What did Terry say to King???

[DonJolSpurano]

something really upset chimbonda and zokora. king didnt look too pleased either and he's usually pretty placid.

he told him to f**k off twice but there was something else that neither my dad nor i could make out.

anyone else knw?

[JJ]

The angle they had on Sky seemed to show him only saying **** off twice, then he said prick. That looked about all it was, but he dragged Ledley to the ground and kind of threw him down. It seemed as if Chimbonda reacted when Terry bumped Ekotto.

[SurreySpur]

I jumped to the conclussion yesterday that Terry may have said something racist as it was Ekotto and chimboda that reacted angrilly. But in the cold light of day i dont think Terry is the sort of player that would say that sort of thing.

[DonJolSpurano]

maybe im just fanning some flames but i did wonder when i saw chimbo and zokora fly at him.

it looked like he said

"f**k off ????. f**k off you ????"

i dont knw what it was, people are saying pr!ck but im not sure.

[SurreySpur]

A few spurs fans called into talksport's breakfast show suggesting that racist comments were made by John Terry towards King.

[DonJolSpurano]

A few spurs fans called into talksport's breakfast show suggesting that racist comments were made by John Terry towards King.

that could be just trying to make a story though

[SurreySpur]

Yeah your probably right, i just cant recall seeing ledley react to anything like that before. He seemed very angry and had to be pulled away by Robbo.

[bundy]

Yeah your probably right, i just cant recall seeing ledley react to anything like that before. He seemed very angry and had to be pulled away by Robbo.

Terry must have been booked for 1 of 2 things. Either his collision with Ekotto or the initial contact with King, because if it was for any other aspect of the confrontation, it would had to have been down to something he said - Which should have warranted a straight red and not a booking.

My conclusion is that Graham Poll is wrong regardless. Neither of the reasons possible for him giving the yellow card were worthy of a booking.

[DonJolSpurano]

Yeah your probably right, i just cant recall seeing ledley react to anything like that before. He seemed very angry and had to be pulled away by Robbo.

i knw what you mean. thats what got me slighlty sus

[Spur]

Yea it looked to me he said '**** off...**** off you prick'. Then it was when he bumped Benny that Poll blew the whistle. Either way, Terry didn't argue or make out it was wrong.

He's a **** anyway, and the Spurs faithful made sure he knew it.

[hastingsyid]

whatever he said chimbo should have decked him.....lol seriously tho im not too sure what was said if was racist or what

[Spur]

The only reason I think there may have been something racist said is because all of our black players went mad.

[JJ]

The only reason I think there may have been something racist said is because all of our black players went mad.

Yeah, it did seem very odd that King, Chimbonda and Zokora were the ones to react.

Like people said, King isn't the type to talk shit and get into it with players like that, but something happened that he clearly didn't tolerate.

[Gregzy]

The only people that could verify whether or not a racist remark was made are the players. If there had been such a comment made, I'd hope our boys would bring it to wider attention and expose whoever needed to be exposed.

I don't think Terry is that kind of a player, but you never really know. If something racist was said, and heard by the ref, then to me a straight red should be the result...

Have to wait for the report, I guess...

[JJ]

Yeah, i don't really think anything racist was said. I think King was just pissed because Terry deliberately hauled him down, and in an aggressive manner having already pushed him twice. Chimbonda and Zokora probably just reacted to Terry bumping Ekotto.

[Spur]

'Terry is not that sort of player'...

That's exactly the person and player he is thats why he's been done for it in the past!

That's like saying Lee Bowyer is a great guy.

[JJ]

'Terry is not that sort of player'...

That's exactly the person and player he is thats why he's been done for it in the past!

That's like saying Lee Bowyer is a great guy.

He's the kind of player that can't take it when things aren't going his way. That's why he kicked the ball at Deco the other day as well.

[zidanebenji]

i think it was a racist remark, cause even SWP went up to terry and ad a shout at him...

[mjbmedia]

learn your history, Rio Ferdinand was racially abused by John Terry last year and was amazed at it but it was witnessed by G Neville amongst others.

of course he racially abused Ledley, why the **** else would it only be our black guys who were so incensed and why the **** would JT accept the card without any moaning.

the **** was no better when he was out and about down Romford before he was picked for ENgland , pushing and picking on any non white who happened to be in the vicinity with his piky mates around him as backup.

Poll didnt say it on sky cos he didnt want to cause trouble for the england set up , and hats off to him for that, tho Mourinho doenst seem to realise it and hopefully Poll will tell the truth and drop JT right in it
lets start a campaign to oust him from englands team

[Spur]

On most of his performances he shouldn't even be in the England team.

On most performances it should be Daws and Ledders.

[mjbmedia]

Hang on, on this forum poster have made allusions to the colour of player and `black boys club`... is this whole thing not a little hypocritical?

Yes Terry is played shitloads and should keep his gob shut, but with the like of some supporters using colour as a referance then how can we start dragging a soapbox out unless we get our own house in order?

I fully expect to get flamed for actually going against the grain, but this myopic double standard makes the points posted a joke....
errrr well now ledley king is black is he not?????? most arsenal players are black are they not, hence the black boys club reference in a related thread . Simply due to the colour of their skin they are black as opposed to Dawson etc who is white, its really quite simple .
they can all be called useless ****s without many people seeing any problem , however call them a useless black **** and suddenly its racist, a view which in essence i agree with .

whereas in summing up you are clearly just a ****ing **** whatever colour you are youre just a ****ing ****

everyone has a right to their own views , even if others call it racist , but those views shouldnt come out in those peoples professional moments ie in a match , if you want to say that noone can be racist then thats just as bad as being racist , if you use the black word merely as a descriptive word then thats fine , which i do believe ive done mostly (unless im talking about a gooner or mourinho then i dont give a **** if im horrible about them cos id sooner watch them die than chat with you

[jrio]

errrr well now ledley king is black is he not?????? most arsenal players are black are they not, hence the black boys club reference in a related thread . Simply due to the colour of their skin they are black as opposed to Dawson etc who is white, its really quite simple .
they can all be called useless ****s without many people seeing any problem , however call them a useless black **** and suddenly its racist, a view which in essence i agree with .

whereas in summing up you are clearly just a ****ing **** whatever colour you are youre just a ****ing ****

everyone has a right to their own views , even if others call it racist , but those views shouldnt come out in those peoples professional moments ie in a match , if you want to say that noone can be racist then thats just as bad as being racist , if you use the black word merely as a descriptive word then thats fine , which i do believe ive done mostly (unless im talking about a gooner or mourinho then i dont give a **** if im horrible about them cos id sooner watch them die than chat with you

King isn't actually black just as I am not actually white, it's just verbal shorthand. Clearly the use of "black boys club" is racist - how are you so unable to accept that? Black is used perjoratively to mean racially inferior, that's why it's used by others in insults like "black bastard" etc. Afro-caribbean males were referred to as boys to indicate that they didn't have the same standing as Anglo-Saxon men, but instead had the same relationship as boys to men.

No one can stop someone thinking as they do but you're mistaken to think that entitles them to propogate those views. You support a club with a Jewish background yet your thinking leads to the idea that being anti-semitic is as bad as saying no one can be anti-semitic! What you seem to be saying is that you want the right to be a racist and don't feel you should be criticised for it. Well, you can think as racistly as you want but don't inflict it on here where it's not welcome.

[taran]

This is stupid the worlds best defenders swearing although ledley had no issues it that john terry that messes things up its really childish you know ?

[singapore spur]

This is stupid the worlds best defenders swearing although ledley had no issues it that john terry that messes things up its really childish you know ?

im sorry , ive tried but cant make head nor tail of this post .

according to the bbc terry has said that poll gave him two different reasons for the 2nd yellow card , pulling down sir ledley , and running deliberately into ghaly , so doesnt seem to be any racial comments thrown , or at least none heard by the ref . either way we won

[DonJolSpurano]

King isn't actually black just as I am not actually white, it's just verbal shorthand. Clearly the use of "black boys club" is racist - how are you so unable to accept that? Black is used perjoratively to mean racially inferior, that's why it's used by others in insults like "black bastard" etc. Afro-caribbean males were referred to as boys to indicate that they didn't have the same standing as Anglo-Saxon men, but instead had the same relationship as boys to men.

No one can stop someone thinking as they do but you're mistaken to think that entitles them to propogate those views. You support a club with a Jewish background yet your thinking leads to the idea that being anti-semitic is as bad as saying no one can be anti-semitic! What you seem to be saying is that you want the right to be a racist and don't feel you should be criticised for it. Well, you can think as racistly as you want but don't inflict it on here where it's not welcome.


excuse me but what are you too talking about?

:confused: 'black boys club'???

i cant make out what either of you are actually trying to say, you seem bogged down by over explanation and a wish to avoid seeming racist in your posts.

[jrio]

excuse me but what are you too talking about?

:confused: 'black boys club'???

i cant make out what either of you are actually trying to say, you seem bogged down by over explanation and a wish to avoid seeming racist in your posts.
Really? Because it seems quite clear and I hadn't seen this thread with references to "black boys club".

Let me clear it up for you. I'm saying that calling Arsenal a "black boys club" is racist and have explained why.

Mjbmedia thinks that saying no one should be racist is as bad as being racist and I have explained why that doesn't make sense and is plainly wrong.

[Ioang]

Those with sky+/downloaded the match, check out the immediate aftermath. Shaun Wright Phillips runs up to a guilty looking Terry incensed, and tugs at him and shouts at him. Nuff said really.

[choda]

I must admit I think mjb maybe is a racist.

There have been just too many 'comments'.

Calling Mourinho a spik is racist. Everybody hates him but your insulting him for his race there.

There was your comments about working class people and liverpool.

And the recent black boys club.

This is not people being too sensitive. There is a line for respecting others. Some people are too sensitive with the pc shit, but there is also going too far in the other direction.

It's the same as how one should treat people generally.

And the people you are insulting lately might not hear it but I and everybody else here doesn't want to hear anybody being abused like that.

It's makes you as bad as Mourinho and makes the arsenal boys seem less accountable for their lack of sportingness.

Human beings make mistakes but you never ever hold your hands up (or properly) when in the wrong and so never learn.

[mjbmedia]

yeh fair enough, mourinho is a Portuguese whingeing ****bag then...ok!!!

Arsenal are a bunch of ****s whatever colour they are, end of story with that one. the black boys club referred toungue in cheek to the young lads that Wenger has been accruing at the club over the past XX years , he has a reputation amongst people who use their brains and think of anti Arsenal things of being rather fond of young French/African lads and if you spend time with some people eg in spurs pubs that gets into your head rather
of course if you didnt spend time with spurs supporters in spurs pubs then that wont get into your head.
if i upset anyone then thats a shame, if you get upset by someone being nasty towards Arsenal or Chelsea then youre sad , thats a favourite pasttime of most spurs supporters .

cant remember what you all had a problem with other than that and i really dont care.

Black is a colour , white is a colour. if a South American say was watching the spurs defence and they didnt know King or Dawson but wanted to talk about one of them to their mate, they say the white guy or the black guy.
Absolutely no difference to their abilities or background, it would most likely be the way theyd distinguish between the two of them until they learned their names.
you tell me how the **** that can be classed as racist even by some of you ****ing morons

[laspur]

mjb, your responses do not justify the image you've created for yourself. Since i've joined the site back in April, you are the only 1 who throws out all the questionable racist remarks. Anyone can pick up these vibes except you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but don't expect people to welcome your choice of words.

I do enjoy reading your insight on the footy though, the other stuff i can do without. Now this is all from a spic(me) who's parents happen to be MEXICAN.

[Gino Ginelli]

Would I be considered a complete moron if I suggested that it's kind of ridiculous to "hate" anyone over a game?

I love the game we support and play, but really what's the sense in casting hate to someone just because of the team they support, when they're probably a good person with a family or something? Hell, you could be hating the doctor who'll cure you when you have an illness.

Tell me this, who would you feel the most animosity to? An Arsenal fan who helped an old woman who'd been knocked down in the street, or a Spurs fan who'd been convicted of *****philia?

Rivalry is great, and adds the all important spark, but letting it take you to the level of hate where persecution and violence comes into it is where the games bad reputation comes from.

Just putting my two penneth in. Sorry to get all preachy.

[Spur]

There are no ***** Spurs fans.

And if I found out a doctor of mine was an Arsenal supporter I would ask to have my doctor changed. Just like I would ask for the bed linin to be changed if it were red.

If I could I would change the colour of my blood is such of my hate for Arsenal.

[jrio]

And if you saw somebody dying in the street but on further inspection they were wearing an Arsenal badge, no doubt you'd let them die. Pretty tragic to let your obsessive hatred nullify the basic tenets of your humanity.

[Spur]

It's not because of my obsessive hatred of Arsenal.

It's because of my obsessive love for Spurs.

And i'd call an ambulance for them. Wouldn't get any blood on my hands though. I already said that I don't wish death on them. But lets say if there was a beggar in the street wearing an Arsenal cap, he ain't getting no money from me.

[Yiddo]

I choose to believe that all the people on this forum are basically good human beings. Lets not get hung up on tongue in cheek exageration for the sake of comic effect every time a post talks about Ars*nal, Chelscum, black people , Irish, muslims ,etc.
If someone is a real bigot they will soon get fed up with people ignoring their comments, if you keep replying to their posts it will encourage them.
I know it does not work when there are Tanks on the frontier, but on this forum I give everybody the benefit of the doubt until proved wrong and choose to take all posts in a positive or comic way.
Floodgates now open for abuse.

[jrio]

I'd still like to see Spur change his blood colour to blue. If anyone is aware of any scientific advances in this area please let us know. After all, you can change the colour of pretty much everything else.

Back in the early 80s one of my friends said: "Steve Perryman is so much Spurs if you cut him he'd bleed blue".
Another replied: "No, if you cut him he'd punch you in the face!"

[Spur]

I'd prefer my blood colour to be white with little bits of blue in it, for obvious reasons...if someone finds a way give me a shout.

[BgSpur]

Terry : hey King , why you got so many fans ? Our fans are pathetic :(
King : Ask Sol
Terry : Huh?
King : Doesnt matter mate , now go , i have job to do here....

[mjbmedia]

I choose to believe that all the people on this forum are basically good human beings. Lets not get hung up on tongue in cheek exageration for the sake of comic effect every time a post talks about Ars*nal, Chelscum, black people , Irish, muslims ,etc.
If someone is a real bigot they will soon get fed up with people ignoring their comments, if you keep replying to their posts it will encourage them.
I know it does not work when there are Tanks on the frontier, but on this forum I give everybody the benefit of the doubt until proved wrong and choose to take all posts in a positive or comic way.
Floodgates now open for abuse.
finally some common sense


ps re turning blood blue, drink ten bottles of neat blue curacao and dont piss for ten days , see if you can hold your liquor!!! :D

[MarlowSpurs]

ps re turning blood blue, drink ten bottles of neat blue curacao and dont piss for ten days , see if you can hold your liquor!!! :D

Blue raspberry 20/20 used to do it for me.