Crap Start

[country cock]

The 20 minutes we were awful. Ok the first goal should have been ruled out for a foul, but the fact is we played poorly. Give a team like Bolton a 2 goal start and you will find it hard to break them down. We did ok the last 20 minutes of the half, but never really looked like scoring. Ekotto was our best player, Lennon didn't get the ball enough, praying for a miracle.

[Keanoldinho]

I think Davids was our best player by a long way and the rest of the team looked like they didn't give a shit and needed a good kick up the arse.

Oh and we need a new CB to rotate with Dawson or come in when King is injured, because Davenport and Dawson are both to young to make a good partnership.

[MarlowSpurs]

****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, and double **** IT
How shit were we.

[whistler9027]

I think this may b a blessing in diguise....we did this last year..week in week out..we started slow..strolling about ..then started to go for it after we lost a goal...certainly had no edge today..and we need a left sided player...for balance....started to believe the hype that we are a top 4 side in waiting..we could be ..but it takes more than one top 5 finish to realise that....back to basics...thank god theres a game tuesday..but Sheff Utd won't be easy either..will come out firing ..we need to start wiv high tempo....

[Keanoldinho]

****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, and double **** IT
How shit were we.


I second this, BUT please for the love of God do something about that avatar:eek:

[Welsh Spur]

I'm disappointed, but the fact is their first goal was an utter joke. Robbo should have saved the second, Lennon wasn't involved enough, Jenas was anonymous, Davenport looks inexperienced, cant wait for King to return.

Zokora started slow, came into it gradually, Defoe was determined, Berbatov did good he looks better than all the shit we've had before; but overall a poor team performance. I like Davids' workrate but he just doesn't seem to have any intention of doing anything productive!

Definately overhaul the midfield for Sheff Utd, Hurry with a left winger, I'm serious I would bid £15million for Pedersen.

[nuttyhotspurs]

****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****, and double **** IT
How shit were we.

that pretty much sums up how i feel at the moment aswell. im off out now to drink copious amounts of alcohol and try to forget about it

[suBerb]

we have serious midfield problems and the new signings need time to ajust to premiership

besides, the world cup players are not in form yet

[Welsh Spur]

I thought the three new signings gave a good account of themselves. Especially Berbatov he looked unfazed at the speed and physicality, and also he is very technically gifted. I like him.

[neilmcnab]

we looked pretty short, davs looks out of depth , didnt want the ball, jenas, doesnt seem interested,defoe tried and never got into game , keane showed why he.ll always start if hes fit, davids never played he best but cud imagine without him wed of been steamrollerd, we look short of 2 defenders. and those carlton cole bashers he came on and sealed it for hammers, were as we couldnt buy a goal, today we needed som1 like cc, who cud power past a square defence, and desperate for left sided player, boa morte wud be good for us as o many of our players dont go forward even when the chance comes... spurs for life

[Keanoldinho]

we looked pretty short, davs looks out of depth , didnt want the ball, jenas, doesnt seem interested,defoe tried and never got into game , keane showed why he.ll always start if hes fit, davids never played he best but cud imagine without him wed of been steamrollerd, we look short of 2 defenders. and those carlton cole bashers he came on and sealed it for hammers, were as we couldnt buy a goal, today we needed som1 like cc, who cud power past a square defence, and desperate for left sided player, boa morte wud be good for us as o many of our players dont go forward even when the chance comes... spurs for life



good analysis especially the last 3 words

[Keanoldinho]

aint it always


are you really young or just really thick?

[Spur]

You know what...?

Just to make the day the least bit a success cant we get rid of this ****???

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

[choda]

I ****ing hate Bolton... Baulton. What a shit side, but they are a night of mary to play against. They are organised, work very hard, and I'd say they spend all day working on set pieces.

We were very unlucky to lose, the first goal was a foul and the second was a freak strike from Campo. Not much we could do about them and after that it was a major uphill struggle. They sat back and made it really difficult.

We pissed on them possesion wise, but didn't create much. I think we could have played a lot better but I think the two goals demoralised them. I think it was bad luck and then it was always going to be really hard. They tried but two nil down to Baulton away is not the stuff of fairytales.

I thought Zokora was good and I thought Davids was unreal. Keano was bright when he came on, but I don't like when he is too deep. I think his value is with the quick brain around the box and his intelligent movement. I thought Lennon was okay second half, Berb was okay, Ekotto was okay. The rest were okay or poor.

And this was the first time I saw Defoe this year, and people were telling me how he was shit hot, but all I saw was the same old static rubbish. Pre season is pre season, he had no freedom to shoot today and there was no movement, no intelligence, and I'm not sure these are things you can learn.

The team is crying out for another quality natural wide player, and then we can move Davids in beside Zokora/Hudd. I'm not sure Jenas is going to be top drawer. Lennon is the only natural attacker in the midfield, Jenas doesn't posess the real quality of a top attacking midfielder. Davids can drive the team forward as any great defensive midfielder can do, and I think Zokora posesses that quality aswell, however they aren't natural attackers either. We are crying out for another top attacking midfielder. And for me Keane has got to play up top like he did last season, for me he is a different class to Defoe.

[Spur]

Don't agree about Defoe.

[shoot_ffs]

well that's no surprise is it. the goals we could do nothing about. but we looked very green and too many didn't want the ball. hoped a rocket at half time would do the trick. was very disappointed with lee at right back as he's offered nothing going forward. we look like we had a game plan to play through the middle and off the front men, and then looked stumped when bolton sussed it after 1min. c'mon jol show some tactical nouse. we had no second game plan and our midfield were very poor. ekotto's distribution was rubbish. he didn't look very quick either. Thought diouf was outstanding, he always wanted the ball, wherever he was on the pitch and more importantly found space where they could get him the ball. Defoe hardly had a touch all game although neither did vaz te. very poor start.

[choda]

You know, if we're going to play Davids on the left then why don't we play Murphy in the centre instead of Jenas? The Argies play that system. What's the point in having three naturally defensive or box to box midfielders and only one natural attacker in Lennon. I think right now the midfield doesn't have enough creativity.

[Welsh Spur]

At the moment, I'd go with that. Jenas is pissing me off and I'm starting to see why all his critics are exactly that. Someone said earlier and I agree, he was ****ing clueless. He makes no runs, and is out of the game for long periods. How about trying an assist from a free kick, as he's not exactly a specialist taker is he? Very upset after today, especially as I'd have been happy with a draw, after all Bolton away is tricky, and choda, I agree, Bolton play the most revolting football in the premiership. They are almost as bad to watch as Chelsea.

[Billywhizz]

Thought it was a pretty poor display from all really, the pluses for me was Zokora he can only get better though started slowly, Berbatov showed some nice touches needs to get a bit more physical, Davids done well other than that the rest need a rocket up there arse.

WTF was Jenas doing, needs to up his game or risk being dropped for Murphy
See the Interveiw with MJ on SS premplus he's not very happy but did comment on anymore signings he said " He's happy with the squad of players and doesn't think he will be signing anyone before the transfer window closes and is waiting for the team to gel". Guess that blows the Petrov signing out the window.

C,mon MJ get that left side midfield sorted, go and get Petrov

[fluke]

Jesus! even the lasagna performance against West Ham was better than this.
I guess what's said about preseason meaning nothing is spot on. Really disappointing in most areas. Scariest to me is dead ball situations, of which we had a number were unimaginative - Jenas seems to be continuing with his World Cup performances (yes I know he didn't play). We seemed to only ever threaten through one channel which any defence in the prem will cut out.
It has to get better than this guy's. Please tell me it will.

[xXx Jo xXx]

You know what...?

Just to make the day the least bit a success cant we get rid of this ****???

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.


yeh i wish!

[Indianspur]

IM Very upset today and recieving plenty of stick from my friends. I Think taino is very under-rated and would be first choice instead of jenas as the attacking midfielder. A proper left winger may have made all the difference in the goal scoring front today. The fact we didnt score (even a consolation) is all the more disappointing as it wont be the first time we'll fall behind this season.
37 games to go tho and we'll be back

[RuFuS]

You know what...?

Just to make the day the least bit a success cant we get rid of this ****???

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.


YEP i'm up 4 that :)

[suBerb]

I think right now the midfield doesn't have enough creativity.


fully agree with Choda

We need not only a proper LM/LW but also an attacking CM since it is evident that we lack creativity in the centre midfield...MJ relies on JJ but this may be a very very wrong decision. Hopefully MJ is right.

Compare JJ with Cesc and Rosicky and you wont be very optimistic...Still JJ is a young and talented player who is out of form yet...

[JuicE]

What a Crock of SHIT!:mad:

And we've lost our unbeaten record for the new season already! :( :rolleyes:

[shoot_ffs]

i don't see why everyones diggin at jenas, i thought zokora was much worse. jenas may not be an attacking mid, but arsenal don't have any defensive and we showed we could boss them in the middle last year. there has to be a balance, but we looked overwhelmed both physically and when we had the ball. Our so called biting midfield had little bite and no distribution. the full backs offered nothing and everyone except berby played with no urgency whatsoever. I thought davids had a better game but he was too deep and was again playing centre mid position. I'm most annoyed as bolton played exactly the same way last season and we didn't seem to address any of the problems of outlets and keeping the ball. We ponced about with the ball with our centre backs and bolton waited in their half, with us not even seeming to realise we needed atleast 2 goals. Bizarre. Should atleast give us a rocket and bring us back down to earth.

[Gino Ginelli]

I agree with the concerns over Jenas. He can run forever, but never looks like he wants to, or knows where to run if he did. I'm not sure he made one constructive pass, he simply doesn't know how to pass forwards, only sideways and backwards.

I'd have to agree that if we signed a ball player / set piece taker like Murphy then surely we should be employing him?

Agree that Davids was ace.

[choda]

What's this Ghaly guy like aswell? Is he creative like Murphy or does he like to accelerate forward with one two's like Tainio? I've never seen him play.

[Spur]

Ghaly has a bit of everything. The one thing I can say he definately has is drive and energy. A lot like Teemu regarding that aspect. Better at picking a pass I would say.

Then again I have only seen him a few times...

[choda]

fully agree with Choda

We need not only a proper LM/LW but also an attacking CM since it is evident that we lack creativity in the centre midfield...MJ relies on JJ but this may be a very very wrong decision. Hopefully MJ is right.

Compare JJ with Cesc and Rosicky and you wont be very optimistic...Still JJ is a young and talented player who is out of form yet...

Well I think if we get a top left winger we could play Zokora and Davids/Hudd/Tainio in the middle. If not and we play Davids out left we badly need a playmaker in the middle (the Argies system) and the only guy we have in that mold is Murphy. Maybe Ghaly can do that but I've never seen him play. I'm not sure Tainio would solve the problem but I think he'd certainly be better than Jenas, we'd at least be more direct and look to break forward at pace.

I really don't see where Jenas can fit into our plans in the team. We need to invest in a left winger or a playmaker or play Murphy in the middle or Ziegler on the left or Routledge on the right and move Lennon over to the left.

Whatever we do it has to be some kind of improvement in the balance of ball winners to creativity. I'd like to have two ball winners and two creative attackers in the general sense (maybe like United we could have one ball winner if one of the creative attackers can also be a decent ball winner, like scholesie). Last year at least we had a deep lying playmaker in Carrick but even then we all recognised we needed more creativity. Yesterday we played with three ball winners, it was totally out of balance.

[singapore spur]

i think i must be the only one on here that wasnt very impressed with davids , better than most performances of his last year but still i thought a lot of his passes went astray , got caught by holding on to the ball too much but maybe i am just blinded because i really hate to see players whinging at the ref , especially for spurs ,and he is a major culprit .

[mjbmedia]

i think i must be the only one on here that wasnt very impressed with davids , better than most performances of his last year but still i thought a lot of his passes went astray , got caught by holding on to the ball too much but maybe i am just blinded because i really hate to see players whinging at the ref , especially for spurs ,and he is a major culprit .
no mate you werent the only one. sure he may have harrassed a bit, but he fouled more than tackled and gave the ball away for fun, still hes Dutch so hes the bosses favourite :rolleyes:

we didnt pass and move, we passed and stood still , so the forwards couldnt get space cos noone was running to create it for them, so Dawson and co lumps it forwards with no backspin = goal kick yawn. goodnight im gonna watch how do you solve a problem like maria :)

wasnt it obvious we had to win midfield so we should have had 3 or 4 to their 3 instead of 2 v 3 then break once we had the ball , why did it take 45 minutes to get that right, it took 45 seconds to see it from my sofa, maybe MJ should go into the stands to see the game properly ?

[choda]

no mate you werent the only one. sure he may have harrassed a bit, but he fouled more than tackled and gave the ball away for fun, still hes Dutch so hes the bosses favourite :rolleyes:

we didnt pass and move, we passed and stood still , so the forwards couldnt get space cos noone was running to create it for them, so Dawson and co lumps it forwards with no backspin = goal kick yawn. goodnight im gonna watch how do you solve a problem like maria :)

wasnt it obvious we had to win midfield so we should have had 3 or 4 to their 3 instead of 2 v 3 then break once we had the ball , why did it take 45 minutes to get that right, it took 45 seconds to see it from my sofa, maybe MJ should go into the stands to see the game properly ?

Win midfield... we won midfield, we had all the possesion, we just did jack shit with it. And we had 3 v 3, Davids was coming inside to make three... and Jenas was doing that later when Lennon moved to the left. We just had a big shortage of creativity and players who'd continually get forward and create something. In fact we even started with a diamond but the little mee meep was continually running into traffic.

I agree that we had little movement in the midfield, I think it is very unfair to blame Davids for that, he was passing to training cones. I thought he did really well and looked like the only guy trying to get the game by the scruff of the neck.

We also had very little movement up front. The only movement was coming from Berbatov the target man who was doing okay. That is going to be a bonus to us this year, he's far more than just a big lad. Defoe was like Jenas, lost.

[JJ]

Again, i'm not too bothered. Bolton are one of those teams that do that all the time. We can't let it knock us back too much as they didn't outplay us by any stretch of the imagination.

Yeah, the result was shit, but we didn't deserve to lose at all, and that's the small silver lining for me. It was a freak match where 2 goals were scored that should never have happened.

[choda]

Again, i'm not too bothered. Bolton are one of those teams that do that all the time. We can't let it knock us back too much as they didn't outplay us by any stretch of the imagination.

Yeah, the result was shit, but we didn't deserve to lose at all, and that's the small silver lining for me. It was a freak match where 2 goals were scored that should never have happened.

You're dead right. But there were still some glaring worries that need to be addressed. Like if you'e saying we should move on to tomorrow with the same team I would not agree with that. We need more creativity in midfield and if Keano's fit my view is that he's got to start ahead of Defoe.

[country cock]

You're dead right. But there were still some glaring worries that need to be addressed. Like if you'e saying we should move on to tomorrow with the same team I would not agree with that. We need more creativity in midfield and if Keano's fit my view is that he's got to start ahead of Defoe.
I agree with Keane starting if fit. Does Anyone else think Yol should consider playing Huddlestone at centre back. He's big, strong, good in the air, and with the ball at his feet. Might be an option,if not now in the future untill Ledley's back.

[JJ]

You're dead right. But there were still some glaring worries that need to be addressed. Like if you'e saying we should move on to tomorrow with the same team I would not agree with that. We need more creativity in midfield and if Keano's fit my view is that he's got to start ahead of Defoe.

Oh i agree with you. We can't keep it the same as it was. Some players didn't seem to pull their weight.

Some of you are saying Davids played well, i don't think he did. I think Zokora looked much more effective. Granted Davids may have done more hassling, and winning the ball but he offered nothing going forward, whereas Zokora did. He made a few bursting runs and was putting alot of passes forward.

The Defoe/Keane one is tough. I personally feel that Defoe would be more effective against Sheff Utd defenders than Keane, but i think Keane might work better with Berbatov...at least for now.

[jrio]

I agree with Keane starting if fit. Does Anyone else think Yol should consider playing Huddlestone at centre back. He's big, strong, good in the air, and with the ball at his feet. Might be an option,if not now in the future untill Ledley's back.

Yes, he was playing regularly there for Derby at the age of 16 in the Championship and would cope better with strong, bustling strikers like Davies and Hulse than Gardner and Davenport. Jol may be reluctant to switch him between CB and midfield. Jenas is a major worry as he continues to phone in his performances yet is one of those seemingly undroppable. However I wouldn't be surprised if he fails to make the next England squad and is replaced by Scott Parker.

[mjbmedia]

Win midfield... we won midfield, we had all the possesion, we just did jack shit with it. And we had 3 v 3, Davids was coming inside to make three... and Jenas was doing that later when Lennon moved to the left.
yes unfortunately by the time that happened wed already been overrun and were 2-0 down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We just had a big shortage of creativity and players who'd continually get forward and create something. I agree that we had little movement in the midfield,
so same as last season then

I think it is very unfair to blame Davids for that, he was passing to training cones.
yeh and he still gave it away to Bolton

I thought he did really well and looked like the only guy trying to get the game by the scruff of the neck.
dont think he done well but did use a lot of energy tho not much good came of it, Zokora was more effective with the ball, Davids off it

We also had very little movement up front. The only movement was coming from Berbatov the target man who was doing okay. That is going to be a bonus to us this year, he's far more than just a big lad. Defoe was like Jenas, lost.
well wont expect anything other than the same old tired anti defoe stuff from you anyways ;) funny but i swear i saw both of them running making space for each other and runs for the midfield /backs also defoe even tackled someone and came away with the ball and set up a half chance, all in one go.....and had one of our few chances on target, **** me :p

[choda]

It's like you're on a personal mission to 'win' against me. Calm the **** down. Can you not just talk to people?

We all have our own opinions.

You're probably fifty years older than me... but you need to grow up.

I was just stating that we had 3 v 3, maybe even 4 v 3 at the start. If we started badly it wasn't because of lack of numbers in central midfield.

We disagree on Davids and Defoe. And we're never going to agree on Defoe if you thought he was good on Saturday... I thought he was woeful. I don't know what great movement you were looking at, in my opinion I saw absolutely none.

And I offered you an olive branch twice in our previous arguement but you weren't big enough to meet me half way and sort out our differences.

[mjbmedia]

sorry but all i done was reply to the points you raised!!!!
am i not allowed my own opinion then , still least i dont get personal , you seem to have a rather large ego there sunshine

[TomMcLaren]

Jenas is a major worry as he continues to phone in his performances yet is one of those seemingly undroppable. However I wouldn't be surprised if he fails to make the next England squad and is replaced by Scott Parker.

I am rapidly losing patience with Jenas, he's turned out to be worth less than his reported £7mm. Problem is, with the England call-ups, we're going to be paying performance related fees to the Geordies as well!! :(

[Gregzy]

I am rapidly losing patience with Jenas, he's turned out to be worth less than his reported £7mm. Problem is, with the England call-ups, we're going to be paying performance related fees to the Geordies as well!! :(

Yep, and if there's one thing that irks me (although in fact there are quite a few) it's inflating the barcodes coffers. Although I suppose we can take a degree of solace in the fact that the more money we give to them the more they will pay for some over-rated and underperforming nonentity.

Every cap for Jenas brings us closer to another comedy signing in the north east...

[choda]

Maybe I do have a rather large ego but it is hard for me to recognise it if you don't at least recognise that you may have posted some things that were very open to the way I took them.

I've repeatedly stated that I might be somewhat at fault in our disputes but you always just shove it back in my face. And now I think you are doing anything you can to say that I am a smuck. Forgive me if I thought you were trying to dismantle everything I said in that post. Given our recent history that looked personal to me, I don't think you'd have done that to someone else.

Just because I'm 25 and opinionated you think you can lord it over me just because you are 75 and opinionated. Well sorry but I'm not having that. I treat people with respect and I expect the same from them. I don't have any problems with anyone else.

I think you're a bit like John Terry five years ago when he was pissed coming out of the toilets. Spoiling for a fight.

[Spur]

I am rapidly losing patience with Jenas, he's turned out to be worth less than his reported £7mm. Problem is, with the England call-ups, we're going to be paying performance related fees to the Geordies as well!! :(

I always thought the deal was 2mil up front and then 1mil a season for the next 5 years...?

[JuicE]

No Disrespect Guys! BUT, Can you please keep your ego bashing, handbag slinging personal rants to maybe a PM?

Or just kiss and make up! :D

Cheers!

[singapore spur]

the back 5 pick themselves i guess at the moment despite some wobbles from davenport on saturday
midfield iwould go for lennon zakora davids (though im not a massive fan )and tanio

with davids sitting just in front of the back 4 , and zakora who seems to have more mobility and speed than davids with the more aggresive forward position ,
start with keane and berbatov up front , because i can see sheffield getting 11 men behind the ball and i feel keane has a better brain at picking the lock to open them up .

just realised posted this in wrong thread , its been a long day and l liquid unch already sorry

[mjbmedia]

No Disrespect Guys! BUT, Can you please keep your ego bashing, handbag slinging personal rants to maybe a PM?

Or just kiss and make up! :D

Cheers!
yeh sorry mate, not me slinging the insults tho , lets stick to the thread please

[Houdini logic]

Maybe I do have a rather large ego but it is hard for me to recognise it if you don't at least recognise that you may have posted some things that were very open to the way I took them.

I've repeatedly stated that I might be somewhat at fault in our disputes but you always just shove it back in my face. And now I think you are doing anything you can to say that I am a smuck. Forgive me if I thought you were trying to dismantle everything I said in that post. Given our recent history that looked personal to me, I don't think you'd have done that to someone else.

Just because I'm 25 and opinionated you think you can lord it over me just because you are 75 and opinionated. Well sorry but I'm not having that. I treat people with respect and I expect the same from them. I don't have any problems with anyone else.

I think you're a bit like John Terry five years ago when he was pissed coming out of the toilets. Spoiling for a fight.

Were you in tears when posting this? ;)

[Gino Ginelli]

I'd like to see: Huddlestone at CB instead of Davenport; Routledge at LW, as he played there several times for Palace, and could even swap sides with Lennon for a bit of cheeky tic-tacs; Murphy / Gahly at CM instead of Jenas.

Also ( and I'll get roasted for this ) although he looks a more talented player, Mido seemed to put himself about a lot more than Berbatov and play more physically which unsettled defences. However I'm sure Berby will acclimatise hinself to English footy shortly.

Still... would like to see Mido back if it's on :)

[JJ]

Now now gents...

We're all just in shock from losing to a team as poor as Bolton. ;)

[TomMcLaren]

If it's £1mm a year for Jenas, I suggest we get rid asap.

[Houdini logic]

I'd like to see: Huddlestone at CB instead of Davenport; Routledge at LW, as he played there several times for Palace, and could even swap sides with Lennon for a bit of cheeky tic-tacs; Murphy / Gahly at CM instead of Jenas.



Yes. Me like.

[Houdini logic]

If it's £1mm a year for Jenas, I suggest we get rid asap.

Maybe we can sell him to ManUre for £16 million or so?
Or offer him to Chelski for £600 million?

[TomMcLaren]

Maybe we can sell him to ManUre for £16 million or so?
Or offer him to Chelski for £600 million?

Done! Get him out there!

[jrio]

I'd like to see: Huddlestone at CB instead of Davenport; Routledge at LW, as he played there several times for Palace, and could even swap sides with Lennon for a bit of cheeky tic-tacs; Murphy / Gahly at CM instead of Jenas.
:)

I notice Routledge and Ghally aren't even in the squad for tonight. I'm not sure where Routledge stands as you would think if Lennon was injured Routledge would be the replacement, but I've got a feeling Jol would switch JJ there.

[RuFuS]

we're never going to agree on Defoe if you thought he was good on Saturday... I thought he was woeful. I don't know what great movement you were looking at, in my opinion I saw absolutely none.

I'm trying to workout how he hurt his foot and is having a late fitness test for Sheff U. He only had 1 shot on goal against bolton.

[choda]

Were you in tears when posting this? ;)

Lol, no mate, but it may have looked that way, and I may have been a bit tired and emotional. Had had a few beers.

Look, I'm not going to get into any more arguements with media. There's no point. I've repeatedly tried to sort it, and it was just annoying me a tad when I'd log on, but there's just no talking to some people.

Even if he continues with his unmeasured, disrespectful and imbalanced debating style I won't be bothered to react. And I don't mean opinions, I mean the manner in which he puts them across.

[MarlowSpurs]

I second this, BUT please for the love of God do something about that avatar:eek:
Just for you it is done.

[TomMcLaren]

I would just like to apologise to JJ. He played much better today. Still need improvement though - he's is guilty of ball watching too often, and his vision is lacking at times. However, that was a great goal he scored, and allround his play was much better so fair play.

[Houdini logic]

I would just like to apologise to JJ. He played much better today. Still need improvement though - he's is guilty of ball watching too often, and his vision is lacking at times. However, that was a great goal he scored, and allround his play was much better so fair play.

You do realise Tom, that you will physically have to kiss his arse to apologize properly?

[Spur]

Eerrrrrrrrrrr. That's an Arsenal thing. And they do it even when someone isn't apoligising.

[country cock]

One good result then it's as you were, it's not getting any better. The good news though is, it's only Utd away next.

[BgSpur]

Crap start , so what? What about Arsenal start? Or Chelsea? Only Man Yoo had good , even perfect start , i have to say all teams are well prepared , we just though Everton will play poorly , but no! They weren't favourites and they took their own!