Increase Capacity or New Ground?

[jrio]

I've just been reading that Spurs are keen on pursuing the option of being resident in the Olympic Stadium with a capacity of 60,000, and are also investigating buying Wembley(!). I'd definitely be against basing ourselves at Wembley and had thought we'd ruled out the Olympic Stadium. When you look at the potential season ticket sales this season(43,000) that is the sort of size we need to be looking at. The maximum we can raise WHL to is around 48,000 - even with any minor level of success most games would still sell out quickly. I can't see Spurs having anything like the funds available to build a new ground themselves - Arsenal have struggled to manage it even with their stellar success under Wenger and continuous CL qualification.

It would be a real wrench to leave WHL but there are no signs of infrastructure improvements in the local area and to get tickets for any big games requires immediate booking to have any chance. My gut preference has always been to stay at WHL but it looks like the club has made the Olympic Stadium the first choice, which is probably realistic if we want to have the financial muscle to compete with ManU and Chelsea.

[singapore spur]

its a sad but inevitable fate , leaving white hart lane , thats if we want to really progress into one of the top teams in europe , we will be left behind unless we increase our capacity.

[mjbmedia]

if spurs are clever they can have a hand in selling the apartments that will no doubt be built on WHL to some spurs fanatics who im sure would willingly pay over the odds to live on such hallowed ground = more money in the clubs coffers .
the move done Man City no harm at all, in fact their supporters seem to be nearly human now in the posher surroundings , just gotta have the players catch up eh Ben.

[TomMcLaren]

its a sad but inevitable fate , leaving white hart lane , thats if we want to really progress into one of the top teams in europe , we will be left behind unless we increase our capacity.

I have to agree, sadly. I've posted before about the ridiculous infrastructure surrounding the ground - walking from Seven Sisters to WHL? F*cking joke. Unless someone builds a branch of the victoria line to the stadium, we need to move. Much as I hate the scum, I have to admire the guys who decided to put Highbury where it is, as well as the opportunism of moving to the new place.

I'm not overally keen on Wembley as our new base, as I don't think we'd sell out enough games. Olympic stadium? Maybe - but do we want to play at a ground with a running track round it? I think the best option is to try and get some land near Tottenham Hale. We'd have two tube stations, a train connection to Liverpool Street, and a short walk to Seven Sisters. Not sure if there is any ground available (except maybe the Lea Valley???), but it works for me!

[Spur]

The club have earmarked a bit of land but I can't remember where it was. It was next to one of those little bridges and some water if that helps, but it was massive and had a net up around some trees on the outer edges.

I don't want a running track in my stadium, and I agree about Wembley - afterall it has red seats at the moment!!!

[choda]

Is the olympic stadium going to be in north london?

Surely we can't be moving from home.

[spurs61]

Is the olympic stadium going to be in north london?

Surely we can't be moving from home.

This is my issue with any potential move as well. We're a North London club and as such the majority of our support hails from those areas. It's enough of a pain in the arse to get to WHL from NW London, I'd hate to think what the journey would be like to East London.

[choda]

I'm totally against that so. We're a north london club, I don't want to become rivals with west ham, we hate arsenal, I don't want them to ever forget us for a second.

I'm a real stickler for the whole north london thing. What the hell would happen to the derby and the rivalry?

And we're just a north london club anyway not eastenders. That's hammer domain. We'd feel like illegal aliens, that the very core of our club was messed up. We'd never recover.

[Spur]

It would also put us in the same boat as the scum, they moved to be near us and we didn't like it.

[Aussiespur]

I for one am very tired of this issue. Not at Spurs fans for bringing it up but more that the club either aren't doing anything about it or are but are keeping the fans completely in the dark.

This has been going on for at least 5 years, when will something actually happen ? How hard can it be FFS ?

[Spur]

This has been going on for at least 5 years, when will something actually happen ? How hard can it be FFS ?

I can see why. It's all politics and little to do with sport, and we all know how politicians can be..

[mjbmedia]

bit late now, but we should have built a new stadium on our old Mill Hill training complex, that was plenty big enough tho to be fair we werent always selling out the old stadium then but Uncle Irving never did look too far ahead .

tho the olympic stadium wont be in our manor it will let us make money out of season on the other sports that will be able to be competed there , and as i said before if spurs are smart they can make some cash on the apartments too , plus arranging travel from WHL area to the new place at a fee, ££££

[spurs61]

bit late now, but we should have built a new stadium on our old Mill Hill training complex, that was plenty big enough tho to be fair we werent always selling out the old stadium then but Uncle Irving never did look too far ahead.

I wish you hadn't remined me of that, I live in Mill Hill!

[TomMcLaren]

tho the olympic stadium wont be in our manor it will let us make money out of season on the other sports that will be able to be competed ther

Good plan, but only if we buy it, which might be a bit expensive

[mjbmedia]

im sure we may be able to come to some sort of agreement cos im sure the authorities wont want it once the olympics has finished , mind that is 6 years away and we may be CL material or relegated by then

[jrio]

West Ham may have an interest but one major problem will be that Livingstone's preference is for it to be converted into a 20,000 seater athletics stadium. We have to face the fact of financing a stadium from scratch which I think is well beyond our financial capabilities.

[TomMcLaren]

West Ham may have an interest but one major problem will be that Livingstone's preference is for it to be converted into a 20,000 seater athletics stadium. We have to face the fact of financing a stadium from scratch which I think is well beyond our financial capabilities.

I think we can do it, I reckon Levy and co have the clout and are wiley enough to put a deal together. However, the real issue is where would it be? Anyone know what happened to Pickets Lock?

[Spur]

It will never stay a athletics stadium - they don't make enough money.

[RuFuS]

We're a north london.

you missed out 'ONLY' ;)

[MarlowSpurs]

It could be worse we could move to Milton Keynes ala Wimbledon

[SCIFIN17YID]

I say move to damn the Tottenham Marshes !. stay in Tottenham. what the heck would be called if we moved out ? Hotspur pfffffffffft.

[Spur]

what the heck would be called if we moved out ? Hotspur pfffffffffft.

That is the one. The Hotspur Pffffffffft. What a name for a stadium.

[RuFuS]

I Know this will rub alot of people up the wrong way :eek: but we should have explored fully the idea of sharing with the scum. A nuetral site neither in tottenham or goonsville.Financialy it would have made sense.
Derby day would've been like no other in the country with 30,000 season ticket holders in each half of the stadium screaming at eachother for 90 mins.

[choda]

I Know this will rub alot of people up the wrong way :eek: but we should explored fully the idea of sharing with the scum. A nuetral site neither in tottenham or goonsville.Financialy it would have made sense.
Derby day would've been like no other in the country with 30,000 season ticket holders in each half of the stadium screaming at eachother for 90 mins.

Do you mean us moving into arsebumming grove? They are not going to move again, why would they?

And I must say that is a thought which would take a lot of puking before I could even consider it.

[Spur]

Wouldn't work - what colour would the seats be?

[sundancer]

As I've posted several times before the only way we are ever going to compete with Man-utd, L'pool etc in the long term, we have to increase our capacity. Wembley is no good we would struggle to fill it on a regular basis, we should be looking at 55;000 at best. I,ve been going to the Lane for 40 odd years but we have too increase or move.

[jrio]

I Know this will rub alot of people up the wrong way :eek: but we should explored fully the idea of sharing with the scum. A nuetral site neither in tottenham or goonsville.Financialy it would have made sense.

Too difficult to find such a site and rather academic now.

Derby day would've been like no other in the country with 30,000 season ticket holders in each half of the stadium screaming at eachother for 90 mins.

Clubs in shared stadiums don't split the tickets equally between the 2 clubs for their derby games - for the 2 fixtures, each gets the home allocation for their fixtured home game, so it would still be 57k v 3k.

[mjbmedia]

Clubs in shared stadiums don't split the tickets equally between the 2 clubs for their derby games - for the 2 fixtures, each gets the home allocation for their fixtured home game, so it would still be 57k v 3k.
sorry, but since when have the scum taken 3000 ugly, retarded, neathandaeral, braindead, shitheads to an away game???;)

[MarlowSpurs]

sorry, but since when have the scum taken 3000 ugly, retarded, neathandaeral, braindead, shitheads to an away game???;)

I doubt they even know what an away game is.

[BgSpur]

if spurs are clever they can have a hand in selling the apartments that will no doubt be built on WHL to some spurs fanatics who im sure would willingly pay over the odds to live on such hallowed ground = more money in the clubs coffers .
the move done Man City no harm at all, in fact their supporters seem to be nearly human now in the posher surroundings , just gotta have the players catch up eh Ben.

interesting idea!