this he was my 2nd choice behind Guus Hiddink but now the F.A. have pissed that 1 up so they really cant afford to get this one wrong, Scolari's one of a dying breed, the fergie and dare i say it Clough schhol of thought and action and the man just exudes the winning mentality, get him and we'll win it all.

[Houdini logic]

Yeah but still... He isn't English.

But I hope the grumpy bastard gives our press a hard time

[Houdini logic]

Yeah but still... He isn't English.

But I hope the grumpy bastard gives our press a hard time

[Welsh Spur]

'the ultimate ambition of every red-blooded English football man has now been snatched from them and handed on a plate to whichever foreign mercenary takes the FA's trendy fancy.' Jeff Powell, An idiot from the daily rag, the mirror.

What a load of shit. There is in my opinion, no english manager capable of doing what is neccessary with this current squad, and that's winning everything, because it is the best all-round squad in the world. I'm welsh, and we always have welsh managers, and we're shit! (Apart from Hughesy, who was poached by, yes, an english team lol.)

[SurreySpur]

It doesnt matter where the manager is from as long as he's the best man for the job. Simple as that.

[Welsh Spur]

It doesnt matter where the manager is from as long as he's the best man for the job. Simple as that.

Exactly. :D

[Gregzy]

Darn tooting. Let's just hope that next time the job comes around that there's a viable English choice. Until then, let's just get behind a proven winner!

[SurreySpur]

The only thing that slightly gets to me is the fact he speaks no english and that he wants to bring in all his own people. While it will give the whole of the england camp a fresh feel it would be good to have a little continuity.

[Spur]

Bollocks to that - I WANT A WORLD CUP

[Welsh Spur]

all this talk of the replacement makes u forget that its eriksson in charge this summer....

....does anyone think he can finally deliver?

[SurreySpur]

i'd love to say yes but i have a feeling it'll be another summer of disapointment.

[SurreySpur]

So Phil Scolari has withdrawn his interest in the England Job due to Media intrusion. Once again the press have fcuked it up again!!! Now we're going to end up with maclaren. Please no............

[Allwhite]

I for one am glad he turned it down, however if we get MacLaren I will be even more pissed off!!
Big Sam all the way now i reckon.....

[Spur]

If not Scolari then it has to be O'Neill. The others are just not good enough.

[SurreySpur]

It has to be o'neill. He's his own man and wont take any crap from the media and the FA. We dont need another yes man. Please dont let it be maclaren.

[SurreySpur]

The FA just dont seem to have a clue how to handle pressure situations. Why didnt they offer him the job, get a signature and announce it after the world cup when it suited everyone. Why do we have to have a new manager announced BEFORE the world cup? Does it not disturb the current set-up?

[Welsh Spur]

Definately, not that sven deserves the support, but he's still the national manager and the man who's bidding to bring us the world cup NOW. Not in four years. At the moment I couldnt even care about the next manager. Our FA is a joke, couldnt arrange a piss up in a brewery.

[SurreySpur]

So Curbishley has resigned, will we see anouncement over the next few days?

[Keanoldinho]

Curbs and McLaren are the typical FA ass kissers. If they have their way it will be one of them snobby sh!te managers. If it has to be English feck it get Pearce in there to stir up some sh!te and go for broke.

[AndyHarker]

Ossie is currently looking for a job! Think i might start the

"Ardilles for England"

campaign, what do we think???

Failing that how about Big MJ as a part time England manager (obviously don't want him to leave us) but just think he could have a quiet word in all the players ears, how good would Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard all running their contracts out and moving to the spurs on a bosman?

[SurreySpur]

MJ wouldn't consider the England job, he seems to see the Spurs job as a real opportunity. I personally dont think that it would be possible to do the england job on a part-time basis.

[Spur]

Wouldn't consider the England job but how about others?

PSV need a manager. And Ajax have had a shocking season. Personally I see keeping Jol as top priority, it is very plausible that he might consider leaving for either of them clubs.

[Welsh Spur]

Possibly....would be devastating, but nothing's been said about that so let's hope Jol's army continues to progress next year

[SurreySpur]

Apperenty Jol turned down an approach by AJAX last season, i dont think he'll go till he's won a few trophies.

[SurreySpur]

Steve Maclaren has just been named as the new england coach. I feel fairly indifferent and after 'boring' sven i would have liked a manager who could conjour up some public enthusiasm, i dont think steve maclaren is the man.

[AndyHarker]

Totally agree, although i'm hoping the media take to McClaren more than they did to Sven!

I always felt that the media were overly critical of Sven, he didn't do a bad job, his personality (or lack off) just seemed to rub the press up the wrong way!

I wish we had got big phil, a manager with a reputation for tw@ing jouro's, because they would have probably have backed off him and let him get on with his job, ie bringing glory back to the green, green hills of blighty!

[reaper_1]

I have had my concerns for the past few months regarding the candidates especially mclaren and curbs . Personally I think we needed a complete change . I would rather have seen allardyce or o'neill. O'neill isn't english but he spent his career in an english league but his energy would have transfered onto the pitch . But it's over and all we can do is hope mclaren does something... personally i'm not sure if he has the tools to do it. As much as they hype him he is no fergie.

[Welsh Spur]

Allardyce would do **** all......does well with ageing players past their sell by dates, but all the english squad are big name players which he has no experience with....i dont reckon he would have been the right choice anyway.

[DonJolSpurano]

the only man for the job was guus hiddink...brilliant coach and would have done an excellent job with england.

not too fussed on mcclaren but thank god it isnt allardyce. the guys done naff all the premiership apart from moan and buy oap's on big wages. has no idea how to actually nurture young players and improve them, like all great coaches can. plus, it would have meant nicky hunt at right back :eek:

[AndyHarker]

Although he's not my first choice, i think now is the time to put the whole farce behind us and just get behind him and the lads! He does know the whole squad (after working with sven) and fingers crossed it will all go to plan in the qualification for 2008!

[SurreySpur]

The whole England Setup has way too many cliques. We needed a manager that would come in and shake up the whole squad, it seems that too many players i.e beckham think their place is always secure regardless of form or fitness, i cant see this changing under Maclaren.