Bellamy to Cardiff

[Gino Ginelli]

Looks like this ship has sailed...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_6314582,00.html

[Mattyboii]

Who Marcospurs
Date 16/08/2010
Site SO

SSN about 10 mins ago spoke to Dave Jones the Cardiff manager and he said categorically that Bellamy was not at Cardiff, going to Cardiff and have made no contact whatsoever with Man Citeh about Bellamy.....
I posted on Friday after a conversation with a pal of mine at Citeh who said that Bellamy's agent had said to Citeh do not bother contacting him with interest, bids or permission to speak to other clubs except Spurs...
It is the only place he wants to go.... he has been asked to stay away from the training ground, they will ultimately give in but it may take until 31st August.......

[TURKISH]

Who Marcospurs
Date 16/08/2010
Site SO

Cheers petal.

[hastingsyid]

fvck me.................

[MarlowSpurs]

fvck me.................

What again???????

[TURKISH]

fvck me.................

:001_rolleyes:

[graggor]

fvck me.................

Man city may just push him in the back till december. who knows.

[Mattyboii]

Cheers petal.

no problemo gorgeous
i seriously would like bellamy, he is a good player.
last year or before that i cant remember but when we were linked I didn't like him, but he played really well last season. Surprised he isn't part of the citeh squad.

[Gino Ginelli]

Bada bing!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_6317514,00.html

[olly27]

They are treating Bellamy, Ireland and Given disrespectfully IMHO. Particularly Bellamy actually, **** I really despise City. Bellamy was their best player last season.

It will be their undoing though, mark my words. This cut throat style they are applying to their own plays will bite them in the ass big time. It will make forming a good team spirit near impossible. Their impatience and child like approach will hinder/stifle their heavy investment coming to complete fruition.

Not to mention players like Ireland who have signed new deals fairly recently wanting to stay on their large existing contracts. If they pay him off they are setting a dangerous precedent for themselves, and if they dont its a waste of an ongoing salary if he's not included in the 25 man squad. Well its not like they cant afford that situation - but its the complete madness of it all.

Its actually laughable. Too many people are blinded by the massive spending and are not paying enough attention to all the problems that this grotesque style of spending actually brings. They want success NOW and they dont seem to care how they get it even if it means treating some of their own playing staff like shit. Thats a dangerous strategy and for me they are already setting bad examples of how they as Club conduct themselves.

What are we one game into the new season and their problems are seriously mounting already.

[Antilokhos]

I would have liked to see Bellamy at Spurs, a player with that sort of spirit could have been very useful to the laid back squad that we seem to have. I'm not so optimistic that Man City's actions will screw it in the short/medium term. Money talks, and as long as they are willing to pay ridiculous sums of money, players will be willing to sign on (just look at Real Madrid there for awhile). I do hope that they aren't determined to cockblock us though, they definitely have some players on the fringe of their squad that I would like to have.

[Gino Ginelli]

Bullet dodged if you ask me. Not only from the problems that follow Bellamy from club to club, but also the ball ache that would have been dealing with Man City's petulant and frankly barking approach to football dealings.

[TURKISH]

I like Bells, he is much better than championship football but at least he will get the love he deserves.

He was Citys best player last year, would have loved him here but it wasn't to be.

[Antilokhos]

Yeah, he seems like a dick, but our squad definitely seems a bit laid back for my tastes. I'd like to add some fire to the squad. I'm guessing Bellamy only agreed to Cardiff after City made it clear they would not let him come to Spurs. I can't imagine he would choose Championship over Champions League. Doesn't bode well for the proposed Richards deal I guess.

[choda]

Weird transfers by City.

Ireland, Dunne and Bellamy among their better players for me and proven in this league.

Who else is a creative central midfielder in their squad other than Ireland? He's got a lovely touch and sees things on the field as much as he does off it (like dead grannies).

Milner is overhyped and although he's a useful match winner in the prem, he's a one dimensional slugger like Lampard and will need proper classy passers beside and around him to accommodate his lack of brains (and they will be? De Jong?).

16m and Ireland for Milner smacks of 40m plus Eto for Zlatan for me. Daylight robbery, delighted with that piece of business, good for spurs.

And they just give away Bellamy. Retards.

Interesting football experiment this city one. They did improve a lot last year from huge spending, but lacked cohesion. Will they be much better this year? I don't think they will, they've brought some real class in, but they've also let go of some real class, proven in this league real class too.

And they will still be very up and down and not cohesive for a long time imo.

[Rojoknapp]

Weird transfers by City.

Ireland, Dunne and Bellamy among their better players for me and proven in this league.

Who else is a creative central midfielder in their squad other than Ireland? He's got a lovely touch and sees things on the field as much as he does off it (like dead grannies).

Milner is overhyped and although he's a useful match winner in the prem, he's a one dimensional slugger like Lampard and will need proper classy passers beside and around him to accommodate his lack of brains (and they will be? De Jong?).

16m and Ireland for Milner smacks of 40m plus Eto for Zlatan for me. Daylight robbery, delighted with that piece of business, good for spurs.

And they just give away Bellamy. Retards.

Interesting football experiment this city one. They did improve a lot last year from huge spending, but lacked cohesion. Will they be much better this year? I don't think they will, they've brought some real class in, but they've also let go of some real class, proven in this league real class too.

And they will still be very up and down and not cohesive for a long time imo.

I can't believe that you think that about Frank Lampard. He is a truly quality player whether you like him or not. I'm not sure if there's another midfielder in the world who times his runs into the box as perfectly and as often as Lampard does. I would bite my own hand off to have him at Spurs.

[TURKISH]

I can't believe that you think that baout Frank Lampard. He is a truly quality player whether you like him or not. I'm not sure if there's another midfielder in the world who times his runs into the box as perfectly and as often as Lampard does. I would bite my own hand off to have him at Spurs.

He looks an awesome player when you stick the more technical clever players around him who do all the link up play. He looks naff for England, but most players do because the national side don't have Modric, Alonso, Fabregas, Essien.

We are a very robust side sadly with no pure technicians.

[Rojoknapp]

He looks an awesome player when you stick the more technical clever players around him who do all the link up play. He looks naff for England, but most players do because the national side don't have Modric, Alonso, Fabregas, Essien.

We are a very robust side sadly with no pure technicians.

I'm not sure I would put Essien in the same category as those three! Essien isn't a wonderfully technical player, he's just a beast. Whichever way you look at it, to call Lampard a "one dimensional slugger" is grossly underestimating him. You don't score as many goals as him from central midfield and from long range without having great tekkers. How many players score from outside the box as often as Lampard? It's not a coincidence, he is absolutely brilliant at it because he practises and practises for hours on end.

[choda]

I can't believe that you think that about Frank Lampard. He is a truly quality player whether you like him or not. I'm not sure if there's another midfielder in the world who times his runs into the box as perfectly and as often as Lampard does. I would bite my own hand off to have him at Spurs.

He's great at certain things, so good at scoring from midfield, or playing a good final ball he'd probably be in my team too, but you have to accommodate him or he's like he is for England.

England have problems playing him because he's so naff at most things in the main job in midfield. As Turk says you need technical players around him to fill in all the gaps in your teamplay he will leave.

And if there are big problems you won't see near the same player, which you don't for England.

[TURKISH]

I'm not sure I would put Essien in the same category as those three! Essien isn't a wonderfully technical player, he's just a beast. Whichever way you look at it, to call Lampard a "one dimensional slugger" is grossly underestimating him. You don't score as many goals as him from central midfield and from long range without having great tekkers. How many players score from outside the box as often as Lampard? It's not a coincidence, he is absolutely brilliant at it because he practises and practises for hours on end.

He can strike a ball very well, world class even. But he needs clever players around him, why isn't he successful for England? He looks useless in midfield, the only thing he can do is time his runs well and score goals. He isn't great at linking play, or bossing a game with his passing and movement.

Why does Lampard look so awful when playing against your Xaxi's? Iniesta's? Alonso's? Modric?

[Rojoknapp]

He can strike a ball very well, world class even. But he needs clever players around him, why isn't he successful for England? He looks useless in midfield, the only thing he can do is time his runs well and score goals. He isn't great at linking play, or bossing a game with his passing and movement.

Why does Lampard look so awful when playing against your Xaxi's? Iniesta's? Alonso's? Modric?

Nobody is successful for England. It's difficult to blame Lampard for being bad in a team which is poor all the way through. And I wouldn't agree that he's looked awful when up against those players you mentioned when he's in a Chelsea shirt.

[TURKISH]

Nobody is successful for England. It's difficult to blame Lampard for being bad in a team which is poor all the way through. And I wouldn't agree that he's looked awful when up against those players you mentioned when he's in a Chelsea shirt.

Can he run a game like them pal? Lampard is a great player, but he aint no Paul Scholes. Barca always boss the games against Chelsea home and away, Lampard can't keep the ball like there players can.

Lampard doesn't drop the shoulder, let the ball roll, one two in a tight dangerous situation.

[Rojoknapp]

Can he run a game like them pal? Lampard is a great player, but he aint no Paul Scholes. Barca always boss the games against Chelsea home and away, Lampard can't keep the ball like there players can.

Lampard doesn't drop the shoulder, let the ball roll, one two in a tight dangerous situation.

Which might all look wonderful, and we all love it when Modric does something like that, but Lampard is brutally effective. Let's be honest - would we rather have Modric or Lampard? Scholes or Lampard? Alright, I'll give you Iniesta and Xavi, but they're two of the best players in the world.

[TURKISH]

Which might all look wonderful, and we all love it when Modric does something like that, but Lampard is brutally effective. Let's be honest - would we rather have Modric or Lampard? Scholes or Lampard? Alright, I'll give you Iniesta and Xavi, but they're two of the best players in the world.

I'm not denying he is effective, he clearly is in a team thats built round him. Paul Scholes in his day was a better footballer than Lampard, but Lampard is a better goal scorer. Lampard doesn't run a game like Modric or Fabregas, he can score you goals but only if he has these players around him.

Why doesn't he score many goals for England? Consistency level isn't there, he gets found out at these levels. Yes he can score 20 goals a season, but he can't boss a game and needs two players behind him to make him look good.

Who would I rather have behind a lone striker? Lampard. But who would I rather have in a 442 or in a deeper midfield role? Modric and Scholes all day long, infact I would rather have a 36 year old Scholes than Lampard.

[Rojoknapp]

I'm not denying he is effective, he clearly is in a team thats built round him. Paul Scholes in his day was a better footballer than Lampard, but Lampard is a better goal scorer. Lampard doesn't run a game like Modric or Fabregas, he can score you goals but only if he has these players around him.

Why doesn't he score many goals for England? Consistency level isn't there, he gets found out at these levels. Yes he can score 20 goals a season, but he can't boss a game and needs two players behind him to make him look good.

Who would I rather have behind a lone striker? Lampard. But who would I rather have in a 442 or in a deeper midfield role? Modric and Scholes all day long, infact I would rather have a 36 year old Scholes than Lampard.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree there because I would take Lampard over most midfielders, or even players in the world if I could choose someone to play for Spurs. He would probably be in my top 10.

[choda]

Well we'll have to agree to disagree there because I would take Lampard over most midfielders, or even players in the world if I could choose someone to play for Spurs. He would probably be in my top 10.

But how can you be that good when you have to have certain conditions to flourish and have to have certain players around you.

Surely any top player can simply play his position and do brilliantly.

Lampard can't play in a two and do the business and even in a three he has to have technical players behind and in front.

Essentially, he's a specialist, a damn useful one if you have the rest of it, but you need your basics first and foremost.

Xavi and Scholes etc. can play in any team if played in their proper position and put the important basics together, Frank can't so surely they are different gravy.

If Frank was that good he'd be a major player for England's chances, but he isn't.

In fact, Xavi for me is not one level above Frank but two levels. He's not just world class he's one of the best players in the world. He doesn't score that many but watch Barca's football and if Frank could make that happen and see how many they score as a team.