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DiamondGeezer
16th October 2006, 08:21 PM
In my household we have a debate going

we believe that Ledley King is better than John Terry but not many people agree. this is nothing to do with bias.

although i believe that they are two different sort of centre backs with Ledders being a more of a passing centre back a bit like rio ferdinand i still think all in all ledders is better

and on another note that Daws and Ledders is the best partnership in the premiership

what ya think guys?

choda
16th October 2006, 08:37 PM
In my household we have a debate going

we believe that Ledley King is better than John Terry but not many people agree. this is nothing to do with bias.

although i believe that they are two different sort of centre backs with Ledders being a more of a passing centre back a bit like rio ferdinand i still think all in all ledders is better

and on another note that Daws and Ledders is the best partnership in the premiership

what ya think guys?

He is better my friend. John Terry has no pace and can get caught. He's a really good player, postionally excellent and really game but if he's not protected he can get exposed like in te world cup. Chelsea's defensive unit protects him loads and it makes him look collossel.

For me Ledley is just pure and sheer class. Quietly brilliant like Paul McGrath and deceptively quick. How he played in his last two internationals at CB was like a duck to water. Pure class. I think he's better. He's got all of Rio's ability but he attacks the ball aswell and isn't a *****. In short he's also got a strong character on the pitch.

DiamondGeezer
16th October 2006, 08:39 PM
He is better my friend. John Terry has no pace and can get caught. He's a really good player, postionally excellent and really game but if he's not protected he can get exposed like in te world cup. Chelsea's defensive unit protects him loads and it makes him look collossel.

For me Ledley is just pure and sheer class. Quietly brilliant like Paul McGrath and deceptively quick. How he played in his last two internationals at CB was like a duck to water. Pure class. I think he's better. He's got all of Rio's ability but he attacks the ball aswell and isn't a *****. In short he's also got a strong character on the pitch.

glad u agree mate

anyone else?

Spur
16th October 2006, 09:16 PM
Ledley is most certainly the most consistent English centre back.

Terry generally always looks good. But if you actually watch him those last ditch tackles or saves that he makes are usually his own fault to begin with. He plays better in Blue than he does for England even getting caught out against teams like Albania and Croatia.

Ledley doesn't. I don't think he makes mistakes and if he does he knows it and builds on it. If he played for Chelsea or Man Utd he would be classed as one of the best defenders in the world. Quick, good header, expertly placed and postioned and leads by example. Top, top quality player - simple as.

singapore spur
17th October 2006, 06:08 AM
yeah agree , paul mgrath a great comparison , looks calm and confident in all that he does , and this rubs off on the players around him .

as someone said terry puts himself in difficult positions , and to be fair does well to get out of them (mostly ) maybe this is why he has a higher profile than sir ledley who does his job quietly and well

the fact of making terry captin of england has hampered englands cause as much as dropping beckham , he seemingly cant be dropped now .

as for ferdinand never thought him as good as he obviously thinks himself , but that may be down to me just taking a dislike to the overpaid , over hyped , underperforming tosser that he comes across as .

best central defensive pairing in england , king and dawson , would be hard to disagree with , cant think of collectively two better . in fact along with robbo, chimba , and benny i think we have the best defence in the country and one that should be absoulteluy awesome come next season , after a year of bedding in together . something that spurs can build on over the next 4-5 years .

Danishspurs
17th October 2006, 07:44 AM
I think that Ledders is the most talented CB i've seen for a long time. He's got everything. He's a good header of the ball, physical strong, good on the ball and extremely pacy. The only thing I can think of that he lacks a bit is agression. And that what Terry got loads of.

That why they are the perfect central defence together. I've allways said that and I think there's no doubt that we those to in the heart of defences England could do well.

DonJolSpurano
17th October 2006, 08:09 AM
someones already said this and i agree. if king where at a bigger side like chelsea or man utd then king would be regarded one of the best defenders in europe. i can see him playing for another 10 or so years at this level and if things never quite pan out for spurs with king as captain, id love to see him somewhere abroad winning some of footballs most prestigious awards. he deserves to win at the highest level. like maldini.

it made me laugh when carragher was voted one of europes best players on the back of liverpools CL run. carragher is not even half the defender/player king is.

if spurs do well over the next few seasons and king can get some vital euro experience then we could be very lucky to see one of the greatest spurs legends ever.

he's true class. great positionally, very fast, excellent tackler, strong header and an exceptional passer of a football. he's also a true leader and leads by real example, setting out a stall for all players to aspire to and be inspired by. its no coincidence that spurs look a different side when he's not playing.

one thing worries me though, these injury problems he's having. im hoping its only a temporary thing and he can shake them off and remain a permanent fixture in the spurs defence.

mjbmedia
17th October 2006, 08:20 AM
yep agree, great comparison Choda, Paul McGrath , unsung legend definitley.

things is both Dawson and King are gonna understandably bugger off when their contracts expire unless we give them a reason to stay (CL football at worst)

hastingsyid
17th October 2006, 09:52 AM
Must admit i do think terry is a strong cb but our king is in a different league,he has more pace,more skill,more confident and most top strikers agree king is the hardest defender to play against...but most importantly hes a yid

suBerb
17th October 2006, 10:31 AM
I think that Ledders is the most talented CB i've seen for a long time. He's got everything. He's a good header of the ball, physical strong, good on the ball and extremely pacy. The only thing I can think of that he lacks a bit is agression. And that what Terry got loads of.


Exactly! King should be more aggressive. For one thing, he will make the strikers' life more difficult. For another, the true leader is always aggressive. This is why Terry, and not Gerrard or Lampard, is the current captain of England. Aggressivity is a great virtue in todays football.

spurs61
17th October 2006, 10:42 AM
I don't think there's anything to debate; Henry was asked earlier this season who was the best defender he had played against. Henry categorically stated that King was the best by some way. When asked to explain his view Henry said that whilst other defenders kicked lumps out of him and pulled his shirt, Ledley quietly went about taking the ball. Henry then went on to say that Kings' challenges are so clean that most of the time he doesn't realise that he's lost the ball for one or two paces.

jrio
17th October 2006, 06:02 PM
Yes, that's the first thought that sprung to mind and it was very generous of Henry to say that, but also undoubtedly completely accurate. King is not an aggressive player and it would be wrong to try to induce that quality in him, as futile as getting Davids to lose his aggression.

It seems a complete injustice that lesser players like Ferdinand, a truly reprehensible character and an insult to Bobby Moore that he was ever compared to him, and Terry, with his macho bullshit to get new players to sing a song in the dressing room, earn twice what he does. He's a real credit to Spurs, in the mould of Steve Perryman, and I can say it's a true privilege to be able to watch him at the lane. He's far more important to us than Sol ever was and his departure would have damaged the club to a far greater extent than that of Carrick. Choda's Paul McGrath comparison is an excellent one and brings to mind the tabloid story of Venables seeking to sign him and Butcher at the start of the 88-89 season. As a captain he really does lead by example, and our players would quickly lose respect if he started mouthing off and adopting a different approach. I don't believe in heroes but he is one I would gladly identify as such.