keane as sunderland manager ?

[singapore spur]

reports saying he is going to be new sunderland manager

can only seeing that ending in tears , despite being a great footballer and having played under arguably the best two domestic mangers of the last 30 years , he like many top players are brought in to give a club a bit of kudos and attract top quality players in the future .

this effect , will be unfortunatly for sunderland, negated by the fact that noone wants to play and live up there and the fact that his "im great , everyone else is a cnut " attitude makes him a thouroghly nasty human being .

he may have had respect on the field with but cant see many players wanting to play for him.

[whistler9027]

It will be interesting to see what happens..abaut no doubt he will give it 100%...I would suggest many of the problems sunderland have faced are down to financial inability to strengthen their squad...and it will be important Keane has some money to strenghten..

There will always be pressure on big names who go into management and as we know being a top player doesnt guarantee the transition.He has of course worked with Alex Ferguson and would imagine learnt a hell of a lot..I think the main problem he will have is perhaps his own frustration at working with players who arnt up to his ability/standards etc...i think thats y a lot of top players stuggle in management at first.

its a tough first job..but Sunderland need a big name to get the fans focus and take what is seen a positive step,and I think it might have been hard to get an experienced manager in ...as Sunderland is a bit of a poisoned chalice.

I'm not sure he should get a 2 million contract tho..no matter what money they now have available.

[Houdini logic]

When Quinn said he was close to signing a World Class manager, did he actually mean he is close to signing a has-been world class footballer with absolutely no experience in football management?

[choda]

reports saying he is going to be new sunderland manager

can only seeing that ending in tears , despite being a great footballer and having played under arguably the best two domestic mangers of the last 30 years , he like many top players are brought in to give a club a bit of kudos and attract top quality players in the future .

this effect , will be unfortunatly for sunderland, negated by the fact that noone wants to play and live up there and the fact that his "im great , everyone else is a cnut " attitude makes him a thouroghly nasty human being .

he may have had respect on the field with but cant see many players wanting to play for him.

Well as always Roy Keane will divide opinion, but in my eyes he will always be one of my heroes. And I don't know where you get your I'm great everyone else is a **** comment. It couldn't be further from the truth. He was the ultimate team player and the most natural leader I've every seen on a football pitch. A colossus in the game and a true great.

He even sacrificed his own world cup because it was the right thing to do. He is an absolute hero.

Nobody will want to play for him, are you having a laugh? Did you see how many turned up for his testimonial? Did you see the reception he got at Old Trafford? It was extraordinary. If you knew the respect other players have for him you wouldn't have made that remark.

I read in Quinny's autobiography that he and other players used to steel a glance at Roy's face in the tunnel just to get something from it. Players not want to play for Roy Keane? I'd say he's one of the ultimate guys players would want to play for.

When people criticise Davids it angers me, when people criticise Roy Keane I'm positively fuming.:mad:

It all depends on how good a manager he will be, what his knowledge is like etc. I suspect from what I know of him that it is excellent. It would not surprise me at all if he is the next great manager.

I'd say a lot of the stick he gets in England is down to the truly awful press he got in England over the years. I say this influences a lot of the infuriating remarks people say about him and also a lack of understanding of what made him such a great player and such a great man.

If he'd have been English he'd have been made King of England by the press.

[spurs61]

This should keep all footy fans amused for a few weeks. Shall we open a book on how long before Keane;

a. Chins one of his own players for being "a bit of a poof"

b. Slags off Niall Quinn/ the Sunderland fans

c. Walks out citing crap training methods (they're your Roy) and a shity one horse town.

[suBerb]

Well as always Roy Keane will divide opinion, but in my eyes he will always be one of my heroes. He was the ultimate team player and the most natural leader I've every seen on a football pitch. A colossus in the game and a true great.


Ferguson keeps saying Roy had been his best footballer, not Cantona or RVN etc.

huge impact on the pitch, a player who never gave up, a true legend

He was not only the best holding midfielder in his times, he scored also many goals, one season he was even the top goalscorer for manure in the CL.

[DonJolSpurano]

i have nothing but contempt for roy keane. although he was a excellent footballer this was offset by his complete thuggery.

he brought the game into disrepute with his actions way too many times and when the history books are written, there should be a little note to remind fans just what a mindless moron he could be. his revenge tackle on alf inge haaland and then admission that it was deliberate should have seen him kicked out of the game forever.

i hope he now suffers as a team manager.

[hastingsyid]

When Quinn said he was close to signing a World Class manager, did he actually mean he is close to signing a has-been world class footballer with absolutely no experience in football management?
lmfao agree my friend

[Spur]

When Quinn said he was close to signing a World Class manager, did he actually mean he is close to signing a has-been world class footballer with absolutely no experience in football management?

Exactly what I thought too. Bad move for Keane, bad move for Sunderland.

Although now i've said that i'm having money on them winning the Champions League within 5 years.

[Houdini logic]

Yeah, I mean... When someone says World Class manager you think;
Gus Hiddink
Marcelo Lippi
Fabio Capello
Sven Goran Eriksson (haha!)

Roy ****ing Keane!?

Yeah... Good luck in League 1 Sunderland!

[SurreySpur]

I disagree, i think he'll do well. While the bloke isn't to everyones taste, he is driven and wont settle for second best. He's going to have brian kidd as his number two, so he'll have real experience behind him. I can see them rebuilding this year and getting promoted next year.

[choda]

He could be a total flop as a manager.

I'm not denying that anything can happen when Roy's around and he's truly lost it at times in his career. But even that is part of why I love him.

He's not a thug he's just misunderstood. He's just one of the hardest most driven ****ers you'll ever meet, and the greatest holding midfielder of all time, nobody even comes close. He's a real man, even though he had a temper problem, but how much of that made him such a great player.

In his prime he could control a game with his passing, he could control it with his tackling, he was the greatest leader of men you'd ever see and he'd even get you a goal if you really needed one. An extraordinary footballer.

On route to wc2002 he was joint top scorer for us despite being the defensive midfielder, his performances against Portugal and Holland will never be forgotten. He did absolutley everything. It was awe inspiring, and he made himself into that footballer through a lot of initially unrecognised talent, determination and will power.

Rooney's very similar, but I don't see a tenth of the criticism and thug remarks leveled at him. He has been pinned up as the golden boy and Keane would have gotten that too had he been English. And by the way I personally think Rooney is special character aswell even though he has some human flaws (don't we all) and will become an all time great.

Keane was also successful at sorting out a lot of his anger issues, his disciplinery record continually improved over the years.

And very interestingly he said in his book that he was ashamed of the time he threw the ball at Shearer, he said he nearly quit football over that. He had a strong sense of manly code.

Roy Keane's a man's man, and a truly great footballer, even if he did have anger management issues. But I wouldn't expect everyone to understand what he was, particularly the way he is portrayed by the English media.

Some people around here seem to be afraid of a few tackles. Anyone who ever commits a bad tackle is a 'thug and should be banned for life'. There wouldn't have been many players in the seventies then.

There is quite a bit of knee jerkery on this forum. Like witness after Bolton and then after Sheff Utd. It was like two different worlds.

Bad tackles should be severly punished, end of, get on with it, in case you haven't noticed it's a man's game.

[Chewy]

Choda, I 100% agree!

[singapore spur]

Well as always Roy Keane will divide opinion, but in my eyes he will always be one of my heroes. And I don't know where you get your I'm great everyone else is a **** comment. It couldn't be further from the truth. He was the ultimate team player and the most natural leader I've every seen on a football pitch. A colossus in the game and a true great.

He even sacrificed his own world cup because it was the right thing to do. He is an absolute hero.

Nobody will want to play for him, are you having a laugh? Did you see how many turned up for his testimonial? Did you see the reception he got at Old Trafford? It was extraordinary. If you knew the respect other players have for him you wouldn't have made that remark.

I read in Quinny's autobiography that he and other players used to steel a glance at Roy's face in the tunnel just to get something from it. Players not want to play for Roy Keane? I'd say he's one of the ultimate guys players would want to play for.

When people criticise Davids it angers me, when people criticise Roy Keane I'm positively fuming.:mad:

It all depends on how good a manager he will be, what his knowledge is like etc. I suspect from what I know of him that it is excellent. It would not surprise me at all if he is the next great manager.

I'd say a lot of the stick he gets in England is down to the truly awful press he got in England over the years. I say this influences a lot of the infuriating remarks people say about him and also a lack of understanding of what made him such a great player and such a great man.

If he'd have been English he'd have been made King of England by the press.

i agree a world class footballer , the best man utd had in their hey day , massively influential , the best ireland have maybe ever had .

scrificed his own world cup mmmmm i think a sacrifice i would have been to put aside his complaints , play for his country and then after the w.c finished say what he had to say and then walk away from his teammates and country ( but seeing as you are irish , i will bow to your personal feelings and the jibe you must get from fellow irish fans )

as reagrds his testemonial , of course the fans worship him , why wouldnt they, if you had a player putting his heart and soul into a game for you for 10 years or whatever you are gonna love the guy . as regards the fellow pro players as i said im sure most (probably not haarland ) have the greatest respect for him on the pitch , would love playing with him , i just think it will be a different matter playing under him

a great player as i said i agree , a great man ?? not so sure about that , admittedly i dont know him and my thoughts will be greatly led by the media reports of his antics . though in his own words he deliberatly went out to seriously injure haarland and was proud to boast about it in his book so does that make a great man ? i wouldnt have thought so

as regards what you said about the english press of course they would have made him a hero if he had been english but the knives would still be freshly sharpened for when he slipped , as with all national icons .

i do know i would have loved to see him at spurs

[choda]

i agree a world class footballer , the best man utd had in their hey day , massively influential , the best ireland have maybe ever had .

scrificed his own world cup mmmmm i think a sacrifice i would have been to put aside his complaints , play for his country and then after the w.c finished say what he had to say and then walk away from his teammates and country ( but seeing as you are irish , i will bow to your personal feelings and the jibe you must get from fellow irish fans )

as reagrds his testemonial , of course the fans worship him , why wouldnt they, if you had a player putting his heart and soul into a game for you for 10 years or whatever you are gonna love the guy . as regards the fellow pro players as i said im sure most (probably not haarland ) have the greatest respect for him on the pitch , would love playing with him , i just think it will be a different matter playing under him

a great player as i said i agree , a great man ?? not so sure about that , admittedly i dont know him and my thoughts will be greatly led by the media reports of his antics . though in his own words he deliberatly went out to seriously injure haarland and was proud to boast about it in his book so does that make a great man ? i wouldnt have thought so

as regards what you said about the english press of course they would have made him a hero if he had been english but the knives would still be freshly sharpened for when he slipped , as with all national icons .

i do know i would have loved to see him at spurs

Yeah your right about the timing. It was awful, but that's Roy, timing doesn't come into it, when he blows up he blows up.

But he was right about the Irish setup it was a joke, and he was biting his lip for ten years. And the problems stretched back 40 years! Did you know in the sixties and into the seventies a team of selectors used to pick the team!

There had been complaints from the players for years and years and years but as Eamon Dunphy said it was going to take a huge stance from a player of big stature. Our captain or one of our stars had to stop it. Roy had the balls to do it. And with that kind of preparation we didn't have a notion in the world cup anyway.

As regards the opinion in Ireland, at the time when everyone had been looking forward to he world cup it was 50/50 and now it is about 90/10 in Keanos favour. The forty 'swingers' still don't agree with the timing but they knew it had to happen sometime, and they know at the end of the day he was a hero. It was just how it happened that he finally blew up at that time, it all came to a head.

[singapore spur]

just looking through a couple of old threads and well i have been prooved wrong about his impact as manager :o , so far so good for roy keane

[highlander]

im not sure how he'll do in the prem, i think his passion and mentality will get sunderland through the first season but they need a good few years of heavy investment because they really do have a terrible squad, and players like Michael Chopra (£5million) & Dickson Etuhu (£1.5million0 really arent going to help them too much

[canadaspur]

This should keep all footy fans amused for a few weeks. Shall we open a book on how long before Keane;

a. Chins one of his own players for being "a bit of a poof"

b. Slags off Niall Quinn/ the Sunderland fans

c. Walks out citing crap training methods (they're your Roy) and a shity one horse town.

wonder if that might be Mido...or will he 'kneecap' him?

[choda]

Blimey, I'd be a good defence lawyer. :o