Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa

[TURKISH]

Talk about the game before, during and after.

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[Gino Ginelli]

I've gone draw, because I've learnt to be pessimistic this season.

But if we start with the same lineup as Wednesday and combine the attitude of VDV with the teamwork of the second half, we should be doing well.

[Paddy]

becoming a little pessemistc myself, though still think VDV and Bale will cut them open.

Just had a look at Lawro's predictions lol he got 9 out of 10 wrong last week with no perfect scores! the only result he got right was the pikeys! though based on that if he can atleast get the Spurs results right, he has us down for a 2-0 win tomorrow! I will go for 2-1 win.

C.O.Y.S :fight:

[Gino Ginelli]

becoming a little pessemistc myself, though still think VDV and Bale will cut them open.

Just had a look at Lawro's predictions lol he got 9 out of 10 wrong last week with no perfect scores! the only result he got right was the pikeys! though based on that if he can atleast get the Spurs results right, he has us down for a 2-0 win tomorrow! I will go for 2-1 win.

C.O.Y.S :fight:

That's us stuffed then! Lawro lost his powers of prediction when the 'tash went.

[Antilokhos]

I'm a glutton for punishment and unrealistic expectations, I'll take the win.

[earl warwick]

A good win midweek should translate to a strong performance tomorrow. Unlike previous post-CL weeks, the opposition will be a reasonably strong force, and that should make a difference. 2-1.

[KevSpur]

If Crouch plays, 0-0, at best.
Pav or Keane play more than Crouch, Spurs win.

[matthius23]

Would love a win as I'M GETTING MARRIED tomorrow, so gonna miss the game.

Please Spurs... for me? :santaclaus:

[berbzy 'G']

Need to seriously start picking up some winning streaks in the league after losing to those peasents last weekend.

2-0 Tottenham (Crouch and Lennon to score)

[Antilokhos]

Need to seriously start picking up some winning streaks in the league after losing to those peasents last weekend.

2-0 Tottenham (Crouch and Lennon to score)
No way this team keeps a clean sheet. I'm guessing we play a 442.

Gomes

Hutton
King
Bassong
BAE

VDV
Huddlestone
Modric
Bale

Pav
Crouch

I'd like to see Jenas in there, he's done well and I'm sure he'll make an appearance at some point. Not sure on King's fitness level, otherwise we'd have to put Corluka at CB, SCARY!

[earl warwick]

Gomes; Hutton, Bassong, Huddlestone, Assou-Ekotto; van der Vaart, Jenas, Modric, Bale; Crouch, Pav.

Subs: Cudicini, Corluka, Kranjcar, Lennon, Palacios, Sandro, Keane.

Hudd at CB and Jenas in the centre with Modric. Crouch and Pav up front in a 4-4-2. Another very attacking side, but I can't help feeling either Palacios or Sandro would have been a better option than JJ.

[Shuggie13]

Gomes; Hutton, Bassong, Huddlestone, Assou-Ekotto; van der Vaart, Jenas, Modric, Bale; Crouch, Pav.

Subs: Cudicini, Corluka, Kranjcar, Lennon, Palacios, Sandro, Keane.

Hudd at CB and Jenas in the centre with Modric. Crouch and Pav up front in a 4-4-2. Another very attacking side, but I can't help feeling either Palacios or Sandro would have been a better option than JJ.

:dito:

A bit of protection in front of Hudd/Bassong will be needed and keeping Young quite as the second striker. We will also definetely need to stem the flow to their wings with Albrighton and Downing who are both playing decent football at the moment. We need a Jenas game that lots here seem to see here, tireless work-rate breaking up play, pass it quickly to Modric and then let the real talented players take over.

[Antilokhos]

Not sure we'd really want Palacios there. With how poorly he's been playing and with a makeshift defense we don't need to give away a lot of free kicks. Sandro would not have been a bad choice, but I think Jenas' disciplined play is going to be quite useful.

[Antilokhos]

FYI, looking like Veetle will have a beautiful stream at:
http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ca592925e748

[TURKISH]

Not sure how Palacios protects us with his dismal passing and form. You don't need tacklers if your gonna pass the ball well.

[Shuggie13]

excellent stream, thanks.

[Antilokhos]

Not been the best of starts.

[TURKISH]

Bassong you ****. Here we go again, this reminds me of Jol.

[denis-cro]

Brilliant BASSONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant ... well done you ****ing **** !!!!!!!!!!

[Antilokhos]

Not sure why he just didn't clear it, also it looked like Huddlestone was just watching it all unfold instead of positioning himself in a place where he could stop the cross.

[Shelfside]

Bassong should die of shame with immediate effect.No excuses for that amateuirsh defending.

[mjbmedia]

Hudd at CB see what I mean where was he, ball watching hes shit there

[mjbmedia]

Bassong should die of shame with immediate effect.No excuses for that amateuirsh defending.
yeh but where was the cover?

[Legend10!]

Brilliant BASSONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant ... well done you ****ing **** !!!!!!!!!!

what happened ive just started to watch and we r already a gola behind!!!:angry:

[Antilokhos]

The announcer just summed up our season, an opportunity wasted by Spurs.

[Shelfside]

Hutton should have at least made the goalkeeper save that FFS.

[nuttyhotspurs]

bassong skinned by heskey, oh the shame. what the fvck was huddlestone doing stood motionless did he not realise a cross was coming in? ffs oh yea and great free kick from vdv and good shot from hutton-side netting

great start lads!! brilliant

[nuttyhotspurs]

jesvs fvckin christ crouch and pavs hold up play is just dogshit. i swear defoe can hold it up better

[Antilokhos]

jesvs fvckin christ crouch and pavs hold up play is just dogshit
The whole team is dogshit today.

[TURKISH]

VDV Diving.:001_rolleyes:

I downloaded veetle and the game won't load up, other streams are shite. Can't wait to get my laptop fixed so I can watch the games on sopcast.

[Antilokhos]

VDV Diving.:001_rolleyes:

I downloaded veetle and the game won't load up, other streams are shite. Can't wait to get my laptop fixed so I can watch the games on sopcast.
The Veetle stream was shut down around the 20 minute mark, watching Sopcast now but it sucks in comparison.

[GPK]

Slippery surface or not, there is no excuse for some of the late challenges coming in from villa. They should of had 2 or 3 yellows by now!

[nuttyhotspurs]

VDV Diving.:001_rolleyes:

I downloaded veetle and the game won't load up, other streams are shite. Can't wait to get my laptop fixed so I can watch the games on sopcast.

a blessing in disguise mate. try and forget about the game and go enjoy ya weekend :001_rolleyes:

[TURKISH]

The Veetle stream was shut down around the 20 minute mark, watching Sopcast now but it sucks in comparison.

Sopcast is beautiful for me, I'm watching games on crap streams now. It keeps stopping every 10 seconds.

[Antilokhos]

Sopcast is beautiful for me, I'm watching games on crap streams now. It keeps stopping every 10 seconds.
It usually is for me as well, this week I can't find a good SopCast stream.

And why do none of our attackers make runs to the far post?

[denis-cro]

again we will suffer because of wasted chances... :angry:

[mjbmedia]

hey another Saturday afternoon , another pathetic shite display.
Can we ask Sky to show all our games and play every game on a Sunday

[denis-cro]

Jenas and Modrić are losing to much balls in the middle witch opens Villans to counter....

[olly27]

WTF do we have to do to see a good performance in the League...fed up with this - its so predictable.

[TURKISH]

VDV GET IN THERE!!!!!!!! The man is a goal machine!! Well done Pav and Crouchy!!!

I want a better performance second half, we can beat these pretenders!!!

[denis-cro]

CMON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mjbmedia]

VDV Back of Net
see that old lady celebrating with him bless her

[GPK]

GET IN!

Van Man has only started to make an impact on the game in the last 5 minutes and is ultimately rewarded.

[Antilokhos]

Well, that goal was due, but Villa is probably due another goal or two from that half too. It seems odd that VDV is a much better header of the ball than our strikers (I'm looking at Pav's dismal effort from the same situation) and, even though VDV is the new guy, he seems by far to be the most fired up. I love his spirit.

[nuttyhotspurs]

are my eyes deceiving me or did pav and crouch just combine together for a goal? finally vdv hes had enough chances:tongue:

[Shuggie13]

who has a relatively good stream? veetle and atdhe both died on me.

[Gazza]

It usually is for me as well, this week I can't find a good SopCast stream.


The FSC Stream (Sopcast/myp2p.eu) works great!

VDV just a great signing. What a player. Descent cross from Pav aswell.

[nuttyhotspurs]

who has a relatively good stream? veetle and atdhe both died on me.

google 'myp2p'. the YES stream is good every weekend

[Antilokhos]

who has a relatively good stream? veetle and atdhe both died on me.
I had to switch to Sopcast, best channel I've found is #82153

or:

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/82153

Good in the window, looks pretty bad when I try to full screen it.

[TURKISH]

who has a relatively good stream? veetle and atdhe both died on me.

http://entertainmenow.net/channel2.php

Not the best Shuggie pal but it will do.

[Legend10!]

we gotta go on and win this now, its ours for the taking, but we gotta watch the counter attacking, stick jenas on young for the rest of the game to stop him making the runs,jenas should have the pace to keep up with him!

[Shuggie13]

thanks chaps. Having problems opening sopcast in firefox, any tips?

[Shuggie13]

we gotta go on and win this now, its ours for the taking, but we gotta watch the counter attacking, stick jenas on young for the rest of the game to stop him making the runs,jenas should have the pace to keep up with him!

Agreed, that is exactly what I said before kick-off, that Jenas needs to stick to Young.

[nuttyhotspurs]

thanks chaps. Having problems opening sopcast in firefox, any tips?

have u downloaded sopcast first?

[TURKISH]

From what I saw from a very bad stream, our biggest problem is ourselfs. Our passing and hold up play needs to be better, otherwise Villa will counter and look dangerous.

Get Bale in the game and make sure we get Albrington going the other way.

Apart from a silly mistake from Bassong (you should never lose the ball there as a defender) we haven't looked that bad.

COYS!!

[Antilokhos]

So we switch to a 4-5-1 now, and Lennon should add some much needed width on that side and hopefully VDV can play as a CF.

[denis-cro]

lennon in, Pav off ?? so, we went to 4-5-1 ????

[Gazza]

thanks chaps. Having problems opening sopcast in firefox, any tips?

Download Sopcast
Then go myp2p.eu, click on play ->open with sopcast

[TURKISH]

How did you miss that you ****ing ****, ****ing bastard, your shit and a DISGRACE TO THIS CLUB!!!!!!!

[denis-cro]

Bassong is pure disgrace to this club... absolutely shithead defender....

[TURKISH]

Exciting game.

[Antilokhos]

Jenas has been playing quite well, and VDV looks pretty fired up. I am fairly optimistic at this point.

[TURKISH]

Modric just makes things so easy. Richard Dunne is class.

[TURKISH]

Kin hell that was close.

[Antilokhos]

Apparently Lennon still has not found his form.

[denis-cro]

lennon introducing into the game was a big mistake.... hes absolutely out of form......

[TURKISH]

Crouch you ****, YOUR A ****ING **** **** DISGRACE TO THIS CLUB!!

[denis-cro]

CANT afford to waste such a chance Rodney ??!!!!!

[mjbmedia]

have we forgotten how to control and win a league game

saw this coming after Stoke and its still with us unfortunately , granted Villa are the 'best' team we've played since City but even so COYS

[Shuggie13]

The man is already a legend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Legend10!]

They are playing better than us now i can see them getting the winner much more than us!!


as im writing this the vaart man scores again

GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!

[TURKISH]

DUTCH MASTERCLASS!!!! Crouchy you beauty, great knock down and VDV as usual!!!!!!!!

[Shelfside]

VDV looks to be the bargain of a lifetime.

[Antilokhos]

Should be his Hat trick, but still fantastic!

[denis-cro]

CMON !!!!!!!!!!!!

[GPK]

COME ON!

What the hell were Real thinking when they let him go? Especially for only £8M
Thanks Jose!

[TURKISH]

Oh dear god no!!!!!! Palacios is coming on.:angry:

[denis-cro]

I feel sorry for Kranjcar.... Hes top class lad and great footballer, but at this point with RVDV playing like he plays theres no place for him ....:glare:

[Antilokhos]

What an odd move. Modric has done well, Palacios is out of form, if anything give Sandro a run. With the way he tackled v Arsenal that would be a much better move.

[Antilokhos]

I feel sorry for Kranjcar.... Hes top class lad and great footballer, but at this point with RVDV playing like he plays theres no place for him ....:glare:
I feel the same way, he's a brilliant player and deserves more of a run than he gets with us. Hopefully his fitness problems are behind him and we can get him games. There's just no place to play him though, VDV and Modric are just better, and he doesn't bring what Bale does.

[TURKISH]

What an odd move. Modric has done well, Palacios is out of form, if anything give Sandro a run. With the way he tackled v Arsenal that would be a much better move.

Its bite your nails time.

[Legend10!]

just hold on now it cant be that hard! can It!!!

[mjbmedia]

Modric looked knackered hence going off IMO.
Is Sandro on the bench?
Well done Lennon on the goal too as of course Crouch and VDV

[denis-cro]

Rodneys wasting to much chances.... Hope it wont cost us .....

[TURKISH]

The bastard turned the stream over and started watching some dutch football, **** is a DISGRACE TO HIS MOTHER !!!

[Antilokhos]

Sandro is on the bench.

[TURKISH]

Whats happening? How long left?

[denis-cro]

we have one sub option left... pls Harry use it just to waste some time...

[Antilokhos]

Sandro just came on for VDV, 3 minutes of stoppage time left.

[mjbmedia]

good lord what just happened two wins in a week against good teams

The new shirts doing its job

Now a break, hopefully no injuries , then onwards and upwards.

[Shuggie13]

Fantastic result and 90 points for me on I Know The Score!

[TURKISH]

Get in there!!!! HAVE SOME OF THAT!!!!!! LETS HAVE IT PET!!!!!

[Shelfside]

Very pleased with the three points but I am extremely pissed off with the fact that we always play shite in the first half and go a goal down or allow ourselves to be pegged back and always make it an uphill struggle for ourselves in the second half.
We may not have had the luck as far as injuries are concerned but we sure have had the luck in terms of most of our results this season.

[Shuggie13]

Very pleased with the three points but I am extremely pissed off with the fact that we always play shite in the first half and go a goal down and always make it an uphill struggle for ourselves.
We may not have had the luck as far as injuries are concerned but we sure have had the luck in terms of most of our results this season.


We seem to have gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. Over recent years (before last season) we have seemed to always start really well and then fall to pieces as the games went on. Didn't we have a bout 5 or 6 results a few seasons back that saw last minute equalizers or winners for the opposition?

[peterc]

Important to win these three points. I thought we played much better in the second half and rtwo well taken goals by Rafael Van Der Vaart. COYS. THudds played quite well in CB position, much better than Charlie would have ever done.

[Shelfside]

We seem to have gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. Over recent years (before last season) we have seemed to always start really well and then fall to pieces as the games went on. Didn't we have a bout 5 or 6 results a few seasons back that saw last minute equalizers or winners for the opposition?

Yes we did go through a mad spell of last minute catastrophies.
But regarding our current situation and injuries notwithstanding,Harry seems to be badly mis-judging tactics and selections.The team will almost pick itself once everyone is fit but this is still the time for Harry to prove how good he really is.So far he has mostly been able to rectify the situation in the second half but our luck will run out sooner rather than later.

[Legend10!]

thudd did play well, and palacios didnt do anything wrong when he came on for a change! now with a bit of a break, we can get king, kaboul and gallas fit again.

Cant wait for defoe to come back, think bale, vdv, modders, lennon and defoe ripping up defences.

good three pionts today lets hope it continues!

[Antilokhos]

An important three points for us. I don't know if Bassong misses Dawson or what, but he has been awfully poor this season. Hopefully he, Palacios, and Lennon can all find their form soon and give us some much needed depth. I think there is hope for Lennon, after a rough start he looked a LOT better today. Still not the player of old, but much closer than he has been.

I was very impressed by Jenas today, he did everything that we could have asked. I've always liked him and am glad to see him playing well. He may not be the ferocious tackler that Palacios is, but he's been fantastic overall lately. If he could only start getting shots on target when he rushes into the box we'll be in business.

Modric and Bale were splendid as always. I think Bale drifted out of the game for a few stretches, but when we got him the ball he once again showed how dangerous he is. Modric combined well with everybody and definitely showed his class.

Our strikers were even pretty decent today. They missed some easy chances, but Crouch was instrumental in both goals and Pav's cross for the second was great. Both should shadow around VDV to learn how to properly score with their head.

And this was another game where Rafael Van der Vaart showed that he is a class above the rest of the squad. He plays with the most passion and the most skill, and he seems to be starting to rub off on the other guys. He's still settling in and I believe he leads us in goals in the league already. As the team gels around him I think we'll improve massively.

[malc123]

Very good result. Despite going behind and having to hang on at the end, I actually felt our play was more positive and unlike some of the recent matches, I had belief they would actually score. Looks like we are going to have to play 4411 all the time now. Even Lennon showed some sign of getting back to form and Palacious did not do anything stupid and passed to our team. I saw Harry giving Wilson some last minute instructions. ( Do not get booked, give away any stupid free kicks or penalties and try and pass it to one of our players when you get the ball) Lets hope we have turned the corner in the League.

[olly27]

Was calling for Hudd over Corluka for weeks when Ledley isn't availabile.

[TURKISH]

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[heartofspurs]

Now it's over, that was a truly great result for us. Aston villa are no slouches are will trouble some top teams this season. Spurs are unpredictable but there is some quality football being played. They are starting to click and once they do, they are going to hammer someone good and proper. I know, I know there are questions about tactics, players etc but VDV is an amazing find, he is the best player I've seen in a spurs' shirt for some time and he brings a never say die attitude that lifts the place. Great game, proper crowd and it rained! That's what football is about!

[KevSpur]

A really good win against a tough team.
Well done lads.
COYS

[berbzy 'G']

:001_rolleyes:

[mjbmedia]

lets not go OTT about Hudd, he was at fault for the goal for not covering Bassong or the cross at all instead standing still and doing nothing.
In this game Villa attacked down the flanks, when teams come through the middle , Hudd suffers at CB

[deadleyledley]

didnt have time to make a pre mathc prediciton.

post match analysis was that the defending in the first half wasnt great, but not suprised as it was slightly make-shift.

did well to go in at HT 1-1. second half display was much better with vdv in the middle and lennon out wide.

thought the second goal was tremedous. the finesse of vdv's dummy was in a different class.

if cheatski beat scum then we are back on level points and with the same number of games.

COYS!!!!!!!!!!!

[olly27]

lets not go OTT about Hudd, he was at fault for the goal for not covering Bassong or the cross at all instead standing still and doing nothing.
In this game Villa attacked down the flanks, when teams come through the middle , Hudd suffers at CB

woah, woah...Bassong was at fault and it was embarrassing the way he got so easily out muscled...yes he should of provided cover but that justs wrong.....nobody in the ground expected that to happen, Bassong losing out like that.

Hudd is better at CB than Corluka for me and that was borne out yesterday. Of course he's much better in midfield though.

[Antilokhos]

Bassong was definitely at fault, but Hudd gets an assist. He should have definitely at least moved to position himself between Heskey and the front of goal. And I'm talking after Heskey had already taken the ball, it seemed Hudd was still just ball watching as Heskey came in down the line.

[matthius23]

Great turnaround... shame about conceding another cheap goal.

RVDV was a late entry into my wedding speech last night... as thanks for not letting Spurs ruin my big day :santaclaus:

[Neil_Vaughan]

VDV is an absolute class act!

[mjbmedia]

woah, woah...Bassong was at fault and it was embarrassing the way he got so easily out muscled...yes he should of provided cover but that justs wrong.....nobody in the ground expected that to happen, Bassong losing out like that.

Hudd is better at CB than Corluka for me and that was borne out yesterday. Of course he's much better in midfield though.
did you see how many times Dunne was in the right place at the right time when the unexpected happend at the other end?
Granted he is a nailed on CB and OK maybe Hudd V Corluka is too close to call
Hudd could have and should have been much better positioned to cut the cross out, he was only a step to the left away but he never even tried to take that step and the ball rolled passed him, as soon as Heskey had gone towards the byline, Hudd should automatically of moved over to close the angle, the ball likely would not then have got passed him.
Yes Bassong should have been better in the first place and yes HUdd done very well in other scenarios so maybe Im focusing on this one a bit too much, but as it cost us a goal and at the time that was a big issue , he can certainly learn from it.

[TURKISH]

If Crouch plays, 0-0, at best.
Pav or Keane play more than Crouch, Spurs win.

:001_rolleyes:

[olly27]

did you see how many times Dunne was in the right place at the right time when the unexpected happend at the other end?
Granted he is a nailed on CB and OK maybe Hudd V Corluka is too close to call
Hudd could have and should have been much better positioned to cut the cross out, he was only a step to the left away but he never even tried to take that step and the ball rolled passed him, as soon as Heskey had gone towards the byline, Hudd should automatically of moved over to close the angle, the ball likely would not then have got passed him.
Yes Bassong should have been better in the first place and yes HUdd done very well in other scenarios so maybe Im focusing on this one a bit too much, but as it cost us a goal and at the time that was a big issue , he can certainly learn from it.

Oh yeah he can learn from it all right...but Hudd aint a CB and he struggled in the air against Heskey and Carew when he came on. My point is Charlie seems to be even worse.

[irishspur]

Saw some of you had problems gettin streams, i use www.liveonlinefooty.com
Its 3 or 4 quid a month but well worth it. Great quality and english commentary. They show all the spurs games including champions league.

[Gino Ginelli]

Didn't see the game or the higlights because I was too busy getting ruined in Nottingham this weekend. Would suggestions of VDV becoming a permanent forward be accepted?

[olly27]

Didn't see the game or the higlights because I was too busy getting ruined in Nottingham this weekend. Would suggestions of VDV becoming a permanent forward be accepted?

Yes, think of it as 4-4-1-1....

[Gino Ginelli]

One article I read today likened Rafael to the lovechild of Glenn Hoddle and Ossie Ardiles. Fair assessment?

[TURKISH]

VDV reminds me when Robbie Keane was bang in form and would play behind Berbatov. He would pop up everywhere, chase everything and score crackers.

The bloke has a great scoring record, he can play upfront for sure.

[Gino Ginelli]

VDV reminds me when Robbie Keane, when he was bang in form and would play behind Berbatov. He would pop up everywhere, chase everything and score crackers.

The bloke has a great scoring record, he can play upfront for sure.

I had that thinking myself.

[TURKISH]

I had that thinking myself.

And the best thing about VDV is he doesn't come with a annoying dutch stalker called Van Chodawinkle.

[olly27]

VDV reminds me when Robbie Keane was bang in form and would play behind Berbatov. He would pop up everywhere, chase everything and score crackers.

The bloke has a great scoring record, he can play upfront for sure.

Me too, but to be honest he's class above Keane - but he's class above most so thats no insult.

Dare I say it...he's similar to an inform Rooney as well. Well I mean they have similar attributes regarding work rate, vision, awareness and overall skill and ability.